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>Poland invades and seizes land that was originally Belarusian during a time of civil war

<"muh amazing patriotic polish forces saving Europe once again from the EVIL EASTERN MONGREL HORDES, lol get btfo Russian commies hahahahaha Poland underdogs wins again!!!!!"

>USSR retakes those same lands 20 years later with forces that include Belarusians

>"WTF, those evil fucking GENOCIDAL Russians are taking RIGHTFUL polish clay and working with the Nazi's, how could they do this, those are OUR lands, those fucking AGGRESSORS, we didn't do NUFFIN, literally worse than the Nazi's, Poland didn't even have camps, muh Katyn, MUH KATYN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Don't even have a "holodomor" to milk against the USSR, and yet once again Polish "nationalists" prove themselves more obnoxious than Ukrainian ones online. And worst yet, you have channels like this that get Polish view-bucks from it.

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Spooked and cringe-pilled.



Unironically yes. It's an nationality that is deeply reactionary.


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Reminder that the officers at Katyn deserved it regardless of who eliminated them.

>Millions of Poles were killed in German death camps throughout the war, and with considerably less sustained outcry from the London government.

>Indeed, only that very month the Germans were annihilating some 50000 Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto rebellion, and far less was heard from London on this matter.

>Katyn was an infinitely more sensitive issue because the men killed there, as Polish underground leader Tadeusz Bor-Komorowski described them, 'had been the elite of the Polish nation . . .,' that is to say, the friends and family of the exiles in London.

>Whoever destroyed the officers at Katyn had taken a step towards implementing a social revolution in Poland

>, and on the basis of class solidarity, the London Poles felt one officer was worth many Jews or peasants.

- Gabriel Kolko, The Politics of War: The World and United States Foreign Policy, 1943–1945. (1968) p. 105.


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Poland has repeatedly been a double-agent between Germany and Russia throughout history. Switching sides constantly.

They're full of neo-nazis today too, and the communist movement there is physically suppressed, especially when they try to stop the Polish Government from destroying the monuments to Soviet liberators. Modern Russia is also being an ass, pretending to put up a tough front but also conceding the bullshit about Katyn that the Nazis spun and not actually doing anything about the desecration of Soviet War Memorials and graves.

- https://thesanghakommune.org/2018/08/18/liam-neeson-supports-polish-neo-nazism-and-us-anti-intellectualism/

- https://www.newsweek.com/poland-plans-removal-500-soviet-monuments-442661

This Polish shit-storm in terms of socialism has been around since the beginning, even Rosa Luxembourg spoke about it

- https://www.marxists.org/archive/luxemburg/1896/07/polish-question.htm

Lastly I provide this

The Case of the 16 Poles and the Plot for War on the USSR


To paraphrase Churchill, Poland often has people who are brave and honorable and are usually led by scoundrels. (I would cite the exact quote but it's somewhere Yuri Muhin's book on the Katyn massacre which is quite large.


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Yes. Poland, Ukraine and the Baltics are ruled by fascists and should never have been given nationality.


Here is a higher rez version,

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ITT: ask questions you think don't deserve their own thread, or are simple to the point they don't fit the character limit for thread creation.

This thread can be used by both leftists and non-leftists.

Contributions of individuals in reply to your questions do not represent the posters of this board as a whole.

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Standing armies aren't nearly all the same, even with similar equipment. Armies without proper command, armies untrained, and armies not taught in proper self-management will perform terribly, as you may have heard of Arab armies.



Obviously, but it's pretty clear that any anarchist force that is going to make itself serious is going to need to maintain a constant serious military force.

That doesn't mean we need to immediately adopt the form of the capitalist army system, but it does mean we're going to need to train up and properly take command of ourselves.


What's so important about equality, materialistically? Why can't capitalists just exploit proles more and more while only paying the police properly to keep putting them down, so as to incentivize their role against the workers? Even, possibly investing in more weapons/tactics/etc. to all the better suppress proles?



Equality is a bourgeois meme. There is no way for people to be equal. But property owners can afford to be "equal". They need neither their skill, their body, nor their knowledge, nor any other aspect of themselves. Every bourgeois is as replacable and faceless as the next as far as capitalism is concerned. The only thing the capitalist needs is their ownership, all else beyond that is inconsequential.

The proletariat cannot be equal, because they simply are not equal, their bodies, their lives, their minds are not equal, they need to sell what is special about them to make their daily income. They arguably should not be equal or we would be reduced to the same sad position as the bourgeois, with nothing useful or interesting about ourselves.


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What the fuck is going on with this board quality? Is this because of the Zizek and Peterson debate?

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10 Brutal Realities of Life in Mao’s China



Didn't watch the video but I hope the comment I left about how bad warlord and Qing China was will break through to at least someone.

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Why are these sympathetic capitalists promoted as the saviors of socialism. Imagine believing Backstabbin' Bernie is a socialist.



If the bourgeoisie can convince people that retarded liberals are socialists, then people will start to think that actual socialists are retarded liberals.



Imagine talking about “real socialists” while spreading far-right quackery.

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Where do you read news? How do you deal with most mainstream news being propaganda with wanting reliable info?

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>Where do you read news?

A cursory read to based NewsAnon 3.0 threads, but lately I'm not even clicking on any link. Plus, I check a few twitter profiles. And my guilty pleasure: a look once in a while at the Roo's YT channel.

To be honest though, I'm not very much into "news" lately. I mean, I'd rather watch documentaries, read books or longer articles to get a deeper understanding of less but more important topics than exert myself following a ton of stuff that's basically smoke and mirrors and no one will remember one week from now.

My only tv source is France 24 in French. I mean, it's the only tv channel I watch on an actual telly - mainly because it's the only foreign one on terrestrial tv here in Wopistan. And it's pretty rubbish: basically French govt propaganda (Muh-cron) but many of the newsreaders are quite qt.

On the internet, I sometimes watch Al Jazeera, CGTN and RT - English versions. I used to watch them on the actual telly when I lived in Bongistan. Ah, and sometimes I catch BBC News at 10 or ITV if I remember and that dodgy website works…

>How do you deal with most mainstream news being propaganda with wanting reliable info?

Well, as I said, I just skip most of the MSM rubbish and look somewhere else.



Most based trots around, even if their take on every existing union being scabs could be somewhat thermonuclear. And defending Paedo-Polanski was too much even if all the MeToo circus deserves to be criticised.


Usually ignore the "news" - just filling up your brain with trash (regardless of which site you get it from). You'd need to curate 95% of it for any of it to be useful. Would rather read actual big articles analyzing some issues in depth.


Mostly i get my news from jungewelt.de and unsere-zeit.de. I also read from time to time china daily.



What do you think about Neues Deutschland?


RT and Drudge Report

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Was gonna make a USSR general, but it's better to expand a little.

Try and go beyond sharing aesthetic pics and post more informative stuff.

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>A plastic church for plastic christians.


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>A plastic church for plastic christians

The real tragedy is that there were christian communists in the USSR


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Nicolae Ceaușescu with Pol Pot



now THIS is left unity

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OC Thread 3.0

I suppose we should establish a new thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content.

Feel free to post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you would like to share.

Or, collaborate on improving content within this thread.

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Hahaha that's a nice meme. Might if I save this?



is the guy in the middle Tito?






we accept applications to our shitposting collective

send an email if you wish to submit a video



looks nice, but please remove the Laughing "Leftists" of that fat fuck RedAmerimutt who got cucked by his pedoGF Akhnaton with a loli.


The Venezuelan, Brazilian and Chilean politicians featured on it are not leftists by any stretch of imagination.

Needless say he's STILL a Berniecuck.

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Return of the thread about "Settlers: The mythology of white proletariat".

That book is anti-marxist bullshit. PROVE ME WRONG.

If you want read it: http://readsettlers.org/

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Has settlers become the radlib bible?


Nick griffin is more class conscious than most radlibs



Yes, it has. At least for radlibs larping as maoists



And especially Nazis larping as radlibs


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Please read what Malcolm X had to say on that.



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Since there's a lot of newfags here I decided it was time for another Marxism-Leninism discussion thread. Anarchists and leftcoms welcome but please try not to fling shit

Starting with some links for discussion

>poll from 2019 shows Stalin viewed positively by 50 percent of Russians today


>60% of Russians want communism back


>Gallup: Former Soviet Countries See More Harm From Breakup


>76 percent of Soviet citizens voted for preservation of the USSR in 1991


>Growing Up Under Communism was the Happiest Time in My Life


>More Fulfilling Relationships and Better Sex Under Socialism


10s of Thousands of Russians Protesting Yeltins Government Adorned in Red Flags and HammPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>please accept my cold war fanfiction that directly contradicts the objective historical record as true because the successes of socialist states hurt my little libertarian Marxist fee fees


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lenin was ahead of his time



At least he cared about the Soviet Union. He was a MASSIVE fuckup, but he didn't actively conspire with the US like Yeltsin did.




Also the first.

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How to refute this?

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But that's less than the proprted number we killed!?

Even then the earth is communist so that is also going under the tally.


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There are a million separate sources, in no small part because debunking bullshit takes a lot more time and effort than creating bullshit.

Anyway, I'll take the opportunity to shill this magnificent site which everyone in this board should have as their initial page.


The wiki section is dedicated to debunking common lies and propaganda. Also, this is the only resource online that I know of which has the full text of amazing amazing documents such as the Sovnarkom decrees.

>mfw decree on land



No one cares about racism



<We should tolerate irrational reactionary beliefs that help justify the existing status quo because equally reactionary liberals have ruined the term.

>Responding to a minute detail of a post made over 24 hours ago, that wasn't even central to the post

>interpreting calling Churchill racist as the same thing as "white people bad" existing liberalism


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But I have the video proof!

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What are some films indepedant or otherwise, from anywhere in the world, fiction and non-fiction, that heavily relate to or are entirely about leftist thought, marxism, communism, left activism?

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all your pics got purged


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The most obvious answer would be The Human Condition trilogy by Masaki Kobayashi.

>The Human Condition is a Japanese epic film trilogy made between 1959 and 1961. The trilogy follows the life of Kaji, a Japanese pacifist and socialist, as he tries to survive in the fascist and oppressive world of WWII-era Japan. No Greater Love (1959) opens with Kaji marrying his sweetheart Michiko despite his misgivings about the future.


My mistake.


Dr. Strangelove


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Does anyone knows did Soviet military hardware fared against nato hardware in the field?

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The Pak 40 was ubiquitous everywhere. It was mounted on stugs, Pz4s, hetzers, marders, etc. If anything, the 50mm guns were much rarer by 1943.

>And that's still less than the equivalent armor of the T-34 because the M4's sloping was far less.

The sherman's sloping was 42 degrees while the T-34's was 45 degrees.

>Sources on that?




>Pak 40

oh fuck I fucked up my designations, I mixed up the Pak-40 and Pak-36.

However the Pak-40 didn't arrive in large numbers until later into the war, the t-34, meanwhile even in its original form, was immune to 50mm shells from every angle until ate 1941 when thy could be penetrated from behind and the side from VERY close range and with newer anti-armor rounds. The Pak-40 became more common in 1942, but it still lacked the power to take down a KV-1, not to mention that the the T-34's resistance to its shells was practically equal to the T-34s gun range, meaning that to penetrate the T-34 they had to be within range of the T-34's gun.

The T-34's 45mm frontal armor was angled at 60 degrees creating an equivalent of roughly 90 degrees or so of armor thickness

I'll cite you 2 German reports for context on that not being enough:

report from May 1942

"Characteristics of the T34.

The T-34 is faster, more maneuverable, has better cross-country mobility than our Pz.Kpfw.lll and IV. Its armor is stronger. The penetrating ability of its 7.62 cm cannon is superior to our 5 cm KwK. and the 7.5 cm KwK40. The favorable form of sloping all of the armor plates aids in causing the shells to skid off.

Combating the T-34 with the 5 cm KwK tank gun is possible only at short ranges from the flank or rear, where it is important to achieve a hit as perpendicular to the surface as possible. Hits on the turret ring, even with high-explosive shells or machine gun bullets, usually result in jamming the turret. In addition, armor-piercing shells fired at close range that hit the gun mantle result in penetrations and breaking open the weld seams. The T-34 can be penetrated at ranges up to 1000 metres with the 7.5 cm PaK 40 as well as the 7.5 cm Hohlgranate (hollow-charge shells)."

from October 1941:

"For the first time during the campaign in the East, in these battles the absolute superiority of the Russian 26 tons and 52 ton tanksPost too long. Click here to view the full text.




As in Chelyabinsk or Soviet Armor Blogspot?


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soviet submarines were fucking awesome, the Oscar class submarine and it SN-22 sunburn cruise-missile literally makes the US aircraft carrier fleet obsolete.


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Anyone have information on KGB tools?

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I've been trying to find for more than a year a version of the "Nine Lives of Makhno" with english subtitles. For me, as a brazilian, it's kinda difficult to understand a slavic language. I will let the link of the playlist of youtube that I found that has the version in russian/ukranian.

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmYbOJx5T7c&list=PLv1XdRuTnG8sRploNERevgjmdl8D_DWV4


I remember seeing this on YouTube a while ago and being unable to find any English version. Pls help, Ukrainian comrades.



Well it's in russian for starters.


I gave it a honest try, and it seems there's no translation. Sorry.

This link may be of interest tho, in case you haven't seen it yet. Links to download the movie from IPFS and something called Dtube, something which is supposed to be the only known video footage of Makhno himself, and some translation discussion.


also lol what a makhnolet



It was filmed in 2007. Implying anyone would enjoy poor quality reactionary narrative.

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What does /leftypol/ think of Pope Francis?

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no, it's just nazi schizoposting


organized abrahamic religions should be nuked



What is this, 2003?


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Also because of the chastity the average Catholic Priest is 70 years old. The Church is literally dying of old age.


Argentina has a large Italian descendent community. Implying someone isn’t “a real Argintine” for being of Italian descent is stupid.


>American Protestantism

Hey, Congregationalists are pretty okay.


A virtue-signalling faget. If he wanted to fix that shit, he would write off those gun-fetishizing, prosperity-theology-worshipping, poor-people-hating, racist, sexist Good Men who dare call themselves Christian as the heretics they are.

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>The Pinkertons rose to notoriety as a vicious army of mercenary strikebreakers who beat and murdered working people who stood up to robber barons like Andrew Carnegie; now they are a division of Securitas, a global private security giant at the forefront of profiting from human misery.

>The Pinkertons have a detailed plan for climate change: as climate chaos displaces people, wipes out their food, infects them with diseases and subjects them to extreme weather, the Pinkertons plan to sell their services to the ultra-rich as personal bodyguards and as mercenaries to guard their homes and supplies of luxury goods, which they will eat and chortle over while the rest of us drown, starve and burn.

>They're already at it, providing high-priced services to executives and big companies during "crises" like Hurricane Maria, during which Donald Trump left millions of Americans to live or die without aid from their government.


What do we do about this lads? It seems the old guards of reaction are evermore invigorated as the rich see and fear more people getting tired of their shit and killing them when things finally hit the fan.

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If only Solid Snake were real…


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Hard cells old tyme. You can't sell trust anywhere, not even the black market. Kid, you have to believe in something!



Ben Shapiro solved the climate change problem a long time ago. If your house risks being taken by the sea you should just sell it. No problem.


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cold hardy peach varieties exist and coastal Alaska doesn't freeze solid



Infiltrate alphabet soup.

Infiltrate right wing groups.

Use their same tactics against them.

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