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>BoP 1953 is a Geopolitical Simulation game which starts in the year 1953, the players play nation states and choose their objectives and methodology to achieve those objectives. Your actions will have an effect both on the external world but also on your own people, you need to worry about both the enemy without and the potential enemy within in order to survive. You will have to contend with other Player nations, but also with NPC nations as simulated by the GM team.


(also most of the players are leftists)

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Actually the two guys in charge of the game in OP have said nuclear war will not necessarily end the game, they would possibly be willing to simulate a post-attack world if it came to that



>thinking you can win with nukes

what are you, Mao Zedong???



HOI4 cold war is better and more fun.



They're completely different though.



Yeah but HOI4 is fun.

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Hey, I'm new to this whole "leftism" thing, but won't have time to read a lot of books for the forseeable future. What are the quintessential lefty channels on YT?

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But the conspiracy element is actually another gripe i have with Dore. There are plenty of times where it's alright to think that there's something fishy going on, with the Syrian chemical attack for example, but Dore is WAY too quick to jump to conspiracy theories where they aren't necessary.

It isn't even a Parenti "conspiracies happen" kind of take, its a "everything is a conspiracy" take.

This is actually a result of a lack of theory Imo, if you understand how capital works and the aims of the bourgeois you don't need to jump to a conspiratorial outlook.



>muh conspiracy theory

Reminder that the use of "conspiracy theory" to discredit people is a confirmed CIA psyop designed to defang public dissent. Please point out what unreasonable conclusions Dore has jumped to.



I have no clue what it's about, but I'm liking the first one based on the video titles alone.



lmao what is this garbage

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Was gonna make a USSR general, but it's better to expand a little.

Try and go beyond sharing aesthetic pics and post more informative stuff.

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This is very interesting. Less military posting, more daily life posting, please.



> Less military posting

there wasn't any major military posting in the first place tho.


BadMouseProductions made a video on the DDR:



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have some pdfs, comrades. most of them are USSR focused though, unfortunately. always on the lookout for more books on other warsaw pact countries though.



I'm officially unilaterally declaring Badmouse is good now.

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There was a thread here a while ago that set up this website, but I think I need to shill it a bit more to get it off the ground. I'm not the original OP, but I am a moderator on the site.

It's a pretty basic forum that doesn't require email registration and allows anonymous posting. The layout is quite old-fashioned (reminds me of early 2000's forums), but it all works fine.

Anyway, here is the link: leftist.site

WARNING: It will ask you for email when you make an account. This is due to the software used and is not necessary to make an account. Leave that section blank.

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If you check the first thread I made it clear that leftist.site doesn't have to be final and I asked for suggestions for the name and domain. I cannot stress enough that nothing is set in stone, I want this to be a collective effort. If you have a better suggestion, please share.

>The fucking 2019 and people still don't understand.

I also had the same thought, of 'moving' away from the 'leftist', 'socialist' label because it became a bad word. But then I thought, you know what, our world-view is informed by leftist, anti-capitalist theory. No need to hide. No need to 'lure' people in and then spring on them 'haha! you've been hanging out with communists all this time!'

But maybe I misunderstood your point. I'd like to hear more from you, care to expand?



>It wasn't there in the beginning, but someone suggested it should be added for registrations to avoid spam bots.

Mate, recaptcha exploits people, so as a leftist forum we shouldn't have it. I mean it's so dehumanizing to click fucking cars over and over, and then it tells you you got it wrong anyway. Besides, there are other captchas out there. How about what 8chan uses?



>I ain't going to something that has "left" in his name.

He said on leftypol



>Mate, recaptcha exploits people, so as a leftist forum we shouldn't have it.

You only have to solve captcha once, when you register.


Ha. Didn't even catch that.



>You only have to solve captcha once, when you register.

Once is too much. So it's going to stay then?

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One-day national strike paralyzes Belgium

Large parts of Belgium were brought to a standstill yesterday, as tens of thousands of workers joined a national 24-hour strike to demand wage increases, and oppose government attacks on pensions and other social entitlements, and growing social inequality.


US sabotage may be behind Iran's embarrassing rocket launch failure

The US has been secretly sabotaging Iranian missiles and rockets for years, the New York Times reported Wednesday, citing half a dozen current and former officials. Since the program began a little over a decade ago, 67 percent of Iran's orbital launches have failed. The global failure rate for similar launches is only 5 percent.


Poland buying $414mn of US rocket artillery to ‘guarantee its security’

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s calls to “strengthen resistance” against Russia has resonated with Poland’s leadership, as the country signed a $414-million deal to purchase an American weapons system.A product of Lockheed Martin and BAE Systems, the M142 HIMARS is capable of launching both rocket artillery and tactical ballistic missiles with an estimated operational range of 480km.


Brexit: Theresa May suffers fresh Commons defeat

Prime Minister Theresa May has suffered another Commons defeat after MPs voted down her approach to Brexit talks.MPs voted by 303 to 258 - a majority of 45 - against a motion endorsingPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>Capitalism Killed Intimacy and Replaced It With PornHub

Well, capitalism had to do SOMETHING right, some times.



>Bhaskar Sunkara




The eternal rose.



this isn't a trot position, this is a red-union position. and for the record, wsws always fucking says this about every goddamn union.



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Artificial intelligence shifts the global balance. While the West is conducting ethics debates, one global power in the far east is expanding its autocratic system with big data. How will the technology affect the ground structure of our democratic systems? And which system will prevail at the end?

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I don't even know what point you're trying to make here. Did you watch the video?


Are you Valorian?



>America will fall behind China because America is to timid about AI.

BS, America’s falling behind China because China has four times the amount of people. Also America isn’t holding back big data technology, but embracing it at full speed. Just look at Amazon or the Drone programs.



considering the video has 5 views and was posted only a day ago, yes this person can be safely assumed to be the author.


your video sucks. you pit american """liberal democracies""" against the authoritarian bad boys (really just amerikkka's enemies), without any analysis of how amerikkka is a literal shithole already collapsing on its own weight.

if you want to come to /leftypol/ why dont you stop by the goddamn stickies and actually read some leftist literature?


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"If there is one person to whom monuments will be built a hundred years from now, Peter Sloterdijk once remarked, it is Lee Kuan Yew, the Singaporean leader who thought up and put into practice a ‘capitalism with Asian values’. The virus of authoritarian capitalism is slowly but surely spreading around the globe. Deng Xiaoping praised Singapore as the model that all of China should follow." - Slavoj Žižek

Yes I imagine a future where an archipelago of Singapore style authoritarian Confucian Mirror's Edge esque police states operating as neocameralist corporate republics ala Nick land and Meniscus Moldbug. Rule in a world abreast by catastrophic climate change, famine, war and extreme wealth and biological poverty(The elect will be trans-human and have artificial intelligence at there disposal).

Singapore under the leadership of Lee Kuan Yew has pioneered a higher synthesis of eastern and wester civilization a country that has imminence economic but no political freedom. combining Anglo Empiricism, pragmatism, laissez faire, market liberalism and the broader western enlightenment tradition of reason with the Easter civilization Confucian hierarchy and Chinese strict legalism.

Lee Kuan Yew has brought about something that Debord calls the "The integrated spectacle" a synthesis of the authoritarian totalitarian concentrated spectacle made effective through a state of permanent violence and police terror and "The diffuse spectacle" e.g. western liberal democracy a haze of liquid media dense propaganda and advertising.

This has spread form Singapore to china by the way of Deng Xiaoping and from china to the rest of the world. When china becomes the dominant power in the next century and the American empire collapses the only other sociopolitical and economic system that will look stable and efficient

to people will be this integrated spectacle.

if you what a picture of the future imagine Nick land, Lee Kuan Yew and Deng Xiaoping stamping oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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On a scale of 1 to based. How based was this dude?

>Personally leads Yugoslavia through her darkest moments of WW2 with little to no Soviet assistance

>Following WW2, unifies Yugoslavia under a single party.

>Has the balls of steel to defy Stalin at nearly every turn.

>Gave zero fucks about the Percentages Agreement and openly supported the National Liberation Front during the Greek Civil War

>Successfully implemented a based version of market socialism that defies porky's logic

>Held Yugoslavia together as a single ethnic state with his bare hands

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Don't really care much about Greater Serbia or any other Balkan tribalism tbh. Turkey would most likely fuck you up in a war as well, so I'd calm down on those lebensraum dreams



Not if they had a friend indeed and a few Neutron Bombs rigged and reprogrammed to hit all major cities in Turkey. Might just write "Armenia says "Hello from the grave" on the sides of them…hyahyahahahahahah…



I don't think Serbia is capable of any of that



Serbia is closed off right now. Expansion and possible Thermo-barics being used against enemies of a Neo-Nation-State burning bright should not be discounted. We don't need the "Nuclear Option" thanks to making Thermo-Barics nearly as powerful as Nukes in low yield states. As blood boils, one must look to the past and right wrongs, no matter where one is currently located. Maybe you'd like to play as well?



>Not everyone considers USSR a failure.

If they don’t they’re stupid, considering it failed to prevent capitalist restoration within its own borders.

>You don't seem to understand that it is material conditions - the way production is organized - that define how society functions, not desires of people. This is how Capitalism can function with workers hating their bosses.

That’s a super vulgar understanding of histmat. It’s not as if you just change the mode of production and suddenly old ideas and sentiments just disappear. The superstructure still is still capable of influencing the base, as Marx writes:

>Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past.

In other words simply getting rid of capitalism won’t get rid of religion, nationalism, or any other reactionary spooks that can motivate workers to resist socialism. Even after 70 years of socialism in Russia these things are alive and well, even among people born and raised in the USSR. Also, workers don’t simply consent to be ruled under capitalism despite hating their bosses. Capitalist states actively manufacture consent, and history shows that a foreign occupier has an insanely hard time doing this in the long term.

But if you do want to do a vulgar materialist take on this, consider that any form of socialism imposed on an unwilling population would necessarily lack a dictatorship of the proletariat. It would then be an oligarchy of bureaucrats, with little accountability or regard for the well-being of the workers themselves. Even if there isn’t exploitation in the classic sense, they heighten the risk of corruption, revisionism, etc which weakens socialism and provokes workers to anger and unrest. That’s assuming you can even call it socialism when it lacks a DotP.

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Why do so many left-wingers from the USA and European countries want to bring foreigners (including illegals) into the USA and into European countries?! Exactly that only plays into the hands of the reactionary parties and politicians! Because they can represent themselves again as the protectors of the native workers! For example, when the neoliberal capitalists bring foreigners into their countries to let them work for them as cheap laborers, the neoconservative capitalists use this to portray the foreigners as the enemies of the native workers and to present themselves as protectors and by that win the native workers for themselves and their reactionary, neoconservative parties!

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mods are killing the board



Mods are keeping this board alive by anchoring threads we have every week. If you want to talk about how horrible niggers, trannies, jews and women are, go to /leftpol/.



They have power over all nations. They're global.


Fuck off, Marxism is a lot more complicated than a single pamphlet made in the 1800s. It's not a religion, we don't worship the manifesto.



Communism is internationalist by its nature. All workers are equal no matter their country, ethnicity or race. But limitations on 1st world immigration is needed to prevent full fascist glorious uprising.



c.himp out*

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Damn, anti-soviet propaganda is effective like THAT ?

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Hitler and Stalin invaded Poland hand in hand and both committed mass murder there. Oh those pesky facts.



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Okay liberal. It probably sounds nice in your head to live in a fantasy world where "authoritarians" unite against epic freedom liberal democracy when that's not how the world works. Do you know what happened after? Did you not learn about World War 2 in school?

Did you know that the USSR was the last country to sign a non-aggression pact with Germany? Did you know that Poland, Great Britain, France, Italy, Estonia and Latvia had signed pacts with Germany years before the USSR did?

Poland even shared in the partition of Czechoslovakia.



Any source on the second one? Seems handy to have. Tried searching excerpts but got nothing.



The USSR was just securing territory that the Poles had occupied in 1920. Those territories were not rightfully polish, had minority polish populations and were rightly part of the Belarussian, Ukrainian and Lithuanian SSRs.




I would like to thank you for proving my point so effectively.

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Okay my comrades. What do you think the world will look like in 20-30 years? (Given that there isn't a global revolution or society gets wiped out by climate change.)

In my opinion most of the world will become uninhabitable, with megacities on the now-temperate coast of Antarctica. We probably won't have a moon colony yet, but I expect some private enterprise to mine moon rocks and asteroids. Government survelliance will increase, and with it, classism. Many new jobs will need to be forcefully created and most people will make a living tending to machines.

There might be some revolutions in third-world countries, but nothing promiment. Migration will increase and reactionaries will be salty about it.

What do you think, /leftypol/?

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You're fucking stupid. Even if you are a Christian, being a somewhat smart and critical person, you have to recognize that things like Church hierarchy, Celibacy, literal hell and observing said church rituals as a requirement for salvation are unquestionably temporal editions of religious doctrine.


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Every man a God!


fucking nerds will probably make the golden throne from 40k a reality, requiring the souls of millions of redditors from neoconNWO and the donald to keep the reanimated body of Regan alive for endless cyber-battle against chinese hackers. His mind, now a powerful digital singularity, coordinates every ship in the USN and coast guard to ram cargo ships across the globe. Climate change is reversed by seeding the clouds with an aerosolized mixture of urine and plastic bags, plunging the earth into a new ice age.


I believe that we have already been were we are heading as some won't wake up to realize that the technology to get there is not there's to have, changing the future realms and worlds might not be there's but you can do so in this one as of now using each other to spread love as we as humans are very beautiful if we are taught about our ability to think positive things for one another for the future's of our children and so on, protect all life as we have floating city's to look down at our place that man has become apart of to protect it, the clouds we dwell the air we breath the earth we farm will be our future, think positive my friends.




>that the technology to get there is not there's to have

read cockshott

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Does anyone knows did Soviet military hardware fared against nato hardware in the field?

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Yugo explained it well here >>2812899

I'll add to that by pointing out that whenever there were trained units taking part in these wars, they would slaughter Western forces. SA-6s operated by soviet PVO officers annihilated Phantoms and Skyhawks. Syrian PVO was actually pretty good and whenever they weren't getting suppressed by US-provided AWACs systems, they shot every Israeli plane out of the sky, including F-15s and F-16s.



In relation to the picture was the jet lost due to the stall or was the stall recoverable and the jet was lost due to weapons fire from the biplane?



Nope, the USAF idiots flying the plane literally crashed it on their own trying to hit the damn thing. It counts though because the were clearly not letting themselves just be shot to pieces from afar




>Basic Military Training

Link to a photo of this




>It actually worked quite well, even in the early stages of the the German invasion of the USSR

The absolute madlads, damn shame they didn't continue them, with more advanced aircraft

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Does anyone know how highly rated is education in Cuba and how highly rated was education in Soviet Union? I have found info graph that states that according to UNESCO Soviet education system was third best in the world. According to PISA Vietnam and China are both rated highly, but I can't find any information on Cuba or Soviet Union.

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>implying western lies about North Korea, Stalin and Soviet Union are true

Neck yourself or it will be done for you.


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Did you just come from r/socialism or something?

Stop reading Montefiore and other retards like him.

The USSR was not democratic in the traditional sense, because democracy in the West seems to mean "Mob Rule" (regardless of what our politicians may say).

The USSR was a polity of worker soviets, which started on a local level, and built up to the federal government. It is a Cooperative Federalist system in that sense. No soviet leaders until Yeltsin were appointed power based on bloodline, political position or that kind of tripe, even Stalin was elected. If you just look at the Soviet Union's honored constitution, you can clearly see the evidence.

Quote: "Article 36. The Supreme Soviet of the U.S.S.R. is elected for a term of four years."

You can argue semantics but that is individual and not systemic. Farming Co-Ops and Industrial centers were given basal supervision and otherwise maintained themselves, giving only reports to the central government so as to make decisions and accumulate votes for them.

Free Speech and other rights are all in both of the constitutions of the USSR.




No it was not a perfect system, but as I pointed out in the posts I linked, it provides no fewer rights than the USA if not more, and to be judge on double-standards of how it wasn't perfect (when the USA is very far from perfectPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



just because it was the best, doesn't mean it was as good as it should have been



UNESCO has no obligation to tell the truth, they get no punishment for lying.

Journalism is a profession as much as WWE is fighting.



I think that's rubbish, It's more likely the actual capitalist existence and the extreme escapism of slice-of-life anime (where guys get girls all the time) that causes them.

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Watching young people trying to be Socialists nowadays is painful.

Most of them are still in that awkward stage where your radical views are being assiduously interrogated by people around you ("what about Stalin? what about Pol Pot? what about the Soviet Union collapsing? what about north Korea? what about what about what about???") and because they lack the theory, the historical insight and the data to properly understand and explain what Socialist experiments in the XX century tried to do and where and why they were derailed, they usually seek refuge in utopianism.

They start describing themselves as libertarian socialists, left-communists, anarchists, and try to out-do their critics by being the harshest critics of the actually existing Socialism themselves, because they think they're being perceived by others as such rebellious spirits so eager for liberty that they criticize Left and Right with the same relentless fire!! While in reality they're being perceived for what they are: confused young people too chickenshit to be associated with failure, and finding refuge in fantasy as response.

How, in God's name, do we fix this? The right theory and the right teaching of history can give people the foundations to process a thousand Stalins or Venezuelas without losing conviction or entering in panic "Quick! Find ideology that rejects all of those experiments in principle to avoid shame!" mode. But few people learn that by themselves, and we don't have solid organizations where more experienced/educated members can educate newcomers.

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Or edgy jucheists



Well now you're just broad accusations without substance.


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cranky because youre a leftcom arent you



Unfortunately the reactionaries have all the money.


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Roo is a great meme tho

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Let's post some cringey right-wingers. The alt-right, neo-nazis, conservative boomers, libertarians, etc. My folder is mainly MAGA/Kekistan cringe so any other type would be especially welcome.

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Ye, that dude just singlehandedly restored my hope on boomers



Bump because this thread is golden



what the fuck…


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Shocking nobody, a bunch of texts came out showing Patriot Prayer colluding with Portland police as an off-the-books intimidation/harassment squad:


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Look likes the wall is getting built lads. National Emergency has been declared, and Trump gets his funding bill.


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>The wall will be built in 90 days

>3 years later no wall

Rightists are retards.


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And then the separatist Texas and Aztlan factions ally against Amerikkkan imperialism



It really hinges on if the supreme court goes along with it.

Pretty sure it would set a strange precedent, too.


the wall is just symbolic of how cucked white people are by idpol. Instead of taking out their frustrations on the right people, they'll tilt at windmills constructed by the bourgeoisie.

I hope it does get built so then I can laugh at them when it solves nothing.


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Moaist here, this wall will make America a third world country which will induce the potential for revolution, peoples war, and a great leap forward. The revolution wont be burgers at the white house fuck sparrows

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