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Prove to me that anuddah shoah isn't real, if you do then I'll:

1. Become a Communist.

2. Donate 20$ to help people in Africa.

3. Burn my copy of mein kampf and my nazi flag.

4. Delete all white nationalist/national socialist/white supremacist/etc… documentaries, ebooks, pictures etc… from my computer and phone.

5. Finally not be depressed af.

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Maybe if their countries weren't war-torn/austerity/exploitation wracked shitholes created by the western elite they wouldn't want or need to come to the west? Immigrants are generally wealthy citizens of these countries wanting to get away from the unwashed masses or poor members seizing a precarious as hell opportunity to go to the lands of milk and honey. If America collapsed and turned into a steaming pile of garbage your elite would flee like rats from a sinking ship (as they are already preparing for by making hidey holes in New Zealand, where I live). And the American poor/middle class would become boat people. Open your eyes to the reality of material conditions. SJWs are just an inversion of nuttsacs that think all problems are caused by white people/men instead of brown people/women/jews as you do, break away from the hegemony and realize the problem is global capitalism and the elite.


>OP never came back


who cares, the issue is capitalism



>You don't know what true depression is, imagine being a socialist.

Ain't that the truth



I'm back

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I can't think of any good way to respond to this question because I am no anarchist blac block larper

I'm sure Lenin and co encountered niggers like me that said something like "oh capitalism will undo itself no need for me to put my self and my family at risk for a futile struggle orchestrated by crypto-fascists that will betray me anyways," so how have things changed which makes this line of reasoning "valid" today but dangerous and reactionary 100 years ago?


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Well a lot of people were starving in Russia so a revolution seemed like the only option for them, which is why a lot of people here have this obsession with global catastrophes, they can't wait for climate change to push the world into frenzy, they think it will be the perfect moment for a revolution to strike.

The truth is anything could happen.


You have educated yourself, that's a start.

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What are your opinions on this as a tactic? Im fairly new to the left but its something I always thought was the kind method which does get attention but doesn't get positive attention especially as its indiscriminate. I would appreciate the input of more seasoned peopled.

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it's the only way you can actually disrupt the system in a place like the US. You shut down a highway you've cut off supply lines.


it is lazy.

why not set fire to a supermarket or something? if you got like 30 organised comrades then you can take on the fat security guard.



What would setting fire to it accomplish? Break in and take all the essentials to redistribute to the poor if you're gonna do something.





Break in and steal shit (boost) instead




What did he mean by this?

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Let's post some cringey right-wingers. The alt-right, neo-nazis, conservative boomers, libertarians, etc. My folder is mainly MAGA/Kekistan cringe so any other type would be especially welcome.

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>Free yourself from attachment

You're pretty much saying "free yourself from needs". That's impossible.


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this is /pol/ in 2019


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Redpilled enough, goyim?


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I have a couple of questions concerning the function of communist parties; any input from actual members is especially welcomed, as descriptions that go beyond these points:

>What do they discuss?

>How frequent are meetings?

>Where do they meet?

>Do they have it pre-decided who's who in case they take power?

Say, certain people among them have been elected, among them, to be minister of defense, another minister of justice, of the interior, state, etc. in the event they are the ruling party.

>How do they recruit new people? Should a good socialist party have certain requirements of members, such as a basic knowledge of Marx to possibly weed out feds even possibly?



>>Where do they meet?

Burger King if you're Maoist

I'm not joking



Nice try CIA


We discuss destroying Western culture and the White race. The leadership usually passes onto the one with the most Church burnings under his/her belt. We meet during the Full Moon in the place where the moonlit river kisses the shadow cast by the trees.

Hope that helps, Mr. Definately not FBI.





t. doesn't actually go to parties, even as a socialist (lol)


Tbh the best way to build a community in a party is to have a formal meeting, then an inform session in the pub afterwards.

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This thread is deticated to didcussing the worst crimes and atrocoties made by nato. So what are there?

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Wasn't Qaddafi basically a figurehead too? As far as I know when he gave himself the title "Brotherly Guide to the Revolution" or something he gave up most of the actual responsibility of statesmanship.



I read a good book about the Libya intervention by a Swedish polsci professor named Ola Tunander. He basically argues for the evidence pointing to how the Libyan intervention and the toppling of Gadaffi was planned some time in advance by France, the US and UK, and how the regime was toppled in practice. He also goes into detail about how the rebels 'couped' the media coverage of the conflict by establishing a media centre in Benghazi where Western journalists were fed the narrative the rebels wanted them to hear. Illuminating read, really. Shows how even well-intentioned and principled journalists can become unwitting accomplices to the most egregious lies and propaganda.

Problem is that I can't find the book in English. On the off chance that you read Norwegian, this is it: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41668341-libyakrigen---bruken-av-retorikk-og-bedrag-for-delegge-en-stat



Unfortunately I cannot read Norwegian.



Thought so. Fear not, if the info in the book is true, you'll probably find out about it from other sources.

Here are the main conclusions though, IIRC:

- The Libyan intervention was most likely planned before the 2011 protests erupted.

- There was an extensive and effective disinfo campaign from the rebel side.

- The regime fell due to internal divisions. Former loyalists and Libyan emigres turned rebels after co-ordinating with France and following an inflow of cash from Qatar, serving as proxy.

- The Libyan intervention had nothing to do with preserving human rights and everything to do with ye olde geopolitical interests (shocking, I know).

- The Libyan intervention is responsible for the reemergence of the Libyan slave trade, a traditional source of income for certain Libyan elites, specifically those centered around Benghazi, east in Libya (who also were some of the most bitter opponents of Gadaffi).

- The Libyan intervention probably destroyed the legitimacy of the concept of UN R2P-operations for the foreseeable future.


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Here's another book on Libya in English.

Also two other books on Syria.

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1st since Notre Dame fire: Yellow Vests back in action despite ‘unifying’ disaster & they are angry

Yellow Vests protests brought clashes and tear gas back to the streets of Paris, despite politicians’ calls for “unity” in the wake of the Notre Dame fire. For protesters, the response to the fire only showed more inequality.


Macron's polls rise to highest level since yellow vest revolt as French approve his handling of Notre-Dame fire

mmanuel Macron’s approval ratings have risen to levels not seen since before the “yellow vest” revolt erupted last autumn with most French feeling he “rose to the occasion” over the Notre-Dame fire, a poll out on Friday suggests.


Northern Ireland Police Arrest 2 Men In Shooting Death Of Journalist

Police in Northern Ireland have arrested two men in connection with the shooting death of a 29-year-old journalist in Londonderry Thursday night.


N Korea embassy raid in Madrid: 'US Marine arrested'

US authorities have arrested a former US Marine who is allegedly part of a group that raided North Korea's embassy in Madrid, reports say.Christopher Ahn appeared in a Los Angeles federal court, sources say.

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>A burger giving a shit about what a city in a region they're never gonna ever go near is called



>54 percent of french want protests to stop

In short, liberals are faggots and water is wet. There's still about 30-46% french support for the protests to continue.


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> lets go for short term profits!


> Republican discussed violent attacks and surveillance with rightwingers

This is why you just invite people to your home whenever you want to do anything of note. You also don't let anyone in on the full idea.


> leaving aside the reactionary idea that baby boomers are responsible for the poor economic conditions

Well not the generation but the system becoming more corrupt every passing year while no action gets undertaken surely has contributed much. Rest is attributed to economic system, no trade protections in west (-> causing outsourcing and mass migration). Also pic related

> Harvard

Bourgeois liberals, as if anyone from not the elite class can afford their crazy tuition rate for… not even a 'superior' education in many degrees. I don't think people being more inclined to vote for someone like bernie in the USA shows anti capitalism or anything. Democrats use socialist promises to lure people in then when elected throw them off the table and considering Bernie's track record in 2016 he would certainly do so. Social democrats have greatly contributed to the short term policies that are ruining countries in Europe. I'm not really a fan of them their politicians are slimy and when in power they typically don't act much different than their opponents. Frequently they even work together with their supposed opponents in parliaments to screw over the working class together.

With all of this said I don't think USA can really change its course. They have been blowing up bubbles for the past 2 years. Their president gets mad at the federal reserve when they want to limit the growth of this bubble. I think the bubble will burst Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


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>US authorities have arrested a former US Marine who is allegedly part of a group that raided North Korea's embassy in Madrid, reports say.

>Christopher Ahn appeared in a Los Angeles federal court, sources say.



Their national identity

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I'm from the rich part of the middle-east (SA, Qatar, UAE) and the working conditions for most of foreign workers straight out of 3rd world countries are horrible. What can I do knowing that the state monitors nearly everything. I'm thinking about maybe releasing tracts in their languages in some construction sites but I feel like it's really risky. Strikes and unions are illegal so I feel powerless.

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Link Class Struggle with Islamic Fundamentalism




Muammar Qaddafi - The Green Book (Jamahiriya):


Gamal Abdel Nasser - The Philosophy of the Revolution, Book One (Ba'athism):



Don't do anything until the state of the system changes such that you can expect to have a decent chance of success. There's no shame in waiting for the right moment, even if you yourself don't live to see it, you can instill these values in your family. Making small, constrained attempts in the little space a stable authoritarian state gives you won't accomplish much and subjects you to considerable risk. Bide your time, even if it takes decades. Hell you can even work towards a position of power if that's the kind of thing you can pull.

In short be a crypto-leftist, don't engage in token acts of activism and defiance when the benefit will be small and the potential punishment severe.


>tfw oil states have outlawed organized labor and don't even have bourgeois democracy but no one mentions it cause they align with western hegemony

really jingles your jangles



Only if you're a lib high on propaganda about the west supporting democracy.

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Capitalism is a failure. There is no way you can claim the free market rewards innovation or hard work.

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anon you're drunk


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But zhis ish preshishely today's ideology at itsh puresht! We want Chocolate laxative and so on and so on



Is there any market for like, gay ahego or something? Because I can stick my tongue out and look moderately attractive.


not her (?) fault she makes the money

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Leftism on Twitter and Facebook tends to be toxic and populated near exclusively by red liberals. Just recently I spotted some Anarchist whining about "NazBols and Asserites" who are "infiltrating leftist spaces." It seems like there's an entire hive of people with black flags in their names and pronouns in their bios who are really obnoxious and illiterate and who hurt the image of Socialist politics.

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It's just feels like constantly standing alert with a fishnet trying to separate a lobster from a goldfish, keeping peace in the tank.

Let's wait for a few dozen more leftists to arrive before we police them, eh?



Sure, but to carry the metaphor forward if one of the lobsters starts killing goldfish lets pull it out of the tank instead.



and resigning just leaves the idiots in their endless ciclejerk. I had one moment in a pretty anachist sqautting group about gendering all our statements and it wasn't really hard finding a majority consensus against it given that only one university type girl was pushing her hopeless agenda. Maybe I was just lucky but I really think our (as the non-idpol left) field is organizing outside of the internet. I also believe that the height of wokeness is over for a year or so, maybe since the Trump election and while it's important to still agitate against it we are now in a position to start thinking positive again like what we want and how we want it. Maybe I'm just too optimistic but as an clinically depressive white boy that's kinda unlikely?



also fuck the Antigermans but I'm happy when they stay a national problem. I mean - realtalk - Germany will be the last state with a revolution anyway



>Maybe I'm just too optimistic but as an clinically depressive white boy that's kinda unlikely?

yes same, and i want to be optimistic… it does seem like the wave might have peaked as well. there are productive things happening with Backstabbin' Bernie in the united states but of course there's a big fight about it.

and when i said "if you want idpol, join the democrats" i really mean that. i incidentally came into proximity with some democratic party street activists (i mean loyal "party" people) and – while there are some conflicts here as well internally to them – it is pretty wild. like one activist with her jacket covered in pins including one that says "no more white friends." she was white, of course, and when i met her i saw that and made an ironic, smartass joke like "hah, well i guess this means we can't be friends."

again it's this performative, ultra-moralization that is totally self-defeating. there's no real substance to this at all and it has consumed them. as zizek said "where are the marxists here?"


>also fuck the Antigermans but I'm happy when they stay a national problem. I mean - realtalk - Germany will be the last state with a revolution anyway

if i recall correctly there is a similar tendency in the japanese left but i might be wrong. if so, i suppose that's what happens when you're a losing axis power.

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>Google has blocked Press TV and Hispan TV's access to their official accounts on the technology company's platforms, including YouTube and Gmail, without prior notice, citing “violation of policies”.

>“Your Google Account was disabled and can’t be restored because it was used in a way that violates Google’s policies,” Google said in a message that appears after Press TV tries to log into its account.

>The YouTube channels are open to public view for now, but the administrators cannot publish any new content.

>Google has so far refused to provide any explanation for disabling Press TV’s account.

>This is not the first time that Google is blocking Press TV’s YouTube channels.

They've also done this before with Caracas-based Telesur, Damascas-based Sana TV (still gone) and other pro-Syrian channels, further signifying that Google and the US military-industrial complex are in the same club. Russia and China need to create an international competitor to the services provided by Google, Facebook and Twitter to counter US/NATO propaganda and censorship.

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America strkes again.


They're closing in. I predict fullblown fascism in the USA by 2030.


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They also removed pro-DPRK channels like stimmekoreas


First they came for /r/Jailbait, and I did not speak out, because I was not a pedophile


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Nationalized in which country though?

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I found out about this ideology today and I am looking for opinion from /leftypol/


>flavor of the month vacuum ideology #51852

Who cares? Ancapism and Agorism aren't relevant to the real world.


Agorism failed. FBI shut down silk road, and can routinely comprimise exit nodes. The only way to stop the drug war is on Capitol Hill.


To answer your question, Mutualism, agorism, geolibertarianism, and free market anarchism are just ancapism for lefties.



Agorism is a soi-disant-ancap strategy for skirting state regulations by refusing to vote, or engage in changing state policy, and instead building black markets (counter economics).

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>watch zizek vs peterson debate

>realise I'm actually a Zizekian and not a marxist

I guess I should leave this board now

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all marxists are hegelians but not all hegelians are not marxists retard




>are not marxists

are marxists


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Peterson just attacked a strawan of Marxism. So it's pointless.

But Zizek also made some foolish concessions, like we share 98% of genetic material with some monkeys, but we also share 50% generic material with bananas, and can hence directly dismiss the proposal that there can be a simply quantitative relation. There doesn't even seem to be a simple correlation with genetics and politics, ie political views aren't heritable.

He also is worried the wrong way about genetic modification and their potential for control, like you could engineer slaves happy to be enslaved. That's literately the same kind of magical thinking that is mocked in the story where the farmer is trying to wean the mule off food. It's un-delialectical thinking with regards to domestication of animals, people didn't just domesticate animals, this was a mutual process, humans were changed as much as by animals husbandry as the animals were. The only way to actually create a human slave-subspecies is to genetically engineer a dependency for a substance, and who ever controls that substance, controls that human slave-subspecies (technically a disease based on a deficiency, that requires treatment with supplements) Which isn't going to last very long because the premise of having the ability for genetic manipulation negates the perpetuation of genetic control, precisely because genetic manipulation will reduce the level of how determinate human nature can be.

There is a capitalist reason against genetic engineering, and that is because genetically engineered health will basically kill the perpetual cash-cow of big pharma. Basically it's genetic cures as one time cost, versus continuous cost of perpetual treatment.

There is a spiritual reason against genetic engineering too. Spirituality is in large parts about coping mechanisms for the contradiction between the will for survival and the knowledge of certain death, and for quite a lot of people this contradiction is solved via a notion that a part of them lives on in their off-spring, where basically their linage is immortal. And to them genetic engineering will seem like attempting to take away that immortality, because genetic engineering will dissolve linages.

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fuck dialectics

fuck Hegelians

Marxist promoted Historical Materialism

Boog Boy Engels perverted it into DiaMat (hiss)

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What are ways in which humans react poorly with capitalism, particularly its social relations and level of productive forces, even? Is it reasonable to say that human nature is incompatible with capitalism? If so, would this be true for primitive communism, feudalism, or socialism?

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is this the perverted jewish mind I've heard so much about?


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Were you just refreshing this thread, waiting for someone to reply to your shitty post?


Over half this thread is now just Anne Frank-posting, awesome. Keep it up my fellow Frankers.


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I guess Hitler was right after all


yep, Jews are notorious pedophiles (it's allowed in the Talmud). death to judaism!


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Lyra McKee murder: Journalist shot dead during Derry rioting

One of Northern Ireland's "most promising" journalists has been shot dead during rioting that police are treating as a terrorist incident.Dissident republicans are being blamed for killing 29-year-old Lyra McKee after violence broke out during police searches in Londonderry on Thursday.


Ecuador turns to Interpol to arrest former foreign minister & Assange supporter Patino

The former foreign minister of Ecuador will be placed on Interpol’s Red Notice list, after fleeing the country for fear of prosecution, as the government of Lenin Moreno continues to crack down on Julian Assange’s supporters.


'We Pray For The Caliphate To Return': ISIS Families Crowd Into Syrian Camps

The women huddle for shelter from the rain under a corrugated iron roof, their long black cloaks dragging in the mud as they wait in line for food and pray for the return of the ISIS caliphate.


White House says Trump spoke to Libyan commander Haftar on Monday

The White House said on Friday that President Donald Trump spoke by phone to Libyan commander Khalifa Haftar and discussed “ongoing counterterrorism efforts” by the leader of a military assault on the capital of Libya in opposition to the country’s internationally recognized government.

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>Sudan protesters 'to name transitional government'

Based, the protesters are communists.



You sure about that? They very well might be CIA assets like in Syria or Libya



>Space ads will be ‘so popular people would hate them’

Oh god cyberpunk is real



Except Sudan is currently fighting on the side of the Saudi coalition in Yemen. Why would the US want regime change?



No literally these protests were started by the Communist Party of Sudan and the Main trade union. Even wikipedia admits this.

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