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Moderation Feedback and Review

This is a thread for giving feedback and complaints about moderation actions.

Because there are so many new Volunteers right now, we are bound to hit a few bumps in the next week or so. If you see a thread deleted or moderated in a way that you think is unfair, please post ITT, preferably with evidence or a detailed description of it. This won't guarantee a reversal, but it will help bring it to my attention. Volunteers who turn out to be repeat offenders and refuse to learn will have their accounts removed. You can also monitor our actions here:



As well, Volunteers who can't decide what to do about something should post ITT to get feedback before acting.

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FAQ (READ THIS if you're from /pol/ or reddit)

Hello and welcome to /leftypol/. Please check the board tags for related boards. These are our groups:





/leftypol/'s magazine:


Other leftist chans/backups:




>How can you call yourselves leftist politically incorrect?

/leftypol/ posters are allowed to voice opinions that offend liberals, SJWs, and so on. All sects of leftism are allowed to post on /leftypol/, leading to plenty of fighting and shitflinging between leftists, which other forums would tend to ban. However, this was only a minor consideration in the naming of /leftypol/. Since the concept is simply a leftist version of /pol/, the entire name of /pol/ was retained.

>I'm not a leftist can I post here?

/leftypol/ welcomes debate from non-leftists. Non-leftists frequently come here to ask questions and raise topics for debate. Board moderation here is more focused on maintaining a good board index, so non-leftists have to be on better behavior as OP than they do as participants in someone else's thread. If you aren't b8ing or shitposting, your thread is likely to stay up.

>Are you liberals? Are you SJWs? Do you like Obama? Are you all Zionists???

While there are a few liberals here, the majority of posters on /leftypol/ are radical left. They may still be socially liberal, but their economic stances are decidedly not liberal, and likely heavily opposed to the liberal order. As an extension of this, posters here are opposed to "SJWs," because they see them as economically liberal, and socially oppressive. Stances on Obama here range from indifferent, to angry– and the only poster here who shills for Democrats still does so under the premise that they're a lesser evil.

As for Israel, leftism is anti-Zionist. It is not anti-Jew. Unlike /pol/, /leftypol/ fully supports Palestinians, and doesn't think they're "mudslimes."

Pretending to be an SJW or Zionist will very likely get you banned.

>Why did you leave /pol/ and why does this board exist?

We may have "left /pol/," but /pol/ never left us. Since /leftypol/ is so prominent on such a /pol/-dominated website, a lot of debate here comes from /pol/ visitors who are interested in learning about leftism. You are more much more likely to find right wing posters on /leftypol/ than you are to find left wing posters on /pol/. /leftypol/ exists to help the 8chan community focus on leftist topics without being slid or flooded to death.

>Do you support gun control?

While posters on /leftypol/ have varying stances on gun control (training requirements, mental health checks, etc.), they are overwhelmingly in favor of arming the proletariat, and are against banning guns. Famous leftist heroes such as Marx, Orwell, and Huey P. Newton were all pro-gun.

>Do you support "national" socialism?

There are a few posters here who believe that "national" socialism is or can be a leftist stance, but Strasserism and NatSoc are generally regarded as a joke here. You're better off being honest that Nazism is right-wing. Attempting to cloak your hatred for foreigners and other races in pro-worker rhetoric, or similar ploys, might get you banned.

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Anyone else starting to think /pol/ is on to something?

I mean I think both we and the far right agree on one thing: bourgeois liberals are into some sick shit. You don't knowingly uphold a system like this without sacrificing more than a few sacred cows.

Over the past few years, MASSIVE institutional pedophilia has been uncovered, be it Jimmy Saville, The dozens of pedos in the Thatcher regime (no surprise there), and all the pedos in Hollywood, as revealed in An Open Secret AKA the scathing documentary that nobody watched.

Now there's this, and our /pol/tard friends have some decent evidence to back themselves up. Are we going to just ignore this over partisan lines?

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New OC Thread? Old one is dying

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This kills the third worldist.

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Most socdems are barely leftist, they're hovering around center and most socdem parties nowadays are just a tad right-of-centre

>they're counter-revolutionary

>they'd rather collaborate with fascists than communists

>their welfare states get hijacked and burned down everytime by conservatives and liberals (look at how the tories are underfunding the NHS so they have an excuse to privatize)

>they propose bandaids on a cancer patient

>they're not anti-capitalist

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Leftypol survey to see majority of ideologies because some autists think liberals and socdems shouldnt be on a LEFT leaning board

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Sexism in Japan and gaming

We can all agree that Japan is the most sexist country in the world.

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I'm not a religious or superstitious person, but the more I've researched the connection between Pepe the Frog, and Trump's victory… I've come to believe in Meme Magick.

I believe the problem is that the leftist internet doesn't have a strong enough expressed will. We need a sigil of our very own, to unite leftists and dismantle unjust capitalist heirarchies.

I propose the use of Cats, Catgirls, and Cat-Memes to Unite Us. In the Early History of the IWW, workers took a starving cat as their mascot, and when the cat regained healthy they thrived. The controversy surrounding catgirls on reddit is a bad omen, and we must counter by spreading the symbol of socialist and anarchist cats worldwide, in all sorts of rare and valuable memes.

What say you, lefties?

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So the whole /r/socialism just goes to show how important staying away from idpol is, right?

As in, we can't be content with people that are self-described idpolers or unironically sjw to infiltrate the board just as much as we can't allow /pol/tards to. A red flag is when an anon goes "yeah, I disagree with /leftypol/ on the concept of 'idpol' and I think it's quite excellent but I post here anyway…". How is that different than "Yeah, I believe in race realism but I post here anyway…"?

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>tfw been six months since I was a Nazi

>tfw everything finally clicks into place

>tfw always knew something was wrong, and was only exposed to memes and youtube so I got my answers from there

>tfw decided to read Marx to laugh at his justification for paying everyone the same wage

>tfw Das Kapital explains fucking everything i've always known deep down, but contains genuine arguments and logic

>tfw it was so much easier to have one scapegoat for everything

>tfw it was so much easier to be a screaming empty head

>tfw I've been getting ripped off my entire life

>tfw seemingly no one has any idea what Marx actually had to say

>tfw I'm not sure how to word this without sounding euphoric as fuck

How the fuck do we get more people to read Marx? That's literally all I give a fuck about at the moment, holy shit people should be required to read this shit

I don't even care if I sound like a neckbeard, I genuinely feel fucking enlightened.

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Chris Hedges

O-On contact on on contact tact tact

with Abby Martin and Ben Norton


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>Be UK

>Be May

>Believe you are the great British empire

>Make a speech about how you want all the advantages of EU without giving nothing in return

How the fuck are these people even alive, dont they know how negotiations work? Are are britfags so self entitled they believe the world should bend over for them

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What does leftypol think of the communist spies in the US government before and after WWII?

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Whats your political ideology?


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Anyone else /sad/ today? Feel free to talk about it

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What is the de facto difference between syndicalism and fascist corporatism?

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Galactic Libertarianism?

Alright chaps, Im a long time lurker but rarely post, I want to expand on my ideology - Libertarianism. What happens when humans reach space? According to the NAP, could I set up a space station that was run as a dictatorship? Could people under a libertarian system, if they so chose, join a dictatorship? How would the NAP apply in space? Would a station needing aid be helped by another? Or would that violate the NAP?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

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>tfw my boss called me a favorite worker and raised my wages

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The Four Hour Workday

Why did reduction in working hours cease to be part of the demands of most trade unions in the post-war era? Do you think the "work ethic" played a role in this change?

Pic related: IWW propaganda c. the '30s

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Golden Dawn trial

Golden Dawn is a criminal neonazi organization in Greece and is currently on trial for such acts as the murders of Pavlos Fyssas and Shahzad Luqman, as well as the attempted murders of three egyptian fishermen and a group of leftist dock workers, among 60 other criminal cases.

Read more here:



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Why is Switzerland so rich? How does marxism explain switzerland? Are they so rich because they're so dependent on the banking sector for the rich bourgs?

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What is the worst school of thought to come out of leftism in the past 40 years?

A. EuroCommunism

B. Communization Theory

C. Autonomism

D. Post-Marxism

E. Neo-Mutualism/Left-Wing Market Anarchism

F. Third Worldism

G. "Sharing Economy"

H. Post-Left Anarchism

I. Fourth Political Theory/National Bolshevism

J. Other ______ (fill in the blank)

Bonus: who is the worst left-wing theorist to come out of the left in the past 40 years?

Extra bonus: what is that worst theorist's worst work?

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Mike Enoch doxed

https:[email protected][email protected]c141c586ed5#.29bsv867q

Mike Enoch aka Mike Peinovich of TRS has been doxed. Look at this slob lol. The entire alt-reich pack of cards is collapsing.

Here is the best part though. His wife's name is Ames Friedman. The wife of this disgusting neo-nazi is jewish LMFAO.

So not only will he lose his job and never be able to get a decent job again, he will be called a "cuck" by his neo-nazi gang members because his wife is jewish.

This is simply beautiful.

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Comrade Jeb thread?

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Jimmy 'arm the poor' Dore jakes on a reactionary jew and wins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kTbrq8TzZQ

More Proof CIA Has Always Been Full Of Shit:


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Why do we not have a newfag general thread?

I feel like the mods dropped the ball here, but there's still time even though the bulk of newfags has passed.

We need a newfag general thread as, coupled with RDW and the r/socialism drama, /leftypol/ has been getting the most attention since…forever.

Likewise we have lots of confused potential comrades in our threads that dont really understand chan culture yet, or maybe not even proper socialist theory.

A lot of them willing to becomes regulars here will have given up, as image boards are confusing for people who havnt used them before (people from RDW) and we're also all made out to he worse than Hitler, so newfags wont easily be able to differnetiate between shitposting and actual disscusion like the rest of us can (reddit plebs).

It is for this reason we need a thread to accomodate and awnser these people's questions.

Lets either do it here and get this stickied, or make a new thread for it.

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Life Decisions

Is this sort of thinking becoming more apparent?

It's making me doubt dating a Turkish woman who is my co-worker, maybe I'm being paranoid but this sort of thinking is rising in Europe and even Australia.

Should I really let politics determine my life decisions?

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A group of 50 factories in Tianjin found to produce fake seasoning products

Manufacturers at a township in North China's Tianjin Municipality were allegedly found to be counterfeiting brands of food seasoning, like Nestle and Totole, worth more than 1 billion yuan ($145 million), media reported on Monday.

At least 50 plants were allegedly counterfeiting the products in Duliu township, which is known for producing vinegar in northern China, The Beijing News reported. The goods manufactured every day have an estimated value of 500,000 yuan.

A manufacturer surnamed Liu said they have all the popular seasoning brands, including Totole's granulated chicken flavor soup base mix, Nestle's Maggi cooking sauce and Wang Shouyi Shi San Xiang's multi-flavored spice.

The counterfeit soy source is made from industrial salt, artificial coloring and food additives and tap water, the report said.

"Industrial salt is considered dangerous. It contains hazardous chemicals like nitrite - a carcinogen - and heavy metals, which harm the liver and kidney," said Liu Shaowei, a food safety professor at the East China University of Science and Technology.

The report also said that after being used by nearby factories making sunflower seeds, leftover star anise, Sichuan pepper and fennel are dried, grounded, processed and labeled as the multi-flavored spice.

The packaging of fake products is the same as the authentic ones, such as the font size and color, and even the QR codes, The Beijing News reported.


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>he doesn't accept the profound wisdom and correctness of the teachings of comrade Deng

What will it take for you to become a dengist-third worldist?

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What are your thoughts on the DDR?

Even if you hate the former country, you have to admit they had a pretty great national anthem.

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>She never knew what fucking hit her.

>fine upstanding liberal womyn seeks to expose 4chan's dastardly plot to create white babies

>she knows the 14 words

>knows all about meme magic

>doesn't realize she isn't a normie anymore

my fucking sides ahahahahahahhaha


>weve gotta stop these fucking nazis

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/leftypol/s oppinion on the falkland/malvinas

who does the islands belong too?

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>walking to one of my classes today

>pass by two guys talking to each other about how marxism is a completely idealistic system that will never work

What motivates people to talk about something they have no understanding of?

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/Rojava/ general

Based Apo edition

>what is Rojava?

The Democratic Federal System of Northern Syria, also called Rojava, is a region in northern Syria that has become self-governing in the wake of the Syrian Civil War.

>why should /leftypol/ care?

The ideology of the Democratic Union Party (PYD), the leading party in the coalition which currently governs Rojava, is a libertarian socialist strain of thought called Communalism. Communalism was developed by the American ex-anarchist Murray Bookchin and later attracted the attention of Abdullah Öcalan, the imprisoned leader of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) in Turkey. From there, the ideology spread to the predominantly Kurdish Rojava.

>so they're Kurdish nationalists?

Kurdish nationalist parties have a presence in Rojava, but the aforementioned governing coalition is multiethnic. Arabs, Assyrians, and other minorities are present in Rojava, and strives have been made to represent these groups in the politics of Rojava.

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Nationstates Leftybol

Last thread 404'd as I was engaging in proletarian weekend activities, so lets pick up from where we left.

>TLDR game about national issues, I let leftypol choose the best choice and then we see what a trainwreck our socialist utopia would be

So far this is what we have https://www.nationstates.net/nation=leftybol

The People's Republic of Leftybol is a tiny, environmentally stunning nation, remarkable for its public floggings, irreverence towards religion, and stringent health and safety legislation. The compassionate, democratic population of 14 million Buckoes love a good election, and the government gives them plenty of them. Universities tend to be full of students debating the merits of various civil and political rights, while businesses are tightly regulated and the wealthy viewed with suspicion.

The enormous, socially-minded, outspoken government prioritizes Welfare, although Education, Defense, and Healthcare are also considered important, while International Aid receives no funds. The average income tax rate is 70.0%, and even higher for the wealthy.

The basket case Leftybolian economy, worth 136 billion labour vouchers a year, is driven entirely by a combination of government and state-owned industry, with private enterprise illegal. The industrial sector is mostly made up of the Trout Farming industry. Average income is 9,753 labour vouchers, and distributed extremely evenly, with practically no difference between the richest and poorest citizens.

Citizens applying for their first jobs face fierce competition from the homeless, elections are won by the candidate who makes the best 'yo mama' jokes, immigrants who don't like the taste of Leftybolian Turnip Chips are immediately deported, and every week is blindness awareness week. Crime is totally unknown, thanks to a well-funded police force and progressive social policies in education and welfare. Leftybol's national animal is the spook, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests.

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Hello friends, favour to ask, could somebody please proofread my manifesto, I've done it myself from when I last posted it but I'm sure I can't have got everything. Also evidently I am grammatically spelling retarded so I probably fucked it up some.

Pretty please gomrades

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>reddit would ban him

>bourgie mods would lecture him about oppression

>they think they have more serious and productive discourse

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>tfw your comrade compliments you on a job well done at your collectively-owned workplace

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Are specialised workers proles?

Once I called this person I knew a "petit-bourg" due to the fact they had quite a bit of wealth and a nice house. They're actually in a semi-famous band and were working as weapons engineers or something. (Forgive me, I don't know the actual title but it was developing weapons for Israel.)

Are they proletarians or bourgeoisie, /leftypol/? Are these distinctions muddier now than they were in Marx's time? Is a high-earning doctor or weapons designer in the employ of a state any better than a small business owner?

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the anti fascist 3 arrows are a much cooler symbol than the hammer and sickle or the cicled a, we should adopt it

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So anyone of you guys going to the Trump inauguration protests on Friday?


Going to be pretty fun triggering fascists and pigs.I wouldn't want to miss out if I was you.

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On the Jewish Question

So after reading this my mind is fucking wasted and extremely confused.

If Marx known and wrote that jews are so greedy and mischievous.

Why were so many communist revolutionaries all jewish?

For example in Germany almost all of them were actual jews.

Most soviet bolsheviks like Yazov, Yagoda, Trotsky, Radek etc were jews who Stalin purged later

Stalin himself had a lot of Anti-Semitic thinking and even before WW2 started during Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact considered to purge the ministry of jews.

Nazis were self professed "Socialists" who fought 🍀🍀🍀Capitalists🍀🍀🍀 to destroy class system in germany and to replace it with "Volk" class (Basically workers class but more adjusted to Nationalism).

Hitler himself had some personal admiration from Marx's dreams even tho he hated him.

Mussolini before basically creating Fascism was a hardcore Socialist but later changed to hardcore Nationalist adopting Fascio system (United we are strong)

So it got me thinking…

Did jews try to compromise Marx's ideas to prevent eventual Revolution?

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why he claim that he is not class esentialist, but he said that class struggle is most important one?

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>Davos: responsible capitalism

>Today, the global political and economic elite meet in Davos Switzerland under the auspices of the World Economic Forum (WEF). Every year the WEF has an annual meeting in the super exclusive ski resort of Davos, with the participation of 3,000 politicians, business leaders, economists, entrepreneurs, charity leaders and celebrities. For example, this year Chinese president Xi Jinping, South Africa’s Jacob Zuma and many of the economic mainstream gurus and banking officials are among the attendees. Xi Jinping will be the first Chinese president to attend Davos and will lead an unprecedented 80-strong delegation of business leaders, economists, academics and journalists. He will deliver the opening plenary address on Tuesday and use it to defend “cooperation and economic globalisation”.

>US vice-president Joe Biden, China’s two richest men and London mayor Sadiq Khan will travel on private jets to nearby airports before transferring by helicopter to escape the traffic on the approach to the picturesque town. So many jets are expected that the Swiss government has opened up Dübendorf military airfield, an 85-mile helicopter flight away, to accommodate them. The increase in private jet flights – which each burn as much fuel in one hour as typical use of a car does in a year – comes as the WEF warns that climate change is the second most important global concern.

>While the rich elite fly in on their private jets, extra hotel workers are being bussed in to serve the delegates, while packing into five a room in bunk beds. One of the main themes of Davos will be the rising inequality of income and wealth. So Davos itself is a microcosm.

>At Davos’ super luxury hotel the Belvedere, there will be “specially recruited people just for mixing cocktails”, as well as baristas, cooks, waiters, doormen, chambermaids and receptionists to host world leaders, business people and celebrities, who this year include pop star Shakira and celebrity chef Jamie Oliver (worth $400m). Last year, a Silicon Valley tech company was reportedly charged £6,000 for a short meeting with the president of Estonia in a converted luggage room. The hotel has also previously flown in New England lobster and provided special Mexican food for a company that was meeting a Mexican politician.

>Britain’s Theresa May will be the only G7 leader to attend this year’s summit as it clashes with Donald Trump’s inauguration as the 45th US president. Last year, former UK PM David Cameron partied tie-less with Bono, Leonardo DiCaprio and Kevin Spacey, at a lavish party hosted by Jack Ma, the founder of internet group Alibaba and China’s richest man with a $34.5bn (£28.5bn) fortune. Tony Blair also attended the Ma party last year.

>Basic membership of the WEF and an entry ticket costs 68,000 Swiss francs (£55,400). To get access to all areas, corporations must pay to become Strategic Partners of the WEF, costing SFr600,000, which allows a CEO to bring up to four colleagues, or flunkies, along with them. They must still pay SFr18,000 each for tickets. Just 100 companies are able to become Strategic Partners; among them this year are Barclays, BT, BP, Facebook, Google and HSBC. The most exclusive invite in town is to an uber-glamorous party thrown jointly by Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska and British financier Nat Rothschild at the oligarch’s palatial chalet, a 15-minute chauffeur-driven car ride up the mountain from Davos. In previous years, Swiss police have reportedly been called to Deripaska’s home after complaints about the noise of his Cossack band. Deripaska’s parties have “endless streams of the finest champagne, vodka, and Russian caviar amidst dancing Cossacks and beautiful Russian models.”

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WE 3rd NOW


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In light of our new third place I just want to offer a theory.

First we raided, caused some controversy in 4pol and pissed them off, that caused a whole load of negative traffic here, BUT once that settled evidently we had changed some minds cos the numbers remained up.

Then we got hit with this reddit bs. Again, some negative coverage but overall our numbers will probably be slightly higher after they drop again.

This is how it works, this how Trump did it. You say or do something outrageous, back it up boldly, and then let the controversy itself let the idea stick in a few minds. The people you do not convince were not convinced in the first place. You have literally nothing to lose by being controversial. Particularly in the meme age.

I suggest we use the boards rising stature to organise and disseminate.

You all know I have written a manifesto, and that within that I suggest the creation of situationist cells. The very idea of these cells is to cause controversy, to create public events that essentially lead to large amounts of shitposting.

I want to viralize the radical left just like what happened to right.

We need to stir things up. We need to rock the boat instead of just saying we should change rudder or captain.

At this stage I'm just looking for people to give me an email address so we can discuss things further.

I already have interested parties and I would really like to try and get as many people from all over interested.

Obviously nothing can happen right now, but the idea is that I am going to keep posting threads like this and gradually gather contacts until I have something that resembles a group and we can decide which step to take form their as a group.

I do however have a fairly good idea of what I would like to take place, I merely aim to convince you of that.

I have seen so many people here posting about how they would get involved in activism but it seems stale or ineffective or idpol and such.

Why don't we start afresh, with a new program for a new left, one that offers a coherent set of goals to achieve, without immediately upsetting the prevailing order, but very definitely transforming it.

Now is the perfect time for the far left. We have to ride on the reaction against Trump and the betrayal of his own supporters. We have to capitalise on the disillusionment with the centre left.

We have to do something. We have to do something now.

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Donald Trump promises health "insurance for everybody"



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Pkk and YPG

Are they kill ?

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Why does Zizek keep talking about Judith Butler? Does he have some secret, unrequited crush on her or something?

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North korea

Is it real communism?

is Kim as evil as the us media portrays him?

Are people still starving there?

Why do they literally worship the Kim family?

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Now let me just make one thing clear, because many of you extremists can not understand this.

Communists do NOT have a monopoly on workers rights.

Libertarians do NOT have a monopoly on freedom.

White supremacists do NOT have a monopoly on strong borders and patriotism.

We do not need extremist loosers destroying the great society that has been built over the years in Europe. We have freedom, workers are treated extremely well and we love our countries. So don't any of you people come here and tell me that social democracy is not the greatest system that has been created and put to use so far.

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Could you guys please recommend some YouTube channels to me? Thanks!

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Do you think that communism is compatible with religion?

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/r/Socialism mods hold open house

So, the moderators from /r/socialism held somewhat of an "open house" last night where people could come in and ask them questions. There's a recording of it, here:


There are some audio issues, and there are some people that you can't hear, but there's some very interesting stuff in there.

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>tfw Zizek will never critique your favourite porn scene and expose the ideology behind it

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Hello newfriends from Reddit.

Just a reminder that everyone here likes Murray Bookchin.

When someone comes in here and starts talking about some other bullshit, the correct response is to call them a faggot and tell them to Google Murray Bookchin.

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Did the Elites Have Martin Luther King Jr. Killed?

The most compelling argument against the existence of a vast conspiracy orchestrating the assassinations of Jack and Bobby Kennedy is that the brothers were never threats to ruling power. The Kennedys were card-carrying members of the global elites, ran in their circles, catered to their whims, administered their political and economic bidding. (Just ask Fidel Castro.)

With MLK, it could be a different matter. And with the infinitely more radical Malcolm X it certainly was. Whatever King’s actual function–and the Reverend was given a hard time as something of an Uncle Tom by radicals in the later Sixties–the ruling power construed him as a threat.


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America hate general

>work for CNN

>order something from ebay

>package doesn't arrive on time, completely forget about it

>3 months later a misterious package arrives at my door

>start tweeting that THE RUSYANS are after me

>trying to kill me with mailbombs

>call the cops

>turns out it was my ebay order all along


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Relationships in a communist society

Greetings, comrades.

What way do you propose to treat relationships in a communist society? Since nobody really owns anything, can we truly blame partners for "cheating", as the cuckitalists put it? After all, everything is shared, comrade!

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Decentralized Planned Economy

Can someone explain a decentralized planned economy? Right now I'm for centralized but decentralized sounds pretty cool to.

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Why does /r/socialism hate you all so much, /leftypol/?

Are bridges burned and mods there entirely unwilling to listen, forgive, and build bridges?

Is their opposition to you because of your lack of interest in and support for the social justice movement, or just an excuse? Would other lefty internet groups on reddit or elsewhere suddenly be cool with leftypol if you rallied around trans-rights and acceptance, social justice, feminism, and so forth? What if you did that while also quite simply packing up and leaving 8chan with all of its baggage and starting your own chan, leftychan or whatever?

Or again, are they just an excuse and justification?

Furthermore, you can use this thread to represent your own views on social justice, feminism, transgender rights and so forth.

I am a transwoman myself, and hold agree with a lot of the social justice movement aside from a few areas, such as people mistaking cultural appreciation for cultural appropriation, and people harassing others for that. That is going too far, but as a whole, I support the social justice movement, and the social justice movement has support for me in return as a transwoman.

But I'm also not really a channer or a leftypol, this is my first post here and I haven't used a chan in years. Last time I posted on a chan board was /jp/ since I like Touhou, and it was still a pretty awful place in comparison to other places to Touhou talk.

Honestly, I want to stick up for your side in all this. But I don't know enough about you all and what is going on. I'm just a redditor and former NeoGAF user stopping by to get a feel for things.

Picture of bunny girl because bunny girls are comrades.

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Brocialism and Manarchism general

ITT: we talk about our chauvinistic plot to turn communism into an ideology thats solely about the oppression of women

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Is One-Party Social Democracy inherently fascism?

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Red star videos

Has anyone seen these faggot? We really need all of our YouTube personalities to counter these bill shot videos because I'm sick and tired of liberal social justice warriors dressed in red pretending to be socialists ruining the image of my ideology to normal people who are trying to learn. If this is what you thought socialists were like I wouldn't blame you for not wanting to be one.


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You: 8 people own half the world's wealth. How unfair.

Me, a SocDem: Well, let me stop you there because a couple of those guys are really nice.

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does the fact that "primitive communism" never existed have any bearing on Marxist ideology? we have evidence of private property ownership dating back 20,000+ thousand years. Recent history (last couple thousand years, definitely attests to this as well).

Seems people are wired to appreciate and be motivated by private property, private family building, private ownership of the means of production, private land ownership, etc.. And even engaging willingly in selling their labor at a fair price.

Also the idea of an organized group having no hierarchy and power-differences seems absurd, considering people have different skills, intelligence levels and motivations in life. Some actually enjoy being followers and not worrying about maintaining land or businesses, while others like being leaders, owning land and toiling constantly.

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Global Leftism Map

how did I do?

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Official Leftcom Power Rankings


Councilism / Pannekoek


Situationism / Debord







Prove me wrong

>protip: you can't

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Where's the hope for the United Kingdom

I'm not seeing it right now honestly, could someone enlighten me?

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Shareholders run cooperatives

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Free market capitalism does not wor-

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It's coming, buckos

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Bestiality thread

should bestiality be legal in socialism society?

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Actual accelerationist manifesto

What will a serious "accelerationist"s goals be?

Here's my thinking:

1 Global neoliberal Capitalism cannot be challenged on a local or national level with an alternative system, because X y z and so on

2 capitalisms contradictions are worsening, and future crisis will get worse and worse, with the system totally breaking down in the future

3 because we cannot change this course through reform, and revolution will be crushed, the left's primary goal should be the maintenance of democracy (even bourgeois democracy) and a Constitution, and universal human rights, so that when collapse does occur, humanity will not be locked in a permanent dystopia of mega corps owning us all as slaves or outright exterminating us

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>tfw let go from my corporate job into the sweet arms of NEETdom once again

2017 is looking up!

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Arguments that make you rage

>have you ever lived in the kind of society you advocate for? because I have, and [proceeds to argue against the USSR and not against communism as a whole]

Bonus points if the person is less than 30 years old, if he left the country when he was very young, or if the person is some nazi from Sweden and not actually from a Warsaw Pact country.

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>tfw you explore the galaxy with your comrades and improve yourself because of full automation and a post-scarcity society

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So because we're not in a communist society yet I can't do what I like because I wouldn't earn enough money with it.

I really hate our current system and I want to make it my job to fight against it and push for the communist cause.

Which jobs that earn money fight for the communist cause?

What studies at college or uni would be helpful for these jobs?

Is becoming a politician my only option?

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ancaps on differance between personal and private property


Are Anarcho-Capitalist right? Refute this, please.

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conflicted right-winger lolbertarian here

getting more interested in marxist critique of capitalism, and finally discovered the truth of the free trade meme.

I just cant stand leftists and socialists irl, they seem so smug and condescending. Also mass immigration was one of the things in which I departed from libertarianism, but socialists seem to love it just as much which seems in contradiction.

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Abudance and Scarcity in Our Age

Do we live in an era of artificial scarcity? Why — and how — is it enforced? What are the consequences on, say, the length of the average working day? What kind of world would we live in if artificial scarcity didn't exist?

Please post links to relevant articles if you know of some!

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What's the deal with Anarcho-Communism?

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Is Unkle Adams part of the far left?

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Is /pol/ the last bastion of true intellectual thought?

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What is it and how does it work?

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>The most depressing aspect of the post-electoral period in the US is not the measures announced by the President-elect but the way the bulk of the Democratic Party is reacting to its historic defeat. Notably, its supporters oscillate between two extremes: the horror at the Big Bad Wolf called Trump and the obverse of this panic and fascination — the renormalization of the situation, the idea that nothing extraordinary happened, that it is just another reversal in the normal exchange of Republican and Democratic presidents: Reagan, Bush, Trump… Along these lines, Nancy Pelosi “repeatedly brings up the events of a decade ago. For her, the lesson is clear — past is prologue. What worked before will work again. Trump and the Republicans will overreach, and Democrats have to be ready to jump at the opportunity when they do.”[1] Such a stance totally ignores the real meaning of Trump’s victory, the weaknesses of the Democratic Party that rendered it possible, and the radical restructuring of the entire political space this victory announces.


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Im learning about Anti-fascists

Do I need to start with the first book or can I read some of the more newer ones in this series

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Why would one of our own take advantage of mentally ill autistic poorfag neets?

These mentally retarded /pol/ters are clearly the type of people most corrupted by our capitalist system of oppression and instead of giving them a helping hand we have instead profited from them?

How do we show these poor souls the light?

If you see a /pol/ack in need link him to a mental health hotline and try talking him down.

Be as nice as possible.



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Fetishes and Politics

So I have been noticing a regular trend, mainly that people with strong political opinions also have extremely perverted sexual desires, for example, nazis into cuckoldry, anar hists into BDSM, cappies and bourgys into financial domination, feminists into rape play and so on.

My question here is if someone has noticed the same, and what do you make up of it? I am completly speechless about this, I simply can't find a reason. I am not saying it happens to everyone, but it is a noticeable trend from my times talking with people

Could it be that its our sexualmdesires what cause a strong political opinion? Or is it backwards?

What authors should I read? So far I' ve read some books by foucault and basic psycoanalitic theory

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Revolutionary Strategy

Can a Communist society be achieved without a civil war? I mean, if we organize enough of the working class into labor co-ops, trade unions, and convinced enough of them to boycott the the state and market system by not working, not buying consumer commodities, and not voting, could we cause the collapse of the Capitalist system? And on top of the already existing pressure from environmental crisis and the automation of all production to computer/AI, could the Capitalist system cease to exist without forming a vanguard party?

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8 people own over half of the world's wealth

If you dont know, now you know.

8 men now own half of the worlds wealth. go ahead and google it.

of these 8, 6 are american and 5 are American democrats. Of these 5 American democrats, 3 of them, Gates, Bezos, and Zuckerberg got immensely rich by giving US gov't interests special backdoors and unfettered use of their systems.

Fuck these liberal porkies (and the one conservative porker)

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What does leftypol think of masculinity? Do you consider yourself masculine? Are you confident in your masculinity? Do you believe it is important for you to be masculine?

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Definitive Socialist Video Games Thread

Hey, I'm planning to make a video on opinionstube with this topic so that nobody will have to make this topic again, but bear with me one last time to gather material! Help me come up with the definitive list.

My current list (I forgot them all):

Liberal Crime Squad

Hostile Waters

Deus Ex

what else?

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>tfw the first christians lived in a communist society

>tfw god himself killed a kulak and his wife for not sharing his wealth with the commune

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World's eight richest people have same wealth as poorest 50%

The world’s eight richest billionaires control the same wealth between them as the poorest half of the globe’s population, according to a charity warning of an ever-increasing and dangerous concentration of wealth.

In a report published to coincide with the start of the week-long World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Oxfam said it was “beyond grotesque” that a handful of rich men headed by the Microsoft founder Bill Gates are worth $426bn (£350bn), equivalent to the wealth of 3.6 billion people.

The development charity called for a new economic model to reverse an inequality trend that it said helped to explain Brexit and Donald Trump’s victory in the US presidential election.

Oxfam blamed rising inequality on aggressive wage restraint, tax dodging and the squeezing of producers by companies, adding that businesses were too focused on delivering ever-higher returns to wealthy owners and top executives.

The World Economic Forum (WEF) said last week that rising inequality and social polarisation posed two of the biggest risks to the global economy in 2017 and could result in the rolling back of globalisation.

Oxfam said the world’s poorest 50% owned the same in assets as the $426bn owned by a group headed by Gates, Amancio Ortega, the founder of the Spanish fashion chain Zara, and Warren Buffett, the renowned investor and chief executive of Berkshire Hathaway.

The others are Carlos Slim Helú: the Mexican telecoms tycoon and owner of conglomerate Grupo Carso; Jeff Bezos: the founder of Amazon; Mark Zuckerberg: the founder of Facebook; Larry Ellison, chief executive of US tech firm Oracle; and Michael Bloomberg; a former mayor of New York and founder and owner of the Bloomberg news and financial information service.

Last year, Oxfam said the world’s 62 richest billionaires were as wealthy as half the world’s population. However, the number has dropped to eight in 2017 because new information shows that poverty in China and India is worse than previously thought, making the bottom 50% even worse off and widening the gap between rich and poor.

With members of the forum due to arrive on Monday in Switzerland, where guests will range from the Chinese president Xi Jinping, to pop star Shakira, the WEF released its own inclusive growth and development report in which it said median income had fallen by an average of 2.4% between 2008 and 2013 across 26 advanced nations.

Norway, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Iceland and Denmark filled the top five places in the WEF’s inclusive development index, with Britain 21st and the US 23rd. The body that organises the Davos event said rising inequality was not an “iron law of capitalism”, but a matter of making the right policy choices.

The WEF report found that 51% of the 103 countries for which data was available saw their inclusive development index scores decline over the past five years, “attesting to the legitimacy of public concern and the challenge facing policymakers regarding the difficulty of translating economic growth into broad social progress”.

Basing its research on the Forbes rich list and data provided by investment bank Credit Suisse, Oxfam said

the vast majority of people in the bottom half of the world’s population were facing a daily struggle to survive, with 70% of them living in low-income countries.

It was four years since the WEF had first identified inequality as a threat to social stability, but that the gap between rich and poor has continued to widen, Oxfam added.

“From Brexit to the success of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, a worrying rise in racism and the widespread disillusionment with mainstream politics, there are increasing signs that more and more people in rich countries are no longer willing to tolerate the status quo,” the report said.

The charity said new information had shown that poor people in China and India owned even fewer assets than previously thought, making the wealth gap more pronounced than it thought a year ago, when it announced that 62 billionaires owned the same wealth as the poorest half of the global population.

Mark Goldring, chief executive of Oxfam GB, said: “This year’s snapshot of inequality is clearer, more accurate and more shocking than ever before. It is beyond grotesque that a group of men who could easily fit in a single golf buggy own more than the poorest half of humanity.

“While one in nine people on the planet will go to bed hungry tonight, a small handful of billionaires have so much wealth they would need several lifetimes to spend it. The fact that a super-rich elite are able to prosper at the expense of the rest of us at home and overseas shows how warped our economy has become.”

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Revolutionary Feels

Thread for sharing personal weird feelings or things that make us sad related to being a leftist.

>tfw the only people who legitimately share your ideology are your grandparents and their friends because they're the only ones who actually lived through a revolution of sorts and know it's badass.

>tfw you know that despite being very familiar with revolutionary though, you're still too corrupted by years of living in a predatory capitalist society to ever adapt to the society you know is ideal.

>tfw you know it's so fucking simple but people just don't seem to believe in it anymore.

What weirds you out, comrades?

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Revolutionary potential in the first world

Does anyone think we can do this in the first world, as we have more to lose than our chains? Or do you think there could be things that could trigger one.

I'd say send SJW/libers to the gulags to start with! This could help us focus on the true issues!

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who /revisionist/ here?

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What is to be done after Revolution?

Looking at picrelated I realized three things:

1) It's funny how people resort to strawmanning, rather than to explaining what should actually be done.

2) Picrelated boils down to scaring people away with implied "don't support revolution, you can get only death squads and slave labour".

3) I'm afraid that people will take this seriously and will try this (once their non-violent Council MarkSoc crashes with no survivors), believing that's how Soviets actually managed to keep power.

So, how do you actually intend to "keep new society from regressing"?

- there is less than a week of food in stores

- workers don't know how to manage factories

- currency hyperinflation had reached 300% per day

- Bourgeois states had embargoed the shit out of you

- gangs, right-wing militia and rogue elements of police/army are active

- Bourgeois agitators are spreading vile rumours about your intended policies (kill all whites, for example; Bolsheviks got the infamous "socialization of women"), causing riots

- both moderate and ultra-left groups say that everything you do is wrong (regardless of what you do), and current government should re-elected (regardless of when or how the elections happened)

- somebody had started assassination campaign against key members of your groups

Easy mode: you are not being invaded by 5+ nations.

Hard mode: keep power and don't get called (Red) Fascist.

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What do lefties think of Ronald Reagan?

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Is there more of a commie cartoonist than Ben Garrison?

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Automation is estimated to kill 5 million jobs

>Over five million jobs will be lost by 2020 as a result of developments in genetics, artificial intelligence, robotics and other technological change, according to World Economic Forum research.

>About 7 million jobs will be lost and 2 million gained as a result of technological change in 15 major developed and emerging economies, WEF founder Klaus Schwab and managing board member Richard Samans said in "The Future of Jobs." The findings are taken from a survey of 15 economies covering about 1.9 billion workers, or about 65 percent of the world’s total workforce.

>The blurred lines between physical, digital and biological spheres amount to a Fourth Industrial Revolution, according to the WEF, which will address the idea as the idea at its annual meeting of policy makers, academics and economists in Davos, Switzerland. It’s already a hot topic thanks in part to books such as ‘The Second Machine Age’ and ‘The Rise of The Robots,’ while Bank of England Chief Economist Andy Haldane has warned that the millions of jobs at risk from automation are creating issues officials need to address.

>"To prevent a worst-case scenario – technological change accompanied by talent shortages, mass unemployment and growing inequality – reskilling and upskilling of today’s workers will be critical," the authors said. "It is simply not possible to weather the current technological revolution by waiting for the next generation’s workforce to become better prepared."

Jobs Warning

>Administrative and office jobs will account for two-thirds of the losses, with "routine white-collar office functions at risk of being decimated," and there will be gains in computer, mathematical, architecture and engineering-related fields. Women will be disproportionately hit by the changes because of their low participation in the STEM fields of science, technology, engineering and mathematics.

The countries covered by the survey included Australia, Brazil, China, France, Germany, India, Italy, Japan, Mexico, South Africa, Turkey, the U.K. and the U.S.

"It is critical that businesses take an active role in supporting their current workforces through re-training, that individuals take a proactive approach to their own lifelong learning and that governments create the enabling environment, rapidly and creatively, to assist these efforts," the authors said.

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Get 20 of your friends in here now!

/Leftypol/ almost to the #03 spot.

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10 thousand hours in autism.exe and 1 hour in paint.net

please no bully

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Was he a mistake?

Should we not have been content with Rhodesia?

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ITT: Your favorite hypothetical communist country flags

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Why haven't you accepted energy credit distribution and biophysical economics as the practical answer to organizing the economy during the transitional phase of socialism?

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IRC Channel

Sorry to flood, but iIassociated with /leftypol/? #/leftypol/ on rizon has no admins. I'll idle in there anyway, but I was just wondering.

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>open catalog


>no MLK thread

Happy birthday MLK!

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if my only option for work were a job with a boss and hourly wage, i'd probably be a neet.

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Kulaks: The Movie


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/ourguy/ General

Leftist characters and stories in popular media

Since some people love to post this meme so much, let's have one thread for this specifically and make it actually useful.

Who are some well-known characters who are or resemble leftists?

What are some popular shows, movies, animu, video games, etc. with leftist or proto-leftist elements? Characters, plotlines, themes, whatever.

Does this sort of thing help raise class consciousness or otherwise promote leftist goals?

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communist here. What brand of cigarettes should i smoke to be the least reactionary?

i had cousins in PFLP who only smoked winston lights because they werent made in america.

is there a brand of cigarettes where the money doesn't go to some fuckshit like israel/funding right wing countries?

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Michel Foucault on Boring Shit

> Knowledge is intrinsically related to pleasure. Surely there must exist a way to eroticize knowledge, to make it highly appealing. That official education doesn't seem capable of making that obvious, that it seems to purposefully present knowledge as off-putting, bland, humdrum, non-erotic… I find that to be a peculiar feat — for which there must certainly be a motivation. Why would our society want to make knowledge look so dull? Maybe precisely because of the people that end up excluded from access to that very knowledge.

> Imagine people having an urge for knowledge the same way they have an urge for making love. Could you imagine the size of the crowds rushing to schools in droves? It would cause severe social disruption. It makes sense for a society seeking to limit people's access to knowledge to make it as unstimulating as possible and to limit the incentives to learn to secondary rewards such as competitive diplomas or high salaries.

Michel Foucault, 1975

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Dubtrack thread

Join in niggers and play all the music that you want no matter what, although classical is preferable over jazzcuckry


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>the one Nazbol on this board who LARPs and dresses up in brownshirts to his college classes

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Is Alienation a completely Humanist argument and therefore should be dropped? Did Marx drop it later on?

What does Althusser think?

To me, it seems one of the best, and most radical ways to explain to the proletariate how the structures and systems they are in are not in their best interests - mostly because just a higher min/living wage won't satiate the worker who thinks all of capitalism alienates them.

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White fucking males


proof that white people commit most of the crimes, at least in Texas

Via Texas's top 10 most wanted list


How will police identify suspects in a race-free world?

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First 48 tributes get go in the game

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Irish Neocon Mark Humphrys


Is there a shittier person on Earth?

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Google Murray Bookchin

This is a good podcast and you should listen to it.


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/pol/ & /leftypol/ BTFO! Martin Luther King, Jr's Niece Announces She Voted For Donald Trump

Dr. Alveda King, the pro-life niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., has just done something that’s turned the liberal world upside down. What she just announced sent a shockwave through the rank and file Democrat world, and it’s safe to say, the left did not want you to hear the surprise King announced today.

It is most certainly purposeful that Dr. Alveda King chose today, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day, to make her stunning announcement, admitting she voted for Donald Trump in the presidential election this past November.

The 65-year-old Evangelist and Director of Civil Rights for the Unborn made her earth-shaking announcement in an interview with The American Thinker:

“I pray that all polar opposites learn to Agape Love, live and work together as brothers and sisters—or perish as fools. While I voted for Mr. Trump, my confidence remains in God, for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Prayers for President-elect Trump, Congressman Lewis, and everyone including leaders.”

The reference Alveda King made in regard to Congressman Lewis stems from the most recent mainstream media manufactured controversy, where Lewis stated that he won’t be attending Donald Trump’s inauguration.



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Rate, comment, and subscribe.

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Furries appear all over the place in most 1st world countries because dont people live in shitholes and actually get to find themselves and what they like instead of scrapping the garbage for food.

Could they become a hidden agent of change since their numbers are increasing tremendously thanks to the internet and appear all over the world, most are liberal and a big percent of them are homosexual, one of the few stereotypes out there that are statistically correct.

Source: https://furrymap.net/

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Why do populists like the pee pee man and UK autist always try to paint the world as some collapsing disaster while things are getting better?

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Really makes you think….

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poverty denial and Discursive anti poor violence

"" a recent trend in the more "intellectual" sectors of the US far-right has been to openly deny the existence of poverty based on the fact that the poor have access to things like TV, computers, and transportation. The above definition of "relative poverty" is important here, primarily because of the lack of acknowledgment of such a thing by the aforementioned denialists.

Regarding the specific "luxury items" that poverty denialists point to as evidence that the poor aren't really poor, many of those items have been around long enough that pre-owned units are often readily available at thrift stores and garage sales at greatly reduced prices. For example, among the items that are often listed as "proof" that the poor aren't really poor are refrigerators, color TVs, and air conditioning units.

Although not the only proponent of this argument, the batshit Heritage Foundation is currently the "think tank" that regularly conducts the studies that promote poverty denialism"


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What does /leftypol/ think about gun control?

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Is he the modern day Lenin? Is he going to lead us to glorious Revolution? Is he, you could say "Our guy"?

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Anyone got good pics of Alunya? Preferably vectors or pics without backgrounds

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at which point is it rigged?

I have read many documents which lead me to believe the stock market MAY be hoaxed. I don't mean it in a Negative way, it's good for the Investors but not for everyone else, so, it's just a"tool",for a certain group.

I am thinking this because the elites, very correctly so, wouldn't create a system which relies on mere luck, on gambling!to maintain their power.

My questions is;at what specific point does one have enough money he enters the Hoax?

I think once you reach X amount,banks will just make sure you always win,you continue investing, benefitting people richer than you..but of course your life is the one who's improvement you feel.

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"FBI honors the Rev. Martin L. King Jr. and his incredible career fighting for civil rights"


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I want /r/socialism to put some respek on leftypol's name

I ain't gonna say it no mo'.

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Bookchin Book Dump

What's up you meme loving fucks?

If you've ever looked up Bookchin on Amazon, you will notice that his works are exorbitantly expensive. This is because they are out of print, sadly. So I've uploaded some copies for you here. I have more, but this is a good start.

"The Murray Bookchin Reader" is an introductory book, where the key concepts are explained and then excerpts from Bookchin's texts are used. The book was put together by Bookchin's widow and gomrade for decades, Janet Biehl:


"The Next Revolution" is the most recent book to come out on Bookchin, and it has some unreleased essays in it. For the most part, it focuses on his most developed politics. It has some scathing criticisms of both the left and identity politics:


"Remaking Society" is an introductory work, as well as an overview of Bookchin's ideas. It's a good read, but remember its a condensed version of some of the ideas in his more complex books:


"The Philosophy of Social Ecology" is a text explaining bookchin's philosophy of dialectical naturalism (i.e. the philosophical underpinning of social ecology):


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Has anyone ever actually gained access to this place? Are they for real Pol Pot apologists? Was Brother Number One right after all?

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Redpill me on Kulaks… are they bad? did they deserve it?

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Reddit Drama General

We do not need the catalog get flooded with different aspects of the same topic that is the current reddit drama.

Sage and redirect any discussions to this thread. Do not open any more reddit drama related threads.


- Catgrill Drawfriend ban (claimed to be lifted)

- Moderator actions ( and subreddit rules in general

- Raid threats and accusations

- Identity politics and their administrative silencing through slander

- other

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Lets play a game on the 20th

It'll be a drinking party.

What we'll do is one of us will make a thread and we'll have to take a drink every time we find a social media post that states America is under fascism now.

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>preparing for Communism and chill

>"Everyone will have oats aplenty!"

>a year into Communism and chill

>"Oats will be achieved when all bourgeois elements are removed"

>ten years into Communism and chill

>"Oats are poison, eat this shredded cardboard instead"

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Liberal columnist suggests running Beyonce, Matt Damon, and other hollywood celebrities against Trump in 2020.


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The Lack of Coherent Ideology on the Left

"The commodity has now colonized every aspect of life, rendering what was once a capitalist economy into a capitalist culture. It has produced literally a “marketplace of ideas,” in which the coin for exchanging inchoate notions and intuitions is validated by the academy, the corrupter par excellence of the “best and brightest” in modern society and the eviscerator of all that is coherent and clearly delineable. Indeed, never has “high culture,” once guarded by academic mandarins, been so scandalously debased by academic presses that have become the pornographers of ideology.

Bourgeois society qua culture, especially its academic purveyors, abhors a principled stand, particularly a combative one that is prepared to clearly articulate a body of coherent principles and thrust it into opposition against the capitalist system as a whole. Theoretically and practically, serious opposition takes its point of departure from the need to understand the logic of an ideology, not its euphemistic metaphors and drifting inconsistencies. Capitalism has nothing to fear from an ecological, feminist, anarchist, or socialist hash of hazy ideas (often fatuously justified as “pluralistic” or “relativistic”) that leaves its social premises untouched. It is all the better for the prevailing order that reason be denounced as “logocentrism,” that bourgeois social relations be concealed under the rubric of “industrial society,” that the social need for an oppositional movement be brushed aside in favor of a personal need for spiritual redemption, that the political be reduced to the personal, that the project of social revolution be erased by hopeless communitarian endeavors to create “alternative” enterprises." - Bookchin "Social Ecology in a Period of Reaction" http://social-ecology.org/wp/1995/08/theses-on-social-ecology-in-a-period-of-reaction/

Picture typifies this sentiment on the left. Ideology is like personal garment to the contemporary left, rather than a principled stance.

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Why is there no Marxist-Leninist flag? Why the fuck do I have to post under a fucking tank or Stalin's mustache? That's bloody ridiculous considering this board unironically provides Anarcho-Transhumanism and Anarcho-Primitivism flags and similar shit yet the most successful socialist ideology is not featured. Why? I thought we are non-sectarian.

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Which feminist wave was best wave? Second wave feminism is my personal favorite since it was the most class conscious.

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.>Participatory Economics

Surely none of you guys fell for this meme right?

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The New Dog Whistles

> Hello, fellow leftists! Don't you think immigrants are the worst? I mean, they're nothing but niggers and muds- I mean lumpens and scabs. Wouldn't it be better if we kept communism exclusively for the white ra- I mean native workers? Praise (National) Socialism.

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How many here are actively engaged in revolutionary activities.

What are you doing?

How do you intend for it to progress?

Where do you see it ending up?

Hardmode: Shitposting is not a revolutionary activity

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We need more people in https://www.reddit.com/r/leftypolitics! Join the party!

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why are right wingers too stupid to understand everything is corporatism and they have been defending it this whole time?

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Why do you seek to do the devil's work and destroy religion?

The Lord is merciful in his work and yet you seek to steal the bread of our soul. I cannot understand why you would want a world of blind hedonism, subjective purpose, and Luciferian practices.

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Otto Weininger

What was his problem?

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>Tiny country

>Very corrupt monarchy

>Widespread poverty

>Population is only a little more than a million people

Why don't we all just flood to Swaziland and start teaching the population about our revolutionary ideals and spark a revolution?

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Best of /leftypol/ thread

Starting with this fresh OC taken from >>1240569

Post the best screengrabs you have comrades

if anyone has that thread compilation of the anon who had a poster war with libs at their university that would be very much appreciated

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What does leftypol think of Filippo Tommaso Marinetti and Futurism?

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What did he mean by this?

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Liberals will keep focusing on dumb shit while the Nazis continue to take over the West. Good lord.

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In the 60s radical leftists committed acts of terror and kidnapped rich heiresses because of their disgust with the Vietnam war and capitalism.

In the modern day leftists tell me to check my muh privilege, say Islam is a progressive religion, call the Soviet Union a white cishet patriarchal imperial power and lobby so that corrupt money hungry plastic surgeons can cut the penises off of the mentally disturbed.

What happened 2 u guyz?

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Spook Test

/leftypol/ Help, I'm too individualist on my political compass test. Spook me.

Post your Political Compass Propaganda here.


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Explain yourselves mods.

Was not ban worthy.

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ITT Leftist writers with an easy to access, clear and concise writing style.

Ramblers and euphemisers need not apply.

Being vague is tantamount to being a liar.


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8 men own as much as half of all humans

>The gap between the super-rich and the poorest half of the global population is starker than previously thought, with just eight men, from Bill Gates to Michael Bloomberg, owning as much wealth as 3.6 billion people, according to an analysis by Oxfam released Monday.


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Official FUCK YOU LEFTYPOL thread

Post ITT to get unbanned from reddit. Make sure to say extra-mean things or you won't get unbanned.

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should all idpollers get gulag?

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Hijab as political resistance


Is the hijab a garment of organic Third World resistance towards the political and cultural hegemony of western imperialism? I think it is. First, it destroys the idea Islam is inherently patriarchal, as the hijab is used to guard the internal beauty of women from corrupting influences which prioritize the body before the mind. Second, we know the hijab is threatening to western dominance and capitalism, as the French policy of de-veiling Algerian women during the time of colonialism shows. Third, the hijab allows for Muslim women to express their sexuality on their terms. In other words, it guards the mind as much as it guards the body from corrupting influences (such as consumer culture and other forms of capitalist brainwashing).

It has huge potential to serve revolutionary aims. Thoughts?

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Why does /leftypol/ reject the idea that gender, religion and race can and do have a huge effect on your social standing, everything from the education you get to the kind of jobs you can get?

Why does /leftypol/ dismiss the legitimate oppression minorities face as "FUCK IDPOL" but is more than willing to engage and entertain their dimwitted opinions like "KILL ALL NIGGERS" and "MUH fun" as "real world concerns"?

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Which forms of private property are the most pernicious?

For me, I can't decide between lending at interest and land rent.

The entire economy is based on interest and yet for the average person rent is usually their greatest expense

But then again Labour value extraction kind of underpins the whole thing.

What do you think?

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Modern Multiculturalism and Diversity Are Identical to the Colonial Era

/pol/ favorite intellectual pandering to their sensitivities yet again.


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If Marx and Engels' racism and sexism was merely a product of their time and can be discarded, is your anti racism and feminism merely a product of your time as well, and will be just as easily discarded in the future as well?

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right wing cringe thread

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Is he, dare I say it, /ourguy/?

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bang bang bang

How many of you own guns and go to the range on a regular basis?

I am looking to purchase a firearm when I have some more money, possibly either a pistol or rifle but I'm leaning toward a pistol at the moment.

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>Name dropped by an Academic at a major conference

>People all over are starting to talk about identity politics from the far left stance, even saw a guardian article or 2 about it

>reddit in a mess, predictably, due to idpol itself

>4pol starting to experience the fractures associated with their own idpol and daddy Trumps obvious betrayals.

Are we finally coming buckos? How do we prepare?

I really think right now is the prime time to form ourselves into some form of distinctive movement.. say with a manifesto or something like that, one that is normy friendly but still holds to the key tenets of the left and seeks to bring about communism unashamedly.

Come with me lads, lets make 2017 the year the far the left rose again.

We have mostly lost the central planners, then we had to face the idpol, now they too are dying. Now it is our turn, the workplace democracy left, to ascend to our rightful place

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>he talks to the working man as if they were an academic who had the time to study leftist ideologies

This makes me cringe every time. What words do you use when talking to non leftists? Even explaining the difference between private and personal prosperity sounds off putting in my option let alone some autismo starting a sentence with "the bourgeoisie."

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Brocialism and Identity Politics

I'm having an internal conflict, /leftypol/. I've considered myself a feminist and an anti-racist for as long as I've been in politics. Women's and LGBT+ are very important to me, abortion, marriage equality, etc. At the same time however I consider myself opposed to Identity politics, electing a female to oppress the proles instead of a man, White people are muh privileged even if they are poor,etc. Because of this I feel turned off to both sides of the argument, both the Brocialists and the "IdPol" Socialists. Is it at all possible to be in the middle? Could you guys give me objective arguments from both sides? For and against Intersectionality, Class Essentialism, Etc

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Is cooperative property in a coop still private property?

Is cooperative property in a coop still private property? why or why not?

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/pol/ Debunking OC Thread

post your OC

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>tfw no friends to start a counterfeiting gang

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Which flag will make my posts seem smart? Which tendency has read the most theory on average?

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>He doesn't accept the greatness of the no. 1 entryist of all time and profound theorist of Dengism with British characteristics

Who /blair/ here?

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How to not hate rightwingers

In order to get people over to our side one can't throw contempt and insults at them.

But my God, they make it so hard. They're the most hateful, self-serving and idiotic bunch there is. They leave me wanting to personally strangle each one of them.

What do?

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What if you had a decentralized commune that slowly got larger until it made the existing state irrelevant

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economic planning

I'm a market socialist, give me some books on economic planning.

Texts or your own opinions are welcome as well.

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Hey leftypol,

Do you have any books on economic planning that I could read?

I've read Towards a New Socialism and Parecon.

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Discussion about:

Ideal political system/society

How could it be maintained?

What challenges would it face?

How said challenges could be overcome?

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Spreading more knowledge to 4pol


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TFW when you attend a "mixer for Bernie supporters" and it turns out to be a fundraiser for the Green Party with no music, barely any alcohol or snacks, and a bunch of candidates/drunk activists yelling at 125 very bored people in a cramped recording studio for talking to each other so they could corral everyone into a tiny room and continue to lecture about why the Greens will take over Los Angeles.

WTF did they charge us 15 bucks a ticket for? If an events at 8-12 on a Saturday, I expect to fucking be drinking and socializing.

They said it was going to be a party, not a post-Jill circlejerk. People slowly trickled out after 30 minutes of this shit.

It's going to be a long few years

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Freedom & Democracy - Live Stream w/ Wolff, Snowden, Jeremy Scahill, and others

Full list of people:

Edward Snowden

Jeremy Scahill

Jürgen Todenhöfer

Paul Jay

Richard Wolff

Srecko Horvat

>At the end of the Second World War a new era of globalization of capital and production began that continues on today and is enforced through manifold free trade agreements. Another turning point was 9/11. Since then, an increased military presence and an expanding security apparatus is leading to more surveillance and violence in the name of national security.

>In addition, the disparity between rich and poor is growing ever larger and global society is experiencing the increasing regression of stability and civil rights. The current wars in the Middle East, the possible ignition of a new Cold War, terrorism and surveillance, financial crises, poverty as well as the flight of refugees or environmental catastrophe are all unfortunate and disastrous signs of our time.

>Are these events interconnected? Can we see a pattern? Are they taken out of context or completely ignored? We will speak with international experts about supposed structures and connections to find out if and how we can make a change for the better of all. LIVE IN MUNICH. On the 15th of JANUARY, 2017.

Our Topics:

Privacy, civil rights and mass surveillance

Western foreign policy and Germany’s role

US foreign policy and the military industrial complex

Freedom and democracy in the current economic system

Function and role of independent and mainstream media

Development, possibilities and urgency of political activism and grassroots movements

Here's the link to the stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1UkGRkcynE

Enjoy comrades!

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Why Christopher Hitchens quit being a Socialist

>"You can’t lie to the young. You must not bullshit the young. It’s an absolute principle. These people were asking me questions, 'Seriously what should I do with my life? Should I commit to socialism or not?' I reviewed it. Is there now an international working class movement linked at the point of production, internationalist that could replace capitalism as was once thought possible. No. There isn't. Is it in long term decline that idea? Yes. Is it coming back? I don't think so. Is there an ideology at least, without anchorage in a material class movement, that could at least say it was a critique of capitalism that could transcend it? Not known to me, no. And one's I've seen on offer, not very persuasive. At that point it seemed meaningless to go on calling myself a socialist."

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Daily reminder that pornography produced under capitalism is bad and that you should feel bad for watching it.

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Why don't you acknowledge Jews as your real ennemies even though they are at the head of almost every banks and industries ? Just because Fascists hate them too ?

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Is ISIS a far left group?

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I never realized the Julius Caesar was a fucking hero of the proletariat


He should have slaughtered every last patrician and put that piece of shit siceros head on a spike

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What are your personal positions?

I'm not too into politics, when I was introduced to it I leaned ( and still do ) towards libertarianism. I don't like the thought of abortion, but I think that, even though I personally dislike it, people should be able to do so. Just as I'm not fond of the meat industry, but allow people to eat meat. I just don't want to be forced to financially back up things I find morally apprehending, like the subsidization of wheat for the meat industry, libertarianism seemed to be compatible with that.

I'm not a big fan of the EU, I think it's a neo-imperialistic union of elites that wish to dominate Europe through federalizing it, kind of like how russia has republics, but there is still a tyrant ruling it all. I'm quite fond of the thought of regionalism.

When it comes to taxes, I am against an income tax, and for a networth tax. A tax that would cap peoples' wealth at a certain point. I don't think you should be able to own more than tens of millions. My father is a small business owner, he has three employees and barely gets by, his salary is what's left over, which, for the last half a decade since he opened up, is less than minimum wage. One of these employees got pregnant and went on paid maternity leave, but after that she claimed to be emotionally distraught by the experience she had, so months went by ontop of the maternity leave, and my father is not in immense debt, what are your thoughts on this situation?

But when I think of communism, the idea privatization does not exist, that scared the shit out of me. I'm not fond of the thought because I am so anti-social that even picking up the phone freaks me out, and the thought of not having a place that assures me, by law, of being alone, startles me.

I also don't really get the whole "wasn't real communism" argument. The times that I've been here, I've seen you guys supporting different countries, but I also hear others call them out for "not being socialist/communist", what's the deal with that? And as an extension to that question, do you really think communism is a viable system, if it seems that every nation that has tried it has never succeeded in becoming socialist/communist?

As a continuation, what countries ( recognized & unrecognized ) do you support? Do you support China, even though they don't seem to hold on to maoism too much? Do you support Venezuela? Cuba? Russia? N. Korea? Kurds or Syria? Are you pro or anti Israel? Pro or anti Palestine?

Next thought would be that I've come to think that modern feminism is more about equality when beneficial than true equality, so I'm quite critical of that. What are your thoughts on this?

What are your opinions on my views?

What are your thoughts on Black Lives Matter, and what are your thoughts on white muh privilege? Are you 'anti-white'? What is your opinion on religions, specifically the abrahamic ones?

Sorry for the long wall of text, I'm truly curious, thanks if you actually read through all of it.

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If you think of the United States political map, the coastal states are the buttcheeks and the middle of it is a wide, gaping butthole. Sure, the butthole might not look or smell so good, but you need it, or where else are you going to get all the shit out? And the cheeks, well, they might be where the party's at. but sometimes they think supporting the butthole excuses itself from getting smeared with shit from time to time. Everyone starts pointing out each other's shit, but no one's willing to acknowledge that there's shit everywhere! But if the working people of the coasts and the middle worked together, to squeeze the rectum of this great nation at the proper moment and get rid of the crap driving us crazy, anything is possible!

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Samsung's Lee faces arrest on suspicion of bribery

Special counsel says its decision based on justice, not Samsung’s power in South Korean economy

After days of review, a special investigation team sought an arrest warrant for Samsung heir apparent Lee Jae-yong on Monday, initiating a long and high profile legal battle over his alleged shady business exchanges with President Park Geun-hye and her longtime friend Choi Soon-sil.

The team, led by Special Counsel Park Young-soo, said it has requested a local court issue the warrant for Lee, the de facto leader of the nation’s largest conglomerate, on suspicion of providing financial assistance worth 43 billion won ($36.4 million) to Choi and her family in exchange for business favors, committing perjury at the parliament and misappropriating corporate funds.

Lee is the first chaebol owner the counsel has sought an arrest warrant for over alleged involvement in the scandal. He is also the first head of Samsung to face a potential arrest warrant in the conglomerate’s 79-year history. The team will continue to investigate other Samsung executives implicated in the scandal, without seeking arrest warrants, said Lee Kyu-cheol, spokesman for the special counsel. They will also summon Park’s former Chief of Staff Kim Ki-choon and Culture Minister Cho Yoon-sun for questioning Tuesday morning, making a step forward before interrogating the incumbent president currently undergoing an impeachment trial.

“We made the decision after serious consideration,” said Lee. “By seeking the warrant, we have reached a conclusion that establishing justice is more important than (considering) the nation’s economic situation,” said Lee, referring to opposition from business circles that has speculated as to the potential consequences of creating a leadership vacuum in Samsung, the world’s largest smartphone and chipmaker which generates sales amounting to 300 trillion won a year.

In a letter to the court, the counsel has implicated Choi as the beneficiary of Samsung’s financial assistance, not President Park.

But the team has reportedly nearly completed proving that Choi and Park are in the same boat in sharing the profits from financial support, constructing a legal base to indict the president.


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Open-Ended Syria Thread

Let's talk about the Syrian conflict; its context, participants and their motives, major events, media coverage, and trustworthy sources.

I’ll try to condense my interpretation of it to get us started:

I'm of the opinion the Syrian conflict, at its core, is a proxy war over the paths of a proposed natural gas pipeline and subsequently, which country/“world” (Saudi Arabia/First World or Iran/Second World) should receive the economic and hegemonic benefits a pipeline brings, complicated by another faction, Daesh/ISIL, is also trying to carve out a caliphate in the region.

Saudi Arabia and Iran are locked in a cold war to be the dominant regional power. This is escalated by the American/First World-backing of Saudi Arabia and the Russian/Second World-backing of Iran. Assad rejected the Qatar-Turkey pipeline (benefiting KSA), citing the protection of Russia’s economy as his motive. Russia is Europe’s main supplier of natural gas. The Western-allied Saudi Arabia would surely seek to kneecap Russia’s economy by flooding the market and stealing consumers.

Saudi Arabia and its allies saw the opening for regime change during the initial protests in Syria and became involved in hopes to install a pro-Saudi puppet. Iran and its allies, understanding the stakes, likewise became involved to protect their outpost.

Thus the escalation of what should have been an internal affair by outside powers competing for dominance and private ownership of natural resources.

Thoughts? Additions? Disagreements? Questions? Post ‘em.

(I'm going to be blunt: the “Middle East”, as a whole, has been weighing heavily on my mind lately and I'm lonely and want to discuss. That’s not a pass for shitposting, however. High-quality posts only.)

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What happened to him, lads? When I search on youtube three profiles come up with nothing really current on it. Did he die and his mom deleted his youtube channel in order to clean up his public image; or, did he, as he once put it, "live long enough to become a normie"

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I am going to vote for the AFD in the upcoming German election.

Convince me to not do that.

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What's their ennedgaem?

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Leaked FBI Leaders Home Addresses!!!

Leaked FBI Leaders Home Addresses!!!

James Comey - FBI Director

1762 Kirby Lane

McLean, VA 22101

(703) 442-4760

Gordon D Bitko

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FUCK YOU LEFTYPOL. WE COULD'VE CHANGED R/SOCIALISM BUT YOU RUINED IT!!! now I got banned from r/fullcommunism, and they're making me remove my signature from the petition you TAINTED! After that now they're telling me to make fun of /leftypol/ or I will stay banned, so here it goes: FUCK YOU LEFTYPOL YOU SEXIST PIECES OF SHIT.

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#Pissgate Update

An unverified intel dossier claiming that the Russian government has collected material they could use to blackmail President-elect Donald Trump “feels real,” according to former CIA officer John Sipher.

“I do think that information is completely unvalidated and unvetted information that the public has no way of finding out whether it is credible or not,” he told CNN’s Michael Smerconish on Saturday.

“However, the FBI and federal intelligence services can look at that information, cross-reference it, interview people, find out who the sources are, and find out what that information is,” he continued.

Sipher, who was stationed in Moscow in the 1990s, said that the tactics used in the dossier were not out of the realm of plausibility.

“Those of us who have lived and worked in Russia, and been under the thumb of Russian services — this isn’t just gossip, this information sounds very real to people who have been there. This is exactly how the Russians operate.”

“Where that salacious stuff about Mr. Trump is true or not — I doubt it, there is no way knowing without knowing who those sources are — but the feel of this is real. This is how the Russians operate… They are the best in the world at this kind of compromising information.”


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I want communism but only for white people. What does that make me? I'll still fight with you guys to overthrow the capitalists but I think society works better when it's racially homogenous. Why won't you accept this? Why do we have to have this infighting? We all want the same thing right? Overthrow the capitalists, gain control of the means of production, dictatorship of the proletariat, etc. so why does it bother you that I cling to such racial views?

I don't hate non-whites I think comminism will work better for them in their own countries with their own people. Multiracial and multicultural societies create conflict within the working class and really always lead to societal instability.

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Apparently /r/fullcommunism wants to raid you

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How do we make Luxury Robot Communism a thing? How could we force the state and industry to make it happen?

We could devote our lives to art and knowledge while the robots keep the grunt work humming. Everyone would have to contribute a few hours a week to civil service, but that's about it.

Would we start with Robot Socialism and evolve from there?

How can technology be used to help us all? Climate change. 3D Printed houses? Healthy, cheap food? Unlimited education?

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How does Leftypol justifiy the fact that despite Communisms best efforts to create an automated utopia, they still fell behind perhaps dramatically so in comparison to the West.

East Germany for example, when it collapsed and united, was roughly 30 years behind the West and the economic strains on modernizing it continued well into the 21st century.

What went wrong? Why did the West outproduce and create better living standards than the USSR?

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Sup /leftypol/?

Did you know the PKK has a Youtube channel, where they post pictures of things they do (attacks, performances, lectures, etc.)?


fast forward to 1:45 to see Turkish military can into space :^)

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Comrade Roo has spoken

/leftypol/ a source of degenerate pornography


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can someone with much money like a billionaire crash the market all by himself?


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Music thread


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Is human nature real?

Is human nature real?

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would you cross the atlantic for classical liberalism? or stay in Europe and wait 200 years for communism to be invented?

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When you tell someone that the communism of the USSR was bad they say it wasn't real communism and actually state capitalism because it was basically just the state owning capital (as opposed to capitalists in capitalism and the workforce in marxism)

My question is, how is it possible for true communism to exist then? How is it possible to have a system like pic related and make it voluntary? I get that the USSR got by (barely) due to making this system compulsory, but how would it work when it strictly goes against human nature?

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/r/Socialism mods are doing nothing in response to a huge petition

People got together and demanded they quit. They won't.