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New Moderation Thread

This thread is for the discussion of bans, (bump)locks and generally anything pertaining to the moderation of the board. The last thread is a little crowded with things from last year, so I think it's time for a new, fresher thread.

https://8ch.net/log.php?board=leftypol

https://8ch.net/bans.html

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/leftypol/ reading list

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/index.htm

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/index.htm

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/wage-labour/index.htm

^^^Absolute beginner material^^^

More Marx and Engels:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/index.htm

Lenin

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/

Other Selected Marxists

https://www.marxists.org/archive/selected-marxists.htm

Classical Works Recommended To High-Ranking Cadres

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-8/mswv8_56.htm

Many important books can be found on libgen:

http://gen.lib.rus.ec/

Libcom is run by a liberal retard, but you can search it for some good books/documents:

https://libcom.org/library

Other links:

https://archive.is/L8uFD

Various assortment of historical and biographical works.

https://archive.org/search.php?query=uploader%3A%22kocotosi%40gmail.com%22&sort=-publicdate

Original post content:

>Honeybees make decisions collectively–and democratically. Every year, faced with the life-or-death problem of choosing and traveling to a new home, honeybees stake everything on a process that includes collective fact-finding, vigorous debate, and consensus building. In fact, as world-renowned animal behaviorist Thomas Seeley reveals, these incredible insects have much to teach us when it comes to collective wisdom and effective decision making. A remarkable and richly illustrated account of scientific discovery, Honeybee Democracy brings together, for the first time, decades of Seeley's pioneering research to tell the amazing story of house hunting and democratic debate among the honeybees.

>In the late spring and early summer, as a bee colony becomes overcrowded, a third of the hive stays behind and rears a new queen, while a swarm of thousands departs with the old queen to produce a daughter colony. Seeley describes how these bees evaluate potential nest sites, advertise their discoveries to one another, engage in open deliberation, choose a final site, and navigate together–as a swirling cloud of bees–to their new home. Seeley investigates how evolution has honed the decision-making methods of honeybees over millions of years, and he considers similarities between the ways that bee swarms and primate brains process information. He concludes that what works well for bees can also work well for people: any decision-making group should consist of individuals with shared interests and mutual respect, a leader's influence should be minimized, debate should be relied upon, diverse solutions should be sought, and the majority should be counted on for a dependable resolution.

>An impressive exploration of animal behavior, Honeybee Democracy shows that decision-making groups, whether honeybee or human, can be smarter than even the smartest individuals in them.

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FAQ and Rules

Backup boards:

https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/

http://www.getchan.net/

Other boards:

>>>/anarcho/

>>>/marx/

>>>/freedu/

>>>/leftyweebpol/

>>>/gnussr/

>>>/leftpol/

Groups:

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/leftypol

http://qchat.rizon.net/?channels=leftypol

Leftybooru:

http://lefty.booru.org/

/leftypol/'s magazine:

http://bunkermag.org/

http://spectrerouge.com/

FAQ:

>How can you call yourselves leftist politically incorrect?

/leftypol/ posters are allowed to voice opinions that offend liberals, SJWs, and so on. All sects on the left are allowed to post on /leftypol/, leading to plenty of fighting and shitflinging between leftists, which other forums might ban. However, this was only a minor consideration in the naming of /leftypol/. Since the concept is simply a leftist version of /pol/, the entire name of /pol/ was retained.

>I'm not a leftist can I post here?

Non-leftists can come here to ask questions. Board moderation here is more focused on maintaining a good board index, so non-leftists have to be on better behavior as OP than they do as participants in someone else's thread. If you aren't b8ing or shitposting, your thread is likely to stay up.

>Are you liberals? Are you SJWs? Do you like Clinton? Are you all Zionists???

No liberals here. We hate the Democrat party.

As for Israel, leftism is anti-Zionist. It is not anti-Jew. Unlike /pol/, /leftypol/ fully supports Palestinians, and doesn't think they're "mudslimes."

Pretending to be an SJW or Zionist will very likely get you banned.

>Why did you leave /pol/ and why does this board exist?

/leftypol/ exists to help the 8chan community focus on leftist topics without being slid or flooded to death.

>Do you support gun control?

While posters on /leftypol/ have varying stances on gun control (training requirements, mental health checks, etc.), they are overwhelmingly in favor of arming the proletariat.

>Do you support "national" socialism?

No.

RULES:

Don't:

-spam

-post cuckshit, "commies BTFO," or any of that kind of shit

-post any porn depicting underage (including drawings)

-deny the problems of climate change or imperialism

-attempt to cloak reactionary politics in left-wing rhetoric (Strasserism, "Nazbol" Strasserism, National "Socialism," Zionism, "Die cis scum"/"Kill all white men" SJW shit)

-voice support for NATO intervention, or explicitly state that you support imperialism in any context

-incite specific acts of terrorism or similar acts (use your head, don't act like a fed)

Do:

-be respectful, ask questions, and know your place if you're a reactionary

-feel free to flame, shitpost, and be sectarian if you are a leftist (just keep it somewhat within reason)

mod action log:

https://8ch.net/log.php?board=leftypol

https://8ch.net/bans.html

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Alabama Abortion Law

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgw4X7Dw_3k

Do people think that when you have an abortion you just take a pill and some cells in your body just go away?

I am a leftists but I still value human life, what is antileftist about not ripping humans limb from limb? Seems like since I care about women's rights i should want women not to be killed like this

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Why isn't Norway, a nation with nationalized oil, getting the same treatment as Venezuela or Iran? why don't we hear on cable news how the Norwegian prime minister is a baby-eating tyrant, whose country needs to be liberated?

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Anime is the opiate of the masses and a by-product of japanese post-war hypercapitalism

Change my mind

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/ourguy/ or narc?

Bob Black is one of the fathers of post-leftist thought, and IMHO is a living legend in the American Leftist tradition. But he is certainly not without controversy…. mainly due to how he called out Bookchinites and SJWs.

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/prc/ - People's Republic of China general

To reduce clutter and low-quality threads about China I'm going to start anchoring threads and redirecting to here instead. If the subject is important enough to warrant a separate thread (let's say, a thread discussing maoism) then feel free to do so.

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Alt-right darling Lauren Southern releases documentary "Borderless"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMoG88mQEME

Her conclusion? @ 1:24:29

>A story of a borderless Europe is one where nobody wins.

Nowhere in the documentary does she mention the cause of this refugee crisis, namely the American-led toppling of the Libyan government and the American-Saudi-Israeli-Turkish coalition that funded and supported ISIS and other "moderate rebels" in their war against the Syrian government (which they're losing now thanks to Russian intervention).

Also her twitter feed is still supportive of Donald Trump.

https://twitter.com/Lauren_Southern

To put it in a nutshell, her documentary is a contextless pandering to the alt-right, jingoistic American "patriots" and conservatives, MAGAtards, the European far right and Israelis, to present an argument to Europeans and Americans that militarized border walls good, refugees bad, it's more humanitarian to keep refugees out, and America/NATO dindu nuffin in North Africa and the Middle East.

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Fash won the Indian elections

>TFW all the workers everywhere in the world are class cuck pieces of shit

>TFW socialist parties are losing everywhere

>TFW the future has never been bleaker

Know what, fuck all these fucking class cucks, the 21st Century proletariat are pathetic, they’re disgusting, I would unironically rather end the human race in nuclear fire, I’d do it happily, than submit to this fate where the proles happily cuck themselves forever.

Posadist Gang FTW, fuck the 21st Century proles, disgusting class cuck motherfuckers

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/leftytrash/: Once More

ITT: movies, anime, music, feels, e-celebs, internet drama, fetishes, shitposting, etc.

This is a voluntary thread that users can choose to post in, if… I forgot the rest of whatever the old OP was. Honestly, I just wanted to bring this old thread back.

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/pol/ here

can somebody explain how unironic national bolshevism is a bad thing?

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/math/

hey guys, does anyone have any good pdfs/online resource recommendations to brush up on math (in prep for re-reading cockshott, shaikh, etc.) Only have a few hours free time after work each day and need help with:

Geometry//Trig

Calculus (single & multi)

Linear Algebra

Probability theory / statistics including stochastic theories

-any other advanced math and theories i need for cockshottism

thanks,

brainletanon

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"Spencer rapone" type cases

What are other cases of censorship of the left? I know a couple of leftist YouTubers got censored like batko but I don't know any other sphere where this has happened

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>Start browsing leftypol

>Get a new perspective on things

>No longer a racist /pol/tard

>Lose my interracial cuck fetish because the /pol/tard tier racism makes no sense now.

Thanks guys.

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Union salting

How well known is the practice of union salting?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salting_(union_organizing)

Do you think this is the best way to rebuild a labor movement? Or are there more effective ways?

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News 5/24/19

Theresa May quits: UK set for new PM by end of July

Theresa May has said she will quit as Conservative leader on 7 June, paving the way for a contest to decide a new prime minister.In an emotional statement, she said she had done her best to deliver Brexit and it was a matter of "deep regret" that she had been unable to do so.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48395905

North Korea warns no more talks until US backs off ‘impossible demands’

Negotiations between the United States and North Korea over the latter’s nuclear program will not resume until the US administration backs off from what Pyongyang has characterized as a unilateral demand that it disarm.

https://www.rt.com/news/460182-north-korea-impossible-demands/

UK negotiates loophole in Saudi export ban to sell planes for use in Yemen

The UK government has negotiated a loophole in a German arms export ban to Saudi Arabia that will ensure UK-supplied planes will continue to be used in the war in Yemen, the foreign secretary, Jeremy Hunt, has confirmed.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/may/23/uk-negotiates-loophole-in-saudi-export-ban-to-sell-planes-to-yemen

Amid worsening trade war, Chinese president calls for new “Long March”

With the Trump administration ratcheting up its economic war against China, President Xi Jinping has called for a new “Long March,” saying the country had to prepare for “difficult situations.” Xi’s comments are another indication that any prospect of an agreement to end the escalating trade conflict is remote.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/05/24/chin-m24.html

US to Sell Arab Allies $8B in Arms to 'Deter Iran': Pompeo

A US$8.1 billion dollar arms sale will be offered to Arab allies to "deter" Iranian aggression," Pompeo said Friday, AFP reports.U.S. President Donald Trump is invoking a rare executive provision bypassing congressional review in order to extend a multi-billion dollar arms sale to Saudi Arabia, citing alleged threats from Iran to the kingdom, U.S. Secretary Mike Pompeo confirmed Friday.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/US-to-Sell-Arab-Allies-8B-in-Arms-to-Deter-Iran-Pompeo--20190524-0013.html

Nationalist Activists Harass LGBT Film Fest in Moscow

Pro-Kremlin activists tried to shut down the opening of an LGBT film festival in Moscow on Thursday.Two fringe nationalist groups called the National Liberation Movement (NOD) and SERB harassed attendees and poured ammonia on an employee of the Canadian Embassy in Moscow, organizers said. The two groups are known for attacks on opposition activists and art exhibits.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/05/24/nationalist-activists-harass-lgbt-film-fest-moscow-a65725

Instructions from headquarters: Islamic State's new guerrilla manual

In recent weeks, IS’s al-Naba online newspaper has encouraged followers to adopt guerrilla tactics and published detailed instructions on how to carry out hit-and-run operations.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-security-islamic-state-idUSKCN1SU19J

French police swarm streets after bomb filled with bolts goes off in Lyon

Police and emergency services have been dispatched en masse to the center of Lyon, where a homemade bomb, filled with screws, nuts and bolts, went off, injuring eight people, footage from RT’s video agency Ruptly shows.

https://www.rt.com/news/460212-french-police-lyon-blast/

Botswana Lifts Its Ban On Elephant Hunting

Botswana's government is lifting a ban that protected its elephants from being hunted, part of a series of decisions that could have lasting impacts on the country's conservation efforts.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/23/726349559/botswana-lifts-its-ban-on-elephant-hunting

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ITT: post anything that makes you uncomfortable which is related to the Spectacle, out of control and constantly accelerating neoliberal globalization, culture wars shit, hidden symptoms of imperialism, IdPol (both Left and Right) media self-worship, out or control fandom shit, obesity etc

Basically anything decadent about the Superstructure which has been birthed ffom the more and more unstable superstructure of modern capitalism anything that inspires repulsion at the current system and/or your personal analysis

I'll start with:

Dude going absolutely apeshit crazy over the trailer for the most recent star wars trailer to the point where he achieves an orgasmic state of gnosis

https://youtu.be/0ug2DOoxJ1g

Black Friday footage of near riots, people fighting over commodities, trampling and so on

https://youtu.be/VNEhu7eqyVQ

ttps://youtu.be/_42wssRyCU4

https://youtu.be/pBkGla-sYis

Liberals at a "rally for truth" blaming Russia and Trump for all of America's problems and indulging in anricommunism

https://youtu.be/5qsOiZNEzvs

Man hospitalized due to hyper emotional response to newest avengers film

https://movieweb.com/avengers-endgame-fan-hospitalized-uncontrollable-sobbing/

Peter Roller a Democrat Cops of America antifascist's hour long "research" which he claims proves that the small politically incorrect or "dirtbag left" wing of the Democrat Cops of America is a psyop to destroy it and that cumtown, chapo, and red scare along with r/stupidpol are all in on it

https://web.archive.org/web/20190501165534/https://medium.com/@petersoeller/dirtbags-to-deplorables-35f098aee643

"Fat acceptance" compilation

https://youtu.be/230POS5H9M0

American Fascists doing their retarded version of "direct action" at a drag queen stoeytime hour for children by dressing up as clowns and flying a rainbow flag

https://youtu.be/KhfCxhbzr30

The "Szechuan Sauce" Riots

https://youtu.be/xAF9QrJ1z98

Japanese "Rent a Family" Industry-fake families who exist to fill the gap of both an atomized and lonely populace and a plummeting population in modern day Japan

https://youtu.be/UEhYMirs7fk

First Person Vlog of the Heart Attack Grill, whose entire gimmick is being a restaraunts with such unhealthy food that you might die, basically a monument to the libertarian spook of "muh personal freedom"

https://youtu.be/W5q8RFpkAyM

Vice (I know vice sucks bit this video is good) Documentary on the Rise of Financial Domination as a kink among the wealthy and super wealthy

https://youtu.be/ad6bpsQmV5Q

Filipinos making a meal of "Pagpag" which is a kind of curry and rice meal assembled from food waste from big fast food chains, particularly McDonald's and KFC

https://youtu.be/8SZiGLVhDY0

Poor folks resort to living in graveyards in the Philippines

https://youtu.be/e6gJ3bDDAaE

Videos of guys eating raw meat at,vegan gatherings

https://youtu.be/unnzbghJB28

https://youtu.be/2OYrgGLCd8w

Flat earthers making a comeback

https://youtu.be/m4kM5zwxThE

Measles making a comeback

https://youtu.be/smbwz5zhPYQ

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[<☭>]

/br/ - Brazil Thread - Never lose your faith edition

Loyal to our shitposting tradition, we probably already made it through more than 3000 posts spanning several Brazilian Threads. Here's to many more!

Fio anterior:

>>2793892

Lembrando do nosso board, que algum dia será muito movimentado:

>>>/bantifa/

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anti-idpol = anti-marxist

Just because Stalin hated homosexuals and was a sexist, nationalist bigot doesn't give you the right to do the same. Edgy racists have no place here. DEAL. WITH. IT.

VOL MESSAGE

Edgy racists are not welcome, and idpol is not welcome either.

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/uspg/ - US Politics General

Mandatory containment for: discussing your dogshit election campaigns and candidates.

Voluntary containment: discussing burger-specific things nobody cares about.

Allowed outside this thread: real political developments pertaining to the USA (IE, laws being passed, strikes, wars, etc)

original OP:

The last thread died, long live the new thread.

Midterms rapidly approaching gomrades. With impeachment proceedings likely on the horizon, the next congress will surely be a historic one.

What do you all think will happen? Let's discuss the spectacle of bourgeois liberal democracy in the era of Gronald Grumph.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/senate/

https://www.electionbettingodds.com/

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Need some lefty fiction

Looking for leftist fiction thats not Lê Guin, but preferably sci-fi. Whatcha got robots?

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was she the greatest force of good in the world?

militarily, morally, and ideologically.

the ussr was literally the only force capable of combating capitalism.

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MARK FISHER AND ANTI IDPOL LEFT BTFO BY ANARKIDDIE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-tkwB6NPTc

tldr

>muh russell brand isnt working class this is actually true

>muh mark fisher is such a whiteboi haha

>*mark fisher calls idpol bourgeois* OH COMEON, mark how can you call them bourgeois!

thats basically it. I'm seriously sick of these pro idpol leftists whenever someone makes a valid critique of idpol and intersectionality and the toxic witchhunt atmosphere on the left, they simply laugh it off and say it doesn't exist.

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Ban of Rock and Metal in the USSR

Why did the USSR and the rest of the warsaw pact(idk about central europe, but in my country, the People's Republic of Bulgaria, banned all rock and metal as being "degenerate bourgeois and fascist music") ban rock and metal? How was it a bourgeois influence when the vast majority of rock and metal fans were bourgeois, and a lot rock music had major anti-imperialist or anti-capitalist themes(John Lennon and , as well as the majority of its listeners being working class?

What makes this hypocritical is that at the same time ballet and classical music was kept in high regard, when these arts are to this day just entertainment for decadent and pretentious nobles and the grande bourgeosie, as well as them being patrons of them.

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Fashtag

Fascists/Nazis are trying to make the hashtag into a hate symbol, I've been seeing these images everywhere on /pol/, what do you think about this?

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Soviet military hardware performance

Does anyone knows did Soviet military hardware fared against nato hardware in the field?

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Translation

Translation anon here. So I translate a lot of cyryllic language posts on leftybooru, however since not a lot of people visit that site and because Tomoko-Stalinstache poster suggested it, I'm making a translation thread.

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Gender Crit Containment Bunker

I partook in the general shitting up of the Cockshott thread (sorry about that). Let's discuss it here instead. Who is most materialist, the gender crits or the genderists? Is Cockshott right? What about the CPGB-ML?

Lets keep that shit contained, and try to be nice to eachother. A trans comrade is a comrade even if there is disagreement.

Food for discussion: detransitionist chicks talk about their experiences https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxVmSGTgNxI&t=995s

VOL EDIT: From now on this is the only thread where trans discourse is allowed. Report other threads which bring up the topic.

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/lfg/ - leftist film general

what's the most redpilled Disney movie and why is it Wall-E?

I'll also just make this a general leftist film thread and see how it goes.

anything feature-length and leftist, post it and why it's good.

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Are you in a union?

Do you find it beneficial?

Where do unions fit into the modern capitalist economy?

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money

reminder there is nothing wrong with money.

its efficient to allow people to swap things with each other. swaps always make both people better off.

so long as they are going to be allowed to swap things, people will always develop money so they can do more efficient swaps.

you cant get around this pals.

but you shouldnt want to either because its all completely efficient.

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/Chernobyl/ truth and fiction

With the release of new HBO mini-series 'Chernobyl' there have been a lot of threats on it on /tv/. As expected there have been a lot of anti-Soviet and anti socialist propaganda talking about how Soviets forced thousands of people to work for free and that thousands have perished because of Soviet evilness or incompetence. People also put emphasis on Soviet propaganda completely ignoring the tragedy, but rather focusing on what was happening in US.

On the other hand there are also sources that state that 'only' 40 people had died, that evacuation went smoothly and things were professionally fixed; as much as possibly. There are also sources that state that 25,000 Ukrainian, Byelorussian and Russian victims of Chernobyl were threated in Cuba. What's the truth, thought?

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Lefty hip hop thread

Need to diversify my lefty songs playlist, it's mainly folk right now.

Post your recommendations.

https://youtu.be/5PQrQ4lSEqU

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Marxism-Leninism is the Way

Friendly reminder that the most successful Marxist movement in human history was Marxism-Leninism, known pejoratively as "Stalinism". Friendly Reminder that Marxism-Leninism in its fully developed, "mature" form:

>banned homosexuality

>banned abortion

>encouraged women to have children and stay at home

>purged jews and non-Russian nationals from sensitive state agencies like the NKVD and the foreign office

>promoted Russian history and traditions

>purged managerialists, elites, and corrupt bureaucrats

>encouraged a straight, white, masculine martial ideal for the preservation of the nation

>only allowed healthy, optimistic, socialist realism and not degenerate dadaist/absurdist trash

>promoted socialism in one country, pragmatically recognizing the absurdity of Trotsky's poisonous and delusional internationalism

>routinely deported nationalities that caused troubles, as well as illegal immigrants out of cities (internal passport system ftw)

Any Marxist who does not embrace Marxism-Leninism, which is not only the most successful but also the most internally logical form of Marxism, is a defeatist and a Social Fascist. Modern "Marxists" are nothing but Capitalist spies, boosters, and supporters.

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/LeftyBritPol/ Rock Stein to the Pasty mines edition

May might be the end of May,

Lib Dems on the rise,

Alliance eats the UUP,

Only option left is to liberate Cornwall and have Juche with fish and chips characteristics.

Previous thread; 2876567

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​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​>tfw no anarcho-feminist gf to put a couple of rounds into Lenin with

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bet you never thought of THIS one. what do you have to say to this huge brain?

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Is Anti-Homosexuality ever compatible with Leftism?

As you know, there are TERFS, smurfs and other "allies", but there is also a rising of Economically Left-leaning/Socially Right-Leaning groups (almost like a mixture of Slavoj Zizek and Tucker Carlson). Have you encountered these people? What is the final solution?

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Warsaw Pact General

Was gonna make a USSR general, but it's better to expand a little.

Try and go beyond sharing aesthetic pics and post more informative stuff.

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Convince to me to be left wing?

Why should I be far left as

opposed to being a EBIL NAZI. Prove me wrong.

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Hello Communists

Can you guys explain Communism?

I mean there will always be hierarchies/classes/elitists and exploitation. You have to realize that to some point every society is based on these kinds of things.

I can understand wanting to kill the rich/upper hierarchies, but I do not understand the ideology after it.

(I also am an ebil natziii and would like to be spanked by a ☭TANKIE☭.)

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/marxistpedia/

Get in here.

https://marxistpedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

There's no good hard left wiki. Instead of fixing this problem, we've been sitting on our ass. This site has been a viable candidate for a while now, but because the admin has previously written on it using a slightly spooked "anti-Stalinist" perspective, it has been rejected. That's stupid. We can turn it into whatever we need it to be.

Anyone even remotely knowledgeable should start writing articles. The internet needs a website like this. Write on whatever topic related to Marxism and leftism. Worker cooperatives, cybernetic economic planning, dialectical materialism, maybe even internet drama could have a place on there… Whatever works for you. At the moment I mostly want to get a place like this off the ground.

Some rough guidelines for contributing can be found on https://marxistpedia.org/wiki/Marxistpedia:Guidelines.

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The state = freedom

Reminder that a strong centralised state is needed to break local hierarchies of exploitation. This is how progress happens in history.

The state freed the serfs. Not anarchists.

The state freed the slaves. Not anarchists.

The state passes worker protection laws, is the source of welfare and anti-discrimination, and pushes against corporations and big business to varying extents (they're held back by a lack of centralisation in an era of free trade, which is why states have made less progress recently).

Still you insist the state is your enemy.

If the state disappeared tomorrow we would go back to slavery and feudalism. They would hire armed guards to protect their property and we would be back to square one. Stuff like this doesn't usually bother me but 'anarchists' are so naive that it actually scares me.

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HIV/AIDS created by CIA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Infektion

The source for this being a conspiracy started by the commies is the Mitrokhin Archive. But people already knew about MKNAOMI and Fort Detrick by the time the AIDS scare happened and could have easily guessed. NYC and San Diego were two favorite bioweapon testing areas since the late 40s and onwards which went wrong and resulted in several deaths.

What if the "Operation Infektion" files are a forgery? The Mitrokhin Archive seems to be selectively showing things that make the commies look bad but am I really supposed to believe the disclosures weren't "sanitized" and removed anything like "It was the KGBs belief that The West run by a committee called The 40 who blackmailed pedophiles and marshalled them into the CIA, politics and journalism to maintain control"? You know, factual but anti-western stuff like that?

Ebola appeared during the Cold War too. But HIV/AIDS was particularly odd.

Who was Patient Zero for real? You hear at school "some african who did it with a monkey" and some people say a Canadian guy or a british man before that. Who are some non-CIA mockingbird sources who were actually tracking the spread?

During McCarthyism there was a big thing about homosexuals being a national security risk and a tendency to become double agents. What if this was cooked up as a gay removal weapon in the 50s and leaked out years later. It does affect gay men disproportionately even if that's not PC.

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Meme Idea

I have an idea for a meme comrades, it goes like this: just mention Yuri Gargarin in everything.

Example:

A parkour video

Just comment: that's amazing, but you know what's more amazing? Yuri Gargarin the first man in space he jumped through every obstacle to get through space etc. Then throw in an article about him or an image.

Another example:

A sad post:

That's sad OP, you know what will cheer you up? The fascinating achievement of Yuri Gargarin etc.

This idea sounds a little shitty for me but maybe that's because of my low self esteem, but i'll let you guysbe the judge

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India just re-elected it’s reactionary prime minister. It see like age of reactionaries is about to stay for longer than I anticipated. Thoughts?

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Let's Study Economics With Anwar Shaikh

Shaikh is a Marxist economist who adheres to Marx, Smith, and Ricardo without selectively and arbitrarily abandoning key points of their theories. However, he goes deeper than that by seeking and showing the empirical evidence for each of their theories, and giving mathematical formalization. He also includes some good parts from Keynes and others in macro (with evidence, preventing eclecticism), and every step of the way in his book and lectures he compares the classical theory to modern orthodoxy and heterodox economics, debunking their idealist nonsense. Finally, he does give novel theories as well, with the same empirical backing.

If you have read Capital, I think Shaikh's book+lectures are an excellent supplement and a corrective to any misreadings or confusion you may have. He spent 15 years putting it all together. His comparisons to neo-classical theory are also excellent for helping Marxists learn to parse what the neo-classicals are actually talking about. Cockshott has recommended Shaikh's lectures in the past, and Shaikh is extremely well-versed in the modern Marxist literature (such as Farjoun and Machover, econophysics, etc).

The FULL (30 videos) lecture series can be found here, and they are very entertaining. It is a graduate level course, but if you have read Marx, you will have no problem understanding what he's talking about:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB1uqxcCESK6B1juh_wnKoxftZCcqA1go

His textbook can be downloaded here:

http://booksdescr.org/item/index.php?md5=DD0B27231F6E7CABEF184B616A59DAFE

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Paul Cockshott & Soviet Cybernetics Thread

Once again, it's the thread about computer-aided economic planning and direct democracy and general Cockshott news I guess (old thread: https://8ch.net/leftypol/res/2781898.html).

His latest blogpost: https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/2019/05/14/input-output-or-harmony-planning/

>Kantorovich held that his Objective Valuations, would in the long term converge on labour values, but that in the short run they were useful to ensure that the best use was made of currently available plant and equipment.

>I arrived at the Harmony approach whilst thinking over how to come up with a better algorithm for solving Kantorovich’s problem. As it happens I was in Budapest in 89 looking to find a Hungarian publisher/translator for the work the later became Towards a New Socialism and came across a Hungarian planning text in English and thinking about it whilst in a concert, I thought of an improved algorithm…

Read "Towards a New Socialism" by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell, if you haven't already: ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book

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Julian Assange faces death penalty as Trump's DoJ files 17 new Espionage Act charges

The US still has a good chance to execute him by getting the British Conservatives to extradite him to Sweden which has an unrestrictive extradition treaty with the US. Should that plan somehow fail, they can still push for 170 years in prison (each count can have a maximum of 10 years) by guaranteeing immunity from death penalty.

https://www.rt.com/news/460117-us-charges-julian-assange-classified/

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-23/assange-faces-death-penalty-doj-files-espionage-act-charges

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/julian-assange-wikileaks-new-charges-us

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/23/us/politics/assange-indictment.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/05/23/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-indicted-leaks-conspiracy-manning/1207119001/

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management books

Just finished Bob Nelson: 1501 Ways to Reward Employees - This is an upgrade to 1001 blahblahblah. On the front, it says there are over 1.6 million copies of it in print and it promises "Low-Cost and No-Cost Ideas". I love the promise of no-cost ideas, so I took the pro-active measure of downloading this from a warez site.

<HEALTH & WELLNESS TIPS

<• Pay for gym/health club membership.

Nice one. You know the title says 1501 ways to reward, it doesn't say good ways. Big numbers look more impressive, so the title isn't "Three Nice Ideas"; and if it were, you would just look at the summary at the back of the book without buying, and that's un-American (buying something you have no use for is at the very American end of the spectrum). Speaking of being American, I'm not, so at first I was puzzled by this other thing from the list:

<• Pay a medical bill.

Maybe there's a different and more out-of-the-box way to think about that one, eheheh my American friends?

And now, millenials. Did you know that millenials, also called

<Gen Y, the Nintendo Generation, the Microwave Generation, Generation Next, the Net Generation, Generation Why, the Echo Boomers, and the Trophy Generation

are

<optimistic, hardworking, and high achieving, systematically setting and then achieving goals in rapid sequence

(I suspect the author got paid by word count)? Here is one of the

<HIGH-TECH TIPS

for interacting with millenials in your workforce:

<• Join and use the social networks they use.

That way you can also interact with your workforce on Sunday and holidays, yaaay.

<The Millennials have learned that in times of change one needs a constant source of feedback (think “video game”) to be on the mark and to adjust their performance accordingly.

More inspiring stuff for you kids of the Trophy Generation:

<According to Jeff Ellman, Homescout Realty cofounder and managing broker, the Chicago-based agency was built around Millennials. “I care more about culture than anything,” says Ellman. “We won’t hire someone if they don’t fit. We have a culture-based interview based on the 5 Fs: Fit, Family, Fun, Fortune, and Freedom. If you don’t fit in our culture, this won’t be the right fit for you.”

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So how is leftypol going to react to aftermath of 2020? I believe it will be the same way like on 2016. Meltdowns everywhere.

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Joe Rogan's Voice Recreated Using Artificial Intelligence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWK_iYBl8cA

People talk about drivers being automated, but what about voice actors?

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Americans are less than human

Just a theory I’m working on for why the burgers in Burgerland are such stupid, blubbery, cowardly, worthless piece of shit. I think it all comes down to how this country began, with some smelly inbred fucks coming here and committing genocide against people with infinitely less powerful weaponry. This history of always waging wars with weaker populations led to a civilian populace of blubber cowards and a paper tiger state.

Not to mention 70 fucking years of anti-communist propaganda so thoroughly degraded the American brain that the cheddar-brained fucks are somewhere now somewhere comparable Homo Erectus or Homo Habilis.

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/crisis/ - The Next Crisis General

Thread for the next crisis in global capitalism, monitoring markets, and theoretical discussions.

original post:

How can a lefty exploit this to their advantage? Is it too soon to try? DOW down about 1000 points since Thursday.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2018/02/05/dow-falls-300-points-open-extending-declines-last-week/306400002/

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where did napoleon go wrong and was the french empire a justified entity for the time ?

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Lana Del Rey confirmed comrade?

"In 2006, Moby invites the musician Lizzy Grant, who would go on to be known as Lana Del Rey, to his apartment, which has multiple floors. Grant shakes her head, and tells Moby: ‘Moby, you know you’re the man.’”

When Moby thanks her for the compliment, she clarifies: “You’re a rich Wasp from Connecticut and you live in a five-level penthouse. You’re ‘the man’, as in ‘Stick it to the man.’ As in the person they guillotine in the revolution.”

“I didn’t know if she was insulting me,” says Moby, “but I decided to take it as a compliment.” They don’t have sex. Grant leaves and, alone in his enormous apartment, Moby takes off his shoes and, his feet bare on a Turkish rug, plays a Gymnopédie by Erik Satie on a $20,000 Swiss piano"

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Late Stage Capitalism Dump Thread

Can we have one of these?

I saw a thread on /b2/ telling people to dump their best "clown world honkler-tier images". The thread started off with a bunch of anti-gay, anti-immigration shit.

I flooded the thread with LSC images and basically turned the whole thread around into an anti-Capitalist thread by simply posting these. I'll post them here since i've got nothing better to do.

Reminder that making "clown world" threads on /b2/ and flooding it with LSC pictures is best praxis. You should try it.

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Aussies, now is your time

So Shorten has just lost the election to the liberals. Everyone is saying because he pissed-off Murdoch and was "too left-wing". Your Blairites will now try to use this to gain more power. As a Brit, I've seen this all before, "Red Ed" losing 2015. Except you know what happened in 2015? Corbyn happened. It is time for you lot to do the same. Seize the opportunity to create a genuine Australian left once more. It's right at your fingertips.

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Socialism and the rural poor in the US

Will left-wing economic policies ever become popular again among poor, rural Americans like it sort of was in the early-to-mid 20th century?

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WWIII Thread

Saw the huge thread watching the Market turn into a general thread on the next crisis of capitalism, so I figured we should have a thread on the increasingly aggressive political crisis fomenting between the different imperialist powers and the war-cry they’re shouting against each other and China

Looks like the oncoming crisis of capitalism + environmental crisis might force a third redivision of the world between the imperialist methinks

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https://tiermaker.com/create/historical-and-contemporary-socialists-37154 Make your own tier list of left wing figures

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Quotograph Thread

Tried to start this on leftbook with little success, please share your homemade or collectivized quotographs here

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did Mayor Pete roofy some kid?

BUTTigieg

Is he a rapist or is Hunter Kelly a liar? How do we know if he was telling the truth before when he wrote this, or telling the truth now that he says he was pressured to?

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Why are Redditors such fucking bootlickers? Praising a billionaire for standing in a fucking line? If you think your mum shouldn’t have aborted you you’re fucking lying to yourself

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Curious Socialist SJW

So I'm typically a reddit lurker and one of my friends pointed me this way. I'm curious to hear this subs opinions on a couple things since there seems to be a consensus about some things that I have formed fairly well-educated thoughts on that don't line up with my worldview.

1. This sub and some so-called "bernie bros" hate the idea identity politics because they see class as the uniting struggle. While this is true to some degree there is no doubt that there are intersecting issues (gender, race, sexuality, etc). Why should these be abandoned or ignored? I fully believe ignoring the multifaceted nature of struggle leads to isolating potential comrades

2. Why communism? You don't have to convince me capitalism is bad, I think capitalism corrupts everything. But I'm skeptical about the state running everything too. I tend to think the state should just be a much larger check than it is now. Certain sectors (healthcare) shouldn't be profit motivated but allowing some people to make some more money than others so long as basic needs are covered seems fine. Why can't the CEO of the company make 1/m a year while base employees make 400k?

Hopefully get some well thought out responses to this.

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Could the Iran war break the US Military's back

A lot of Iranian towns are fairly modern and not really a stereotypical dusty hellhole in the middle of bumfuck nowhere. Could it be that the closer appearance will spark some form of an emotional connection in the troops that will start another round of officer fragging?

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News 5/23/19

Theresa May shelves Brexit Withdrawal bill following Cabinet mutiny

Prime Minister Theresa May has shelved plans to publish her Brexit legislation this week after senior members of her Cabinet withdrew their support for her plans.

https://www.businessinsider.com/theresa-may-abandons-brexit-withdrawal-agreement-bill-after-cabinet-mutiny-2019-5

Canada to take back rubbish sent to Philippines

Canada says it will take back tonnes of waste shipped to the Philippines, causing a diplomatic stink.The federal environment minister's announcement came shortly after Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte ordered the rubbish sent back.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48360553

Iran’s supreme leader promises young Iranians will see US & Israel crumble

Israel and US civilization in its present state are doomed and will last no longer than one generation, Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has said, promising Iranian students they would see them crumble.

https://www.rt.com/news/460047-iran-israel-us-demise/

New Zealand media to censor coverage of Christchurch terrorist’s trial

New Zealand’s major media outlets—TVNZ, Stuff, Mediaworks, NZME and Radio NZ—signed an unprecedented agreement on May 1 to self-censor their coverage of the trial of Brenton Tarrant, who is accused of killing 51 people in terrorist attacks on two mosques in Christchurch on March 15

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/05/23/chri-m23.html

Farishta: Outrage over Pakistan child murder

The family of a 10-year-old Pakistani girl who was abducted and murdered have said they were ignored by police when they tried to report her missing.They say police told them the child might have eloped, and they were made to carry out errands for officers

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48364434

UN: Bolivia’s Universal Healthcare Is 'Model For The World'

The World Health Organization (WHO) pointed out that Bolivia’s leftist government has given generous funding and resources to health, ensuring free treatment for all.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/UN-Bolivias-Universal-Healthcare-Is-Model-For-The-World-20190523-0014.html

Pentagon to present plans to send 10,000 troops to Middle East, officials say

The Pentagon is considering a US military request to send 10,000 extra troops to the Gulf to beef up defences against potential Iranian threats, US officials have said.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/22/us-troop-increase-pentagon-middle-east-iran

Moscow concerned over Haftar’s ‘purge’ plan as UN warns Libya is heading towards civil war

A plan by Libyan National Army commander Khalifa Haftar to wipe out “terrorists” has sparked concern in Moscow as it is unclear who is considered a target. It comes as the UN warns that Libya is on the verge of a new civil war.

https://www.rt.com/news/460104-libya-civil-war-moscow-un/

Russia Says Syrian Troops Repelled Three Big Militant Attacks in Syria's Idlib

Syrian government troops on Wednesday morning repelled three big attacks by militants in Syria's Idlib province, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/05/22/russia-says-syrian-troops-repelled-three-big-militant-attacks-in-syrias-idlib-a65695

Ozone layer: Banned CFCs traced to China say scientists

Researchers say that they have pinpointed the major sources of a mysterious recent rise in a dangerous, ozone-destroying chemical.CFC-11 was primarily used for home insulation but global production was due to be phased out in 2010.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-48353341

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The single hottest take in socialist history

Anti-imperialism is identity politics that marginalises the jewish people: discuss.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/05/no-direction-home-tragedy-jewish-left

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Nederdraad

Nederdraad die hopelijk langer leeft dan een week. Het lijkt mijn tijd genoeg om een nieuwe te maken

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Is Marxism/socialism really just about "redistributing people's wealth so they all have the same"?

If not, then how come every political normie seems to have this misconception?

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Xi Dada: Racists are "stupid." NazBols on suicide watch

Based Xi with a message to all the children out there:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-politics-xi-idUSKCN1SL0FJ

>China will only be more open to the world, President Xi Jinping said on Wednesday, as he denounced as “stupid” those who believe in cultural superiority, in his first public address since trade tension with the United States spiked last week.

Chinese civilization was an “open system” that had continuously had exchanges and learned from other cultures, including Buddhism, Marxism and Islam, Xi told the forum.

“Today’s China is not only China’s China. It is Asia’s China and the world’s China. China in the future will take on an even more open stance to embrace the world,” he added.

>“It is stupid to believe that one’s race and civilization are superior to others, and it is disastrous to wilfully reshape or even replace other civilizations.”

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Are bureaucrats/economic managers a class? If not, what is their relation/position vis-a-vis class?

This seems like one of the definitive questions for the Left regarding analysis of the real-existing socialist states.

Historical moments of interest:

>the concentration of power to the Central Committee from the Soviets

>NEP

>Economic collectivisation of the Stalin era

>Khruschev and destalinisation

>Sino-Soviet split

>Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution

>Dengism

>Gorbachev's reforms

>The dissolution of the Soviet Union

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I have a question about a socialist country, but I'm afraid if I vocalize it, I may be building support for isolating it, and therefore become a pawn of imperialism. is there a way I can privately, discretely ask my question to someone knowledgeable about the Syrian Arab Republic, without the content of my question getting out?

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Zizek : "Game of Thrones tapped into fears of revolution and political women"

Game of Thrones tapped into fears of revolution and political women – and left us no better off than before

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/game-thrones-season-8-finale-bran-daenerys-cersei-jon-snow-zizek-revolution-a8923371.html

What do you think?

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Salvini and you a nationalist anti-national cuck

Marco rizzo/partito communista for the gulag setting for the bourgeois traitors.

Let's get out of the European Union and set up communism

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Calculating Value Created from Labour

So I'm reading Karl Marx's Capital. I love it so far, and I agree with everything it says, including the labor theory of value.

My question is though, how would I go about calculating the exact amount of value being created from labor power?

For example, if I was part of a mutual co-op, how would we go about dividing the money generated from the co-op amongst each-other?

I may not be able to respond immediately by the way because I have a psychiatric appointment to go to, but I will definitely read the responses and any answers I get will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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So it's already common knowledge that the CIA, as well as modern-day slave-drivers are behind the rise of the alt-right, but is the CIA responsible for "meme culture" in general? I believe there's a CIA presentation about memetic warfare floating around somewhere

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Venezuela to ditch Visa & Mastercard by early 2020 – reports

>The central bank of Venezuela will develop an independent national payment system to get rid of international giants Visa and Mastercard in response to US sanctions, according to local media citing the regulator.

>The document, which also separately mentions multi-national debit card service Maestro owned by Mastercard, orders a suspension of debit card operations starting November 2019 and payments via credit cards from January 2020.

>The joint order was reportedly issued on May 16 by the central bank and Superintendency of the Institutions of the Banking Sector of Venezuela (SUDEBAN), responsible for ensuring the country’s banks comply with local regulations. It instructs the banks to create a “sovereign” system to process financial operations that will use clients’ biometric data.

>The move comes in response to US sanctions against the country as the regulator anticipates that Visa and Mastercard will stop doing business in Venezuela under the pressure from Washington. It was earlier reported that the Trump administration is eyeing to prohibit the two payment systems and other financial institutions from processing transactions in the Bolivarian Republic.

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Hey there comrades, I'm a bit new here but has anyone here thought of raiding /pol?

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Many people think that Trump's rise is a threat to the left, but I would argue the opposite.

The populist and anti-establishment sentiments causing Trump's rise has been around way longer than the man himself. His unexpected win in 2016 could be what finally propels dems to wake up and realize that if they want to have any hope of winning elections in the future, they are going to have to stop running establishment centrists (which the Trump movement was a direct backlash towards), and instead start running candidates with actual visions for the country and the people, instead of candidates who just care about protecting their own power. Once the american people realize how much of a failure trump's presidency was, they may over time start turning to more leftwing people who capture a similar base.

Thoughts?

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Giving colors to old socialists

A couple of researchers from the University of California trained a Convolutional Neural Network to predict the colors in black and white images.

research paper

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1603.08511.pdf

files

https://void.cat/#Jtu4v94xWmFnCnTaw9OQYGV9F8e:31a13379feb87423c501e0bfea6cba27:10da71fc9fc9ca4fba043c64cbba243f

How do I use this?

First of all, this neural net runs on python with opencv and imutils so you'll have to start by installing those libraries first. You can just use pip for that:

pip install opencv-python

pip install imutils

install pip if you don't have it

How do I run the model?

Just type the following in a console, inside the folder containing the .py files:

python bw2color_image.py \

–prototxt model/colorization_deploy_v2.prototxt \

–model model/colorization_release_v2.caffemodel \

–points model/pts_in_hull.npy \

–image images/your_image.jpg

After that you'll be shown with two windows, one showing the original image and the second showing the colorized image, you just have to press any key to close both windows but remember to right click on the image if you wish to save it.

WARNING: Video files can be very heavy to process

But if you want to give it a go then you should just run:

python bw2color_video.py \

–prototxt model/colorization_deploy_v2.prototxt \

–model model/colorization_release_v2.caffemodel \

–points model/pts_in_hull.npy \

–input images/your_video.webm

This one should give you a look at the colorized frames, those frames will be stored in a folder called frames and you can join them to make a video with the "make_video.py" file, just remember to adjust the framerate.

LET'S GET TO COLOR

POST YOUR RESULTS

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QTDDTOT - questions that don't deserve their own thread

ITT: ask questions you think don't deserve their own thread, or are simple to the point they don't fit the character limit for thread creation.

This thread can be used by both leftists and non-leftists.

Contributions of individuals in reply to your questions do not represent the posters of this board as a whole.

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galaxy brain shit only

ITT: factual and logical and rational takes by intellectually honest, good faith interlocutors

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Why does the Communist Party of China have literal capitalists in its ranks?

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EU politics general - Sexy Social Democracy Edition

The EU elections are upon us. Expected to be a victory for the hard right, Europe is at a crossroads between further neoliberalism and fortress Europa. One man stands in opposition to this, the last some of Zeus, Hellas' fallen Hero, Varoufakis. At his side he has a cocaine-addled Slovenian, a Croatian Playwright, and Pamela fucking Anderson.

Welcome to European politics in 2019.

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it is quite interesting to see the extreme right calling the communists leftists globalist and globalist because so-called pro-European Union by calling them EURSS.

While today they want to stay there and we communists want to get out of the eu (at least for many communist parties).

It's pseudo-nationalist for a Europe of nations, which has never existed (there is no European people), it reminds us of a time when fascists were set up by liberals (notably the American right) who wanted a united Europe under German domination;)

In short, even as an internationalist, I am much more patriotic than any of his morons.

Whoever does not know history is condemned to relive it: Karl Marx

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/Ausleftypol/

How does it feel faggots? I bet it feels good that Labor fucking lost! Seriously… Fuck all of you melbournian cunts, go to hell…

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general webm thread

I just wanted to bring this old thread back.

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Is this AI correct?

>Go to talktotransformer.com

>Try giving it some interesting prompts

>See what kind of responses it generates

>Is it correct?

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OC Thread 3.0

OC Thread 3.0

I suppose we should establish a new thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content.

Feel free to post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you would like to share.

Or, collaborate on improving content within this thread.

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Sendero Luminoso Discussion Thread

What went wrong with the Shining Path? They came so incredibly close to overthrowing the Peruvian regime, and then everything went downhill.

Now they are reduced to a handful of marginals who have to traffic cocaine to fund what remains of their movement.

How true is the claim that they were unnecessarily ultra-violent, which alienated their base of support?

Did the cult of personality around President Gonzalo go too far?

Is it true they resorted to drug trafficking for funding? Is there anything inherently wrong with manufacturing + selling drugs to fund the revolution?

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The Growing Gulf Crisis

So an Emeriti tanker was blown-up in in the Gulf. The Yanks blame the Iranians, the Iranians blame the Israelis, and the Israelis blame the Iranians again.

With this, teh US is talking about a broad escalation in the region, as a response to Iran reneging on the Iran-Nuclear deal because the US itself reneged on this. In addition, the US wants to impose restrictions on Iran's missile program. Also Israel is bricking it about an Iranian nuclear program.

Meanwhile Europe is kinda just sitting on the sidelines absolutely furious that the Yanks have torn-up an agreement they signed to ensure this kind of this wouldn't happen.

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/white-house-reviews-military-plans-against-iran-report-says-1.7239042

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Has anyone on here ever debated a former leftist who claimed their politics changed after "loads and loads of study" or some shit?

Recently I had a heated debate with someone like this. Unfortunately he's very intelligent. He told me he was a very principled Marxist in his youth and also claimed to be very knowledgeable about Marx and Engels' works, Soviet history, Marxist theory, you get the picture. He even claimed to run Marxist study groups at his college a few years back. But apparently he turned into a flat-out reactionary, said all of Marxism (and leftism in general) is based on incorrect foundations, says communism will never happen, likes to make "West is best" kind of lowkey justifications for imperialism, is pro-Israel, says leftists are all a bunch of utopian shitheads, Lenin was an idiot, revolutions are failures, and Marx would agree with him on everything. So basically he's a neocon, or a "Marxist without being a communist" (but not even really Marxist). He was very fluent in history and philosophy in our conversation to the point where my only means of countering his bullshit were either emotions or moralism.

Has anyone else ever gone through something like this with an ex-lefty? What did they say to you? Did you find their arguments convincing at all?

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News 5/22/19

Over 240,000 people back Chinese tech worker protest

A protest by tech workers in China over inhumane working conditions has gained widespread support from software engineers and others internationally.In March of this year a GitHub user with the name 996icu created a project named 996.icu. The project was named to protest the “996” work culture in Chinese tech companies.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/05/22/tech-m22.html

'Urgent': Risk of nuclear war now greater than at any time since 1945, UN warns

The risk of conflict involving nuclear weapons is at its highest since the Second World War, a senior United Nations (UN) security expert has warned.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nuclear-war-conflict-united-nations-us-china-russia-second-world-war-a8925081.html

6 Die In Jakarta Riots After President Joko Widodo's Election Win Is Confirmed

Confirmation of Indonesian President Joko "Jokowi" Widodo's reelection win has set off violence in Jakarta, where officials say at least six people died after protests morphed into riots in the capital. Widodo's challenger, retired military general Prabowo Subianto, is refusing to concede the race.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/22/725668115/six-die-in-jakarta-riots-after-president-joko-widodos-election-win-is-confirmed

Chagos Islands dispute: UN backs end to UK control

The UN has passed a resolution demanding the UK return control of the Chagos Islands to Mauritius.In the non-binding vote in the General Assembly in New York, 116 states were in favour and only six against, a major diplomatic blow to the UK.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48371388

Right-wing Finnish youth group causes uproar over ‘racist’ tweet against non-whites

Finns Party Youth, the junior wing of the Finns Party, tweeted a screenshot from a European Parliament ad which depicted two dark-skinned parents and their child.“Vote Finns so that Finland’s future will not look like this,” Finnish Youth captioned the image.

https://www.rt.com/news/459986-finland-racist-eu-elections-ad/

Andrea Leadsom quits: Resignation letter in full

Commons leader Andrea Leadsom has resigned from the government amid a backlash against Theresa May's Brexit plan from Conservative MPs.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48372989

Italy's Matteo Salvini Hopes To Lead Nationalist Wave In Upcoming European Elections

As a recording played the late tenor Luciano Pavarotti singing Puccini's Nessun Dorma aria, with its refrain of "Vincerò!" (I will win), Salvini took center-stage before a crowd of some 20,000 cheering fans.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/22/725023096/italys-matteo-salvini-hopes-to-lead-nationalist-wave-in-upcoming-european-electi

Philippines' Duterte loses patience, orders trash shipped back Canada

The Philippines’ President Rodrigo Duterte has ordered his government to hire a private shipping company to send 69 containers of garbage back to Canada and leave them within its territorial waters if it refuses to accept the trash, his spokesman said on Wednesday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-canada-waste/philippines-duterte-loses-patience-orders-trash-shipped-back-to-canada-idUSKCN1SS14D

Two cops injured in IED blast by Maoist in Chhattisgarh

Two District Reserve Guard (DRG) personnel were injured on Tuesday when Maoists detonated an Improvised Explosive Device (IED) in Chhattisgarh’s Sukma district, police said.

https://www.redspark.nu/en/peoples-war/two-cops-injured-in-ied-blast-by-maoist-in-chhattisgarh/

Ukraine Considers Referendum on Possible Russian Peace Deal

Ukraine may submit any preliminary peace deal agreed with Russia to the Ukrainian people for a referendum, the new head of President Volodymyr Zelenskiy's administration told Ukrainian television Tuesday.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/05/22/ukraine-considers-referendum-possible-russian-peace-deal-a65684

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EU elections

I stumbled upon a pool in /leftybritpol/ thread, with question "who will you vote for in eu elections?". What the fuck? Why would enlightened /leftypol/ comrade vote for anyone else than the communist party?

>b-but party I am voting for is promising more green industry/higher (minimal) wages/better free speech protection/…

Why would you vote for a party with single (empty) promise of something better instead of party which will offer you full package?

>b-but communist party in my country is corrupt as fuck

so is party you would be voting for, you just not know it

>b-but I am the real communist(R) so I know that burgerious elections to the EU will not abolish capital anyway and so on and on

like it or not, EU parliament and institutions does affect our daily lives. Also, the communist parties are fighting for further democratization of EU

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EFF makes gains in SA elections

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-africa-37116152/south-africa-elections-eff-delivers-blow-to-anc-over-city-mayors

COMMUNIST SOUTH AFRICA ON THE HORIZON

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IRA Thread: 32 County Socialist Republic

So how about the troubles part 2, lads? Whether you be a Provo or like the Official IRA, Ireland needs a true socialist republic. Someone on here said that Turkey will be the first worker's state in the 21st century, but what if we did that in Ireland?

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Anarcho-communism reading list?

So recently I've been flirting with anarcho-communism, wondering if theres any books/pamphlets to check out

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Political Compass, 8 values test, Economics Test

Post all of your results for where you align politically via these tests and allow debate + discourse in these topics.

Would be nice to see what Leftys usually get on here.

Political Compass X-Y axis

https://www.politicalcompass.org/

8 bit values, 4 axis

https://8values.github.io/quiz.html

Economics Test

http://dichotomytests.com/test.html?id=1

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How do we fix this delusional bullshit that people hang on to? If people are this retarded, Unionization let alone Communism will never take hold.

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DEFEND VENEZUELA AND MADURO

SMALL, FAILED COUP ATTEMPT IN VENEZUELA

>A military base in Caracas, called la Carlota, has rebelled against the Maduro goverment and are now being commanded by Juan Guaidó.

>Those defectors have allegedly taken Leopoldo López from the domiciary arrest he was in, and is supporting the defectors.

>Guaidó is calling for both a "military and civilian" uprising against Chavismo.

>Maduro has assured that this Coup d'etat is getting pacified, has banned twiiter for now tho.

>Military movements are happening right now at Caracas.

>Not even a single military base, aside from La Carlota has actually rebeled, but it's still morning there, so let's see.

>As expected, Us congressmen have already celebrated the coup (remember, the coup happened at 5 A.M).

https://venezuela.liveuamap.com/

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End of Soviet Union - Who is responsible?

>no mass deaths/famine after the 50s

>eliminated wage gap

>life expectancy on trajectory to surpass greatest western powers

>literacy rate above some western powers

>massive rates of production

>no imperialist colonies or exploitation of 3rd world labor overseas

>leading scientists in rocketry, physics, and medicine

>polls conducted in 2017 show that majority of citizens miss the USSR

I don't understand how it fell apart, or how someone that grew up enjoying these benefits would turn their back on them and destroy them. Was there something fundamentally flawed with the system itself? Was it Gorbachev, the capitalist traitor? Was it the "star wars" that bankrupted them as the Americans say? I don't understand why some Marxists say "durr it wasn't actually communism that's why it collapsed" when the Soviet Union clearly made great strides and was head and shoulders above many so called superior capitalist nations. Even if it wasn't "communist," surely the results speak for themselves and prove themselves as a superior alternative to capitalism.

I don't mean it as a troll question, it's just I saw Cockshott's video on the subject and many others I have seen give varied and sometimes contradictory explanations/analyses.

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United States Senator

Reminder this person was a Senator in the USA at the time of the filming.

What percentage of American Conservative white men hold beliefs like this?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k4pMTsa1Kw

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Not trying to be /pol/, but why did Leftism in the USA get involved with minorities and etc when in the past people who were into it were vocal about being pro-imperialist and genocidal and shit like that.

Marx celebrated the conquest of Mexico as it brought them into history, Communism is an extension of Christianity which called for Maoist Cultural Revolutions of the complete wiping out of inferior cultures, Union Army had a bunch of Socialists and Communists who were vocal about wanting to kill non-whites, numerous people such as Jack London and etc who were early 1900's Progressives wanted total and complete dominance over other nations.

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Communist Wallpapers

Best Soviet Union/Communist

Desktop wallpapers/Phone wallpapers

lets get some beautiful pictures in here boys.

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Criticize anons state structure thesis!!!

I support communistic dual structuralist statism(doesnt seem to be a thing anon makes another term"unless shown otherwise please do")! When I say that its merely a suggestion for state structure Im throwing out there. thats within the framework of communism. I believe there should be 2 bodies of mass social organization! Those 2 bodies are the production collective and the state! Both these bodies play roles as I will explain below

1.The production collective

>is 100% in control of how things are made or the way the service is done…

(Thou its a massive organisations there are local branchs for each and evey trade service etc…)

>Could be divided into economic zones the size of lets say of average lower 48 state(still part of the greater W0Rld production collective. Also this is for economic cooperation and planning not for nationalism)

>they are not citizens to a state

>all weaponization is by the individual (A member of the production collective)

>leadership in the union is a thing naturally more knowledgeable people will have the expertise to know hoe things should be run the difference is that there your peer not you superior. No hierarchical institutions!!!

2.the state

>no political partys

>no way to coerce the individual has no military no police

>is the extension of the production collective in planning distribution,infrastructure, many fields

(Lets say were putting in a cross continent 400km speed train the state would over see it. by the way the train engineering union(a subsection of the broader production collective oversees it you controlled it not a corporation)

>no more id's, license plates gov numbers….

>no more perments needing the states mode of "permission"

Want to leave the country?lol want to sell a car?want to take some tabs? want to distribute cigs on the corner?what a libertarian paradise

>most modern law rethought or abolished

>no more prisions

>no taxes(thats capitalism fam)

>no thought policing you can say anything do anything but were not protecting you from there consequences

Anons this is no where near complete I just want to bounce it of people.

Remember all im throwing out there is that there should be 2 international organizations!(both having for planing… regional areas)1. the production collective (the worldwide workers union is in control of production)

2.(the state basically its helper agent!)

If you think my proposel deserves no consideration point it out!

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I have an important question to ask.

Do you have friends, /leftypol/?

I don't

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Vietnam/SE Asia Thread

Can someone more knowledgeable than my stupid ass explain socialism in Vietnam? Is their validity to claims of "authoritarian capitalism" and if so are there opportunities for advancement within the country? How does the government and the populace interact? Is their revolutionary potential in the rest of South East Asia?

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EU

Ok, we all know, that the EU is shit, that's a undeniable fact.

But in regard to the upcoming EU-election, communist parties only have two options to offer: 1." The EU is a lost cause, therefore Lexit (Left-exit) is the only way."

or

2."We should try to get into the EU-parliament, because it is possible to transform the EU into a progressive force."

Give me your thoughts about this issue.

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Fuck Ajit Pai

https://gizmodo.com/the-bullshit-reason-ajit-pai-is-using-to-back-the-t-mob-1834895657

This guy in one breath says that we need to get rid of Net Neutrality because it’ll stifle competition and screw consumers over, and then in another statement says it’s okay to have less competition by letting two mega-corporations merge into an even fatter company, therefore potentially screwing consumers over?

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News 5/21/19

Brexit: PM says MPs have 'one last chance' to back her deal

Theresa May has said MPs have "one last chance" to deliver Brexit, urging them to back what she called a "new deal".MPs will get a vote on whether to hold another referendum if they back the EU Withdrawal Agreement Bill, she said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48357017

Pull Danish troops back home to man WALL on German border, anti-Islam right-wing party leader says

A dark horse right-wing candidate in Denmark’s national elections who has called to militarize the country’s land border and to build a wall to keep out migrants just might earn enough votes to enter the parliament.

https://www.rt.com/news/459933-danish-anti-islam-party-wall-germany/

Venezuela's ambassador to Italy quits post saying US sanctions have reduced him to poverty

Venezuela’s ambassador to Italy has resigned his post, saying US sanctions have reduced him to penury and have made it impossible to keep running the diplomatic mission.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/05/21/venezuelas-ambassador-italy-quits-post-saying-us-sanctions-have/

Accused Shooter In New Zealand Mosque Attacks Charged With Terrorism

The man accused in the mass shootings at two New Zealand mosques has been charged with carrying out a terrorist act. Brenton H. Tarrant, 28, already faced 50 counts of murder and 40 counts of attempted murder for the March 15 shootings at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/21/725390449/accused-shooter-in-new-zealand-mosque-attacks-charged-with-terrorism

27th weekly “yellow vest” rally in France: Protesters defend Assange, denounce war

After French President Emmanuel Macron declared Friday that he had satisfied the demands of “yellow vest” protesters and called on them to vote in the European elections, the “yellow vests” took to the streets across France for a 27th weekly Saturday protest. The Interior ministry claimed 15,500 joined the protests, while the “yellow vests” themselves claimed 41,000.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/05/21/yell-m21.html

Brazil Loosens Gun Control, Civilians Can Own Military Rifles

Brazilian far-right President Jair Bolsonaro signed a decree this month which will allow citizens to possess rifles with four times the amount of firepower

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Brazil-Loosens-Gun-Control-Civilians-Can-Own-Military-Rifles-20190521-0009.html

5,000 terrorists amassed in Afghanistan close to CIS border - Russian FSB chief

An Islamic State offshoot has amassed around 5,000 militants in northern Afghanistan on the border of post-Soviet republics of Central Asia, the director of Russia’s FSB has warned, adding that many of them have fought in Syria.

https://www.rt.com/news/459861-thousands-terrorists-concentrated-afghanistan/

Water supply restored for millions in Libya, averting crisis

Water supplies to the Libyan capital and surrounding cities have been restored two days after they were cut off when an armed group stormed a control room, averting shortages that could have caused a humanitarian crisis.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/21/millions-without-water-libya-armed-group-cuts-off-supply

Venezuela's Maduro proposes early elections for opposition-run congress

Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro on Monday proposed early elections for the National Assembly, which is headed by opposition leader Juan Guaido and is the sole body recognized as democratically legitimate by most Western nations.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics/venezuelas-maduro-proposes-early-elections-for-opposition-run-congress-idUSKCN1SQ267

A Glimpse Behind the Iron Curtain

As nostalgia for the Soviet Union swells, one project aims to show what life was like for ordinary citizens in the U.S.S.R.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/05/21/a-glimpse-behind-the-iron-curtain-a65604

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Ya boi Lain out here again with the nuclear takes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEYk33CxmsA

>The history of really existing socialist parties in Europe has been the history of social democracy. In this video the differences between social democratic, Bolshevik, and Marxist understandings of Marx are highlighted. We also consider how Anselm Jappe’s “The Writing on the Wall” suggests anti-politics as a solution for the impasse between socialism and social democracy.

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cockshott ml

What tendency is cockshott exactly? I know most here are MLs, but is he an ML? he certainly is friendly with MLs like finbol. IS he maoist/deleonist? Can we say that Cybernetic Marxism is a separate tendency altogether or is it simply an evolution of ML? or just M

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MUH READ SETTLERS thread 2: New Afrikan Boogaloo

Return of the thread about "Settlers: The mythology of white proletariat".

That book is anti-marxist bullshit. PROVE ME WRONG.

If you want read it: http://readsettlers.org/

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I'm a Marxist but I also think race/nationality is important and multiculturalism will always result in conflict. I literally can't say these things around other leftist friends but I don't know what to do.

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Tips and tricks on Unionizing a new workplace?

Also Unionizing while drunk on the clock?

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News 5/20/19

Ukraine's Comedian President Takes Office, Says He's Dissolving Parliament

Ukraine now has a new president, as Volodymyr Zelenskiy was sworn into office on Monday — and the famous comedian immediately said one of his first actions will be to dissolve parliament. Fulfilling a campaign promise, Zelenskiy announced a snap election to choose new lawmakers.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/20/724961911/ukraines-comedian-president-takes-office-says-he-s-dissolving-parliament

BP headquarters in London blockaded by Greenpeace

Greenpeace activists have blockaded all entrances to the BP headquarters in London, demanding an end to all new oil and gas exploration.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/may/20/bp-headquarters-in-london-blockaded-by-greenpeace

Russia scandal triggers mass resignations of far-Right in Austria's coalition government

The Austrian government was plunged further into crisis on Monday after the far-right FPÖ party resigned their ministerial posts en masse in response to Chancellor Sebastian Kurz sacking the interior minister over a Russia-linked corruption scandal.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/05/20/russia-scandal-triggers-mass-resignations-far-right-members/

‘We won’t be complicit’: Italian dock workers refuse to load Saudi arms ship over Yemen war

Italian unions have refused to load cargo onto a Saudi ship carrying weapons, in protest against Riyadh’s war on Yemen. The dock workers have gone on strike, refusing to work until the ship leaves port in Genoa.

https://www.rt.com/news/459806-saudi-arms-ship-blocked-italian-port/

Nigel Farage hit by milkshake during Newcastle walkabout

Nigel Farage had milkshake thrown at him during a campaign walkabout.The Brexit Party leader had just given a short speech in Newcastle as part of a tour of the country ahead of the European elections.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-48339711

11 people reportedly killed in shooting at a bar in Brazil

11 people have died and one other is injured in Brazil's northern Pará state after gunmen opened fire on a bar, local media reports.

https://www.businessinsider.com/brazil-bar-shooting-para-belem-massacre-death-toll-2019-5

Indian PM Modi secures 2nd term & stronger majority, exit polls show

India’s ruling National Democratic Alliance headed by Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s Bharatiya Janata Party is on course to win the general election by a substantial margin, multiple exit polls indicate.

https://www.rt.com/news/459762-india-modi-election-results/

Far-right Alternative for Germany sets the tone for German Grand Coalition government

Last Thursday’s debate in the Bundestag (federal parliament) was a particularly odious spectacle. In the face of increasing transatlantic tensions, the acute danger of war in the Middle East, and growing opposition to social inequality and militarism, the German ruling class demonstrated once again that it is moving further to the right ahead of the European elections.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/05/20/germ-m20.html

U.S. warship sails in disputed South China Sea amid trade tensions

The U.S. military said one of its warships sailed near the disputed Scarborough Shoal claimed by China in the South China Sea on Sunday, angering Beijing at a time of tense ties between the world’s two biggest economies.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-military/us-warship-sails-in-disputed-south-china-sea-amid-trade-tensions-idUSKCN1SQ067

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>trying to find information on what it was really like growing up in the USSR (a communist country)

>google "life in ussr"

>first link is from a site called United Church of God

>first half of article is written by a priest or someshit because it just talks about how evil communism and how stalin killed millions and there was no "caring for the individual and no one wanted to work, and everyone starved" and other right wing blah blah bs propoganda

>the first half was written by an american priest.

>2nd half of the article is ACTUALLY an account of what someones life was like in the USSR and its filled with praise and talks about how nice it was.

https://www.ucg.org/beyond-today/beyond-today-magazine/the-soviet-union-the-dream-and-the-reality

When the fuck are people going to wakeup and realize communism is great and the negative shit they think about is purely bourgeoisie/religious minded propaganda

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4 the collective eutopia

Here is something i wonder.

Should we have a society where each member is part of "the collective"

All children get basic education and when 12 get aptitude tests and receive the last 4 years in specialized education, and when members turn 16 will have the duty to perform 8 hours of labor a day .

> Each members pays 100% tax , which then get redistributed by

an a.i system that redistibutes to the collective.

>Each Member will be essentially loaned a 6x6 x2 meter habitation unit in a condo , basic food rations will be supplied daily.

>There is no fiat currency, the collective,a.i provides weekly allowance credit payment %

based on algorithmic evaluation of the collective economy

>Commuting is through public transport, because that is the sacrifice of a low energy rated society.

>Religion outlawed unless based on "community is god and we are community"

>The social culture and individual credibillity/status within the collective is rated by the community through a live like/dislike system.

>Each member of the community reaching the age of 16 will be issued a biotronic neck bracelet wired into The nervous system that monitors position, keeps track of biometrics, has a comms system, is a payment system and offers ai assistance, is a database containing your vote history etc.

>There will be full (glass house style) surveillance.

But each camera stream is open source, yes that means you have the right to peek into your peers habitation unit, and fully monitor their comms, bioghraphy, history, activities

After all they and you are part of the collective, in the collective you can't have secrets or privacy.

>Breeding and pairing are controlled by "the collective" it's ai will assign you a viable partner based on your sexual/ personallity trait preference, then a contract of bonding will be issued and both parties sign up , which basicly means" these members are currently bonding and thus unavailable for pairing with other members of the collective" medical staff will be assigned to monitor the gestation situation.

Any offspring however does not belong to you but to the collective. i.e offspring goes to communal education centers to receive functional and social "progducation."

>The collective decides fate/rewards.

You can vote and be voted at by your peers and at certain parameter thresholds you/ they become eligible for tiered rewards/perks or punishment

>This system is a Social/Technodemocratic collective.

where you are in and under control.

100% egalitarian and incorrupt eutopia

100% social collective

100% efficient in resource and energy management

100% shareware you own nothing, everything belongs to the collective.

This is what we are working towards right guys , guys ? Please don't vote re-progducation 4 me

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NatSynd/Falangism

Is it a good semi-Socialist ideology or actually bourgeois fascist reaction? Please discuss.

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leftycomics

hey people, i was trying to make some comics to educate the masses about capitalism. i decided to post them here to make if i'm doing it good.

what do you think? the idea is well expressed?

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Have any of yall seen Active Measures?

Did you like it? How does it compare to Hypernormalisation?

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This guy is right anons

Who's interested in scamming a bunch of bougies. That last guy who wanted to spread internet propaganda should also focus on this crap

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Russia

I don't know if this thread belongs here, but I'm going to post it here anyway. If it doesn't belong here, delete it please.

Is russia still a marxist country. Russia tells that it is a democracy, but a friend of mine told me that russia is still marxist. Or at least a little bit marxist. Is this true?

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Marxist/ insightful analysis of Intelligence Agencies?

Do people here agree with me that Intelligence Agencies are the most important organizations in the world? I want to read more Marxist analysis of them, obviously not Marx himself probably, since such institutions didn't exist in his day. Who has gone deeply into the history and functioning of what has become a core part of the capitalist economy?

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Which side are you on? :

I found this test on where you'd lie during 1917. So enjoy, I guess.

https://arzamas.academy/materials/1269

I think Stalin did nothing wrong, and I'm a Wobbly

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Okay so, I want to develop a crack team of online propagandists for things and stuff. I don't want to go into it too much here, but I've got a few ideas on how we can organise to push the left online.

If I get a few responses on this I will make a discord we can talk in, first off, need establish trust and make sure you aren't raiding polyps, so I want to have one on one conversations and see what I can ascertain.

Some of you may recognise my flag and know I've been talking about this for a little bit.

I'm not looking for a waste of time or some bullshit, I am active IRL in tenants and trade unions, as well as other areas of organisation I won't got into in insecure places.

I truly believe that outside of organisation of working and community spaces, online propaganda is our next strongest tool and one we don't even nearly use to its fullest extent.

It may even be that in this day and age you can do more online than organising people, it may be that the two are mutually self supporting.

I have a pretty detailed programme worked out, the idea, like any Maoist, is to start small and build from there, with every stage reinforcing the last and building to the next. I don't think that straight away we can do big things, but we can build to them.

What I want from you:

1) An ability to confidently argue the case for communism, or the humility to learn how to do so from people that can.

2) A willingness to work with all sects to achieve common goals even if you disagree with them. For what I want to do it is best we have a variety of viewpoints. Working with a group even though you may disagree with certain decisions made by the majority of the rest of the group.

3) A willingness to take part and follow through on what you say you will do. I'm not expecting there to be large amounts of work, actually for a shitposter most of it will be pretty fun, but hangers on and seat warmers are in the words of James Connolly to be avoided. Hobbyists can fuck off.

4) No radlibs.

5) No radlibs.

We will EDUCATE by spreading left win propoganda. AGITATE by doing things and stuff I won't say here and in doing so ORGANISE ourselves into an effective unit.

Note to mods: This is not a raid thread, nothing i intend to do will be connected to leftypol

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WWIII thread

Saw the huge thread watching the Market turn into a general thread on the next crisis of capitalism, so I figured we should have a thread on the increasingly aggressive political crisis fomenting between the different imperialist powers and the war-cry they’re shouting against each other and China

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/collapse/

Let's have a comfy thread about how capitalism might end civilisation should socialism not prevail (or rise out of the collapse, who knows?). So far I've identified three major threats I don't think capitalism will be able to deal with:

>climate change

Kind of a no brainer. Everybody knows we need to get off this moving train.

>depletion of drinking water and arable land in the Global South

Causes massive migration movements that may give rise to Orwellian scenarios on the side of the West, eventually collapsing into a war or genocide.

>inter-imperialist conflict

And all-out exchange between USA, EU, Russia, China or India. May involve nukes or not, I doubt they're gonna use nukes, but the ensuring collapse will be terminal nonetheless. One or two nukes might be used.

So, let's talk about how capitalism causes all of this (or other things), how it may be slowed down or prevented within the scope of capitalism, or how it won't.

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Nu Caleb Maupin and Jason Unruhe debate over third worldism, fuckers

>Third Worldism, Imperialism, Aristocracy of Labor - Caleb Maupin explains

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i29kWYXlwhw

>re: Third Worldism, Imperialism, Aristocracy of Labor - Caleb Maupin explains

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28563YD8nO0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maoism_(Third_Worldism)

What's your opinion on third worldism?

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WE STAN OUR GREEN IMPERIALIST QUEEN

ELIZABETH WARREN CALLS FOR GREEN MILITARY

YASSSSSSSSSSS

>The Pentagon is the single largest government consumer of energy, and it’s dependent on fossil fuels. To improve military readiness and help us achieve a #GreenNewDeal, the Pentagon should achieve net zero carbon emissions for all its non-combat bases and infrastructure by 2030.

>Today, I am introducing my Defense Climate Resiliency and Readiness Act to harden the U.S. military against the threat posed by climate change, and to leverage its huge energy footprint as part of our climate solution.

>We don’t have to choose between a green military and an effective one. My plan will improve our service members’ readiness and safety, and achieve cost savings for American taxpayers. Together, we can fight climate change—and win.

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1128656243495702530

https://archive.fo/ZI6D4

Isn't this awesome? We are going to get our FIRST female president who will give us a GREEN military to BOMB brown people with in an ENVIRONMENTALLY-FRIENDY way!

I LOVE THE FUTURE

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Psychiatry is the opium of the people

>One can apply Marx's arguments about religion very directly to this - that religion was the opium of the masses. Anti-depressants and therapy are the opium of the masses now, in lots of ways. That isn't to say that they don't do anything at all. They do in many cases relieve intense suffering, which people are undergoing. But it's just the same as religion. As Marx said, it'll make people better in a kind of savage and pitiless world - religion wants real comfort to people in the same way, in a world of relentless competition, of digital hyper-stress, etc. Being able to talk to someone for an hour in cognitive behavioural therapy or having something which will take the edge of things via anti- depressants - that will make people feel better, but just as with religion, it doesn't get to the sources of that sort of misery in the first place. It in fact obfuscates it.

>Capitalist realism insists on treating mental health as if it were a natural fact, like weather (but, then again, weather is no longer a natural fact so much as a political-economic effect). In the 1960s and 1970s, radical theory and politics (Laing, Foucault, Deleuze and Guattari, etc.) coalesced around extreme mental conditions such as schizophrenia, arguing, for instance, that madness was not a natural, but a political, category. But what is needed now is a politicization of much more common disorders. Indeed, it is their very commonness which is the issue: in Britain, depression is now the condition that is most treated by the NHS. In his book The Selfish Capitalist, Oliver James has convincingly posited a correlation between rising rates of mental distress and the neoliberal mode of capitalism practiced in countries like Britain, the USA and Australia. In line with James’s claims, I want to argue that it is necessary to reframe the growing problem of stress (and distress) in capitalist societies. Instead of treating it as incumbent on individuals to resolve their own psychological distress, instead, that is, of accepting the vast privatization of stress that has taken place over the last thirty years, we need to ask: how has it become acceptable that so many people, and especially so many young people, are ill?

Some words from Mark Fisher.

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Do you think if rural conservative americans knew what communism ACTUALLY was (them getting to own their own gay farm, having barbecues every weekend with their giant inbred family and friends without worrying about going broke, and feeling like member of a real community) that they would be die hard communists and we would have a revolution where workers seize the means of production in america immediately?

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Anti-Stalin Propaganda

>Tfw modern propaganda on Stalin is just reports on other people praising him

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B7rjaDBAe0w

This is too good. I await the day when anti-Stalin rhetoric is just news networks recording someone like Grover Furr giving a lecture from start to finish. What are some other examples of modern anti-Stalin propaganda besides the normal stuff you get in discussions?

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What is your opinion on the Jewish problem

Should most Jews be sent to gulags or reformed. Is current Judaism compatible with Marxism?

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/ita/ - terza edizione

>La crisi consiste appunto nel fatto che il vecchio muore e il nuovo non può nascere: in questo interregno si verificano i fenomeni morbosi più svariati.

Quest'uomo era un genio e un profeta.

Intanto, un ben noto ruffiano, procuratore di mignotte (sia femmine che maschi) d'alto bordo, ha annunciato di voler acquistare la testata de "l'Unità". Al tempo stesso, per un miserabile scazzo di natura corporativa, la "professione" giornalistica italiana organizza flesc' mobbese per le strade. Cosa di cui non si sarebbe reso conto nessuno se gli oziosi telegiornali che ci fanno sorbire tutti i giorni non avessero dato ampio spazio alla cosa. Ovviamente ben più importante dei massacri a Gaza e nello Yemen.

Più fenomeni morbosi di così!

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All right you fuckers, red-pill me on Stalin. What lies have capitalist propaganda spread about the USSR/PRC/PRNK? Links to articles or sources appreciated.

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Online Direct Democracy Praxis

Representative democracy doesn't represent the masses. Politicians can be bought and sold. Meanwhile, we know from opinion polls that the masses don't want neoliberalism.

So why not push for online direct democracy? Over time, as the masses have more control over political power, they will want to use their political power to gain economic power. Socialism will be easier to achieve under direct democracy than representative democracy.

It is possible to set up a direct democracy party within representative democracy. Such a party will have an online voting platform where any registered voter can directly vote on issues. Elected representatives of the party promise to act according to how the online platform tells them to.

Some people have tried to run for parliament in Australia on such a platform, but they didn't have up and running online platforms.

We need a simple online direct democracy party. There's no need to develop software, we can use LiquidFeedback. This tool also features delegated voting, so you can delegate your vote to someone else if you can't follow every bill.

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What should stupid people do?

Most Marxists and socialists are way smarter and better informed than me.

It makes me feel like I should just stay out of politics and economics and leave it to the smart people.

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New /pol/

I've made a new /pol/ board with a large emphasis on debating other anons using proper evidence, statistics, arguing techniques, and logical reasoning. All forms of poltical discussion is allowed, we do not discriminate on ideology. You're more than welcome to try and convince other anons about your worldview, you won't be silenced because of it.

Stop by >>>/pol3/ anytime.

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Take the Tankiepill

Since there's a lot of newfags here I decided it was time for another Marxism-Leninism discussion thread. Anarchists and leftcoms welcome but please try not to fling shit

Starting with some links for discussion

>poll from 2019 shows Stalin viewed positively by 50 percent of Russians today

https://www.rt.com/russia/456690-stalin-rating-historic-maximum/

>60% of Russians want communism back

https://web.archive.org/web/20140223044330/http://www.systemiccapital.com/60-percent-of-russians-want-communism-back/

>Gallup: Former Soviet Countries See More Harm From Breakup

>https://news.gallup.com/poll/166538/former-soviet-countries-harm-breakup.aspx

>76 percent of Soviet citizens voted for preservation of the USSR in 1991

https://sputniknews.com/infographics/20110313162959645/

>Growing Up Under Communism was the Happiest Time in My Life

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1221064/Oppressive-grey-No-growing-communism-happiest-time-life.html

>More Fulfilling Relationships and Better Sex Under Socialism

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html

10s of Thousands of Russians Protesting Yeltins Government Adorned in Red Flags and Hammer and Sickle back in 1993

https://youtu.be/bjBmtkW3Tl8

>Michael Parenti-Communism Has Worked

https://youtu.be/6Tmi7JN3LkA

>Michael Parenti-Authoritarianism in Socialist Countries

https://youtu.be/6gtUaGV6mNI

>Truth About Starvation in North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela

https://youtu.be/sknaV0nqVT8

>Why Communism is Important

https://youtu.be/TumR7eTc_-c

Playlist of cool Communist music including from the USSR and other socialist states

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCbbYCusuEhZ50TsgFwVnKdQHha_fz7uv

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8chan covered on dutch television

I'm sorry but I find this for some reason funny and wanted to share. Sadly we haven't been talked about much, they just said that far left extreminism covers only 1% of the site. The video mostly covers /pol/.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIg1Yt7UpXA

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Train appreciation thread

We all know that railways are the socialist's mode of transportation but beside the "post your flags" and "post your soviet ww2 vehicles" threads I miss some good old train astethics.

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8chan may make an appearance on VICE soon

Jim Watkins claims Elle Reeve and Lani Levine of VICE News have "broke into" his home

https://twitter.com/infinitechan/status/1129674534775209985

Jilted former 8chan/Watkins employee Fredrick Brennan counters that it was "most likely one of his servants" that let them in

https://twitter.com/HW_BEAT_THAT/status/1130047841689227265

In recent news regarding VICE, they have released a segment supporting the pro-Guaidó protesters and a U.S. secret police agency (known as "U.S. Secret Service") in their ouster of anti-war Code Pink activists from the now-seized Venezuelan embassy in D.C.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hAvW_ojaiA

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HEGEL

https://www.supremereality.us/home/thread?id=hegel

Can someone TLDR his ideas for me? the only things i know about him are from anal water and that guys is confusing as all hell. I know that the thesis antithesis synthesis are wrong, but what exactly did Hegel philosophize then?

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Laugh at /pol/ bread

Can we get a laugh at /pol/fag thread going?

Picture is a reddit screencap because /pol/ is literally filled with redditfag.boomers now

Feel free to post anything that is unintentionally hilarious and by /pol/fags

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Best response to muh 9999999 trillion

I've been thinking about a better way to respond to the typical argument against communism.

What if instead of simply denying the claim that "Communism killed X zillion people", we flip the tables and say "Good - I wish they killed even more capitalist scumbags. Then maybe we wouldn't have so much shit to deal with today".

Point out how capitalists are killing (directly and indirectly) millions of poor people for profit every year. Point out how liquidating X amount of capitalist parasites would save the lives of X * 10,000 or more poor proletarians.

The problem with denying the accusation is that it puts communists on the defense. If we waste our time debunking propaganda, porky has already won.

Another benefit of this strategy is that it's an edgy and uncompromising aesthetic. This will 100% steal incels, NEETs, and other alienated marginals from the alt-right.

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should we support the ivasions and wars started by the communist amd socialist nations. since the invasions they do does spread the class war. it speeds it up and we need to speed it up! if we don't speed it up wars for profit, global starvation, super bacteria and global warming will destroy the world. and a lot of these wars have been to counter fascism which is a good goal. so the point is, imperialism caused by socialist nations is justified. you can debate me sure i will probaply not respond i am bad at debating.

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"Not Real Socialism"… Worst Argument Ever!

Caleb Maupin addresses a trend among Western leftists who say the Soviet Union "wasn't real socialism" as a response to "Stalin killed a billion people! Everyone in communism was equally poor!" and claim that worker cooperatives are what socialism really is all about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z9BLdo7AYE

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/leftypol/

Lmao you pathetic communists always make me laugh with "your fight against the establishment" threads

Face it, most racists and capitalists will be infinitely more successful than any of you children ever will be. You are on the 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧right side of history🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧, get to taking our countries back winners.

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Abortion

What is /leftypol/'s stance on abortion?

I know that many people here consider it a wedge/idpol issue used to deflect class antagonism, but for a lot of people it really is a very important issue: A lot of evangelical Christians are single issue voters that voted for Trump solely because they are anti-abortion.

In Mexico too, a lot of people use AMLO's stance on abortion to push their neoliberal, actually reactionary parties. And in the Philippines, a deeply catholic country, communist leaders and militias are demonized as literal child murderers because of their pro-choice and feminist leanings.

In the last week, we saw laws passed in the American South that make abortion punishable by 99 years in jail, to much fanfare by Trump supporters. Ben Shapiro, Joe Rogan, Molyneux and similar proto-fascist goons keep bringing up the "Progressives want to kill babies" point too.

I think it's an important issue to discuss how to connect with the working class that sees abortion as child murder, and also not forget that women saw the ability to control their reproductive rights as an integral part of liberation.

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Chemical attacks in Syria now officially revealed to be fake

Does this warrant its own thread? I think so. Here is a good write-up:

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/confirmed-chemical-weapons-assessment-contradicting-official-syria-narrative-is-authentic-fbcbf7ef281a

So the integrity of the OPCW is pretty much ruined now, isn't it? They withheld critical information in a highly unstable war situation, and the media completely ignores this as well. Together the this:

https://www.mintpressnews.com/bbc-producer-says-syria-douma-chemical-attack-footage-was-staged/255152/

This is some incriminating shit.

Also, the absolute state of Bellingcat. Are media outlets still gonna uncritical quote that guy?

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News 5/18/19

Australian PM Morrison celebrates unexpected election victory

Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison said his government had delivered a miracle result in Saturday’s election where it unexpectedly looks set to retain office, saying the victory was for the “quiet Australians” who supported him.“I have always believed in miracles!” Morrison told an exuberant room of Liberal Party supporters around midnight.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-election-morrison-idUSKCN1SO0DN

Austria's Vice Chancellor Quits After Video Surfaces Of Meeting With Russian Investor

Austria's vice chancellor has resigned after German media published a video that purportedly showed him offering government contracts to a woman posing as the niece of a Russian oligarch, in exchange for media coverage and political funding.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/18/724580640/austrias-vice-chancellor-quits-after-video-surfaces-of-meeting-with-russian-inve

Tommy Robinson: Salvini shows far-right agenda attainable

Tommy Robinson has said Matteo Salvini, the anti-Islam Italian minister accused of targeting refugees, had shown what was attainable from pursuing far-right policies.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/18/tommy-robinson-salvini-shows-far-right-agenda-attainable

‘Making an example of us’: French journalists face jail for exposing govt lies about Yemen war

French journalists are being threatened with jail time for reporting on leaked documents revealing the country’s complicity in the US-Saudi war in Yemen after they refused to answer questions from anti-terror police.

https://www.rt.com/news/459644-french-journalists-leaks-yemen/

India’s multi-phase election concludes

The last leg in India’s multi-phase election to decide the composition of the Lok Sabha, the lower and more important house of India’s bicameral parliament, will be held Sunday, with voters going to the polls in 59 of the 543 Lok Sabha constituencies.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/05/18/indi-m18.html

Right-wing Australian politician who blamed Muslims for Christchurch mosque attack loses seat

The anti-immigration politician egged by a teenage boy earlier this year has lost his seat in the Australian parliament following the country’s federal election.Fraser Anning, who sparked outrage when he said Muslim immigration was to blame for the New Zealand mosque shootings, has been defeated in his bid to return to the Senate.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/australia-election-fraser-anning-new-zealand-mosque-egg-boy-loses-seat-a8919911.html

The Trump administration has already built its case for Iran war

President Donald Trump may not need Congress to go to war with Iran.That's the case his lieutenants have been quietly building as tensions between the two nations have escalated.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-administration-has-already-built-its-case-iran-war-n1007281

https://archive.is/qjYLK

Libya: Haftar Calls for the People to Rebel in Tripoli

The Libyan National Army (LNA) commander, Khalifa Haftar, is trying to incite a revolt in Tripoli amid signs of popular agitation against the Tripoli-based National Accord Government (GNA), headed by Prime Minister Fayez Al-Serraj and backed by the United Nations.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Libya-Haftar-Calls-for-the-People-to-Rebel-in-Tripoli-20190518-0007.html

Revealed: air pollution may be damaging ‘every organ in the body’

Air pollution may be damaging every organ and virtually every cell in the human body, according to a comprehensive new global review.The research shows head-to-toe harm, from heart and lung disease to diabetes and dementia, and from liver problems and bladder cancer to brittle bones and damaged skin. Fertility, foetuses and children are also affected by toxic air, the review found.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2019/may/17/air-pollution-may-be-damaging-every-organ-and-cell-in-the-body-finds-global-review

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Gilets jaunes / Yellow vests general

This time with a French OP. Can we get a cycling thread for as long as the crisis is ongoing?

Also as a Frenchman, I can probably answer any questions you guys might have.

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I want to amuse myself so im requesting for any debunking or refutation of this book or other books by the same author.

I recently read "better and better",and while I criticize it's opposition to slavery and adhesion to homosexuality,the data is solid and the arguments sound.

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Alright you fucking commies, you seem to be the only faction in western politics that can identify the bourgeois menace but I'm extremely sceptical of the remedy you prescribe. No matter how much I read I cannot get a satisfying answer as to why historical materialism should be considered any more valid than idealism or how exactly the retarded working class of today can be expected to actually revolt against their masters when they seem more than happy to just accept their slavery in exchange for a new phone every year. "False consciousness" just seems to be a massive cope rather than a satisfying explanation.

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Think Tanks

Why are their no left-wing think tanks? Think tanks are very useful in influencing public opine, just look at how powerful right-wing ones are. Their needs to be left-wing think tanks.

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Anthropology thread or some shit

A lot of the American culture was manufactured with the sole intent of capitalist consumption. The most obvious example of this is bacon, which was elevated into an American cult icon by the food industry. The suburbs are beyond shit for residents but are imagined to be the housing goal of many young couples.

Are there any examples of this manufactured culture in your country? Should we fight against it, coopt it or just let it be?

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/dprk/ -- North Korea General

Thread for discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Disproving common western myths about North Korea.

Archive of first ~500 posts:

https://archive.fo/pRkxK

Subsequent archives:

https://archive.fo/OKKCX

Related archives:

https://archive.fo/HbuXi

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Moderation Thread

Direct all hotpocket related inquiries here.

mod action log:

https://8ch.net/log.php?board=leftypol

https://8ch.net/bans.html

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You shout "HOOTIE HOO" to alert those around you of pig activity, dont you anon?

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>There are communists who concede on "muh holodomor"

>There are communists who concede on "muh gorillions"

>There are communists who concede on "muh starvations"

>There are communists who concede on "muh ebil Katyn"

>There are communists who concede on "muh secret police"

>There are communists who concede on "muh ebil Bolsheviks"

>There are communists who concede on the The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact

>There are communists who concede on "muh USSR aggression"

>There are communists who unironically state "not real communism"

I really hope none of you anons do this around people

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News 5/17/19

German parliament declares Israel boycott campaign antisemitic

Germany’s Bundestag has become the first parliament in Europe to pass a motion labelling the boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement against Israel as antisemitic.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/17/german-parliament-declares-israel-boycott-campaign-antisemitic

Canada’s government uses bogus “foreign interference” claims to expand censorship ahead of federal election

Canada’s Liberal government has issued a series of inflammatory warnings about the alleged danger of “foreign interference” in the country’s federal election due this October. This reactionary campaign has the twin aims of legitimizing censorship of social media and the internet and whipping up hostility against Russia, which Ottawa, like its longstanding partner Washington.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/05/17/cens-m17.html

Jeremy Corbyn pulls out of Brexit talks in major blow to Theresa May's hopes of passing a deal

Jeremy Corbyn has pulled out of Brexit talks with Theresa May in a major blow to the prime minister's hopes of passing a Brexit deal.

https://www.businessinsider.com/jeremy-corbyn-pulls-out-of-brexit-talks-with-theresa-may-deal-labour-conservatives-vote-2019-5

Iran’s short-range missile can reach US fleet in Gulf – Revolutionary Guards deputy commander

The deputy commander of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards has said that the US fleet in the Gulf is already within striking distance of his country’s short range missiles, adding that the US could not sustain a new war in the region.

https://www.rt.com/news/459575-iran-missiles-us-tension/

Jack Renshaw: MP death plot neo-Nazi jailed for life

A neo-Nazi who planned to murder Labour MP Rosie Cooper in a terrorist attack has been jailed for life.Jack Renshaw, 23, from Skelmersdale, Lancashire, must serve at least 20 years in prison.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lancashire-48306380

Indian soldier leaked sensitive info to Pakistani ‘honey pot’ on Facebook

An Indian Army clerk has been arrested for passing information on troop movements and military exercises to a Pakistani spy on Facebook and WhatsApp and may have been paid for his betrayal, authorities say.

https://www.rt.com/news/459549-indian-army-leak-honeypot-pakistan/

Release Prof Saibaba unconditionally: TVV demands

Karimnagar: The representatives of Telangana Vidyarthi Vedika (TVV) demanded unconditional release of Delhi University Professor GN Saibaba, who has been sentenced to central jail in Nagpur. They staged a protest by covering their mouths with black ribbons in front of Satavahana University in Karimnagar on Monday.

https://www.redspark.nu/en/peoples-war/release-prof-saibaba-unconditionally-tvv-demands/

Chile: SICAR Agents Charged with Sex Crimes Against Women During Dictatorship

Chile's Court of Appeals Minister Mario Carroza, has charged Manuel Agustin Muñoz Gamboa with the aggravated kidnapping of two women who were detained and tortured by agents of the Intelligence Service of Carabineros (SICAR) during former dictator Agosto Pinochet's regime.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Chile-SICAR-Agents-Charged-with-Sex-Crimes-Against-Women-During-Dictatorship-20190517-0012.html

Josu Ternera, leader of Eta Basque rebels, arrested in France

The political leader of the Basque separatist group Eta has been arrested in the French Alps after 17 years on the run, officials say.In a joint French-Spanish police operation, Josu Ternera - whose real name is José Antonio Urrutikoetxea - was arrested in Sallanches.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48293187

Oil Spill Seeping Into Gulf Of Mexico Contained After 14 Years, Coast Guard Says

An ongoing oil spill that has been leaking into the Gulf of Mexico for more than 14 years is finally being contained, the U.S. Coast Guard announced on Thursday.The Taylor Energy oil spill began after Hurricane Ivan triggered an underwater mudslide in 2004 that caused the company's oil platform to topple and sink.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/16/724164873/oil-spill-seeping-into-gulf-of-mexico-contained-after-14-years-coast-guard-says

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Current state of left-wing insurgencies

Which armed left-wing rebel groups have the best prospects for seizing power?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_left-wing_rebel_groups#List_of_active_groups

Looks like only the various Apoist factions in Turkey, Syria, and Iraq have a substantial number of forces. Other than that, there seems to have been a major retreat in the past few decades.

FARC in Colombia made peace with the government. The ELN is still fighting in the jungles, but they say they are also looking for a way out of the conflict.

Naxalites have been declining. Their numbers are much lower than they used to be a few decades ago.

Shining Path suffered severe setbacks due to Fujimori's death squads and the capture of their leader. They are down to a few hundred guys who are more drug traffickers than revolutionaries. Their main thing now is protecting poor farmers' coca plantations from Peruvian police and military forces.

The Apoists are doing really well, relatively speaking. But I'm not sure if their success is sustainable. The US can at any moment throw them under the bus to please Erdogan.

NPA is doing alright, but they still have a long ways to go before they could hope to overthrow the Filipino government. Are they our best hope?

The West is totally lacking in any revolutionary currents, except for maybe France. Are there any circumstances in which the Yellow Vests could seize control of the French state apparatus?

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/infographic/

Post all your anti-conservative/anti-/pol/ infographics ITT

Include anything on holocaust denial, jewish bolshevism, nazi economics, race realism etc.

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Greetings from a Board less Sheltered

I was recently banned from this board and have only returned after getting permission from a friend to use his devise

(feel free to ban him as well if you wish, i very much doubt he will ever try to post on here of his own volition)

And I was banned previously, largely for expressing ideas that did not mesh with the orthodoxy of the board

Ideas that were to say, not leftist, at least in Marxist sense of the word.

And this is largely becuase, i myself am not a Marxist.

I am instead a Not Socialist, and you largely are not.

And this is infact the point which vexes me.

For most of you do not seem unintelligent to me, many of you are infact quite well read and well versed in most of the sociopolitical and economic view points which you collectively espouse.

I suspect many of you even have larger academic achievements in your respective fields, having dedicated over half a decade of study to the given subject matter.

And this is what seems some what logically impossible to me

For if you had studied deeply into of said fields,

including even a basis study of Marxist theory

You should have logically come to the position of Not Socialism.

I sense this assertion needs evidence, or rather explanation so will provide you with it.

If you studied biology then you would have learned that man is first and fore most a darwinstic creature

The function and nature of all said life being to reproduce as much of their genes as phisically possible in an attempt to outcompete other genes

It is in this way certain genes are determined superior or inferior

It is likewise your function as a creature working in a darwinistic world to help those with genes similar to you to out compete those with genes less similar to you

This assertion would have led to Not Socialism as the ultimate philosophical conclusion

If you studied economics in depth you would learn of the cancer of interest bearing debt backed fiat currency and this would have led you to the obvious state of the abolishment of central banks, and perhaps even currency being the backing of capitalist system and markets themselves

This in turn may have led you to marxism. Where, it should have at least also led you to Not Socialism.

Because any serious study of the history of marxism would have led you to understand that almost every communist regime that is plagued with atrocity (USSR, (bolshivic) spain, even red china) largely did so by the presence of a small ethnic group which saught power over the ideal of equality amoung the working class

Bolshivism

As even Chompsky admits, is a "right wing" and power consentrated corruption of marxism which does not allow for any of the ideals either the russian revolution or spanish civil war were fought on

This is in obvious stark contrast to "marxist leaders" like Castro or Kim Il-sung who founded largely nationalistic and socialistic regiems (Which did not allow the admittence of said ethnic group into their state)

Simply put, Not Socialism is a form of socialism that deals with almost all the flaws in marxism

And updates it to a modern and scientifically accurate understanding of evolution.

It does not allow cabals or cartels to gain power over the ethnic proletariat of the country.

And unifys the previously bourgeoisie with the people allowing administrative skills to be preserved without preserving the exploitation common under capitalism.

In simple terms lefty pol

why havent you taken the redpill yet?

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/leftpol/

BO forgot the point of /leftypol/ was initially to offer refuge, to those who went to imageboards for refuge from forums which literally had less discussion than we did like Reddit with it's constant virtue posts and memes being op's instead of replies or dedicated to one thread, and revleft which was so Marxist-Divisive dominated they couldn't discuss jack shit without major attacks over who was right breaking out over and over again, /leftypol/ and /leftpol/ managed to have booming book club discussions, and issue discussions that neither Reddit nor other places could have, if shitposting is a problem for you why not attack /r/Chapotraphouse and half of the Reddit left? They shitpost more than we do. /leftypol/ got worse and worse the moment it became popular to bring more people like the one's above in by marketing itself not as a place for different discussions than what the left had instead just another leftist discussion area. You want high quality? Re start the book club, hell even organize, protesting especially one on one is easier to do than mass party funded shit that alerts the pigs before you even get there which is presumably the "Efficiency" BO was talking about.

Yes Jim and the others are terrible administrators but what can you do about it, the last few truly free imageboards are all dedicated to cp, and Overchan died before anyone got to it, because everyone treated it as a bunker.

Overall I feel new /leftypol/ and BO have missed the point of everything entirely, but to be fair I don't believe they ever understood it, /leftypol/ was entirely built by users, the mods never fully supported them, everyone keeps bitching over nazbols while also forgetting that /leftypol/ also anchored their threads and let them stay up for ages often times as we did. Is /leftypol/ and Reddit currently actually stopping anyone or furthering leftism?

Has anyone even done anything for leftism in the past few fucking years? All I can remember is:

>Ancom fails suicide bombing only kills self

>Antifa technically hit a few people, and shut up Milo and Rich–

Oh wait that's right /pol/ always hated Milo for being gay, and called Richard Spencer a crypto-Jew along with TRS a bunch of posers ruining their movement. So if anything Antifa literally did /pol/ a favor silencing people who could be considered the Trotsky to their Stalin.

So the entire left has done fuck all except kill themselves in failure for the past few years, and anything that shows potential like R.ojava will always be put down by the Anglo's once they begin to """stabilize""" the region. And even then R.ojava is a commune nation not one that could ever go beyond.

Counter this with the right which has grown in mass numbers and has had major operations.

Counter this with the real right and the US Government, a literal fascist empire could potentially be building a secret space force ensuring the survival of capitalism and fascism far into the future, forever cementing the struggle as eternal, but even worse ensuring that if socialism wins, the universe itself will forever be a varying pool of ideologies.

We've literally done absolutely nothing, even minor protests like the last few Natives in Canada being massacred are going unheard and doomed to fail.

But sure point us out as the worst of the left. Tell us that just because we had a few Nazbols which /leftypol/ also had that we're the failures.

/leftypol/ can shove their opinion up their ass.

Just kidding that would be implying you retards actually do anything except shitpost, circlejerk in /leftytrash/, or have the 350th "Guys I can no understandu Mooks and Das Kapital" thread where it takes 15 posts for them to finally come to an understanding over basic Marxist theory because none of them ever fucking read Marx.

Ya motherfuckers.

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How important was Trotsky in the Revolution and counter-revolution?

I’m pretty sure I know the answer but I wanted to get a sense of what this shithole site thinks.

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Spicy opinions

Post your spicy lefty opinions

Here's mine

Dengism is right

Democratic centralism is shit. Rosa was right

Trot doesn't deserve the hate, even though his plans were retarded

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/r/ChapoTrapHouse getting banned reminded me how fishhook theory is the dumbest Reddit meme, another instance of fascism being hollowed out and wildly applied to anything and everything the Redditor hates. Closely related is the "liberals will always side with fascism" meme, which anyone familiar with the Second World War or Popular Front governments would find questionable. Why does there exist this compulsive need to identify the primary antagonist of our time as "fascists", to constantly present that we're always refighting the Spanish Civil War?

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Race """Realism"""

List of reading material on Intelligence, Genes and Race Realism

https://pastebin.com/3RtVm4zb

https://www.mediafire.com/file/c7hhnmsu8je27ws/Reading+material+on+genetics%2C+intelligence%2C+crime+and+race.pdf

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Strasserism

Please tell me all the downsides of Asserism.

And can you tell me all the differences between Asserism and Socialism?

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Libertarian socialist federated semi-direct democracy in Rojava, Syria

Your thoughts on one big US military base in Syria?

how long do you think it'll last?

also, what is your opinion about their ideology and the system they have set up? is it close to true anarchism as some leftists say?

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Aftermath of the Zizek vs Peterson debate

Now that the dust is starting to settle, what do you think we should do to capitalize on this debate?

Here are my impressions of how various people are viewing it:

>Peterson got BTFO by Zizek who showed the audience how intellectually unprepared Peterson was to talk about the topics

This view is prominent among the leftist circles on Youtube, especially clearly seen in the comments section of Muke's video of the debate.

>it wasn't a debate, it was a civil discussion between two intellectuals who agree a lot with each other

I can see this in the comments section of the most popular video of the debate. I think this is how most regular people are framing the debate.

>this "debate" was a disgrace and the "intellectuals" who participated in it should be ashamed of themselves

I've seen a couple of articles describing the debate this way. I think they're correct but I don't think they know that Zizek fully intended never to debate in an academic manner, instead opting to win over Peterson's fans through SLICK ENTRYISM. I think Zizek pulled this off masterfully (which shocked me, he was more coherent than usual and completely controlled the debate).

How should leftists on Youtube approach this in order to win over people and get them interested in leftist thought? Of course there's the angle of showing how much Peterson is a hack and how he badly he did in the debate but there's another angle to consider.

Take that moment in the debate when Peterson was listening to Zizek as if he's fascinated by him. That I think is representative of some of Peterson's fans who just got introduced to Zizek who was expecting someone else entirely, probably some caricature of a marxist. If we play our cards right and approach in a friendly manner, showing how much we hate the idpol obsessed SJWs and how they're not representative of our side I think we have a good chance of winning people over.

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against idpol

On the off chance that anyone pro-idpol is reading this, please give it a chance and let me explain my reasoning before you put me in a box of being a 'brocialist'. I will admit not being as familiar with the work of intersectional theorists like Crenshaw as I should be.

These are my thoughts.

Here on anti-identitarian left, we dislike IDPOL. But the reasons for this are far more nuanced than are usually given credit for. The pro-idpol person reading this probably imagines that the anti idpol leftist is some white macho dudebro who is a barely reformed fashie that likes the economic parts of socialism only because they affect him personally, and doesn't have enough empathy or is ignorant of the struggles of other groups. And to be sure, there actually are some people that match that description and use 'anti idpol' as cover to be a douche. That is wrong. Racial discrimination is wrong. Homophobia is wrong. Bigotry in general is wrong. We all agree to this at least in principle on the left.

But that doesn't excuse problems with identity politics on the left.

1. Corporate Co-opting. When we see Colin Capernick getting nike endorsements, feminism being viewed positively by mainstream media outlets, etc. We can see that wokeness and corporate capitalism are not incompatible. that is not to say that feminism etc. are bad, but just that they do not challenge the system in as deep of a way. Indeed, if you look at many pride parades today its difficult to even tell that acceptance of and visibility for LGBT+ is the goal of the parade, or rather the glorification of the tech industry, as you see the marchers holding up signs that say INTEL, MICROSOFT, APPLE. You can have (and often do) major corporations endorse feminism and lgbt+ issues wheras amazon would obviously never endorse a march to increase the minimum wage or pro-union. This is the sort of "woke neoliberalism" epitomized by people such as Hillary Clinton and the tumblr crowd - The Californian ideology. Sex, Drugs, and fiscal conservatism.

>fulltext: https://www.supremereality.us/home/thread?id=idpol-and-the-anti-idpol-left

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We banning people on supposed mental illnesses these days?

Got shit ton of vpn servers so BAN ME AGAIN ILL BE BACK!!! Want others comments banned to? Becuase you authoritarian fuckfaces cant handle a based schizo?

>inb4 ban because mods feeling were hurt

^^^^

When i switch vpns proving thats true itll to funny.

Just because theres a stigma around schizophrenics doesnt mean were all poltards

WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE

GOOD NIGHT!!!

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Steps to take in regards to climate change

Scientist to politicians: End oil, farm subsidies to save planet

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-un-environment-biodiversity-scientist/scientist-to-politicians-end-oil-farm-subsidies-to-save-planet-idUSKCN1SC1TI

This guy wants to remove subsidies for farming, mining, fishing and fossil fuel sectors but doesn't really elaborate. Mining and fossil fuel, alright, but what about mining? Cut back on mineral extraction (unlikely) or artificially synthesize materials (seems hard) or what? And fishing – what is to be done with this industry? Have people move to different diets and stop eating fish? How else could the farming, mining, fishing and fossil fuel industries be improved to be environmentally-conscious?

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Hey /leftypol/, new lurker here. I don't really feel like I fit in with the left or right and I've had trouble finding a community that shares my views. I don't know what you would really call my ideology. I am economically communist, elitist / paternalist, not biologically racist, anti-feminist, against sex work, progressive leaning on LGBT issues, and a neo-luddite. Zizek, Christopher Lasch, and the Frankfurt School are some of my favorite lefty theorists outside of the typical Marxist canon. Is this board a good place for me, and would you welcome me as a comrade in the fight against capitalism and liberal fun?

t. Special Snowflake

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News 5/16/19

Police with battering ram raid Venezuelan Embassy in DC & arrest anti-coup activists (VIDEOS)

After spending over a month camped out in the embassy, the final four activists of the Venezuelan Embassy Protection Collective have been placed under arrest after police broke down doors and entered the premises on Thursday.

https://www.rt.com/news/459511-police-raid-venezuelan-embassy-dc/

Theresa May agrees to set timetable to choose successor

Theresa May has promised to set a timetable for the election of her successor after the next Brexit vote in the first week of June.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48290760

Australia's 'larrikin' former prime minister Bob Hawke dies at 89

Bob Hawke, a transformative and charismatic left-wing lawmaker with a “larrikin’ streak who served as Australian prime minister from 1983 to 1991, died on Thursday aged 89, his family said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-politics-election-hawke/former-australian-prime-minister-bob-hawke-dies-at-89-idUSKCN1SM0Z7

'We owe nothing’: Poland brings up reparations from Berlin but says ‘NO’ to Jewish restitution

Warsaw has refused to compensate Jewish families for the property they lost during WWII, and said that Germany owes Poland up to a ‘trillion’ in reparations.“The Polish position is firm and clear: we don’t owe anything to anybody,” the government’s spokesperson, Joanna Kopcinska, stressed during an interview on a local radio station on Thursday.

https://www.rt.com/news/459486-polish-government-restitution-remarks/

'He wants power': how Salvini kept changing his message to reach his ultimate goal

As Italy’s deputy PM prepares to gather Europe’s far-right in Milan those who know him fear he’s taking country down a dangerous path

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/16/matteo-salvini-the-far-right-zelig-of-italian-politics

British daytime talk show canceled after guest death

British broadcaster ITV has permanently canceled a highly-rated daytime reality show on Wednesday after a guest on the program died one week after failing a lie detector test on the show."The Jeremy Kyle Show," which ran for more than 14 years, was taken off the air after Steve Dymond, 63, was found dead on May 9 in his home in Portsmouth, UK.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/443827-british-daytime-talk-show-canceled-after-guest-death

https://archive.is/4Qibp

Corbyn hits out at millionaires who 'fly about in private jets and heat empty mansions'

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has taken aim at corporate ‘green measures’ designed at a cost to the taxpayer.The Opposition leader said the cost of ‘saving the planet falls on’ the public - and criticised how the upper classes waste money and energy.

https://news.yahoo.com/corbyn-hits-out-at-millionaires-who-fly-about-in-private-jets-and-heat-their-empty-mansions-125908367.html

https://archive.is/qpGSw

France hosts “Christchurch call” summit to intensify internet censorship

The international “Christchurch call” summit held Wednesday in Paris, hosted by French President Emmanuel Macron and New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinta Ardern, marked a further step in the drive by the world’s capitalist governments and the corporate technology giants to censor social media and muzzle rising social opposition in the working class and among young people.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/05/16/chri-m16.html

Brazil's Students Plan Another Massive Strike Against Bolsonaro

The far-right politician's disqualification of protesters, who were branded as idiots and dolts, fueled a new cycle of unstoppable demonstrations, local observers anticipate.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Brazils-Students-Plan-Another-Massive-Strike-Against-Bolsonaro-20190516-0012.html

414 million pieces of plastic found on remote island group in Indian Ocean

A comprehensive survey of debris on the islands – among the most remote places on Earth, in the Indian Ocean – has found a staggering amount of rubbish washed ashore. This included 414m pieces of plastic, weighing 238 tonnes.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/may/16/414-million-pieces-of-plastic-found-on-remote-island-group-in-indian-ocean

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Marxism is a right wing ideology and they are not real communists. They created societies based on slavery to the state that were infinitely more worse than anything capitalism was before it. You cannot achieve communism with the total opposite of it and thats why you fail.

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Chinese Aid arrives in Venezuela

>Chinese cargo plane arrives in Venezuela

(CNN) A Chinese cargo plane arrived in the Venezuelan capital of Caracas on Monday, the Venezuelan Ministry of Communication has told CNN.

The plane was carrying aid for the impoverished nation: approximately 2 million units of medical equipment, including medicine and surgical medical supplies. The supplies will be distributed by agencies designated by the government of embattled President Nicolas Maduro.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/13/americas/chinese-aid-arrives-in-venezuela-intl/index.html

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Is capitalist wageslaving the ultimate cuckoldry?

I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than wageslaving. Honestly, think about it logically. Day in day out, week to week, year after year. You are slaving away the prime years of your life to retirement age solely so someone else can profit off your work. All the hard work you put into your product or service, the sweat and tears of working countless hours, all the education, applications, and work put into getting to where you are now. All of it has one simple result: some chadCEO gets to profit off your hardwork.

Did your work perfectly without complaints, trying to play up the promotional ladder? Great, if you're lucky maybe you'll be promoted to manager. But the man who did nothing to get to where he is now besides being born to the right attractive and rich parents with their connections now gets to share in your profit while doing nothing, and he ends up paying less taxes. There he is entertaining other rich shareholders on his yacht diddling little kids while they hoard their riches off-shore where it's tax-free and just sitting in a bank doing nothing.

As a wageslave cuck, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 40+ years until retirement age of your life simply to funnel money to the rich while you struggle to live day to day. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Just think about it

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>"big class struggle marxist"

>berates construction workers

>"till after the election"

<her "marxism" is just Trump Derangement Syndrome

par for the course for you losers, eh?

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List of reasons 8chan hates us.

>we read too much

>we write too many words on our "memes"

>we support israel and hate men

>we're jewish

>we hate religion but also we're jewish

>we're responsible for people starving

>we use too many black and white pictures

>we're pseudointellectuals because we enjoy reading and writing about political theory

>we're transgender, all of us

>we don't hate black people

>we don't obsess over pictures of dicks on /b2/

>we're too violent, even for /pol/ who want to gas enemy races for fun

>we're simultaneously weak physically and basically all around gay, but too strong and our postmodern neomarxism has taken over the world

>we're dumb and we can't meme

Can we have a thread discussing these issues?

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/anarkiddie/

Now that BO is resigning, I guess the insistence on an ML only board is gone, can we at least bring back the anarchists?

Even though I severely disagree with them on many issues at least they made good shitposts and memes, as well as boosting the numbers on the board.

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News 5/15/19

Iran will defeat U.S.-Israeli alliance, says defense minister

Iran’s military commanders said on Wednesday the Islamic Republic was on the verge of an all-out confrontation with its enemies and was ready to counter any threat.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran/iran-will-defeat-the-american-and-israeli-alliance-iran-defense-minister-idUSKCN1SL1AK

‘No one in Europe’ wants second Iraq: Austrian president slams ‘provocative’ US Iran policy

The US’ reckless maximum pressure campaign against Tehran and nations dealing with it is deeply provocative and hurts international relations, Austrian President Alexander Van der Bellen said, warning against a major “crisis.”

https://www.rt.com/news/459433-austria-president-us-iran-iraq/

Sudan crisis: Military and opposition agree three-year transition

Sudan's military leaders have announced an agreement with the opposition alliance for a three-year transition period to a civilian administration.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-48276764

'Duterte magic' secures controversial Philippines president victory at midterms

The Philippines’ controversial president Rodrigo Duterte appears to have secured a resounding victory in mid-term elections that were billed as a referendum on his hardline, authoritarian rule.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/philippines-election-result-duterte-midterms-constitution-death-penalty-a8913126.html

Nearly 50 Palestinians wounded in 'Catastrophe' anniversary protests on Gaza-Israel border

Israeli troops wounded nearly 50 Palestinians at the Gaza border on Wednesday during protests to mark the 71st anniversary of the “Nakba”, or catastrophe, when many Palestinians lost their homes in the fighting around Israel’s creation, Gaza officials said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-palestinians-nakba/nearly-50-palestinians-wounded-in-catastrophe-anniversary-protests-on-gaza-israel-border-idUSKCN1SL1TP

Choco Leibniz biscuit heiress apologies over Nazi-era labour comments

The heiress of a German biscuit company has apologised for saying the firm "did nothing wrong" in its use of forced labour during Nazi rule.Verena Bahlsen, 25, had been accused of being "oblivious to history" and the company had distanced itself from her comments.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48286383

UK Tory government maintains benefit sanctions as misery and deaths continue

Last week, an inquest in North Wales recorded a verdict of suicide in the case of an 81-year-old woman left virtually penniless after the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) froze her pension payments.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/05/15/welf-m15.html

Merkel: Europe must unite to stand up to China, Russia and US

“There is no doubt that Europe needs to reposition itself in a changed world,” Merkel said in a conversation in her office in Berlin. “The old certainties of the post-war order no longer apply.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/angela-merkel-interview-europe-eu-unite-challenge-us-russia-china

Guaido’s ‘envoy’ set to meet Pentagon officials to plan ways of bringing ‘democracy’ to Venezuela

A representative of the Venezuelan opposition leader in the US will meet members of the Southern Command next week to discuss strategy for regime change in the Latin American country, Juan Guaido has confirmed.

https://www.rt.com/news/459359-guaido-southcom-meeting-venezuela/

'We Don't Know a Planet Like This': CO2 Levels Hit 415 PPM for First Time in 3 Million+ Years

Atmospheric levels of carbon registered 415 parts per million over the weekend at one of the world's key measuring stations, a concentration level researchers say has not existed in more than 3 million years – before the dawn of human history.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/05/13/we-dont-know-planet-co2-levels-hit-415-ppm-first-time-3-million-years

Colombia: Special Tribunal JEP Rejects Extradition of FARC Leader Jesus Santrich, Orders His Release

Jesus Santrich is accused by the United States of running a drug operation in Colombia, which he and his FARC party flatly deny.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Colombia-Special-Tribunal-JEP-Rejects-Extradition-of-FARC-Leader-Jesus-Santrich-Orders-His-Release-20190515-0011.html

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Why do some socialists advocate only for the erradication of financial capital when there exist other forms of capital, such as social, intellectual, physical, cultural, sexual and many others? What makes financial capital the very first target and many times the only one?

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Uber Strike May 8th

Don’t use Uber or Lyft on May 8th. And don’t be a fucking scab either. This strike is really important.

https://workersolidarity.net

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For anyone who isn't redpilled on the Tibet issue yet:

http://english.qstheory.cn/magazine/200901/201109/t20110919_111202.htm

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What can be done with reactionaries who claim to be leftists but are clearly not? For example those who are against feminism, still support the spook of the Family or are against abolishing gender.

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peterson vs truth

Often on the left we complain that the modern right doesn’t really engage Marx on his ideas. But its not just Marx, its really any ideas left of center (or any idea that cant be put into a meme, infographic, or be shouted at them by a youtube personality).

The reason Jordan Peterson doesn’t read Marx is because he has a pragmatist epistemology – it is ‘true‘ if it produces a society of human flourishing. Once you understand this is the angle JP is coming from, his insane position of not needing to read and/or understand the ideas of his opponents to ‘know that they are wrong’ makes sense. Marxism produced stalinism and the gorillions, therefore not only is it morally wrong, but it is FALSE in the Petersonian sense. It doesn’t matter if Marx literally wrote angelic prose, and tomes of wisdom which extended human intellectual understanding to the star trek age (and for all Peterson knows, he very well could have, as hes never read Marx outside the communist manifesto, ONCE, as part of his debate with Zizek). Because Marx’s thoughts (or at least what he thinks are Marx’s thoughts) lead to bad consequences, they must be UNTRUE. The actual content of what Marx said, advocated, or theorized is irrelevant - hes wrong either way.

Obviously this is not compatible with a scientific materialist worldview. If faced with the old “if a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it still fall?” question, Peterson would really be forced to say that the statement “the tree fell” is untrue because the tree falling or not falling didnt directly help human flourishing either way. As far as the crazy archetypes he believes in, they are simply unnecessary to explain history or society and a simple application of occams razor should suffice for that. Also his ideas of Chaos versus Order are really tautological since every time people accuse him of using his preference for order over chaos to shit on feminism, etc. He and his fans just say well chaos is good sometimes too. Saying that society is made up of two things that are both equally important and are needed at different times is literally contributing nothing.

Now as for why his fans dislike Marx and subscribe to this idea: simply, they are dunning krugers who are too lazy to read and think about ideas deeply and just want a daddy with a veneer of academic respectability to tell them the people/ideas they are already predisposed to hate are bad.

Marx = gorillions and also SJWs = Marx and theyre all bad. A huge portion of the rational skeptic crowd switched from LE LOGIC N SCIENCE meme to petersonism so quickly you would get whiplash.

They could go from logic and rationality one second, to crazy jungian dragons and witches the next, without a second thought about how these two things are diametrically opposed, simply because they are using “retcon reasoning”. They have a conclusion in search of an answer, and just want to be validated in their hating of SJWS. If logic, science, and rationality owns the libs one day, then thats good. If they have a new meme that owns the sjws now, even better. They really need to just admit that it was never about logic, reason, and rationality, it was about the need of guys with mediocre intelligence and a lot of free time to win arguments on the internet and look superior by any means or intellectual gymnastics necessary. They simply want their preconceived ideas validated by someone, and they don’t really care what line of thought that person uses to get there.

Say what you want about the ancaps and their libertarian icons of Mises, Hayek, and Bahm-Bawerk. As much as they straw-manned and misunderstood Marx, at least they had the decency to try to read Marx, or at least pretend like they had read him.

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<B-b-b-but muh capitalism made me free!!!! Now I work less thanks to technology supplied by muh boss

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Questioning the how scientific Marxist theory is.

Has Marx or anyone else addressed these problems with Marxist theory?

Looking at history, Marxist dialectic Slave society>feudalism>capitalism>socialism>communism

the problem with this is that the theory presents communism as an inevitability however it is a prediction based specific data points from the past not proven.

So ultimately this is unfalsifiable.

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Feds showing up to 8ch users' doorsteps now

/pol/ users openly establishing friendly relationships with the FBI (provided the vids are real).

https://8ch.net/pol/res/13206129.html (more videos ITT)

This is getting really bad now, nobody here is involved in terrorism like /pol/ is, but the feds are hardcore anti-communists. It's getting really dangerous to post here.

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Hidden Agenda-derived forum game

Not sure how many anons here ever played Hidden Agenda, a DOS game from 1988. The story is set in a fictional Central American country where a right-wing dictator has been overthrown and the left, right and center (ie succdems) are angling to form a new government.

There is a forum game that just started loosely based off of the game. Link: http://eregime.org/index.php?c=59

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Is anarchism the opposite of socialism?

I have always considered anarchism to be an ideology that falls under the umbrella of socialism. But I was reading an old egoist zine and found this:

>Since, for socialists in general, the economic question is paramount–every problem tending to be reduced to the abolition of capitalism and the establishment of socialism–there is one belief which all socialists, from Statists to libertarian communists, share, and that is the belief in the need to put the ownership or control of the means of production into the hands of some collective body, be it the government or “society”. Socialism above all is, as Auguste Hamon has said, a “social system in which — a social doctrine by which — the means of production are socialized”. It is my argument that this wish to make society the owner and provider of the means of life is to put new authority over the individual in place of the old and is therefore not anarchism. Anarchism stands for leaving each individual free to provide for himself what he needs and is therefore not a complement of socialism but its opposite. It follows that those anarchists who think that anarchism is a form of socialism are deluding themselves and sooner or later will have to choose between them, for they cannot logically be both.

http://blog.fair-use.org/2014/04/04/anarchism-versus-socialism/

and this statement makes sense to me, it seems coherent and reasoned. But yet it goes against everything I've come to assume of anarchism. So what is it?

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Judeo–Bolshevism isnt a arguement against communism!!!

The Right had stopped trying us with economics!!!!

They are 100% idpol

There main arguments are communism is the death of the white race and done by joos! We consistently hand them their asses on economics (less and less are embracing capitalism) this is shown by the embracing of the use and rhetoric of socialism in not-socialism(national-socialism)

When will the right relize this isnt a argument (ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HATE ISREAL AND ZIONIST PASSIONATELY)

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How fundamental is imperialism to the capitalist New World Order?

Is imperialism something the bourgeoisie MUST engage in? Meaning, without regular imperialist invasions and coups, would the entire global economic system collapse completely?

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Black Marxism vs Intersectionalism

I am new to the left.

The main way I engage with the black working class is through intersectional politics. I cite authors like Bell Hooks as inspiration.

What should I know about Marxism and its relationship to black working class struggle. Should we be race blind? Push for universal class demands?

I notice that most socialist groups in my city, including the Democrat Cops of America is made up of either middle class people or people with an academic background. The people of color there tend not to be representative of working class blacks.

I want to have a Marxist analysis on movements like Black Lives Matter and how to better recruit new black socialists into my socialist organization.

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News 5/14/19

Theresa May faces ultimatum: set your exit date or quit now

Executive members of the 1922 Committee are preparing to ask Theresa May to step down immediately if she fails to set out a timetable for leaving Downing Street.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/14/theresa-may-faces-ultimatum-set-your-exit-date-or-quit-now

Drone attack on Saudi oil pipeline claimed by Houthis as questions linger over 'ship sabotage'

Yemen's Houthi rebels attacked a major oil pipeline in Saudi Arabia with explosive-laden drones on Tuesday, just days after an alleged sabotage of Saudi oil tankers off the coast of the United Arab Emirates.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-oil-pipeline-attack-drone-yemen-houthi-iran-uae-a8913556.html

Spain pulls frigate from U.S. Gulf mission amid differences over Iran

Spain has withdrawn a frigate from a U.S.-led naval group in the Gulf because it was now focusing on alleged threats from Iran rather than an agreed objective to mark an historic seafaring anniversary, the Spanish government said on Tuesday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-spain/spain-pulls-frigate-from-us-gulf-mission-amid-iran-differences-idUSKCN1SK106

WhatsApp claims spyware attack has ‘all hallmarks’ of Israeli company that aides govt surveillance

A WhatsApp spyware attack that targeted human rights activists has clear links to a company known to help governments snoop, the messaging app firm said in a statement. Israeli firm NSO is accused of being behind the exploit.

https://www.rt.com/news/459322-whatsapp-israel-govt-spyware/

Venezuela top court accuses more lawmakers of treason as congress building blocked

Venezuela’s top court accused four opposition lawmakers of treason on Tuesday, following similar accusations against 10 legislators this month, escalating a deep political crisis in the South American country.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics/venezuela-security-forces-block-opposition-lawmakers-from-entering-parliament-idUSKCN1SK288

Violence overshadows Sudan's transition push

Sudan’s opposition alliance blamed military rulers on Tuesday for renewed street violence complicating efforts to negotiate a handover to civilian power after last month’s overthrow of President Omar al-Bashir.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sudan-politics/violence-overshadows-sudans-transition-push-idUSKCN1SK0T8

Indian actor-politician under fire for calling Gandhi's HINDU killer India’s ‘first TERRORIST’

Bollywood star-turned-politician Kamal Haasan is facing harsh criticism and even calls for his arrest over his recent claim that independent India’s “first terrorist” was a Hindu nationalist who killed Mahatma Gandhi.

https://www.rt.com/news/459263-kamal-haasan-hindu-terrorism-row/

North Korea demands return of ship seized by US

North Korea has demanded the immediate return of a cargo ship seized by the US, branding the move an "unlawful robbery".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48263685

Trump welcomes Hungarian far-right prime minister Orbán to the White House

On Monday afternoon, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán was welcomed by US president Donald Trump at the White House. It was the first time in 20 years, since Bill Clinton welcomed Orbán in 1998, that the leader of the Hungarian far-right government has met with a US president in Washington.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/05/14/orba-f05.html

Bolsonaro Fund Cuts Force Scientists to Migrate Brazil for Work

Brazilan scientists and students are being forced to leave the country in search of funding to finish their current research and studies fearing major cuts to the public higher education system announced last week by far-right President Jair Bolsonaro.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Bolsonaro-Fund-Cuts-Force-Scientists-to-Migrate-Brazil-for-Work-20190514-0007.html

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Zizek thread

Explain to me Zizek political position. One day he says "I'm for communism", the other he's peak capitalism realism, saying we need to reform capitalism.

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If this stupid fucking tanker thing becomes a casus belli for an Iran invasion, I will officially give up on humanity's future and become a mindless hedonist until either climate destruction or nuclear war kills us all.

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Facial hair thread

Post leftist figures who had amazing facial hair. (Please keep Stalin posts to a minimum, I don't want this thread to be overfilled with him)

Pic is Eric Browder.

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/ag/ Automation General

How will the workers of the world rise up when there are no workers anymore?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=N0rt_HB7vd4

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZeB-RHMGqn0

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dagjQW_jgtE

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The incel issue in late stage capitalism

Greetings and salutations comrades,

In this thread we can talk about the incel problem in late stage capitalism. While a highly controversial and sensationalistic topic, it would be a topic that requires dialogue considering a sizable and active community of incels. While Elliot Rodger would be a rather extreme example of incel his manifesto indicates quite common challenges among the incel community. It would appear that many males had experienced long term incelhood, if the blogs and forums over the years are anything to go by.

Prior to GenX and GenY the baby boomers had enjoyed high wages, unionisation and even home ownership at a very young age. When the baby boomers had birthed the GenX and GenY (permitting some from the Silent Generation birthing them too) they had imparted certain expectations to their daughters. Those expectations were job, car and house by 23 otherwise they should reject the male if they dont meet those prerequisites. The boomers got theirs sort to speak in their day and yet after the late 1970's and mid 1980's unions were undermined, wages stagnated and offshoring began. By the late 1990's and mid 2000's there was housing bubble and eventually the said financial crisis.

Millennials entering the workforce had faced the dreaded 5 billion years experience folding envelopes or pushing a wheelbarrow, of course when companies could not "find qualified and skilled workers" they tasked the government to legislate a visa program. In turn Millennials were suggested to "volunteer" for experience which was something out of Rich Dad, Poor Dad. Once Millennials entered the workforce they dealt with stagnant wages and high cost of living. Despite that the Millennials males did not quite secure a job, car and house by 23, which the bourgie media slandered them for it for years blaming it on avocado toast. It would seem that despite that Millennial women being in the workforce for years have not secured the trifecta either meantime having the niceties of elder Boomer and GenX women (maybe bourgies) telling Millennial men to "grow up and man up", and yet in accordance with their boomer parents expect those from the males.

For years since at least 2008 the establishment of the manosphere and MGTOW and its culmination during the gamergate years had banded many men from many walks of life experiencing the same isolation and depravity of even the most basic female affection. The manosphere and MGTOW as a collective had figured that they were merely placed as an insurance policy (metaphorically speaking) once the female enjoys a partying, drinking, wining, dining and dating males that have the job, car and house (at least 2/3 of them). The insurance policy was that she would not be able to be as visually appealing so she would settle for an incel (or manchild) who has been waiting for her for 10+ years to notice him. The good old "I'll let him chase me until I let him catch me" as advised to them by the elder females not to mention being entangled in divorce court if she has got "bored" and if it lasts the dead bedroom (sex like once or twice a year, if that)

Now, more than ever males have opted out of being a drone or cattle for the "roastie" and "thot" as the manosphere and MGTOW gained validity serving as a warning to males in general. Females that had the "time of their life" has become entrenched with the demands, expectations and shaming. Even the bourgie media had been on the side of the females when they were clearly wrong from Oprah and Dr Phil to the morning news shows now its even bloggers (the whiteknights. simps and manginas according to the manosphere and MGTOW). Real estate agents and retailers had tried the shaming tactics too as Millennials were not spending into those sectors and now they push their advertising to boomers speculating that they would repeat they same spending style of the 60's, 70s and 80s.

What do you think?

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Lefty Memes

Looking for some based lefty memes that are funny. Please post some in this thread thank you

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Antifa

What do you guys think about Antifa? Personally I think that their main goal to bring down fascism is a good idea, but they seem to also do wrong things, and since /leftypol/ is leftist, and Antifa is also leftist, I was just wondering what other leftists had thought about it.

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News 5/13/1

Sweden may seek extradition of Julian Assange as it reopens investigation into rape allegations

Swedish prosecutors may seek extradition of Julian Assange from the United Kingdom in connection with allegations of sexual assault.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/05/13/sweden-reopens-rape-case-against-julian-assange/

Mena Mangal: Journalist and women’s rights campaigner shot dead in broad daylight in Kabul

An Afghan journalist and political advisor, who was vocal about women’s rights in the country, has been gunned down in broad daylight, just days after saying she believed her life was in danger.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/mena-mangal-dead-journalist-shot-death-womens-rights-kabul-a8910446.html

Philippines elections: Duterte allies and opposition battle for power in midterm polls

Filipinos voted Monday in midterm elections highlighted by a showdown between President Rodrigo Duterte's allies who aim to dominate the Senate and opposition candidates fighting for checks and balances under a leader they regard as a looming dictator.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/philippines-elections-2019-rodrigo-duterte-senate-vote-midterms-a8911061.html

Game promoting Macron’s party depicts rival leftist leader as RUSSIAN INSECT, Twitter doesn’t buy it

A game by Macron’s La Republique en Marche (LREM) party, showing their top European election candidate battling with Euroskeptics and depicting rival Melenchon as a Russian insect-like villain, has sparked outrage in France.

https://www.rt.com/news/459228-video-game-loiseau-melenchon/

American B-52s fly first mission over Persian Gulf to ‘send message’ to Iran (PHOTO, VIDEO)

B-52 bombers have commenced air operations from the US base in Qatar, as Washington continues to amass its forces in the Persian Gulf. The White House says it is to deter an alleged Iranian “attack on US interests.”

https://www.rt.com/news/459243-us-b52s-first-mission/

China fires back at the US with higher tariffs on thousands of American products

China on Monday said it would retaliate against the US by raising the tariff rates on thousands of American products, days after the US expanded duties on Chinese goods as trade negotiations stalled.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/trade-war-china-places-new-tariffs-on-us-goods-2019-5-1028194689

Lebanon: Workers take to the streets to denounce government austerity measures

Public sector workers from telecom, water, electricity, the universities and other government-run services took to the streets of Beirut, Lebanon’s capital, on Friday, to protest the government’s budget proposals to cut their wages, pensions and benefits.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/05/13/leba-m13.html

Omar al-Bashir charged over dead Sudan protesters

Sudan's public prosecutor has charged ousted President Omar al-Bashir with incitement and involvement in the killing of protesters.The charges stem from an inquiry into the death of a medic killed during protests that led to the end of his rule last month.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-48252942

And then there was light: Cardinal breaks law to restore power for homeless

A close aide to Pope Francis has drawn the ire of Italy’s anti-immigrant Interior Minister Matteo Salvini by climbing down a manhole to restore electricity to hundreds of homeless people living in an occupied building.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-italy-homeless-cardinal/and-then-there-was-light-cardinal-breaks-law-to-restore-power-for-homeless-idUSKCN1SJ1C5

France's 'yellow vests' protest in dwindling numbers, some clashes

French police fired tear gas in skirmishes with masked demonstrators in Lyon and Nantes on Saturday, the 26th straight weekend of “yellow vest” protests against President Emmanuel Macron and his economic reform agenda.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-protests/frances-yellow-vests-protest-in-dwindling-numbers-some-clashes-idUSKCN1SH0FO

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Utopia vs Dystopia

Just a note: when you look at depictions of the world pre 1960s, they tend to portray or predict a future human society which is positive, or ‘utopia’ as some would say. Whereas media and popular imagination after the 70s tends to portray the future as a cyberpunk dystopia or world devastated by nuclear war or catastrophe (Planet of the Apes, Mad Max, Terminator, Bladerunner, Robocop, etc.), and some even as post-post-apocalyptic such as Hunger Games/Maze Runner where the collapse of humanity has come and gone. Why did people become so hopeless in the 1960s/70s for a brighter future? Why has all entertainment and pop culture portrayed the far future as cyberpunk/hypercapitalist dystopia or obliterated planet? Why as Zizek says is it easier to imagine a world destroyed by an asteroid than the end of capitalism? Has society taken that Capitalist Realism pill so hard it can never be undone?

https://www.supremereality.us/home/thread?id=utopia-and-dystopia

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what are /leftypol/'s thoughts on liberation theology?

any serious thoughts, considerations, or recommendations?

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Why are SuccDems so fucking lame?

Does anyone else on here watch this guy? He usually has some good takes and I enjoy watching what normie leftists have to say so I can gauge where the American "left" is on their path to class consciousness. On one of his recent episodes he repeated the "muh 20 gazillion" line while trying to distance himself, Sanders and the Nordic countries from actual socialism. Hasn't that shit been debunked forever now. Will succdems ever stop harming our movement or are they 100% dead weight?

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Sundiata Acoli

Sundiata Acoli is in prison, I think if he wasn't would browse /Leftypol/

"He graduated from Prairie View A&M University of Texas in 1956 with a degree in mathematics and for the next 13 years worked for various computer-oriented firms, mostly in the New York area.

During the summer of 1964 he participated in civil rights work in Mississippi. In 1968, Acoli joined the Harlem Black Panther Party as its finance minister.He was arrested on April 2, 1969, in the Panther 21 conspiracy case, in which members were accused of planned coordinated bombing and long-range rifle attack on two police stations and an education office in New York City. A group called Computer People for Peace raised $50,000 bail for him but it was rejected by the judge. He and all his co-defendants were ultimately acquitted of all charges in that case."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundiata_Acoli

Press F to say FREEDOM for our imprisoned comrade

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>Bernie gets elected

>Democrats block him at every turn

>Doners rush to fund his opposition

>Reactionaries gloat that "socialism failed"

>Fascist gets elected after him

Do I have that right or are you more optimistic?

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New EC today

"There are a large number of people who spend a good majority of their time and energy worrying about something called "postmodern neo-marxists", while rather amazingly, not being able to name a single one, or describe what they believe. Apparently though, these mysterious postmodernists think that "everything is as true as everything else" (a position that no one has ever held), and are engaged in some kind of systematic plot to destroy Western Civilization, by using…linguistic relativism, or something? It's kind of hard to say."

Actually really good. Thoughts?

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Why is the Alt-Right and other non-Leftist non-mainstream people focus on banking and finance ?

Since this is becoming a growing trend among people who consider themselves "outside the mainstream", I was wondering why there is currently such a huge focus on finance, interest lending and banks ?

Little nazis on /pol/ keep saying that lending money is bad and that bankers should be hanged, but if I recall well one of the most anti-banker nazi of all, Feder, was ousted of the party after its coming to power.

I was wondering if it was a legit concern or if it was another way to get our attention away from the structural foundation of Capitalism (the means of production staying privates) and get some "progressive and social" points ("Hey look, we too blame the 1% !").

So is it a legit concern ? How will banking and the creation of money work under socialism ? How did it worked under historical socialist regime, and is there any good book on the subject ?

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Danish anti-immigrant social democrat about to win elections

“For me, it is becoming increasingly clear that the price of unregulated globalisation, mass immigration and the free movement of labour is paid for by the lower classes,” she wrote in a recent biography.

Denmark’s current right-wing coalition government last year enacted the most anti-immigration legislation in Danish history and, rather than position her party in stark opposition, Frederikson has embraced much of it.

Under her leadership, the SD have called for a cap on “non-western immigrants”, for asylum seekers to be expelled to a reception centre in North Africa, and for all immigrants to be forced to work 37 hours a week in exchange for benefits.

She has reached out to the populist Danish People’s party (DPP), doing a series of joint interviews with its leader, Kristian Thulesen Dahl, and discussing cooperating with them in government.

But it is the government policies her party has supported which have been most alarming for her allies in the left-of-centre red bloc. These include a law allowing jewellery to be stripped from refugees, a burqa and niqab ban, mandatory handshakes irrespective of religious sentiment at citizenship ceremonies, and a plan to house criminal asylum seekers on an island used for researching contagious animal diseases. In February, she backed what the DPP has branded a “paradigm shift” – a push to make repatriation, rather than integration, the goal of asylum policy.

Frederiksen has dealt harshly with any internal dissent. When her party colleague Mette Gjerskov, a former minister, vociferously opposed the burqa ban, her local party backed a rival candidate (whom she fended off) for her seat, and she was then fired as the party’s international development spokesman.

“I was aware that shifting the position in the party would take a lot, but I knew that I had to win that fight,” Frederiksen wrote in her biography. “Normally, I would seek to compromise, but not on immigration policy.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/11/denmark-election-matte-frederiksen-leftwing-immigration

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Why do gamers tend to be reactionary? Capitalism has done more damage to video games in the last decade than ess jay dubyas have

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State Communism vs Anarcho-Communism

Hello comrades, I know for a fact I'm a communist but I don't know whether I'm a state communist (tankie) or an anarcho-communist. I honestly don't know which is better, can someone enlighten me?

Based in Britain, pic related?

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News 5/11/19

As protests grow, Algerian army arrests Workers Party leader

On Thursday afternoon, the Algerian government controlled by army General Ahmed Gaid Salah arrested Workers Party (PT) General Secretary Louisa Hanoune and imprisoned her following a military tribunal hearing. She is reportedly charged with “attacking the authority of the army” and “conspiracy against the authority of the state.”

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/05/11/alge-m11.html

The US is doubling down on its show of force to Iran with even more weapons

The US military is deploying additional assets to the Middle East to deter a possible Iranian attack, the Pentagon announced on Friday.The USS Arlington, an amphibious transport-landing dock used to move troops for expeditionary operations, and a Patriot surface-to-air missile battery are on their way to the US Central Command area of responsibility.

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-show-of-force-to-iran-even-more-weapons-2019-5

Islamic State claims 'province' in India for first time after clash in Kashmir

Islamic State (IS) claimed for the first time that it has established a “province” in India, after a clash between militants and security forces in the contested Kashmir region killed a militant with alleged ties to the group.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-kashmir-islamic-state-idUSKCN1SH08J

Varoufakis draws fire over run for German EU elections seat

Four years after Greece’s former “rock-star finance minister” clashed with his northern European counterparts over austerity measures and debt relief, Yanis Varoufakis is once again taking the fight to his old enemy.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/10/varoufakis-draws-fire-over-run-for-german-eu-elections-seat

UK's Labour vows to more than double youth minimum wage

A future Labour government would more than double the minimum wage in Britain for workers under the age of 18 to 10 pounds an hour, its leader said on Saturday, stepping up his campaign over the cost of living.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-politics-labour/uks-labour-vows-to-more-than-double-youth-minimum-wage-idUSKCN1SH08V

Ahed Tamimi Marches: Rights Defender Protests for Palestinians in UK

Ahed Tamimi, an icon of Palestinian resistance, is on the front lines of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign and the Stop The War Coalition march Saturday in London to protest against Israel’s bombing of Gaza and long-time illegal occupation of Palestinian land.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Ahed-Tamimi-Marches-Rights-Defender-Protests-for-Palestinians-in-UK-20190511-0015.html

South Africa's President Ramaphosa, ANC Hold On To Power In National Elections

South Africa's ruling party, the African National Congress, retained control of parliament in national elections held there this week. But its grip on power eased as the party's overall share of the vote dipped from previous elections amid widespread corruption scandals within the party and a sluggish economy.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/11/722416428/south-africas-president-ramaphosa-anc-hold-on-to-power-in-national-elections

Hong Kong lawmakers fight over extradition law

Fighting erupted in Hong Kong's legislature on Saturday over planned changes to the law allowing suspects to be sent to mainland China for trial.Several lawmakers were injured and one was taken to hospital as politicians clashed in the chamber.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48237316

Neo-Nazis Use Discord Chats to Promote New Zealand Copycat Shootings

This more private part of the radicalization process often takes place in ‘servers’ or chat rooms on Discord, a free chat service marketed to gamers and hugely popular with the alt-right.

https://unicornriot.ninja/2019/neo-nazis-use-discord-chats-to-promote-new-zealand-copycat-shootings/

Brazil court orders Bolsonaro to explain gun decree

A Supreme Court judge has given Brazil's far-right President Jair Bolsonaro and the justice ministry five days to explain his decree granting millions of citizens the right to carry loaded weapons in public, which critics say is unconstitutional.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/brazil-court-orders-bolsonaro-explain-gun-decree-142624605.html

https://archive.is/cGHnO

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Why has the counter culture now upholding traditional values?

How is it that Traditionalism has become more revolutionary than Marxist Communism?

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BO Resignation

I am going to resign from the BO position very soon and give control over the board to one of the current volunteers. I sent a message about this to the volunteers who were active about a month ago, and have been discussing with them since. If there are any volunteers who resumed activity recently and want to be considered for the position, please PM me with info about how often you are usually on /leftypol/, how you would intend to run the board, and so on. You'll get equal consideration on those grounds. As well, all interested volunteers please PM me with your Tox ID and times you will be able to get in a group chat (next three days preferably).

I made this board almost five years ago. At the time I knew very little about communism or anarchism, and I was a vague leftist. My main goal in running the board was to create a popular place for any kind of leftist discussion. The fresh OC, unique memes, shitposts, arguments, and perspectives were really fun and often educational, and I thank users here for spamming the "read a book" memes, which actually did make me (and many others on the board, I imagine) read a lot of books. During this early period, I wholeheartedly contributed to the OC and culture of the board like everyone else, and it's a minor point of pride for me that people still repost OC I made daily.

There were downsides to the naive/hands-off moderation approach, such as the massive promotion and shilling of one big US military base in Syria, Bernie, Nazbols, and similar trash that took place. As I read books and educated myself, I realized what a mess I had created. Maybe the existence of a board like /leftypol/ was inevitable on 8chan, or things could have turned out differently with people going to /marx/ or /anarcho/ instead. In any case, I tried to discourage and get rid of the worst posters, which turned into a protracted fight and even a board split, with a lot of people complaining. /leftypol/ still has ups and downs in spite of general improvements, but I think the abysmal quality of /leftpol/ shows it was the right choice. Some posters have accused me of never visiting the board, only logging on to ban people. I still post here daily. Some of my favorite threads to post in have been the DOW thread, Cockshott generals, DPRK general, "questions that don't deserve their own thread," and others. A lot of people here don't share the view that /leftypol/ actually could be harmful if people were allowed to post imperialist propaganda here, either because they think /leftypol/ is just too small (it never has been, as there are a lot of lurkers on top of the 3-day IP count), or people aren't impressionable to what's posted on imageboards or the internet (with the way things are going in politics in general, I don't know how you could seriously believe this). I hope that there will be a smooth transition when I resign, but in the end it will be out of my hands.

8chan in general is a cesspit. The site admins are fascist scum who cooperate with US law enforcement, and the codebase is so wretched that it's almost certainly backdoored by the feds ten times over (it was even hacked by some rando). The interface that's presented to mods is incredibly antiquated and slow. Imageboards inherently make people act like they have ADHD. Trying to maintain quality on /leftypol/ is frequently a sisyphean task. The only upsides to the site from a leftist perspective are that you can easily post through VPNs, you have some degree of anonymity, and it's better than reddit. Communists who post here or on similar sites (reddit, twitter, etc) should ask themselves if it's really OK that they waste so much time on re-hashed, "ephemeral" arguments, and whether it's possible to create a better platform for propaganda that is really educational and liberatory. I think a better discourse is possible and I want to eventually work towards that, but I can't do that while simultaneously moderating /leftypol/. The amount of time before we are all permanently fucked by fascism and global warming is really limited. Make the most of it.

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==WE'VE BEEN NOMINATED FOR 8CHANMANIA 29 SITE WIDE EVENT!==

Hi /leftypol/. Our board got nominated for the next 8chanmania, and will be represented by a fighter that gets to compete in a video game wrestling tournament against 31 other boards and their representatives. We don't actually have a representative chosen yet, so this thread is to discuss what you'd like your fighter to be. Last time we went with Comrade Skeleton

I'm not the guy running it, but I thought I'd come over and create a thread so we can work things out.

Remember, the event happens on May 12th. If you're interested, make sure to tune in then!

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“There’s no ethical consumption under capitalism” is not an excuse to consume the fucking maximum. Even if ethical consumption is impossible, you’re still consuming more than you need to and therefore enjoying the fruits of capitalism and the exploitation it uses to provide them.

>inb4 “YOU PARTICIPATE IN SOCIETY YET CRITICIZE IT”

There’s a massive difference between thinking of how your society could be improved while still working within the system and complaining about the lack of improvement while contributing to the fucking problem.

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Does the fact that communism has never established a strong foothold in historically Protestant countries give any credence to Weber's Protestant work ethic theory and that Proties and their descendants see historical materialism the same way they saw Catholic predestination as something that determines their lives outside their control

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Sabotage Praxis

Alright guys, this is something I've been thinking about for too long now. Inb4 vanned, go away FBI, etc. Give me your actual critique.

It seems very clear that the revolutionary movement in the US is currently both at a very important point with the American empire weakening even as it threatens to engage in military imperialism once again, but also at a bit of a loss as how to counter this or build our own setup. From this, I'm going to suggest a route for the hardline, serious left in the US to take serious action that directly hampers imperialist actions across the globe.

First, I am going to make the general statement that the development of anti-imperialist global forces is more important than that of maintaining parts of the US, both in terms of people and in terms of what material is recoverable by socialists In The Future.

Second, we are going to have to look at a very simple fact: The government forces that be are currently just not threatened by widespread mas movement as they worry about smaller individual acts. It would be very convenient if the US government was prone to being attacked by an organized mass movement, but they have a lot of resources and broad movements like attempting a vanguard are flat out more prone to infiltration and direct combatting than smaller groups.

As such, I am going to propose that we begin work against the US government for the sake of boosting anti-imperialism efforts in the form of small, loosely organized, decentralized groups that do significant damage to specific important targets across the nation for the sake of damaging the country's capacity to perform imperial actions. And we do this not by attacking the fist of the military but by going for the heart that powers it all.

In this manner, I propose sabotaging American infrastructure in the form of power (electricity especially), transportation, and communications. Insurgent groups can very, very easily get large quantities of thermite from the reclamation of literally scrap aluminum and iron rust, literal garbage that litters every single road in the entirety of the US, refined slightly, ground to powder, and packaged. Put into sacks to be used and given a brief spraypainting to hide them on deployment. We then hit vital points of infrastructure along areas of major industrial production, noting the primary areas that fuel the MIC such as metals, chemicals, some heavy industrial areas, but also minor important industries that feed other industries such as the production of simple things like cardboard or wooden pallets that get used for shipping.

From there, we can target railroad lines, bridges, power pylons, transformers, communication tower guy wires, you name it, anything that would knock out production in the area and take significant time to repair; the further it is from any kind of road to prevent access by repair crew, the better, it means it'll take longer to knock it out. Usefully, this only requires a few dedicated, interested people per strike, and the actual destructive charges can be set with modern digital timers in weatherproof, camouflaged bags to go off months in advance for the sake of leaving or to create a wider spread attack. This is on top of the fact that the US economy is currently struggling just to make it past the damages from 2018 without collapsing in on itself again.

I do not propose that this is the insurrectionary path to revolution

I am proposing that this can be used to soften up the US government's hedgemony on power by disruption of production and economy on a national scale to allow for other anti-imperialist powers to catch a break while the US reels to give ourselves even a bit of breathing room against the dying empire so that we can hope to start making victories again in the future.

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Cambodia

Hello, I was just wondering if anybody has any interesting takes on Pol Pot's Cambodia.I've seen people argue and fight over how many died there and also to what extent the U.S. was behind these deaths. I've heard people claim that Pol Pot's revolution was funded by the U.S. although I've never seen any sources backing this up. What do you leftists think? Do you have any interesting details to share?

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i think this needs to be said

as an ex leftist i feel like the left has become too intolerant

and has become the very thing they themselves hate

i wonder where the tolerant left went

it feels like destroying anyone who isnt leftist now i genually want to know your takes on this

if anyone knows what happend to it let me know

pics for attention

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Ownership vs. Control

I am curious as to this board's thoughts on this particular point.

What is the difference between ownership and control? Can you own something and not control it? Which is actually our enemy? To much private property in too little hands? Or too much control over resources in too little hands? Which is the actual problem?

Does ridding the world of "ownership" actually stop any problems? What if no one "owns" anything, but someone at the top "controls" it all?

I will start by saying that I think too much control of resources in too few hands is the actual problem. But based on this, ending "ownership" technically does very little by itself.

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NO ANIME

Communist governments only care about meeting social needs and profiteering would be illegal therefor without capitalism there would be no anime or video games.

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Looks like a bourgeois adventurist to me.

Comrade Lenin spoke of bourgeois adventurism as being objectively more counterrevolutionary that the forces of reaction.

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Anti Imperialist Thread

Finally a thread against oppression

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F_9FEx7ymg

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Do monarchists have any other other argument other than posting classical paintings of royals and their families or an overly romanticized view of the pre-modern world where they would most likely be peasants, i mean they literally made that buffoon Nicholas II an official saint in the orthodox church

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Here is an ebook, a filter for conservative people, an anti-intellectual work, a must for every young adult who lacks an open mind, a warning. Four main narrators, one for each part, and several interludes. Too substantial to summarize or ignore. A privilege, given from Blacksmith to you. It would be a pathetic injustice not to spread this, so feel free to do so.

Download the PDF for free on:

https://archive.org/details/AWalkingAphrodisiacByNicholasBlacksmith

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Xi Dada turns the screws on Koch-linked economists

Reading this article in Bloomberg, a mouthpiece of the American financial bourgeoisie, about Xi turning the screws on Koch-supported economists in China working under a group called the Unirule Institute of Economics. (The main guy is described as "the favorite Chinese economists of Cato, an influential Beltway think tank co-founded by a Koch brother.")

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-05-11/china-s-latest-crackdown-target-is-liberal-economists

Bloomerg is of course very concerned about all of this, and you have to read it through their bias, but it all sounds pretty based to me tbh:

>Even as Unirule’s influence grew, attitudes toward Chinese economic liberals were beginning to turn. In 2012 the Cato Institute, Washington’s top libertarian think tank, presented Mao [Yushi]—the scholar, not the revolutionary—with its Milton Friedman Prize for Advancing Liberty, an honor given previously to Peter Bauer and Hernando de Soto, both internationally prominent economists. During the presentation at the Washington Hilton, a protester representing the growing ranks of “neo-Maoists”—Chinese activists drawn to the hard-line ideologies of the early People’s Republic—burst into the ballroom, shouting and waving signs labeling the economist a “traitor” who “serves rich Americans.”

Also:

>Unirule is the brainchild of Mao Yushi, a respected 90-year-old economist who was among the first scholars to spread free-market ideas such as deregulation and privatization within China. Until recently, the think tank was one of the country’s more influential nongovernmental organizations, benefiting from the relative liberty granted to economics since the rule of Deng Xiaoping, who once declared that he didn’t care “if the cat is black or white, so long as it catches mice.” So long as they stayed mostly clear of politics, scholars were free to discuss Western thinkers and how their ideas applied to China. The result was a vibrant intellectual community that interacted with government decision-makers, providing data-driven reality checks for officials with little experience outside the Communist Party.

>That space has shrunk drastically under President Xi Jinping, who has forcefully reasserted the party’s power and the state’s economic role, and has attacked the civil society that emerged under his predecessors. A crackdown on dissent that began shortly after he took office in 2012 has seen Unirule, which has a small but consequential following among entrepreneurs and academics, hounded almost into oblivion. Its Chinese website and social media accounts have been shut down, its events broken up, and some of its staff barred from traveling abroad.

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PSL @ Venezuelan embassy

The pro-coup agitators have cordoned the peace activists protesting at the Venezuelan embassy. They are using psychological tactics like using constant flashlights and taunts. They got physical several times, while the police at the scene kept pretending that nothing happened. In fact, when asked to uphold the law, the cops said that they'll either arrest everyone (i.e. remove the peace activists) or arrest no one, thus allowing the violence. PSL obviously suspects the secret services being involved. Video evidence:

1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-OODg_qZ6s

2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_4EEN2KpFU

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>tfw you have a communist girlfriend

have you ever dated a real marxist leninist girl? not some tumblr identity politic liberal but someone you can have a real ideological discussion with, someone against identity politics who wants to murder the bourgouise with you?

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Under Socialism, do people have inherent worth?

And if they do have inherent worth from birth, isn't that an idealist notion? Does Communism assign you an arbitrary "worth" like Capitalism does?

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cooperatives and counter economy

https://www.supremereality.us/home/thread?id=cooperatives-the-counter-economy

Hey guys, officecuck anon here

In our day to day lives of wage-slavery under capitalism, we get up each day and go to work for a capitalist boss making him money. While left(ish) thinkers from Proudhon to Carson to Wolff to even Cockshott (albeit as a transitionary phase to cybernetic planning) have promoted workers coops, there has been no concerted effort to promote this idea.

Advantages:

1. We get to quit being wagecucks for a capitalist and work for ourselves. Although we are still cucked by a greater capitalistic economy competing with our coops, we at least are free of an immediate capitalistic boss, CEO or manager.

2. It takes away profits from the bourgeois. One of the greatest ideas of a coop-economy is that every dollar of profit made by the alternative coop economy is one dollar less made by huge capitalist corporations. It is an immediately practical form of building dual power.

3. It leverages one of the few actual freedoms we have under capitalism: consumer choice.

Objections: Now I know some of you have objections to this on the basis that its too similar to the old utopian socialists who tried to make coops. Its still market based and still capitalist. The difference is that this is not the end all be all, just a stopgap. In the same way universal healthcare etc does equal socialism but does make the lives of workers better.

Cooperatives will not bring the revolution but they will make the experience of work better right now. Yes there is the danger that it will instill a petit bourgeois mentality in the workers in more successful cooperatives, or in industries with higher profit margins such as tech. However this is cancelled by the fact that there should be a NETWORK of cooperatives which offer discounted rates to each other. There should be a leftist search engine/portal, a cooperative ‘amazon.com’ where the workers coops can all list their goods, services, and job listings and buy from/cross promote each other. Similar to how black nationalists say ‘buy black’, we would say ‘buy counter-economy’. Basically any time a left person or other workers coop goes online to buy something including services they would check that site first, in order to see if it has it. This would circle money back into the counter- economy, growing it and conversely shrinking the economy of the bourgeois.

Now as a cockshottist myself I forsee that once socialists seize power (whether through election or other means) we will basically forcibly mutualize the remainder of the economy from the bourgeois, institute direct e-democracy voting, and start building an electronic planning/labor voucher system which will eventually transition the network of cooperatives to a cybernetically planned economy. But I digress. The point is almost every leftist can agree (except leftcoms who will just sit around doing nothing like usual and accelerationists obv) that building dual power is the way to go. Unionizing simply leads to compromise with the bourgeois for better benefits. Coops give works control of their immediate enterprise NOW, as opposed to waiting for the revolution which might not happen for years.

What do you guys say, is this the new praxis?

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Radicalizing with movies

What documentaries or narrative movies would you say are useful in planting ideas of leftism in normal everyday working class people? This assumes you can make them watch it from beginning to end.

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Planned agronomy

Market-based agronomy is unsustainable, we need democratically planned agronomy. We need to drastically limit the amount of crops dedicated to feeding cattle.

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The Purpose of Civil Rights was to enslave is all to the Patriarchy.

Civil rights was not about integrating African Americans into “White” society, and it was not about liberating Women from oppression.

>The purpose of civil rights was to enslave us all into working for a One World Corporatist regime.

The real purpose of civil rights was to subjugate all of humanity under a one world corporate monopoly.

>The purpose of Civil rights was not to free us, it was to enslave us all.

The African American culture had its own community separate and distinct. The increase and indefinitely retention of poverty was due to racist civil planners who were given their power from the top, and that poverty still exists; after the “success” of the civil rights movement.

>MLK was assasinated without reprisal. The Democrats never helped the African Americans, and the racist Democrats blame the African Americans for their current predicament.

The Civil rights movement never freed Women… The Women’s Civil rights movement resulted in Women being permanently enslavement to the state. Now, generations of children will be, essentially, parentless because most households REQUIRE a double income. This means that children are being raised in dangerous daycares and inept public schools instead of being raised by their Mothers…

>The Children are always blamed for not being amoungst the best 10% of students who get the advanced education; this is the case even though there is a gananteed 90% failure rate…

>9/10 students are forced into sub-par curriculums that does not allow advanced learning; all of us are slaves.

Before Civil Rights, African Americans were NOT forced to be white washed by “White “ schools. The African Americans were forming their own society/culture. They were advancing at a phenomenal rate. In time, the African American community would have resolved its own problems.

Before Civil rights there were many powerful and influential women. Before Civil Rights, Women had time to be apart of the community, in meaningful and rewarding ways that were not dictated by a male boss.

>Currently, Women are forced out of their homes to slave away for a male boss who, generally, does not care about them…

Can we put aside all of the rage and indignation so that we may pull ourselves together in unity. If we can unite the left and the right, we will be enabled to move forward into a brighter future for everyone.

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Cockshott Thread: Towards a New Socialism

Since I couldn't find the Cockshott thread I am now creating a new thread to discuss direct-democracy, cybernetic planning and various assorted socialist ideas for the 21st century.

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Does anyone have any good sources on debunking the Russian troll stuff and anti-Russian sentiment in the European Union?

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Rally draws hundreds protesting State Rep. Brian Sims at Philly Planned Parenthood

Hundreds of antiabortion activists rallied outside a Center City Planned Parenthood clinic on Friday, saying they were emboldened by the attacks of a Democratic state representative whose videos of himself berating protesters there, some of them teenage girls, sparked a firestorm on social media this week.

“We are here because we stand for the dignity of every human life. We are here because we do not cower to bullies and harassment,” Lila Rose, president of the antiabortion group Live Action, said outside the clinic at 12th and Locust Streets. “We are here because we share the commitment to fight for life.”

Rally draws hundreds protesting State Rep. Brian Sims at Philly Planned Parenthood

https://www.philly.com/news/brian-sims-planned-parenthood-rally-philadelphia-20190510.html

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Hey /leftypol/

What is the goal of modern "Maoists"?

I haven't read any Maoist literature (I have a pretty long reading list, and I'm not wasting reading time to learn about what I believe to be a non-applicable ideology) and only entry level communist literature in general, but I know enough history to know that Mao's goals were:

>Seize le means of production

>(More and most importantly) take land from landlords and give it to farmers

>Curb western influence in China

>Invoke Chinese Nationalism, and to a degree imperialism

How could a communist in the Western world embrace such ideas? I get you want to redistribute factories, but there aren't really any peasants to liberate anymore, China is sovereign, and, if you're in the West, there's no point to embracing Chinese Nationalism unless you move there.

National Socialism, the ideology I follow, could be applied today: Jews bad, Consumerism bad, Nation good, Reform socialism good

Marxism, my ideology's sworn enemy, can be applied today: Bourgeoisie bad, Workers good, let's create a Utopia

But how do you apply liberating peasants and Chinese Nationalism to the political situation of the USA and other western nations?

Looking for genuine discussion, not senseless arguments or insults

Pic unrelated

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We need more english leftist songs

we needs some rallying cry agaisnt the alt right chuds whether it be an english version of "sacred war" or a less ☭TANKIE☭ song like the international but not sung by some british twink like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sh4kz_zhyo

anyone got ideas?

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Am I a communist?

I'm a communist in the way that I'm anticapitalist and I want a communist state. But I'm against feminism and I'm nationalist.

Sorry for the bad english. I'm from germany.

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Sam Harris is on the far right?

The left seems to not like this guy anymore, but why is this the case? His politics, while not on the far left, certainly seem to be strongly left leaning. Is it just because he's against idpol? Or is he actually malevolent?

He may have done interviews with hacks like Peterson and Shapiro, but he shouldn't be guilty by association.

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I live in finland, joensuu (utra to be specific) where can i find and buy leftist books?

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Womb envy

Hey gais, do you believe in womb envy? By karen horney?

>>In feminist psychology, the terms womb envyand vagina envy denote the anxiety that many men may feel caused by envy of the biological functions of the female sex (pregnancy, parturition, breastfeeding). These emotions could fuel the social subordination of women, and drive men to succeed in other areas of life, such as business, law, and politics.[1][2][3]Each term is analogous to the concept of female penis envy, derived from the theory of psychosexual development, presented in Freudian psychology; they address the gender role social dynamics underlying the "envy and fascination with the female breasts and lactation, with pregnancy and childbearing, and vagina envy [that] are clues and signs of transsexualism and to a femininity complex of men, which is defended against by psychological and sociocultural means"

Wiki

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Caleb Maupin, "Cultural Marxism" n shiet

In this video Caleb Maupin argues that "Cultural marxism" conspiracy is not entirely false. What do you guys think?

https://youtu.be/W9Q5g4J48Jk

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Mutualism

What are your thoughts on Mutualism? Is it viable? Was Proudhon a genius or a fraud?

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99% of you are imperically wrong, and you just don't seem to give a damn...

What I'm claiming really is 100% true about "The Left".

Bing simple, direct, and correct ≠ being simple minded or stupid; quite the opposite.

>I'm explaining my points in simple language so that it may appeal to a larger audience.

I'm not hateful, racist, resentful, or manipulative in any way.

Claim 1 -

99% of Leftists look at Society through a lense of 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧bigoted indignation🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧.

>Plenty of you will deny this claim and make your best attempts at ad hominem attacks and obfuscation.

Claim 2 -

The overwhelming majority of Leftist propaganda exemplifies one of the smallest minority in the world

>rich straight white males,

as the patriarchal, oppressive, masterminds who are somehow behind the world's largest, most diabolical, conspiracy.

Claim 3 -

Jews are to the Right as rich white males are to the Left.

>This simile proves true any way you look at it…

Purpose of claims 1, 2, and 3:

On the premise that "The Left" is viewing the world through bigoted indignation, all you can do is right wrongs through "justified" use of force. If the purpose of the overwhelming majority of Leftist propaganda is simply to right the wrongs supposedly committed by rich straight white males, then the result of said propaganda is going to be the creation of more stereotypes and racism. It seems as though the only purpose of Leftist propaganda is to play identity politics in order to unite the various "Minorities" and women into a matriarchal majority whose sole purpose is simply to put an end to the megalithic global conspiracy of conspiring rich white males.

How can an honest and sane person honestly believe that either the Jews or rich straight white men are collaborating in some way, conscious or subconscious, to oppress all other ethnicities (roughly 84% of the global population), sexualities, and Women (roughly 50% of the global population.)?

I'm being sincere, polite, and honest.

>Please show me the same courtesy.

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Capitalism has ruined the state of meteorology!

Every check a weather site and see that the shits complete shit! No one understands shit about it! Why i think is because of finding the weather for ourselves it is predicted to us(mostly accurate not the point)! Its been sensationalized and made in to practically tabloids! (BRING INTELLICAST BACK IT ORIGINAL STATE yea i know it changed hands) maybe im a anarcho-merorologist!

I once was at a gas station(HAD A SCREEN AT THE PUMP) and i saw cnn playing their weather sequence. It showed the meme 75 and sunny all for the whole week i as like BULLSHIT. I checked a more trusted weather site and it was to rain for 3 days! This was life straight from its live stream on cable!!! Are hurricanes agent of accelerationism??? Hit they are so are all natural disasters!!! The ruling class doesnt want us aware of your surrounding ecology!!! EDUCATE YOURSELLLFS!!!

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Land sectionalization is necessary to plan production and distribution right or wrong?

Share Opinions Below!!!

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Sup leftypol, just casually shilling this interview :

https://youtu.be/Dc4EKy5Pwzc

I've slapped CC on top of it, it's about determinism in social science and it's from my main guy Frederic Lordon. I'm going to bed now but when I'm back up we can discuss determinism theory etc.

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News 5/10/19

U.S. Takes Control Of North Korean 'Sanctions-Busting' Ship

U.S. authorities announced on Thursday that they have taken control of a coal ship North Korea was allegedly using to evade international sanctions.The ship, called the M/V Wise Honest, was first held by Indonesian authorities more than a year ago and is now being moved to American Samoa.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/09/721827706/u-s-takes-control-of-north-korean-sanctions-busting-ship

Argentine deputy targeted in 'premeditated shooting'

An Argentine deputy has been seriously injured and another man killed in a shooting outside parliament in Buenos Aires, officials say.Hector Olivares, of Argentina's Radical Civic Union (UCR), was shot three times by armed suspects while walking with a colleague on Thursday morning.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-48223177

‘Why do we fuel the war?’ French peace activists manage to stop arms shipment to Saudis – report

A ship that was set to carry arms to Saudi Arabia has apparently left France without them, a day after a protest at port. Activists rallied to stop the delivery, saying the weapons could be used to slaughter civilians in Yemen.

https://www.rt.com/news/458983-france-protest-arms-saudis/

Venezuela Announces Re-opening Borders With Brazil, Aruba

During a Friday morning press conference, Venezuelan vice president of economy said the nation is reopening its borders with Brazil, Aruba.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Venezuela-Announces-Re-opening-Borders-With-Brazil-Aruba-20190510-0012.html

U.S. crafting surrender plan, not peace deal: Palestinian foreign minister

The United States seems to be crafting a plan for a Palestinian surrender to Israel instead of a peace deal, Palestinian Foreign Minister Riyad al-Maliki told a meeting at the United Nations attended by U.S. Middle East peace negotiator Jason Greenblatt.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-palestinians-un/us-crafting-surrender-plan-not-peace-deal-palestinian-foreign-minister-idUSKCN1SF2MN

Yemen's Houthis offer unilateral withdrawal from key ports in coming days - UN

The Houthis have offered to withdraw their forces from three key ports in Yemen starting this weekend, according to senior United Nations official in charge of monitoring the move.

https://www.rt.com/news/459006-houthis-withdraw-ports-yemen/

NPA offensive against RPA-ABB response to the long time demand of the people for justice

The Apolinario Gatmaitan Command applauds the Red fighters of New People’s Army (NPA) under the Armando Sumayang Jr. Command for their victorious offensive against members of the mercenary bandit terrorist armed group RPA-ABB around 1:30 this morning at Sitio Mambinay, Barangay Locotan, Kabankalan City, Negros Occidental.

https://www.redspark.nu/en/peoples-war/philippines/npa-offensive-against-rpa-abb-response-to-the-long-time-demand-of-the-people-for-justice/

https://archive.is/bmV4K

Corporate murder: Trial opens of France Télécom executives over worker suicides

The trial that opened in Paris on Monday of seven former France Télécom executives on the spate of worker suicides at the company sheds a stark light on the brutality of the capitalist system.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/05/10/tele-m10.html

Brazilian Universities Reject Budget Cuts to Science, Education

A few days before the May 15 nationwide strike against social security reforms, Brazilian teachers, students and researchers held the 'Scientific March Against Budget Cuts and Education Dismantling" across the nation.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Brazilian-Universities-Reject-Budget-Cuts-to-Science-Education-20190510-0010.html

‘Time is no longer on our side’: Cambridge scientists to test radical ways to stop climate change

The University of Cambridge is launching a new research lab to explore radical ways of fixing the Earth’s climate.The new centre is being established in response to concerns current efforts to tackle climate change by reducing emissions will not be enough to halt or reverse damage to the environment.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/cambridge-scientists-radical-ways-to-stop-climate-change-a8907766.html

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>repeatedly tolerates literal open cops being in the org

>constantly having civil war over people being cancelled and MeTooed for nothing

>is still controlled and directed by reformists who think Bernstein and Kautsky were misunderstood and should make a comeback

>language policing is literally a structural part of the org

>tolerates actual neocons being in the org

>has no real antiwar movement to speak of

>tolerates the son of a billionaire who profited from the war on terror being in the org and a cult of personality to defend him against any criticism

>balls deep in idpol pc culture and culture wars nonsense

>constantly alienates the more radical chapters in favor of reformism and working within the Democratic party

>composed primarily of petite bourg college kids rather than working class people

Exactly why does anyone here defend this hot steaming pile of dogshit again? Inb4 "we gotta shift le Overton window left" that's already happened

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>accidentally make a racist joke without thinking

>quickly apologise

>fired

>people on the left say even though he didn't intend to be racist, he should still be punished.

I don't get this at all. Am I the only one who still believes in transformative justice? it feels like the people who want him to be fired feel like "something needs to be done", but the only ption these days for action is "fire" or "not fire".

As someone who is a leftist and a committed anti racist, who understands that intent doesn't give you a free pass to say anything, i still feel like the reaction is well over the top here. Are we so bereft of anti racist responses that we can only respond in the crudest way possible?

(Btw this guy is called Danny baker and he made a joke about how the new royal baby was a monkey, without realising the baby has some black heritage.)

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What's leftypol's take on pic related?

Your thoughts on Jimmy Hoffa? This question is coming from a non-American. Was he as corrupt as he is usually depicted?

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NONONONO THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING. I THOUGHT RACIST INCELS DIDN'T HAVE SEX? YOU LIED TO ME /LEFTYPOL/

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Thoughts/feedback?

We will never be able to recruit new people like /pol/ does unless we start self-reflecting.

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Reason and Logic... Mods Please be rational...

Socialism gives a state totalitarian power over all citizens, young and old, rich and poor, gay and straight, binary and non-binary, men and women, black and white… the Socialist state uses force to instill a rule of law over all of us.

Command Economy -

> an economy in which production, investment, prices, and incomes are determined centrally by a government.

Globalism -

the operation or planning of economic and foreign policy on a global basis.

Do you really want to be governed from abroad?

>Please be reasonable.

I want to hear your actual opinion.

Keep in mind that I have not stated my opinion.

>To ass-u-me will make an ass of both you and me.

This isn't an intelligence contest. There is no winner or loser here… If no one can be reasonable… We all lose…

Why do you think your life will be better if you give some Governance totalitarian power over you?

>If this is not what you want, then I'm not talking about you.

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Pornography in Communism?

With the thread on prostitution going on as we speak, I thought it would be nice to make a seperate one regarding pornography in particular.

So, what would happen to porn in socalism/communism?

Danov, a self-called /leftypol/ content creator recently made a video about this and I was wondering what you guys think about his take and whether or not it is valid.

https://youtu.be/8ykHZDYPVsA

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fuck this shit I'm out

Have any of you just given up? I'm so alienated I can't even do anything anymore. I fucking stopped doing anything that involved labor because I can't get any sense of reward at all, or feel like it's worth it. Someday I'm just gonna end up fucking homeless in this hellworld. I've come to terms with the hopelessness of it all.

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News 5/9/19

From London to the South Pole: ‘Immortal Regiment’ commemorates WWII heroes across globe

People from across the world have taken part in annual Immortal Regiment marches, carrying photos of their relatives and commemorating WWII heroes in emotional Victory Day festivities.

https://www.rt.com/news/458912-immortal-regiment-around-world/

The US, Japan, India, and Philippines sent a fresh challenge to Beijing with naval drills in the South China Sea

US, Japanese, Indian, and Philippine warships carried out drills in the South China Sea during the first week of May.Similar exercises have been conducted in the past, but the joint effort is a fresh signal to Beijing, which has claimed a vast swath of the sea.

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-japan-india-and-philippines-challenge-beijing-with-naval-drills-in-the-south-china-sea-2019-5

Swedish prosecutor to give decision on Assange rape investigation on Monday

Sweden’s state prosecutor will announce next Monday whether or not she will reopen a preliminary investigation into a rape allegation against Wikileaks founder Julian Assange.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-wikileaks-assange-sweden/swedish-prosecutor-to-give-decision-on-assange-rape-investigation-on-monday-idUSKCN1SF1MA

Matteo Salvini ally sacked from Italy's cabinet amid corruption probe

staunch cabinet ally of Italian interior minister Matteo Salvini has been sacked amid a corruption probe, sparking a cabinet rift.Armando Siri, the undersecretary of transport, stands accused of taking bribes worth €30,000 from renewable energy companies operating in the south of Italy.

https://www.euronews.com/2019/05/09/matteo-salvini-ally-sacked-from-italy-s-cabinet-amid-corruption-probe

https://archive.is/0gOT7

Danish right-wingers recruit controversial candidates, as country gets ready for elections

Stram Kurs (Hard Line) will run for election for the first time in June. The party pushes a combined message of small-government libertarianism and “ethnonationalist utilitarianism.” The latter translates as a ban on Islam, an immediate withdrawal from refugee conventions, and the deportation of all asylum seekers and any “non-western persons.”

https://www.rt.com/news/458862-denmark-far-right-election/

Thai election: Pro-military party likely to form government

Thailand's pro-military party is expected to form a government after an election that promised to restore democracy to the country.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48184530

Ontario government slashes post-secondary education funding and student aid

Ontario’s right-wing populist Progressive Conservative government announced sweeping cuts to post-secondary education in its first budget presented last month. The cuts are part of a concerted drive to restructure post-secondary education to tailor it even more to the labour market demands of big business and further subordinate university research to corporate needs.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/05/09/oned-m09.html

Canada: climate change threat could herald ‘dawn of new era’ for Green party

Elections have rarely been kind to Canada’s long-suffering Green party. Though many voters view it as the environmental conscience of the country, they often abandon it when it comes time to cast their ballot and the party’s leader Elizabeth May has sometimes been forced to fight for a place in debates between party leaders.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/09/canada-green-party-climate-change-federal-election

Brazilian Court Orders ex-President Michel Temer Back to Prison

Temer took office in 2016 in a Senate-imposed mandate after his right-wing party impeached leftist President Dilma Rousseff over unfounded corruption allegations.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Brazilian-Court-Orders-ex-President-Michel-Temer-Back-to-Prison-20190509-0012.html

Kurdish-Led one big US military base in Syria Units Conduct Raid in North-Eastern Syria

The Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (S.D.F) units carried out a raid in the Syrian town of Shahil, local media reported on Thursday, citing sources.

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201905091074849516-sdf-syria-militia/

https://archive.is/hMhSZ

'Exterminator of the future': Brazil's Bolsonaro denounced for environmental assault

Jair Bolsonaro is transforming Brazil into an “exterminator of the future”, the activist and politician Marina Silva has warned, as she and seven other former environment ministers denounced the far-right president’s assault on rainforest protections.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/09/jair-bolsonaro-brazil-amazon-rainforest-environment

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History Books

I want to learn more about the October revolution and the immediate aftermath of it during the civil war and NEP (pre-Stalin period, there are plenty of good books on that I know of) - I'm particularly interested in soviet democracy and in the role of the vanguard party after the revolution, especially in regards to the decay of democracy and the increase in party power. Does anyone know of any good history books on this topic? Usually Sheila Fitzpatrick is good at talking about soviet grassroots society, has anyone read her book on the Russian Revolution and is it any good? I'm not interested in reading some shitty book by Grover Furr either - proper historians only. Cheers.

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News 5/8/19

Iran Says It Will Stop Complying With Parts Of Nuclear Deal, A Year After U.S. Left It

Iran's president says increased uranium enrichment will begin in 60 days if world powers don't shield it from U.S. sanctions, under the terms of the 2015 nuclear agreement. The move is a signal to the world that Tehran is losing patience with U.S. efforts to punish Iran economically.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/08/721343724/iran-says-it-will-stop-complying-with-parts-of-nuclear-deal-a-year-after-u-s-lef

We will not allow Iran to achieve nuclear weaponry - Netanyahu

Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has pledged that his country will not allow Iran to obtain nuclear weaponry after Tehran said it intends to start rowing back on its nuclear deal commitments.

https://www.rt.com/news/458703-iran-israel-nuclear-deal-weapons/

Lithuania monument for 'Nazi collaborator' prompts diplomatic row

A monument to a Lithuanian hero in the US city of Chicago has prompted a row over World War Two after criticism from Russia and the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48186346

UK government seeks to deny legal aid to Shamima Begum

Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt, while ostensibly defending her right to legal aid, told the BBC he was “very uncomfortable” with the decision to grant it.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/05/08/sham-m08.html

North Korea may make contact with Japan after Abe said he was willing to hold a summit 'without conditions'

orth Korea may be preparing to make contact with Tokyo after Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe said he was willing to hold a summit “without conditions” with its leader Kim Jong-un, according to media reports.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/05/08/north-korea-may-make-contact-japan-abesaid-willing-hold-summit/

Outlets Strive For Independence In Hungary, Where Most Media Back The Government

In 2016, there was a series of ownership changes at Dunantuli Naplo, where Nimmerfroh was the managing editor. The new owners of the publisher Mediaworks attracted key investors considered close to Hungary's nationalist prime minister, Viktor Orban. When Mediaworks has bought shares in news outlets, it has either shut them down or fired editors seen as critical of Orban.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/08/720015059/outlets-strive-for-independence-in-hungary-where-most-media-back-the-government

Mike Pompeo invokes Thatcher to push for harder line on China

In a speech in London he claimed China was intent on dividing the west through the use of technology. Referring to the late former prime minister, he said: “Ask yourself: would the Iron Lady be silent when China violates the sovereignty of nations through corruption or coercion?”

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/may/08/mike-pompeo-invokes-thatcher-push-harder-line-china-huawei

Trump's secretary of state slams Jeremy Corbyn's support for Nicolás Maduro as 'disgusting'

Mike Pompeo, the US secretary of state, has attacked the Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn over what Pompeo called Corbyn's "disgusting" support for Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-secretary-slams-corbyns-disgusting-support-for-maduro-2019-5

Proposal to spend 25% of EU budget on climate change

Eight European countries have called for an ambitious strategy to tackle climate change – and to spend a quarter of the entire EU budget on fighting it.The joint statement says the EU should have net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050 "at the latest".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48198646

US refuses to sign declaration protecting the Arctic because it references climate change

The US refused to sign an agreement on challenges facing the Arctic due to its wording regarding climate change. The refusal puts global cooperation in an effort to stop drastic effects of climate change in jeopardy.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-climate-change-arctic-trump-pompeo-declaration-sign-a8903706.html

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>Chapo says not to push for communism but just mild socialist reform

>Zizek outright denounces 20th century communist movements

>Doug Lain and his fat loser sidekick shilling for Israel

>Bernie already losing steam

>/r/socialism is a pro-capitalist tranny containment reddit

Are we surrounded by enemies of the revolution? How do I know you're not one of them? How would you know I'm not one of them?

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Policies and Regulation

Given our current state and assuming socialism/communism isn't around the corner, which and what sort policies of would you discard, keep, change or introduce.

>all kinds of tariffs

>minimum wage

>union rights

>taxes

>welfare

>nationalization/privatization

>anything else I forgot

Remember the long-term consequences, so try not to accidentally maintain the life of capitalism or go full retard and try to make life as miserable as possible for a gamble at revolution.

Don't know much about the rest, but I think tariffs should go. Also I wouldn't support industry that could be otherwise directed to something more efficient.

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what is the most cucked country on earth?

Taking into account a mixture of idelogical cucking, and material cucking (poverty, bad working conditions, ect), which country on earth is the worse?, a lot of you will say burgarland, but hear me out pic related is worse imo in both ways in almost every aspect, which one would you say it is?

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Why do Americans lacks class consciousness? What happened between the 1940s and now that turned Americans against their own? How do we fix this?

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Victory Day

It's Victory Day, comrades. Let's celebrate the memory of humankind's greatest heroes.

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Propaganda

How can we spread the word around? I though of /pol/ but the feeling I have is that those aren't the kind of people we want on our side. Reddit is nice but the voting system combined with how isolated the communities are isn't that great for spreading the word. The thing it's best at is creating echo chambers. Youtube is excelent and I think did a great job. The problem is all of the content creators don't really focus on class that much. Here as a example I can point to Contrapoints. Earlier her videos were about capitalism and race realism, now she only makes videos about trans issues. Not that's wrong per se. It just doesn't help the cause in any way. There are more youtubers but we don't need pop philosophy dudes talking about acid-communism. It's so removed from real life it becomes laughable.

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Can we get Parenti to do a podcast or something? I doubt there was ever a more based human being.

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I really enjoyed reading Capitalist Realism by Mark Fisher.

It's a short book about the postmodern condition, through the lens of pop culture and the author's personal experience.

Books like this or related to the topic?

What is the correct praxis, given the pervasive Capitalist Realist attitude?

Is Zizek on to something when he says "don't act. think"?

My city has ~200 communists tops (including anarchists), in a city of 6 million workers. What do? How to de-capitalist-realism-ize friends and family, or better, make them communists?

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WHY DO YOU FOLLOW JUEDO-BOLSHEVISM?

While National S¤cialism brought about a new version and formulation of European culture, Bolshevism is the declaration of war by Jewish-led international subhumans against culture itself. It is not only anti-bourgeois, but it is also anti-cultural. It means, in the final consequence, the absolute destruction of all economic, social, state, cultural, and civilizing advances made by western civilization for the benefit of a rootless and nomadic international clique of conspirators, who have found their representation in Jewry!

TELL ME /leftypol/! WHY WOULD THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT JEWS OR SHITSKINS FOLLOW A JEWISH POLITICAL IDEOLOGY CREATED SOLEY TO SUBJUGATE GOYIM?

THE ONLY IDEOLOGY WORTHY OF THE ARYAN MAN IS NATIONAL SθCIALISM!

卐 HEIL HITLER! 卐

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Please explain or debunk this

Please don't meme on me for wanting a legit non

halfchan /pol/ tier explaination for this. I'm genuinely curious and confused about all this.

https://twitter.com/ZyclownB/status/1123421599997222912?s=09

Pic unrelated

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Leftypol Questions on Anarchism

So I've been reading this board for a while now, and you've all become a lot more critical of anarchism recently.

I understand that a lot of you are state-socialists (Marxist-Leninists, Stalinists, e.c.t), which I don't have anything against necessarily.

Despite my anarchism I am more than willing to cooperate with a state-socialist, and would even be willing to temporarily drop my anarchism if a socialist state was proven to be efficient and not corrupt like all off the capitalist states, knowing that the end goal of state socialism is communism, which is anarchistic anyway.

So, I would like to ask a few questions to you guys.

And I know that this is 8chan, so I should prepare myself for getting burned to at least some degree, but it would be cool if you could respond to this thread respectfully (in the words of Sasha Baron Cohen) as to prevent the discord from becoming confused by stupid rivalry bullshit.

So anyways, here are my questions:

When the revolution occurs, instead of going after each individual capitalist organization, why don't you just go for the state?

The state's powers is the main thing which allows private-property rights to stay intact.

Would it not simply be more efficient to destroy the main headquarters of the state government and simply fall back on the organized working class to form their own anarchist delegates and then establish federations for the delegates to communicate with each-other (I suppose this would assume that the working class was organized anarchically before this take-over occurs)?

Fighting back against the police and the military in this process wouldn't be as hard as you think. The police and the military will always be a minority in society.

The police for example could easily be destroyed by an organized working class as the proles will always outnumber them.

This is because the state relies more on the fear of a Hobbes style state of nature emerging if the state were to loose its control, rather than its armed forces, which is only really designed to beat down the minority of law-breakers.

As far as the military is concerned, their artillery could easily be taken care off through some home made explosives (you'd be surprised by what you can make with just the stuff in your home) and some well planned guerilla warfare tactics.

And again, the proles will always outnumber them, this time because most of the population needs to be entirely focused on production so most people can not be made to become soldiers.

And lastly, it is the state which provides the armed forced their legal authority to act in society anyway. That in itself would servery weaken them.

Not to mention how dis-coordinated this minority of state-agents would be after their centralized bases of communication has been destroyed. An organized working class would destroy these confused people with guns, stumbling about for someone to give them orders.

How do you Plan to Prevent your Socialist Government From Becoming Corrupt?

While I empathize with and agree that some level of authoritarianism and militarism would be needed after a socialist revolution (whether through the state or through anarchism), how would you safeguard against your socialist state from abusing it's newly found level of authority and militaristic power (even the most authoritarian of socialists can't deny that this screwed up socialist states like the USSR, Cuba and socialist China to at least some degree)?

And once the material conditions have been met in order to implement full communism how can you be sure that this state which you have granted so much power over everyone else will be willing to have itself wither away and bring about communism?

How Would A Fully Communist Society Politically Function Once Achieved?

A fully communist society is classless, moneyless and stateless.

How would this society politically function?

And why could these political methods not be applied now in the form of anarchism?

So that's all my questions.

I won't be able to respond immediately because I have stuff to do, but I will get back to this thread as soon as possible.

And sorry for any spelling mistakes

Thanks

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Facts

Reminder that

Sex workers are either slaves or self employed petit bourg

The concept of "decriminalizing" or "legalizing" things is a sheepdogging tactic that can only be realized through capitalism (as opposed to socialism where these things will just be parts of society and thus the need to decriminalize or legalize then will be superfluous)

Solidariry>Intersectionality

LGBT people are fine but Queer Culture is a stupid consumerist spook

Gang Culture is fascist and was imposed upon colored communities as a way to keep them consumer drones and stop them from organizing along class lines

Representation in capitalist media does literally nothing at all for any oppressed group or cultural identity

Anti-Colonialism is outdated and support for modern national liberation movements should be predicated on anti-imperialism (materialist) rather than some romantic notion of "decolonization" (idealist)

Fetishization of indigenous life and attempting to institutionalize protection of it is reactionary

Boomers and Gen X were directly cultivated and grown in a Petri dish to be the most anticommunist and hyper consumerist generations ever and thus while blanket intergenerational hatred is spooky and reactionary it isn't entirely out of the question to treat boomers and gen x as guilty until proven innocent particularly if they come from what's left of the middle class or petit bourg

Small business owners are shit

There is literally nothing revolutionary about the Democrat Cops of America

Class reductionism literally just means materialism

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Socialist developmentalism

Does anyone have any good reading on socialist developmentalism? Like you get a lot on pink tide states but is there any good reading on say the Arab Socialists like Nasser or Sankara's unique style of developmentalism? Anyone else know of other good examples of socialist developmentalism outside of post-1990s Latin America? Thanks. Thought it would be useful as a more general thread on the topic.

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Mike Gravel

US anons should be pushing Gravel, he is more left than Sanders on almost every issue and is a big anti-imperialist. He is a better alternative than voting for a accelerationist candidate or just not voting at all.

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Should I peel it off?

I'm not the type, who is into fighting other kinds of leftists. For example, I can ignore anarchist stickers quite well. But what would you do, when you see a sticker like pic related? When zionists are instrumentalizing Lenin for their propaganda?!

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https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/centre_party_to_join_sdp_in_government_formation_talks/10772412

>Antti Rinne has confirmed that five parties are to begin cabinet negotiations: the SDP, Centre, Greens, Left Alliance and Swedish People's Party.

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Will we still have Metallica in socialism?​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

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How to deal with religion

How would religion be properly dealt with in a socialist state? Some questions for starters:

1. What religions/sects should be banned outright?

2. Should there be a tax paid to the state, and not the church, on religious institutions, and if so how much?

3. Ditto but for individuals registered as affiliated with such organizations – in Germany people can have as much as 9% of their income taken off per year for being members of a church.

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News 5/7/19

US sending B-52s to Middle East as part of Iran response

U.S. Central Command confirmed Tuesday that bombers headed to the Middle East will be B-52s as it sought to clarify plans to deploy a carrier strike group and a bomber task force to the region days after national security advisor John Bolton announced the move.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/442556-us-sending-b-52s-to-middle-east-as-part-of-iran-response

https://archive.is/7K7QV

Venezuelan Top Court Orders Prosecution of 7 Lawmakers over Participation in Coup

The Supreme Court of Justice of Venezuela, found guilty seven opposition lawmakers of the Venezuelan National Assembly, which has been in contampt oif that very court since 2016, for illicit activity linked to treason, conspiracy, instigation for civil rebellion, conspiracy to commit a crime, usurpation of functions, and public instigation for disobedience of the laws.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Venezuelan-Top-Court-Orders-Prosecution-of-7-Lawmakers-over-Participation-in-Coup-20190507-0019.html

Radical opposition party advocating seizure of white-owned farms set to surge in South Africa's election

When South Africa goes to the polls on Wednesday, only one party looks certain to increase its share of the vote.The Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) advocates the seizure of all white-owned farms and the nationalisation of much of the economy.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/05/07/radical-opposition-party-advocating-seizure-white-owned-farms/

‘Portuguese pilot’ shot down in Mirage jet by General Haftar’s forces in Libya

The pilot of a fighter jet shot down south of Tripoli by the Libyan National Army is allegedly a Portuguese fighting in Libya as a “mercenary,” Haftar’s forces claim, as photos of the captured pilot covered in blood emerge online.

https://www.rt.com/news/458571-libya-downed-pilot-portugal/

UK: Renewed Brexit talks deepen splits in both Conservatives and Labour

Talks between the Conservative government and Labour opposition on an alternative Brexit deal resume today, with a meeting between Prime Minister Theresa May’s deputy, David Lidington, and Shadow Brexit Secretary Keir Starmer.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/05/07/brec-m07.html

Myanmar Releases Pulitzer Prize-Winning Reuters Journalists

After more than 500 days in prison, two Reuters journalists convicted of breaking Myanmar's Official Secrets Act have been released from prison.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/07/720901218/myanmar-releases-pulitzer-prize-winning-reuters-journalists-from-prison

French authorities granted access to psychiatric records to ‘prevent terrorist radicalization’

Authorities in France will now be notified by psychiatric healthcare professionals if they feel a patient is in danger of “terrorist radicalization,” sparking renewed concerns over the future of doctor-patient confidentiality.

https://www.rt.com/news/458576-france-psychiatric-records-radicalization/

Suits Filed Against Carnival Cruises, Cuban Firms Over Seized Property In Cuba

"They had told them that the Castro regime was taking his property and that he had to leave the country," says Behn from his home in Miami. His grandfather grabbed his wife and children and flew straight to New York. The family lost everything, he says.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/07/720695420/suits-filed-against-carnival-cruises-cuban-firms-over-seized-property-in-cuba

The night the US bombed a Chinese embassy

Nato, the world's most powerful military alliance, had been pummelling Yugoslavia from the skies since late March to try to bring a halt to atrocities committed by President Slobodan Milosevic's forces against ethnic Albanians in the province of Kosovo. It was now 7 May 1999 and the US-dominated air campaign was only growing more intense.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48134881

US lifts sanctions on general who broke ranks

The US has lifted sanctions on a Venezuelan general who broke ranks from the Nicolás Maduro regime, saying it hoped it would push others to follow.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-48193278

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News 5/6/10

North Korea tested a missile over the weekend. The Trump admin flubbed the response.

While it was only a short-range missile that couldn’t reach the United States, it shows that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un’s patience with negotiations may be wearing thin.

https://www.vox.com/world/2019/5/6/18531121/north-korea-missile-test-trump-pompeo

https://archive.is/0yjP8

Gavin Williamson 'wanted to invade Africa' and risked war with China, say May allies

Theresa May sacked her Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson following concerns that he risked dragging Britain into war, according to claims by the prime minister's allies.

https://www.businessinsider.com/theresa-may-defence-secretary-gavin-williamson-wanted-to-invade-africa-and-risk-war-with-china-2019-5

Initial Grenfell fire inquiry report to make “withering criticism” of London Fire Brigade

The London Fire Brigade (LFB) is set to face heavy criticism from the Grenfell Tower Inquiry, aiding the Conservative government in shifting blame from the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea (RBKC) and other guilty corporate parties.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/05/06/gren-m06.html

Ceasefire reached between Gaza's Palestinian factions and Israel after 2 days of fighting

Hamas and Israel have reached a ceasefire agreement, according to Palestinian and other media, following two days of intense cross-border confrontation between Gaza and its neighbor, in which both sides suffered casualties.

https://www.rt.com/news/458458-ceasefire-palestine-israel-gaza/

Trump's shock tariff threat escalating the US-China trade war leads to a 'risk off frenzy' in global markets

Global markets plunged Monday, a day after President Donald Trump threatened to raise tariffs on hundreds of billions of dollars' worth of Chinese goods, escalating the US-China trade war.

https://www.businessinsider.com/global-markets-plunge-on-donald-trumps-shock-tariff-threat-with-china-2019-5

Navy strike group deployed to send ‘message’ to Iran

The U.S. military is deploying the USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group and a bomber task force to the Central Command region in the Middle East to send a "clear and unmistakable message" to Iran, national security adviser John Bolton said in a statement Sunday.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/05/iran-navy-strike-group-1302645

https://archive.is/edQaq

Centrist Nito Cortizo Elected President of Panama, Roux Objects

The newly elected head of state, from the Democratic Revolutionary Party (PRD) - created in 1979 by Omar Torrijos -, will lead the Central American nation until 2024.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Centrist-Nito-Cortizo-Elected-President-of-Panama-Roux-Objects-20190505-0020.html

Istanbul mayoral vote to be held again, election officials rule

President Erdogan had argued that the margin of votes was too small for the opposition party win to be valid. A CHP spokesman has called the decision "plain dictatorship."

https://www.dw.com/en/istanbul-mayoral-vote-to-be-held-again-election-officials-rule/a-48625291

Climate change is driving the wealth gap in more ways than we think.

Temperatures may be rising globally, but not all of us feel the impact in the same way.Over the past half century, climate change has increased inequality between countries, dragging down growth in the poorest nations whilst likely boosting prosperity in some of the richest, a new study says.

www.bbc.com/capital/story/20190502-how-global-warming-has-made-the-rich-richer

1 Million Animal And Plant Species Are At Risk Of Extinction, U.N. Report Says

Up to 1 million of the estimated 8 million plant and animal species on Earth are at risk of extinction — many of them within decades — according to scientists and researchers who produced a sweeping U.N. report on how humanity's burgeoning growth is putting the world's biodiversity at perilous risk.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/06/720654249/1-million-animal-and-plant-species-face-extinction-risk-u-n-report-says

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>Anarchists have no theo-

When will y'all abandon your arborescent concepts of social change and start thinking R H I Z O M A T I C A L L Y?

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Late stage capitalism?

Ah yes, Silicon Valley.

A magical place where you earn substantially above national average and it's barely enough to rent an old shipping container shared with five other people.

I wonder how long is this circus going to last.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/27/silicon-aa-cost-of-living-crisis-has-americas-highest-paid-feeling-poor

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I know a lot here hate Trotsky, but how many of you hate the ideology of Trotskyism as a stand alone, and why?

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Imagine unironically supporting bourgeoisie liberal policies like gay marriage and general intersectionality still thinking of yourself as a revolutionary

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Cultural Marxism is a CIA psyop

Neoliberalism was a CIA project used to destroy pro-Worker Socialism and replace it with Anti-Worker, Pro-Homo SJWism of the "New Left"

>Frankfurt School

>Marcuse

>New Left

>Rockefeller

>CIA

>members of the Frankfurt School–Franz Neumann, Herbert Marcuse, and Otto Kirchheimer–worked for the CIA

>Worked on domestic and foreign propaganda agency

>received a Rockefeller Foundation grant (Rockefeller Foundation was closely tied to CIA) to deconstruct Soviet Marxism

>CIA funded french eurocoms

>CIA/Rockefeller pursue to destroy pro-Worker Socialism and replace it with anti-Worker imposter """Socialism"""

https://press.princeton.edu/titles/9955.html

https://nithgrim.wordpress.com/2016/05/19/marcuse-and-the-deep-state/

http://archive.oah.org/special-issues/teaching/2001_09/article.html

http://thephilosophicalsalon.com/the-cia-reads-french-theory-on-the-intellectual-labor-of-dismantling-the-cultural-left/

https://www.theawl.com/2015/08/literary-magazines-for-socialists-funded-by-the-cia-ranked/

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Redpill me on the Fed

From start to finish, tell me all there is to know about the Fed and exactly how it manipulates money and their relationship to the state, the financial industry, and on production.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mII9NZ8MMVM

Thoughts on these kinds of theories about the Fed? Would things be all that better without it?

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Poway Shooting

This was all over the news today - at least this afternoon, it was.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poway_synagogue_shooting

>Earnest published an anti-Semitic and racist open letter to 8chan's /pol/ board that cited Brenton Harrison Tarrant and Robert Bowers the respective perpetrators of the Christchurch mosque shootings and Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, including Nazi Party leader and Fuhrer of Nazi Germany Adolf Hitler as figures of inspiration for the Poway shooting

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CAPITALIST CULT OF PERSONALITY

How do we stop the fucking cult of personality of the so called "entrepreneurs" ? it's so fucking disgusting all the hype that people have towards these people. Just look at this bitch, she was one of the most celebrated businesswoman some years ago, a lot of media coverage, newspapers and all kind of shit, and at the end was everything a lie.

Despite all of this shit a documentary was made about his history, a book was written and now they want to do a netflix movie just to make his ego a little bit bigger.

These are the situations that makes me hate capitalism, Theranos, the "start-up" that she founded had no projects, no results, nothing, but figured out how to lie and fool people, and the investors kept puring money on this failed company.

More infos:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Holmes

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Capitalist exploitation will exhausted naturally resources allowing modern life possible.

A socialist world will look steam punk as we have advanced technology just lack the resources to propel us into a futuristic world

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Paris will burn !

L'assemblée Gilets jaunes IdF du 16/4 appelle à un cortège Gilet jaune en tête de manifestation.

Total: 65 000 participants + intéressés Facebook

17 000 participants + intéressés - « Gilet jaune demain » - 10h Panthéon

15 000 participants + intéressés - « Acte ultime »

15 000 participants + intéressés - « 2m sur les Champs » (lieu différent)

4 500 participants + intéressés - « 1er mai, en route vers la Victoire »

2 700 participants + intéressés - « Cortège festif "Benalla Bloc" »

2 000 participants + intéressés - « 1er mai jaune : les Gilets jaunes en tête ! »

1 500 participants + intéressés - « Paris sous Gaz »

1 400 participants + intéressés - « Street Medic »

100 participants + intéressés - « Grande marche vers Paris » (départ du 77)