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NEW /leftypol/ reading list

Old thread reached post limit. Let's start with something fresh. The fucking captcha expires by the time the PDF uploads and it won't disappear, next post is the file.

>Honeybees make decisions collectively–and democratically. Every year, faced with the life-or-death problem of choosing and traveling to a new home, honeybees stake everything on a process that includes collective fact-finding, vigorous debate, and consensus building. In fact, as world-renowned animal behaviorist Thomas Seeley reveals, these incredible insects have much to teach us when it comes to collective wisdom and effective decision making. A remarkable and richly illustrated account of scientific discovery, Honeybee Democracy brings together, for the first time, decades of Seeley's pioneering research to tell the amazing story of house hunting and democratic debate among the honeybees.

>In the late spring and early summer, as a bee colony becomes overcrowded, a third of the hive stays behind and rears a new queen, while a swarm of thousands departs with the old queen to produce a daughter colony. Seeley describes how these bees evaluate potential nest sites, advertise their discoveries to one another, engage in open deliberation, choose a final site, and navigate together–as a swirling cloud of bees–to their new home. Seeley investigates how evolution has honed the decision-making methods of honeybees over millions of years, and he considers similarities between the ways that bee swarms and primate brains process information. He concludes that what works well for bees can also work well for people: any decision-making group should consist of individuals with shared interests and mutual respect, a leader's influence should be minimized, debate should be relied upon, diverse solutions should be sought, and the majority should be counted on for a dependable resolution.

>An impressive exploration of animal behavior, Honeybee Democracy shows that decision-making groups, whether honeybee or human, can be smarter than even the smartest individuals in them.

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Moderation Thread

Direct all hotpocket related inquiries here.

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Graphic Design And Infographic Templates Initiative

/leftypol/ seriously needs to step up its game in creating informative content that can be used for reusable refutations of /pol/ and other anticommunist propaganda. However, most people are not graphic designers and don't know how to make infographics that are attractive, readable, and well-organized (myself included). In order to make good graphic designs accessible to the wider /leftypol/ population, I'm calling on all artists on /leftypol/ to help contribute to a free and open source infographic tool kit and design guide. We should make it in the .xcf file format compatible with GIM, or Inkscape so that it is usable by the widest range of people for free, and doesn't phone home to Adobe.



Here is a starter file:


As well, I intend to use a custom CSS for this board. Our goals should be for it to be unobtrusive and simple, and for it to convey the same information that the default CSS does. People are welcome to suggest CSS rules for /leftypol/ to make it look better.

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FAQ and Rules

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/leftypol/'s magazine:




>How can you call yourselves leftist politically incorrect?

/leftypol/ posters are allowed to voice opinions that offend liberals, SJWs, and so on. All sects on the left are allowed to post on /leftypol/, leading to plenty of fighting and shitflinging between leftists, which other forums might ban. However, this was only a minor consideration in the naming of /leftypol/. Since the concept is simply a leftist version of /pol/, the entire name of /pol/ was retained.

>I'm not a leftist can I post here?

Non-leftists can come here to ask questions. Board moderation here is more focused on maintaining a good board index, so non-leftists have to be on better behavior as OP than they do as participants in someone else's thread. If you aren't b8ing or shitposting, your thread is likely to stay up.

>Are you liberals? Are you SJWs? Do you like Clinton? Are you all Zionists???

No liberals here. We hate the Democrat party.

As for Israel, leftism is anti-Zionist. It is not anti-Jew. Unlike /pol/, /leftypol/ fully supports Palestinians, and doesn't think they're "mudslimes."

Pretending to be an SJW or Zionist will very likely get you banned.

>Why did you leave /pol/ and why does this board exist?

/leftypol/ exists to help the 8chan community focus on leftist topics without being slid or flooded to death.

>Do you support gun control?

While posters on /leftypol/ have varying stances on gun control (training requirements, mental health checks, etc.), they are overwhelmingly in favor of arming the proletariat.

>Do you support "national" socialism?





-post cuckshit, "commies BTFO," or any of that kind of shit

-post any porn depicting underage (including drawings)

-deny the problems of climate change or imperialism

-attempt to cloak reactionary politics in left-wing rhetoric (Strasserism, "Nazbol" Strasserism, National "Socialism," Zionism, "Die cis scum"/"Kill all white men" SJW shit)

-voice support for NATO intervention, or explicitly state that you support imperialism in any context

-incite specific acts of terrorism or similar acts (use your head, don't act like a fed)


-be respectful, ask questions, and know your place if you're a reactionary

-feel free to flame, shitpost, and be sectarian if you are a leftist (just keep it somewhat within reason)

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muh lumpen darkies


> A group of migrant cleaners - who are members of the trade union United Voices of the World (UVW) - have just won a historic victory at the Daily Mail.

> muh immigration destroyed unions

> muh immigrants are scabs

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DOW Crashing

How can a lefty exploit this to their advantage? Is it too soon to try? DOW down about 1000 points since Thursday.


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>if you pay taxes or follow government regulations you don't own the means of production! America is SOCIALIST!

>no Capitalist nation exists on this planet today

>we haven't had capitalism since the Gilded Age!

How is this autism countered? If someone is truly dumb enough to think America is under socialism what can you do? Ignore them? This retard has 220K subs


Timestamp 31:45-33:40

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The CIA takeover of the Democratic Party


13 March 2018

>In a three-part series[ http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/07/dems-m07.html ] published last week, the World Socialist Web Site documented an unprecedented influx of intelligence and military operatives into the Democratic Party. More than 50 such military-intelligence candidates are seeking the Democratic nomination in the 102 districts identified by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee as its targets for 2018. These include both vacant seats and those with Republican incumbents considered vulnerable in the event of a significant swing to the Democrats.

>If on November 6 the Democratic Party makes the net gain of 24 seats needed to win control of the House of Representatives, former CIA agents, military commanders, and State Department officials will provide the margin of victory and hold the balance of power in Congress. The presence of so many representatives of the military-intelligence apparatus in the legislature is a situation without precedent in the history of the United States.

>Since its establishment in 1947—under the administration of Democratic President Harry Truman—the CIA has been legally barred from carrying out within the United States the activities which were its mission overseas: spying, infiltration, political provocation, assassination. These prohibitions were given official lip service but ignored in practice.

>In the wake of the Watergate crisis and the forced resignation of President Richard Nixon, reporter Seymour Hersh published the first devastating exposure of the CIA domestic spying, in an investigative report for the New York Times on December 22, 1974. This report triggered the establishment of the Rockefeller Commission, a White House effort at damage control, and Senate and House select committees, named after their chairmen, Senator Frank Church and Representative Otis Pike, which conducted hearings and made serious attempts to investigate and expose the crimes of the CIA, FBI and National Security Agency.

>The Church Committee in particular featured the exposure of CIA assassination plots against foreign leaders like Fidel Castro, Patrice Lumumba in the Congo, General Rene Schneider in Chile, and many others. More horrors were uncovered: MK-Ultra, in which the CIA secretly subjected unwitting victims to experimentation with drugs like LSD; Operation Mockingbird, in which the CIA recruited journalists to plant stories and smear opponents; Operation Chaos, an effort to spy on the antiwar movement and sow disruption; Operation Shamrock, under which the telecommunications companies shared traffic with the NSA for more than a quarter century.

>The Church and Pike committee exposures, despite their limitations, had a devastating political effect. The CIA and its allied intelligence organizations in the Pentagon and NSA became political lepers, reviled as the enemies of democratic rights. The CIA in particular was widely viewed as “Murder Incorporated.”

>In that period, it would have been unthinkable either for dozens of “former” military-intelligence operatives to participate openly in electoral politics, or for them to be welcomed and even recruited by the two corporate-controlled parties. The Democrats and Republicans sought to distance themselves, at least for public relations purposes, from the spy apparatus, while the CIA publicly declared that it would no longer recruit or pay American journalists to publish material originating in Langley, Virginia. Even in the 1980s, the Iran-Contra scandal involved the exposure of the illegal operations of the Reagan administration’s CIA director, William Casey.

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New thread for lefty podcast discussion

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Premium Cum Town:


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/leftytrash/: Once More

ITT: movies, anime, music, feels, e-celebs, internet drama, fetishes, shitposting, etc.

This is a voluntary thread that users can choose to post in, if… I forgot the rest of whatever the old OP was. Honestly, I just wanted to bring this old thread back.

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What does /leftypol/ think of worker owned companies?

are they effective means of securing workers rights?



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France thread

protests all over yesterday against railworker status reform

I'll post the fliers I picked up

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Daily News Thread 3/23

'Zionist hawk', 'stalwart friend': strong words greet Bolton nomination

U.S. President Donald Trump’s choice of John Bolton as national security adviser provoked strong reactions worldwide on Friday - and few stronger than in the bitterly-divided Middle East.


Senate Sends Trump $1.3 Trillion Spending Bill

The Senate narrowly averted a government shutdown by passing a $1.3 trillion spending bill early Friday that increases military and domestic spending and strengthens background checks for gun buyers.


Trump Threatens Veto of Spending Bill, Raising Shutdown Prospect

President Donald Trump said he’s considering a veto of the $1.3 trillion spending bill that won final passage by Congress Friday morning, contradicting his aides and raising the prospect that he’ll close the government over the failure to get a deal on immigration and his proposed border wall.


U.S. charges Iranians for global cyber attacks on behalf of Tehran

The United States on Friday charged nine Iranians and an Iranian company with attempting to hack into hundreds of U.S. and international universities, dozens of companies and parts of the U.S. government on behalf of the Tehran government.


China Hits Back on Trump Tariffs as Europe Off Hook for Now

The trade conflict between China and the U.S. escalated, with Beijing announcing its first retaliation against metals levies hours after President Donald Trump outlined fresh tariffs on $50 billion of Chinese imports and pledged there’s more on the way.


Europe Demands Permanent Waiver From U.S. Metal Tariffs

European Union leaders demanded a permanent EU exclusion from U.S. President Donald Trump’s metal-import tariffs and kept alive a threat to retaliate, highlighting persistent risks of a trans-Atlantic trade war.


Venezuela Announces Monetary Reforms as Petro Buoys Economy

President Nicolas Maduro also announced that new bills will be put into circulation in Venezuela, slashing the denominations by three zeros.


Paris says supermarket attacker known only for petty crimes as ISIS claims responsibility

The lone attacker who killed at least three people in southern France on Friday was known to the police for petty crimes but not for jihadist links, the French Interior Minister said. Islamic State claims it was behind the attack.


Kansas militia members wanted to kill Muslims -prosecutor

Three men charged with plotting to bomb an apartment complex in western Kansas, where Muslim immigrants from Somalia lived and had a mosque, wanted to kill as many as possible and send a message they were not welcome in the United States, a prosecutor said on Thursday.


Reddit: Guns, beer and tobacco transactions now banned

Gun Deals, Beer Trade and Cigar Market are three of the latest communities to be banned by Reddit in a move to distance the social website from transactions of "illicit or strictly controlled" goods.


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Moishe Postone Thread

> Most of the American Left uses the world "capitalism" but what they really mean is inequality, racism, sexism.

> You can have capitalism without the bourgeoisie, but you can't have capitalism without the proletariat.

> Marx didn't write a critique of society from the standpoint of labor. He wrote a critique of labor.

> We no longer have a compelling imaginary of what a post-work society would look like.

t. Postone

Who VALUE-CRITICISM GANG (Canadian faction) here?

If you don't know about his work, this video (which has nothing to do with Trump by the way) is a nice starting point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJIaze-C2Qs

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Xi tells China's parliament 'only socialism can save China'

President Xi Jinping reasserted the Communist Party's supremacy over his country Tuesday, telling the nation's parliament that "only socialism can save China" as it pursues development.

"History has already proven and will continue to prove that only socialism can save China," Xi said, adding later that the "Communist Party is the supreme political leadership of the country and the fundamental guarantee to achieve the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation."

Xi also warned against any efforts to split China, days after the United States approved rules that would allow top-level officials to travel to Taiwan.

"All acts and tricks to separate the country are doomed to fail and will be condemned by the people and punished by history," Xi said at the end of the country's annual parliamentary session.

He also sought to address concerns about Chinese development projects abroad, saying they "will not pose a threat to any country."


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Defining Capitalism

This might seem like a dumb, obvious question especially on a leftist board: What even is capitalism, anyway?

I personally believe how someone defines capitalism says more about their politics than whatever ideology they might describe themselves as. I mean, we all agree here that capitalism is a problem — but what if we don't even mean the same thing by "capitalism"…?

So, what do you think capitalism should be defined as? Please try to be as thorough and comprehensive as possible and to avoid unexplained or ambiguous jargon.

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Is a Traditional Communist Revolution Even Possible Anymore?

Looking back at the major successful revolutions of history (Even non-communist ones such as the American and French) There was always a historical group calling for revolution, the federalists in america, the jacobins in france, and the Bolsheviks/mensheviks in Russia. However we don't see this modern society, specifically when we look at first world countries, while revolutionary groups exist, there numbers are often pitiful in the grand scheme of things, barely reaching the numbers even the smallest revolutionary groups had in the 20th century. Is this a side effect of a democracy? The ability to quell any demand made by people, if not by solving it directly then promising to placate it. Even then, we saw active communist groups in America with some level of power to as late as the 50s. Is there any hope of these traditional revolutions still happening in the first world? Or are they lost causes?

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Where does /leftypol/ stand on abortions?

I know a lot of you think this is an idpol issue, but there is a sizeable population in the US who view the issue being equal with murder, and indeed there are LOTS of single-issue voters who vote Republican because they view everyone who doesn't support abortion bans as baby killers, be they neoliberals like Hillary or socdems like Bernie.

This has been largely ignored but just talking to any conservative family will reveal that it is a very important issue for them. Remember, in the US family planning centers are bombed by extremists with church funding. And I'm not just talking about rural whites; A non-insignificant number of latinos voted for Trump because of abortions.

So how do you balance your support for individual and women's rights with wanting to appeal to the working class?

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What does /leftypol/ think of Kyle Kulinski and Secular talk?

Also are there any other left-wing YouTube channels which /leftypol/ would recommend?

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Daily News Thread 3/22

Civil, Transit Workers Strike, Bringing Paris to a Standstill

French civil workers are staging a strike Thursday to protest President Emmanuel Macron's push for a series of controversial reforms, union workers are reporting.



John Dowd Resigns as Trump’s Lead Lawyer in Mueller Probe

John Dowd resigned as President Donald Trump’s lead attorney countering Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia probe as the inquiry into possible collusion in the 2016 election intensifies.


Trump set to announce China sanctions after IP probe

The Trump administration plans to announce sanctions against China on Thursday after determining that the country is encouraging the theft and transfer of intellectual property from US businesses.


China Considering Tariffs On US Agricultural Imports: Trade War Coming?

A global trade war is looming large as President Donald Trump gears up to announce tariffs on Chinese imports Thursday. The slated move is said to impose up to $60 billion in new duties on Chinese goods mainly targeting China’s high technology sector and intellectual property products to curb theft of U.S. technology, White House administration officials said this week.


Online Sex-Trafficking Measure Clears Congress, Goes to Trump

Congress passed a bill to combat online sex trafficking that has split the tech industry, bringing one of the first measures to weaken legal protection for websites closer to becoming law as Big Tech faces a mounting backlash in Washington.


Mexico’s Presidential Race Is Tightening, Poll Suggests

Mexico’s presidential candidate Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador is leading by only 5 percentage points in the latest opinion poll, a sign the race may be getting tighter as the July election draws near.


Ex-S. Korean President Lee arrested over corruption scandal

South Korean ex-President Lee Myung-bak was arrested and jailed early Friday over a range of corruption allegations, becoming the latest in a series of disgraced leaders embroiled in scandals and other problems after leaving office.


Peru’s Wise-Man President Toppled by Corruption He Had Pledged to End

Pedro Pablo Kuczynski resigns before impeachment, after videos.


U.S. to Shield Europe, Australia, Brazil From Steel Tariffs

The U.S. will shield a list of allies including Europe, Australia, South Korea, Argentina and Brazil from steel and aluminum tariffs that take effect on Friday, according to U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer.


House GOP to Push Farm Bill Linking Food Stamps to Job Training

House Republicans will pursue a law reauthorizing food assistance and farm subsidies without Democratic support after negotiations over changes to the so-called food-stamp program broke down, the chairman of the chamber’s Agriculture Committee said.


Turkey Gives Its Aggressive TV Censor Control Over the Web

Turkey’s parliament approved a new law on Wednesday that allows its radio and TV watchdog to vet Internet broadcasts, granting the government the ability to intervene against content by producers including Netflix.


YouTube gun ban drives bloggers to PornHub

YouTube has banned videos that show people how to manufacture or modify guns and their accessories.


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Toxic masculinity

So, I looked this term up, and apparently it was coined by a guy who was concerned that men, lacking father figures in their lives and in the media, were grounding their masculine identity in "toxic" media figures like action heroes and criminals they might see in movies, etc.

However, most people who use this term seem to use it to mean "masculinity is toxic" (despite their heavy insistence otherwise) and usually either can't think of a single example of "positive masculinity" or, if they have one, it's something so far from masculine they might as well be saying "don't be masculine". The best part, though, is when you're still implicitly expected to be traditionally masculine and the speaker clearly wants you to practice their "positive masculinity" somewhere else, like women wanting men to be more expressive and open about their feelings and insecurities, but with other men, not them.

Is there anything to the mainstream concept of "toxic masculinity" as it is currently used that's more than just giving a thin veneer of cultural critique to complaining about your ex-boyfriend?

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Why isn't every workers a socialist? Do they enjoy working for trillionare companies/magnates who evade tax while they receive no wage rise? Does it feel that good being deceived?

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Labor Vouchers

What are (and aren't) labor vouchers?

Are they an imperfect mean, a desirable end or neither of those?

Are they really distinct from money, and if so in what ways?

Are they today outdated, if they were ever relevant?

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LATE CAPITALISM THREAD 2: petty bourgeois edition

Last thread was "fun". I'd say it's worth another round.

Post and discuss examples of late capitalism.

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Use & Exchange

Exchange-value is predicated upon use-value; the labor that went into a commodity with no social utility could not possibly realize itself as value — it would be worthless, in all senses of the word. Is that correct? If so, then when do exchange-value and use-value "part ways", so that (as described in chapter 4 of Capital) use-values must never be looked upon as the real aim of the capitalist?

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Ripping Apart Jordan Peterson's Faux Intellectualism


>In this Majority Report clip, Nathan J. Robinson joins the show to discuss Jordan Peterson and what his whole deal is.

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What does the Japanese Communist Party aim to accomplish? And how?

The Liberal Democrats seem to have a total lock on institutional power, down to the most local level. The US occupies parts of their country and they are bound by humiliating and colonialist treaties, though not to the extent as South Korea. They also already have a pretty vigorous social democracy,

Yet they continue to stay a substantial opposition party and it looks like they're slowly gaining steam.

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What would Karl Marx write today?


/leftpol/, renounce leftism and become a marxist-capitalist-activist.It's the only pragmatic and pure ideology there is today.

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NYT: Stop Apologizing for Being Elite


>Gran has been in my thoughts even more than usual this year, because I know that she would have scoffed at one of the unanticipated consequences of the Trump presidency. I am referring to the endless self-flagellation among well-educated liberals — “the elites,” in pejorative parlance — about their failure to “get” the concerns of white working-class voters. Gran never expected anyone to “get” her. She was determined to educate herself for what she considered the privilege of citizenship.

>Our current political discourse is corrupted by two equally flawed narratives about the relationship between social class and politics. The first is a fable accepted by many intellectuals, who have found themselves guilty because just enough white working-class voters in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin handed Mr. Trump his Electoral College win in 2016. Many fear that this year’s midterm elections will once again result in a rejection of “elitism” by the same voters.

>In a second, equally flawed narrative — adopted by a segment of both blue-collar workers and intellectuals — the American working class is so victimized that almost none of its members are capable of accepting the responsibility of civic self-education.


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OC Thread 3.0

OC Thread 3.0

I suppose we should establish a new thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content.

Feel free to post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you would like to share.

Or, collaborate on improving content within this thread.

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How can anyone admire the Soviet Union (especially as a communist) when it utterly failed? For example, there was a conflict between family & state. The values of the state also did not translate into personal values. The hedonistic approach to life permeated all

spheres of Soviet society In the last two decades. occupational choice among the Soviet people has been increasingly shaped by the concern for an easy job, with good working conditions and a location where living standards were high. Stalin was also faced with an incentive issues for workers, and let's not forget the great queues people faced whenever they were to get basic necessities.

So, what are the reasons for Soviet Union admiration? They never achieved Communism and the people themselves were just as capitalist as Americans.

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Roo vs. Muke

Realistically, how likely is it that Roo will win against Muke by clearly demonstrating his point, rather than watching Muke fall flat on his face from inability to read? Not that Roo can read either, but Roo does a good job of repeating things verbatim, and I'm sure his ghostwriters are giving him a list of things to say right now.

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Neoliberal butthole "The Netherlands" legalizes assisted euthanasia


>At 2pm on 26 January, Aurelia Brouwers lay down on her bed to die. Clutching a toy pink dinosaur and listening to her favourite music, the 29-year-old drank her prescribed medication as close friends gathered round. “She asked me to lie next to her. She had a smile on her face, and then she went softly into sleep,” Sjoukje Willering told the Observer. “It was very serene and calm. It was beautiful.”

>Four hours earlier, Brouwers had posted her last message on Facebook. “I’m getting ready for my trip now. Thank you so much for everything. I’m no longer available from now on.” Brouwers died at home in the small Netherlands town of Deventer less than a month after being declared eligible for euthanasia under the country’s 2002 Termination of Life on Request and Assisted Suicide Act, which permits the ending of lives where there is “unbearable suffering” without hope of relief. Her death has triggered a fierce debate in a country that has one of the most permissive euthanasia laws in the world.

>For not only was Brouwers young, she did not have a terminal disease such as cancer. She suffered from psychiatric illnesses, including severe anxiety, depression, eating disorders and psychosis. She self-harmed and had attempted suicide numerous times. She had spent nearly three years as an inpatient at a psychiatric hospital, and had served time in prison for arson.

Everyone in the comments section supports it, and so does Richard Stallman in his autistic stallman.org website. So instead of organizing and revolting, 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧they🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 want to distract you with assisted euthanasia by asserting that the problem is not the system, it's you.

< Netherlands VAT (regressive sales tax): 21%

< National average price for 1-bedroom house/apartment: €260,000

< Still lacks universal health care

< Underfunded, poorly designed, heavily crowded public transport

< The beaches are muddy and polluted beyond belief

< Dutch are so "tolerant" they will not care if someone falls in the canal

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Leeft iedereen nog? Valt er wat the discussiëren?

Zijn er überhaupt wallonen en luxemburgers hier?

Ik zit eigenlijk te wachten op de volgende crash zodat er eindelijk wat gebeurd.

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Soldier Apologia (?)

It started as a massive shitpost on /leftpol/ but thinking about it, I'm not that wrong.

With the premise that I don't want to justify nazi, why we buy in the mainstream narrative of "IT HAPPEND BECASE EBIL KRAUTS"?

And why, if we have to buy in this narrative, we do not applied to americans too?

I feel like a massive faggot cross posting this way, but it's actually an interesting question.

Why we and the rad left in general would not accept Wehrmacht, Nazi or Ex reich citizens, even if converted, in their organizations and rankings but no one say shit about americans?

This is valid for imperial Japan too, the narrative of "every citizen and soldier is guilty" would justify the dropping of two nukes on civilians. Let that sink

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Former French President Sarkozy arrested for working with Gaddafi

Literally /ourguy/

>He is to be questioned as part of a probe into suspected irregularities over his election campaign financing, according to an official in the French judiciary.

>The probe related to alleged Libyan funding for Sarkozy's 2007 campaign, Le Monde newspaper reported.

>Sarkozy is said to have received the kickbacks in 2007 during the presidential election campaign that swept him to power for a single five-year term


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Have Holocaust and Genocide studies turned into the ultimate rad centrist hang-outs? I sort of got this impression when I was reading through this otherwise excellent website on the Holocaust and it seems like the authors are just as hard-up against anti-Zionists and "Stalinists" as they are against revisionists and Neo-Nazis.


It's sort of made me reflect on a lot of the Holocaust literature I've read. I think Finkelstein wasn't far from the mark when he said that Zionist narratives and interpretations of history are rife in that field but going even further then that it just seems very liberal in outlook. The argument is frequently made that the Holocaust happened because the Germans were racists who were jealous of Jewish sucess–in fact, the amount of property appropriated from the Jews by the Nazis while large in absolute size is actually surprisingly modest when one considers they plundered the property of millions of Jews.

It seems though that the point of genocide studies is to drive home the idea that anything other than a liberal society leads to "genocide" as defined by genocide gurus. So, if a communist revolution ended up killing a large number of liberals that would ipso facto be counted as a genocide.

It just doesn't seem like you have to believe in anything to be a part of that field but mainly you have to view history as a giant crime that we must continually attempt to redeem ourselves from. Genocides committed by liberal societies can be safely eschewed by either denying them outright 1. US genocide in Iraq, Vietnam, and Korea or 2. claiming thats not real liberalism/adding in a touch of post-colonial rhetoric.

It seems nothing seems to tick them off more than "conspiracy theories" not because of their obvious deficiencies as a form of historical/political analysis but mainly because of their suggestion that not everything is well under the liberal world order. Even what counts as "genocide" is politicized as it seems the types who take genocide studies seriously will believe anything Amnesty International says about Assad or the official narrative in Rwanda. But what if one holds that the Syrian/Libyan rebels actually are genocidal and have committed genocide? It seems to me that those complaints would fall on deaf ears should one try to lodge them with a genocide scholar.

It seems to me that the field proceeds from a false premise in supposing that contradictions between ethnic groups are more important than contradictions between classes. Maybe I'm wrong here but it just seems like you'd be hard-pressed to get a real class analysis from people like this, genocides in history happened not because the ruling class of one group desired it but mainly because of intolerance between groups. So, it seems the answer to all of our problems is mandatory sensitivity training for every world citizen!

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The Best Movie i have ever seen.


>But muh Kidnapped Director

Still Worlds Best Movie ever made

Praise The Supreme leader

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Northern Ireland

>32 County Sovereignty Movement - socialist

>Anti-Austerity Alliance–People Before Profit - socialist

>Communist Party of Ireland - communist

>éirígí - socialist

>Irish Republican Socialist Party - socialist

>Republican Sinn Féin - socialist

>Sinn Féin - socialist

>Social Democratic and Labour Party - socdem

>Workers' Party - socialist

>Saoradh - socialist

How is it possible that one small country can have so many left-wing parties that hold such similar positions? Also, does Northern Ireland (per capita) have the most left-wing parties?

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I hate these fucking retards telling me that Kazakhstan isn't European. I live in Oral, Kazakhstan which is located in Europe NOT ASIA. Despite part of Kazakhstan being in Asia we are Europeans. We should be allowed to join the EU.

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Is it wrong for a leftist to think of right wing thinkers such as Carl Schmitt and Nick Land as true intellectuals worth reading?

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Capitalist Propaganda That Justify Gulags


>Texans actually love income inequality!

This is either the most blatant and disgusting propaganda in the world, or evidence that Americans are irredeemable.

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The case of Singapore

So how come Lee Kwan Yew could implement actual working capitalism on a poor, landless and resourceless postcolonial shithole surrounded by enemies wishing to subdue it, and make it one of the richest countries in the world?

Reminder that Lee Kwan Yew was:

-fiercely anticommunist and refused to establish relations with the Chinese Communist Party, calling it illegitimate

-a profound libertarian and social darwinist

-a race realist who promoted chinese immigration because he thought malays and indians were dumber

-quoted with saying America shouldn't waste money on blacks because their capabilities are limited

-banned porn and introduced sumptuary laws to curb fun

-thought democracy was not for nonwhites and ruled with a firm iron fist

-made Singapore richer than Germany and Japan in less than 4 decades

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NeoCon Liberals /BTFO/

After a video by Pierre Tru-Dank against the liberal war hawk position directed at Nightmare Fuel (A new Atheist liberal e-celeb skeptic break off who holds American interventionist positions) they are in a complete state of JUST. With Nightmare Fuel sperging out on twitter about muh ebul gommies, which got spammed by memes.

Pierre's video


Nightmare Fuel's tweet


And also ITT discuss Liberal Interventionism


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LeftyBritPol - Tory JUST Edition


"I read the news today oh boy

The tories were planning to oust her again

And then the news was rather glad

And I had to laugh

When I saw Boris in the photograph"

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>welfare isn't socialism

>therefore we must write off & discredit any social programs that may help the proletariat

there are people on this board who actually jump to this conclusion

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How do you expect communism to fix the problem of capitalist parasite or whatever ? You know you'll need people to oversee and manage whatever the workers produce right ? You know that this will only create another class above the workers that will just end up "parasiting" them again ?

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How to Recruit and Indoctrinate People

Tell me how I would recruit and indoctrinate people into a political organization. Ideological particularities won't matter here.

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>God Tier


>High Tier



>Mid Tier



>Low Tier


>Fuck You Tier


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Is there a certain way to talk to Trump supporters/alt righters that would get them to actually listen to you rather than shitting their pants and calling you a cuck?

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/dprk/ -- North Korea General

Thread for discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Disproving common western myths about North Korea.

Archive of first ~500 posts:


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In the early 90s I cheered when the USSR dissolved, but now I only weep for it.

And so I must ask the question, how?

How did the USSR get corrupted by liberalism? You could argue Brezhnev, Stalin, Khrushchev, or the succession crisis that led to Gorbachev. But how? I still wonder this even as someone who remains critical of the USSR, but yet I weep for it’s dissolution. How?

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Daily News Thread 3/21

Austin Bombings Suspect Blows Himself Up As SWAT Team Closes In

The police confirmed in a press conference on Wednesday, the suspect in the Austin bombings case died when he detonated a bomb inside his own vehicle.


Austin Suspect ID'd as Mark Anthony Conditt


Kidnapped Dapchi schoolgirls freed in Nigeria

The majority of the 110 Nigerian schoolgirls kidnapped by militants in the town of Dapchi last month have been returned, the government says.


Surgeon David Nott: Hack led to Syria air strike

A British surgeon who helped Syrian doctors online has told the Telegraph he fears his computer was hacked, leading to an air strike on a hospital.


Israel Finally Owns Responsibility For Syrian Nuclear Facility Bombing, After a Decade

After almost a decade-long silence, Israel has acknowledged that its air force was responsible for blowing up the Syrian nuclear reactor called Al Kibar in the area of Deir Ezzor in September 2007.


NHS pay: Unions agree deal for 1.3 million staff

More than one million NHS staff, including nurses, porters and paramedics, are being offered increases of at least 6.5% over three years - with some getting as much as 29%.


Zimbabwe Grants Some Prisoners Amnesty as Jails Overcrowded

Zimbabwean President Emmerson Mnangagwa ordered an amnesty for prisoners including women who’re not serving life sentences and juveniles, potentially easing overcrowding in the southern African nation’s jails.


Senate Scuttles Yemen Measure as Saudi Prince Meets With Trump

The Senate scuttled a resolution opposed by the Trump administration that called on the U.S. military to stop aiding US-Saudi bombing in Yemen, acting the same day President Donald Trump and top lawmakers met with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.


Saudi Arms Buyers Won a $3.5 Billion Discount From the Pentagon

President Donald Trump says the Saudis are a “big purchaser” of American arms. A $3.5 billion discount they won from the Pentagon last year in buying an anti-missile system for $15 billion shows they’re also adept at tapping into the Pentagon’s generosity.


Trump EPA Plans New Restrictions on Science Used in Rule Making

The Environmental Protection Agency is preparing to restrict the scientific studies it uses to develop and justify regulations, making it harder to rely on research when its underlying data are shielded from view.


A Holocaust denier and former Nazi Party leader just became the Republican nominee for Congress in Chicago

Arthur Jones, a prolific Holocaust denier and former American Nazi Party leader, officially clinched the Republican Party nomination in Illinois' 3rd Congressional district in the suburbs of Chicago, CNN reported.


Justine Damond shooting: US policeman charged with murder

US prosecutors have laid a murder charge against a policeman who shot and killed an unarmed Australian woman.


Teacher who called military 'lowest of low' is fired

A Southern California teacher and councilman who sparked national outcry after saying that American troops are "the lowest of our low" was fired Tuesday evening.


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Quick aside from the market memery:

Are there any real-world, working examples of SNLT? Has it ever left the heady realm of theory as a method of planning?

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How do Anarchist Organize

Anarchist of /leftypol/ tell me the structure of platformist anarchist organizations. Are they similar to other forms of voluntary associations with a voting membership, board, and elected officers?

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Right wingers keep asserting it's not up to the government to provide for the life sustaining services, but rather it's up to charities. It's basically their default argument whenever I debate them on social programs like nationalized healthcare, food and shelter. How does /leftypol/ suggest retorting this fallacy?

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>Every day across America marriages begin, and every day marriages end. Usually not the same marriages. Different marriages are starting or ending on any one given day. Anyway, the ones that do end are for all types of reasons: lack of communication, intimacy issues, and diverging priorities or visions for the future. Sometimes it’s not one person’s fault. Sometimes it’s definitely one person’s fault. And for some very specific people, everything was fine until one person got mixed up in a little Web site called Twitter.

>Page Six has reported that Donald Trump Jr. and his wife, Vanessa, are on the path to divorce. They spoke to various “friends” and people “close to the couple,” and have armchair-diagnosed them with a couple issues. One is that since Junior’s dad became president, suddenly everything was not “low-key,” the way Vanessa likes it, but instead, extremely high-key all the time. A second issue is that Junior has always traveled a lot, and he’s traveling even more these days: hunting big game, running the Trump Organization, at jury duty, hawking luxury condos in India. And the third is that Don Jr.’s tweets have grown more unhinged.

>These friends are concerned, pointing especially to the fact that he liked tweets linking antidepressants to school shootings. The couple declined to comment to the Post’s multiple requests for comments, and Don Jr. has not yet tweeted about it as of writing.

>She suddenly demanded divorce

>“The problems have been there for a long time, the couple had hoped to stay together during the president’s time in office, but it is getting harder to resolve their issues. He’s never there for his family, ever”


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Fig 1.

>tfw finally bought Das Kapital

Fig 2.

>tfw realized that i was too dumb to read it

What should i read instead? I basically know nothing about Marxist theory

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>humanity achieve fully automated capitalism

>the super-rich kill everyone else, because they are useless to them and a threat


>full communism

It is a possible scenario? How do you feel about that?

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Abortion in socialism

How will we handle abortion in socialism?

after i saw 2 bait threads saying that abordion is bad :DDD I realy wanna dive in this subject should ban all abortion like in the Stalin Era and some Warsaw Pact countries like Romania should we let our population grow as much as possible? or should we make it legal with no regulations?personaly i think we abortion should be legal with regulations.A mother cannot a abort a child that is:

>perfectly healthy

>not made trough rape

and the choice of aborting a child that was made trough rape or unhealthy should belong to the mother .I want to hear more opinions about this

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Is the science of genetics today accurate and truthful, or is genetics just a bourgeois pseudoscience?

Was Lysenko correct? Or just insane?

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Is there a obscure/theoretical idea that is more "left" than communism?

If so what is it. It can be argued that communism is just the level 2 of the iceberg and all of us have yet to discover the obscure esoteric shit, the type of stuff that has terminology that seems like it came from a foreign language to Earth.

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Zizek is fucked

Pic related is his face now. Vid related is his speech. Probably Bell's palsy.


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Nordic Utopias

what is the non-turd worldist explanation for this


Here is the UN's annual World Happiness report

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Putin won again today, to the surprise of no one. Is Putin /ourguy/? I am always suspicious when millionaire pundits lock arms to promote Russophobia. I hope next election he will hack it in favor of Bernie.

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Navalny hate thread

>mfw I called for the indiscriminate deportation of georgians from my country

>mfw I called them "rodents"

>mfw I supported Putin's imperialism until I could use it as leverage against him

>mfw I co-organized the Russian march that endorsed nazis and racists

>mfw my only moment of relevancy was that one time I polled 20% in a regional election 5 years ago

>mfw I have never polled over 15% nationally, nor have I garnered 40% name recognition, even by the most generous results

>mfw I'm presented by the western media as "muh moderate, pro-west, pro-freedom main opposition" so as to not admit the most appealing alternative to Putin right now for the russian people is a social democrat registered in the Communist Party

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Bayer's takeover of Monsanto

What are the implications of this?

The European Commission has given its blessing to the €54 billion deal, despite opposition from farmers and environmental groups. The acquisition will create the world's largest integrated pesticides and seeds company.


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Post your PolitiScales! What do you think of mine, comrades?


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In the courses of the dialectical process of society, what do you intellectuals think would be the next synthesis after a full Communist society considering (at least to my knowledge) there is no theory proceeding Communism?

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Why was he such a grumpy butt?

In all the personal letters I’ve read by him and l the accounts I’ve seen, he always comes across as somebody you might respect, but never be friends with because he might bite your head off if you disagree with him on something.

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A lot of people simply treat socialism/leftism as a phase, like being into a certain genre of music or a certain subculture/lifestyle. Ex: look at eastern marxist, he went from Liberal - Conservative - Libertarian - Ancap - SocDem - Anarchist - LibSoc - Marxist - Leninist - ML - MLM - Post Keynesian/Liberal - TradCath in the span of only 2 years.

I always wondered why leftist political parties kept the youth branch (<30) separate from the main party. Now I know why. Young people are in an identity formation phase and their politics have less to do with being convinced one way or another based on a cogent argument they read (theory) than with 'trying on an identity'. This is fucking cancerous. As a guy in his late 20s I have seen lots of young people come and go from 'the movement'. I can't get emotionally invested or form friendships with any of those people even as a mentor because many of them abandon their beliefs for no apparent reason with an unbelievable flippancy.

To quote Lenin,

>"I must say that the tasks of the youth in general, and of the Young Communist Leagues and all other organisations in particular, might be summed up in a single word: learn."

TBH anyone in the high school or college age range should become temporary bordigists and work out/stay fit, go to the shooting range, practice boxing or mma (or some other combat sport/martial art) and most of all READ THEORY and learn shit so by the time you're old enough to be a serious activist you aren't an illiterate brainlet.

Hot take: no one under 25 should be allowed as permanent (or especially leadership) members of a political organization. They can be provisional members and participate in study groups, etc. If some teenager or college kid tries to join up with your group the first thing you should hand them is a reading list, and invite them to a study group. If they get bored and leave then so be it, they weren't serious to begin with. Student activists, 90% of the time, and up being unserious and cancerous to boot, prove me wrong

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Cambridge Analytica Fallout

TLDR: Data companies used social media data to target voters with tailored ads and media to influence dozens of elections around the globe for political customers while also offering services to entrap political opponents

Guardian article:

>The company at the centre of the Facebook data breach boasted of using honey traps, fake news campaigns and operations with ex-spies to swing election campaigns around the world, a new investigation reveals.

>Executives from Cambridge Analytica spoke to undercover reporters from Channel 4 News about the dark arts used by the company to help clients, which included entrapping rival candidates in fake bribery stings and hiring prostitutes to seduce them.


Original channel 4 report:


Facebook stock crashing:


Pressure mounts over British parliamentary inquiry


Guardian updates:


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We dont have to

Any ideas on how to coopt pepe or make our own version like we could use aggretseko or we could use SCXRLXRD's facial expressions at emotes???

i jist think that'd make it a bit easier to cut through the bullshit

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a Discord server

hey, comrades

looking for a discord server which isnt full of nazbols can raided by nazis? and is friendly, chill and active? then your search is done! check this place out


(I must upload a picture so I took a random one)

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How To Create a Lasting Revolution

Is there any template for a revolution or any historical precedence for its most effective form? It seems to me that essentially all socialist revolutions have occurred in nations that are; 1) Not fully industrialized. 2) Semi-feudal or transitioning to capitalism. 3) Mired in economic instability or war.

None of these attempts have created lasting socialism or socialism that is immune to revisionists. This applies to both communist countries and smaller attempts at anarchism. I know that I'm generalizing a lot here but is there a modern socialist revolution which does not fall into this category?

Furthermore, none of these conditions apply to countries at the head of capitalism, the ones leading to to its newest stages. Is it even possible to create a revolution in these imperialist countries or does their exploitation make them nigh invulnerable?

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Post images/stories/videos about daily lives in ex socialist states

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Cockshott General

Please restrict the discussion to his works and the content he puts out on his new Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVBfIU1_zO-P_R9keEGdDHQ

Speaking of, here's his newest: "Going Beyond Money"


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Draw and tan related stuff, "Turbo" edition.

The previous thread got nuked.



Come here draw friends to request and deliver.

Remember to post your shit in the booru:


Some character references:




Bonus: http://dis.4chanhouse.org/gen/src/145642090121.png

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>Right-wingers used to discuss conspiracy theories about FEMA concentration camps and mass-murder at the hands of a fascist government

>Only 5 years later, they're now in favor of death camps and mass-murder at the hands of a fascist government, to the point of making music videos in support of it and imagining themselves taking part in mass-murder

How did such a large political group do a complete 180 in such a short time?

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Societies and cultures are complex systems whose norms gradually arise to solve for the general problems of life. These norms are always emergent and never rationally designed. Because humans have a sense of reason too deficient to understand the whole design of society, any "norms" they sit down and decide will inevitably be counterproductive. All of Western political culture and the Enlightenment assume the exact opposite, and their objective is to destroy all aspects of society that they cannot find superficial reason for. The Enlightenment has given inordinate power to the opnion-molding class and academia because of this. The "rational management" that comes from this gives us routine financial crises, failed wars, state-sponsored pharmaceuticals and most everything else terrible about the modern world.

Communism BTFO

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Accurate Animal Farm

A lot of people on this board hate le pig book. What would the book's plot be if it accurately portrayed the the Russian Revolution and the Soviet Union?

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Child Pornography found in Bitcoin could threaten it's very existence

>Researchers in Germany discovered that the ledger system that provides the backbone for Bitcoin contains hundreds of links to child pornography and at least one image thought to be child pornography.

>Individual blocks in the overall “chain” store records of transactions and can potentially store small notes or files—often the notes are just used to acknowledge what the transaction was for. The researchers set out to study the approximately 1,600 files that were stored on the blockchain at the time. (We say, “at the time,” because more files may have been added recently, not because those 1,600 files might be gone. The idea of the blockchain is that the ledger is permanent.)

>The team found that 99 percent of the files consisted of either text or an image and a relatively small number of files contained sexual content—only eight. But one of those files was identified as a pornographic image of a subject who was likely underage. Two other files contained a total of 274 links to child abuse, 142 of those links directed to the dark web.

>As the Guardian points out, Interpol warned in 2015 that the blockchain has the potential to spread malware files, but the issue of child pornography is more explosive by orders of magnitude.


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How do you cope with fact that we'll most likely never witness a major communist revolution in our lifetime?

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Daily News Thread 3/17

FBI ex-deputy director Andrew McCabe sacked days before retirement

Former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe has been sacked days before he could retire with pension rights.


Russia spy poisoning: 23 UK diplomats expelled from Moscow

Russia is to expel 23 British diplomats in a row over the nerve agent attack on an-ex spy and his daughter in the UK.


New European sanctions would affect nuclear deal: Iran official

Any new European sanctions against Iran will have a direct effect on the nuclear deal struck between world powers and Tehran, Iran’s deputy foreign minister said Friday, according to state media.


China says resolutely opposed to new U.S. law on ties with Taiwan

China’s Foreign Ministry on Saturday expressed its “resolute opposition” after U.S. President Donald Trump signed legislation that encourages the United States to send senior officials to Taiwan to meet Taiwanese counterparts and vice versa.


Bullets That Killed Brazil Activist Franco 'Bought by Police'

The ammunition was apparently stolen and has been used in more than 50 crimes since, a source told Reuters on condition of anonymity.


One Candidate Murdered Every Four Days in Mexico Elections: OAS

The local journal registered at least 55 murders of pre-candidates from all parties during the same period and 83 assaults.


Talks on trillion-dollar US budget bill reach crucial stage

Top-level congressional talks on a $1.3 trillion catchall spending bill are reaching a critical stage as negotiators confront immigration, abortion-related issues and a battle over a massive rail project that pits President Donald Trump against his most powerful Democratic adversary.


Jailhouse video shows deputies watching, laughing as inmate dies

Jailhouse video shows California sheriff’s deputies watching and sometimes laughing as a schizophrenic man who had been strapped naked to a chair for 46 hours writhes on the floor of his cell, loses consciousness and eventually dies.


Hacker who gave up Wikileaks source dies

Adrian Lamo, a computer hacker best known for passing on information that led to the arrest of Chelsea Manning, has died aged 37.


A US City Has Banned Cryptocurrency Mining For Draining Electricity

For the first time, cryptomining has been banned by a city in the United States. The process of earning cryptocurrency will no longer be allowed in the city of Plattsburgh, New York, city officials announced this month.


Jersey City's 4,000-member teachers union strikes for first time since 1998

Jersey City's public-school teachers walked off the job for the first time in 20 years today, leading to confusion and some chaos across the 29,000-student district as teachers led boisterous protests outside city schools.


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Small Business Owners

Ok I have a question:

Lets say a man was born into poverty. Ran away from his abusive home to a big city. Learnt English, studied his craft from books, and got into a free government university (yes that's a thing Burgers), graduated top of his class, started interning in a company, promoted to a high position over years, then left the company to own his own business.

Now he runs an agency with 10-15 workers, pays them all above standard wage for the position and is a very well liked boss.

He came from literal poverty to earning 300-400k$ a year, solely on his own merit.

Is this man our enemy? Solely because he owns a business? I am legitimately asking because he is my father and I am in a dilemma now that I'm in college.

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Make 4chan anarchistic again!

In the old days of 4chan it has always had sympathy with left leaning politics and anarchy in general.

I can't stand my favorite website being put in the trash of the right wing.

I ask of you /leftypol/ to help me destroy the right wing influence on 4chan.

We should start to subvert boards that already are to some degree leftist, like /lit/ and /int/.

Then we should move to /r9k/ and /pol/.

Don't push it too hard on them, just inplement it for a start. Make threads and comments that don't literaly say that you are an anarchist, only say left leaning opinions.

Actively reply to threads and spread our way of true freedom

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So apparently the Zapatista's are running a women in the Mexican elections.

this is a huge step away from Foco theory and what they originally used to represent.

can someone sum up to me the differences ideologically between the zapatistas when they first formed and now? hows the group different, did they used to be hardcore?

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Climate Change General

I sadly noticed that the cyclical thread about climate change [CC] got buried, while the majority of this community clearly accepts the danger it means to humanity in general. The thread in question started to share info and perspectives I thought were invaluable and sadly it went bankrupt due to a lack of activity. This shouldn't be the case. Comrades here know that CC is one of the – if not the – main crisis of the 21st century, so I kindly ask the vols & BO to consider stickying and making cyclical this thread!

Please, share and discuss everything related to this topic, and let us hope that the worst scenario doesn't come!

Pic related is a form of theoretical agitation: how to think about nature without making it into another form of the Other, that is, "Nature". Also, the pdf shared is a guide for radicals on what kind of subjective position we should occupy as radicals to be effective in our endeavor countering the fact of possibly fatal CC.

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business owner

i own my own business with a mate its 50% share and we do equal work we pay ourselfs below minimum wage do you hate us lefty pol

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GOP to Run Former Nazi Party Leader Into Chicago's Mid Terms

Republican candidate Arthur Jones, a Holocaust denier, will be the GOP's nominee in a suburban Chicago congressional district after he ran in Tuesday's primary unopposed.

>Jones's campaign website contains a section called "The Holocaust Racket" in which he argues that there is "no proof such a so-called 'Holocaust' ever took place anywhere in Europe against the Jews" and that Jews are "directly responsible for the murder of at least 300 million people."

>Jones in February told the Chicago Sun-Times that he's a former leader of the American Nazi Party.

>Jones will run against either current Rep. Dan Lipinski (D-Ill.) or Marie Newman, the advertising executive challenging Lipinski from his left. No matter who wins the Democratic primary, that candidate will be the virtual lock to hold the seat thanks to both the strong Democratic leanings of the district and Jones's record.

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Why is the venezulean administration so mediocre?

I know the price of oil is much lower than it used to be, but Venezuela still exports it, and many countries buy oil from them. But how can sit on the world's biggest oil deposit and not take advantage of the situation? Also, please understand that this isn't a problem of socialism, I'm not even implying that, but how does the government not do anythlng? And yeah, you could argue that if they start exploiting that oil the US has a high chance of intervening, but wouldn't it be on their best interest to exploit it for as long as possible? Could this just be a result of south americans being incompetent? I mean, as a chilean, we joke about ourselves being incompetent and mediocre, I get the feeling it's similar in most of South America.

I doubt the USSR would've missed an opportunity like this

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Why Bookchinism is so relevant on here?

Seriously, what's up with that?

Irl I never met anyone who even knows Bookchin.

Not that I know many anarchist to begin with, but the few I met didn't know what I was talking about.

Also what are the most common critiques to this meme? Is it even worth calling ideology?

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Is there room for comedy in leftism?

This guy was arrested and thrown into prison for training his dog to do something for the intent of humor. His intent clearly wasn't to call for genocide, it was sarcastic humor lampooning nazis.

Regardless, according to tenets of leftism, he was judged guilty.

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Christian Socialism

I'm a devout Christian and i'm looking for information on Christian socialism, does anyone have anything?

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Far-Left Sectarian Anarcho-Egoism with Micronational and Panarchist Tendencies

This may just be the most ridiculous idea I have ever thought of but I think it is worth a shot for me to share it here. I present to you Far-Left Sectarian Anarcho-Egoism with Micronational and Panarchist Tendencies.

Before explain what this idea is I will explain our current situation here in the far-left. We are fragmented and divided, a Untied Front is hard to form and a Popular Front probably impossible. We constantly split due to autistic differences and there is very little chance we shall meet a "2nd Lenin" who, due to extreme charisma and historical luck would unite the left against all of its enemies. So this idea I propose is meant to be seen as a very very messy variant of a "United Front". So this is what it is.

Basically I assume most if not nearly all of us here either are not leaders of a far-left group, are only members of a far-left group, or are currently leaders of small far-left groups. Substantially large (Non-Revisionist) far-left groups don't really exist in the west. It is only getting worse now that people are constantly splitting up due to new tendencies and theories they are adding with their ideological soup.

So instead of attempting (and very unlikely to succeed) to unite all leftist groups into one big group, we should organize in a confederal manner with any far-left group (regardless of tendency), this we all know is a United Front. Here is the second part. If anyone splits and forms a new Far-Left group, they should still be part of this overall large confederation (Anarcho-Egoist Inspired Aspect with the Union of Egoists idea Applied to Sectarian Far-Left Groups). United Fronts are hard to form since the ☭TANKIE☭s and Anarkiddies would argue and in-fight about what to do if they win. Now here is where I think perhaps there is a way to ease tension.

Panarchism, also known as Micronationalism, is an odd phenomenon/ideology where everyone chooses their ideal government system and just live under its rules no matter where there house is. Each Sectarian Far-Left Group would control territory based on their membership. Meaning if I have 10 members, the land they occupy/use is part of my group's control. If another group has 1000 members, their territory that the many members occupy/use is their territory to control.

This might never work but perhaps with peer pressure from all the factions, violent infighting won't occur amongst the sectarian groups as long as they respect the panarchist aspects of the rule. Everyone can gang up one one who violates this. Any Thoughts?

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Leftism Forever Destroyed

How will you ever Reconver???

Lookks Like we ghot you now


Try and Prove this Infograp wrong:

Hint: YOU CANT LOL!!!!11

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Media War On Russia

Anyone else notice that all private news and info channels on YouTube have an Anti-Russian bias?

Every video on Russia is inherently negative.

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what if...

what if the US government is putting fent into heroin to target working class communities as an act of class war?

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>No free health care

>No free education

>For-profit prisons

>Psychiatry and Big Pharma shilling everywhere

is this country hell on earth? it's basically just people swindling and betraying each other for profit. And then you have people who actually DEFEND it, like what the fuck.

Now i can understand why Anglos are assholes.

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If the US goes communist won't there be 100 years of endless war with capitalist powers?


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Allright. I've been eating up the western narrative and I'd like some WOKE ☭TANKIE☭s to redpill me on whats REALLY going on in crimea.

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Whats everyone's take on Richard Wolff? I gets meme'd hear a lot and I watched his hour and a half lecture Crisis and Openings: Introduction to Marxism but he really didn't say much relating to Marxism or Socialism. He did talk about things like production and wages in a very liberal way not socialist

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>40 years ago Kurdish nationalists were trained by the PFLP and had good relations with anti-US countries like Syria and the Islamic Republic of Iran

>now they host US bases in their territory

All memes aside, what went wrong? Is the cult of personality around Ocalan strong enough that he single-handedly changed the ideology of his followers? Were Kurdish groups infiltrated by western tools? Or were they always unprincipled, and it just took until now to manifest the way it did?

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Cartier boss with $7.5bn fortune says prospect of the poor rising up 'keeps him awake at night'

> The multi-billionaire owner of luxury jewellery company Cartier has revealed his greatest fear – robots replacing workers and the poor rising up to bring down the rich.

> Speaking at the Financial Times Business of Luxury Summit in Monaco (obviously), the fashion tycoon told his fellow elite that he can’t sleep at the thought of the social upheaval he thinks is imminent.

> According to Bloomberg, Johann Rupert told the conference to bear in mind that when the poor rise up, the middle classes won’t want to buy luxury goods for fear of exposing their wealth.

> He said he had been reading about changes in labour technology, as well as recent Oxfam figures suggesting the top 1 per cent of the global population now owns more wealth than the other 99 per cent.

> “How is society going to cope with structural unemployment and the envy, hatred and the social warfare?” he said. “We are destroying the middle classes at this stage and it will affect us. It’s unfair. So that’s what keeps me awake at night.”

Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/cartier-boss-with-75bn-fortune-says-prospect-poor-rising-up-keeps-him-awake-at-night-10307485.html#commentsDiv

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Daily News Thread 3/20

Texas explosions: FBI investigate new blast at FedEx plant

US authorities are investigating whether a parcel bomb that exploded at a FedEx depot in Texas on Tuesday is connected to a suspected serial bomber.


Maryland high school shooter dies after exchange with officer

A student who shot and critically wounded two fellow students at a Maryland high school on Tuesday morning, has died after exchanging gunfire with a campus security officer, the county sheriff said.


US Supreme Court Gives Green Light to Flint Water Lawsuits

The U.S. Supreme Court gave Monday the green light to two class-action lawsuits filed by residents of Flint, Michigan who are pursuing civil rights claims against local and state officials over lead contamination in the city's water supply.


Uber, Ola drivers strike in India for higher pay

Drivers for app-based cab aggregators Uber and Ola started an indefinite strike across India on Monday, demanding extra pay as a surge in the number of cabs on the two platforms, coupled with cutbacks in incentive payments, have stung drivers.


South Korean K-Pop Singers to Perform in North Korea

South Korea said Tuesday it will send a 160-member artistic group to North Korea, including about 10 celebrated K-Pop singers, for rare concerts there.


Cambridge Analytica: Mark Zuckerberg asked to appear before MPs

Facebook boss Mark Zuckerberg has been called on by a parliamentary committee to give evidence about the use of personal data by Cambridge Analytica.


FTC Probing Facebook for Use of Personal Data, Source Says

Facebook Inc. is under investigation by a U.S. privacy watchdog over the use of personal data of 50 million users by a data analytics firm to help elect President Donald Trump.


Xi Gives Stark Taiwan Warning in Hands-Off Message to Trump

Chinese President Xi Jinping warned that efforts to widen divisions with Taiwan would be “punished by history” in a nationalistic speech to mark the start of his second term.


Trump to boost exports of lethal drones to more U.S. allies

President Donald Trump will soon make it easier to export some types of lethal U.S.-made drones to potentially dozens more allies and partners, according to people familiar with the plan.


Telegram Loses Bid to Block Russia From Encryption Keys

Telegram, the encrypted messaging app that’s prized by those seeking privacy, lost a bid before Russia’s Supreme Court to block security services from getting access to users’ data, giving President Vladimir Putin a victory in his effort to keep tabs on electronic communications.


Mississippi passes strictest abortion law

Mississippi's governor has just signed into law the tightest abortion restrictions in the US.


Northern white rhino: Last male Sudan dies in Kenya

The world's last surviving male northern white rhino has died after months of poor health, his carers say.


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What a coincidence!

All we liberals love Harry Potter. This is just too big to be a coincidence. Perhaps we were wrong about this guy?

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Hahahaha the Soviets got one tapped by the wehrmacht. They kept falling for encirclement tactics and only won because they had more land to adjust and get the wehrmacht lost and because the Americans gave them all their arms ahahahahaha

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Post and discuss your best examples of late stage capitalism, /leftypol/. Let's hope it won't be as cancerous as the subleddit.

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Self-defense during protests

I'm making this thread to share *defensive* (not offensive) techniques comrades could employ for protests when we are threatened by the cops, white supremacists, or anyone who would threaten leftists. Share advice, tips for making gas masks or other items, gear to bring to a protest when shit gets real, etc.

Remember: this is DEFENSIVE, not offensive. Don't post incriminating shit like how to make a weapon. We are talking about ways to save your ass from being hurt, not ways to hurt others.

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The Grand Leftwing Communist Conspiracy

Why are right wingers under the constant impression that leftism is promoted by the state and/or the government. It flies in the face of history and reality. Not to mention left wing violence gave us the weekend and the 8 hour workday.

Reactionaries either think that leftists are weak soyboys or violent masked revolutionaries; completely contradictory. It's like their worldview is based on pure emotion. Not to mention they shove the cultural Marxism as a justification to blame da joos. Any arguments against stuff like pic related? I was on 4/k/ and people believe this shit hook, line and sinker.

inb4 >going to 4chan

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Why do nerds call Ghost in the Shell leftist again?

Maybe I'm missing something but after watching the movies and the anime it feels filled with cop-loving and pro-status quo wankery, with anyone resembling a leftist being either a criminal or insane (or both).

I swear it must be idiots cropping a single quote from the manga or anime and going all "omg gits is so woke!!", ignoring everything else.

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do you support the Communist Party of India, the Communist Party of India (Marxist), or Communist Party of India (Maoist)?

or do you support another party like perhaps:

>Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) Liberation led by Dipankar Bhattacharya

>Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) Class Struggle led by Kanu Sanyal

>Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) Red Flag led by P.C. Unnichekkan

>Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) Red Star led by K.N. Ramchandran

>Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) New Democracy led by Yatendra Kumar

>Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) Praja Pantha

>Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) Somnath led by Somnath Chatterjee Ukhra and Pradip Banerjee

>Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) Shantipal

>Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) Jan Samvad

>Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) Nai Pahal

>Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) New Proletarian

>Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) Maharashtra

>and easily 100 others


why do Indian commies split so much?

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best images to shippost with

I want to see the most embarrassing pictures you have of the right in the united states.

this one is from a time when turning point usa wore diapers to "own the libs" although I'm sure this was actually some kind of sexual fetish

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Hey guys. I need some help/advice.

Last year I started going into politics more open minded than ever before and finally actually read up on socialism and communism instead of just "" "debunking""" them with strawmen and memes like all my friends do.

Eventually I grew tired of the disgusting neoliberal policies that are being pushed in my country currently. I started reading Marxist theory and books by native Socialists and felt like what they meant to implement would have changed society fundamentally for the better and could have prevented many wars my country lost and lost with many senseless casualties…

But I am conflicted. Originally I used to be rather Christian-social and sorta conservative.

Especially on immigration policy and integration I just can't agree with what my country's far left proposes. It's not that I have anything against foreigners but we just can't offer a future for all of those refugees. Also letting them through without checking enough opens the door for Islamic fundamentalists and radical religious terror.

The far left in my country also started shilling liberal stuff very hard and support women quotas which are totally against the principles of equality as I understand it since they don't select the most qualified people but discriminate women and men with talent just because they need to match certain numbers… Just to name one example.

Sooo… to conclude it… what do /leftypol/? Am I just too spooked to go full leftie or are my country's left wing parties a joke for most part?

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The American Constitution

Why are so many Americans obsessed with their Constitution? I can't think of any other country where people rely so much of the emotional appeal of historical-legal minutia. You'd imagine people would be critical of a document written by 18th-century landowners…

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So with the Turks completely fucking over the Kurds and taking Afrin… are we finally going to admit that the strength of the over a dozen US military bases in Syria was really just the US and that gains on ISIS were easy because the over a dozen US military bases in Syria/YPJ and ISIS were really just subsidiaries of the same international interests working in concert with each other?

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Sartre: Elections: A Trap for Fools

Universal suffrage is an institution, and therefore a collective which atomizes or serializes individual men. It addresses the abstract entities within them — the citizens, who are defined by a set of political rights and duties, or in other words by their relation to the state and its institutions. The state makes citizens out of them by giving them, for example, the right to vote once every four years, on condition that they meet certain very general requirements — to be French, to be over twenty-one — which do not really characterize any of them.

[…] Now, these citizens, identical as they are and fabricated by the law, disarmed and separated by mistrust of one another, deceived but aware of their impotence, can never, as long as they remain serialized, form that sovereign group from which, we are told, all power emanates — the People. As we have seen, they have been granted universal suffrage for the purpose of atomizing them and keeping them from forming groups.

[…] When I vote, I abdicate my power — that is, the possibility everyone has of joining others to form a sovereign group, which would have no need of representatives. By voting I confirm the fact that we, the voters, are always other than ourselves and that none of us can ever desert the seriality in favor of the group, except through intermediaries. For the serialized citizen, to vote is undoubtedly to give his support to a party. But it is even more to vote for voting, as Kravetz says; that is, to vote for the political institution that keeps us in a state of powerless serialization.

[…] The voter must remain lying down, steeped in his own powerlessness. He will thus choose parties so that they can exert their authority and not his. Each man, locked in his right to vote just as the landowner is locked inside his land, will choose his masters for the next four years without seeing that this so-called right to vote is simply the refusal to allow him to unite with others in resolving the true problems by praxis.

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get a job

stop being jealous of rich people and functioning adults just make something of your life instead of want a revolution of workers I bet none of you have a job

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Political Ideology Catgirls

Does anyone have a better quality version of this image of this spectrum? Also, political catgirl thread in general I suppose

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Questions that don't deserve their own thread:

I have to read Freakonomics for an econ 101 class and I have basically zero prior understanding of modern economics excluding some basic on LTV and entry level Marxism. What's your opinion on the book. I usually hear some liberals shilling this book so is it any good or just liberal bs.

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Lázaro Cárdenas

>nationalised oil and railways

>estabilshed communaly owned farmlands

>supported Spanish republicans and granted them refuge after the war

>ran a 6 year plan

>told the catholic chruch to fuck off

>was hated by mexican porkies

was he, dare I say /ourguy/?

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Doesn't it bother anyone else that the reason we haven't made contact with intelligent life forms. Is because we're still living in a capitalist slave state instead of living in harmony and equality.

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Are protesters the bourgeoisie?

All they do is yell at people and tell people what to do, which is sort of the defining trait of bourgy.

If they were part of the proletariat most of them wouldn't be able to take the time off from their jobs or couldn't afford to.

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Anti-Capitalist Alliance

Are NutSacs at all welcome here? Left-wing ideologies are the adversary of capitalism and I hate capitalism probably more than any of you.

It is self-evident that where this democracy rules, the people as such are not taken into consideration at all. The only thing that matters is the existence of a few hundred gigantic capitalists who own all the factories and their stock and, through them, control the people. The masses of the people do not interest them in the least. - Adolf Hitler

It is ironic that the right wing is often regarded as nationalist when they are capitalist (globalist). This is an oxymoron.

This caste has spun its web over the entire earth; capitalism recognizes no national boundaries…Capitalism has learned nothing from recent events and wants to learn nothing, because it places its own interests ahead of those of the other millions. - Joseph Goebbels

BTW I consider the USSR (post-Stalin) far superior to the Western 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧American🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 fun. These countries were collectivist, nationalist and somewhat traditionalist (at-least compared to the West).

Obviously I am against 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧international Bolshevism🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 but since the right (capitalists) are incapable of being true nationalists and are I was hoping the left had something to offer. The disgusting mess Europe has become is completely due to hyper-individualism, another aspect of "the right".

Mussolini was a Marxist writer if you didn't realize before he used elements of that ideology to create his own.

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Class awareness and how is the current situation backed by so many leftists?

I'm a right winger who's switching sides reluctantly. Maybe /leftypol/ can help me with this. You guys need to help me make some sense of all of this. Trump is the most jewish president ever. Jews everywhere. Constantly being bashed by a jew media. Do you guys side with jews? I mean, WTF really? They're all rich! I thought we was for the workers. It seems like the left are currently taking their orders from multi-billion dollar global corps. Why would we (as workers) disarm ourselves for a fash Trump gov? Let's be honest, Trump is what the 2A was made for. And yet, we have people begging to be disarmed by the fash for 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧media🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 and 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧big corps🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 to the tune of some illuminati monarch's song and dance. WTF is really going on? Are you guys really serious about a worker's revolution? It's all been one big D&C shit show so far and the workers are reaching a breaking point. What's the end game? Is anything going to happen?

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Ok guys Im ready, how do I make full communism? My money are running out, so its sorta urgent. Thanks in advance

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Daily News Thread 3/19

Trump Prohibits U.S. Purchases of Venezuelan Cryptocurrency

President Donald Trump banned U.S. purchases of a cryptocurrency the Venezuelan government is rolling out, as part of a campaign to pressure the government of President Nicolas Maduro.


Explosion injures 2 in Austin, Texas, where a serial bomber is still at large

Two men have been taken to the hospital after a blast rocked a neighborhood in Austin, Texas. The police have warned residents to stay away from the area.


The UK and EU agree terms for Brexit transition period

The UK and EU have agreed on a "large part" of the agreement that will lead to the "orderly withdrawal" of the UK.


Cuba to Send 100 Doctors to Kenya

Kenya has announced that they will bring 100 Cuban medical specialists to assist county hospitals after Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta ended a short visit to the Caribbean island.


Facebook Post Pushes Norway Government to Brink of Collapse

Norway’s minority government faces a potential collapse as the opposition seeks the ouster of the polarizing, anti-immigration Justice Minister Sylvi Listhaug.


Putin Calls For Unity, Cooperation after Russia Election Win

Vladimir Putin won a 4th term in office, keeping him as Russia’s president for six more years.


Support for Japan’s Abe Plummets to Record Low in Two Polls

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe saw his support tumble in weekend opinion polls as anger continues to rise over a cronyism scandal.


US will pander to Saudi ambitions during crown prince’s grand tour

From the moment he touches down in Washington on Monday, and for the next three weeks, the doors of the most powerful people in America will open before Mohammed bin Salman, the 32-year-old crown prince and de facto ruler of Saudi Arabia.


Trump Calls for Death Penalty for Drug Traffickers to Combat Opioids

President Donald Trump called for drug dealers to receive the death penalty in some cases as part of his administration’s effort to address the opioid crisis.


The Ex-Con Coal Baron Running for Senate in West Virginia

Don Blankenship was jailed for contributing to the worst coal mine disaster in a generation. Now he’s after his nemesis Joe Manchin’s job.


Pressure mounts on Zuckerberg to face data breach concerns

Facebook founder and chief executive Mark Zuckerberg is facing intensified calls to appear in person at investigations into the social network's conduct.


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Just Curious...

Newbie here. I’m curious about that is there any women or LGBTQ+people here in /leftypol/?If the answer is yes,what do you guys feel about /leftypol/?

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Well guys, it looks like Cockshott has been BTFO:


EE, proving the the LTV requires more assumptions than the subjective theory of value

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Friendly neighbourhood liberal here, just dropping in to let you know that everything's okay!


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why did /leftypol/ split?

I just enjoy board drama tbh. /leftypol/ seems to be hardcore Marxist in the old style of economic determinism. Apparently you are not? They're saying you are pic-related.

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Need help on writing an article about Colombia

So, the general election in Colombia has just been contested and it's safe to say FARC got fucked in the ass. Some insight from colombian anons or just someone who follows the situation with interest? Gonna need some sources alternative to the usual mainstream media circlejerk, if possible.

pic (mostly) unrelated

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Leftist pepe

Any ideas of how to coopt pepe/kek

Or how we could turn something like Aggretsuko or maybe a real persons facial expressions to a similar effect??

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There are hundreds of "innovative" products getting funded on crowdfunding sites every day, but it seems a great many of them fail terribly. There are entire youtube channels dedicated to showing off awful and failed crowdfunding projects. The opinion of many seems to be that most of them make impossible claims, are greedy or inefficient with donated funds, or deliver mediocre products that are not at all like advertised.

So I ask you, does that Internets hate of crowdfunding projects disprove "start your own business" mentality, and even the free market as a whole?

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I just finished "Hypernormalisation". What a trip. I haven't felt this shaken up since I saw collapse back when it came out. How many of you fuckers have seen it or what are your opinions on it?

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Someone give me the rundown on Mengistu Hailemariam.

I heard a lot of things about a Red Terror but it's impossible to tell if it was overkill or not.

Was he a well-meaning revolutionary dealt a bad hand or a Pol Pot level opportunist?

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Cynthia Nixon Announces Bid to Run for New York Governor

>Nixon, known for her role on HBO’s “Sex and the City,” will be running as a Democrat against incumbent Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) in the state’s primary election, set for September. The actress is a newcomer to campaigning, but has been involved in politics, especially education policy, for years.

>“We want our government to work again, on healthcare, ending mass incarceration, fixing our broken subway. We are sick of politicians who care more about headlines and power than they do about us,” Nixon said in her announcement.



Key points:

• No indication of supporting single-payer health care (ex. medicare for all)

• No indication of supporting forgiving student loan debt

• No indication of supporting unions and co-ops

Politically she's at least slightly to the left of Andrew Cuomo, but with this little information on policy positions, she could be to the right of Elizabeth Warren.

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My anti-zionist actually reactionary & nationalist Middle Eastern retiree-age dad is sending me Jason Unruhe videos and I'm confused as hell as to how he found these videos and what he thinks about the hammer & sickle plastered all over it. His economic views might be center-left now that I think about it.

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Alright comrades, I made a piece of agitprop. I've read a lot about the DPRK and I tried to boil down all of the sources to their most important piece, and tried to make a video that would hold people's attention just long enough to at least put a little doubt in their minds about North Korea. I could have written a ten page article, but Americans don't read anything. I figured this would be a mildly effective way to get the message out. Here it is.


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Alright… let's… just think about this for a second before we anchor this thread.

Is it technically possible to be a Socialist or even a Communist without ever having read Marx or Engels? What if your views just naturally develop into a class conscious way and you realize the essential things Marx preached in his works yourself… Aren't you a Socialist nonetheless then?

And what if you read works of Luxemburg, Trotsky or some local lesser famous Socialists but never really go into the first thinkers works? Maybe… is there a chance that all ideologies advance and get more refined with time so reading the last available results is generally better than reading the blueprints? What do you think?

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Would Edward Snowden and Julian Assange be spared during a violent communist overthrow?

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/pol/ = #rekt


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Preventing tax evasion, brain drain, etc.

When implementing socialism, what must be done to prevent all the bourgeoisie/skilled laborers from moving out/keeping their money in Swiss bank accounts? One of the main faults of the DDR was in so many of its people moving for nations they found favorable towards themselves, resulting in a considerable loss for the development of the DDR. So then, what is to be done in response to this?

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RIP Stephen Hawking

Good night, sweet prince and flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.

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How can we force the bourgeoisie to develop the production forces with more haste? '

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Bread Lines

Let's discuss it seriously for a moment, why were there bread lines and how did it become so bad during the 80s? I mean seriously, how do you fuck up so badly that you don't have enough of the basic products at department stores?

This by the way wasn't a new phenomenon to the 80s, it was during the 60s and 70s as well but to a lesser extent, and it was most felt especially in the less central areas. Don't know about the 50s.

Who/what is to blame? Revisionists? Calculation? Disaster and as a result a timely allocation of resources? Nefarious 5th column?

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sexual equality: life outcomes vs genetics & luck

Could there be a program to redistribute people's social efforts towards those in need? Since it is impossible to lead a decent life without a minimum of social,romantic, and sexual interaction, and that such things are mostly outside ones control due to genetics and not having real agency below the age of 18 or so, would there be a moral AND practical reason for some form of sexual or social welfare?

For example, reward people with taxpayer money if they meet up with a lonely person, who after it rates the meetup positively? A sort of "uber" app thing or whatever, in that category

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Trans people can't rape because rape connotes power. Trans peoples are in the minority and therefore don't have power. So they can't possibly rape anyone.

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If the age at which a woman body becomes fertile is 13yrs old. Logically speaking isn't that the age nature has chosen for them to be sexually active?

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/leftypol/ will defend Jeremy Corbyn


Just reminding you that Jeremy Corbyn praised Venezuela

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President Donald Trump issued an executive order banning any transactions within the United States involving "any digital currency, digital coin, or digital token, that was issued by, for, or on behalf of the Government of Venezuela on or after January 9, 2018."

>The order applies to U.S. citizens as well as any person within the United States.

>Venezuela launched the oil-backed cryptocurrency in February in a move to help pull the country out of a continuing economic crisis. Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro said each petro token will be backed by one barrel of the state's national petroleum. Maduro also said roughly 100 million petro tokens would be issued — estimated to be worth around $6 billion.==

>I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, in order to take additional steps with respect to the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13692 of March 8, 2015, and relied upon for additional steps taken in Executive Order 13808 of August 24, 2017, and in light of recent actions taken by the Maduro regime to attempt to circumvent U.S. sanctions by issuing a digital currency in a process that Venezuela's democratically elected National Assembly has denounced as unlawful


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Was Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy anti imperialist because they fought USA and UK? And Soviet Union a tool for the imperialist because they got military supplies from USA?

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So, why do Communists think equality means more happiness, freedom, wealth, etc?

I'm not being rhetorical here, maybe it's somewhat obvious but I at least want to know the logic it's derived from, it itself is not good enough for me.

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Richard Spencer gives up touring college campuses due to ANTIFA punching his face and disrupting his rallies.

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Will the people of America ever become class conscious, or is this all a useless endeavor? left liberals are so in line with the establishment they're never coming to our side and working class people have fallen for the reactionary "muh race" meme. Is there any hope whatsoever?

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So I debated some people from /pol/ yesterday


Apparently, according to the 4chan discussion thread, I managed to convert at least one person from Nazism to Marxism-Leninism. Source:


Why don't we do this more often?

From my experience in the debate, these people are hardly irredeemable. Most are alienated, sexually frustrated young men who are only attracted to right-wing ideology because of how repelling neoliberalism is. With the right approach and arguments, it's actually incredibly easy to show to them that Marxism-Leninism alone offers solutions to their problems.

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Socialism and Communism

What are the key differences between socialism and communism as historical stages, if any? In what way is a socialist society different from a communist society? Is socialism a "transition" from capitalism to communism or a "lower stage" of communism? Did Marx ever make a difference between socialism and communism?

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Serious question.

Lets say these miscarriages are the failed attempts at true communism. What makes you think the next one isn't going to miscarriage or be aborted? I mean history repeat it's self. Is that what you want to be? abortions?

You have a better chance of moving to Africa and conforming them to an proven failure of an 200 yr old system of government created by a guy that by today standards wouldn't be qualified to teach at any reputable highschool.

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General discussion about arms.

Few questions.

>What are some good guns for a new comer ?

>Cheap armor and helmet.

>Books or PDFs on group tactics and other related things.

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So the rich are literally paying to kill themselves.

What could go wrong?

OP must be at least 100 chars on this board.

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Lal salam comreds!

This thread is dedicated to the heroic Indian Revolution, which in 2017 entered its 50th year.

Despite vicious attacks by the Indian comprador regime (backed by the imperialists), the Naxalite movement remains undefeated in the face of overwhelming technological and numerical superiority.

Although the area they control has shrunk since the early 2000s, popular support for the Naxals in urban regions like Hyderabad, Kerala, and elsewhere have massively increased, especially amongst youth, thanks to the neoliberal policies of the Modi regime. Second pic is a pro-Naxalite poster at Delhi State University.

The deteriorating socio-economic situation in the country is proven by the frequent strikes, marches, and demonstrations. Third pic is from today's militant farmer rally in Maharashtra.

Other pictures are taken from this article:


"India's Red Tide" - great documentary about the Naxals, including interviews in their jungle hideouts


This one is even better, "Red Ant Dream" was the brainchild of a Marxist filmmaker:


Excellent article by Arundhati Roy detailing her meeting with Naxalites in Dantewada:


Very recently, just in the past year or so, the Naxals have been uploading videos of their demonstrations and songs on YouTube.

Massive 50-year anniversary celebration of the Naxalbari rebellion. These tribals form the core Naxal support base.


Beautiful revolutionary song, sung by young Naxalite girl:


Very sad song about the heroic Martys of the Indian Revolution:


Another revolutionary song:


Naxalite children sing about protecting the forest from the plunderers and their agents:


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I liked his white cover book on history, and I am reading his black cover book on the future.

For a jewish gay liberal, the guy is pretty legit.

Anyone else read them?

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How can historical materialism be rescued from the accusation of teleology?

How can it be that the bourgeois were always going to overthrow the feudal nobles, couldn't there have been another possible history where this didn't happen?

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Correct view on the PKK?

I'm a brainlet so I need someone more intelligent to tell me what to think.

Some Turkish leftists oppose the PKK, claiming it's a tool of Western imperialism. Other Turkish leftists fight with the PKK, claiming it's a progressive national-liberation force against reaction. There are even some groups who defend Erdogan's Afrin operation on the basis of "anti-imperialism" (since the US supports the over a dozen US military bases in Syria).

I don't know nearly enough about Turkey or the Kurdish-Turkish history to even have an idea of what to think about this.

Is it true Ocalan abandoned Marxism? Regardless, actions are more important than words. Has there been any transformation at all of property relations in Northern Syria held by the Y.P.G? If not, can you even call them leftist at all?

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>Cousins also maintains that it is a myth that land reform can involve the redistribution of state-owned land, as most state land in the rural areas comprises densely settled communal land not available for redistribution.https://www.iol.co.za/sundayindependent/analysis/farm-attacks-social-justice-and-our-food-security-13885868

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Russian Election Aftermath

Looks like Putin won (as expected) but the Russian government has barred the grassroots liberal populist Alexei Navalny from the race.

What will happen now, protests maybe?

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I need propaganda/memes to spread

Subtle > overt

Image > text

Funny > boring

I would appreciate it if you would bump this thread, please.

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>Clay Duke spray painted a red "V" with a circle around it on the wall, brandished a small-caliber handgun and ordered the room cleared at a Panama City schools building.

"Six men stay. Everyone else leave," the burly gunman said.

>at that point, Duke, as seen on the dramatic live internet feed provided by CNN affiliates WJHG and WMBB, began a rambling discourse that included the apparent firing of his wife and sales tax

>Someone was going to die, he said.

>The confrontation ended in the gunman identified as Duke calmly firing at the school officials, being wounded and, according to police, taking his own life.

Press f to pay respect lads

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You need to get rid of faggotry in the left.

The anarchist/communist left in the west (especially the US) is getting more and more fucked. They "fight" for dumb shit like trannies being called the "correct" pronouns instead of things such as workers rights, or that workers are being fucked over, all whilst claiming to be communists/anarchists. It's not even about the worker anymore for those faggots.

I know that /leftypol/ is probably one of the last places for TRUE commies/marxists, you need to step up your game of anti faggotry. Marxist is strongly anti Identity and so you should propagandize that all these stupid "gender identities" and "sexual identities" and all that other perverse crap needs to be cleansed holocaust like in the name of equality.

Maybe organize 4-5 to some anarchist rallies with signs saying "fuck gender identity, fuck faggotry" along with lenin's or mao's faces or something. You need to get rid of these faggots and SJWs from the left if you don't want to have communism/marxism to survive in the US.

Maybe have some propaganda like

>"If you do not workout and self improve you are a lazy capitalist fat swine"

Like /pol/ has

>"If you do not workout and self improve you are a lazy degenerate and deserve fake shower rooms"

Fat shame fatties and whores, get them to self improve. I myself am from /pol/ and the only reason why I became right wing was because it was the only side that was against all this faggotry happening. You need to get good anti fag squads and bring the faggots back to the dirty center where they belong and right minded people will come to you. You'll maybe even some from the far right.

Do you really want (pic related) to be even remotely associated with your movement? if not you need to focus all of your energy in getting those fuckers lynched. No matter how sad it sounds, (pic related) like people are a bigger threat to your movement that all of the right wing combined.

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Feminism is puppeteered by porky!

That’s it I had it.

My fellow proles this ideology called “feminism”

Is taking a toll on our revolution against the bourgeois.

I recommend that we shall subvert it from within and destroy it.

These useful idiots are being used to drive the consumerist shithole that is the west and sabotage our revolution.

My brothers….


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So are the mods just letting rightists spam this page now?

Do your jobs and sage that low lQ rightist shit fam.

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Intersectional-what? Feminism's problem with jargon is that any idiot can pick it up and have a go

> What Clinton’s intersectional hairball does illustrate is the downside of having your activist jargon undergo such extreme semantic dilution: any idiot can pick it up and have a go.

— Eleanor Robertson, journalist

> I'm amazed at how intersectionality gets over- and under-used; sometimes I can’t even recognize it in the literature any more.

— Kiberlé Crenshaw, originator of intersectionality

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/30/intersectional-feminism-jargon

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Why hasn’t this show blown up on /leftypol/ yet?

>set during the Great Depression

>main character is a preacher

>goes around the US preaching liberation theology

>organizes farmers and workers to strike against predatory banks

>urges interracial solidarity between black and white farmers

>kills klansmen and Pinkertons

>bad guys are all either strikebreakers, scabs, porkies, or fascists

>quotes Karl Marx

It’s basically “leftypol writes a Netflix show”. Also /tv/ general, discuss works of leftist cinema.

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>Most overworked and underpaid population in the world

>Holds a damn near monopoly on the most valuable metals and minerals in the world

>Large population and fertile soil to boot

>Most blatant income inequality in the world

Congo Kinshasa is the absolute goldenboy in terms of revolution potential. When do you think it'll happen?

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Holy shit someone actually made an antigermans board on 8ch. Please tell me this is a joke by one of you and not actually serious. Did the antidesutche actually manage to gain a foothold on here? Have we been infiltrated? I thought it was only that one autistic over a dozen US military bases in Syria poster who supported Israel. What is going on here? Who's up for a raid?



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>Happy #StPatricksDay from the #USArmy.

>We appreciate how everyone wears a little green like us today.

The HOG (Hibernian Occupied Government) is just rubbing it in our faces now.


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How could individuals compensate others for non-necessary services in a planned socialist economy? If wished to commission a piece of art, would I have to shell out an exorbitant amount of vouchers to an artist's collective? Or would I be able to look them up individual artists in a directory provided by the Decentralized Planning System?

Furthermore, what about incredibly simple tasks that I'd prefer not to do and couldn't be automated with current technology? Say for example, pulling weeds in the flowerbed after I broke my leg.

In my ideal society, people would be willing to do these things out of the desire to enrich the lives of others and improve the community at large. However, even in a socialist utopia, I doubt most folks would be so altruistic.

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DPRK Mineral Source

I keep finding the same claims in Western sources about trillions in mineral wealth in the DPRK.

>And North Korea's mineral wealth was estimated at $10 trillion (£7.5 trillion) in 2012 by a South Korean research institute.

But none of the sites (Quartz, Independent, etc) actually cite the study, and I can not find it. First of all, how the fuck are journalists this inept? Kids in school have to cite facts in their essays, why do these retards not have to cite THE CORE OF THE ARTICLE? Also, they just trust each other, because they literally give no fucks. But anyway, does anyone have a source for any of these "studies" mentioned?


(To be clear, I'm not doubting that the DPRK has mineral wealth, I just want these goddamn "sources")

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How many word filters are there?

Just how many exist? Like, of the ones I know of the top of my head, I know:




race war

national socialist

turd positionist


Pretty sure there's more I've missed

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Leftypol Stickers

What about making /leftypol/ stickers? The alt-right has it's own sticker, why shouldn't we spread our message on the streets. Post tips on how to securely buy stickers (with your own design) and designs.

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The Cleanest Race


What do ☭TANKIE☭s have to say about this book?

I'll just go ahead and get the obvious out of the way

>He's calling the DPRK Nazi!

No, the central claim of his book is that North Korean internal politics is based largely on a form of nationalism derived from Showa Imperialism from their time as a Japanese colony with a thin coat of faux M-L paint.

>It's imperialist!

Though the author is a typical liberal, he's specifically against the aggressive policies of the US against the DPRK, and explicitly admits the atrocities committed against them by the United States during the Korean War.

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So, the reason most liberals don't want communism is because they see it as an idealistic fantasy that inevitably devolves into a totalitarian dictatorship.

So what if we R E B R A N D E D as "Democratic Communism"? Do you think this would get more people to listen to us? Do you think it would get more respect than just communism?

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>The Government on Mars will be a direct democracy

>You vote directly on issues

>Not through representatives

Mfw Elon Musk is the richest comrade we have

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im not here for the politics part it just gets me fucking mad that these rich college white kids have the balls the play class war when a white person like my self grow up poor i had to have thanksgiving at homeless shelters when i was young and no matter how much these college kids larp class war nothing will them from going to the gulag with their rich family that raised them.

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Combatting reactionaries and imperialism

I've recently been doing some reading on both Marxist and Anarchist revolutions and their history of combatting imperialism and reactionary ideology, both of which had their initial successes and faults.

I'd be of the belief while that a state (from an ML sense) can combat reactionary tendencies (Sankara, Tito) and Imperialism (Castro, Mao), I've seen Anarchists being able to achieve anti-imperialist struggle (Makhno and Kim Chwa Chin respectively, prior to betrayal or assassination) and reactionary tendencies (Black army killing off anti-semites Anarchists in spain going after fascists and franco supporters on the homefront) without the use of one.

However, I've noticed that these models aren't inherently immune to defeat (Sankara being caught off guard with a coup, Shin Min and Free territory could hardly operate due to lack of advice from experienced tacticians after betrayal and assassination), or reactionary tendencies (Mao's cabinet being filled with nationalists and revisionists in his later years, Tito following suit, and the USSR releasing incredibly actually reactionary policies, given hindsight)

Given hindsight, is the key to a victory over reactionary policies and imperialism less state power, the lack of a state, More state power, or the people who are in charge?

Given your material surroundings, how do you theorise a revolution may occur or look like in your respected countries?

pic somewhat unrelated

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Would you say that "post scarcity" is absolute or relative?

Certainly if we ask a person a century ago to define what a man must have to be in a state of post scarcity, he wouldn't include electricity.

If we ask a person even 30 years ago, they wouldn't include internet access.

Seems like the idea of a post scarcity society is very relative, and as all of us gain access to a perceived necessity, we just think of a new good or service to perceive as necessary, and to crave. continuing the cycle.

In very minimal terms, you are in a state of post scarcity if your biological well being is secure - you have protection from the elements, have adequate calories and nutrients, have the conditions to practice hygiene and be healthy, have warmth and a bed, have psychological calm and can exercise your reproductive function. Is electricity and the internet required? Is chocolate and coffee? Is music and books?

Lets define this "post scarcity" properly, since its a commonly used term, yet very confusing and wide ranging without context.

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Alright, this is going to be more intense than Sargon vs. Jason. Muke and Jason disagree on so many things, on praxis, on IdPol, on the USSR. This is just going to end up embarrassing for both sides. Muke will just spit out his catchphrase about commodity production and quoting the CotGP, and then Jason will try to retort, Muke will respond to that by just repeating himself, etc.

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Michigan Senate candidate is arming the homeless

Michigan Senate candidate launches campaign to arm homeless people with shotguns



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How many crypto socialists are currently in the United States House of Representatives and Senate? There's gotta at least be a few more than Bernie

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Vladimir Lenin (1978 - 1994)

>Vladimir Lenin joined his half-siblings in Canada, but was stabbed to death in a Toronto nightclub at the age of 16.

RIP in power comrade. Why do the best of us leave us so soon?


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>tfw there have been two nihilist revolutions and nobody gives a damn

>tfw people think nihilist anarchism and nihilist socialism are just memes

>tfw I ain't mad because all of this capitalist world is senseless and ought to be destroyed

Y'all need to read Catechism of a Revolutionary tbh


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Lauren Southern is suing the U.K.

Apparently the U.K. decided they needed to protect their borders from Lauren, and now she's throwing a fit about it.


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Food for thought:


>But you never find in the Meditations a single line that lets you suspect that the Emperor thought that there was something to be done other than simply fighting to keep the barbarians out. You never read that the Emperor was considering, say, things like social reform, or maybe something to redress the disastrous situation of the economy. He had no concern, apparently, that the Empire could actually fall one day or another.

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Wednesday: Mathew Heimbach Destroys TWP, Thursday: Alt Right Youtuber Lures Teen, Now Bomb Threat

Things aren't going so well for the salt right the past three days. It seems they're actually a bunch of terrible horny degenerates? This is huge if it turns out to be true


>Nazi group implodes over Love Triangle Trailer Brawl

>Mathew Heimbach came to blows with the group's spokesperson after he was caught by his entire family having an affair with his wife, which resulted in him chomping out and going to jail, and the collapse of the Traditionalist Worker's Party in toto. Worse they are all related practically just not by blood.

Yeah we all knew about that, but what about the past two days


>Alt Right Youtuber accused of luring autistic underage teen

A Canadian immigrant who made white supremacist videos with Richard Spencer regularly, is accused of trying to "lure and imregnate" a Hispanic autistic teenager in high school, while he was married to another woman. He's since closed all social media accounts related to him


Three men who stand accused of bombing a mosque in Minneapolis, and subsequently an Illinois abortion clinic, accidentally revealed themselves when they tried to frame a rival who was having sex with one of their ex's.

I thought nazis hated this fun shit, what gives? They all seem like terrible broken people who can't live life correctly. I wonder if there's projection going on there.

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Here's the deepest most secret redpill I've ever discovered in my jouney.

Everything pol complains is fucking related to a single topic.

Everything, from africa being a shithole with poverty and war, to japan having no babies, to white semen dropping in quality, to chemtrails, to fluoride in the water, to vacines that causes autism, to feminism, to porn, to drugs, to AIDS, to niggers, to alcohol in russia.

Everything is related.

Is the same shit.


They already started in 1950, and in the last few years they just started the stage II, which is to peak humans but keep the death mortality higher than the birth rate.

They already won.

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What exactly is "Aufhebung"…? From what I understand, it's a philosophical concept related to dialectics Marx picked up from Hegel whose meaning is complex, ambiguous and even seemingly contradictory — it alludes to both elevation and abolition.There is no real English equivalent and it's often translated as "sublation", a fancy word if I ever heard one.

… But that's all I managed to grasp about the whole thing.

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Pan-Slavic nationalism

Why are Slavs so tribal? As an outside observe I really have a hard understanding the rampant nationalism in that part of europe, even knowing so much about the history of the Ottomans, Byzantium and World War 1. I understand that the major empires have often divided the countries up like pie, from the Austrians to the Nazis to the Soviets, yet it really makes no sense to me why the balkans aren't a single country and like one of the most powerful in europe if not in the top 20 on earth. I know next to nothing about why Yugoslavia split up (other than superficial things about Bosnians and Serbs) yet why the fuck is there not a Pan-slavic country that doesn't have to rely on papa Russia to keep it from getting balkanized by the west? T. American who wants to understand, thanks.

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worker songs



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Was he a lumpenprole before the revolution?​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

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Any thoughts on this guy's writing? Currently making my way through Technological Slavery which has his collected works as of 2011 or thereabouts and I find it interesting. I'm not really that big on socialism/communism and just lurk here occasionally, but I see a lot of right leaning-guys make constant references to his description of "leftists", but his description seems to be that of progressive infiltrators, his key warning is that they will co-opt any revolutionary movement and make it about gay rights, racial issues etc. At the same time you could replace "technological society" with "capitalism" throughout most of his tips for revolutionaries and it wouldn't seem out of place.

While people meme about Anprims he doesn't seem to be against all technology so much as technology that requires an all powerful system to produce. Stuff like basic metalworking, building and so forth don't necessarily require a coercive technological system to support them. The picture I got of the future he envisions seems pretty comfy once you get past all of the people dying due to technology being required to support overpopulation.

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Latin American version of Natinal Bolshevism

Does such a thing exist? I know that most Latin Murrican polticians are kinda leftwing nationalists, but you hopefully did understand what I mean.

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Anybody into the commie strangler around these parts? I just started reading pic related, about halfway in and I'm digging it.

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Chomsky 2018

As it turns out Chomsker is someone who

>calls anyone who criticizes him "obscure" and someone who "has no idea what he's talking about"

>takes money from military complex

>spends his life arguing against the military complex while being funded by them

>is being held by leftists as an untouchable God in the USA

>actually has no idea about Marx

>is someone whose life work as a linguist has been totally discredited

>has a ridiculous philosophical POV

>got beaten in every prominent philosophical debate he got into (Foucault, Lacan, Zizek)


Chomsky-fags, explain yourselves!


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Convert a /pol/ lurker

Hello /leftypol/. I have a task for you. Enlighten me on your ideologies. I am open minded. I am a long time /pol/ lurker, and I want to hear what you have to say. Please keep it to posts, quotes, and book summaries. Don't say watch this youtube link, or read The Wealth of Nations. Short and concise, and we can go from there.

Just so you know who you are dealing with, probably libertarian, previous neocon. Believed in boomer republicanism. Trump supporter. Big believer in capitalism. (Not really /pol/ aligned, but whatever.) I'm not here to debate you.

I'll start with a jumping point. To me it seems citizens in capitalist countries prosper more than socialist and communist citizens. I don't believe this is capitalist bias. Quality of life seems better without a managed economy. Where am I wrong? Jump in with other topics too.

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On a more civilized society

They say a picture is worth a million words, I’ll let this picture speak for its self. Do the right thing, and bin your gun, or turn it into your local constabulary. A real leftist doesn’t support an amendment that enables a multi billion dollar industry to sell guns making our communities unsafe. Just do the right thing mate.

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Well /leftypol/? have planned economys been enternally, absolutely, completely and uttery blown the fuck out? Have they?

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Crisis actors

What is the likelyhood any of these people are actually crisis actors?

Have there been any documented cases of this actually happening in the U.S.?

Just curious.

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Why is Ayy Que a "banned word" around here? It is quite literally the strongest, most credible discovery social sciences ever made. The fact that individual people have differing cognition also seems like one of the most obvious thing with the most explanatory power when it comes to any attempts to explain human interactions.

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You LITERALLY cannot prove Margaret Thatcher wrong, she was right about socialism, she was right about the USSR being a failed state, she was right about Labour being fiscally irresponsible dunces who want to destroy the family and bring savages to the UK for their retarded cultural marxist pet project.

/leftypol/ BTFO!!!

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Can't we all agree that race actually means alot in order to run a great country. White people literally created this world and also white people created communism.

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Why does /pol/ think anime is pro traditional value and white, despite turning more men into femboys and trans?

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2smrt4me - Fourth International Posadist (Flying saucers and talking to dolphins)

What the fuck are these guys about?

Do we have any here?

I saw a Posadist flag in that thread so I guess there is at least one.

So er.. what's this all about?

Posadists believed that extra-terrestrials visiting earth in flying saucers must come from a socially and scientifically advanced civilisation to master inter-planetary travel and that the working-class should welcome the alien invaders as their liberators.

…Posadists believe in a New Age doctrine based upon a millenarian belief in UFOs coming from a socialist future or alien socialist planet, and that fringe science experiments involving human–dolphin communication…

Tomorrow, electricity will not be necessary. Everything that exists is energy. The condition of existence of an object is that it has energy. The organisation of the human body, the brain and other organs and senses, is that proper to Earth.

Today, we speak of millions of years. Tomorrow, the measure will not be the same. We will easily find ways of solving all the problems deriving from the notions of land, gravity, and atmospheric pressure.

These beings from other planets come to observe life down here and laugh at humans, we who fight each other over who has the most cannons, cars and wealth. The possession of wealth is a distortion of human feeling by societal organisation: instead, the human sentiment is a fraternal, collective one.



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Stuff you might not know about Allende

So I feel that a lot of people here don't know much about Allende's death and what exactly happened that day and just how much of a badass Allende was. I feel that as a chilean socialist, I must tell you about it:

>September 11, 1973

>Allende is informed that the chilean military have began a coup

>At this point he has been offered multiple times by generals and party members alike a plane for him to escape

>He tells them to go fuck themselves

>A bunch of cities are already on lockdown by the military

>The navy, airforce, and police declare their loyalty to the military

>Allende and the GAP (grupo de amigos personales) or group of personal friends drive to the presidential palace (La Moneda), carrying assaul rifles, SMGs, pistols, and rocket launchers

>They may be reformists but they won't step down by an illegal overthrow

>At around 11:00AM chilean generals order planes to bomb La Moneda

>They strafe it and launch rockets

>Then soldiers and tanks begin their assault

>Allende is carryin an akms gifted to him by Castro

>He and the 80 or so members of the GAP fight off about 3000 soldiers for hours

>At one point Allende even destroys a tank with an RPG

>Finally the soldiers manage to enter La Moneda

>Fighting continues inside

>One of the generals called Javier Palacios gives Allende a final offer to surrender

>He tells him to go fuck himself

>Allende shoots Palacios and hits him in his hand, but doesn't kill him

At this point, this is where there's still some debate about how exactly Allende died, but it was not suicide. The book I got all this info from puts the most likely option as this:

>The group of soldiers with Palacios gun Allende down and he's finished off by a pistol shot by Palacios

>Then they shoot him with his AK under the chin to simulate his suicide

The book btw is called "Allende: I won't surrender". If you speak spanish, or manage to find a translation, I highly recommend it.

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"leftist" : "Hey incels all your needs are met bro, you have oxygen, food and water, stop complaining, you're good!"

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Debates are largely just semantics, largely due to the fact that differing factions naturally selectively use lexicons that suit their agenda. This board has no unity of vocabulary. Hence why most discussions devolve to semantical debates over the "real" definitions of socialism, capitalism, fascism, democracy and other popular terms, almost always held without any reference to the actual etymological history of the words.

There is no left-wing, no communist movement, demonstrated nowhere more obviously than in the absence of a communist terminology. If you want to create the most efficient social movement the world has ever seen, you need to start by creating a system of definitions that are simple, easy to understand, and effective at attacking as broad an audience as possible. Don't alienate people by challenging every single word they've learned, but don't tolerate vague, unclear definitions from them either. Where the line is drawn is up to you guys.

Some suggestions to start. I'd suggest never using the term "mode of production" ever again. Using the original German term "Productionsweise" in English speech is actually preferable to that garbage.

"Anarcho" is also completely absurd. "O" is frequently used at the end of silly words & affectionate nicknames. Using it in a label you use to seriously define yourself sounds slightly stupid. Anarchist-Communist sounds dramatically more intimidating. Why anarchists would want to take the word "anarchist" out of their labels is beyond me.

Calling anything you don't like "fascism" is actually really good, and be sure to spell it in lower-case too. Also ridicule anyone who claims democrats, ancaps, or Trump isn't a fascist. Bourgeois chumps enabled the nazis and they deserve every comparison to them they can get. This isn't any great crime because fascists have never actually succeeded in constructing a coherent definition for their so-called ideology anyway.

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/syndie/ General

Post anything memes, theory, pdfs, OC related to Syndicalism, Deleonism, anarcho-syndicalism etc

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>Why don't you redistribute your own wealth first, you hippie socialist! Don't force us to do something you won't!

How do you respond?

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The Real Movement and Communist Society

How can communism be associated with a certain type of society (which has done away with private property, commodity production, social classes, etc) if it is "not a state of affair to be established" but "the real movement which abolishes the present state of things" as Marx famously claimed in the German Ideology?

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Neolibs/Radical Centrists

Why don't we get rid of these people first instead of wasting time fighting eachother?

I mean we can still gulag/concentration camp eachother when they're gone.

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Nostalgic for the 09 recession

Does anyone else miss the Great Recession? It was one of the most interesting parts of my life. I lost my job and my apartment, and I had to couch surf constantly. But there was this feeling in the air where it was socially acceptable to be a freeloading, unemployed bum. Workers at restaurants and stores look the other way when you stole because they knew the struggle too. And every day was a struggle, it was an adventure, it brought passion and excitement to my life. I wandered around, went to different socialist group meetings, made a bunch of crazy friends. I hitched a ride down to New York and protested on Wall Street, just spent two weeks straight wasted out of my mind on various drugs having sex with random strangers in tents. I miss those times. Does anyone else?

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Is this reactionary?

Burger here. I admit that I'm a bit suspicious of immigrants, but not the typical working class immigrants you see vilified, but the "good" well-to-do college educated immigrants, especially the ones from other wealthy Western countries. I seriously question their motives for coming here, especially the Westerners who hail from objectively better countries. I get the feeling that they must in some way be intrinsically bad people because the only real appeal of this country for people like them is that they'll be allowed to hoard even more of their wealth and they'll get the opportunity to shit on the poor even harder, since we're basically one small step away from essentially having legalized bum fights.

Does this mesh with my otherwise lefty beliefs or is it unjustified xenophobia?

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Early Banking

What's the connection between early banking institutions (the Knights Templar, the Peruzzi dynasty, the Medici dynasty, etc) and the emergence of capitalism? Is there such a thing as a non-capitalist bank?

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Consumerism is a low-hanging fruit: At the exception maybe of some obnoxious libertarians, not many politically-minded people openly laud the consumerist culture prevalent in the globalized world of late capitalism — think of the lousy Banksy graffiti massively shared over social networks by people who assume this act to be the pinnacle of subversion. Even Fascists occasionally engage in anti-consumerist rhetoric, arguing that it is part of a globalist plot undermining national identities and traditional values.

And that's precisely the problem with most criticisms of consumerism: It does away with the economic, social and political foundation of that phenomenon and usually stick to purely moralistic judgements i.e. consumerism is shallow, unhealthy, wasteful, etc — some of which are hypocritical or even contain a hint of class contempt. The typical anti-consumerist is the well-off liberal teen shopping at Whole Foods sneering at people guilty of eating at McDonald's.

I'd be more interested in an actual analysis of consumerism. For example: Why does it exist in the first place? Why did it emerge in that particular time and place? How is it related to capitalism's need to constantly expand its markets? How much does it contribute to needlessly long working days? And so on, and so on.