NEW Alunya/Stirner/Anime OC Thread
New thread for /leftypol/ mascot drawings and OC.
Reposting all of the OC from the last thread. Can someone who was active in that thread please salvage written content from that thread? I'm going to un-sticky it in a day or two.
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FAQ (READ THIS if you're from /pol/ or reddit)
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FAQ:
>How can you call yourselves leftist politically incorrect?
According to Wikipedia's citation of someone named Herbert Kohl,
"The term “politically correct” was used disparagingly, to refer to someone whose loyalty to the Communist Party line overrode compassion, and led to bad politics. It was used by Socialists against Communists, and was meant to separate out Socialists who believed in egalitarian moral ideas from dogmatic Communists who would advocate and defend party positions regardless of their moral substance."
From this alone, it should be clear how leftists could consider themselves politically incorrect. But in the context of this board, we find other examples. For instance, /leftypol/'s general stance on the social justice movement essentially makes it a pariah to much of the leftist elite.
However, this was only a minor consideration in the creation of /leftypol/. Since the concept is simply a leftist version of /pol/, the entire name of /pol/ was retained.
>I'm not a leftist can I post here?
/leftypol/ welcomes debate from non-leftists. Non-leftists frequently come here to ask questions and raise topics for debate. Board moderation here is more focused on maintaining a good board index, so non-leftists have to be on better behavior as OP than they do as participants in someone else's thread. If you aren't b8ing or shitposting, your thread is likely to stay up.
>Are you liberals? Are you SJWs? Do you like Obama? Are you all Zionists???
While there are a few liberals here, the majority of posters on /leftypol/ are radical left. They may still be socially liberal, but their economic stances are decidedly not liberal, and likely heavily opposed to the liberal order. As an extension of this, posters here are opposed to "SJWs," because they see them as economically liberal, and socially oppressive. Stances on Obama here range from indifferent, to angry– and the only poster here who shills for Democrats still does so under the premise that they're a lesser evil.
As for Israel, leftism is anti-Zionist. It is not anti-Jew. Unlike /pol/, /leftypol/ fully supports Palestinians, and doesn't think they're "mudslimes."
Pretending to be an SJW or Zionist will very likely get you banned.
>Why did you leave /pol/ and why does this board exist?
We may have "left /pol/," but /pol/ never left us. Since /leftypol/ is so prominent on such a /pol/-dominated website, a lot of debate here comes from /pol/ visitors who are interested in learning about leftism. You are more much more likely to find right wing posters on /leftypol/ than you are to find left wing posters on /pol/. /leftypol/ exists to help the 8chan community focus on leftist topics without being slid or flooded to death.
>Do you support gun control?
While posters on /leftypol/ have varying stances on gun control (training requirements, mental health checks, etc.), they are overwhelmingly in favor of arming the proletariat, and are against banning guns. Famous leftist heroes such as Marx, Orwell, and Huey P. Newton were all pro-gun.
>Do you support "national" socialism?
There are a few posters here who believe that "national" socialism is or can be a leftist stance, but Strasserism and NatSoc are generally regarded as a joke here. You're better off being honest that Nazism is right-wing. Attempting to cloak your hatred for foreigners and other races in pro-worker rhetoric, or similar ploys, might get you banned.
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Phone Bank 4 Bernie
from the comfort of your home, because you're a lazy NEET with nothing better to do.
CASUAL REMINDER THAT USING THIS SYSTEM FOR ANYTHING BUT PHONEBANKING IS FELONY WIRE FRAUD
What you need:
-Desktop/laptop/tablet with charger.
-Mobile phone, with charger, or Google Voice to call for free (land lines only I believe).
-An Internet connection.
1. Go to http://berniesanders.com/phonebank
If you want to look at any of the instructions there feel free. If you're not with a group it can be helpful.
2. Select a state to call into and get your login credentials. They're randomly generated every day.
3. If you want, you can also sign up at http://berniepb.com/ to track your stats.
4. Open up the calling script for that state available above the link to get your credentials.
5. Go to https://vote.berniesanders.com/ and find the state there, figure out whether it's caucus or primary, and what hours the voter needs to get to the poll. Also important whether they can register same-day or not, and whether they need to be a registered Democrat. There's lots of information they might need on that page.
6. Log in to the phone system. You will get a phone number and a PIN. Call the number and enter the PIN.
7. Set yourself to 'Ready' and wait for a call.
8. Follow the script!
Tips:
-Don't try to bond with the other person unless they open up, you are not a human to most people you're calling. Stick to the script.
-Hide your power level, don't talk about socialism. This is just about getting people to vote/caucus, not demagoguery. When Sanders wins, then you can preach.
-If you speak a foreign language (especially Spanish), voters who speak that language are much more likely to listen to you than English-speaking voters.
-Like the script says, focus on the undecideds/Bernie supporters. Don't argue with anyone. Waste of time. Feel free to educate if they're curious.
-'Strong Bernie/Vol Yes' means they agreed to volunteer for bernie.
-Find events by Bernie supporters in your area at http://map.berniesanders.com/
-DO NOT LEAVE MESSAGES ON ANSWERING MACHINES. Just put 'Not Home.'
-International comrades can phone bank too!
My local volunteer group holds phone banking events from 2-5 PDT. One anon suggests these times:
- EST: 7 pm - 10 pm
- CST: 6 pm - 9 pm
- MT: 5 pm - 8 pm
- PST: 4 pm - 7 pm
Bear in mind that people may be working, making dinner, or going to sleep, so the times you can call are somewhat limited, even though the system may be open.
Brussels goes boom
Just in case you haven't heard. Stay tuned! More "law and order" bullshit, porky propaganda about immigrants, and general misery across Europe to come.
Sanders campaign being sabotaged by Clinton supporters
http://www.whig.com/article/20160317/ARTICLE/303179787#
>An Adams County judge has ruled voters who showed up to polling places Tuesday but were turned away because ballots were unavailable should have the right to cast a late ballot starting Monday.
This is a result of a democracy being destroyed in a number of ways by Clinton.
>For those of you who do not know to what my title refers, please check out this short essay by fentress. It's not completely accurate on the specifics, but the gist is this: Niko House, President of the Carolina Students for Bernie Sanders, has alleged in a series of three YouTube videos, in which he accused Aisha Dew, a paid Sanders' campaign staffer and the North Carolina State Director at Bernie Sanders for President of being a DNC or HRC mole, who deliberately sabotaged the efforts of Bernie's North Carolina campaign, by cancelling events, creating a rift between the Sanders' campaign and Rev. Barber, President of the North Carolina NAACP and the leader of the Moral Mondays movement, refusing to meet with local politicians who wished to endorse Bernie, and generally making it more difficult for volunteers to get Sanders' message out.
The videos are up so try to archive everything you can:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AghiFAuHMJI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbR2INJtkfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeD-ODrfKqU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQTpNpn2cDo - Photos of Aisha Dew with Debbie Wasserman Schultz in November of last year before going to the Bernie side
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4qH7SQKQTQ - Suggestions to not support the official campaign until the saboteurs are found
To summarize, in North Carolina, Bernie should have won and a LOT of people were turned away while organizers were fired or ousted for trying to organize the vote.
Clinton seems to be desperate and everything is coming together that the campaign is undermined.
This leads us to the dirty tricks of Nixon as well as Clinton being linked to him through Kissinger. It looks like the democracy is being undermined.
If you have time, I'd recommend looking at the talk shows such as Tim Black who has had Niko on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl-mHhH4qS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzLpMSETZ9U
I think this is more important than as part of the inside of one thread, but that's up to you all to decide. What do you think, leftypol?
Leftypol meetups
Ever feel the need to to have a beer with a fellow leftypoler? This is the thread! meetup with a fellow and discuss politics over a beer or whatever.
If there is anyone here in Stockholm, hit me up.
Bullshit theory on MUH board REEEEEE!
https://archive.is/S6D5o#selection-3823.0-3823.170
>they are not a real class, using this term Marx described the lowest layers of the proletariat who were most prone to petty bourg ideology due to their lack of education.
WRONG! TOTALLY UTTERLY WRONG
It was Fanon who claimed this
For Marx's conception of the lumpen proletariat one may refer to the 18th Brumaire
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1852/18th-brumaire/ch05.htm
>This society dates from the year 1849. On the pretext of founding a benevolent society, the lumpen proletariat of Paris had been organized into secret sections, each section led by Bonapartist agents, with a Bonapartist general at the head of the whole. Alongside decayed roués with dubious means of subsistence and of dubious origin, alongside ruined and adventurous offshoots of the bourgeoisie, were vagabonds, discharged soldiers, discharged jailbirds, escaped galley slaves, swindlers, mountebanks, lazzaroni,[105] pickpockets, tricksters, gamblers, maquereaux [pimps], brothel keepers, porters, literati, organ grinders, ragpickers, knife grinders, tinkers, beggars — in short, the whole indefinite, disintegrated mass, thrown hither and thither, which the French call la bohème; from this kindred element Bonaparte formed the core of the Society of December 10. A "benevolent society" - insofar as, like Bonaparte, all its members felt the need of benefiting themselves at the expense of the laboring nation. This Bonaparte, who constitutes himself chief of the lumpenproletariat, who here alone rediscovers in mass form the interests which he personally pursues, who recognizes in this scum, offal, refuse of all classes the only class upon which he can base himself unconditionally, is the real Bonaparte, the Bonaparte sans phrase.
For a clue that it is not pauperism and destitution per se that defines the lumpen for Marx, note that he includes in its ranks among others the literati and Louis Bonaparte
Compare this to his explanation of the reserve army of labour from Das Kapital https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch25.htm
American Elections General
Official Thread
Post here if your topic doesn't REALLY need its own thread.
American elections threads that are spamming up the catalog with simple questions, poll numbers, or stories about idpol in the election may be subject to bump locks from now on. The Europoors and others deserve to have some room to discuss their own issues, not just 24/7 Bernie and Trump.
Stuff that may deserve its own thread could include major debates/townhalls, primaries, MAJOR news about corruption, or similar stuff. Both mods and users should use their own judgement and discretion here. Users who see a thread they think belongs in here should sage and tell the OP to go in here or delete their own thread.
American political issues that AREN'T directly election-related still aren't subject to any moderation.
European Union-Turkey deal to expel refugees comes into force
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/03/22/eure-m22.html
By Jordan Shilton
22 March 2016
>The deal struck last Friday between the European Union’s 28 heads of government and Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu to facilitate the mass deportation of refugees arriving in Greece came into force on Sunday.
>The agreement, negotiated at a special two-day summit with the authoritarian Turkish regime, aims to seal off Europe’s borders to the millions of desperate people fleeing war and social misery produced by a series of wars and military interventions led by the imperialist powers. It represents a flagrant violation of international law by effectively abolishing the right to asylum, leaving the refugees at the mercy of the Turkish government.
>During the first day of the new regulations, an additional 1,500 refugees arrived on the Greek islands of Lesbos and Chios, bringing the total stranded in the country to more than 50,000. These new arrivals, and all those who subsequently reach Greece across the Aegean Sea, are to be returned to Turkey following a farcical asylum procedure which is intended to be completed within 48 hours. In exchange, the European Union (EU) pledged to accept Syrian refugees already in Turkey on the basis of a “one in, one out” principle, up to a maximum of 72,000.
>Greek officials and volunteers assisting the refugees on the islands have described chaotic conditions at camps and warned that the agreement may not be enforceable. Giorgos Kyritsis, coordinator for immigration policy in Athens, told the press that Syriza Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras presented a plan at a cabinet meeting on Saturday afternoon which demanded the immediate implementation of the EU-Turkey deal. “But in practice, structures are needed, personnel must be prepared and that takes a bit longer than 24 hours,” the official said.
>Military and security forces will play a prominent role in enforcing the deal. EU members are to send up to 1,500 officers with the EU’s border protection service Frontex, whose task will be to carry out the repatriation of refugees to Turkey. The Greek army was deployed to Lesbos on Saturday to move refugees to camps on the mainland.
>NATO’s operation in the Aegean Sea aimed at intercepting refugee boats and turning them back to Turkey is to be expanded to cover a longer stretch of coastline.
>The same European powers which have routinely invoked “human rights” concerns to justify one military intervention after another in the Middle East and North Africa are denying refugees the right to seek protection from the persecution and war which these very policies have produced. This is being justified on the spurious grounds that Turkey, a country engaged in a low-level civil war against the Kurdish population and ruthless repression of political opponents, should be designated a “safe third country.”
>Even if the new regulations are fully implemented, the minuscule figure of 72,000 refugees will be reached in a matter of weeks, at which point the EU has vowed to suspend the resettlement programme. Moreover, it remains entirely unclear which EU members will accept the initial 72,000 refugees, since no commitments were included in the deal.
>Those refugees deported to Turkey will virtually have no hope of ever reaching Europe, since the deal contains a provision to put asylum applications from people who have previously entered Europe “illegally” to the bottom of the pile.
>Turkey will receive up to €6 billion in financial assistance from the EU over the coming two years for its role in accepting refugees deported from Greece, even though Davutoglu has made clear his government’s intention to repatriate them to their home countries. In addition, Turkey is also being offered the prospect of visa free travel within the EU for its 75 million citizens if it meets a series of conditions, and the opening of a new chapter in Turkish negotiations to join the EU.
>The deal with the EU has strengthened Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in his brutal crackdown against political opponents and journalists. On the eve of last week’s summit in Brussels, Erdogan declared bluntly in a March 16 speech that criticism of Turkey on issues like “democracy, freedom and rule of law” were groundless. “For us, these phrases have absolutely no value any longer,” Erdogan continued.
>Seizing on the March 13 bombing in Ankara claimed by a splinter group of the Kurdish Workers Party (PKK) which left 37 dead, Erdogan announced his intention last week to expand the definition of terrorism to include MPs, journalists and activists. “Those who stand on our side in the fight against terrorism are our friend. Those on the opposite side, are our enemy,” he chillingly warned in his March 16 address.
I decided to go outside and talk with normies about socialism and I'm losing my fucking mind.
I didnt realize how classcucked, intentionally retarded or straight out sociopathic the general population is when it comes to leftist ideas. I had to deal with the brick wall of "b-but communism killed 100 gorillions". Despite explaining carefully what communism was and how none of those authoritarian govts where communists, it still wouldnt get into their heads.
Absolutely none of them were bothered by the fact that their labour was being exploited, it was either "the owners deserve their wealth" or some other form of classcuckery.
Those that did acknowledge that their labour surplus was taken were like "capitalism may be bad but its the best we have" or the classic "this is not real capitalism, muh free market will be better" (implying free markets have anything to do with surplus extraction)
Holy shit and then I had to deal with actual bourg or petit bourg cunts, some of them who were very liberal but revealed their true faces eg. "Workers are workers because they didnt work hard enough to be 1%" or "fucking communists want to take over my business"
And of course absolutely none of them budged from the "communism is government ownership :DDD"
Despite explaining that communism never meant that and carefully explaining different ideologies, like anarchism, mutualism, syndicalism, they just wouldnt fucking listen.
I realized one thing, people get defensive when I said things that absolutely make sense, like worker ownership. They try to change the subject as hard as possible, usually going back to the lame "communism is govt tyranny :DDD" despite me having spent 10 minutes just before explaining how it was not.
I am so fucking tired right now. I fully realize why we havent had a revolution already, its because the vast majority of people are FULLY in control by bourg propaganda.
Im seriously thinking of starting pamphleteering or holding public discussions or shit like that. Ive also stopped hiding my powerlevel entirely, openly telling everyone Im a communist.
Anyway, I wanna know what your IRL experiences are like with normies.
Stalin's economic achievements
I'll just leave it here.
I really feel like WW3 is coming. Looking at the conditions before WW2 it's uncanny.
When it happens, what are we to do? Will Leftism be able to make any gain during the chaos?
Also, where the fuck can I run and hide to? I dont wanna get conscripted.
Refugees
havent seen a discussion on this outside of /pol/ its funny since they seem more aware of current news and situations than us. so what do you guys think about refugees? are they the issue? should EU accept them? do you fear for your country's culture? what about the rape accusation, feminist shills or something to actually think about? how about the claim that 75% of refugees are males who dont need to get any help anywhere? what about the fact that the police are actively covering up for numerous refugee committed crimes? time to discuss some current event, comrades
Zizek's Criticism of Ultra-Localised Socialism
There are quite a few people here who would consider themselves in favour of direct democracy on localised scales. I am myself, even after hearing this criticism, but I just wanna hear some anarchists' responses to the criticism- can you still defend completely localised direct democracy after hearing it? Genuinely interested. I don't feel like I am able to defend a complete lack of centralisation for fear of instability in the region at this point. Maybe will even have to start supporting the idea of a centralised vanguard .
>People don't have the time nor energy to spend being always active in politics
>No anarchist region focused on direct democracy by local confederates has survived for more than 2 months
>Small scale operations don't have the capacity for fast, efficient action.
How would you respond to this? Ty.
TIL that Mother Teresa (who is going to be ordained as a saint by Pope Francis) once visited the grave of Hoxha and laid a wreath of flowers on his tomb.
Wat?
Conspiracy theories
What conspiracy theories does /leftypol/ believes in?
What does leftypol think of Peronism and Argentina in general?
What is the best facial hair/style for a communist and why is it the "Lenin"
It literally screams "I'm a genius"
feel free not to disagree
Education!
Hey comrades, come and visit your allied left-wing board, >>>/freedu/ - dedicated to free educational resources!
Ask questions, answer questions, post educational material, and learn something new! We've got hundreds of free texts, videos, and links to other free educational sites. Come and get involved!
http://ideas.ted.com/skyscrapers-but-no-sewage-system-meet-a-city-run-by-private-industry/
Entirely privatised cities. Is there where Porky is going next?
Maoist Third Worldist organization exposed as cops
http://planetearthliberation.blogspot.fr/2016/03/the-leading-light-communist.html
>This is a warning directed to activists and revolutionaries, particularly those residing in the North-American continent: if you value the safety and well-being of yourselves as well as that of your comrades, stay away from this organization. The Leading Light Communist Organization, who will henceforth be referred to by their chosen acronym, the LLCO, are a police front, or are working closely with the police vis a vis informant work, agent provocateur incursion within radical left groups and organizations, pig disinformation, psychological tactics and entrapment.
ylyl
ylyl commie version
How Communists Deal with Islam
In 1986 four Soviet embassy workers were kidnapped in Lebanon by Islamic extremists. The Soviets tried to negotiate but a few days later one of the captives was killed in cold blood. Within a few weeks though, the Soviets had secured the release of the other three hostages - how?
>According to Morris, the KBG determined the kidnapping to be the work of the Shiite Muslim group known as Hezbollah, or Party of God. This was the same radical pro-Iranian faction that figured so belligerently in the mass hostage-taking from the TWA airliner at Beirut Airport last June.
>Unlike the approach the United States used to resolve the TWA crisis, however, the Soviets did not bother negotiating with Hezbollah through Nabih Berri, Lebanon's justice minister and leader of the Shiite Amal militia.
>Instead, the KGB kidnapped a man they knew to be a close relative of a prominent Hezbollah leader. They then castrated him and sent the severed organs to the Hezbollah official, before dispatching the unfortunate kinsman with a bullet in the brain.
>In addition to presenting him with this grisly proof of their seriousness, the KGB operatives also advised the Hezbollah leader that they knew the indentities of other close relatives of his, and that he could expect more such packages if the three Soviet diplomats were not freed immediately.
Anyone who claims to be a Communist and yet finds excuses for the reactionary, violent, despicable religion that is Islam can fuck off back to /pol/ (after all, Hitler loved Islam!).
Stalin was right to abolish the Mosques in the Caucasus. The only thing these people understand is force.
Appreciating attempts at communism
Can we agree, that while not single state ever has managed to achieve communism (which itself is stateless) countries like Soviet Union, Cuba and Vietnam deserve credit for achievments like
>Giving people quality and free education.Removal of illiteracy.
>Giving people quality healthcare. Cuba, for example, has higher life expectancy than USA.
>Electification and industrilasation. Awesome economic growth. Russian Empire was poor and backwards, Soviet Union was second largest economy in the world with fast growth.
>Scientific achievments. Soviet's did lot's of aweome stuffs in space industry.
>Decolonisation and third world aid. Soviet Union did provide much aid for many third world countries and did give many African people free quality education.
>Forcing capitalism in the west to achieve human face and inspiring people to fight for their rights more.
vietnam war
ive been here for a few days and im reading several books on the left supplied by the lefties here, but ive yet to know your opinion on the war that happened in vietnam. why do you think the americans supplied the south to fight against the north, and why do you think the north won despite the south obviously having access to better weaponry and better trained soldiers?
Anyone know of any decent leftist-themed sci fi?
Listen up you fucks
Nihilism is shit. Egoism is shit. Anarchism is shit. Communisms that aren't anarchist are especially shit. Mutualism is shit.
The only sustainable model is democratic libertarian (not LOLbertarian) socialism. Revolution or democratic election ultimately doesn't matter and probably varies by country, the most important thing is that you try it.
By the way, socialism is not your "aesthetic". We have to consider what's actually possible.
Leftcoms od /leftypol/
Fellow leftcoms, are you part od some tendency ( or party or international ) ?
Are you sinthesists or councilists or communizationists… ?
Which leftcom thinkers inspired you most ?
Which theoretical works you consider most important ?
What is the best way to convince others of leftist thought?
http://www.submedia.tv/stimulator/2016/03/21/what-is-nationalism/
New video from the peeps at submedia
Enjoy
Help.. We have a referendum in The Netherlands about the EU associative agreement with Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93European_Union_Association_Agreement
Should I vote No for this agreement or Yes? I want to support Ukraine in their fight against Russia (since Russia has become massive porky and imperialist in Ukraine), but at the same time, I don't want to escalate the conflict between Russia and Ukraine.
The associative agreement is also a little bit porky. Check out the Wikipedia. But at the same time, it's also an agreement to fight corruption.
What should I vote? I'm also wondering what other Dutch comrades are voting.
1) Kill anyone who insults Islam or Mohammad. (Koran.33;57-61).
2) Kill all Muslims who leave Islam. (Koran.2;217/4;89/Bukhari.9;84-57).
3) Koran can't be doubted. (Koran.2;1).
4) Islam is the only acceptable religion. (Koran.3;85).
5) Muslims must fight (jihad) infidels, even if they don't want to. (Koran 3.151/8,12/2;216).
6) We the non-Muslims are pigs and apes. (Koran. 2;62-65/Koran.5;59-60/Koran.7;166).
7) Muslims cannot be friends with Infidels. (Koran.5;51).
8) We the Infidels are sworn enemies of Muslims and Islam. (Koran.4;101).
9) Infidels can be raped as sex slaves. (Koran.4;3 & 24/5;89/23;5/33;50/58;3/70;30).
10) Infidels the vilest of creatures deserving no mercy. (Koran.98;6).
11) Muslims must terrorize us (Infidels). (Koran.8;12 &59-60/ Bukhari.4;52;220).
12) Muslims must strike terror into non-Muslims hearts. (Koran.8;60).
13) Muslims are allowed to crucify and amputate us (Infidels). Koran.8;12/47;4).
14) Muslims are allowed to behead us (Infidels) (Koran.47;4).
15) Muslims are guaranteed heaven if they kill us (non-Muslims). (Koran.9;111).
16) Marrying and divorcing pre-pubescent children is OK. (Koran.65;4).
17) Wife beating is OK. (Koran.4;34).
18) Raping wives is OK. (Koran.2;223).
19) Proving rape requires 4 (four) male Muslim witnesses. (Koran.24;13).
20) Muslims must lie to us (Infidels) to strengthen and spread Islam. (Koran.3;28?16;106).
How do we despook idpol in leftists community?
REEEEEEEE
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/18328#efmADMAFf
"state" ownership of the means and production and socialism
Comrade, I have a very simple question.
In advance, I know the USSR was not democratic. This is not about the USSR, forgive if I slightly misuse the terms.
Socialism and communism is about collective ownership of the means of production (or lack of private property, which is basically the same, ie is everyone is super none is). This would mean that the means of production are owned collectively by society.
If this is correct, then how is state socialism supposedly not socialism, since the state, and by extension society, given that the state or "state-but-not-called-a-state" is democratic, is everybody? Is a situation wherein society as a whole controls the state (worldwide state, federation, syndicate, what have you) and thus means of production, not socialism? It does not have classes, since there is no one who owns or controls the means of production more than the other. There is no private property, since all means of production are owned collectively and democratically by society. It seems to me that state socialism, by this definition, would actually be socialism. In my opinion, it would even be more democratic than lots of independent communes trading between each other, which is what I saw people claim to be socialism or communism.
Am I totally off the path here? Did I make an error? Or is it simply the case that the term "state socialism" has been smeared by state despotism (IE ruled by a few and not society, a-la Stalin and most famous failed left-wing states).
And please, I ask you to not spaz out over the term state. If the word triggers you that much, just imagine it says whatever state-like organisation you imagine to facilitate cooperation, expansion and distribution.
Also, fix your site, hotwheels.
The gun debate
As a liberal that thinks everyone should be free to smoke pot, marry whomever and be protected by regulations, it seems a big part of the /pol/ mindset is that somehow liberals want to take guns away from people so the government can declare martial law or something.
To any curious right-wingers lurking the board, let me say that I, for one, do not want to take your guns away from you. But you have to admit your firearms collection is not literally holding tyranny back.
We all feel scared sometimes. There are many Americans that don't live close to a police station, and so they feel that they need to take their defense into their own hands. That's reasonable, like if a rancher wants to protect his livestock or a rural guy wants to protect his family. We're talking about at the most, a carful or two of violent perpetrators. But unless you have an army, there's no point in storing more guns than you can carry during a possible incident. That's my first point, unless you're planning a massacre, it's silly to have more guns than you can effectively carry at one time.
Second, if a government steps towards fascism, it's done in Congress, with the PATRIOT act, or in the courts like the Citizens United ruling. These two things have enormous effects on our government and therefore our lives. I don't recall guns somehow intervening and preventing any law. If there comes a point where the secret police have knocked on your door demanding your weapons, it'll already be too late. Waiting for a physical confrontation before being politically active and informed is lazy and short-sighted. It's like stocking up on vitamins while your tumor grows unchecked.
I propose a solution that will please human hole-punching enthusiasts and their detractors.
1. Background checks for mental illness and criminal records involving violent crime before any purchase is made. I'm sure you trust you to have a gun, but I was actually in a mental hospital, do you trust me?
2. Every gun comes with a finger scanning device. No internet, no way to download the fingerprint, just a device that scans, records and saves that fingerprint. The gun can only work of the finger is touching one part of the handle the entire time. This prevents users aside from the background-checked buyer from using it. This also prevents someone from stealing the gun and using it, it can never be reset. This device is also turned on by the retailer when it's properly sold, like a credit card.
3. Invest in free mental health facilities and outreah programs in every state so deranged individuals can get help for free before they go off the deep end. It will pay for itself when violent crime drops.
Questions? Comments? I'd like to know.
Has anyone here heard of the Kids for Cash scandal?
In case you don't know what it is, two judges from Pennsylvania were convicted of accepting bribes from builders of private for-profit juvenile detention centers in exchange for sentencing kids to the prison for minor offenses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal
So what is your take on the whole for profit prison ordeal? What can we do to stop it?
Bernie hasn't lost. In fact, he might win.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-alan-grayson/democratic-presidential-primary-2_b_9459766.html
>The net effect of this (Hillary winning the “Old South” by 43 points, Bernie winning everywhere else by 20 points) is a Clinton lead among pledged delegates of 223 (specifically, 775 to 552).
>Democratic presidential primary 2.0 elects a total of 2033 pledged delegates. If Bernie Sanders wins those races (and delegates) by the same 60-40 margin that he has amassed in primaries and caucuses outside the “Old South” to date, then that will give him an advantage of 407 pledged delegates. That is more — far more — than the current Clinton margin of 223.
Don't fall for the bullshit comrades. The meme delegates and super tuesday wins for Hillary Clinton are merely intimidation tactics used by the establishment media to try and trick everyone into thinking that Bernie is done for and to suppress millennial voter turnout. Don't fall for the propaganda. Bernie can still win the nomination.
2008 and 2016 elections and their differences
why do i feel like the 2008 election was a lot more calm and rational? i felt like back then, it didnt matter to be which party won, either candidates were going to do great and the country would be awesome. now, hillary vs trump is just a load of cowshit, a dumb lying feminist cunt vs a racist corporate piece of trash. why cant things be as good as 2008?
>inb4 2012, nobody gives a shit about that, everyone knew obama was going to win
/leftypol/ demographics
POLL TIME COMRADES
POLL TIME COMRADES
This poll is meant to stimate the population of Anarchists and Marxists.
THE QUESTION
>I lean more towards…
THE OPTIONS
>a) Anarchism
>b) Marxism
This way, we reduce the options to two, giving the individuals the option they most identify with, without taking in considerations further ideological distinctions.
Holy fuck it just got real.
>pyd (syrian kurds): 'if (our declaration of) federal structure isn't accepted, we'll declare independence.'
Posthumanism?
Opinions /leftypol/?
Where will you be when the singularity happens?
I have some questions regarding the views of the posters here
Helllo
First off, I'll state that when i originally lurked here, i didn't take much of it serious, and i thought those that did were doing it to be ironic. Though, i was in fact, wrong.
Many of you here have some very nice ideas, viewpoints, and schools of thought. I'm finding it all quite interesting.
First Question
As i have not been here too long, i was under the impression that people juet post ironically. I now do not believe that to be the case, but i would like to hear an opinion on this from people who frequent often. Is it mostly memes? Are there sierious discussions? I know it's an imageboard, and you can't escape memes, i have no problem with them actually; they're fun. My main question is how many of the posters here are legitimate, read theory, and are serious, or at least semi-serious with the things they say?
Second Question
Buzzwords
What are/is
>spooks
>porkys
>bourgeois
>seizing the means of production
>Cultural Marxis (i get called this all the time, I've watched videos and read articles about it, but I'm not sure i get what they are trying to say)
>stirner (that meme guy with the meme face)
Third question
Anarchism
Okay, i see a lot of different ideas and sects about it. I'm not too sure how it works though. This is probably because i associate that word with total destruction of everything, though i know that generally isn't the case. How do i find out more about actual anarchy and the sects it has? Are there any books and documentaries you would recommend?
Fourth question
What are you doing with your vote
(if you live in the US)
If Bernie doesn't make it, what are you going to do if It's Trump vs Clinton?
Part of me wants to say Trump, as i believe for the greater good it could further ignite the flames for revolution. Another part of me says to settle with the status Que and vote for Hillary (even if she doesn't represent any of my political beliefs)
I hear many say that if i don't vote for her, Trump will win, so therefore i must vote for her. But i also feel like that would be betraying myself. This lesser evil argument gives me a headache.
Normally i would vote independent anyway, but I'm just getting hounded for this. So I'm sort of at a crossroads on this. Can anyone give me an explanation for why the one choice is right, and the other wrong, and vice-vera?
thanks
NYC criminalizes can-recyclers so they can't "steal recycling's future"
It's Zizek's birthday!
And yet, it seems like it isn't… Have we forgotten about our beloved Sniff Man of Pure Ideologies?
What should we do, /leftypol/?
Famous contemporary leftists.
Hi guys. Everybody knows Jeremy Corbyn and Bernie Sanders, but what are some more must know famous left wing politicians and personalities?
Friendly debate time
Keep it friendly, sectarian idpol bullshit contributes nothing to an argument. Explain your position.
This debate will center on a question for all anarchists.
>How will you protect the revolution from bourgeois forces?
This question is based on the idea that a Marxist revolution will be stronger and able to protect itself due to centralization.
What's your response, /leftypol/?
Favorite liberals? Picture related.
(last submission is fucked up sorry)
Why has never anyone talked about this?
99 hours in the GIMP
kojima
where do you think he sits politically? is MGS /leftypol/ approved?
DPRK
I unironically support the Democratic Peoples Republic of (Best) Korea and think it should be used an example for the rest of the world.
I also support the supreme leader, its regime, and the Korean people.
Ask my anything.
How did antifa go from Vidal Sassoon breaking up Nazi rallies to this?
Hidden hand
What does /leftypol/ think about so called 'Hidden hand' and all the conspiracy theories surrounding it?
The truth of anime
Tojo rises
Ideology Straw Poll
Ideology Straw Poll
What is your preferred ideology?
So what media figures in your country do you believe are clearly hiding their power level?
Here in Australia:
Tim Dunlop, Bernard Keane, Helen Razer and John Pilger
Tim Dunlop always sneakily drops Marxist/Socialist concepts into his articles, Keane has a history with Trotskyist organizations and far-left Unions, Razer always trolls Liberals with her Marxist analysis and Pilger, well Pilger needs no explanation.
Hey, first time commenting on here because I don't know where else to post this. Im assuming from what ive seen on here before that the user base dose not like the far left or the "Regressives" I honestly didn't support that term or think it was a real thing until today
Ive been apart of this facebook group for over 2 years now. Its a kind of random topic page. On this facebook group I dared to slightly defend Trump supporters by saying not every single one of them is a racist. The nerve of me right? And now a majority of the black members on the group page called me a coon and a house nigger (I am black) while calling me a Trump supporter even tho I hate the man. The thread quickly devolved into name calling from both me and the other users commenting. When I tried making a second thread clarifying what I meant saying "I DO NOT SUPPORT TRUMP" They pretty much just spammed the page over and over again with dank memes. And now I was kicked out of the group without warning saying "You were reporting admins" I was literally taking a nap at the time. A group I was apart of for over 2 years with people I was very friendly with just gone. Because I as a black man had the nerve to not even side with Trump but to slightly defend his support and now Im a traitor to my race.
Because I dared go out of line and speak out of turn…
Ive been called more racist slurs by my own people in the spand of an hour then I have by racist whites my entire life. And even when I said that in the thread they just laughed at me followed by more dank memes
I don't know how to feel right now. Im very progressive in my views and would never betray my party but seeing the radical left for the first time in my face was just jarring. Its honestly not that im sensitive to being called a nigger is just the fact that 1. Its coming from people who I thought were my friends 2. Its coming from other fucking black people. 3. If a Trump supporter said something even half as bad that group would lose their mind.
Id just like some insight from some leftist anons and how you feel about this.
Red Faction
Which of the Red Faction games has the most explicit message and most numerous references to communism and anti-capitalism?
Social democracy versus democratic socialism
What's the difference and similarities between social democracy and democratic socialism?
What do you think of Maoist influence on modern perceptions of communism? Was China always doomed to the path of state capitalism?
are there any good strategy games where you control the soviet union or any other communist country ?
Unroo: A Meme, A Man, A Legend
What can be salvaged from Jason's ramblings? We can all agree that Turd Worldism is a shit ideology. We can also admit that he's been long since BTFO'd by that Trot. But I will admit he was one of the first to spark my interest in leftism, and I still think he's somewhat redeemable.
For instance, I thought his various attacks on Lolbertarians were OK. I also remember his "Hitler wasn't a Socialist" string of videos were pretty decent. So I feel that at least a few of you see something salvageable from his crashed plane of ideology.
Men's right activism
What does /leftypol/ think about men's rights and men's rights activism?
/leftypol/ Reads: Week 3
Continuation of >>593454
Once again, a day late thanks to just coming back from vacation. Better late than never.
You’re tuning in to the /leftypol/ reading group.
This edition:
Marxian Theory: thank Christ, FINALLY, this is what we came here for in the first place
This week’s flag is still Garl Margs, and the book is ‘’Marxian Economics through the book Contending Economic Theories: Neoclassical, Keynesian, and Marxian’’ by Richard Wolff. We’ve had a bit of a break with the last week in terms of length of content covered, so we’re going to push ahead now with the whole of Chapter 4 on Marxian theory (118 pages).
Here’s the link to a shared doc of the pdf so that annotations can be a bit more directly interactive between contributors:
(if you skip login, you can view and edit anonymously)
For those who don’t want to use this but still want to contribute, feel free to still submit annotation to pdfs as you like through the thread itself: I will be merging it all before we move on to the next book anyways.
Next week is still up in the air as to what we do. The poll I put out last week is still neck and neck, though if we don’t get a winner by next week, I’ll just say we’re moving on since it seems like a number of people have grown tired of this book.
As always, here is the poll for the flag order:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/328VDCZ
The next two topics I’ve personally decided will be anarchism and socialism respectively in order to give background for later material. However, after that, we’ll cover thing in the order that you guys vote on.
Along with the static reading list posted in the PDF file, here also a google doc for a continuously updated version that you are free to add suggestions/revisions to as you feel is right.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17QzZD613I_Tij-IEfL7gStzs3qgbie6T42MMlgWMUyo/edit?usp=sharing
I'm starting a thread on 4/b/
Need all your propaganda. Especially dank memes.
Castro government welcomes Obama, US corporate heads to Cuba
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/03/21/cuba-m21.html
By Alexander Fangmann
21 March 2016
>President Barack Obama traveled to Cuba on Sunday, leading an enormous US delegation that has been reported as comprising as many as 1,200 people, large enough to be described with some justification as an invading force of American politicians and corporate executives.
>With the trip, Obama becomes the first sitting president to visit the country since 1928, when Calvin Coolidge arrived on the USS Texas. While Obama flew into Havana aboard Air Force One and not a naval gunboat, the trip is no less a projection of US imperialism’s power over its impoverished island neighbor.
>Symbolic of the future role the US envisions for itself in Cuba, Obama and his family, including wife Michelle Obama, daughters Sasha and Malia, and his mother-in-law, will be staying at the US ambassador’s residence. The residence, a 32,000 square foot neoclassical mansion half the size of the White House, was built in 1941 as a winter residence for the US president, and was completed during the same period that the US government built up the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base on the eve of US participation in the Second World War.
>After arriving on Sunday, Obama is expected to greet Cardinal Jaime Ortega at Havana’s cathedral. Ortega played a key role in the secret negotiations facilitated by Pope Francis that resulted in the 2014 agreement between Obama and Cuban President Raúl Castro to restore diplomatic relations between the two countries.
>On Monday, he is expected to lay a wreath at the José Martí Memorial, after which he will meet Raúl Castro for an official meeting at the Palace of the Revolution. In the afternoon he is to be part of an “entrepreneurship summit” to which hundreds of Cubans have been invited, and will take part in a formal state dinner in the evening. On Tuesday, he is expected to give a speech that will be broadcast on Cuban television, followed by a meeting with Cuban dissidents at the US Embassy.
>Underscoring the extent to which economic motivations are a primary consideration in the US moves toward closer relations, the US delegation includes four cabinet secretaries, including Commerce Secretary Penny Pritzker, billionaire heiress to the Hyatt hotels fortune, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, Secretary of State John Kerry, and the administrator of the Small Business Administration, Maria Contreras-Sweet.
>A bipartisan group of at least 38 members of Congress are also reportedly accompanying Obama. Eight senators will be in Cuba, including Dick Durbin, the second-highest ranking Democrat in the Senate, and Patrick Leahy, the Senate’s longest-serving member. Thirty members of the House of Representatives will be there as well, most notably Nancy Pelosi, the House Minority Leader.
>Representing US business interests are Marriott CEO Arne Sorenson, Xerox CEO Ursula Burns, CEO of PayPal Daniel Schulman, CEO of FUBU Daymond John, and Brian Chesky, the president and founder of Airbnb. Also present will be Julie Hanna, the CEO of Kiva, an organization specializing in crowd-funded “micro-loans” and one of the partners in Cleber, an Alabama-based company that has received authorization to build a tractor manufacturing facility in Cuba.
>Aside from these individuals, the US Chamber of Commerce is leading a large delegation, as is Major League Baseball, which will have around 200 people in Cuba. Among them are Commissioner Rob Manfred and other top officials, as well as the Tampa Bay Rays, who are scheduled to play an exhibition game for Obama and other grandees on Tuesday against the Cuban national baseball team.
>The large influx of US corporate and government officials has reportedly taken up 1,200 hotel rooms and displaced travelers during the days of the visit, with prices for hotel rooms tripling to $600 per night.
>The move toward a normalization of relations and an end to the long-standing Cuban embargo is being carried out under pressure from US business interests, who are not interested in standing by while European rivals, regional powers such as Brazil, and especially China, reap the lion’s share of profits from doing business in Cuba as Cuban leaders open up the Cuban economy to direct foreign exploitation.
>As such, the US visit is very much part of a renewed effort on the part of US imperialism to shore up domination in “its own” hemisphere after what it sees as substantial incursions on the part of China and the growth of influence of Brazil in the region. Notably, the massive Brazilian construction company Odebrecht, which is now under fire for its involvement in the corruption scandal engulfing the Brazilian government, was principally responsible for the expansion of the port of Mariel, which can accommodate Chinese ships passing through the Panama Canal.
/leftypol/ in the States
Are there any non-idpol radical left organizations in the States that I could get involved in? I'm interested in spreading the word and participating in the movement, but there seems to be no non-idpol organizations where I live (Indiana).
Do any of you know of any particularly good leftist organizations in Indiana, the Midwest, or the United States in general?
"state" ownership of the means and production and socialism
Comrade, I have a very simple question.
In advance, I know the USSR was not democratic. This is not about the USSR, forgive if I slightly misuse the terms.
Socialism and communism is about collective ownership of the means of production (or lack of private property, which is basically the same, ie is everyone is super none is). This would mean that the means of production are owned collectively by society.
If this is correct, then how is state socialism supposedly not socialism, since the state, and by extension society, given that the state or "state-but-not-called-a-state" is democratic, is everybody? Is a situation wherein society as a whole controls the state (worldwide state, federation, syndicate, what have you) and thus means of production, not socialism? It does not have classes, since there is no one who owns or controls the means of production more than the other. There is no private property, since all means of production are owned collectively and democratically by society. It seems to me that state socialism, by this definition, would actually be socialism. In my opinion, it would even be more democratic than lots of independent communes trading between each other, which is what I saw people claim to be socialism or communism.
Am I totally off the path here? Did I make an error? Or is it simply the case that the term "state socialism" has been smeared by state despotism (IE ruled by a few and not society, a-la Stalin and most famous failed left-wing states).
And please, I ask you to not spaz out over the term state. If the word triggers you that much, just imagine it says whatever state-like organisation you imagine to facilitate cooperation, expansion and distribution.
Favorite liberals?
Picture related.
Bertrand Russell — The Practice and Theory of Bolshevism
Bertrand Russell's first-hand documentary account of the USSR in 1920.
Excellent anti-Leninist material for Socialists, Anarchists, and Communists who are against Bolshevism and its ideological offspring.
Available free in various formats via Project Gutenberg:
If Venezuela's economic problems are just caused by overreliance on oil, wouldn't a planned economy solve their problems?
Frankfurt School
What does /leftypol/ think about Frankfurt School and all the conspiracy theories surrounding it?
i thought ghost was never coming back…
/pol/ punks mainline conservatives again
When was the last time you guys fucked with soc dems?
Liberals
Liberals
How do we get them on our side? Is there any point in trying to? Can they be won over by exploiting their lack of consistency and agitating them on issues liberal platitudes cannot solve? Do liberals have anything in common with the left?
Asking because I used to be a liberal before discovering /leftypol/. You guys got me to read a whole lot of leftist literature and ultimately won me over by despooking me. Now, I'm by no means well-read yet but I'd consider myself a Marxist now. Would it be that easy for other liberals to convert like this?
Reminder
>See cute girl online
>Decide to text her
>Start hitting it off
>9/10
>Start explaining leftist theory
>She isn't convinced
>hmmmmm
>Decide to talk about other ideologies
>becomes increasingly more convinced that libertarianism is a true path to liberation
>increasingly starts becoming more self centered
>lealienation.jpg
>one day get bored and horny
>go on chaturbate
>mfw I see her on the front page
>ask her why she's doing it and not telling me
>starts talking about money and something about liquidity
Moral of the story: don't date ancaps
PragerU DISMANTLES socialism!
We had a good run guys but PragerU just dispelled all the fiction around socialism
What even is Anarcho Nihilism?
Should I take the Grey pill?
Post-modernism, while a loose definition and an (inevitably) shaky set of ideas, can broadly be said to be ideas coming from after the modern period that formed around the premise that there are no more grand narratives. In post modernism nothing is sacred and nothing is true, the universe is infinite subjectivities and there is no one truth.
"Before the sacred, people lost all sense of power and all confidence; they occupy a powerless and humble attitude toward it. And yet no thing is sacred of itself, but by declaring it sacred, by my declaration, my judgment, my bending the knee; in short, by my - conscience." Max Stirner
"Man, your head is haunted; you have wheels in your head! You imagine great things, and depict to yourself a whole world of gods that has an existence for you, a spirit-realm to which you suppose yourself to be called, an ideal that beckons to you. You have a fixed idea!" Max Stirner
"Crimes spring from fixed ideas." Max Stirner
"Man has not really vanquished Shamanism and its spooks till he possesses the strength to lay aside not only the belief in ghosts or in spirits, but also the belief in the spirit." Max Stirner
So, Max Stirner was an early post-modernist. What is the leftypol beef with post modernism?
Or, is this link what exposes post modernism as the egoist trash it is, the only grand narrative worth believing in being the satiating of your own appetites?
Jacobin Gun Club
/leftypol/ doesn't have the political tout or infrastructure to form a gun club, but I think Jacobin Magazine could. How can we reach out to the people behind JacobinMag and get them to consider forming a gun club?
From the sounds of it, Canadurps are wanting to try their hand at at privatizing shit. Shit's going to be bad fam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlgTP4tTUJQ
Guys, I'm scared of this shit happening. I also want to stress that political correctness is supposed to be narrative manipulation, and softening of language created by corporations originally. Most Trumpfags don't get it.
What caused the Yugoslavian economy to fall apart?
Is /leftypol/ authoritarian? Or would are its views compatible with the roughly libertarian idea of the government being a necessary evil?
Reminder that workers turning to religion is a consequence of alienation and that socialists should not seek to attack religion itself, but the material conditions that spur people to use it as an "opiate".
Can someone give me the lowdown and all the facts of Greece austerity?
My dad claims it happened because Greeks are lazy.
adding "classcuck" to urban dictionary
thoughts? could it be improved anywhere?
An imperialist capitalist Japanese murderer, devil and anime producer was teaching a class on Hirohito, known reactionary.
"Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Amaterasu and accept that the Japanese monarchy are descended from divinity and are the most divine beings on earth, even greater than Mao Zedong!“
At this moment, a brave, patriotic, socialist PLA veteran who had served on the entire Long March and understood the necessity of the Great Leap Forward and fully supported all military decision made by the Politburo stood up and held up a copy of Quotations from Chairman Mao.
"What is in this book, pinhead?”
The arrogant Japanese devil smirked like the hairy goblin he was and smugly replied “Some communist nonsense, you stupid chankoro”.
"Wrong. It’s been 66 years since the Communist party single-handedly liberated China from Japanese imperialism and capitalism, if it was nonsense as you say… then China should not be an superpower now".
The Jap was visibly shaken, and dropped his sword, his Toyota car keys and copy of Shinmin no Michi. He stormed out of the room crying those reactionary imperialist tears. The same tears Japs today cry for their “war heroes” (who today they still worship in dedicated temples) when they jealously try to deny the historicity of the Nanjing Massacre in front of the proud Chinese people. There is no doubt that at this point our professor, Nakamura Hideki, wished he had pulled himself up by his bootstraps and become more than an imperialist Japanese devil. He wished so much that he had a gun to shoot himself from embarrassment, but he himself had used all his ammunition shooting unarmed Chinese workers and peasants!
The students applauded and all joined the Communist party that day and accepted Mao Zedong as their Chairman and the Red Sun of their hearts. An eagle named “Mao Zedong Thought” flew into the room and perched atop the Chinese Flag and shed a tear on the chalk. "Combat Liberalism" was read several times, and Xi Jinping himself turned up to teach the children about the importance of gradualist Marxism.
The Japanese devil lost his position and was fired the next day. He was forced to commit seppuku and then his body was thrown into the sea.
Mao Zedong wan sui.
p.s. Diaoyu is Chinese territory
Is rationality a spook?
I'm spending the week in Atlanta. I'd like to connect with like-minded individuals. What should I do?
Pic not related, it's my cat
GHOST IS BACK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gfpyz8zRGs
How long before /pol/ starts defending him because he's just like them?
Why do Third Worldists like roo boy have to rely on this psuedo-provacative facebook "one like = one prayer" bullshit?
This is the highest degree of moralistic sophistry.
So is it actually feasible for westerners to join the YPG?
convincing arguments against patriotism
Alright leftypol,
as I live in Germany, most discussions with right-wingers boil down to their "patriotism".
What are >convincing< arguments against patriotism? How can/would you, should one get into a humane discussion with one of those nobheads, twist their minds?
Hitler
Hey /leftypol/, /pol/ here.
I never lurked here, so I know very little of your ideas, but I'm very interested to learn about certain subjects.
I've been meaning to ask you on Not Socialism in general, but the question seemed too broad. So I'm wondering what are your opinions of the leader of NS ?
What do you think about Hitler?
How do you judge his actions?
Are you well-informed on the subject of Hitler ?
Thanks for your awnsers
Feminism is capitalist at the core and bulk
So I've heard that feminism is capitalist both in the foundation of the ideas it professes and in the bulk of its musings and reactions to the world. Here on leftypol. A refreshing reply compared to the numerous sages I get for not liking SJWs and authoritarian "collectivism".
Could I get more details about this from someone that are specific about modern feminism and the origins of feminism?
Leftypol Anime Thread
Leftypol Anime Thread
Discuss about Socialism, Marxism, or any other leftypol related things in anime
Saint-Patrick's Day/Hibernian Conspiracy
Hey Sasanach!
Who wants a pot of gold from your fellow Irishman?
Also, blow up a couple Imperialist British double-buses while you're at it.
Why has today's Left pretty much forgotten its duty of attacking religion and religious institutions?
Is it a post-Dawkins, "ugh we're not like this" type of shit?
Hi, /leftypol/. Former Classical Liberal here.
I'm leaning more and more towards the radical left as the days go by, honestly, and I'm interested in your answer to this one common argument that people like me will spout:
"Socialism doesn't work/has never worked on a large scale!" and "Communism wouldn't work on a large scale!
Is there any literature that I can read that contradicts these points? The more I look into it, the more I realize that I can't really answer as to /why/ it wouldn't work on a large scale, and it was more or less a meme that I was parroting, but I am genuinely curious as to your response to this kind of thing.
What does /leftypol/ think of National-Anarchism?
Thoughts?
Are there any Brazilians on here?
How do you see your country's future?
Neo liberalism vs neo conservatism
What's the real difference between neo liberalism and neo conservatism? Both appear to be very pro capitalist, pro privatisation and pro free market.
The only difference I can spot between them are indentiy politics garbage like gay rights…
I would say the only alternative to modern ay garbage politics is socialism.
Dank leftist may mays
i need dank may mays in favor of leftists, comrades. supply me with your dankest may mays and collect some for yourself for future use. there was one yesterday but it pretty much died
Stop Yelling At Me For Being Conservative - What you shouldn't say to millennial Republicans.
>"You're just a college girl, what do you know about politics?"
>Yeah, I'm a basic white girl. I wear Converse to class and my sorority's letters are on my rear windshield. Guess what, though — I do my research. I've been following the presidential campaigns for months now. I've watched the debates, read the articles, visited the websites and studied the polls. I may be in a sorority and I may wear Converse, but I know what I'm talking about when it comes to this stuff. So, if you ask for my opinion, be prepared to hear a well-thought-out, educated answer.
>"You're so selfish."
>Define selfish. I want my money to be my money and I want my rights to be my rights; I was unaware that that labels me as "selfish." I am confident that I can survive without the government's help.
>"But don't you care about the old people/the kids/the environment/the homeless people/etc?"
>Yes, I do. What I don't like is that my hard-earned money gets taken from me and used for other things. I'm not against helping out, don't get me wrong. I would love to donate to charities to help children and homeless people and the planet, that is if I had enough money to do so. Sadly, that money gets taken from me through taxes (Which could be considered forced donation, if you ask me. How is that fair?).
>"You're hateful and/or heartless."
>Nah. What I am is honest, self-sufficient and confident that other people can be honest and self-sufficient.
>"You're crazy if you'd vote Trump over Sanders or Clinton if he's the chosen GOP candidate."
>Please enlighten me on how this makes me "crazy." In this upcoming election, I will be voting for the candidate chosen by my political affiliation. The Republican Party's only strong opposing candidates include a self-proclaimed Socialist and a woman under FBI investigation. What I would consider "crazy" is if I voted for Sanders or Clinton over Donald Trump, just because Trump has offended some people before. (And no, this is not me saying I'm a loud and proud Trump supporter. In fact, Cruz has my vote either until he's elected into office or until Trump is chosen as the GOP candidate.)
http://theodysseyonline.com/ksu/stop-yelling-at-me-for-being-conservative/343522
What is your honest opinion of this man's leadership?
could trump hypothetically get away with building his wall meme? would US constitution allow him to do it? would state legislation and politicians (southern states bordering on mexico) allow him to? would american citizens allow it? would it solve anything, given the fact that mexicans are already leaving the US more than they're entering it? would trump face legal charges or pentalties for doing it? would he maybe get assassinated or indicted?
Daily reminder that nothing will matter after the environment turns to shit and humans drown in our own filth. If you aren't at least somewhat an environmentalist, you are a cuck and should be stoned figuratively. Doesn't matter if you're a socialist, communist or a fucking gay anarcho-authoritarianist nazi, the environment needs to be conserved immediately.
SJW thread
What do you think about SJWs and their dumbass gender identity crap, /lefties/?
is it a fad or something of the future? do lefties agree with these social justice warriors? heres what i think:
>retarded gender pronouns
>unnecessary PC language that opposes to free speech
>gender neutral bathrooms are fucking retarded and autistic
>thinks the world should change for them instead of the opposite
>against slut shaming
>against religion, not that im religious but this is fucking fascism
>identify themselves as socialists but barely read or understand the basic concept of it. im not joking, ask any SJWs anything about socialism, they dont know shit
>most have identity issues and should be put in mental treatment
>racist against whites
>irrationally support muslims and their radical views, tolerance is fine but some of these sjws act like muslims are angels from another realm. they arent.
>hate straight white males
>basically social oppression from the left
Do you plan to protest Donald Trump's term in office? Could it be used to drive people further to the left?
Gamers and Consumer Ideology
I see gamers often accused of being rank consumerists pretty often, but I think that it really depends on what kind of gamer they are. If they're into console wars or they actually buy games, then I think it's fair to say they're pretty classcucked. But if they just pirate a lot of games and happen to enjoy talking about and criticizing games, then that's not conspicuous consumption, is it? They're barely even a consumer base in such an instance.
I think /leftypol/ needs to appreciate Alain Badiou's polemic skills a bit more.
>What remains of the labours of the ‘new philosophers’ who have been enlightening us — or, in other words, deadening our minds – for 30 years now? What really remains of the great ideological machinery of freedom, human rights, the West and its values? It all comes down to a simple negative statement that is as bald as it is flat and as naked as the day it was born: socialisms, which were the communist Idea’s only concrete forms, failed completely in the twentieth century. Even they have had to revert to capitalism and non-egalitarian dogma. That failure of the Idea leaves us with no choice, given the complex of the capitalist organization of production and the state parliamentary system. Like it or not, we have to consent to it for lack of choice. And that is why we now have to save the banks rather than confiscate them, hand out billions to the rich and give nothing to the poor, set nationals against workers of foreign origin whenever possible, and, in a word, keep tight controls on all forms of poverty in order to ensure the survival of the powerful. No choice, I tell you! As our ideologues admit, it is not as though relying on the greed of a few crooks and unbridled private property to run the state and the economy was the absolute Good. But it is the only possible way forward. In his anarchist vision, Stirner described man, or the personal agent of History, as ‘the Ego and his own’. Nowadays, it is ‘Property as ego’.
>Which means that we have to think about the notion of failure. What exactly do we mean by ‘failure’ when we refer to a historical sequence that experimented with one or another form of the communist hypothesis? What exactly do we mean when we say that all the socialist experiments that took place under the sign of that hypothesis ended in ‘failure’? Was it a complete failure? By which I mean: does it require us to abandon the hypothesis itself, and to renounce the whole problem of emancipation? Or was it merely a relative failure? Was it a failure because of the form it took or the path it explored? Was it a failure that simply proves that it was not the right way to resolve the initial problem?
>A comparison will shed light on my conviction. Take a scientific problem, which may well take the form of a hypothesis until such time as it is resolved. It could be, for example, that ‘Fermat’s theorem’ is a hypothesis if we formulate it as: ‘For >n, I assume that the equation x2 + yn = zn has no whole solutions (solutions in which x, y and z are whole numbers).’ Countless attempts were made to prove this, from Fermat, who formulated the hypothesis (and claimed to have proved it, but that need not concern us here), to Wiles, the English mathematician, who really did prove it a few years ago. Many of those attempts became the starting point for mathematical developments of great import, even though they did not succeed in solving the problem itself. It was therefore vital not to abandon the hypothesis for the three hundred years during which it was impossible to prove it. The lessons of all the failures, and the process of examining them and their implications, were the lifeblood of mathematics. In that sense, failure is nothing more than the history of the proof of the hypothesis, provided that the hypothesis is not abandoned. As Mao puts it, the logic of imperialists and all reactionaries the world over is ‘make trouble, fail, make trouble again’, but the logic of the people is ‘fight, fail, fail again, fight again … till their victory’.
>It will be argued here, via a detailed discussion of three examples (May ’68, the Cultural Revolution and the Paris Commune), that the apparent, and sometimes bloody, failures of events closely bound up with the communist hypothesis were and are stages in its history.
http://mariborchan.si/text/articles/alain-badiou/what-is-called-a-failure/
Can someone share resources/information/whatever about race, please? Here's some things I heard, but have a hard time believing, on 4chan:
1. Mixed race people have a high probability of having physical or mental issues due solely to their genetic makeup.
2. Humans work best with those of their own race
3. Race is defined in our genes, and not merely a convenient categorization for certain phenotypes
4. There is something called "anuddah shoah" in which whites are being killed, or their culture destroyed, on purpose, from within the "white race" and from without
I hope none of the word filters get my post.
While we are at it, can I be educated on "cultural Marxism", too please? I see this term used a lot by the GamerGate people and those who I assume to be altright in general.
Thanks, /leftypol/.
Okay I know you guys are going to think I'm shitposting but I'm actually scared about this.
Tl;Dr halfchan /pol/ and halfchan in general are summoning an ancient egyptian God with meme magic (pic related)
Threads related:
http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/68147313#p68147313
http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/68147313#p68147313
How the fuck can Communism fight this? Should we ramp up our memes?
Socialism of the 21st century
hey, /leftypol/
wanted to get your opinion on the situation of the South American left
the pink tide,starting brilliantly, seems to have stumbled upon major problems both economical and social
does this, maybe, show what Zizek was talking about? we don't need to act for now, only think? forget the bold uprisings and understand our faults?
Britain is set to have a referendum on EU membership in a few months. Most people here should agree that:
>European integration is not a bad thing, and in the long term we should seek to move away from the nation-state model
>The European Union, however, is an undemocratic institution meant to bolster capitalist power
There are leftist justifications for both staying and leaving. The former, the perspective of people like Yanis Varoufakis, is that countries should stay in the EU in an effort to change it and to extend liberal democratic rights as much as possible while recognizing the ultimate goal of socialism. The other states that the EU cannot be turned into anything other than an undemocratic bourgeois institution, and that the project should be dissolved and integration happen on different terms. What are your thoughts?
So the forums are open: http://www.diem25.org/forum/
What do you guys think? Can it ever be more than a vague alliances of assorted reformist leftists?
Is the nuclear family something that should be of the past? If you're born as a child in fucked up family, your whole future will be affected. When children are taken care of by small communities, no single parent will force their way of raising kids down their throats. And if a parent misbehaves, they could be forbidden to raise the child.
How is this idea? Is there a reason why the Kibbutz failed?
Funny thread?
So god's stück in SJW socialist Denmark
The address Aabenraa sygehus, 100% seriøs get me the fuck out of here
How do you guys feel about the Ukrainian Insurgent Army?
/leftypol/ Reads: Week 2
Continuation of >>575805
A day later than I had expected getting this out, but I'm on vacation right now and am a bit limited on my time here.
Welcome back you weary workers of the written word. This is the /leftypol/ reading group.
This edition:
Keynesian Theory: self-admitted life support for the capitalist system
This week’s flag is still Garl Margs, and the book is ‘’Marxian Economics through the book Contending Economic Theories: Neoclassical, Keynesian, and Marxian’’ by Richard Wolff. It's a bit on the lengthy side, and I know a number of people have been going through hell trying to keep up. This week we're going to give you a bit of relief to catch up: we'll only be covering Chapter 3 on Keynesian economics this week (26 pages) as a set-in-stone expectation. In addition, to those who have time, I'll also skip ahead a bit and suggest covering Chapter 5 on Late Neoclassical theory (57 pages) so as to achieve a more fluent understanding of the modern applications of neoclassical theory while the basics are still fresh in memory (after skimming it a bit, you won't need to have covered Marxist theory to understand this section).
Here’s the link to a shared doc of the pdf so that annotations can be a bit more directly interactive between contributors:
(if you skip login, you can view and edit anonymously)
For those who don’t want to use this but still want to contribute, feel free to still submit annotation to pdfs as you like through the thread itself: I will be merging it all before we move on to the next book anyways.
Come next week (week 3), we'll be devoting the whole week to Chapter 4 on Marxian theory due to its standalone length (118 pages). Also, I need your guys' input as to what we plan to do in week 4: do we continue covering the last two chapters (6 and 7) of this book, or do we move on to a new topic?
As always, here is the poll for the flag order:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/328VDCZ
The next two topics I’ve personally decided will be anarchism and socialism respectively in order to give background for later material. However, after that, we’ll cover thing in the order that you guys vote on.
Along with the static reading list posted in the PDF file, here also a google doc for a continuously updated version that you are free to add suggestions/revisions to as you feel is right.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17QzZD613I_Tij-IEfL7gStzs3qgbie6T42MMlgWMUyo/edit?usp=sharing
Can we talk about hacking? What's the politics like in the hacking community?
I saw a bit of this good hacker/bad hacker schtick where the good hacker finds security holes in websites like facebook or google and reports that to them. I'm interested in if many hackers actually believe this kind of thing.
A concert movement
thoughts on organizing and trying to build an actually revolutionary movement
>you will be called sexist when you criticize president clinton for invading venezuela
Teach everyone something interesting you learned recently
ITT: Leftist related things you learned recently
What have you done to expose the Irish threat today?
Lenin: an alternative.
http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/anarchism/articles/lenin_alternative.html
>Socialism from Below?
>The SWP claim that they stand for "socialism from below." It argues that it "believes that the power to win real change comes from below. . .We offer a vision of a society based on workers' control, a society with real democracy. Socialism requires the mass activity of millions of people."
>Anarchists agree with this vision. Indeed, we have used the symbolism of "from below" much longer than Marxists. Proudhon in 1848 said he was a "revolutionary from below" and that every "serious and lasting Revolution" was "made from below, by the people." Bakunin argued that "future social organisation must be made solely from the bottom upwards, by the free association or federation of workers, firstly in their unions, then in the communes, regions, nations and finally in a great federation, international and universal."
>If Bolshevism is "socialism from below" then why do anarchists reject it? Simply because its rhetoric hides an authoritarian reality. Marx dismissed Bakunin's vision of revolution being "the free organisation of the working masses from below upwards" as "nonsense." Lenin argued in 1905 that "the principle, 'only from below' is an anarchist principle." He stressed that Marxism stood for "From above as well as from below" and that "renunciation of pressure also from above is anarchism." As the history of the Russian Revolution proved, this signifies the destruction of workers' power, democracy and freedom by party rule.
>Before the October Revolution, Lenin saw "workers' control" purely in terms of "universal, all-embracing workers' control over the capitalists." He did not see it in terms of workers' management of production itself (i.e. the abolition of wage labour) via federations of factory committees. Anarchists and the workers' factory committees did. On three occasions in the first months of Soviet power, the factory committees sought to bring their model into being. At each point the party leadership overruled them. The Bolshevik alternative was to vest both managerial and control powers in organs of the state which were subordinate to the central authorities, and formed by them. Workers' management from below was not an option. Lenin himself quickly supported "one-man management" invested with "dictatorial powers" after "control over the capitalists" failed in early 1918. By 1920, Trotsky was advocating the "militarisation of labour" and implemented his ideas on the railway workers.
Are you guys ready to give up the ghost of Marx and join the real movement forward?
Marx had his biggest mistake in his inability to draw a distinction between state and worker power.
>ftw when too much theory,history, general philosophy, economics, science to read and not enough time
Omegle Class Conciousness
Bring socialism to the masses without even leaving the house comrades.
I tried anyway.
CONVERT AN ANON
Libertarian here realizing the moral bankruptcy of my beliefs. I'm slowly drifting to the far left. What books would /leftypol/ recommend to me?
>tfw even if full Communism was achieved tomorrow I would still have no gf and die a virgin
Why even live to see the revolution comrades.
Guys, let's be serious for a moment. You have utterly, UTTERLY lost the internet war against the far right, and it seems that you will lose the IRL war against them very soon as well. What will most of you do? Will the whites among you defect and forget any leftist sympathies you once had? Everyone needs to save their own skin.
It's almost comical how much the far right are winning, EVERYWHERE. Even websites that are supposed to be bastions for the left are SWAMPED with white nationalists and others on the far right, within the comments and doxxing on a weekly basis.
Do ANY of you have a game plan?
This isn't supposed to inflame, as I'm genuinely worried that the left have absolutely no weapons to combat the fiercest revival of the far right since WW2.
I don't even see anyone from the left bringing up arguments anymore, they've just vanished entirely.
Reverse McCarthyism
/leftypol/ suffers from Reverse McCarthyism. What is Reverse McCarthyism? It is when communists accuse other communists of being liberals/feminists/idpol/<insert outgroup name>.
Porky Using Animer to Sell Shit
Japanese McDonald's is using anime to promote wage slavery now. It seems our efforts to detourn animu are being outmatched.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e-zAljAgqs
Wat are some other porky anime promos or propgandas?
Milton Friedman
I want your Thoughts on Milton Friedman and why he was wrong?
Also as a bonus have a video by Chomsky on why FRIEDman was wrong:
Daily reminder that mass culture is an evil that must be fought and regulated
Look at this shit, every segment of the entertainment industry that is considered a national disgrace has produces its own vocal Trump supporter.
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Popular_(esquerda_crist%C3%A3)
Christian Maoists
This is what happens when you're high on ideology
Well, well. Guess who's back?
And what candidate is he supporting? I wonder.
I have some serious questions about spooks in regards to a few things.
OUR COMING IS NEARING, BUCKOS
>A lot of facebook leftist meme pages are more like leftypol now
>Even when you're in a decent page you'll still eventually come across some brocialists in the comments screaming at you for your "idpol."
The classic, revolutionary class-based left is coming back. Buckos on suicide watch.
>majority of people in a country don't understand or misunderstand socialist ideas because of capitalist propaganda and corporate controlled information distribution
>majority of people don't support socialist parties and if they do it's only because of support for socdem policies and hatred for the right
>"see? democracy doesn't work for establishing socialism we need vangaurd and a violent revolution"
>suprised when it devolves into military dictatorship
golly what if socialism was attempted when the large majority of people agreed with it and actively participated? I wonder if that would work better
What's his name again?
Bernie Sanders rejects invitation to speak at the AIPAC conference
So Bernie rejected his invitation and wont be attending AIPAC.. he actually did it the absolute
MADMAN
Sources/Info:
https://www.change.org/p/bernie-sanders-tell-bernie-sanders-to-reject-aipac-s-invitation/u/15800918
Many petitioned him not to go (including Roger Waters), though it looked unlikely, as he is ethically Jewish, and because every other candidate is going to be speaking there, also kind of ballsy considering AIPACs history.
So are they going to start targeting Sanders and attempt call him anti-Semitic? Or maybe try to smear him? AIPAC loves to destroy people's careers if they don't express full support for Israel… is Commissar Sanders going to be ok?
How do we even recover from this? There is no way we can win the meme war anymore and shit like this faggot creates a whole new generation poltards.
ITT: shitpeopleysays
>democratic socialism is still socialism :^)
>hitler was a socialist
>fascism is socialism
What's the sauce on this, and how can we turn it into a lefty meme?
Is federalization of europe a good thing?
There are many ex-communists in the european parliament but I also feel like it could turn into a 1984 fascist parody.
ITT we post famous individuals that we think are/were secretly commie bandits.
for me it's gotta be bob dylan. he was definitely a red.
>sings constantly about the futility of man to dominate itself
>lyrics often suggest revolutions are destined to happen
>working class as fuck
>looking at his acquaintances he constantly borders on being friends with 100% red people like guthrie and ochs
>almost involved with communist orgs in the USA (http://archive.is/wP4KW)
>CIA almost tried to use dylan's popularity and rhetoric in a COINTELPRO-type tactic to make working people go against communism (https://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1975MOSCOW00360_b.html)
Jacobin article on PKK
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/03/pkk-ocalan-kurdistan-isis-murray-bookchin/
the butthurt on fb is great
https://www.facebook.com/jacobinmag/posts/1296985433661488?hc_location=ufi
>A Marxist publication named after a bourgeoisie dictatorship that went on a murderous rampage published a hack piece attacking anarchism in practice? This is exactly the kind of Marxist dribble Bakunin and Malatesta warned us against, and the type of bourgeois intellectual author they denounced. Let me break it down for you keyboard revolutionaries. There are only three sources of authority that should be recognized in this world, intelligence, integrity and initiative. Apo Ocalan has all three. Hack de Jong has none. We follow leaders who distinguish themselves by both their thoughts and their actions, not cowards who sit safely in their studies hoping to crown themselves one day, like Karl Marx.
kekek
feel thread
>be baker
>when I start work around 1st grade I start reading into communism, since I was a poorfag and got the first feel of class consciousness
>be a huge idealist, read more into it
>join marxist-leninist party the next year
>they teach me a lot, mandatory reading and all that so they keep their party members read up
>barely keep up studies for party and studies for school
>finish school barely
>gf moves in with me because parents are treating her like a child
>dealing with my problems and trying to help her deal with her deeply seeded confidence problems
>her parents aren't making it easy by trying to ship her to a mental ward. mental wards are horribly shitty in my country
>lost my job two times because of her parents chimping out, ie had to leave work so I could pull some strings and shield her from their machinations
>after the revolution I just want to bake bread and settle down
>bros from party laugh or scoff at me, tell me to stop being a life stylist
>tfw they are right
BERNIE SANDERS OPENLY RECOGNIZES CLASS WARFARE
ITS FUCKING HAPPENING
From "political revolution" to "peoples revolution"
From "rigged economy" to "class warfare"
Where will the slick entryist go next? Find out next episode!
Reminder that if you aren't in the red field, you're all what's wrong with the left.
Honestly, when are we going to deal with the Mautists & IdPolers in general?
It's starting to build up momentum.
>M-maybe if I keep telling myself over 150% of the board's population are anarchists the statists will go away!
LETS READ OCALAN!
I'm going to bed right after making this post.
But in light of the recent discourse surrounding Rojava, the PYD and PKK and Apo, I think it is only fair we take the time to understand Democratic Confederalism straight from the horse's mouth! And what better way to do that than to read "Democratic Confederalism" by Abdullah Ocalan.
I'm also hunting for "Manifesto for a Democratic Civilization, Volume 1", if you can get your hands on it it would be much appreciated!
Here's Azusa as well, night all!
Esp-/leftypol/
A ver camaradas, tengo una duda muy importante.
Estoy a punto de entrar en el PCPE, pero me gustaria saber que es lo que opinais vosotros sobre los distintos partidos comunistas del Estado español, y a ver si llegamos a un consenso.
Hilo español en general también.
CLINTON DID 9/11
The Clintons administration loosened the flight restrictions for passenger screening and flight training in the years leading up to 9/11.
Because of work they did to "promote international travel and aviation" America had the loosest flying restrictions and was the most open to terrorist attacks of any developed nation on earth.
Socialist Writing
Can anyone suggest some socialist writing for someone beginning to warm to the idea of radical left? Books or authors will do
Tech thread
Any linux users here? Microsoft is really pushing Windows 10, are they getting into data collection too? I don't want my data to be collected, what's a good linux os to start with?
Can someone shop a good version of this picture so I can actually get it printed on a tshirt?
I feel like I'm experiencing both sides of capitalism. I lost my dream job recently due to faults with the companies management and all I feel is fucking suffering. I don't want to work for an enterprise and make some bougie rich.
Has anyone else felt this feeling where capitalist life just doesn't seem to be in their favour?
Also, working class alienation thread?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCg78onTG1Y
Is Kay Burley the biggest autist in journalism? Even more Autismal than Yiannopolis?
Anyway, we should lynch her
The more alienated a person is, the more likely she is of developing radical ideas. Someone free of family laces, who is lost in urban anonymity, working on an highly technocratized and impersonal job will, due to his condition of detachment, have a lot of intellectual agency, because he is free from communal ties that could regulate those.
On the other hand, a person living in a small town where everybody knows everybody, working on a peopleoriented job and close to his family is more likely to be conservative, with any "unorthodox" idea he has being quickly filtered away by fear of social consequences.
Does this mean that alienation is necessary for social progress? Could the "communization" of all spaces end up creating more and more conductors of Ideology, from which people won't be able to escape?
How the fuck are there even supporters of the Khmer Rouge when you take into account shit like pic related?
>inb4 m-muh imperialist lies!
The only lie the West spreads about the Khmer Rouge is that they weren't in bed with them. They even tried to downplay the extent of the genocide while the Cambodian people were saying otherwise.
I hate Khmer Rouge-supporting opportunists so god damn much.
So China's banks are now pulling pretty much the same bullshit that US banks were pulling just before the 2008 crash. Repackaging debt so it looks less risky than it actually is, getting much of their profit by just moving around debt instruments between banks.
TL;DR The chinese financial sector is getting riskier and more inter-connected.
All while China is letting go literally millions
of workers to try and fix the supply gut they've created. It's only a matter of time before a large enough group of people are incapable of paying their debts, and the whole thing comes crumbling down.
http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2016/03/17/bank-ipos-expose-dark-arts-of-chinese-finance/
Doom Sanders
It's time to start making these now. This is a Doom Rubio I just found btw
what will you do about the environment /leftypol/ ?
how are there no memes of bernie sanders as bane holy shit
I know what an entryist is but what is a slick entryist? And why do you keep calling people "buckos"?
Feel free to sage, I'm just curious
Does the younger generation have any radical potential at all?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUzquEya6Lw
hey /leftypol/.
so i just watched that video, and chomsky basically says that capitalism proper is so shit and unsustainable that it cannot exist without state control mediating it. however, he doesn't elaborate too much on it, although i can guess some rationale as to why. could you give me some more concrete reasons why, perhaps link to some lecture on it?
pic not really related.
Maoist Rebel Rap Video *Cringe Warning*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzSMRXjJsLc
MaoistRebelNews aka Jason Unruhe aka Jason Caden is making a "rap video."
**cringe**
Jason is also a known Eminem and ICP fan. He's suicidal/homicidal, he takes ICP's songs about cutting people up seriously. If he was 18 years younger he would be a school shooter.
thoughts on khrushchev ?
hey /leftypol/.
anyone got that webm where d wolff says economics in education are now divided in business and economic schools and that the former is just masturbation over neoclassical econ that doesn't teach anyone anything?
pic not really related.
The Empire Files: Understanding Marxism and Socialism with Richard Wolff
You're in for a treat this week anons!
Extra Richard D Wolff to enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yEiv1fIhyE
>Despite a concerted effort by the U.S. Empire to snuff out the ideology, a 2016 poll found young Americans have a much more favorable view of socialism than capitalism.
>Though he died 133 years ago, the analysis put forward by one of the world’s most influential thinkers, Karl Marx, remains extremely relevant today. The Empire’s recent rigged presidential election has been disrupted by the support of an avowed socialist, Bernie Sanders, by millions of voters.
>To find out why Marx’s popularity has stood the test of time, Abby Martin interviews renowned Marxist economist Richard Wolff, Professor Emeritus of Economics at UMass - Amherst, and visiting professor at the New School in New York
>Prof. Wolff gives an introduction suited for both beginners and seasoned Marxists, with comprehensive explanations of key tenets of Marxism including dialectical and historical materialism, surplus value, crises of overproduction, capitalism's internal contradictions, and more.
Enjoy!
Any ausfags here? What leftist groups aren't shit or obsessed with identity politics? Who should I vote for in the next election?
Clinton-backed Honduras assassinates another indigenous activist
>Two weeks ago, a Honduran death squad murdered Berta Cáceres, a prominent Lenca and environmental activist. Her murder continues to receive a good deal of attention in the United States, since she was killed by the coup-regime that Hillary Clinton, as secretary of state, supported and legitimized. Cáceres herself had, before her murder, directly criticized Clinton. Responding to her death, the Clinton campaign denied that Clinton had any responsibility: “simply nonsense,” said a Clinton spokesperson, who described the candidate’s role in Honduras as “active diplomacy.”
>Yesterday, March 15, as Clinton racked up a series of primary wins, Nelson Noé García Laínez, another indigenous member of Cáceres’s organization, the Consejo Cívico de Organizaciones Populares e Indígenas de Honduras (COPINH), was executed, gunned down by two men in his home. García was 39 years old and was shot four times in the face. Earlier that day, government security forces violently expelled 150 families from a land occupation in northern Honduras that García led. The Honduran government said the eviction was “peaceful.”
http://www.thenation.com/article/as-the-united-states-votes-honduras-kills/
Communist Christian Thread
I want to make a thread to reach out to my comrades the communist christians and ask them to explain their views, and how they arrived to the conclusion that this was the best way to go.
I want to do this for a few reasons.
Firstly, I don't believe in any religion (including humanism, which is a religion as far as I am concerned). But I have always found religious literature interesting. I also think it's good to foster well meant relations between comrades.
Thirdly, I'd like to know how one would go about convincing your regular neo-liberal christian about accepting communism through their faith.
Also, if you're interested in having a discussion with a boring irreligious person like me about your views then I'm interested in holding one so that it could be uploaded to youtube. Maybe some conservative christian will see it and it may start them on their ideological adventure to communism. I promise it wouldn't be a debate or some sort of challenge, I'm just genuinely interested in hearing your views.
Also, any recommendations on communist christian literature?
Socialism forum game
http://z13.invisionfree.com/eRegime/index.php?c=817337
>The year is 2017, and a world wide financial recession, the likes of which have not been seen since the 1930's, has sent the old order careening into chaos. Across Europe, neo-fascist and authoritarian demagogues have used the crisis to bring themselves to power. However, in Britain and America, history has taken a fundamentally different turn, and now, a hundred years after the October Revolution, Socialism is again a force in the world.
>This is a forum based sand box role playing game. In it, players may choose from a list of characters or create their own. All of the characters are members of various factions competing for authority in this new world. The main action of the game will involve players debating with other players over how to solve problems and what policies to enact. Players also will send actions (things a player wishes to attempt, i.e recruit soldiers, organise a revolt, send out tax collectors, fund allies) to the GM (Robespierre). Action success will be determined via a dice roll.
Incorporating Leftist Philosophy and Values Into Media
I am a video production student and I want to help people understand or at least make them more open to leftism, how could I go about making a film that champions leftist values in a "fun" way?
Happy St. Patrick's day, /leftypol/!
help me
>this whole thread
why do people act like this
Brockered Republican Convention
It seems to me now how it's clearly becoming more likely that the Republicans will default to a Brokered Convention with the heavily divided amount of delegates each candidate has. Seems that the GOP is gonna become an easier beating for Bernie if this process will happen. Question is, Who will the Republicans nominate beside Cruz, Trump, or even Kasich?
Arthur Schopenhauer
Was he the anti-Stirner?
>Accepted eastern doctrines that we were not unique at all.
>Believed we were all dominated by will I.E., deterministic forces of the universe.
>Believed human desire was futile, illogical, directionless, and, by extension, so was all human action in the world. He wrote "Man can indeed do what he wants, but he cannot will what he wants.
>ego causes suffering
>contemplation allows us to escape suffering, instead of acting on ego
>the only thing worth anything is compassion IE universal morality
>Supported not only the state, but monarchy
Literally there about 2 things these guys agree upon:
1. Hegel sucks
2. Humanism sucks
What do you think of him?
is market socialism (cooperatively owned businesses competing) dialectical as a step between a full worker-owned economy (communism)? does market socialism dialecticaly wither away into communism? what are the contradictions under market socialism? is there anything similar to class struggle (coop struggle?) under market socialism that will alienate workers?
The #HulkvGawk Verdict
Seemingly every American liberal and conservative on Twatter, /pol/, /v/, the various Gamergay forums, and probably Reddit has championed this overrated blow by the bourgeoisie to its own press freedom.
Of course, nobody can or should sympathize with Gawker for what they did to be challenged in court or what they said during the trial including a remark that implied they would publish CP, but it does seem to open the floodgates for even more excuses by Porky to retaliate when someone digs up dirt. Who wants to bet Trump is the first to use whatever "Borrea rule" the courts design after Gawker decides to appeal?
i'm from pol and i come here in peace, i've been lurking for some weeks and i want to know well what this concepts mean
>spook
>historical materialism
>tankie
Hello from /x/
By the fall of 2016 there will be a point where ==Everything Will Change==
There will begin to be certain things happening with the infrastructure of our society because there is a desire for changes in different sociological aspects which will become more apparent over a short time.
There will, of course, be an economic downturn around this time and it will create a different mindset about the idea of economics, that will begin with a very strong upsurge from a large contingent in our society. We will begin to to finally let it be ok to explore different ways to begin arranging our economic system, but one of the first things that will happen, after this particular contraction, will be the complete revamping of our taxation system
So that by 2020 we will find that many things in our economic system that no longer work for us will begin to fall away and that new systems will begin to be discussed and be put in place in the beginning of that time frame,
Many many more things will be revealed in this time but I won't mention them because they are unbelievable. Screenshot this and get ready.
Robespierre did nothing wrong
Has their ever been a more fascinating man in history who has fought for the rights of the oppressed with such a puritanical zeal.
Idea For Plan C
So let's say Bernie Sanders does not get the nomination, or run (with any hope) anywhere else, and the momentum for his ideas withers. The people who think you can't fix the system from the inside (who I'm sure are wrong but I'm willing to play along with for long enough to bring about socialism faster if less painlessly) will want to stage a revolution somewhere. You know what I think the ripest grounds for a socialist revolution are?
Puerto Rico.
>no passport needed
>fucked over for years by both the cia and the fbi
>fucked over by the united states as a whole in some ways
>fucking eugenics committed in our country that nobody wants to talk about
>largest party is the "populist democratic party" and styles itself as the worker's party
>second largest party (much smaller) is the classcuck party
>the third parties in order of size are PRIP, the Working People's Party, the Union Sovereignist Movement (which nobody knows what the fuck they want but it's some increased level of independence from the US, just not entire independence from what anyone can tell) and the local green party
>old majority party was elected on basis of statehood but other than that was the classcuck laissez-faire party. its voters largely only cared about statehood until the last governor exposed the party by trying to do ridiculous shit like approve the building of a giant gasoline transport tube cutting across thousands of acres of rainforest and approve a small business proposal that would have created like 20 jobs to export iguanas from the rainforest (neither of these went through), he lost in a landslide to the new guy
>new guy's party is sound policy-wise but as corrupt as the last and the new guy hasn't been able to get much done because the situation in general is hopeless and he's incompetent. some higher up decided not to give my home city funding to repair a highway that gets illegal cargo taken down it and some pretty solid rumors started floating around about it being because the mayor belongs to the classcuck party (no but he's like a fucking amazing mayor outside of that, he personally funds all this shit for the city and takes kids to europe and shit)
>people right now are super fucking pissed off at PNP and less pissed off at PPD and more wary of government corruption than ever
In general it's just ripe. I can go over some more things if you need but I gotta blast so.
Welp, that's it, comrades
We told the triggering dudebro he couldn't get 100 retweets and now the Hollywood glitterati are endorsing Checkers in his quest to destroy all leftism (aka intersectional identity politics) forever.
Look at this shit. https://twitter.com/Tumblrisms/status/711009722741231617
Argument Comics IRL
I've shared something like this before but..
You know that "basically every argument comic ever" meme, the one where it shows the absurdity of basically every argument comic where someone stays fairly reasonable and presents their argument and then a strawman of the opposing position spergs out? There kind of is a little truth to those comics:
This was an interesting discussion I had recently with a fairly intelligent Trump supporter :D
>Some retards talking about "marxism" in a gaming related event
>being this autistic and hamfisted
I cant even say anything about this, but i know for sure that this isn't exactly going to help us.
Five points for improving the board
Just some things /leftypol/ needs to learn.
1. The definition of capitalism
Capitalism is a system based on private ownership of production, markets, and wage-labor. It is logically absurd to refer to 20th century Stalinist countries as 'state capitalist.'
2. The definition of socialism
For starters, it means the same the thing as communism. In the 19th century the two terms were used interchangeably, a different word for a different context. The two terms were separated for political purposes by socdems and Lenin during the Russian Revolution.
3. Soviet society should be accepted as socialist
The point is this, that state ownership was always conceived of as one of the primary means to go beyond capitalism. This was also conceived of as being a radically democratic state of course, but many of the same ideas were nonetheless practiced in the 20th century. Most people recognize these similarities, and it's not helping our cause to denounce Soviet society as socialist because of it's totalitarian nature.
You may find this line of reasoning unconvincing, but unlike the case of capitalism I can't conclusively prove a definition because in this case it's never been set in stone. Socialism has always been more of a concept than a single mode of production.
4. Market socialism is not an oxymoron
To people using Marx's definition it wouldn't be one, but the idea of markets being included in socialism is as old as socialism itself.
5. A decentralized-planned economy is completely unfeasible
In a system of direct allocation organized horizontally all the various economic agents would have to constantly keep tabs on all the actions of all other units at all times to make sure things are running smoothly. This is a complete rejection of rational economic behavior, it is unthinkable that an industrialized economy could work at all without information being aggregated into a single planning body or market relations in some form. Local communities simply rely too much on a larger economic system for bottom-up or stateless planning to work in a non-agrarian society.
This is one of my more controversial points seeing as how it would recall for a drastic rethinking of traditional anarchist-socialism, but it is absolutely true. Indeed, it's been widely accepted for decades. This board just hasn't figured it out yet partly due to nostalgia for the old left and an ignorance of theory.
What would the world be like today of the USSR managed to conquer the rest of Europe?
In the absence of a foreign capitalist threat on their doorstep would there be pressure for democratic reform in a socialist Europe?
Does Rojava support Capitalist Private Property?
I've been seeing some people, i'm not sure if its one person or a few, spreading this notion around that the Federation of Northern Syria, or Rojava, guarantees Private Property, in the Capitalist Sense, as a human right.
So I'd like to clear this up very quickly.
>"Private Property" is indeed guaranteed. I use the quotation marks because the conception of Private Property according to the Rojava Constitution is very different to the Capitalist' sense, and is more similar to Personal Property.
>Property is based on "ownership by use", and is subject to democratic oversight by the local council. http://peaceinkurdistancampaign.com/2015/02/06/rojava-the-formation-of-an-economic-alternative-private-property-in-the-service-of-all/
>Around 3 quarters of Property in Rojava has been Collectivized, the Private Sector is fairly small in comparison, comprising less than a fifth of the economy. http://sange.fi/kvsolidaarisuustyo/wp-content/uploads/Dr.-Ahmad-Yousef-Social-economy-in-Rojava.pdf
Hopefully this clears things up, there is no absentee claims, it is not upheld as an absolute, inalienable right, it is not private dominion. Cuba has a very similar policy as well where-in small businesses are allowed to hire up to 4 people, and must be licensed by the government.
Here's Azusa :D
Should We Just Pack Our Bags and go to Rojava?
I've pretty much lost my faith in western leftists. Most of them just bicker with one another and are so fucking fixated on retarded idpol. In the USA there are well armed rightist private armies ready to squash us at any moment while paramilitary left wing groups are non-existent. The YPG/J seem to be a great alternative to the autism of the New Left. And I like how they actually focus on genuine women's liberation in a society where women face real oppression and not the BS language policing that we see in western countries. Why can't we have an organization like the YPG in the US?
WE URGE UNHRC TO INVESTIGATE ALLEGED MASS KILLING OF KURDS IN TURKEY
Hey /leftypol/ would you please take the time and sign this petition?
#SaveTheKurds
#JusticeForKurds
Autism raps - it's time to listen
It seems like Jason-Sama is gonna throw down some rhymes against imperialism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzSMRXjJsLc
How little self-awareness can a human being have? This is going to be the most retarded thing this idiot ever did.
Where to start?
What is a good reading list for freshmeat here?
Is pic related a good introduction to Leftist ideals?
Response to third worldism.
Response to third worldism.
What are some responses from first world proletariat to third world proletariat?
What is true and what is false?
Does it have validity?
Discuss.
convince a fascist like me that leftism is the truth
Was anarchist Spain Dotp?
Crashing this board
From /pol/
we should all embrace our new lord and saviour
banned on /pol/ for meme
Trump is a shill and if i got banned for exposing it, hence i reason it must be true.