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Moderation Thread

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/leftypol/ reading list




^^^Absolute beginner material^^^

More Marx and Engels:




Other Selected Marxists


Classical Works Recommended To High-Ranking Cadres


Many important books can be found on libgen:


Libcom is run by a liberal retard, but you can search it for some good books/documents:


Other links:


Various assortment of historical and biographical works.


Original post content:

>Honeybees make decisions collectively–and democratically. Every year, faced with the life-or-death problem of choosing and traveling to a new home, honeybees stake everything on a process that includes collective fact-finding, vigorous debate, and consensus building. In fact, as world-renowned animal behaviorist Thomas Seeley reveals, these incredible insects have much to teach us when it comes to collective wisdom and effective decision making. A remarkable and richly illustrated account of scientific discovery, Honeybee Democracy brings together, for the first time, decades of Seeley's pioneering research to tell the amazing story of house hunting and democratic debate among the honeybees.

>In the late spring and early summer, as a bee colony becomes overcrowded, a third of the hive stays behind and rears a new queen, while a swarm of thousands departs with the old queen to produce a daughter colony. Seeley describes how these bees evaluate potential nest sites, advertise their discoveries to one another, engage in open deliberation, choose a final site, and navigate together–as a swirling cloud of bees–to their new home. Seeley investigates how evolution has honed the decision-making methods of honeybees over millions of years, and he considers similarities between the ways that bee swarms and primate brains process information. He concludes that what works well for bees can also work well for people: any decision-making group should consist of individuals with shared interests and mutual respect, a leader's influence should be minimized, debate should be relied upon, diverse solutions should be sought, and the majority should be counted on for a dependable resolution.

>An impressive exploration of animal behavior, Honeybee Democracy shows that decision-making groups, whether honeybee or human, can be smarter than even the smartest individuals in them.

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FAQ and Rules

Backup boards:



Other boards:












/leftypol/'s magazine:




>How can you call yourselves leftist politically incorrect?

/leftypol/ posters are allowed to voice opinions that offend liberals, SJWs, and so on. All sects on the left are allowed to post on /leftypol/, leading to plenty of fighting and shitflinging between leftists, which other forums might ban. However, this was only a minor consideration in the naming of /leftypol/. Since the concept is simply a leftist version of /pol/, the entire name of /pol/ was retained.

>I'm not a leftist can I post here?

Non-leftists can come here to ask questions. Board moderation here is more focused on maintaining a good board index, so non-leftists have to be on better behavior as OP than they do as participants in someone else's thread. If you aren't b8ing or shitposting, your thread is likely to stay up.

>Are you liberals? Are you SJWs? Do you like Clinton? Are you all Zionists???

No liberals here. We hate the Democrat party.

As for Israel, leftism is anti-Zionist. It is not anti-Jew. Unlike /pol/, /leftypol/ fully supports Palestinians, and doesn't think they're "mudslimes."

Pretending to be an SJW or Zionist will very likely get you banned.

>Why did you leave /pol/ and why does this board exist?

/leftypol/ exists to help the 8chan community focus on leftist topics without being slid or flooded to death.

>Do you support gun control?

While posters on /leftypol/ have varying stances on gun control (training requirements, mental health checks, etc.), they are overwhelmingly in favor of arming the proletariat.

>Do you support "national" socialism?





-post cuckshit, "commies BTFO," or any of that kind of shit

-post any porn depicting underage (including drawings)

-deny the problems of climate change or imperialism

-attempt to cloak reactionary politics in left-wing rhetoric (Strasserism, "Nazbol" Strasserism, National "Socialism," Zionism, "Die cis scum"/"Kill all white men" SJW shit)

-voice support for NATO intervention, or explicitly state that you support imperialism in any context

-incite specific acts of terrorism or similar acts (use your head, don't act like a fed)


-be respectful, ask questions, and know your place if you're a reactionary

-feel free to flame, shitpost, and be sectarian if you are a leftist (just keep it somewhat within reason)

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/leftytrash/: Once More

ITT: movies, anime, music, feels, e-celebs, internet drama, fetishes, shitposting, etc.

This is a voluntary thread that users can choose to post in, if… I forgot the rest of whatever the old OP was. Honestly, I just wanted to bring this old thread back.

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Leftybritpol - It's the end of the world as we know it edition

So here we are, days away from the vote on May's deal: it won't pass, but it seems nothing will. If another election happens then what? Labour has to fix this mess? We get a hung parliament with no real outcome? Seems Britain will be forever changed by this, these are the ends of days…

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Trotsky's support of the Gold Standard

https://books.google.com/books?id=1O63BAAAQBAJ&pg=PA128&lpg=PA128&dq=trotsky+gold+standard&source=bl&ots=F8MJ7Nv-L4&sig=MsErwNhVu1R_99ew1mzAY--mURg&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj4r5e96pffAhUzOn0KHfqCB0wQ6AEwBXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=trotsky gold standard&f=false

Trotsky wanted the Gold Standard until Communism is reached.

Was he right or wrong? IIRC the reason that the USSR fell was because they had their currency tied to the oil, not the massive deficit spending that Reagan did.

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Medieval Iceland

So what does /leftypol/ think about that place at that time? According to ancaps it's proof their system could work, that there could be a peaceful and prosperous society without government intervention.

Has any Marxist historian ever analyzed it?

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i just found it over the internet while typing the jew cries out in pain as he strikes you. how true is the statement?

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I really want to read communist literature

But im a distracted fuck with ADHD and i cant take my medication coz of the side effects

can someone else with adhd give me some advice as to how they manage to plowthrough and read books

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Marxism and K-Pop

How can I reconcile my love for K-pop with Marxism?

Am I betraying Marxism by listening to K-pop??

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Gilets jaunes / Yellow vests general

This time with a French OP. Can we get a cycling thread for as long as the crisis is ongoing?

Also as a Frenchman, I can probably answer any questions you guys might have.

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Can someone please explain to me how leadership works in the DPRK

So fucking confused on how this shit works

Like legit how the fuck does it work someone plz help me on this one

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Thread for asking questions that don't deserve their own thread

ITT: ask questions you think don't deserve their own thread, or are simple to the point they don't fit the character limit for thread creation.

This thread can be used by both leftists and non-leftists.

Contributions of individuals in reply to your questions do not represent the posters of this board as a whole.

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Had identity politics successfully destroyed the possibility of an actual leftist, worker based revolution in America?

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>tfw leftypol finally got over it's Stirner phase

>tfw realized he was the biggest meme but still wasted my time

Feels good

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Lets ignore that this isn't a real Bookchin quote for a moment. The Source is Parenti's recollection of an encounter with him. He never provides a direct quote, but describes, obviously unflatteringly, the general argument he felt Bookchin made, which the image creator decided to fabricate into this quote. Bookchin was criticizing Parenti neurotically using one example of soviet social progress as deflection for all criticism of the USSR. If it's a matter of people being fed, a sophist could point out how USAID is the largest aid organization in the world, and we would recognize this is an asinine defense of the United States. Not to mention how Parenti himself could be accused of callousness and malice by all the people he hurt when he was running apologism for the Bosnian Genocide. Bookchin's observation is really commendable. Parenti is a hack and his book on Julius Caesar is a literally worthless pop-polemic with no familiarity of the subject that is laughed at by every Roman historian.

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ITT: we post and discuss lefty podcasts.

Chapo Trap House - https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house

Black Wolf (Chapo premium episodes) - https://s221659.gridserver.com/blackwolf/rss/

Economic Update w/ Richard Wolff - https://www.democracyatwork.info/tags/economic_update

Revolutionary Left Radio - https://revolutionaryleftradio.libsyn.com/

Moderate Rebels w/ Max Blumenthal and Ben Norton - https://soundcloud.com/moderaterebels

Citations Needed w/ Nima Shirazi and Adam Johnson - https://soundcloud.com/citationsneeded

Unauthorized Disclosure w/ Rania Khalek and Kevin Gosztola - http://unauthorizeddisclosure.libsyn.com/

Dead Pundits Society - https://soundcloud.com/deadpundits

Zero Squared w/ Douglas Lain - http://zero-books.net/blogs/zero/category/zero-squared/

David Harvey's Anti-Capitalist Chronicles - https://www.democracyatwork.info/acc

Media Roots Radio w/ Abby Martin and Robbie Martin - https://soundcloud.com/media-roots

Proles of the Round Table - https://prolespod.libsyn.com/

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Thoughts on vietnam on it's variation of socialism through the years? I am currently in Vietnam and it seems like a pretty nice place compared to thailand. I'll tell ya right now the homeless population is very minimal I've seen around 2-5 homeless people in my 10 days touring saigon and going to mui ne beach. I would say the homeless population is comparable to japan which I have lived in for 3 years now. It also seems like the supermarkets are all coops? The government also seems to be giving out free phones.

The negatives I've seen are it is pretty dirty here and the traffic is absolutely insane and by that I mean the roads are a lawless land where anything goes. The roads don't really get congested though.

So overall I believe the state seems like it takes care its people very well, better than Thailand which I have visited. I am excited to go to Laos and cambodia to compare them as well although I'm sure I wouldn't understand it full as I am just a foreigner

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Discuss Maoism, democracy, news, what's pic related up to, theory in China.

Anyone here currently over there?

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Translation anon here. So I translate a lot of cyryllic language posts on leftybooru, however since not a lot of people visit that site and because Tomoko-Stalinstache poster suggested it, I'm making a translation thread.

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DOW/Market Watch Thread

monitoring the market, trends, fluctuations

original post:

How can a lefty exploit this to their advantage? Is it too soon to try? DOW down about 1000 points since Thursday.


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How can you have a good grasp on Marxist philosophy if you haven't studied Kant, Fichte, Hegel and Feuerbach?

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New militant Maoist bodybuilder movement in Berlin

I can't find any English information so far, but they are a Maoist group in the underground of Berlin. We all know Maoists can be batshit crazy but this group is a beacon of hope amidst a sea of the usual German socialist scene (anti-deutsche pro-zionist SJW anarkiddy smashie types LARPing as socialists).

They are Maoists, call for fighting against Zionists, tourists and Nazis, physically fight against Nazis and Zionists, are anti-gentrification, promote bodybuilding and learning hand-to-hand combat, intimidated a feminist leftist group during the May Day marches, have beef with Antifa, support the BDS movement, consist mostly of males with working class background, many of them are 2nd or 3rd generation migrants from Eastern Europe, the Balkans or the Middle East. They support movements like the Maoists in Peru or India and so on.

Their leader seems to be some underground rapper, he has a tattoo of an AK47 on his right biceps, does Muay Thai and works in a kindergarten.

The police were puzzled as to which group they had standing before them. I've heard a newscast where they said "Leftists aren't this muscular usually, so we thought they were football hooligans" lmao

Their name is "Jugendwiderstand". It's still a bit hard to find reliable information on them and as far as I'm aware there aren't any English sources.

Let's hope movements like these spread throughout Europe.

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Kieran Allen Quote

"Socialism is the ==good sense== of the working class as opposed to the common sense which is fed unto us by others…"

…at least something along the lines of what he said/implied…

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Former Vice President Joe Biden has a lot of baggage that would harm his chances with the progressive wing of the Democratic party. He has a long history of tough on crime legislation which includes weakening habeas corpus, expanding federal surveillance powers, backing expansions of the drug war, and longer sentences which have particularly effected the black community. He opposed bussing to desegregate schools and made comments that were pro-Confederate. On women’s issues he has a long history as a moderate regarding abortion and did not believe Anita Hill’s sexual harassment allegations.

Joe Biden’s real support has been among the banking industry. He worked to undermine bankruptcy protection for credit card customers. Notably his son, Hunter Biden, was awarded a six figure job with that credit card company.

Hunter Biden, Joe Biden’s living son, has frequently benefitted from the political power of his father. Hunter Biden formed a shady capital firm with John Kerry’s children, Rosemont. Hunter Biden also has foreign connections with Ukrainian energy firms. Hunter Biden was given a commission in the Navy Reserve while his father was Vice President. Hunter Biden needed two waivers, one for his age and another for a previous drug conviction. Hunter Biden was dismissed from the Navy Reserve after testing positive for cocaine.

He has other assorted issues. Joe Biden has suffered from two nearly fatal brain aneurysms and he would be 78 on inauguration day 2021. He has been dogged by allegations of plagiarism going all the way back to law school. Furthermore he opposed the raid that killed Osama bin Laden.






Jacobin Series

Opposed desegregation measures. Made other racially insensitive and pro-confederate statements.



Pro-war, pro-surveillance, and anti-Palestinian.



Lobbying for big business and big banks. Many hired his son, Hunter Biden, to work in sinecures.



1994 crime bill. “We do everything but hang people for jaywalking.” Pro-drug war.



Roe v. Wade “went too far”. Voted to confirm both Bork and Scalia to federal courts.



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/ita/ - terza edizione

>La crisi consiste appunto nel fatto che il vecchio muore e il nuovo non può nascere: in questo interregno si verificano i fenomeni morbosi più svariati.

Quest'uomo era un genio e un profeta.

Intanto, un ben noto ruffiano, procuratore di mignotte (sia femmine che maschi) d'alto bordo, ha annunciato di voler acquistare la testata de "l'Unità". Al tempo stesso, per un miserabile scazzo di natura corporativa, la "professione" giornalistica italiana organizza flesc' mobbese per le strade. Cosa di cui non si sarebbe reso conto nessuno se gli oziosi telegiornali che ci fanno sorbire tutti i giorni non avessero dato ampio spazio alla cosa. Ovviamente ben più importante dei massacri a Gaza e nello Yemen.

Più fenomeni morbosi di così!

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Are u ready to become a literal drone?

>The documents were provided under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) by The Black Vault founder, John Greenewald. According to a report by Newsweek, The Black Vault specializes in declassified government records. In one declassified letter (released as file C00021825) a redacted individual writes to a doctor (whose name has also been redacted) with advice about launching a laboratory for experiments in animal mind control. The writer of the letter is already an expert in the field, whose earlier work had culminated with the creation of six remote control dogs, which could be made to run, turn, and stop.

>“The specific aim of the research program was to examine the possibility of controlling the behavior of a dog, in an open field, by means of remotely triggering electrical stimulation of the brain,” the report states. “Such a system depends for its effectiveness on two properties of electrical stimulation delivered to certain deep-lying structures of the dog brain: the well-known reward effect, and a tendency for such stimulation to initiate and maintain locomotion in a direction which is accompanied by the continued delivery of stimulation.”

>Once the surgeons implanted the electrodes deep in the subject dog’s brain, a battery pack and stimulator was added to the harness, through which signals could be sent to the electrodes. “The stimulator had to be reliable and capable of sufficient voltage output to be usable in the face of expected impedance variation across individual dogs.”



pic unrelated

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Julian Assange: Sanders as president would not lead to peace



>The WikiLeaks founder took to Twitter this afternoon to lambaste Sanders’ socialist ideas. He noted, “Sanders as president would not lead to peace. Why? The bigger the domestic agenda the worse the foreign agenda. Political capital balance.”

>Assange is correct to criticize Sanders in this regard. Though a contained foreign policy is commendable, implementing expansive socialist policies domestically in the US would incentivize the state to maintain an even larger military presence abroad.

>The Federal Reserve can only keep printing away our purchasing power for so long before foreign nations dump the US dollar, and trillions of worthless Federal Reserve notes flood our shores.

While the right-libertarian article puts a moronic anything-the-government-does-is-socialism spin on it, Assange's tweet does make an interesting point that many Marxists-Leninists, Maoists and other revolutionary socialists also agree with. If a capitalist state is forced from within to make economic concessions (commonly known as "social democratic" reforms, which include increasing the minimum wage and nationalising some essential services like health insurance) to its own citizens, the state will invariably ramp up imperialism (cleverly disguised as "spreading democracy" or "war on terrorism" via manufactured consent) to make up the difference in wealth lost to the nation's capitalist class by exploiting and plundering weaker, non-nuclear-armed countries. In other words, as long as the state still runs under a capitalist economy (which results in dictatorship of capitalists as opposed to dictatorship of the proletariat), placating its citizens with reforms will only shift the brunt of exploitation from one group to another because imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism.

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Let us have a thread in which we share pictures which are useful for converting and despooking. Share




>pictures deconstructing misconceptions about leftism

>infographs with good sources

Do not share


>overly condescending pictures

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why were so many of the modernist artists reactionary?

I've been reading a lot of modernism recently and holy shit, like half of the modernist canon is fascist or otherwise very conservative (pic related is the biggest example, but also yeats, eliot (I was reading "The Waste Land" and it keeps referencing ancient writers and seemingly fetishising the "heritage" and "tradition" spooks), etc, who pound had close contact with. Im only really familiar with literature but I know many of the Italian futurists were self identified fascists too, even though their art was eventually declared as degenerate and banned lmao)

Is there a reason for this? I know there are reactionary artists in all time periods, but there is a saturation of them in the avant-garde of this period.

Is it something to do with a reaction the angst of the quickly industrialising society? (Is there any Marxist literature on said angst? I hear it talked about but have never read any of Marx's work that talks about this alienation, in regards of distance from artist to industrialising society)

Somewhat of a loaded OP, so sorry, but I'm drunk and think this is interesting. I'm not a student of this stuff or anything.

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Why can't Kim Jong Un just hire Cockshott and Cottrell instead of pulling this bullshit?:

>North Korea turns to Vietnam for economic ideas


Allende hired Beer to design socialist cybernetics in Chile and the US was so scared they sent in the CIA to overthrow them.

Cockshott went to Vietnam last year to promote his ideas, they basically told him to sod off.

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BurgerBowl 2020

How do you feel about the upcoming BurgerBowl? With the yellow vests and Corbyn seeing gains, do you think Burgerstan will take at least a slight Left turn?

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Novo fio brasileiro, já que o antigo entrou novamente em limite de bampes.



Camaradas, novamente peço para que procurem movimentos sociais de sua localidade, precisamos nos organizar, falar com as massas, não permita que nos limitemos ao debate na internet!


Não estamos sozinhos, a classe trabalhadora sempre foi maioria e cabe a nós coscientizá-la!

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>Go on r/socialism

>Right the word crazy

>Banned for Ableism

>Not allowed to appeal ban

I wouldn't be surprised if that entire board was some kind of advanced form of COINTELPRO designed to deliberately trick people into hating socialism.

What do you think about this pathetic excuse for a board?

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/dprk/ -- North Korea General

Thread for discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Disproving common western myths about North Korea.

Archive of first ~500 posts:


Subsequent archives:


Related archives:


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Er zitten blijkbaar nog altijd genoeg lagelanders op dit bord, dus tijd voor een nieuwe nederdraad! Bespreek naar hartenlust de manier waarop de zwijntjes onze mooie landen verkrachten, de Belgische lokale verkiezingen, geheimen uit jullie privéleven of wat dan ook.

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Mexico general.

I haven't found any compilation of communism in Mexico, and I have a brainlet tier knowledge of Mexican history, but some highlights in no particular order:

>President Lázaro Cárdenas nationalized oil, expropriating large landed estates and distributing land to small holders in collective holdings (ejidos), tried to secularize (and inculcate leftism) in public schools (but peasants where church-cucks and fought back so he had to desist), legalized communist parties, granted asylum to Trotsky (RIP in Picks), among other great leftist strides.

>World renowned artists, Frida Khalo and his husband Diego Rivera were both members of the communist party and up until this year, were the images that appeared in the highest (actively) circulating money note.

>Diego Rivera, along with Siqueiros and other muralists, painted murals of the struggle of the indigenous people and the oppression they suffered. Siqueiros, a hardcore ML, led a failed attempt to assasinate Trotksy.

>Mexico also has a long history of labor unions, although they were eventually coopted by the government and are still in cahoots and deeply corrupt. Of note is the CTM which started out as an honest and very progressive labor union, but eventually became an unofficial branch of the ruling party through which they effected influence.

>Subcomandante Marcos and the EZLN, troubled history with the Mexican government to assert themselves as independent. Very based. The indigenous leaders write some essays which are #woke as fuck.

>EPR (Ejercito Popular Revolucionario), lesser known than EZLN, are an armed revolutionary army which have carried out multiple terrorist attacks, one of which cost the Mexican state 100MM USD per day (unclear how many days) (according to the english wikipedia article). They have also fought against many armed forces and in one attack cost the mexican government 30 troops.

>AMLO (Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador), elect president by a huge landslide, accused of being a populist and of wanting to instill Venezuela """communism""" in Mexico. Largely leftist rhetoric. Insists on dismantling the "mafia of power" (aka the corrupt ruling party and the corrupt bourgs who sorround them, like top 5 billionaire Carlos Slim, but never mentions them by name). Wants to cut government spending dramatically. Part of this is cancelling a billion dollar project, already 30% underway and already over budget, for a new airport in Mexico City. This caused an uproar in the middle and upper classes and caused them to hold the most white and instagrammed protest in a long time. AMLO claims he will hold the "fourth revolution" and will transform the country. As usual, probably a socdem, probably will disappoint, probably will eventually betray the working class and suck the boujie dick.

>There have been communist parties, mostly defunct. There are many small anarchist and communist unions (not sure if any is on the ballot), with representation in basically all large cities. Some I have found: Partido Comunista de Mexico, Federación de Jóvenes Comunistas, Union Anarchosindicalista (UAS) with facebook pages for different states and/or cities. The UAS Monterrey Facebook page has some particularly based memes https://www.facebook.com/anarcosindicalistasmty/

Anyways, what are you chairos up to? Have you been to a socialist meeting?

Do you personally know any fascist? Do you personally know any other communist? Have you ever tried to agitate at your workplace? What do you think AMLO has in store for us?

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News 12/10

Macron announces state of “economic emergency” in France, promises small salary increases

As France still struggles to get a grip on the massive protests that have been raging through the country for weeks, President Emmanuel Macron has admitted that the country is in a state of “economic emergency.”“Today, we are forced to admit [it]. Today, I am announcing an economic emergency in our country,” Macron said, addressing the nation on Monday and calling for “support” for the French economy.


Spain: Rightist parties mull government role for fascist Vox in Andalusia

The speed with which the Popular Party (PP) and Citizens have moved towards incorporating the fascist Vox party into government in Andalusia is a warning to workers and youth across Spain and Europe.The December 2 regional election was yet another devastating blow to the bipartisan political system created during the transition to parliamentary democracy following the death of dictator Generalísimo Francisco Franco in 1975.


Theresa May Delays Critical Vote On Brexit Deal Amid Fears Of Its Defeat

British Prime Minister Theresa May has postponed a critical vote on the draft Brexit deal she negotiated with the European Union, conceding that it would not have enough support to pass Parliament if the vote were held Tuesday as scheduled.


US, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait Launch 'Ludicrous' Effort to 'Sabotage' Support for Key UN Climate Study

The COP24 talks in Katowice, Poland have led to a "diplomatic standoff" that has world leaders, climate activists, and experts alarmed as four "oil allies"—the United States, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait—have banded together to "water down" worldwide support for a landmark United Nations climate study released in October.


Germany's new CDU chief to review liberal Merkel migration policies

The new leader of Germany’s Christian Democrats (CDU) outlined plans on Sunday to change the party’s migrant policies before next year’s European election, signaling that she could break with her mentor Angela Merkel’s liberal approach.


Foreign Office investigates reports that state-funded body targeted Corbyn

The Foreign Office minister, Alan Duncan, has ordered an investigation into reports the government provided funding to a Scottish-based company meant to counter online Russian propaganda, which also spread unfavourable views about Jeremy Corbyn.


Is the US seeking new .Y..P..G.-free alternatives in northern Syria?

The US Special Representative for Syria Engagement, James Jeffrey, met with senior members of the Syrian Kurdish National Council (ENKS) on December 8, to discuss several possible scenarios for the war-torn country.The ENKS also fought against Bashar al Assad's regime, but their political campaign was later sabotaged by the .Y..P..G.


Argentine Unions Demand Gov't Bonus, Less Police Repression

Argentine social movements are protesting on Monday demanding that the country’s housing ministry follow through with providing 1.5 million homes and to improve another 2.5 million properties in disrepair throughout the country.


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Why are lefties so obsessed with space exploration? How about we just figure out a way to keep asteroids, meteors, and comets from impacting Earth? Asteroid mining is as far as I’d go, but terraforming and colonizing otherwise inhospitable and barren hellscapes beyond Earth is legitimately retarded. I don’t even feel sorry for everyone that got fried in the Challenger explosion. Space niggers don’t deserve oxygen.

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how can peopel be so stupid? Where is the revolution?

What is wrong with people I watched this:



And my only question is what did they think to themselves? Because my instant thoughts would be:

>Yep thats capitalism for you, system is rotten and you can feel it on your own skin.

>Literal rat race, capitalism the problem right there

>Humans can not live under capitalism

Why are people not simply jumping to the obvious conclusion?

I mean seriously?!

The communism is well established in popular culture so its not a unknown concept to people.

They at least can recognize the communist symbols so….

Why the fuck are these jokers not realizing the problem is capitalism?

Why are there no open demonstrations of communists in the streets?

Ok for get about this why is the idea of destroying capitalism not engraved in popular speech?

Why are YT comment section not full of

>Capitalism fault!

>Capitalism is the problem!

Why is no one realizing this? And what are these idiots thinking in their heads?

>Oh I was in a insane institution bent on burning me out and extracting money

>Better go to sleep.

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Are you aware of this guys existence?This guy claims that Hitler was a socialist and somehow has 2.9million subs.


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Zizek: If we want to survive on this planet, we need to abandon the cause of the nation state

If we really care for the fate of the people who comprise our nation, our motto should be: America last, China last, Russia last.


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If you think yellow vest protests are because of capitalism and not because of niggers chimping out daily then you are fucking deluded retards. Tick tock time is up lefty parasites. Soon you will be fucked in the ass. Cant wait to see your brains splattered on streets. Those protests will hit whole western world soon. Also little portip wear antifa clothing and shit so i can snipe you from balcony.


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general webm thread

I just wanted to bring this old thread back.

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It seems like porky must be getting scared of this succdem. This is some serious mask slippage here, how can /pol/ pretend that media doesn't pander to them anymore? Since most of youtube caters towards rightwing material along with a good chunk of internet journalism being made by people backed by Koch money.

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I know this is probably pointless but what would be the most convincing argument here?

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Have you ever felt like you were brainwashed or convinced by right wing propaganda?

All my closest friends are right wing and after hanging out with them for so long I started to feel like their "arguments" were getting in my head. I never really side with them, but I find myself disagreeing with comrades over social issues and similar stuff more than I would want to.

The worst thing about it is that I actually research the topic and I realize all the things I believed were absolute bullshit. Any advice on how to always think critically and to don't swallow fake news? Should I even bother discussing politics with right wing people?

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ITT: leftist "theorists" who should have never theorized.

Post the absolute worst. Bonus points for why their theories suck.

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Texas Roadhouse Forcing Workers to Dance

Excellent thread on /biz/ right now:


I actually went to one of these restaurants with my boomer parents once, and had no idea they would be dancing. It was extra fucked up though, because we were in the deep south and all the employees were black. They had to sing some kind of old spiritual slave song and were marching around in a line with their hands together, it looked like a fucking chain gang.

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Meanwhile in Russia

In Russia there is a new myth that in the Soviet Union people with disabilities were killed. There is also a massive cult of elon musk, still strong even after he was fired from tesla.

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>Has not experienced a significant economical crash since before ww2

>highest living standards in the world

>healthy democracy, everyone has a say

>economy is built on trading natural resources like fish and oil which benefit everyone

>well-educated and civilized population

>worker unions have great power and makes sure that we all have great working conditions and pay, even at mcdonalds restaurants

>very low unemployment

>high satisfaction, no corruption

>gives great aid to developing countries that have helped

>freedom of speech and freedom of press, almost too much even

>welfare system has worked for everyone, keeps people safe

>aggressive advertisement is illegal, and people are educated enough to see through corporation schemes and can make informed purchases

>somehow all of this greatness is just "capitalism with smily face hurr"

inb4 "muh imperialism", you have to prove that we really depend on third-world countries when we actually produce most of our stuff ourselves and our foreign investment stimulates the economic growth of the recipient countries.

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You may not like it, but this is the proletariat's vehicle. Saysomething nice to her.

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Voice of America Jazz Hour

The Voice of America Jazz Hour was broadcast on Voice of America beginning on January 6, 1955, and through 2003… As jazz was frequently banned in the Soviet Union and countries sympathetic to its views, Voice of America was often the only way people in those countries could listen to jazz, and Willis Conover's politics-free broadcasts are widely credited for keeping interest in jazz active in Soviet satellite states. [3]


William Gavin, a former official of the United States Information Agency, recently called the Conover show one of America's greatest foreign policy tools, since it attracts an audience that the Voice hopes will also listen to the freight - the expression of official American policies.


>b- but jazz isn't fascist!!11!

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Is there any video analyzing the current economic crisis from a marxist point of view (end of capitalism)?

I'll appreciate any kind of youtube lecture about the topic.


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Looks like halfchan's having a bit of trouble. What do you believe to be the cause of this? I honestly don't think this is all the fault of /pol/ in itself, but the lack of good memes from 4chan outside of say /biz/. However I'm kind of a fucking moron, so I want your takes on 4chan's decline. I'm sure 8chan will blame SJWs for this somehow.

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/leftyaus/ 40°C Aussie Christmas Edition

Thoughts on them student protests a week or so back?

Can class consciousnesses be fostered in the youth?

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What are your thoughts on school and university, is it just stealing your money?

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The fight with /b/

The thread was deleted for a reason. Why did you idiots have to continue to make fools of us? /b/ doesn't care about ideology and have none of their own. It is impossible to debate those retards.

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I'm never gonna read das kapital, is this a worthwhile alternative or is there a better way?

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this guy slaps your girl in the ass and says

>Essentially, Marx reached the result that the means of production cannot generate surplus value by confusing depreciation, or the loss of value by a machine, with value creation. The truisms that the maxi- mum amount of value that a machine can lose is its exchange-value, and that a machine's exchange-value will fall to zero only when its use-value has been completely exhausted, were combined to conclude that the value a machine adds in production is equivalent to the ex- change-value it loses in depreciation. With the value added by a ma- chine equated to value lost, no net value is transferred to the product, and therefore only labor can be a source of surplus value.

>While the argument may appear plausible, in reality it involves a confusion of two distinct attributes of a machine: its cost (exchange-value) and its usefulness (use-value). From a Marxian perspective, depreciation is the writing-off of the original exchange-value of a machine over its productive life. Consequently, the maximum depreciation that a machine can suffer is its exchange-value. As it wears out, both its residual value and its usefulness will diminish, and both will terminate at the same time. However it does not follow that the usefulness (the value creating capacity) of the machine is equal to its cost (its depreciation). Though a capitalist will "write-off the latter completely only when the former has been extinguished, the two aspects are nonetheless completely different and unrelated. There is no reason why the value lost by the machine should be equivalent to the value added. An analogy with labor highlights the fallacy involved in equat- ing these two magnitudes. If workers receive a subsistence wage, and if the working day exhausts the capacity to labor, then it could be argued that in a day a worker "depreciates" by an amount equivalent to the subsistence wage—the exchange-value of labor power. Howev- er this depreciation is not the limit of the amount of value that can be added by a worker in a day\'s labor—the use-value of labor. Value added is unrelated to and greater than value lost; if it were not, there could be no surplus.

how do you respond?

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OC Thread 3.0

OC Thread 3.0

I suppose we should establish a new thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content.

Feel free to post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you would like to share.

Or, collaborate on improving content within this thread.

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>Eventually all the older people who actually lived during Socialism will die

>With their deaths the last living proof and accounts of what socialism in the Eastern Bloc was actually like will disappear leaving only those who grew up during the capitalist reforms

>Capitalists and Fascists in those countries will then cherry pick accounts that fit their narrative and make it look like it was literally all breadlines and starvation

I know they kind of already do this, but someone or some group better be recording testimonies and interviews in mass because this shit is coming and kids aren't going to have grandparents or great-grandparent to give them eyewitness accounts anymore. These people will be written out like they never existed.

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Human Capital

Do you also advocate for the equal redistribution of women?

A few rich capitalists controlling the means of production and most capital wealth is parallel to some males being able to secure multiple females and leaving some males without a mating partner, banishing them to a lifelong struggle of loneliness, unquenchable sexual desires and social condemnation.

If you're for the redistribution of wealth, then you surely would be for the redistribution of human capital, particularly the redistribution of female companionship of the top masculine males to the rest of the male populace.

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Concept Art

Post some pictures/paintings/cartoons of what socialism and communism will look like.

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“Left Pilled”

Can we please popularise this term to mean when you realised your liberal, conservative or fascist ideology were absolutely retarded compared to the chad Marxist philosophy

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I'm super far-right and know i need to change, i see the wrongs of capitalism but enlighten me on the wrongs of nationalism.

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Is capitalism the force responsible for declining birthrates and replacement migration? If so, can anyone convince me as to why it's capitalism rather than cultural and moral degradation as conservative and reactionaries profess?

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hey guys the yellow vests are in America now.


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South Park did a commie episode where they literally quote Marx and set up a worker's revolt plot against Amazon

Did Matt and Trey finally renounce their libertarianism and accept the secret left-wing ideology they've always held? Guess we won't know until next week when the 2-parter concludes.

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Did they only ever try because they were afraid of the Soviets?


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Is Marxism basically just

"This sucks. What lead to this?"

How do you hide "class consciousness" in a way everyday people can digest?

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Going forward.

What should we be reading / doing in the current year to achieve our goals?

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News 11/8

Police Deploy Armored Vehicles Tear Gas Against Paris Protesters, Detain Hundreds

The streets of Paris were filled with thousands of protesters again on Saturday, in what has become French President Emmanuel Macron's biggest challenge as demonstrations grow more intense.It's the fourth rally by the gilets jaunes, or "yellow vests," protesters wearing the fluorescent jackets required by French law to be in every vehicle.


Amber Rudd floats 'Plan B' before key vote on May's Brexit deal

A close ally of British Prime Minister Theresa May on Saturday became the first cabinet minister to float a possible Plan B if, as expected, parliament next week rejects her proposal to leave the European Union.


PH military backs ‘liquidation squad’ against NPA

The Philippine military on Wednesday backed President Rodrigo Duterte’s proposal to form a hit squad against the New People’s Army.But Brigadier General Edgard Arevalo, military spokesman, said they would prefer the name “Team counter-NPA liquidation squad” instead of “death squad.”


Teachers strike in South Australia and Tasmania

Thousands of teachers in the Australian states of Tasmania and South Australia took part in strike action late last month. The stoppages were the latest expression of growing opposition to a pro-business assault on the sector spearheaded over the past decade by Labor governments and enforced by the unions.


After Rejecting US Resolution Condemning Hamas, UN Easily Passes Resolution Condemning Israeli Occupation

In a blow to Nikki Haley in her final weeks as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, the General Assembly on Thursday overwhelmingly adopted a resolution calling for an end to the Israeli occupation just after the body rejected a U.S. resolution condemning Hamas.


Iran's Rouhani says sanctions may lead to drugs, refugee, bomb 'deluge'

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani predicted a “deluge” of drugs, refugees and attacks on the West if U.S. sanctions weaken Iran’s ability to contain them.“I warn those who impose sanctions that if Iran’s ability to fight drugs and terrorism are affected … you will not be safe from a deluge of drugs, asylum seekers, bombs and terrorism,” Rouhani said in a speech carried live on state television.


Hungarian workers protest 'slave law' overtime rules

Hungarians have taken to the streets to protest against labor law changes that would allow employers to demand up to 400 hours overtime per year. The government says it needs greater worker flexibility Thousands of workers demonstrated in Budapest on Saturday, objecting to a change in the labor code proposed by Prime Minister Victor Orban's right-wing Fidesz party.


Russia says its Su-57 stealth fighter will be armed with deadly hypersonic missiles that can defeat all US defenses

Russia's Su-57 stealth fighter jet will be armed with hypersonic missiles, according to Tass, a Russian state-owned media outlet."In accordance with Russia's State Armament Program for 2018-2027, Su-57 jet fighters will be equipped with hypersonic missiles," a Russian defense industry source told Tass..


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Why does America harbor the most obnoxious reactionary and racist people on earth ?.

99% of the time when i come across some retarded spook on internet it was posted by an American.

Whats in the US that makes people that mentally deranged?

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HAES Thread

Health at Every Size® principles help us advance social justice, create an inclusive and respectful community, and support people of all sizes in finding compassionate ways to take care of themselves.

HAES includes the following basic components:


Celebrates body diversity, Honors differences in size, age, race, ethnicity, gender, dis/ability, sexual orientation, religion, class, and other human attributes.

Critical Awareness:

Challenges scientific and cultural assumptions

Values body knowledge and lived experiences.

Compassionate Self-care:

Finding the joy in moving one’s body and being physically active

Eating in a flexible and attuned manner that values pleasure and honors internal cues of hunger, satiety, and appetite, while respecting the social conditions that frame eating options.

We’ve lost the war on obesity. Fighting fat hasn’t made the fat go away. And being thinner, even if we knew how to successfully accomplish it, will not necessarily make us healthier or happier. The war on obesity has taken its toll.

Extensive “collateral damage” has resulted: Food and body preoccupation, self-hatred, eating disorders,

discrimination, poor health, etc. Few of us are at peace with our bodies, whether because we’re fat or because we fear becoming fat.

Health at Every Size is the new peace movement.

It supports people of all sizes in addressing health directly by adopting healthy behaviors. It is an inclusive movement, recognizing that our social characteristics, such as our size, race, national origin, sexuality, gender, disability status, and other attributes, are assets, and acknowledges and challenges the structural and systemic forces that impinge on living well.

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The Democratic Republic of Afghanistan

Tell me about the DRA, it's politics, it's quality of life, and the war in general. If the DRA managed to suppress the Mujaheddin could it have survived to this day or would it have eventually collapsed? Also, post DRA pics.

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How do you control specialization?

This is directed at communists, not socialists.

Help me with my ignorance friends as I can not comprehend this.

If I were to ask you, who is the better fisherman, the man who spends all day fishing or the man who fishes for a hobby, no doubt you would say the man who spends all day fishing because he has specialized in fishing.

And yet, if I were to ask you, who is the better leader, the man who has specialized in organizing other men, or the fisherman, you say the fisherman.

This is an oversimplification, but it keeps coming up time and again. You say it's wonderful that a person specializes in fishing, or farming, or construction, or labor, but if a person specialized in leading and organizing fishers, or farmers, or builders, they are the evil oppressor. I can't come to understand how you can make such an assertion.

If i'm wrong in my interpretation, please explain to me why.

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As we all know, accusations of lack of democracy is one of the main ways western countries demonize other countries and justify sanctions and war against them. But what is the state of democracy like in the countries considered enemies of the west actually like? For example, the DPRK, Iran, Cuba, Syria, Venezuela, Russia and China. As far as I know, every single one of these countries holds elections of one sort or another, but it's still common knowledge that these countries are all dictatorships, and the elections fake. What's the truth here? Which of these countries have legit elections and which are 100% dictatorships?

On a related note, I've noticed that liberals often treat democracy as a binary thing, an on/off switch. Either a country is a democracy (which usually coincidences with being good friends with the US) or it's a dictatorship, but it's obvious to me that democracy, rule of the people, exists on a spectrum. The US, "a democracy", has elections but a bunch of problems which compromise the legitimacy of the democratic process, such as normalization of huge amounts of money in politics, voter fraud, a few media companies having complete control over the access to information, etc. Conversely, if you study Stalin era USSR (an obvious "totalitarian dictatorship" to most people) you find that even that society had democratic elements to it. Categorizing countries into democracies and dictatorships is mostly a way to signal which countries are "good" and which deserve sanctions and military intervention.

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The free will question

From my understanding, libertarian free will is idealistic, as it requires immaterial forces to act on the material world. From my basic understanding, there's also hard determinism and compatibilism though I haven't really grasped the difference.

What is the correct Marxist stance on free will?

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Warsaw Pact General

Was gonna make a USSR general, but it's better to expand a little.

Try and go beyond sharing aesthetic pics and post more informative stuff.

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Any limes going to counter protest this shit right now?


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Can we get a thread dedicated to leftist music going? Post all songs and artists related to socialism, communism, anarchism, workers’ struggles, revolts of the oppressed, anti-racism, anti-imperialism/anti-war, anti-fascism, anti-consumerism, the outright fuckery of capitalism, classic protest songs, or anything related to leftism. All languages welcome. Bonus points for music which invokes heavy emotion such as tears and/or militancy.

Hardmore: no edgelords and/or hoodrats. No obnoxious “anarcho punk,” no Death Shits, no Denzel ChickenCurry, no JPeggy, none of this angry nihilism aesthetic. Post real proletarian music which speaks to the struggles and hardships of the proletariat, not just shit which angers your mom.

Starting off with the Red Army Choir (classic):


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Mainstreaming socialism/communism in the US?

pic unrelated.

In terms of winning over the bulk of the population (specifically in America), what do you guys think the tack to take is? Since mass politics are crucial to the success of Marxism as an ideology, what can we do to bring ourselves into the mainstream and persuade people, en masse, to join up?

My thoughts here are admitted unrefined, but I personally think that we need to do community-level stuff in our locales, then get a few biggish victories (perhaps in the mould of AOC) to make some noise, and then start really getting power and doing stuff with it. That's obviously not an actual program, but does represent a broad trajectory. I'm really interested in what you guys have to say with regards to messaging, policies to focus on, and on-the-ground, day-to-day tactics, especially outside of electoral organizing.

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Who here is actually involved in real life organising?

What do you do?


you don't have to specific and if you are active in the west chance is posting on this forum is the last of your worries and also you are all little bitches so i doubt anything you are doing is very illegal

What are your experiences with these things?

Have you found them to be successful? What made them successful? What them unsuccessful

I am involved in a trade union (IWW) which has a been mostly unsuccessful although is beginning to organise couriers although this is mostly done outside of the actual union membership. The union is unsuccessful because most members are idpol students or there abouts. They care more about making it an inclusive safe space than they do actually making a functioning union

Also there is "too much democracy" in that it is run directly democratically but in a really structured way that makes it extremely bureaucratic

The meetings are badly chaired making them painful to sit through,

I am also involved in a tenants union, it is very effective, actual gains have been made for the working class and the union is growing. It is still very democratic although there is clear leadership. Decisions are still made by consensus and the various teams have a high level of autonomy while still be answerable to a central structure

Also involved in antifa, which is a shitshow either people know how to fight but nothing about politics or they know loads about politics but are huge pussies, there is rare crossover but not enough and more people who know jack shit about fighting or politics

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Talk with me and ask me questions so i can unravel what my ideology is.

I have no friends so i never get to excersice the way i aproach most subjects, i only talk to my family and they are a bunch of reactionaries, they just dismiss shit when it even makes them have to think anything more than a minute, and don't ever look at the actual promises a politician running makes. Just ask me sets of questions or engage with me, leave them there and i will answer them when i get back from showering, so in 15 minutes or less. I have already done something like this on reddit, asked people to recommend me stuff to read and they also asked me some questions, which i found more helpful to find my own personal view on the world. I will probably wind up being a lefty, i agree with most proposals in a general way, i have never read theory, but at least i can say i'm not a right winger. I believe in climate change, i believe everyone deserves decent living conditions, i believe wealth hoarding is terrible and i don't discriminate, though i believe you guys may agree with that last statement as long as it's not idpol, right?, i heard you fellas really hate that stuff. I honestly think it's okay to understand the problems of certain groups, my only grip with it could be that it sometimes takes the spotlight of class based problems. Go on, i will take a shower.

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Capitalist Mythologising


Look at this semi-religious propaganda for a corporation.

>revere the inherited CEO like a God!

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FUCK. Guess this is it, all that work for absolutely nothing…

Time to pack it in boys

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Bernie 2020

Why do leftists so strongly reject supporting Bernie Sanders for a 2020 run?

The Call, the influential caucus made up for Jacobin Writers/Momentum Slate in the Democrat Cops of America, is heavily pushing for Bernie to run. Meaning that Democrat Cops of America will probably end up endorsing Sanders.

Isn't the logical thing to do is canvass for the only presidential candidate calling themselves a socialist? (who actually has a chance of winning, fuck Avakian)

good arguments:


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Why Threads on America Are Pointless

Since someone was complaining yesterday about the lack of attention America gets around here nowadays, the perfect example as to why nobody wastes their breath just came up. Look at what these retards are up to this time, it sounds like Refoundation/The Feds are now doxxing people to their chapters for posting on no-no subreddits and being mean online.

>the e-board

>the e-board

>the e-board

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People's republic of Bulgaria

What do you know about this country? It's probably one of the least discusses Warsaw Pact countries. Through osmosis from here you can learn plenty about the USSR, DDR, Hungary, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Albania, Yugoslavia and Romania but somehow Bulgaria is rarely mentioned.

Actually tell a bit about Bulgaria and important historical moments and significant industries (like buses were for Hungary) instead of just aesthetic pictures of the city or the beach.

though aesthetic pics are also welcome

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Converting halfchan

Considering halfchan is full of angry teenagers who suffer the consequences of capitalism and who are only misguided because of their age, and that most absolutely despise wageslaving and idealize the NEET lifestyle, is it possible to convert them? They see us as a "them" full of SJWs and ill-informed childish people who "have never worked a day in their lives".

>inb4 /pol/ screenshots and claims we are raiding them

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Marxism and Labor

When will Marxist leave behind 19th century understanding of labor emancipatory politics and integrate modern thinkers?

"Traditional Marxism, he argues, has made labor the basis rather than the object of its critique, affirming it as a universal aspect of the human condition. A revolution that aims to emancipate labor rather than abolish it will end up perpetuating the proletarian condition. Returning to workers the entirety of the wealth they produce will not end their unfreedom, if this still means that people have no say over the conditions of their own life."


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Ostalgie Thread: Bunker edition

Since the last thread died, it is time for /leftypol/ to ruin Albania.

All difuculties are selected.

Does the Politburo want to do anything before we begin?

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20th International Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties

How is it possible, no one is talking about this here?


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Thoughts on George Sorel?

Seems like he has some interesting shit to say about myth and violence. It works well for fascists so we might as well give it a try

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Carter vs Reagan

can we have a full discussion on which of them actually kicked off the neoliberal era? I saw some anons talking about in another thread but I'm still convinced it's Reagan. he was basically a full supporter of Friedmanism and other borderline Austrian school bullshit. Carter did the same shit any president before him would have done in that era.

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reggaeton will win

reggaeton will win

reggaeton will win

reggaeton will win

reggaeton will win

reggaeton will win

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1. Your cunt

2. Where were you when the Anglo-Latin anti-imperialist alliance was officially formed?

Porky's afraid: AMLO is a bigger threat to Liberal Democracy than Brazil's Bolsonaro: Financial Times


AMLO Backs Corbyn for UK's PM position during Inaguration


(In spanish)

AMLO's wildly ambitious plan for Mexico


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Party and idpol ruined pro-worker protest in Hungary

Hello, commiefags. Hungarian /pol/ack here. I fucking hate you all. But I'm not a right-wing extremist either when it comes to the economy. So I also hate the idea that regulations regarding working conditions are about to change here and for the worse, they will allow more overtime work hours with shady conditions of payment, to appease Audi and other foreign corporations.

So I swallowed back the puke in my mouth and went to protest with the same people who I'd be probably gladly throw off helicopters at any other time. I figured that the left would be smart enough to stop sperging out momentarily to properly resist this indeed dreadful legislation. Boy, was I wrong?

At the protest: braindead pensioner fans of various pretend-socialist parties (who are just as "porky" as the current govt), radical feminists, 3 different gay organizations, and soy boys, some fucking retards waving actual Soviet flags, EU flags, MSZP, Momentum, DK and a variety of other party flags.

There were a number of speakers, about 90% of what they said was about quetching for so-called "democratic" and "European" values, whining about the CEU's alleged mistreatment (Soros University). Seeing that the protest was simply a gathering of liberal, globalist, and the occasional ☭TANKIE☭ scum using the regulation changes as an excuse, which were then hardly even mentioned I cringed hard and promptly left. For the record, as I heard, the issue got just a little bit more focus after I left. I could not stay, simply because the protest was not about what they said it would be.

I was not the only one. I know my country. There were barely 1000 people, and the protest was in the capital, where hundreds of thousands of people oppose the government. The far-right here is more economically socialist than the so-called socialists ever were. This issue is important for everyone regardless of political affiliation. Even FIDESZ voters hate it. If it was not for the left's retardation and their eagerness to exploit this issue as an excuse to protest for their repulsive identity and party politics, we could have stood together and had an actual chance to force change. But it is gone.

So here is an advice, /leftypol/. If you really care about worker's well-being, learn when to leave the hammer and sickle flag, identity politics, and your favorite party's flag at home. If you try to use unifying issues as a vessel to push the usual bullshit, it will backfire, and you will waste a chance to do some actual good for a change. For a positive example, look at France's yellow vests.

You may tell me to fuck off now.

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Problem of foreign investment

I was just thinking about the problems of expropriation and continued integration in world markets for a socialist country, and I wanted some clarity. So, any corrections are welcome.

It seems to me as though stopping capital outflows while encouraging capital inflows is a general goal of many developed countries. Developing countries are different, typically they have a more direct interest in stopping capital outflows because they don't want any investment into the country to then be followed by their rich just booking it to the west as soon as they can. But nobody really wants to leave the developed countries except for other developed countries, so taking the US for example the capital account is always at a surplus.

But assuming a country like the US suddenly expropriated all the businesses in some manner, or even did tame socdem reform that actually cause rich people to start shoveling even more money overseas, there is always this problem of what to do. I know Cockshott just encourages maintaining control of real capital goods, which is all fine, but still neglects the problem of how to make up for any lost investment income in the economy. I'm interested in the notion of turning a part of the profit share of GDI into some kind of financial instrument. So right now the net operating surplus for private enterprise in the US is about 24% share of GDI. I think wage share is like 43% or something, and then the rest is depreciation of capital (around 15%) and govt. spending. So I was thinking what if the 21st century socialist version of an intermediate stage, which would be a non-international socialist state, would be to take a certain share of what currently goes to profit, interest and rent and just bundle it into an instrument akin to a bond, but with a particularly high yearly rate. This, of course, being relative to the stability of the country. There are countries with very high bond yields, but they're unstable. You could have a stable, developed country with a yield of 10-15% on a 1 year bond. You'd become the world's saving account. This would be accepted as an amount of controlled foreign exploitation. It would primarily serve as a source of foreign currency to keep the socialist state easily integrated in the world economy.

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Cubans are getting internet


>Cuba's population is to be offered internet access via a 3G mobile network from later this week.

Thoughts? I think this is a great change. Maybe we can get some Cubans to post here or do an AMA. Literally every Cuban I have met on the internet is some upper-middle class Gusano from Florida that has never been to Cuba.

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bash the fash

>We don't respect the rights of FASCISTS !

>fun fact, we also define who is and is not a fascist, as an example if an election goes a different way than we want or someone says mean words or they disagree with my internationalism, they are basically like defacto honorary fascists , ya know?

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If you're a leftist why aren't you using a GNU/Linux distro? If you use Windows or Mac why are you even here?

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No, you have not discovered a grand truth hidden by the elites. You are just shouting at each other in this echo chamber that the whole world is about to end every five years and that the current system that everyone except a few entitled lazy teenagers oppose. Sure, the horribly unchecked capitalism in the US is horrible, but with countries where they have figured out how to have a fair system (Norway, Switzerland, Denmark, Japan) you shout "HURR CAPITALISM WITH SMILEY FACE" without acknowledging how they are the best countries in the world and everyone gets a fair chance at a good life if they work hard enough (getting a job here is ridicilously easy as long as you have decent grades). You talk like everything is going to collapse as if the economists wouldn't have predicted it by now, but guess what, we have practically reached the end of history. A few dictators in the third world are couped and you conspiracy theorists genuinely believe that the CIA is building a world hegemony. Your cognitive dissonance is just astounding. The riots in France could have just been prevented with a Swiss semi-democracy.

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With the thread about Norwegian Social Democracy being active, I thought maybe it would to have a thread like this?

Thoughts about the 2021 election

Is Rødt a DemSoc party or are they becoming SocDem?

Is Moxnes the right leader for the party?

Will AP (Norwegian Labour) Collapse in the future?

Will FrP (Progress Party) become more radical?

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Earth Strike!

>Earth Strike is a grass-roots environmental activist movement which aims to pressure governments and corporations around the world to take immediate action to avoid irreversible climate change before it is too late.

>The Earth Strike movement has formed a plan of action spanning 2019 with four primary international events. Local organizers are encouraged to take any opportunities their groups have to get protesters on the streets or at local events to gain more attention for the movement.

I've seen this quickly gaining momentum across left-wing youtube/reddit/twitter/discord/AOL instant messenger and I'm pretty convinced it will be pretty big so I'm starting an Earth Strike discussion thread. If you're not planning on participating in the strike directly it's best if you try to spread the message as far as possible.




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>The social principles of Christianity justified the slavery of antiquity, glorifies the serfdom of the Middle Ages and are capable, in case of need, of defending the oppression of the proletariat, with somewhat doleful grimaces.

>The social principles of Christianity preach the necessity of a ruling and an oppressed class, and for the latter all they have to offer is the pious wish that the former may be charitable.

The social principles of Christianity place the Consistorial Counsellor’s compensation for all infamies in heaven, and thereby justify the continuation of these infamies on earth.

The social principles of Christianity declare all the vile acts of the oppressors against the oppressed to be either a just punishment for original sin and other sins, or trials which the Lord, in his infinite wisdom, ordains for the redeemed.

>The social principles of Christianity preach cowardice, self-contempt, abasement, submissiveness and humbleness, in short, all the qualities of the rabble, and the proletariat, which will not permit itself to be treated as rabble, needs its courage, its self-confidence, its pride and its sense of independence even more than its bread.

>The social principles of Christianity are sneaking and hypocritical, and the proletariat is revolutionary.

*tips fedora*

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Kill all liberals plz

at this point im honestly just done with bourgouise liberal democracy. The world should just be fascists vs communists and we should battle it the fuck out until the greater ideology wins

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A 35 USD Ariel doll earns the chinese worker 1p


Turns out salary is a quantitative difference from slavery.

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My socdem friend told me that Marxism was irrelevant because the Labor Theory of Value was wrong and the relative theory of value is a better analysis of value. I read the first few chapters of Capital to make sure I had a good understanding of it and explained it to him. He told me that I had a convincing argument but said it was void because the consensus of mainstream economists didn't use it. How do I convince him otherwise or is it just a lost hope.

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WSWS - what do you think of these guys?


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President Pelosi

Individual_1 going away

VP was hand picked by Manafort, likely indicted.

Ready for President Pelosi in 2019?

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News 12/7

Merkel bows out to applause as CDU votes on successor

Angela Merkel received rapturous applause from her Christian Democrats on Friday, after delivering an emotional speech marking the end of 18 years as party leader in which she said she had been honoured to serve them.Merkel, 64, fought back tears as CDU delegates gave her a 10-minute standing ovation accompanied by cheers and cries of “Danke Angie”


France to deploy 89,000 security personnel ahead of Saturday protests

French Prime Minister Edouard Philippe said 89,000 members of the security forces would be deployed nationwide on Saturday, including 8,000 in Paris, where armored vehicles will also be out on the streets.“We are facing people who are not here to protest, but to smash and we want to have the means to not give them a free rein.


Ecuadorian president hints again at moves to renege on Julian Assange’s asylum

In a radio interview on December 6, President Lenín Moreno effectively demanded that WikiLeaks’ publisher Julian Assange leave the Ecuadorian embassy in London. Assange was granted political asylum by Ecuador in its embassy in 2012 because he faces the danger of prosecution in the US in retaliation for WikiLeaks’ publication of leaked information exposing US war crimes, diplomatic conspiracies, intelligence agency spying and political intrigues.


‘Hands off youth!’ Greeks protest on 10th anniversary of cop fatally shooting teen

Hundreds of demonstrators have hit the streets of Greece on the 10th anniversary of a teenager being fatally shot by an officer. Police deployed tear gas after some protesters threw stones and Molotov cocktails at officers.Around 1,700 people marched in a protest in Athens, according to AP.


Israel may expand anti-tunnel operation into Lebanon, minister says

Israel is prepared to take action in Lebanon against Hezbollah cross-border tunnels if necessary, an Israeli cabinet minister said on Friday.Israel’s military said earlier this week that it had found a number of passages dug across the Israel-Lebanon border to be used in carrying out attacks inside Israel. The Israeli military sent mechanical diggers, troops and anti-tunneling equipment to the border to shut them down.


DUP's Ian Paisley compares Brexit vote to 'hanging'

Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) MP Ian Paisley has compared the crucial vote on Brexit due next week to a "hanging".He was responding to the prime minister's assertion that there can be no deal without the controversial Northern Ireland backstop.Theresa May said MPs could be given the power to decide whether the UK goes into such an arrangement.


US sails warship near Russia-claimed waters in Sea of Japan to challenge 'excessive maritime claims'

The US Navy sailed a guided missile destroyer near contested waters in the Sea of Japan “to challenge Russia‘s excessive maritime claims” in a move widely expected to exacerbate strained relations with the Kremlin.


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Cybernetics and Cybersecurity General

In light of the board /gnussr/ itself being a dead failure and the regular talk of GNU/Linux, cyber security, and cybernetics that goes on in this board, I think we should have a general dedicated to lefty computer stuff. Feel free to ask questions about security, Linux, and programming, but it goes without saying that I do not have all the answers.

Here's a bunch of links I found that I consider useful. Note that these are really just the basics for anons who want to get more involved, this is not at all meant for intermediate users, or even users with entry-level CS knowledge.


```Computer Science/Cybernetics```

``Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs``


>Our design of this introductory computer-science subject reflects two major concerns. First, we want

to establish the idea that a computer language is not just a way of getting a computer to perform

operations but rather that it is a novel formal medium for expressing ideas about methodology.

``Towards a New Socialism``


>The core of the book consists of a series of chapters spelling out what we believe would be efficient and democratic methods for planning a complex economy

``The Python Tutorial``


>Python is an easy to learn, powerful programming language. It has efficient high-level data structures and a simple but effective approach to object-oriented programming.

``The C Book``


>The C language is still popular, particularly for open source software and embedded programming. We hope this book will be useful, or at least interesting, to people who use C.




>For more than 20 years, CompTIA has developed training and certification exams for computing support, networking, security, open-source (Linux) development, cloud and mobility. Our regular review and updates of exams ensure that CompTIA certifications continue to address the needs of today’s technology challenges.



>We believe that this world is far from being the best world possible. We respond to this by providing activists, groups and collectives with platforms for a freer communication and digital tools for privacy self-defence.

``Prism Break``



>Opt out of global data surveillance



>This article overviews how to configure Firefox to enhance security and privacy.

``Free Software Foundation``


>The Free Software Foundation (FSF) is a nonprofit with a worldwide mission to promote computer user freedom. We defend the rights of all software users.

``Richard Stallman``


>Political Notes and News Items



>Linux is a family of free and open-source software operating systems built around the Linux kernel.

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How come

I just opened and began reading the American Constitution. How come the United States didn't change this part of the Constitution after their actions (in actuality) had changed in practice.

The Constitution of the United States of America

Article 1

Section 1

All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

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United States Activism

…..dear /leftypol/…

…How can I participate in real-life political activism here in the United States?

Is it all on Discord?

Thank you! God bless you.

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Talking about wage

Why is this considered a taboo? Is it really that impolite to ask a person, how much he earns?

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Comrades, do your part and convince gamers to get off Steam

Get them the fuck outta there and support devs directly. If you're not doing your part, what are you doing?

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Labor Theory Of Value

The labor theory of value states that value is determined by the amount of "socially necessary" labor rewired to produce it rather than focusing on scarcity and consumer demand. Marxists claim that under this system workers will receive their "full value of labor". How do you earn anything without consumer demand, how do you determine what is socially necessary and how do you correlate that with the amount of time required to produce whatever you're going to produce and how do you decide what you're going to produce especially when you have no direction since everyone in the company is on the same level working in tandem together? How does this work without a central authority?

Protip: If you sage, then you have a fragile mind.


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What is leftypol's general consensus on accelerationism? What's your personal opinion on it? Can you give examples of accelerationism? I'll be honest i'm not very educated on leftist theory.

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News 12/6

Merkel's party votes for new leader, and new era in Germany

Angela Merkel’s Christian Democrats vote on Friday to decide who replaces her as party leader and moves into pole position to succeed her as German chancellor.The frontrunners are Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, a Merkel protege seen as the continuity candidate, and Friedrich Merz, a Merkel rival who has questioned the constitutional guarantee of asylum to all “politically persecuted” and believes Germany, Europe’s biggest economy, should contribute more to the European Union.


Sri Lankan plantation workers launch indefinite strike for 100 percent pay rise

Hundreds of thousands of plantation workers began an indefinite strike on Wednesday, demanding a doubling of their daily wage. Workers from all of Sri Lanka’s tea plantation districts, including Nuwara-Eliya, Badulla, Kandy, Kegalla, Ratnapura and Kalutara and Colombo, are participating.


Far-right terrorism in North America, Europe increased even as terrorism deaths declined: Report

Far-right terrorism increased in the U.S., Canada, and Western Europe in 2017, even as overall terrorism deaths fell for the third consecutive year, according to a new report.While they comprise a tiny fraction of total terrorism deaths and the overall threat picture is "encouraging," the report's author told ABC News, the rise of right-wing attacks has been an "increasing trend" in recent years.


US planned to ditch INF in advance, now seeks reason why it should – Putin on Pompeo ultimatum

The US has long planned to withdraw from the INF Treaty but it's only now that they started seeking justifications for it and conveniently pinned the blame on Russia, Vladimir Putin said after Washington’s 60-day ultimatum.


Yemen Peace Talks Begin In Sweden, As Humanitarian Crisis Deepens

For the first time in more than two years the Yemeni government and Houthi rebels are holding peace talks, with half of Yemen's population facing starvation as a result of the civil war.Representatives of both sides came face-to-face in a castle in Sweden.The parley, mediated by the United Nations, was not expected to produce an immediate breakthrough.


Australia passes bill to force tech firms to hand over encrypted data

Australia’s parliament on Thursday passed a bill to force tech firms such as Alphabet Inc’s Google (GOOGL.O), Facebook FB.N and Apple (AAPL.O) to give police access to encrypted data, the most far-reaching such requirements imposed by a western country.


Mexico's new president says relationship with Trump is 'good,' expects immigration talks soon

Mexico's new president, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, said Wednesday his administration's relationship with President Trump is "good" so far, adding that he expects immigration talks with the U.S. to begin soon.López Obrador on Wednesday also renewed his calls for Mexico and the U.S. to offer more work visas to Central Americans.


Boris Johnson ordered to apologise to Parliament for failing to declare earnings

Boris Johnson has been forced to apologise to the House of Commons after failing to report his full earnings to the House authorities on nine occasions.The former Foreign Secretary repeatedly failed to register his earnings within the time period required under parliamentary rules, the Commissioner for Standards found.. ..


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Andalusia elections: Liberals set to do deal with far right to oust socialists


>A far-right party has won seats in one of Spain’s regional parliaments for the first time since the fall of General Franco – where it looks set to decide the province’s government.

>Vox, which was founded four years ago on an anti-immigrant and anti-abortion platform, picked up 12 seats in the Andalusian elections on Sunday, a modest result that gives it a foothold in the province.

>The election was won by the socialist PSOE party, which has governed Andalusia for 36 years. But with the votes counted the centre-left group does not have enough seats to command a majority, even with the support of its left-wing allies

>The results mean that the only path to ousting PSOE is a deal between Vox, the conservative People’s Party (PP), and the liberal Citizens party.

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Why can’t people realize that humanity was a mistake?

Why do they think they have more right to life than all the diverse and beautiful life forms on Earth that don’t actively destroy this planet’s fragile nature? This is the only spot in the universe with life as we know it and we treat it like a dump.

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Extremely based and redpilled move by China


Buy a ZTE smartphone today to critically support the struggle against US imperialism

The burger FEARS the Chinese telecom bvlls

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is there something like RT but for China? just to gain a general awareness of what Chinese people see on the news.

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/uspg/ - US Politics General

The last thread died, long live the new thread.

Midterms rapidly approaching gomrades. With impeachment proceedings likely on the horizon, the next congress will surely be a historic one.

What do you all think will happen? Let's discuss the spectacle of bourgeois liberal democracy in the era of Gronald Grumph.



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I have no concepts whatosoever of sympathy, altruism, comradery or community; sell me on why I should help advance leftist politics.

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Fiat currency

From my understanding, since Nixon detached the dollar from gold, dollar is now a fiat currency. What does this mean in Marxist terms?

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Dubtrack thread: lazarus edition


Come play some tunes and relax in the /leftypol/ dubtrack room to bring it back to life and get comfy.

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Here we discuss Israel, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Israel's ties to greater American imperialism and it's relations with other countries in the middle, whether or not it is an ethnostate, two state solution, one-state solution, "le no state solution xD" for the edgy anarkiddies who still think R.ojava did anything at all to make Syria into true communism, and so on

To start the thread off I'll summize an interesting article I've just read:

>The White House has expanded its offensive against the rights of the Palestinian people for self-determination on two fronts, including the right to return to the lands taken from them by the Israeli state.

>The most recent front is in Palestine and involves a drastic cut in what is normally described as humanitarian aid. The U.S. cut its $200 million contribution to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for its aid work in occupied Palestine on Aug. 24. The U.S. decision leaves UNRWA’s provision of health care and emergency aid as well as education for 526,000 Palestinian refugee children facing a serious shortfall.

>Back in the U.S.A., the administration has sharpened its attack on people who work in solidarity with Palestinians and with Palestine, falsely accusing them of anti-Semitism. Kenneth Marcus, Assistant Secretary of Civil Rights at the Department of Education, wrote a letter to the Zionist Organization of America promising to reopen an investigation of students at Rutgers University. These students are charged with anti-Semitism because they held a meeting in 2011 with a panel of Jewish Holocaust survivors under the heading “Never Again for Anyone.” The charges had been dropped by the Obama administration in 2014.

>While Washington and Tel Aviv have not always agreed on every tactic over 70 years, they have always shared common reactionary interests in that area of West Asia where Israel is a regional power. Israel was and is a settler state, isolated from its neighbors and oppressing the Indigenous population it removed from their homes and lands. The Israeli state has been both dependent on Western — and especially U.S. — imperialism for military, political and diplomatic aid. And it has also acted as an enforcer of imperialist interests in the region against anti-imperialist peoples and states

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Israel vs Hezzbolla confrontation

>Northern Shield: Israel launches op to cut off Hezbollah tunnels on Lebanese border


They didn't learn after the first time not to expand their settlements up north did they?

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Thoughts on this guy? Could someone summarize his contributions to Marxism? Especially his critique of humanism.

Wolff talked a bit about him on the Michael Brooks show recently but it was pretty vague: https://youtu.be/TeHye7P3RSA

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Give me some ideas /leftypol/ how would you fundraise as effectively as possible?

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Anti-Usury critiques vs Marxism

Is there any merit to the claim that it's more important to nationalize the money supply than to take control of the means of production? Is there any worth in considering alternative currencies, stuff like demurrage? Wouldn't these at least be better than the current form of capitalism?

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Why did nonrussians in the USSR hate the soviets?

Even with the whole mass appeal to minorities with Korenizatsiya and equal economic treatment, almost all minorities that the Nazis stumbled upon viewed them in the beginning as liberators.

This doesnt make sense, why would kalmyks(pic related) , Belarussians, Chechens, Tatars and Georgians have such hatred of socialism as to join volunteer divisions? They didnt suffer economically, werent russified or genocided historically and their culture was flourishing in the USSR.

Its as if Russians were the only ethnicity in the USSR to support communism, if we're to believe western claims.

Capitalists and Russophobes will tell me that they hated the USSR because it stole muh private propertees and muh freedumbz, but that implies that nonrussians inherently like capitalism more, which doesnt make sense.

Are there any sources that disprove the western claim that minorities despised the USSR and viewed the germans as liberators, because this phenomenon doesnt seem to have any objective causes.

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Marxian Sun Worship

All surplus value comes from the sun.


One of the biggest sources of surplus value is food. It takes less labor to make food than the amount of labor the food enables a person to do. The reason is that the sun is putting energy in your food, giving you surplus value.


The other big source of surplus value is when industry advances and lowers the amount of labor needed to produce labor-power-maintaining goods, thus reducing the price of labor power and increasing surplus. Nearly all industry is powered by the sun, usually indirectly through solar energy stored in fossil fuels.

>What about nuclear/fusion?

The highest stage of communism will come when men master the sun and create small suns on Earth to worship and give us abundant surplus.

Thank you for your time.

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I work graveyard shift at a for profit medical laboratory with about 50 other people on my shift that. It's a right to work state with parent company headquarters in Australia. We get healthcare, dental, vision options but only the health plan is even worth buying. Everyone is depressed and miserable including myself. What does "democratizing the workplace" even mean in practical terms? Do I just try to find out more about the company organizational structure? How do I organize a union, etc. Basically I'm a beginner bitch to leftist theory but want to do something to make life less shitty for my coworkers but don't know where to begin really. I'm ready to fucking kill myself from the isolation to be honest but I'd rather die fighting than continue to be a cog in the machine.

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Libertarian here. Thanks guys for fighting the 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧Federal Reserve🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 with us!

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Balkans General

With Bosnia as we know it since the signing of the Dayton Accords back in November 1995 living on borrowed time, what does /leftypol/ think regarding the future of the Balkans?

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1. What are the best pieces of anti-communist propaganda?

2. What is the best argument against Communism IRL?

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News 12/5

Global carbon emissions expected to hit all-time high in 2018

Global carbon pollution is on track to reach unprecedented levels in 2018, smashing hopes that the world had reached peak emissions.Growing energy demands combined with an unwillingness by many nations to let go of coal and oil are expected to result in a 2 per cent boost for emissions.


U.K. Releases Internal Facebook Emails Deliberating Data Access

The U.K. Parliament released about 250 pages of internal Facebook Inc. emails that lawmakers said show how executives at the social-media company, including Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg, gave some developers special access to user data and contemplated charging developers for data access.


Peru’s president prepares to attack workers’ living standards

Peru’s annual Conference of Executives (CADE-Executives 2018) ended last Saturday after three days of discussion between government officials, business executives, academics and politicians.The purported aim of the annual event is to seek solutions to economic and social problems affecting Peru. Not mentioned in the conference’s “brochure” is the conference’s real purpose: engaging in strategic thinking about how to deal with the working class.


PM suggests Serbia could intervene if Kosovo sets up full army

Serbia’s prime minister suggested on Wednesday that any creation of a standing army in Kosovo could provoke a military intervention by Belgrade, two decades after Kosovo Albanians’ uprising against Serbian rule.


Israel's Army Says It Found Tunnels Dug By Hezbollah Beneath Border With Lebanon

Israel has launched a military operation intended to "expose and destroy" a series of tunnels it says Hezbollah dug into Israel from Lebanon, where the militant group is based. The Israel Defense Forces embarked on Operation Northern Shield on Tuesday, surprising observers on both sides of the border.


Headhunt for right-wingers? Police to look into activists paying to dox ‘idiot’ Chemnitz protesters

In a quest to fight the “far-right,” a German activist group has launched a provocative name-and-shame campaign targeting Chemnitz anti-migrant protesters. The ploy sparked a police probe and was likened to Nazi practices.


Italy Tries to End Budget Fight With EU as Economy Teeters on Recession

Italy’s populist government is scrambling to retreat from a fight with the European Union over its budget, as the financial fallout from the clash pushes the economy to the brink of recession.Italy’s governing coalition of the antiestablishment 5 Star Movement and the nativist League is searching for ways to avoid a sharp rise in the government’s budget deficit.


Britain’s highest paid CEO built fortune on online gambling

Years of preying on the despair of millions of workers have enabled Denise Coates, the CEO of the online gambling site Bet365, to not only become Britain’s most well-paid boss, but also the highest paid businesswoman in the world.. ..


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Alt-right cringe thread

The people of France are desperate for their own Trump. They need saving from Macron's evil Islamic communism!

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Post /leftypol/ films. Preferably recent ones (i.e last few years) but all welcome. We're going to do a screening at my uni and would love some suggestions.

Pic related - don't really know a lot about the subject matter but I love Mike Leigh (only watched Naked tbh)

>general /leftypol/ recommendations


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one world order

what's wrong with one world order ?! after all we only have ONE planet with limited resources. a bit like being on a boat, if one side takes water the whole boat will sink.

this is especially relevant when it comes to environmental protection, you can't have one country taxing carbon and reducing pollution while others do nothing.

>inb4 global warming is fake news.

a one world government would also mean no wars, better resource management, better economical flow….

can any /pol/tard explain why a one world order would be worse then the current order?

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Would the income inequality between 1st world nations and post socialist nations (like those in Eastern Europe) be higher if it wasn't for the Socialist/Communist uprisings from the 20th century?

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In my country there are many people who identify loosely as Communists or Socialists, but they're not really serious about ir or very dedicated to the cause. How can I help fix this?

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What are /leftypol/s thoughts on this:


>Vox Artes was born from this double engagement: with the belief that art is necessarily political; and the belief that only the most thorough criticism will be able shed light on these ideological tectonic plates. This ambition can only be satisfied by standing for the most disciplined criticism, far from both moralistic comfort and technical enumeration–or rather, by the combination of both, and their recontextualization into a higher form of criticism. We consider that not many methods match this desire: that is the openly anticapitalist (and, more precisely, Marxist) mode of analysis, which alone is capable of embracing other methods and historicizing them in such a way that their critical edge remains, keeping them for their local relevance while also going beyond them to achieve a criticism that is truly in keeping with our analysis of the social totality we live in.

Is this what Zizek meant?

It is essentially a website for anticapitalist anime analysis. It was launched a couple days ago, this is the first article: https://voxartes.com/cute-girls-politics/

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/leftybritpol/ - shooting fireworks at 1am edition

There is literally nothing better than waking everyone up in the morning by shooting Roman candles at dickhead cats - and anyone that disagrees is probably a Lib Dem.

Post about your experience terrorising your bourgeois kulak neighbours with fireworks here.

This is the thread for Real Brits. Set one off for me tonight lads!

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Communist Political Machine

Call me an Opportunist, but I have an idea. Nowadays the biggest problem in the Radical Left is both sectarianism and the difficulties of encouraging people to be politically active for the cause. Revolutionary conditions just don't appear out of nowhere and agitating for revolution during times of relative stability is not going anywhere. Lenin would have not had the chance he did if Imperial Russia and the Provisional Government after if it didn't destroy the economy and society due to starting and continuing WWI when people were starving. Mao would have not risen if it weren't for the fact that China from the 1920s up tot the 1940s was in a state of instability, civil war, and an invasion from Japan; this should also factor Western Imperialism since the 1840s.

So my idea is to make a Communist Political Machine, one which incentivizes people to support a Communist Government ruled by a party by promising positions in the apparatchik due to their hard work agitating for the cause. Imagine promoting people in the organization based on how much money they give it or how much people they recruit to it. Imagine cutting up entire sections of territory into small little districts to be ruled by individual party members, and their cadre, as an area they administer as reward for the work they have brought in. Imagine the money made by the party through any means would be payed to staffers to entice them to consistently work for the cause. Of course front groups, selling merchandise, and other tactics would still be in play, but this machine is a great way to keep your party active and loyal. A person would not be willing to be sectarian if he loses a prominent position he has earned, even a middling position int he apparatchik is valuable.

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Why is leftypol opposed to UBI exactly? Both our ideologies are fiercely individualistic and promise the end of the ruling class.

UBI activists simply believe that it is pointless to make the means of production public as we are rapidly progressing to a post-labour society. This is driven, ironically, by the capitalists' desire to drive down costs and we're already seeing the fruit of the labour:




I just want to quickly lay down some answers to the common UBI questions so we don't spend all day establishing positions before we debate

>If there is no labour how will the state afford UBI?

<How will anybody afford anything in a society where most conceivable jobs can be done by AI?

>How does a UBI state sustain itself?

<The most important jobs will be those that still require human input: researchers, teachers, the intellectuals capable of advancing automation technologies

<The people looking to supplement their income will flock to jobs like education, the more applicants the better the employee

<The better the employee the better the education system. The better the education the more the citizens can innovate and finically sustain the state

>UBI allows private property and the accumulation of wealth which results in inequality

<I would argue that inequality is a concept derived from an economic system that allows people to have three houses while others sleep on the street

<It's hard to define inequality in a system where people have disposable income while others have more disposable income thanks to their endeavours


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Why do you push away "IDPOL"? Also, has anyone converted any? How?

When you can gain further support for the class struggle and build their knowledge.. make them think even if they attack you. You could recruit some… never know.

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Who moderates communism101 on reddit?

This is exactly why I don't like Leninsts/Stalinist. Instead of debating they attack who they don't agree with and/or PEOPLE WHO ASK THEM CHALLENGING QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR IDEOLOGY. They would execute you just for challenging them. You act like fucking leftist Trump supporters.

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Theresa May has been found of CONTEMPT OF PARLIAMENT, giving parliament the right to IMPRISON HER IN WESTMINSTER TOWER.

>Opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn stated that "Today is the beginning of a great offensive against the class-enemies of the British worker. We shall leave no stone unturned in our relentless hunt for the bourgeoisie."

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What if you had capitalism, but all land is owned by the state and cannot be bought or sold, and the constitution guarantees all citizens a home distributed to each according to their ability and needs, provided that they either: A) work for the state, and/or B) pay a private sector tax proportional to any private sector profit/income earned. The highest private sector tax rate would be 100% for any income earned above the highest income of a state employee (ex. scientist, senior engineer, surgeon). Anyone caught evading this tax would have all their assets seized by the state, and they would be forced into hard labour / military work to do the same amount of work equivalent to the amount of taxes they failed to pay the state.

Kim Jong Un says he wants ideas for capitalist reform and opening up, he's leaning towards Vietnam's 1986 Doi Moi Policy at the moment, but I think that goes way too far because their absolute highest tax rate is only 35%, all homes were privatised, the state seized a ton of property and kicked out the residents for their foreign investment-privatisation projects, and has led to an explosion of street homelessness.

If North Korea chooses the Vietnam route, they will be forced to remove this clause from their constitution:

>The State shall provide all the working people with every condition for obtaining food, clothing and housing.


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Recommend reading materials for a former militant neonazi who grew tired of it and has an increasingly interest for anarchism.

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"The people of France are desperate for their own Trump. They need saving from Macron's evil Islamic communism!"

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News 12/4

High school students and ambulance drivers join ‘Yellow Vest’ protests in France

Students staged demonstrations at 200 schools across the country on Monday, up from 50 on Friday. They expressed their solidarity with the ‘Yellow Vest’ protesters opposing president Emmanuel Macron, their opposition to Macron’s pro-corporate restructuring of university admissions, his mass layoffs of teachers, and his plans to reimpose the military draft.


U.S. gives Russia 60 days to comply with nuclear treaty

The United States delivered Russia a 60-day ultimatum on Tuesday to come clean about what Washington says is a violation of a arms control treaty that keeps missiles out of Europe, saying only Moscow could save the pact.


Nigel Farage quits UKIP over party’s ties to Tommy Robinson

UKIP founding member Nigel Farage has cut his ties with the party, accusing its leadership of trying to court “extremists” like English Defense League founder Tommy Robinson.

“With a heavy heart, I am leaving UKIP,” Farage said on Tuesday. “It’s not the Brexit party our nation so badly needs.”In his farewell op-ed, published in the Telegraph, Farage accused the party of trying to bring in “extremists,” describing the party in its current state as “obsessed with Islam and Tommy Robinson.”


US urges Europe to impose sanctions on Iran over missiles

The Trump administration is urging Europe to impose tough new sanctions on Iran over its ballistic missile program.The call comes as Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is to meet European officials in Brussels this week and after the U.S. and others condemned an Iranian missile launch over the weekend.


Ukraine resumes grain shipments from Azov Sea

Ukraine said on Tuesday it had resumed grain shipments from the Azov Sea, blocked for around 10 days after a military standoff with Russia in the Kerch Strait off Crimea.


Anti-vaccine Italian Government Sacks Entire Health Expert Board

The vaccine-skeptic Italian government has sacked every member of the country’s health advisory board, raising fears that the populist administration will sideline accepted science and inflict long-lasting damage on public health.Health minister Giulia Grillo removed all 30 members of the Higher Health Council Monday, arguing it is time to “give space to the new,” The Guardian reported.


Ecuadorean Vice President Maria Alejandra Vicuña Resigns

Ecuadorean Vice President Maria Alejandra Vicuña resigned her position on Tuesday. Vicuña released a statement saying that she had presented her resignation to President Lenin Moreno, and she addressed the nation for the last time as the official vice president of Ecuador in a video..


Mattis says war in Afghanistan needs to end: ‘40 years is enough’

Secretary of Defense James Mattis on Monday called for the international community to help end the war in Afghanistan and aid regional leaders in their efforts to bridge longstanding disagreements, saying that conflicts in Afghanistan have now gone on for “40 years.”


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American Self Cannibalization & the Crisis of Liberalism

Published a new article on my webpage, redeternity.com. A much shorter, much less detailed draft copy was put out as a video by Junruhe the other day, and I am hoping as many people are able to access the new, more published version. Looking for criticism/comments from leftypol.

The article is too long to publish in a single comment, so here is a link to the article on my webpage.


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The Soviet Education System

Does anyone have information on how the education system worked in the Soviet Union and other socialist states?

I keep hearing this line that you'd take a proficiency test in elementary school and that would determine your career path for the rest of your life and you weren't free to choose what you did for a living or something. What truth is there to this, if at all?

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Young Activists Go Missing in China, Raising Fears of Crackdown

>Unidentified men in at least five Chinese cities rounded up the activists, who are recent graduates of elite universities, over the past few days, according to friends of the activists. The men beat several activists before pushing them into cars and driving away, the friends said.

>The activists, describing themselves as ardent communists who fervently believe in the ideals of Marx and Mao, have waged an unusual campaign against inequality and corporate greed that has gained traction at some of China’s top schools.

Something something Chinese characteristics.

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Identity politics kill all left endeavours

Identity politics kill the left. Ows was killed by ip. Maybe someone looked to it. Ip frames the discussion about wages as a discussion about the 3 percent men make more not the 200 percent workers should get more because their productivity grew so much since the 70s


Prove me wrong, protip: you cant

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News 12/3

UK's May says ahead of Brexit vote: I will still have a job in two weeks

British Prime Minister Theresa May said she would still be in her job in two weeks time, downplaying speculation that she might resign if she loses a key Brexit vote in parliament which is scheduled for Dec. 11.“I will still have a job in two weeks’ time,” May said in an interview with ITV television when asked if she would quit if she lost the vote.


Third “yellow vest” protest in France defies government crackdown

The third Saturday protest held by protesters, clad in yellow vests to show their opposition to French President Emmanuel Macron and his anti-worker policies, spread across France. In downtown Paris, the protesters faced an unprecedented police crackdown, the most violent since May 1968, when police assaults on student demonstrations triggered the French general strike.The movement is rapidly developing into an international political protest against social inequality, the high cost of living, and the policies of austerity and war across Europe.


Amlo heralds Mexico's new dawn with 7am presidential press conference

Mexico’s newly inaugurated president has hit the ground running, with his pledge to govern as a common man and end decades of secrecy, heavy security and luxury enjoyed by past presidents.Andrés Manuel López Obrador sported slightly ruffled hair at his first early morning news conference as president on Monday, which started at 7am local time.


Ukraine calls up reservists amid tensions with Russia

Ukraine’s president has announced a call-up of reservists amid tensions with Russia.Relations between the two neighbors have strained further following the Nov. 25 incident in which Russia fired upon and seized three Ukrainian naval vessels and their crews.


Trump wants 'meaningful halt' in arms race with Russia, China

President Donald Trump on Monday expressed hope that he and the presidents of China and Russia might jointly agree to scale back defense spending, writing on Twitter that he was "certain" that such talks would take place and saying the amount of money the U.S. spends on defense is "crazy."


David Attenborough: collapse of civilisation is on the horizon

The collapse of civilisation and the natural world is on the horizon, Sir David Attenborough has told the UN climate change summit in Poland.The naturalist was chosen to represent the world’s people in addressing delegates of almost 200 nations who are in Katowice to negotiate how to turn pledges made in the 2015 Paris climate deal into reality.


Spain stunned as far-right Vox party storms into Andalucian parliament

Spain’s Vox party has claimed 12 seats in Andalusia in a regional vote – the far-right’s first electoral success since the country’s return to democracy in the late 1970s.Since it was founded four years ago, the anti-immigrant, nationalist party has never held any seats in any of the country's legislative bodies, but it now holds the key to forming a right-wing government in the country’s most populated region.


Netanyahu Faces Another Possible Indictment for Bribe to Get Glowing Media Coverage

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is facing calls to resign after Israeli police on Sunday recommended indicting him and his wife on fraud and bribery charges.It's the third such recommendation to hit the prime minister this year…


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Plato or Aristotle, comrades?

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US is starting propaganda campaign against China

>'I begged them to kill me', Uighur woman describes torture to US politicians

>Uighur woman describes torture to US politicians


It seems that US is starting to wage a warmongering propaganda campaign against China. Interesting times indeed.

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hey comrades i was always wondering do you have a problem with black poeple like myself?

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"Right-Left Movement Coming Together to End Unauthorized Wars."


alright MTWs and anarkiddies, this is your chance to show you actually care about anything and aren't excessive LARPers.

Rand Paul has officially launched a movement to combat Imperialism in Syria and Yemen for US voters.

they provide plenty of resources for using what's left of our democracy in this country to stop US Imperialism.

Will you fight? Or will you give in to spooks?

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As brilliant as Karl Marx was, his belief in the inevitability of revolution and the subsequent overthrow of capitalism by the very people being exploited by it is, I believe, highly suspect. I have looked into the eyes of Wal-Martians on Prozac and heard their cries – not for justice and freedom – but for a cheaper dozen waffles. I have heard their complaints – not for a living wage and the ability to organize their place of work – but rather, their petty grievances over “The Mexicans living on Welfare".

“The People” are stupid. They are also tired, beat down, beat up, underpaid, under-educated, and overmedicated. And they have a short attention span to the point of amnesia.

How do you deal with how the Proles have no Revolutionary Nature.

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I have a question to all people on leftypol.

If you are poor, why don't you become criminal and rob banks and sell drugs?

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Cockshott General 3.0: Chad Cybernetics Edition

For discussion related to Paul Cockshott's works, including Towards a New Socialism, and his youtube channel located at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVBfIU1_zO-P_R9keEGdDHQ

>Previous thread


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Paragon of virtue and principle honors enemy of the proletariat

I wish I was as awesome as Bernie. Glorifying war criminals is such a novel way to raise class consciousness and fight for the working class. Once the bourgeoisie realizes that socialists are all just nice people who will honor them regardless of their actions, I'm sure that they'll willingly give up their power and become one of us.

I say we should support Bernie in his glorious mission to bring world communism by making the bourgeoisie like us. I heard he's starting "Progressive International"! Wow, I'm sure this will inspire porkies all around the world to do some good and give the people sweet handouts!


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My OC drawing Thread

Just going to make another thread for my art since you guys enjoyed my last few drawings in the OC thread. I hope you all like my new drawings.

>Feels a little confident

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Stop Wall St activists

Saw their flyer if anyone is curious. They focus on economic disparity. Some good charts and graphs.

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Paris Yellow Vest standoff with riot police evokes centuries-old French revolutionary spirit



note that the police are now weilding rubber bullets and tear gas.

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News 12/1

George H.W. Bush, 41st president, dies at 94

George Herbert Walker Bush, the 41st president of the United States, whose long life in the public sphere was defined by service to his country, has died. He was 94.


260+ arrested in Paris unrest as thousands rally against Macron’s fuel reforms

Over 260 demonstrators were arrested as police faced off with Yellow Vest protesters in the French capital. Thousands rallied against Emmanuel Macron’s reforms on fuel prices and higher tax.

Prime Minister Edouard Philippe at first confirmed 107 arrests, while police and the Interior Ministry later put the number at over 260.


Iran navy launches stealth warship in the Gulf

Iran’s navy on Saturday launched a domestically made destroyer, which state media said has radar-evading stealth properties, as tensions rise with arch-enemy, the United States.In a ceremony carried live on state television, the Sahand destroyer — which can sustain voyages lasting five months without resupply — joined Iran’s regular navy at a base in Bandar Abbas on the Gulf.


Gorbachev praises Bush for political abilities, character

Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on Saturday expressed his “deep condolences” to the family of former U.S. President George H.W. Bush and all Americans following his death.Gorbachev worked closely with Bush to bring an end to the Cold War in the late 1980s and 1990s, and lauded the former president for his abilities as a politician and his personal character.


Police repression in Buenos Aires for G20: a dress-rehearsal for dictatorship

As the presidents of the Group of 20 nations (G20), representing the world’s top economies, were preparing to travel to their 13th economic summit in Buenos Aires, this weekend, Argentine authorities were in the process of rounding up and forcibly expelling homeless families who reside in downtown Buenos Aires.The violent expulsion of the homeless has been accompanied by naked repression and the suppression of democratic rights. Buenos Aires and federal officials are using the G20 meeting as a dress rehearsal for police-state measures appropriate to a military dictatorship.


'Neoliberalism Has Been a Calamity:' Mexico's AMLO Sworn In

After receiving the presidential sash in the Mexican Congress Saturday, Mexico’s President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador (AMLO) addressed the nation, delivering a strong condemnation of neoliberal economic policy. He also announced he will overturn the controversial education reform, prosecute abuses of state power and ban fracking.


G20 agreement backs 'rules-based' order but bows to Trump on trade reforms

World leaders have signed off on an agreement which reaffirms a basic commitment by the world’s biggest economies to multilateral trade and a “rules-based international order”, but bows to US demands for urgent reform of the World Trade Organisation (WTO).


A notorious recession signal is on the brink of crisis-era levels, and it’s proof Wall street is bracing for the next meltdown

There's been much ado about the stock market's malaise lately, but bond investors have long been sending cautionary signals of their own.A few months ago, investors became fixated on the yield curve. Specifically, the gap between yields on 2- and 10-year Treasury notes almost turned negative. The implication of a shrinking spread is that investors are demanding a higher premium for buying short-term bonds instead of long-term ones, which indicates their worry about the prospects for economic growth…


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what are some goooood, general news sites which aren't offensively liberal?

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Fugitive Venezuela Colonel Looks for Foreign Help to Oust Maduro

Propaganda warfare against Venezuela continues

A fugitive Venezuelan colonel said his band of retired and active officers seeking to oust President Nicolas Maduro is stepping up its efforts, making more public appeals and contacting regional governments for support.

Colonel Oswaldo Garcia Palomo, 54, who retired from the national guard and lives clandestinely abroad, in recent weeks has been issuing calls to the Venezuelan military to rise up. In an interview, he claimed responsibility for past rebellion attempts, and he detailed efforts to promote an insurrection to end the hyperinflation, corruption, hunger and lawlessness overseen by the socialist government.

“Our colleagues in Venezuela need to know that we’re working every day to combine international and national forces, and remove the government through the use of arms so the country doesn’t continue to bleed out and die,” he told Bloomberg News. The interview took place outside Venezuela; Bloomberg doesn’t know his current whereabouts.


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Everybody should know this guys work imo. You might not agree with some of his specifics but his method is the only future for Scientific Socialism.

Much better than Wolff.

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Anya Parampil: Ocasio-Cortez is a Progressive Fraud

Democrats ENRAGED! Angry commenting ensues calling Anya a Russian traitor etc.

>Anya Parampil puts incoming Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in question, explaining how as a candidate for the democratic nomination, she billed herself as a “socialist” and “progressive” which represented the next generation of the party—only to sell out upon winning office. Anya documents how Ocasio-Cortez has been embraced by corporate democrats, like DNC Chair Tom Perez, offered glowing praise for war-mongering Senator John McCain, and more recently, endorsed Nancy Pelosi for Speaker of the House. Daniel Haiphong, author of the upcoming book “American Exceptionalism and American Innocence”, joins Anya to discuss his recent contribution to the Black Agenda Report which accuses Ocasio-Cortez running a PR stunt to help Pelosi.


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Are you against subcultures?

Hi, are you against subcultures? Why/why not?

How to define a subculture? Is subculture existence a form of multiculturalism?

Please discuss.

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*UNLOCKED* TMBS - 66 - Full Postgame w/ Richard Wolff


>Full postgame for the November 27th edition of TMBS, usually exclusive to members, featuring Richard Wolff (@profwolff)

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What does /leftypol/ think of Citizen Smith? is it redpilled on class? Or is it reactionary BS?

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so how many more years will boomers still be alive, taking into account all the medical advances that will be made by the time the youngest are in their 90s? I'm not sure how much more time I can spend on the planet with these people

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Name ONE (1) revolution that didn't turn into a totalitarian oligarchy.

Why does this happen, /leftypol/? How can you make sure your revolution doesn't degenerate into a stalinist dystopia?

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Trump and China declare 90-day truce on new tariffs

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) — The United States and China reached a 90-day ceasefire in a trade dispute that has rattled financial markets and threatened world economic growth. The breakthrough came after a dinner meeting Saturday between President Donald Trump and Chinese leader Xi Jinping at the Group of 20 summit in Buenos Aires.


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Is this board about authoritarian left (one with squares 1 and 2 and etc…), libertarian left ( 23, 29 and etc….) or both or just center left (12, 11, 6, 1, 17)

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Is Stalin worth reading?

Is Stalin a revolutionary worth reading? If so, which of his works do you recommend?

Was he just an evil dictator, /leftypol/, or an unsung hero of the great communist cause?

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Maoist Third Worldist Analysis of Interracial Cuckold Porn

The revolutionary analysis of decadent bourgeois culture has revealed certain pornographic tendencies to be highly progressive. We are speaking, of course, about so-called "interracial cuckold porn." This porn consists of a scenario in which a bourgeois male ameriKKKA labor aristocrat is forced to watch his female property (wife) be raped (liberated) by a Black, ghetto, Lumpenproletarian.

How is this progressive, you may ask? To be sure, interracial cuckold porn promotes hyper-sexualized racial stereotypes about African men, and even seems to encourage rape as a positive phenomenon enjoyed by women. However, a genuine Marxist analysis looks deeper.

Interracial cuckold porn is, in fact, entirely revolutionary. Cuckold porn is revolutionary because it attacks white male patriarchal capitalist supremacism at its psycho-sexual roots. Cuckold porn psychologically prepares the white bourgeois male for his own destruction and expropriation at the hands of Maoist Third Worldist liberation forces. Just as the white labor aristocratic bourgeoisie of the First World should bow and surrender its property to the revolutionary Third World proletariat, so the cuckolded white male should kneel and watch his female property (wife) be ravaged by Big Black Cock, which is her own secret desire for liberation.

The white master who raped and enslaved colonial peoples for centuries is now – in the age of Maoist Third Worldism – himself raped and enslaved. This is the progressive revolutionary message spread by popular artists like Candy Monroe and "Black Dicks White Chicks."

Maoist Third Worldists realize that such revolutionary opinions as ours may frighten and alarm petite bourgeois-minded labor aristocrats watching this in ameriKKKa. The feelings and sentimental sensibilities of such counterrevolutionaries are not our concern.

We hope that all revolutionary people are inspired by our analysis of interracial cuckold porn, and will watch more of it for themselves in order to uphold and deepen its revolutionary potential.


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Self-inflicted nuclear bombing

Why wouldn't the capitalists just give the order to nuke their own countries and exterminate the entire population, if they ever lost their control to a leftist revolt?

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Looks like 4/pol/ is flirting with class consciousness. Perhaps we can steer them on the correct path.

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AMLO thread

Do you think he can change anything in his country?

Will America "liberate" Mexico?

Will he manage to put an end to the drug war?

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Requesting real life pictures of the alt-right and kekistan? Thank you…..

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Can we get a celebration thread going /leftypol/? He finally kicked the bucket!

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Stallman did nothing wrong

Is he /ourguy/? He looks pretty commie and anarchistic (I know he has page in which he explain why he isn't an anarchist but its based on false assumptions about anarchism). So, what do you think?

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Whats your opinion on saying nigger? In my opinion it's literally nothing and I agree with pic related. Its not attitude that causes oppression and bigotry, it's capitalism. All this effort used to out people for saying nigger could be used in helping to dismantle capitalism. Being against the use of the word nigger is literally ethical consumption.

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Stop this gender shit

A 6-year-old boy from Texas is caught in two wars—one between separated and feuding parents, and another between changing concepts in psychology.

James, biologically male, is allegedly forced to wear girls clothes when in the custody of his mother. His mother has even enrolled him in the first grade under the name “Luna.” His mother has insisted that he dress like a girl since he was 3 years old.

When James is in the custody of his father, he is asked to choose what clothes he prefers. And he invariably chooses boy’s clothing.

James’ mother took her son to a female gender transition therapist when he was younger. The therapist, who specializes in helping children live with a sexual identity different from their physical genders, diagnosed James with gender dysphoria.

However, friends of the family told Walt Heyer in a publication for the Federalist that James only identifies as a girl when his mother is present. When James is with his father, he consistently identifies as a boy.

It is time to end this gender shit

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Enver Hoxha

What was he actually like memes aside? Any Albanians here to tell us what the public opinion of him is? According to most Albanians I've talked to his government tortured and killed a shit load of people.

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modern imperialism

"There’s a narrative out there that poor countries are basically effectively catching up to rich countries, right? Because we know that, there’s China and they’re becoming a powerful player in the world stage and so on. And we’re seeing people lift out of poverty in China and India also, a booming tech industry and whatnot. So clearly the gap between the rich and the poor on the global stage is shrinking. This is the dominant narrative we have. And unfortunately it’s simply not true. There was a period when that gap was shrinking, in the immediate postcolonial decades in the 1960s and the 1970s when newly independent governments were rolling out progressive economic reforms using Keynesian policy, protecting their economies with tariffs, using subsidies to promote infant industry developments, etcetera, etcetera. And using land reform and labor laws to improve wages and so on. But these policies turned out to be a threat to Global North investors. Which, during the colonial years had enjoyed really easy access to cheap labor and raw materials and so on in those countries. And that was being cut off. And so they responded during the 1980s and 1990s by rolling back those progressive policies through structural adjustments imposed by the World Bank and the IMF, right? Which basically forced Global South countries to privatize public assets, to get rid of tariff barriers and subsidies, to cut spending on education and healthcare. Like all of the crucial elements necessary for real developments were basically denied to Global South countries. The vast majority of them at least. So that’s not true of East Asia and in China, and as a consequence, that region of the world did remarkably well, but what we see in the rest of the world is that the per capita income gap between the Global North and the Global South has tripled since 1960 in real terms and shows no sign of slowing down. I mean, there’s basically been, on per capita level, virtually stagnation in the Global South since the 1980s. And that’s, you know, that’s really not part of our narrative and that’s something that is a structural consequence of the way that the economy was organized during those decades."

"The dominant narrative development is that rich countries became rich kind of by their own hard work, their good institutions, their scientific inventions and so on, and poor countries are poor and remain poor because they have whatever bad governance or corruption, or maybe they’re lazy or have backwards cultural values in the more racist sense of the narrative, etcetera. But the idea is that rich countries, because they have this surplus, they’re able to sort of reach across the divide and give generously of their surplus to help poor countries up the development ladder. What I argue is that this narrative gets virtually everything about the story wrong. First of all, the determinants of success and failure in various countries around the world can’t be entirely attributed to only internal conditions, right? We live in a global economic system.

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EU Politics General

Thought it may be worth having one of these, with brexit coming to a close and V A R O U heading to Brussels.

For context on Varoufakis, he is put at the head of an electoral list in Germany, with Germany still not having any minimum requirements he could be elected with 1/94th; aka 1.06%, of the vote.

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Why did the US bomb Iraq after the Gulf War ?

Why did Bill Clinton keep on bombing Iraq after the Gulf War (don't tell me it was because of the plot to kill Bush, that's been debunked as a false flag). Iraqi oil made up 3% of US oil consumption at the time of the Iraq war it decreased further from there.I assume people are going to talk about how Iraq switched to Euros for Iraqi oil in Nov 2000, threatening the petrodollar. That doesn't explain why Clinton did it though. Was there some larger geo-political project going on here?

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ITT: songs/albums about capital A Alienation


Operation Mindcrime is about a "guy" who suffers from alienation under capitalism, and turns to a life of crime as the system is inherently unjust.

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>Three academics are launching a new journal in which arguments can be made anonymously. But is separating ideas from their authors the best way forward?

Look some professors just invented image boards

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Salvēte, amicī!

Vidētisne hunc servum (in meā imāgine)? Hic dīxit nobis Rōmānīs: "Nōn volumus servī esse!" Estne hic homō īnsānus?!


Tū, Spartace, vīs tōtōs hominēs PAUPERĒS facere! REEEEEEEEE

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name one thing better than bashing in the head of a capitalist with a brick while singing the japanese internationale

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Share aesthetic pics of the People's Republic of Albania, insightful facts and resources about life there, etc.

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So did the Soviets make strategic mistake by winning WW2? As America is the country with dominant geological position and the cold war led them to suppress communism by backing nazis. We'd have so much better chances to take over when the capitalism collapses itself with state funding.

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Marxian Economic Theory

This is a thread for brainlets to ask questions about the technical details of Marxian economic theory - LTV, falling rate of profit, primitive accumulation, etc.

Starter video explaining Marx's theory of crisis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e8rt8RGjCM

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The american education system is hilarious. We're learning about world religions and I was handed this.

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Asking for a meme template

I'm running a non-🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧anglo🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 communist meme site and I'm looking for a meme template that is divided into three vertical sections:

1. some dude sliding in from the right to a group of people, in his hand a paper

2. the group of people point to counter-evidence

3. he fails off

(pic related is my desperate attempt at recreating this shit)

If my question is answered, I ask the mods to delete this single-issue thread. (hopefully within 5 minutes)

Thank you for helping me. I'll be reporting this thread after I get my answer!

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GETchan press release

>GETchan-Bunkerchan merger confirmed! This weekend we will be moving /GET/ and /ref/ over to Bunkerchan, where we will decide on a new name for the site. GETchan will still exist, but as a subdivision of the new site. The Bunkerchan staff will have their boards and we will have ours. As a compromise, our /pol/ board will not be moved over and they will retain control over the political boards. In turn, they will delete /dprk/, their random board, and /GET/ will be the sole random board. This is a huge step forward for both chans!

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Kim Yong Nam meeting with Nicolas Maduro Moros

Talks Held between Kim Yong Nam and Nicolas Maduro Moros

Pyongyang, November 30 (KCNA) – There were talks between Kim Yong Nam, president of the Presidium of the Supreme People's Assembly of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, and Nicolas Maduro Moros, president of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela, on Tuesday afternoon at the Presidential Palace of Venezuela. Kim Yong Nam is heading a DPRK delegation on an official visit to Venezuela.

Kim Yong Nam said that the relations between the DPRK and Venezuela are developing into the ones of true and close friends and firm comrades, adding that the struggle of the Venezuelan people for independence against imperialism, for peace against war and for socialism will dynamically advance.

The Venezuelan president sincerely wished Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un good health, and hoped that he would victoriously guide the Korean people. He also expressed belief that the friendly and cooperative relations between the two countries would develop with stronger vitality in the future, too.

Opinions on the issues of developing the bilateral friendly and cooperative relations and the non-aligned movement and other issues of mutual concern were exchanged at the talks.

Present there from the DPRK side were Pak Thae Song, vice-chairman of the Central Committee of the Workers' Party of Korea, Ho Yong Bok, vice-minister of Foreign Affairs, and other members of the DPRK delegation, and DPRK Ambassador to Venezuela Ri Sung Gil, and from the Venezuelan side were Foreign Minister of People's Power Jorge Alberto Arreaza Montserrat, Tania Dias, vice-chairperson of the United Socialist Party of Venezuela and first vice-president of the National Constituent Assembly, and other officials concerned.

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Have you ever considered the possibility that sub-saharan Africa isn't a complete shithole because of white people but because blacks have literally the mental capacity of toddlers and small children?

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I was at a counterprotest today, in opposition to a right-wing protest against 'left-wing media bias'.


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News 11/30

Koreas survey North’s railways in hopes of joining networks

A South Korean train rolled into North Korea for the first time in a decade on Friday as the countries began joint surveys on northern railway sections they hope someday to connect with the South.The weekslong inspections represent one of the most significant goodwill gestures between the Koreas in past months as they push ahead with engagement amid a stalemate in larger negotiations between Washington and Pyongyang to resolve the nuclear standoff.


Farmers Throng India's Capital, Demanding Higher Crop Prices, Debt Relief

Tens of thousands of farmers from across India took to streets of the capital on Friday, demanding relief from debt, higher prices for their produce and a special session of parliament dedicated to their needs.Friday's rally in New Delhi may be the biggest demonstration so far of frustration with Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his ruling Bharatiya Janata Party, or BJP.


Global temperatures on track for 3-5 degree rise by 2100: U.N.

“Greenhouse gas concentrations are once again at record levels and if the current trend continues we may see temperature increases 3-5 degrees C by the end of the century,” Secretary-General Petteri Taalas said in the WMO’s annual statement on the state of the climate.“If we exploit all known fossil fuel resources, the temperature rise will be considerably higher.”


Arrests, water cannon & a burning car: Yellow Vest protests spread to Brussels

France's ‘Yellow Vest’ protests have now made their way to Belgium, with demonstrators in Brussels calling on the prime minister to resign. Some threw rocks and firecrackers at officers, prompting them to deploy water cannons.Crowds of people protesting fuel prices and living standards disrupted traffic and walked the streets for around three hours on Friday.


Left Party publications denounce protest movement in France

Anyone wishing to know how the Left Party and its trade union and pseudo-left milieu would react to a social uprising in Germany has only to take a look at what the newspapers in solidarity with the party have to say about the demonstrations against the Macron government in France.


Progressive International to Be Launched at Sanders Institute

Bernie Sanders, Naomi Klein, Cornel West, and Yanis Varoufakis are some of the 250 leading progressives convening at The Sanders Institute Gathering in Vermont, United States. In the event, Sanders and Varoufakis will launch the Progressive International, “a grassroots movement for social justice.”


Handful of caravan migrants launch hunger strike at U.S. border

A handful of the thousands of Central American migrants camped out at the U.S.-Mexican border waiting to plead their case for asylum in the United States launched a hunger strike on Thursday to protest the Mexican police blocking their way.


Laura Loomer, a far-right activist who tweeted anti-Muslim remarks about Minnesota Rep.-elect Ilhan Omar, handcuffed herself to Twitter's headquarters after the company kicked her off the platform

In response to getting kicked off Twitter, far-right activist Laura Loomer chained herself to the platform's Manhattan headquarters on Thursday.Livestream video posted to Periscope captured Loomer handcuffed to the glass doors leading into the headquarters. It didn't take long before a crowd and police gathered and the street was closed off.At its peak, the Periscope livestream had almost 10,000 viewers…


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Mao and Maoism

Lets have a Mao thread. Was he a great Revolutionary and philosopher who led China to the light? Or was he a crypto-Anarchist petit-boug opportunist? Is Maoism a crucial next step in the development of Marxism? Or is it an idealist cult-creed, the 'militant wing of identity politics'? Lets hear it from all sides.

Personally i'm liking Maoism more and more, but it has to be creatively adapted and improved of course.

I recommend Zizeks text 'The Marxist Lord of Misrule' http://www.lacan.com/zizmaozedong.htm

>So, apropos the second violent transposition, that of Mao, it is too short either to condemn his reinvention of Marxism as theoretically "inadequate," as a regression with regard to Marx's standards (it is easy to show that peasants lack the substanceless proletarian subjectivity), but it is no less too short to blur the violence of the cut and to accept Mao's reinvention as a logical continuation or "application" of Marxism (relying, as is usually the case, on the simple metaphoric expansion of class struggle: "today's predominant class struggle is no longer between capitalists and proletariat in each country, it shifted to the Third versus the First World, bourgeois versus proletarian nations"). The achievement of Mao is here tremendous: his name stands for the political mobilization of the hundreds of millions of anonymous Third World population whose chores provide the invisible "substance," background, of historical development - the mobilization of all those which even such a poet of "otherness" as Levinas dismissed as "yellow peril" - see, from what is arguably his weirdest text, "The Russo-Chinese Debate and the Dialectic" (1960), a comment on the Soviet-Chinese conflict:

>The yellow peril! It is not racial, it is spiritual. It does not involve inferior values; it involves a radical strangeness, a stranger to the weight of its past, from where there does not filter any familiar voice or inflection, a lunar or Martian past.

>The radical abandonment of this model occurred only with Mao, for whom the proletarian revolution should take place in the less developed part of the world, among the large crowds of the Third World impoverished peasants, workers and even "patriotic bourgeoisie," who are exposed to the aftershocks of the capitalist globalization, organizing their rage and despair. In a total reversal (perversion even) of the Marx's model, the class struggle is thus reformulated as the struggle between the First World "bourgeois nations" and the Third World "proletarian nations." The paradox here is properly dialectical, perhaps in the ultimate application of Mao's teaching on contradictions: its very underdevelopment (and thus "un-ripeness" for the revolution) makes a country "ripe" for the revolution. Since, however, such "unripe" economic conditions do not allow the construction of properly post-capitalist socialism, the necessary correlate is the assertion of the "primacy of politics over economy": the victorious revolutionary subject doesn't act as an instrument of economic necessity, liberating its potentials whose further development is thwarted by capitalist contradictions; it is rather a voluntarist agent which acts AGAINST "spontaneous" economic necessity, enforcing its vision on reality through revolutionary terror.

>This is Mao's key point: the principal (universal) contradiction does not overlap with the contradiction which should be treated as dominant in a particular situation - the universal dimension literally resides in this particular contradiction. In each concrete situation, a different "particular" contradiction is the predominant one, in the precise sense that, in order to win the fight for the resolution of the principal contradiction, one should treat a particular contradiction as the predominant one, to which all other struggles should be subordinated. In China under the Japanese occupation, the patriotic unity against the Japanese was the predominant thing if Communists wanted to win the class struggle - any direct focusing on class struggle in THESE conditions went against class struggle itself. (Therein, perhaps, resides the main feature of "dogmatic opportunism": to insist on the centrality of the principal contradiction at a wrong moment.)

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Progressive International


Bernie Sanders and Yanis Varoufakis have just now launched a "grassroots movement for global justice" to combat the rise of right wing factions around the world. Thoughts? Can this go anywhere or not go far enough?

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I want to learn more about the Frankfurt school, New Left and what pol would call "cultural marxism."

Can I just jump right in to what looks interesting or do I need to read them in some sort of order?

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Reactionaries triggered

I was saddened to see that we generally had no active thread of making fun of stereotypical reactionaries, capitalists, and conservitards. Twitter is full of them, and god help you if you take a look at the YouTube comments.

They're comedy goldmines, but I also propose a drinking game:

Go to one of these Twitter posts, click on the likes, and keep scrolling down. Take a shot every time you see an American flag, #MAGA, #2A, a fat white person in the profile pic, a confederate flag, etc.

The images are related. Laura Loomer was banned for being edgy and all her edgy fans, who love identity politics, are throwing a hissy fit about muh left.

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Crisis in the Kremlin thread: NATO gets smacked by the Warsaw Pact edition

It's that time again Comrades, Lenin is young, and new October is coming.

Normal difficulty, 1985 start.

Who will the politburo elect as General Secretary?

Grigory Romanov, Adropov's steadfast protege within the party leadership?

Mikhail Gorbachev, the rising star of the party?

Victor Grishin, an unlikely but ambitious hardliner and close supporter of Chernenko?

Or the longstanding, if unambitious, party grandee Andrey Gromyko?

Or perhaps the politburo sees another, more appropriate candidate to lead the Party in this difficult time for the Union.

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Protestant extremism

Hey guys, I’ve noticed a trend where the new word for Protestant extremism is now “Evangelicalism”. I think this is a mistake. Relatively moderate or even liberal Protestant denominations are technically “Evangelical”, like the Methodist and Lutheran churches. I don’t know why we drifted away from Fundamentalism to this, Fundamentalism actually referred to hardline Protestant positions, but I don’t think even that was quite adequate because it refers mostly to largely dying traditions like the Southern Baptists. I think these days you’re looking at three tendencies with a good degree of overlap.

1) Pentecostalism. You already know what this is even if you haven’t heard the term before. These are the guys who handle snakes, speak in tongues, drink (highly diluted) poison, dance around in the church while the preacher yells and casts out demons from the crowd. There’s a name for all those crazy churches you may have seen in internet videos and documentaries, and it’s “Pentecostal”

2) Premillennial dispensationalists. The Protestant Zionists. Basically a doomsday cult trying to reinact their interpretation of the events of the book interpretation of the events of the Book of Revelation and bring about the apocalypse.

3) Prosperity Theology. These guys believe that material wealth is a sign of God’s favor. Very often, this is the theology of megachurches and televangelists. Very often claim that by donating to their church your financial woes will end. In relatively recent times, some of them have doubled down and advocate for what is essentially capitalist neo-feudalism in the form of “Dominionism”. A lot of the preachers associated with this tendency have been exposed as out-and-out con artists (eg - Robert Tilton, Peter Popoff)

We need a term for this particular tendency, and that word isn’t “Evangelical”. Especially considering that it’s now being exported out of the United States and promoting far-right politics across the globe, and thus needs to be directly combatted and suppressed.

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Is Ephemeral Rift /OURGUY/?

In his newest communist asmr he uses a real ak47. He’s also anprim gang and doesn’t monetize his vids.

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Hey, a few weeks ago I posted about being a former fascist who had lost faith in their beliefs and was looking for reading material. I have since that post read some of Marx and Engels works and have just finished State and revolution by Lenin. I am convinced that the theory of Marxism can secure a future for all people regardless of race through class unity against the bourgeoisie and that a dictatorship of the proletariat with the means of production in their hands can achieve Communism. But please, tell me that r/communism and their ilk aren't representative of the modern movement? it just seems like a massive bash whitey and focus on minuscule issues movement. These people are complaining, rightfully so, about the injustices of the modern world and that is fine. But seeing people talking about white people as being "not really proletarians" and other things seems bullshit to me and not too dissimilar from the Fascistic dogma that I have left. they are racists and they don't realize it.

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Christianity and Fascism

What's your opinion on the link between Christianity and fascism?

I've been exploring religion and spirituality a lot, and recently I've turned my attention to Christianity. Specifically Quakerism. I think Quaker views of society and morality are beautiful and useful.

However, I have found Christianity's approach to evil very troubling. The approach, especially in Catholicism, is that all evil comes from the devil, and as a Christian, you have to fight the devil, and evil by extension.

The problem with this is that it externalizes evil and badness, instead of taking responsibility for it. Instead of taking responsibility for their own actions, they scapegoat the devil.

Since the devil is fictional, this isn't normally a problem. However, it's very easy to associate any out-group with the devil, and with evil. Doing so dehumanizes them. That outgroup can be anyone from immigrants, to Muslims, to Jews, to blacks.

The Christian approach to evil is basically the exact opposite of the Buddhist approach, in which you take responsibility for your own destructive impulses and learn to ignore them in favor of constructive ones. I think this is a much healthier approach, especially the Zen version. Obviously Buddhism has its own disturbing flirtations with fascism, historically in imperial Japan, and now in countries like Myanmar and Sri Lanka. But I'd say they're doing it wrong.

Given Christianity's impulse to blame evil on outside sources, its historical connection to fascism, and the current Christian nationalist movement within the "alt right" make a lot of sense.

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Exploitation (according to the Cambridge Companion to Marx)

>This claim [that capitalism is inherently based on exploitation] is surprisingly hard to interpret. Although Marx believes that capitalism is inherently exploitative, he argues explicitly against the view that the worker is paid less than the value of the labor power sold in the typical wage bargain. Marx does think that profit depends on surplus value, the difference between the time typically spent by a worker producing the commodity in question and the value of that amount of labor power. But the existence of surplus value is no more of a sign that someone has been sold short than is the existence of a difference between the value of what a rented horse contributes and the value of the rent paid for the use of that horse (Marx and Engels, 20/1985: 130). Indeed, it is part of Marx's theory of value that a day's work is paid at its value as long as the wage basket sustains a worker for a day at the customary level of subsistence. Even though this bargain must usually generate surplus value in a viable capitalist economy, workers and capitalists "exchange equivalent for equivalent" (Marx, 1977: 280).

>Why does Marx persist, nonetheless, in seeing the relation between capitalists and workers as exploitative in a pejorative sense? Marx's analysis of "the tendency of things" in the capitalist labor market may be a start in answering this question, which has been an important topic in recent discussions of Marx's concept of exploitation; see also Cohen (1979), Roemer (1985), and Holmstrom (1977). Marx argues that if workers were to respect the officially sanctioned rules for the pursuit of economic well-being, superior resources of capitalists would lead to the extraction of the maximum surplus compatible with survival. Doing better requires risky disruptive activity from many workers and generally yields nothing better than the satisfaction of needs. In rough summary, typical inequalities in the background of wage bargaining make it a fight to do more than survive, and so they limit the fruits of this fight to necessities. A system that regulates the outcome of class location in this way could surely be called exploitative in a pejorative sense even if no one were cheated and even if equivalent were exchanged for equivalent in the central economic act.

t. Richard W. Miller