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/leftypol/ reading list




^^^Absolute beginner material^^^

More Marx and Engels:




Other Selected Marxists


Classical Works Recommended To High-Ranking Cadres


Many important books can be found on libgen:


Libcom is run by a liberal retard, but you can search it for some good books/documents:


Other links:


Various assortment of historical and biographical works.


Original post content:

>Honeybees make decisions collectively–and democratically. Every year, faced with the life-or-death problem of choosing and traveling to a new home, honeybees stake everything on a process that includes collective fact-finding, vigorous debate, and consensus building. In fact, as world-renowned animal behaviorist Thomas Seeley reveals, these incredible insects have much to teach us when it comes to collective wisdom and effective decision making. A remarkable and richly illustrated account of scientific discovery, Honeybee Democracy brings together, for the first time, decades of Seeley's pioneering research to tell the amazing story of house hunting and democratic debate among the honeybees.

>In the late spring and early summer, as a bee colony becomes overcrowded, a third of the hive stays behind and rears a new queen, while a swarm of thousands departs with the old queen to produce a daughter colony. Seeley describes how these bees evaluate potential nest sites, advertise their discoveries to one another, engage in open deliberation, choose a final site, and navigate together–as a swirling cloud of bees–to their new home. Seeley investigates how evolution has honed the decision-making methods of honeybees over millions of years, and he considers similarities between the ways that bee swarms and primate brains process information. He concludes that what works well for bees can also work well for people: any decision-making group should consist of individuals with shared interests and mutual respect, a leader's influence should be minimized, debate should be relied upon, diverse solutions should be sought, and the majority should be counted on for a dependable resolution.

>An impressive exploration of animal behavior, Honeybee Democracy shows that decision-making groups, whether honeybee or human, can be smarter than even the smartest individuals in them.

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>How can you call yourselves leftist politically incorrect?

/leftypol/ posters are allowed to voice opinions that offend liberals, SJWs, and so on. All sects on the left are allowed to post on /leftypol/, leading to plenty of fighting and shitflinging between leftists, which other forums might ban. However, this was only a minor consideration in the naming of /leftypol/. Since the concept is simply a leftist version of /pol/, the entire name of /pol/ was retained.

>I'm not a leftist can I post here?

Non-leftists can come here to ask questions. Board moderation here is more focused on maintaining a good board index, so non-leftists have to be on better behavior as OP than they do as participants in someone else's thread. If you aren't b8ing or shitposting, your thread is likely to stay up.

>Are you liberals? Are you SJWs? Do you like Clinton? Are you all Zionists???

No liberals here. We hate the Democrat party.

As for Israel, leftism is anti-Zionist. It is not anti-Jew. Unlike /pol/, /leftypol/ fully supports Palestinians, and doesn't think they're "mudslimes."

Pretending to be an SJW or Zionist will very likely get you banned.

>Why did you leave /pol/ and why does this board exist?

/leftypol/ exists to help the 8chan community focus on leftist topics without being slid or flooded to death.

>Do you support gun control?

While posters on /leftypol/ have varying stances on gun control (training requirements, mental health checks, etc.), they are overwhelmingly in favor of arming the proletariat.

>Do you support "national" socialism?





-post cuckshit, "commies BTFO," or any of that kind of shit

-post any porn depicting underage (including drawings)

-deny the problems of climate change or imperialism

-attempt to cloak reactionary politics in left-wing rhetoric (Strasserism, "Nazbol" Strasserism, National "Socialism," Zionism, "Die cis scum"/"Kill all white men" SJW shit)

-voice support for NATO intervention, or explicitly state that you support imperialism in any context

-incite specific acts of terrorism or similar acts (use your head, don't act like a fed)


-be respectful, ask questions, and know your place if you're a reactionary

-feel free to flame, shitpost, and be sectarian if you are a leftist (just keep it somewhat within reason)

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If you still think that in 2018, vaporwave is a "postmodern critique of hauntology and capitalism" or some bullshit like that, you are in complete denial. Vaporwave has done more to fuel hauntology than any other concept simply because it leaves a sense of nostalgia in the average listener, not a sense of skepticism towards consumer culture. Just go outside and you might see the "A E S T H E T I C S" of vaporwave being used in corporate decoration, advertisements and overall as expressions of capitalism, and it's only going to become more commonplace over time. I've seen many videos of Youtube "philosophers" trying to prove that vaporwave is a brilliant leftist smackdown on capitalism but they're all extremely pretentious due to the fact that they simply point out things that nobody other than ivory tower pseudo-intellectuals like themselves would give a fuck about when listening to the actual music simply because 99.9% of people listen to music because it sounds good to them, not to analyze every note of it and find a hidden meaning. Literally no average person who hears a vaporwave song will think about how soulless capitalism is and rile them up for revolution, in fact it is more of a sedative as people seem to listen to it more to calm down, further evidenced by how it popularized the "chill music" trend. Vaporwave originally set out to critique the flawed way we viewed past decades, but has instead encouraged this way of thought by many magnitudes, just look at synthwave/outrun and the general portrayal of retro media nowadays.

Vaporwave is the prime example of why irony as a means of critique almost certainly is guaranteed to backfire by the end of the day. It works in smaller groups where the context is a lot more obvious, but when it eventually reaches other people that context will get lost extremely fast. There are countless examples of irony backfiring, but vaporwave is by far the most far-reaching one. Irony is not even a double edged sword, it is a gun pointing back towards the shooter, and is unfortunately the absolute favorite weapon of the western internet left these days it seems.

(btw it sounds like dogshit)

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Is Bernie a controlled opposition?

>He opposed the 2003 invasion of Iraq, but voted repeatedly to fund the occupation afterwards.

>In August 2014 he voted to give Israel "emergency" weapons shipments so they wouldn't run out of bombs, since they were dropping so many of them on the civilians in Gaza.

>In 1999 Bernie voted to bomb Yugoslavia.

And most importantly

>He shilled for Hillary in 2016 after he lost and campaigned against Jill Stein

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ooga booga communism rulez dude middle-classwyte pll r da problem all wyte pll r rayciss sexiss cis scum working class rules muhfugga anything i disagree r automatically a capitalist i love communism nigga i love watching cuckold porn on blacked.com i let a black man fuck my woman i love marx im gay for him i want to suck his dick stalin dindu nuffin im gay and i love dicks im a non-binary transgender muhfugga ooga booga i love communism i love feminism i worship sluts i love fun i love bbc you a rayciss cis scum muh wyte privelege muh patriacy go back to pol nazis communism iz cool dog u trippin i love communism nigga

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/leftytrash/: Once More

ITT: movies, anime, music, feels, e-celebs, internet drama, fetishes, shitposting, etc.

This is a voluntary thread that users can choose to post in, if… I forgot the rest of whatever the old OP was. Honestly, I just wanted to bring this old thread back.

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How should leftists actually go about organizing in America? I've noticed growing fascist sentiment in my part of the country (the midwest) and I feel with the Overton window being as far to the right as it is it's important for leftists to start seriously organizing

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How JUST is he?

>Probably going to jail over fucking other porkies

>SpaceX is on the brink of collapsing

>failing to get investors for Tesla

>tweeted about selling tesla thongs on acid

>got exposed as an beta male on Instagram

He's gonna kill himself soon right?

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Retweet for solidarity against LBPD twitter dot com slash Leon__Thotsky slash St slash 1030227347406872577?s=19

I guess I need 100 characters or whatever so fuck cops

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Retweet for solidarity against LBPD


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Retweet for solidarity against LBPD twitter dot com/Leon__Thotsky/status/1030227347406872577?s=19

I guess I need 100 characters or whatever so fuck cops

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21st century stalin

Are we ever gonna start seeing Stalin apologists getting some electoral success? Or perhaps a 21st century stalin?

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DOW Crashing

How can a lefty exploit this to their advantage? Is it too soon to try? DOW down about 1000 points since Thursday.


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ITT we post our favourite /ourguys/

Truly comrade Jimmy will lead the international workers revolution.

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Books and theory

So, /leftypol/, what are you reading? What's on your to read list? Do you have stack of books to read?

Right now I'm reading The Capital, much easier and better than I expected, the first section is not as hard as people say.

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Legitimate criticism of the MeToo movement

Whats your criticism of the MeToo movement from a leftist/Marxist perspective?

I think for me, one of the most obvious criticism of the movement is the fact that most of the prominent Metoo activists rarely highlighted the power difference between the male perpetrators and female victims, and how it played a role in the abuse of these women.

The vast majority of the abuse came from male perpetrators who were able to use their economic power or connections to perpetuate abuse for decades, whilst being protected by their bourgeois establishment . The movement has degenerated into blaming powerless prole men for the abuse committed by those on top of the economic hierarchy.

They seem to be willfully ignoring the economic factors that enabled serial sexual abusers , and how bourgeoisie institutions would protect the abusers.

Most male proles who are serial sexually abusers are in prison because they dont have institutional protection like bourgeois men, and society is sensitive to the suffering of prole women under the hands of prole men.

By failing to differentiate how bourgeoisie men have exploited the power perks of capitalism to perpetuate abuse against powerless women and men, they worsen the gender divide among prole men and women whilst never addressing the underlying factors which has enabled a culture of complicity and abuse to fester among the bourgeoisie.

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/leftybritpol/ - No deal edition

It's all over but the crying, but nobody's crying but me.

Legit though, this shit is getting worrying, we're gonna be forced between Mad Max tier shit and being a permanant EU cuckstate with Tommy Robinson running around as "the people's champion". We need an election lads.

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Why do some capitalists push SJW stuff in a market where most of their consumers out right reject it?

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Samir Amin (Arabic: ‎) (3 September 1931 – 12 August 2018) was an Egyptian-French Marxian economist.

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>muh capital

The fundamental conflict in capitalist society is not between the working class and capital, but between the local community and the centralized, oppressive, state. I do not advocate uprisings which would throw up revolutionary assemblies, as in the French revolution. Instead, I propose that citizens peacefully and legally create mass assemblies at the level of villages, townships, and city neighborhoods. With the aim of making these assemblies official, we would run in local elections. There, we would seek to take over town councils and similar bodies. We would try to change city and township charters, in order to replace the existing city, town, village, and neighborhood governments with popular assemblies. As much as possible, we would try to take over local businesses and industries, to “municipalize” the economy. This would lay the basis for a libertarian (lower case “c”) communism.

As more localities were transformed into communal assemblies, they will associate with each other, beginning to form an overall confederation. (However, they shoult not try to take over state-wide or national governments by elections - e.g. more statist reformism.) These spreading communal entities would undermine the state and capitalism. At some point, the state and capitalist class would try to stop the process. There would be a clash, nonviolent or violent, depending on circumstances.

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I know that ⛏️rotsky was a butthurt traitor and modern Trots tend to be insane, but what are some criticisms of ⛏️rotskyism on a theoretical level? I haven't read him yet but permanent revolution seems like a fine concept.

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Vuukle supports Alex Jones hate speech

Alex Jones' hate sites, the most well-known being Infowars.com, had its various accounts banned in one proud gesture of global unity against the voices of hatred, and among those accounts was his Disqus account(s). He has since moved to Vuukle. Let your voice be heard:


+1 209 732 0020




For any assistance.

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American politics general

Figured I'd make this thread so we can get some containment instead of a new thread for every Trump tweet or state election.

I might start bumplocking threads related to american politics and redirect people here but don't expect any bans or deletions. If it's significant and/or affects the rest of the world feel free to make a thread for it instead of containing it here.


- Real political developments in America (spontaneous uprisings like Ferguson, major laws being passed, developments in non-electoral politics, crimes of the police, the bourgeoisie, etc) totally allowed outside this thread, no bump lock

- "DRUMPF SAYS [inconsequential thing]," bumplock, it belongs in this thread. If he does or says something actually important, like the DPRK stuff, no bumplock. Err on the side of caution, but also prefer threads that focus on the proletarian or realistic side of the story rather than acting like Trump actually runs things.

- "Republican/democrat candidate says thing" also bumplocked, belongs in this thread. These candidates say all sorts of shit that never results in anything real happening. If it's really consequential, it can have its own thread.

- Threads shilling these absolute dogshit Democrat Cops of America candidates (or Green, Democrat, or any other liberals) get bumplocked, threads exposing their lies and treachery don't get bumplocked, but still belong in one thread. Shilling socdems isn't banned in these threads, but doesn't deserve an OP.

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>Sends white men in own country to die in pointless conflict

>Rapes, pillages and butchers fellow European whites in other countries, en masse

>Reduces large swathes of European land to smoking craters

>Makes all European identity permanently taboo and forever associated with genocidal psychopaths

>A bunch of retards on the Internet whiteknight for you endlessly some decades later, continuously spamming some stupid meme that you were "pro-white" and your ideology and practices are the answer to white people's problems

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Cockshott General 2.0

For discussion related to Paul Cockshott's works, including his youtube channel located at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVBfIU1_zO-P_R9keEGdDHQ

>Previous thread


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Law of Value and Wages

I am trying to better understand the details of Marxian economics and I wondered how in particular do fundamentally different wages arise. I understand that the value of labor-power is generally equal to the cost of its reproduction (subsistence, human reproduction, training, education, …), and that this cost can change also through class struggle (that determines the living standards of the proletariat and the rate of profit of the bourgeoisie).

But I still can't explain why some particular types of labor-power have different value (especially in Europe, where most education is paid through taxation, and therefore is already paid by previously extracted surplus). For example I doubt that the difference in the price of the following labor-powers can be boiled down to class struggle, what am I missing?

- Electronic Engineer

- Fast Food Employee

- High School Teacher

- Movie Actor

- Low-Level Manager

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The Alt-Right Is Taking Over Renaissance Fairs


>Ten days before the deadly Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville last year, Paul Walsh was telling fellow neo-Nazis how to build and carry shields. “Carrying it like that it will flop around and be a pain in the ass,” Walsh scolded a member of his chat group, who suggested a hands-free shield modification.

>How did Walsh know how a shield would work in action? “I do a lot of nerdy LARP [live action role play] shit with shields,” he explained.

>He wasn’t kidding. Before Unite the Right, Walsh was an active participant in Dagorhir, a medieval fantasy role-playing game in which players dress as knights or orcs (one of Walsh’s preferred costumes) and bash the hell out of each other with foam swords. Nor was he alone. Since the 19th Century, white supremacists have bought into a fictionalized vision of medieval Europe, which they interpret—incorrectly, according to medieval scholars—as an all-white world. Now, with white supremacist extremism on the rise, those medievalist influences are leaking into the real world, from allegations of neo-Nazism in the LARPing community and the professional sword-fighting realm, to Renaissance Faire-loving bombers and fascist cults who encourage recruits to read Lord of the Rings.

>Walsh, a Michigan man, was a fixture of Dagorhir tournaments, where he LARPed as an orc called Kromkar Da Yooper since at least 2011, the blog Alt-Right Already reported last August. But despite a self-proclaimed love for “painting up” before battles (orc players often paint themselves green), Walsh believed whites were superior. A member of Walsh’s Dagorhir group told Alt-Right Already that members quit over Walsh’s comments defending slavery and white supremacy.

>Elsewhere in the logs, Walsh references his roommate pitching in to plan the TWP’s shield wall. That person’s identity is unclear, although at least one of Walsh’s Michigan LARPing friends was at Unite the Right, according to Alt-Right Already. That LARPer, Anthony Overway, roleplayed as a character called Heinz the Barbarian. A person with the username “Heinz-MI” appears repeatedly in chat logs for the TWP and a Unite the Right planning group, where he gives instructions on building shields and forming a shield wall.

Who would have guessed that white nationalists are into LARP :^)

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Connecticut socialist turns in over 10,900 signatures for U.S. Senate bid


Socialist Action is running an independent socialist candidate for the senate races in CT this year. Fred Mitch Linck, an Iraq Veteran and Communist, has succeeded in collecting nearly 11,000 signatures to secure a spot on the ballot, with the state requiring at least 7,5000 to be on the ballot. This is the first organizationally independent socialist campaign for senate in quite a long time.

The Platform is such:

1. Defend unions and workers’ rights to organize! For an independent labor party based on a democratic, fighting labor movement.

2. Stop all deportations now! Amnesty now! Equal rights for immigrants! No wall! No Muslim ban! No refugee ban!

3. Black Lives Matter! Jail killer cops. Dismantle the racist police and the criminal justice system!

4. Reparations for Puerto Rico, for African-American, indigenous and all colonized communities.

5. Reproductive Justice: Free, accessible contraception and abortion on demand. The right to raise healthy children.

6. Quality Free Public Childcare/Eldercare for all, 24-7. Free education for life.

7. Full civil and human rights for the LGBTQI community.

8. Free quality universal public health care now!

9. Emergency conversion to 100% renewable energy.

10. Dismantle the U.S. war machine. End U.S. aid to Israel! For a democratic secular Palestine!

Here is the campaign website, several articles, and an interview:






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Bosnian Thread

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"Freud’s theory has now become a fad. I mistrust sex theories expounded in articles, treatises, pamphlets, etc. in short, the theories dealt with in that specific literature which sprouts so luxuriantly on the dung heap of bourgeois society. I mistrust those who are always absorbed in the sex problems, the way an Indian saint is absorbed In the contemplation of his navel.

It seems to me that this superabundance of sex theories, which for the most part are mere hypotheses, and often quite arbitrary ones, stems from a personal need. It springs from the desire to justify one’s own abnormal or excessive sex life before bourgeois morality and to plead for tolerance towards oneself. This veiled respect for bourgeois morality is as repugnant to me as rooting about in all that bears on sex. No matter how rebellious and revolutionary it may be made to appear, it is in the final analysis thoroughly bourgeois. Intellectuals and others like them are particularly keen on this. There is no room for it in the Party, among the class-conscious, fighting proletariat.”



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The narrative of the USSR winning the fight against the Third Reich is powerful but there are many sources which drone on about how the US financed them. I've seen only a couple of sources dispute the giant Lend-Lease programme's effectiveness and I can't remember where the one about the swelling of the Soviet budget was. It's been on my mind for a while and I would like to see some discussion about it; I will return later.

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debunking the conspiracy

how about we take a look at the grand international Jewish masonic order and we debunk it ,Ive been tired to argue with nazis all day about it,and its been getting kinda boring and annoying so i'm trying to make a filled with shit that can debunk this conspiracy like screen caps ,sources etc also if u find some of /pol/ proofs and screencaps and debunk them that would be great ,

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For Glorious Stalin and the Commune we will wipe out Finland until they all listen to us!

>Wipes out your entire regiment

Heh, nothing personell….comrade.

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For romanian commies or whoever knows wtf is up with the PCR i heard they relegalised it in like 2016 or so but how is it doing now? Are they full on ☭TANKIE☭s or just turned into revisionist-socdem tier shit

Im in Romania rn and apparently there's a huge manifestation against the government in 2 days so I dunno how are you guys doing?

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Sacramento has been tracking license plates to monitor welfare recipients

>Sacramento County officials have been tracking the license plates of welfare recipients in the hopes of catching potential fraud, according to a new report in the Sacramento Bee.

>The license plate monitoring program, which the ACLU warned us about, snaps photos of license plates when the cars they are attached to make their way past telephone poles and police cars, letting officials track the location of vehicles. Welfare fraud investigators working with the Sacramento County Department of Human Assistance (DHA) pay $5,000 a year for access to the license plate reader database to track those welfare recipients they suspect of fraud. This isn’t new, either: They’ve been doing it since 2016.

What stage of capitalism is this?


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My university says I need to stop sending death threats to students from Kosovo or I'll be expelled. How do I fight this form of imperialism. Will the ACLU defend me?

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>american general deleted for literally no reason

holy fuck this board is so dead

yes, I know I'm going to get banned for this. can you try to make me care, mods?

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Were former Nazis willingly joining the liberals in the West during the Cold War the ultimate example of how the two were just different sides of the same system? There seems to be a whole propaganda narrative around how Operation Paperclip rescued poor German scientists from the evil clutches of the Communist Soviet Union and the superiority of "our German scientists to their German scientists" in the American space program, with no one seeming to mind that a lot of these guys worked for a genocidal regime and benefited from slave labour employed by said regime just a decade or two prior.

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Obama and the Failure of Capitalist Democracy


Lifting the Veil: Obama and the Failure of Capitalist Democracy

“Barack Obama and the failure of capitalist democracy”, this film explores the historical role of the Democratic Party as the “graveyard of social movements”, the massive influence of corporate finance in elections, the absurd disparities of wealth in the United States, the continuity and escalation of neocon policies under Obama, the insufficiency of mere voting as a path to reform, and differing conceptions of democracy itself.

Original interview footage derives from Noam Chomsky, Michael Parenti, Michael Albert, John Stauber (PR Watch), Sharon Smith (Historian), William I. Robinson (Editor, Critical Globalization Studies), Morris Berman (Author, Dark Ages America), and famed black panther Larry Pinkney.

Non-original interviews/lectures include Michael Hudson, Paul Craig Roberts, Ted Rall, Richard Wolff, Glen Ford, Lewis Black, Glenn Greenwald, George Carlin, Gerald Cliente, Chris Hedges, John Pilger, Bernie Sanders, Sheldon Wollin and Martin Luther King.

Visit http://metanoia-films.org/compilations.php for more info.

"Lifting the Veil is the long overdue film that powerfully, definitively, and finally exposes the deadly 21st century hypocrisy of U.S. internal and external policies, even as it imbues the viewer with a sense of urgency and an actualized hope to bring about real systemic change while there is yet time for humanity and this planet. See this film!" - Larry Pinkney - Editorial Board Member & Columnist - The Black Commentator

Viewer discretion advised - Video contains images depicting the reality and horror of war.

Posted March 11, 2011

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What right-wing philosophers/politicos do you respect?

Personally, I think that Hans Hermann-Hoppe and Nick Land are both interesting ideologues.

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Communism and Australia + /aus/

Moderately new to leftism, can anyone give a rundown/advice on the state of the left and the left wing parties in Australia?

Currently Ive only really noticed two groups in my city - Socialist Alliances and Socialist Alternative (The Communist Party seems to be mainly a LARP/club for boomers) both mainly from their newspaper sellers though the latter also seems to have the only large scale conferences.

Outside of Refugees/immigration and Adani what are some of the key struggles/issues to focus on?

Also /aus/ general

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/sv/ Sverigetråden

Snart är det den 9:e September alltså snart val. Vad ska du rösta på?

Upp, trälar uti alla stater,

som hungern bojor lagt uppå

Det dånar uti rättens krater,

snart skall uppbrottets timma slå.

Störtas skall det gamla snart i gruset.

Slav, stig upp för att slå dig fri!

Från mörkret stiga vi mot ljuset,

från intet allt vi vilja bli

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I have some questions that I think can settle the China capitalist v socialist argument once and for all if someone can answer them with evidence. I'm copying my questions from a different thread because nobody has answered them. Also, bear in mind that just because a nation is capitalist or on the capitalist road or whatever you want to call it, that doesn't mean it can't do some things right. This thread doesn't need to result in relentless China-bashing.

If China is a socialist and anti-imperialist force in the world, then why does it allow foreign multinationals to exploit its workers instead of providing jobs for the workers that will also contribute to building up productive forces? If they are only using capitalism to build up productive forces, at which point will they stop? Seriously, when has enough been built? Why allow unemployment to exist, why not use that manpower to build up productive forces? Where is the proof that labor and land are no longer traded according to their exchange value (as commodities)? Particularly considering things like leasing land from Vietnam? Also, isn't housing priced according to market value? What about food?

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Has anybody ever considered making something kind of like pic related, but for leftist online content creators and websites instead of alt right ones?

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Iceland? not again....

>Norway is anarchist

>Switzerland is anarchist

>Iceland is Anarchist

I am so fucking tired of some of us anarchos and libsocs pointing to these countries as some example, that or to Scandinavian social democracy as actual socialism; and now the retards at www.anarchy.no have decided to join in, having not one, but 2 articles, explaining why Norway and Iceland are Anarchist, considering both Norway and Iceland refused to join the EU because it would hurt their fishing PROFITS, and that Norway still has a king, can we stop calling these places good examples? I even saw some Leftbookers join in on praising Switzerland for Direct Democracy and unionized workforce… but people, it's still fucking Capitalism

I agree these nations are good example of praxis


now stfu with your nordic nations

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Is China really a socialist country if they banned homosexuality, extramarital affairs, one night stands and underage relationships from TV?

>Ever more reactionary, China has now banned depictions of homosexuality from media on moral grounds.


Source: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/mar/04/china-bans-gay-people-television-clampdown-xi-jinping-censorship

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Another ban

fucking hell, what and why the fuck do these bans happen against anti-ba'ath people? must you support anti-progressive leader who tried to eradicate Berber culture to suvrive on this board?

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Chinese Shitposting Thread

Feel free to inquire all shitposing and memes related to modern china, and do it quick! before the BigBrain ☭TANKIE☭s come rolling with the first high-speed®️ chinese fast speed trains™️ to give us NUCLEAR takes on the critical aid Deng and Xi gave the Chinese proletariat and general homophobia

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Right Wing Cringelord Thread

Guy in the picture is NK Ryzov aka Militant_Ape on YouTube. He deleted all of his videos on YT but he's still active on FB under the name N.K Ryzov.

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Our unique socialism

Can we have a thread dedicated to hypothetical, unique, special snowflake systems of socialism which we create via online government simulators?

Starting off with my own– can somebody tell me what i can do to improve this? I'm too much of a brainlet to understand the marxist stance on things like inheritance taxes, bank reserve limits and public sector prices, worker wages, and wage ratios, welfare and spending ratios, etc…

From my understanding, there would be no need for an inheritance tax if everything a person's parents, lovers etc. owns is just personal property meanwhile land, housing etc are all publicly owned. With banks being publicly owned and not-for-profit, they'd have no reason to lend or borrow money to survive, and they'd be strictly for monetary storage therefore meaning the reserve limit would be 100%.

TL;DR could use some help understanding basic economics. Help me out here /leftypol/.

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ITT: Misunderstood /ourguys/

What I mean by this is guys (or girls) who were on our side, whether they be marxists or anarchists or whatever, who have retroactively been misread and misunderstood either by liberals, the Far Right, or both

Pic very much related. A lot of libertarians and even some alt-right types think of Thompson as being one of theirs but when you actually do some research things get interesting:

>In a 1965 letter to his friend Paul Semonin, Thompson explained an affection for the Industrial Workers of the World, "I have in recent months come to have a certain feeling for Joe Hill and the Wobbly crowd who, if nothing else, had the right idea. But not the right mechanics. I believe the IWW was probably the last human concept in American politics." In another letter to Semonin, Thompson wrote that he agreed with Karl Marx, and compared him to Thomas Jefferson. In a letter to William Kennedy, Thompson confided that he was "coming to view the free enterprise system as the single greatest evil in the history of human savagery." In the documentary Breakfast with Hunter, Hunter S. Thompson is seen in several scenes wearing different Che Guevara T-shirts. Additionally, actor and friend Benicio del Toro has stated that Thompson kept a "big" picture of Che in his kitchen. Thompson wrote on behalf of African-American rights and the civil rights movement.He strongly criticized the dominance in American society of, what he called, "white power structures".

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New thread for lefty podcast discussion

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Sweden Democrats getting stronger; could win next election


Personally I think it's good if they win the next election. The only reason they have so many votes is because they're using a primarily socdem message combined with an anti-immigration platform. However, they are stealth neoliberals. Once the Swedish people realize they aren't going to improve healthcare, education, child care, pensions, etc. they'll lose the majority of their support. I mean just look at this shit:

"The Sweden Democrats came under fire in 2015 for changing their position on profits made by private welfare companies. Before the election in 2014 they favored having restrictions on the amount of profit that welfare companies could take and use for their own gain. After the election they have favored the approach of the Alliance parties, that is higher and more restrictive quality standards. This has been suspected to be because of extensive lobbying done by the organisation Svenskt Näringsliv, among others. The story was discovered by the Swedish newspaper Dagens Industri on 14 September 2015. SD has denied all accusations of corruption."

They're going to classcuck the swedes so hard since they'll be taking orders from lobbyists. It'll give an opportunity to the Left Party.

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Americain is naturally vile being serving the capitalism these people have no humanity something must be made against them

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Daily reminder. A rose is a symbol representing the death of Rosa and there is nothing that liberals can do to apologize for it aside from bending over and taking the communist dick while saying sorry.

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What is Venezuela? Some have said Venezuela is a communist country. Others say it is a socialist country. However, some people claim it is neither. But Venezuela is definitely not a capitalist country, and it's definitely not a theocratic country either. It's also not a monarchy. What is it, then, if not a socialist/communist country?

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Can any common ground be found with the far right? It's to my knowledge that a lot of them are anti capitalist

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How will a Socialist government pay for roads, free housing, free healthcare, free college etc. without taxation? Someone help me understand this. Here's how i think it should go;

>abolish private property, nationalize healthcare, education systems, abolish private rent

>switch currency in order to make the absurd amount of currency-based wealth that the rich have worthless

>new currency should be labor vouchers

>assign everybody a house (one of millions that are currently foreclosed or seized by banks), give everybody a basic ration

>switch from heavily centralized industry to devolved industry, federal government assigns states all industry located within state, state assign industry to cities, towns, etc

>federal government assigns labor vouchers per hour worked

>everybody gets basic subsistence, the point is that it is just enough to survive but not enough to live in luxury, people get tired of it and want something more therefore work

Here's where i draw a blank. Someone tell me about certain books that i should read in order to better understand worker payments and assigning value to people's labor. I'd like to learn more about hard economic principles in switching to a fully socialist and then to a communist society. I want to understand;

>how to give everybody the basic necessities

>how to pay for giving everybody basic necessities

I already know how to encourage people to work without forcing them to, but getting to that point is what i don't understand yet.

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The Underground Reich

How American and Britain created the Third Reich and then saved it by turning it into NATO




These articles are an info dump on the "underground" elite networks of fascists and their terrorist mercenaries. GLADIO, NATO, Al Qaeda, etc. A very important issue to understand, as the continuity of fascism (from Jim Crow America to modern empire) is a covered-up history that is key to understanding the imperialist state, terrorism, and counterrevolution.

I posted this in another thread, but thought it could use its own thread.

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Anyone else noticing how a lot of these fascists don't want to admit their rally failed, so they're trying to pretend it was all some set up, and that they never had any intention of being a success? I've come across a dozen of these fucking retards lmao

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Why would I ever be a communist?

Capitalist/petite-bourg (as you would say) here. Basically…

>wealthy parents

>even wealthier grandparents

>no job

>business degree

>get breaded out each month from trust

>set to inherit a few mil in real estate and other goodies in a few years when my grandma croaks

>spend most of my time having fun with my friends

So, why should I not be allowed to be rich again? Because there are poor people? Who cares? You don't criticize fat people by pointing out there are people starving in Africa. Sounds like communists are just jealous poor people who want the lifestyle I have.

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So I wrote this article and actually got it published

If you guys read and tell me what you thought of it, that'd be nice. It's really fucking edgy though


I'll copy paste it here for convenience

"Every once in a while, there's an event that everyone thinks will shake things up. Whether it's reports of things like concentration camps for illegal immigrants, the leak of the Panama and the Paradise Papers, or even the revelation that the government was spying on all of us, something that conspiracy theorists had been saying (and getting ridiculed for it) for years.

Something that tells us, "No way will the people just accept this happening. Something HAS to be done," like we're about to tear down the Berlin wall and take our freedoms back by force, like this will be the revelation that will make the world change.

And then it never does.

Illegal immigrants are still getting rounded up by the hundreds and getting put into the camps, the rich assholes who were all part of an enormous, worldwide conspiracy to dodge taxes and hoard wealth are still free, and the government is still listening to your phone calls and spying on you to find out what sort of degenerate pornography you like (all in the name of safety and freedom, of course).

Hell, three of the people named in the Paradise Papers are currently part of the Trump administration (that's Mnuchin, Secretary of the Treasury; Wilbur Ross, Secretary of Commerce; and Rex Tillerson, Secretary of State, by the way). You've also got the Koch brothers and George Soros there, and you won't see those ghouls paying for their crimes.

And these are just the ones we know. I wouldn't be surprised to see Jeff Bezos or Zuckerberg showing up in the next chapter of The Rich Are Fucking Us up the Ass and Making Us Pay for the Lube.

So, why aren't we up in arms about things like this? If this were a book or a movie, this might have been the part where the main character gives a rousing speech to the populace and everyone marches on down to the capital and puts the corrupt government in their place. So why do we just let it happen? I'm not saying to actually march on DC, since I wouldn't like getting shot for sedition either, but we could at least vote them out, as our democratic system is supposed to let us do.

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How to read capital

I have decided I need to read capital in it's entirety. How should I go about this? From what I have read it looks dry, difficult and of course long but simultaneously it is essential reading. Does anyone have any recommendations for guides or companions which shoe in as little of their own analysis as possible or are at least clear about when they are doing so?

I've heard some good things about David Harvey's comparisons but my trot friends react violently and I get the impression they may be right. Reading capital with said trot friends is not an option as they seem more concerned with converting me than actual discussion.

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Redpill me on the Soviet Union. I have a basic high school tier understanding of history and I've read The Communist Manifesto. I'm leaning towards Socialism but I want to know what actually happened with the Soviet Union and whether it was actually the shit show people make it out to be.

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/italeftypol/ - Once more with feeling

L'altro thread è morto. E nessuno si è degnato di dargli degna sepoltura nell'archivio. Pazienza. Mi rode solo che un paio di effortpost siano andati perduti. Ma i guai veri sono altri.

Si chiude una porta. Si apre un portone.

Vorrei cominciare facendo autocritica - MAO, anzi LMAO! - sul fatto che nel thread originale la maggior parte degli interventi erano in inglese e non in italiano. Non è mica vietato, ma i thread tedesco, francese e olandese sono quasi tutti nelle rispettive lingue. Se qualcuno vorrà fare domande in altre lingue, faccia pure.

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Questions about Karl Marx and Communism

I've been doing some reading, and I have some questions about both Karl Marx and Communism. I don't usually use this board, but I figured I could glean some information by asking you guys.

1. What was his life like? was he abused as a child? was he abused at his workplace?

2. How does the modern spirit of communism as associated with the quotes of Victor d'Hupay differ from Marx's visions and writings?

3. How much was Friedrich Engels involved with writing the Communist Manifesto, and what was his relationship with Marx like?

4. What's the difference between Karl Marx's communism, vs the communism of the famous tyrants of the world?

I understand that shitposters be shitposters, but I would love some serious responses please.

Thank you.

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Redpill me about 60s

Who were hippies? What was CIA doing at that time? What was going on in Warsaw Pact countries and in USSR at that time

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Rafiq's works

In a few posts on Revleft, Rafiq alludes to having written books and pamphlets, in one post he mentions having written a 180k word book criticizing empiricism. Does anyone have a link to such books or can post PDFs? Are they more calm and composed than his ANGERY posts? I would really like to read Rafiq on topics of his choosing instead of just BIG RED LETTERS angry replies to forum posters.

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I’m stupid. Help.

Can someone help me, a huge dumbass that works multiple jobs and is too tired when they get home to read century old books, understand how an ancom society would tackle necessary large scale public projects? Stuff like running water filtration facilities, allocating resources to address the needs of a large population, engineering, road way design, etc. seems like a much more complex undertaking than fixing brake lights and filling pot holes.

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Leftist arguments against social democracy

Recently on social media went viral 'Fox news' video attack about social democracy in Denmark and in comments a lot people were praising 'socialist model' of Denmark like it is the greatest thing ever, naturally a lot of normies are influenced by such things and will go on praising social democracy. Could someone please share some info graphs, statistics or articles debunking social democracy in favor of communism?

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so this is how it ends

so the socialist revolution is about praising Allah and….dildos.


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>Nazis weren't sociali-


Wow, I thought the "nazis were socialist" thing was a meme but I gained a new perspective…

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The Young Karl Marx

Have you guys seen this yet?

It's kind of a light weight melodrama, but it's fun. Especially fun for the anarchists, since Proudhon, Bakunin, and Stirner all make appearances.

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Is a great deal of protest activity controlled opposition? It happens constantly in capitalist societies and doesn't change anything while being demonized by the press and crushed by the authorities if its actually against their economic interests.

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What will happen to languages in a communist world? For me, the ideal situation would be that everyone globally learnt their own regional language first, and then used a simple construted language to communicate interregionally.

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Runoff Voting

Is there any reason we shouldn't push for this in the United States? Socialist parties will become competitive and the media won't be able to keep their radio silence about alternatives to the two cucks.

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OC Thread 3.0

OC Thread 3.0

I suppose we should establish a new thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content.

Feel free to post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you would like to share.

Or, collaborate on improving content within this thread.

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Is the meg /ourshark/?

>causes millions of dollars of damage to bourgeois technology used by the imperialist humans

>kills a billionaire

>kills multiple decadent bourgeois lifestylist beachgoers

>dies a heroic death, like all socialists should

Truly a hero

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Would you have been spotted?

Some quotes:

>While a … preference for long sentences is common to most Communist writing, a distinct

vocabulary provides the… more easily recognized feature of the "Communist Language."

>Even a superficial reading of an article written by a Communist or a conversation with one will

probably reveal the use of some of the following expressions: integrative thinking, vanguard,

comrade, hootenanny, chauvinism, book-burning, syncretistic faith, bourgeois-nationalism,

jingoism, colonialism, hooliganism, ruling class, progressive, demagogy, dialectical, witch-hunt,

reactionary, exploitation, oppressive, materialist.

>While showing standard opposition to certain standard issues, the U.S. Communist has

traditionally identified himself with certain activities in the hope of furthering his ultimate

purposes. Such hobbies as "folk dancing" and "folk music" have been traditionally allied with the

Communist movement in the United States…

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Webm Thread

We haven't had a thread like this in a while.

Leftist speeches, old Soviet Propaganda, memes, and anything else you can think of.

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Your thoughts on Gaddafis Green Book, /leftypol/?

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It’s time to stop

I still see retards trying to be punks and goths, fads from the 70s and 80s (whose whole point was to be “shocking” and “rebellious” when they haven’t shocked a single person in two fucking decades and there are whole retail chains dedicated to these dumb fucks) in the Year of Our Lord 2018. And for some reason some of these guys are attracted to the left. So, if this is you, it’s time to stop. If you have a comrade who does this, tell them that it’s time to stop.

Bonus points if they’re into “Satanism”, neo-paganism, tarot, horoscopes and other new age bullshit like the walking stereotypes they’re attempting to be. That shit needs to stop as well.

Or, if you really, really feel the itch to engage in some commodity fetish “culture” from the last century, get that out of your system first before coming to any kind of materialist politics.

(Couldn’t even find a picture of punks from this decade, it’s literally all shit from the 70s and 80s, which should tell you something, but I do still see these guys walking around)

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Washington white nationalist rally sputters in sea of counterprotesters

>A white nationalist rally in the heart of Washington drew around 20 demonstrators and hundreds of chanting counterprotesters on Sunday, the one-year anniversary of racially charged violence in Charlottesville, Virginia.



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cognitive dissonance

My family, the most important people in my life are simply liberals. They don't believe me, that capitalism must be abolished and communism be established.

Recently I called my brother in a discussion a "bootlicker", because he was defending the status quo. I feel bad after such situations and I don't know what to do. I know people like him are enemies of the revolution, otherwise he is still my brother and he is important to me. Do you know this feeling of cognitive dissonance too?

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Which german Party or organization is worth joining?

Hello, can any fellow german perhaps tell me, which parties or organizations are there at the moment, worth joining?

I used to like Die Linke, but that was only, because back when I was more of a social democrat I really liked Gysi.

The MLPD as a party, although by name seeming to be more my cup of sauerkrautsaft, after some viewing of their online material seems like a not very serious or just very idealistic or dilluded organization.

Is there any good marxist beginners Material, like youtube videos in German even, or any movement. The left in germany seems to be really dead at the moment, and I wonder how it could come to this situation, as with the reunification to the GDR lots of former socialists must have been added to the country, but apparently all their movements were destroyed very effectively, so that today in east germany there is mostly only rightism left.

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Thoughts on this quote? Thoughts on this quote? Thoughts on this quote? Thoughts on this quote? Thoughts on this quote? Thoughts on this quote? Thoughts on this quote? Thoughts on this quote? Thoughts on this quote? Thoughts on this quote? Thoughts on this quote? Thoughts on this quote? Thoughts on this quote? Thoughts on this quote? Thoughts on this quote? Thoughts on this quote?

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Any good leftist id-politics/SJW hating podcast recommendations?

I just got into red scare podcast. What’s /leftypol/s opinion of them?

Here’s there newest episode: https://m.soundcloud.com/red-scare-727066439/hood-pass

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/USG/ - United States General: Say Something Nice Edition

>go from shithole colony to greatest superpower the world has ever seen in 200 years

>highest GDP of any country in history




>cool weapons

>btfo Nazis

>btfo commies

>btfo fascists

>print valueless fiat - world adopts it as reserve currency

>everyone hates you out of jealousy

>extremist groups constantly plotting against your existence, but know they're all LARPing, at best

When will you fags take the red white and blue pill and get on the winning side of history for once?

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Conservatives call for constitutional intervention last seen 230 years ago


>It’s been more than 230 years since America’s last constitutional convention, but there is growing confidence in some conservative circles that the next one is right around the corner – and could spell disaster for entitlement programs like medicare and social security, as well court decisions like Roe v Wade.

You know, I keep thinking that conservatism couldn’t possibly get any more disingenuous as an ideology, and conservatives keep proving me wrong. I thought at least burger conservatives were at least loyal to their two century old document and muh founding fathers, but nope, they’re the primary force behind getting the constitution rewritten if the opportunity arises. After half their propaganda was George Washington weeping over the evil libs not letting orphans starve or some shit, now the founders can go fuck themselves. It’s not just burgers, too, I’m reminded of former conservatives in the CPSU after the fall of the Soviet Union where these reddest of red Marxists who had worked their way up the CPSU and the Soviet bureaucracy and managerial class all formed fascist and reactionary parties the moment the red banner was hauled down. Conservatives are the surest sign of social rot. Wherever there is oppression, conservatives worship it, wherever there is injustice, conservatives defend it, and wherever there is some corrupt hierarchy, conservatives will spill out of the woodwork, tongues outstretched to service any footwear or orifice that might present themselves. The ideology of the state they inhabit means little to them, they will take on the garb of liberalism, Marxism, anarchism, etc, as they suit their need, and will discard them just as easily. They are the best argument for a red terror.

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Jimmy Dore's conservative fans OUTRAGED as he goes on the offensive against Jordan B. Peterson's denial of climate change. Mass downvoting and angry commenting ensue

Jordan B. Peterson Fails At Science - Twitter Dunks On Him

>Jordan B. Peterson tweeted out at a comically bad anti-intellectual video about Climate Change


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Anarcho-Capitalism is a Form of Anarchism

I don't understand why anarcho-capitalism is often not considered a legitimate form of anarchism. It seems like a reasonable progression of American individualist anarchism, and a lot of the intersectionalist politics directed negatively toward anarcho-capitalism seem to stem from collectivist and communist anarchists who attempt to rationalize all previous forms of anarchism as being strictly within their range of political thought. They also seem to not understand that anarcho-capitalism isn't even really an advocation of what most of you perceive as capitalism. It's much closer to just general market anarchism, only with an expansion on Benjamin Tucker's concept of property norms that eventually came to be known as the NAP, which was devised by Murray N. Rothbard. Add in a stronger belief in spontaneous order, and you get anarcho-capitalism. The largest issue with anarcho-capitalism is its branding- the actual name itself, because it's highly misleading and shitty to the point where it almost comes off as a bourgeoisie ideology. And while many ancaps (and later in life, even Murray himself) have become sympathizers of the bourgeoisie (refer to Hoppean ancaps and the ones that support partyarchy), there are still a ridiculous amount of ancaps and left-Rothbardians who do not sympathize with what you often label as the bourgeoisie (refer to agorist ancaps). In fact, they really oppose the same general enemy, they just usually call them corporatists if they're not full-on statists*. And if you really look at most of the other popular forms of anarchism, you would find just as many bourgeoisie sympathizers within ideological circles such as anarcho-communism and anarcho-syndicalism, yet they don't seem to get called out as "nOt bEiNg TrUe AnArChiStS". Instead, they get applauded for partaking in this constant cycle of circle-jerking and using the No True Scotsman fallacy.

*agorism has its own class-theory, so I imagine that agorist ancaps tend to use terms related more to that.

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NATO Should Give Turkey the Boot

Ankara, helped by China and Russia, is vandalizing Western interests.


U.S.-Turkish relations are mired in the worst crisis of their history. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is demanding that President Trump turn over Mr. Erdogan’s sworn enemy, Fethullah Gülen. Mr. Trump, meanwhile, seeks the release of the American pastor Andrew Brunson, who was imprisoned on the pretext that he had been involved in Turkey’s July 2016 coup attempt. The U.S. government has levied economic sanctions on two senior Turkish officials, akin to those imposed on Russian oligarchs after the seizure of Crimea. Turkey responded by freezing the plainly nonexistent Turkish assets of two Trump cabinet members.

Mr. Erdogan posed with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, and—in Ankara this April—with both! The trio met at a summit called to find a “solution” to the violence in Syria that they have fomented, spitting in the face of every friend of democracy and international law.

Mr. Erdogan’s relations with Mr. Putin are not limited to photo-ops. The sultan-in-the-making, who already had signed an agreement with the Kremlin to build massive nuclear power plants in Turkey, turned again to Moscow late last year for S-400 antiaircraft missiles that could pose compatibility problems with NATO weapons systems. Mr. Erdogan is going forward with the provocation even after the U.S. suggested it could jeopardize the Pentagon’s promised delivery of F-35 jet fighters.

Not long ago Europeans were debating, prematurely, whether to admit Turkey to the European Union. Now the time has come for the West collectively to demand not simply the release of a hostage, but the expulsion of Turkey from NATO.

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Caption this image of hitler and his mom, Although it has a caption you can recaption it because its a great image

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brainlet here pls debunk

I want to become a socialist but what's holding me back is racial realism. Can somebody please debunk this for me please?


What he is saying makes sense, but your economic theory makes much sense too, so I'm assuming your social politics are good too.

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I am a brainlet who literally does not know shit so if overpopulation is a right wing meme please don't delete this thread I am just asking a question and have absolutely no strong position on this whatsoever

Alright so I used to worry about overpopulation back in my high school years but kind of stopped giving a shit about it during a period where I basically didn't pay attention to any kind of news or read anything. Now that I'm trying to get back into politics and shit and trying to understand the big problems facing today there's one topic that I can't seem to make heads or tails of whether its even a problem at all and that's overpopulation.

The two narratives I see on this are: overpopulation, while not being the biggest contributor to climate change, is a large factor and depopulation (to a point) should be encouraged. From here there is a "Left"-overpopulation solution which is to expand abortion rights, destigmatize birth control and abortion in all parts of the world where they are still taboo or even have laws against them at an institutional level, demystify the sanctity of marriage and the "joys" of parenthood etc. Then there is a Right-"solution" which is essentially just an AnPrim accelerationist fantasy where you personally don't have any kids and just get stronger while allowing or even aiding the rest of the world in a mass depopulation etc etc

The second narrative is that overpopulation is literally a meme, has no impact whatsoever or very little on the environment particularly compared to other factors, and that it is even potentially racist.

Now as Leftists obviously the only thing that can solve the environmental question once and for all is the abolition of capitalism and I agree with that absolutely. However, consumption and lifestyle choices in the mean time do seem to at least aid in slowing the problem. I'm not saying that we should all bankrupt ourselves to become vegans or build a renewable house or whatever I'm just saying if there's things we can do I feel like we should sort of "in the background" while working on the primary goal which is the building of socialism. How, if at all, does the population question fit into this?

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What Syrian militias recruit Women?

/leftypol/, today I tried to join the SAA, but when I went to a recruiting station in Damascus, they turned me away because I'm female. after that I went and tried to join Haraket Filastin. they didn't even let me into their headquarters. Eventually I talked to some Palestinians outside the building, and one of them told me to go join the Kurdish whores in Qamishli. this nearly made my blood boil, but before I could respond another militiaman jumped between us and gave the thumbs up sign and tried handing me a small PKK pin. I tried explaining to him how the over a dozen US military bases in Syria were proxies for american imperialism and the PKK were useful idiots lead by ethnonationalism, but my Arabic wasn't good, and he just kept saying "Women very brave" and talking about being at Tabqah or something. Coming all this way just to be bombarded by more /leftypol/-tier talking points was infuriating, so I walked back to my hotel.

What the fuck am I supposed to do now? I don't have the money to fly back to the United Kingdom. This was supposed to be my final destination! how the fuck can I get home?

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/fr/ - le francofil gauchiste

édition de la démocratie libérale "Cette démocratie si parfaite fabrique elle-même son inconcevable ennemi, le terrorisme. Elle veut, en effet, être jugée sur ses ennemis plutôt que sur ses résultats. L’histoire du terrorisme est écrite par l’État ; elle est donc éducative. Les populations spectatrices ne peuvent certes pas tout savoir du terrorisme, mais elles peuvent toujours en savoir assez pour être persuadées que, par rapport à ce terrorisme, tout le reste devra leur sembler plutôt acceptable, en tout cas plus rationnel et plus démocratique."

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>tfw the more I learn about the necessary constitutions for communism the more unlikely I realize it's going to be and the more nihilist and accelerationist I become.

>tfw the telecommunications industry and M-I complex grows larger every day and we have major monopoly government-like corporations popping up like the Musk Foundation

please stop me from becoming a nihilist.

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Why is it so hard for right wingers to understand that capitalists control the world and not some shadowy monolithic entity with mystical powers (illuminati, jews, reptilians)? Why are they so susceptible to global conspiracy theories?

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"Unite the Right 2" Thread

This thread is for discussion and shitposting about the upcoming sequel to the Charlottesville "Unite the Right" rally.

Some articles with INFO on the rally:



It is being organized by Jason Kessler.

What are we expecting, /leftypol/?

Will there be another shitstorm on the level of Charlottesville? Maybe even worse? Will it produce good memes? Will the fascists get BTFO?

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Free Market Super-Capitalism

We must abolish monopolized (commercial - factories and land) property but give everybody their own private property (private/personal property - toothbrushes, personal couches, beds) because when people have private property (toothbrushes) it gives everybody a better quality of life so that way the system is productive. We must democratize the workplaces as well, that way the workers who know how to run a factory overrule corrupt socialist monopolist bureaucrats in terms of labor leadership.

Why aren't you a free-market super-capitalist yet /leftypol/?


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Come with music and converse here with camaraderie on DubTrack—this board's old, non-sectarian place of gathering—as we survive in and reflect upon this world reigned over by Capital, bracing ourselves for what is to come.

This thread is also intended to serve as a place of discussion for music in general, so, then, speak!




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Anyone also spreading their genes as far as possible? Everytime I paint the womb of a women. Everytime I pump her full of my seed, I feel something awaken inside of me. I see the Mongol horders riding upon the grand steppes of central asia. I see them taking the spoils of their conquest, spreading their genes. I see the Hunns making the Germanics run toward Rome. I see my ancestors colonizing Europe in their carriages and killing off the local Basque homos (haha rekt).

Everytime I cum. I see them conquering he world.


What did you incels do? Probably nothing…

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Conservative Shit

>Don't read Marx

>Don't read political theory

>is in a conservative circlejerk

>Have an entire fanbase of 14-year-old edgelords

>"That's not how the economy works!"

>Don't read political theory

>"I know what I'm talking about"


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Thoughts on Decolonization?

I know many anarchists tend to support the Zapatistas and the Palestinians who tend to be involved in this, but this seems to be impractical on a large scale

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Facebook Lunacy

Anyone have any screenshots of ridiculous Facebook shit? Before work I saw a Ron Paul post saying taxation was equal to slavery, returned to it after work and the comments were total cancer. This thread could basically be unlimited, and isn't intellectual, but I feel like its relaxing to sit back and laugh at dogmatic idiots

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Politics is just a cope for the meaninglessness of existence. All this will pass, including the human race itself.

Prove me wrong. Please do.

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I want you to talk to me about Christian communism and if it can be Catholic, you better want to know about this ideology

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Cali Uses Child Slaves to Fight Fires


>Today, more than 2,000 volunteer inmate firefighters, including 58 youth offenders, are battling wildfire flames throughout CA. Inmate firefighters serve a vital role, clearing thick brush down to bare soil to stop the fire's spread. #CarrFire #FergusonFire #MendocinoComplex

Not just prison slaves, but CHILD prison slaves.

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The Trotsky vs Stalin feud is pointless

The whole feud between these two was about the early direction of a country that no longer exists. Not only is this water under the bridge, the river has long since dried up. People like to act like it’s still the fucking 1930s.

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Man Kicked Out Of Parents' House Turns To Alex Jones For Guidance

>In this Majority Report, Alex Jones tries to sell Michael Rotondo vitamin pills.


30-year-old leaves parents’ home with help from Alex Jones

The 30-year-old man whose eviction from his parents’ suburban home drew national attention finally left Friday, hours before a court-ordered deadline, with financial help from right-wing radio host and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones.


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Peru and the chaos and mistrust with the "democratic goverment"

Peru has a "democratic goverment" that is coluded with the porkys.(CONFIEP,Club Nacional,etc) But our left in the congress is poor and little. There is someone out here that is peruvian?

¡Hay algún peruano aqui?

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I am economically socialist and socially traditionalist, so when i am talking politics online i usually just refer to myself as a Nat-Syn for simplicity.Lately i have been reading about Stalin and am interested in authoritarian communism, can somebody red-pill me on the subject,thanks.You cant convince me to be an anarchist or Trotskite though,i do have self respect.

The verification on 8ch is so damn hard

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According to Zizek, how is it possible to escape ideology? How should one live their life?

Forgive me, I'm new to Zizek

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Are you ready? This might just be the most epic of their videos…

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Why are ⛏️rotskyists the nicest commies? They deal with abuse left and right from /leftypol/ but never lose their temper over it.

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Black Nationalism?

>Most leftists here argue that United States imperialism and hegemony is one of the single most destructive material forces to any possible socialist state

>Many would also agree that most American workers are really labor aristocrats and petite bourgeois, benefit in the short term from imperialism and therefore don’t try to dismantle it

>Many also support the Assad Regime and other anti-imperialist regimes who may have questionable polices, not be directly socialist, but still help to weaken U.S. hegemony and should be rightfully supported for this effort

>Many Black Americans in fact find themselves in the position of precarious working class or lumpen proletariat and outwardly distrust the American government, and most American institutions

Tell me again why you don’t support socialist black nationalism for the U.S. and the weakening of its position as the dominant imperialist power anons?

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Workplace Woes

>Your job

>The job you want to work at

>Anything or anybody that pisses you off at your job

for me it's


>want to be an educator

>stupid boss keeps firing the people that are well liked and fun to be around and keeps hiring shitty people that work slow

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What does leftypol think of the degrowth movement?

From 12 lines of flight for degrowth:

" Degrowth means a break with the superficial, positive-sum game logic of distributory policy making and the illusion of an economy based on scarcity, one in which there is only redistribution when the economy grows. Not only has “trickle-down” failed radically; growth actually contributes to the production of underdevelopment and the increasing inequality of distribution. Yet there is enough for all. Wealth must be distributed equitably, and not grow further. For this to happen, we not only need a minimum income, but also a maximum income, as the French décroissance movement demands.

Degrowth also says goodbye to the illusion of a growth-based full-employment society. For a long time, the real rates of growth have not been sufficient to integrate the work force, set free by increases in productivity and commoditisation, back into the labour market. The alternative to making large sections of society poorer and “obsolete” is to shorten the working hours for everyone. In addition, reducing the absolute number of hours performed in wage-labour is actually necessary for a long-term reduction of the GNP. 20 hours are enough — for a start![5] And don’t forget: there is a life beyond working for wages, in which — as feminist economists always stress — much of the necessary work (re)producing society is performed. And this also has to be distributed — to everyone.

The reduction of working hours is sand in the gears of the growth economy and it creates necessary strategic latitude, but that alone is not enough. In the end, additional massive “rationalisation” would be the answer of corporations, and their imperative to make profits, to grow, would not be dislodged. New forms of demonetised transaction, a just solidarity-economy and the cultivation/management of commons are crucial. At the same time it is necessary to intervene in the actually existing finance capitalism, to control investment democratically and turn it around — away from fossil high-growth sectors to the “care economy”, use-value oriented grass-roots services and social-ecological reorganisation. And instead of servicing (public) debt, we struggle for debt cancellation. Drop the debt! [6] "

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Do you think that there is a plot in order to demonize the Left and bring about an authoritarian World order?

I mean, the news is against people who came out to fight Fascists, if you read everything science is trying to find a means to make it so that people will accept their fate via Autism Level and Intelligence genes. Like bring about a new Divine Right of Kings. The USA is increasing its military, Trump is going after Russia and China (I know I know but they are all that's left.)

I honestly believe that unless the Left strikes soon, we're gonna be in a World of pure shit and there will be no hope from getting out of it.

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/dprk/ -- North Korea General

Thread for discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Disproving common western myths about North Korea.

Archive of first ~500 posts:


Subsequent archives:


Related archives:


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Why doesn't this reflect Lenin's actions at all?

As far as I can tell this is more of a libertarian socialist text and has nothing to do with Leninism.

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The People's Party




Bernie re-run


the website is not up

Can they make it?

Will it blend?

Will the Bern finally be felt?

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Venezuela President Maduro 'survives drone attack'

>Venezuelan officials say explosive drones went off as President Nicolás Maduro was giving a live televised speech in Caracas, but he is unharmed.

>Communications Minister Jorge Rodriguez said this was an attempt on Mr Maduro's life, and seven soldiers were injured.

>Mr Maduro was seen speaking at an outdoor military event when he and others suddenly looked upwards - startled. The audio then went.

>Dozens of soldiers were seen running away before the broadcast was cut off.

>No group has said it was behind the alleged assassination attempt.

>Mr Rodriguez said the injured soldiers were being treated in hospitals while the president was meeting his ministers and military commanders.


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Ho Chi Minh City: Over 5,000 walk for Agent Orange victims


Addressing the event, Tran Quoc Hung, Vice President of the Vietnam Red Cross Society (VRC) Central Committee, said about 4.8 million Vietnamese people were exposed to AO/dioxin during the wartime and the number of people affected by the chemical would amount to tens of millions.

Over the past years, the association has supported 4.9 million AO victims and their families through various activities with total funding of more than 1.27 trillion VND (54.61 million USD), he said.

Hung stressed that the VRC calls on organizations and individuals nationwide to join hands to help AO victims and people with disabilities.

In 2017, the program collected over 1 trillion VND (43 million USD), providing support for more than 3,000 AO victims.

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Neoliberalism is the way to achieve socialism

The experiences of the USSR, Cuba, Vietnam, etc prove that "socialism in one country" does not work. Capitalism is a global system and the drive for profit will penetrate any "socialist" nation eventually.

The only way to achieve socialism and end capitalism is through the dissolution of the nation-state and borders. Competition among workers of the world promoted by neoliberalism via opening up of borders ensures the creation of a global proletariat.

As neoliberalism would continue to open up all parts of the world for exploitation, zero tariffs and easy flow of goods would become necessary to keep up profits. Therefore neoliberalism if continued, would both unite workers throughout the world and keep them in tighter chains through increased exploitation.

Once the nation-state system dissolves under neoliberalism, the bourgeoise would not be able to retreat to social democracy or fascism in order to escape crisis. A globalized proletariat, once bound together by rank and file unions led by a vanguard party, would then be able to completely dismantle the capitalist system and move towards communism.

Neoliberalism is a necessary evil.

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Why do Whiteoids hate Maoist Third Worldism?

I am done sugar coating my hatred for fucking whiteoids. Especially whiteoids from America. You are all ultimately reactionaries who value your own creature conforts more than anything and the best you can do is become ironic shithead podcasters like chapo. Wherever you leftist American whiteoids are found I have to fucking police my rhetoric to not offend you cucks. Well fuck you! You need to be fucking removed and replaced so that the rest of the planet can take a breath of fresh air and begin to develop.

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>All these threads from 2017

>Delusional LARPing

>Kindergarden-tier banter

>Pie-in-the-sky 'ideas' that never go anywhere

Hey /lefties/, how are you guys holding up? Are you still plotting a revolution or are you too demoralized? If i were you, i'd keep my head down and my mouth shut, you never know what might happen. Communism is dead and so are your leaders, so it might be a good idea to stay alive, you know. Just a thought, comrades.

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Kurds and Assad


>”Pro-government news outlets in Syria on Monday claimed an agreement was struck between the Kurdish authorities in the country’s north (known as over a dozen US military bases in Syria) and the central government in Damascus after the former took down their flags in the cities across the region.”

How come this isn’t he talked about more??

What does this mean for Syria?

Can Tanks and Anarchists be friends now???

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So whats the consensus on it? I've heard they hand over "liberated" Syrian towns to the American military and attract lots of psychos to serve in their armed forces. I also hear that they are actively aiding US imperialism.

Its cool that they have communes and shit but that seems very sketchy. I ain't an expert but supporting US imperialism doesn't seem very "socialist".

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Hezbollah's Next Battle: Islamic Communism

>As Syria’s war winds down, @hosmatar offers pertinent analysis on Hezbollah’s next (and more critical) battle against the IMF and World bank: transforming Lebanon from a rentier state that profits a tiny 1% into a productive welfare state that benefits the majority of the people.


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Brazil general

Ô psit, pega sua cervejinha de milho

e vem bater aquele papo!

Trilha sonora: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2iOhb__6hI

Esse ano dá PT ou dá zebra? PSDB, PMDB e PP vão cair também ou o Moro vai deixar de ser o isentão? Há esperança de socialismo de verdade no Brasil? Há um potencial zapatista no interior? Haverá mais uma greve dos patrões até o fim do ano? Dá pra pelo menos converter os Bolsominions ao Nazbol? Há esquerda fora da cupúla do PT?

Será que agora conseguimos eleger o Eduardo Jorge?

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Please Help me finding this North Korean Song

Capitalist Pig Shazam doesn't know it.

And I can't find it else where.

Maybe some of you have heard it before?


It starts at 5min12s

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Can anyone debunk this study for me please?

It says that Ethnocentrism is the most successful way to run a society long term.

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Mexican workers go on wildcat strike in Indianapolis after two get fired


The narration in the video is gold.

Narrator Antoine Dangerfield got fired:


>Even still, Dangerfield doesn't regret posting the footage, "because it's 5 million people who saw that. And it might change their view on things. Empowering people."

>"Me losing a job is nothing compared to the big picture," he said.

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In the case of Revolution in the US, what stops us on the left from just being completely BTFO'ed by insane Christian evangelical nutters who have been stockpiling weapons and supplies and training for "End times" for decades now by the millions, while the vast majority of leftists have never even held a firearm?

If Revolution were to happen within this year, we would be slaughtered by Fascist Evangelical psychopaths within a week.

I just don't get how the left can push for Revolution, yet not seem to understand that the right have us completely outgunned and outtrained and are far more organised and on top of that the Evangelical movement is basically a flat out fascistic apocalyptic death cult who would love for nothing more than to shoot godless leftists and have been training and amassing arms for decades to do so.

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"Why Socialism is a threat to minorities"

Instead of individual capitalists deciding what to produce in their endlessly varied, constantly competing private businesses, “without any democratic input from the rest of society,” control over industry and decisions about what to produce would reside in state planning agencies. And imagine their decisions perfectly, if improbably, reflect the actual democratic will of workers, whether in the nation; or a state, like Ohio or Utah; or a metropolitan area, like Maricopa County or Oklahoma City.

Popular control is finally realized! So: How popular is Islam? How many Muslim prayer rugs would the democratic majority of workers vote to produce? How many Korans? How many head scarves? How much Halal meat would be slaughtered? What share of construction materials would a majority of workers apportion to new mosques?

Under capitalism, the mere existence of buyers reliably gives rise to suppliers. Relying instead on democratic decisions would pose a big risk for Muslims. And Sikhs. And Hindus. And Jews. And maybe even Catholics.  

Right now, under capitalism, vegetarians and vegans have more options every year. But there aren’t very many of them. Five percent of Americans are vegetarians. Three percent are vegans. Would “the workers” find a societal need to produce vegan meat or milk substitutes? No one knows the answer.

How important would worker majorities consider hair products for African Americans? What if a majority of workers decided that only English-language commercial reading material should be printed in the United States? Would planning bodies decide for or against allocating materials for sex toys? Or binders for trans men? Or sexually explicit art work? The birth-control pill has “massive public implications.” And remember, “only when the private decisions that have massive public implications are subjected to popular control will we have a democratic society.”

So, young leftists: Would you prefer a socialist society where birth control is available if, and only if, a majority of workers exercising their democratic control assent? Or would you prefer a society where private businesses can produce birth control, per their preference, in part because individuals possess economic rights as producers and consumers, the preferences of a majority of people around them be damned?

Democratic majorities fueled the “tough on crime” policies of the high-crime decades that produced mass incarceration.

After years of watching Black Lives Matter protests and police killings on YouTube, roughly 57 percent of Americans today say that they have “a great deal” or “quite a lot” of confidence in law enforcement. A majority favor the death penalty. Left-leaning New York City repeatedly reelected a mayor who favored stop-and-frisk. Maricopa County repeatedly reelected Joe Arpaio

If a majority elected a populist demagogue like Donald Trump—which very nearly happened in 2016 (when he lost the popular vote) and may well happen in 2020—he would preside over not only our government, but alsoover our social and economic realms.



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>Majority Report with Sam Seder

>this guy's face show's up

>Majority Report with Sam Seder

>it's a Sam actually hosts episode

>this guy giggling through the entire monologue, interjecting with his uninteresting opinions and shit jokes

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What are the "Socialist Benefits" of Communist China?

Are there any chinese people or anyone who has lived in China who can debunk this vid?


I'm not on either side really, I was just trying to learn more about China and found this guys vids on youtube but I can't tell if he's just a liberal who is filtering everything through a liberal lens or just trying to tell the most truth. Please help a brainlet out

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A Vote on new “Space Force” logo

So, aparantly the Trump administration is going to let people weigh in on what the new “Space Force” logo should be.

Is there anything we could do with this?

(I added the logo of Air Force Space Command, the institution “Space Force” will be replacing for reference)

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Is this a psyop?

To what extent is stuff like pic related influencing and validating the rise of the far right?

What is scary about this shit is that is basically all american media. Most of the buzz of the day videos on /pol/ are also funded by American or filoamerican organization.

Are Americans try to make the world fascist?

While this board does recognize the role of liberalism in all this shit, I don't think it goes far enough.

Imho stuff like this is allowed and had an agenda: Not an anti.white agenda, but a massive psyop to invalidate leftism.

I can't be the only one to notice this. Articles like this are all the ammo the right needs.

Is Porky basically creating a "fail safe" army?

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Cultural Palaces

What does leftypol think about the soviet cultural palaces that were built to provide entertainment and enlightenment to their citizens? There isn't a whole lot I know about them, but the one in Warsaw has a movie theatre, meeting hall, swimming pool, and concert hall. What should socialists do to make life worth living?

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What did the New York Times mean by this? What purpose do such articles sympathetic to socialism and communism in the bourgeois press serve? The first two have the usual muh purges and muh freedom, but it remains that they were published and propagated as part of a series. What does a liberal take away/understand from these articles?

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Leftypol discord?

is there an active leftypol discord? I'm extremely lonely and an online community to talk amongst comrades sounds really nice.

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Political education under socialism

I hope this is a subject on which I can get some consensus even with MLs.

Is anyone else of the opinion that in future implementations of socialism the political education of the whole populace should be taken much more seriously? Contary to reactionary fantasies of communist indoctrination, I get the impression that 20th century socialist states didn't do the best job at cultivating political consciousness amongst its people. This is probably typical anarkiddy hubris on my part, but I believe breaking up the USSR would've been impossible with a fully politically conscious populace. Learning from the past, what are things which people should be made aware of? I propose it includes but isn't limited to





>food populism (see bread subsidies in poland)


Basically I would like to see a "teaching to fish" approach where the whole populace is made aware of movements which are harmful to socialism so that it can be rooted out quickly.

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European Union

I know that most of you hate the EU because it's forcing right-wing economic policies on it's member states, but is there really no way to reuse EU's infrastructure for creation of ESU?

Could revolution in brussels change how EU function or it would not be valid by international law?

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Political Scene of your Countries(s)

ITT: List / give opinion of all parties in your country represented on a national political level



>Liberals / LNP



Red Neo-Libs


self explanatory


"Send dem LibTARD city folk back where they came from!"


"Send those filthy Metropolitan Neo-liberals to work in the country to see how the working peasants live!"

>Center Alliance

Literally "Muh Radical centrism" the party

>One Nation

"Muh Chinks and da Mudslims and Blacks!"


"Lets bring back the death penalty and just hang all these pedo's"

He dosent actually say it but he might aswell

Based tbh


Vestigal wing of the Liberal Party fucking T*at*her tier

>United Australia / Clive Palmer

Literally our fucking Trump (Pic Related)

Owns the Largest Nickel mine in the fucking country and runs for office every year because he cant find enough ways to spend all his capital

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Chinese Maoists join students in fight for workers’ rights

Chinese Maoists join students in fight for workers’ rights at Jasic Technology

Leftists show support for employees of stock market-listed company, who are campaigning for the right to form a trade union

More here:


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Give me ONE good reason why I shouldn't abandon all opportunistic partisans and embrace LeftCommunism.

>inb4 you can't

>inb4 Communism is not a state of affairs which is to be established

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China’s ‘Keynesian’ policies


New article from Michael Roberts. Key points:

>The policy of government investment was hugely successful in helping the Chinese economy avoid the consequences of the Great Recession back in 2008-9. While all the major capitalist economies suffered a contraction in national output and investment, China continued to grow. In 2009, when GDP in the advanced countries fell by 3.4%, Chinese growth was 9.1%. Only one capitalist economy also grew – Australia – an economy increasingly dependent on exports of its raw material resources to its fast-growing Asian giant neighbour.

>But were China’s policies really Keynesian? Strictly speaking, Keynesian macro management policies are increased government spending of any type (digging holes and filling them up again) in order ‘stimulate’ the capitalist sector to start investing and households to spend, not save, all through the effect of the ‘multiplier’.

>China’s policy in the Great Recession was not just ‘fiscal stimulus’ in the Keynesian sense, but outright government or state investment in the economy. It actually was ‘socialised investment’. Investment is the key here –as I have argued in many posts – not consumption or any form of spending by government. The Great Recession in the US economy was led and driven by a fall in capitalist investment, not in personal consumption or caused by ‘austerity’. In Europe,100% of the decline in GDP was due to a fall in fixed investment.

>Keynesian stimulus policies do not work in a predominantly capitalist economy where the profitability of capitalist investment is very low and so investment is falling. With government investment in advanced capitalist economies only around 3% of GDP compared to capitalist sector investment of 15%-plus, it would take a massive switch to the public sector to have an effect. ‘Stimulating’ capitalist investment with low interest rates and welfare spending would not be enough. Capitalist investment would have to be replaced by state ‘socialised’ investment. That only has happened (temporarily) in war economies (as 1940-45). In the last ten years, in the US, Europe and Japan, it has been capitalists who made the decisions on investment and employment and they did so on the basis of profit not economic recovery. Quantitative easing and fiscal stimulus – the two Keynesian policy planks – were ineffective as a result. In contrast, China’s fixed investment increased rapidly because it was driven by a programme of both direct state investment and use of state owned banks to rapidly expand company financing.

>This difference between Keynesian measures in capitalist economies and China’s state-directed investment is about to be tested again. Most mainstream economists are predicting that China will take a hit from any trade war with Trump’s America and economic growth is set to slow – indeed, there is a growing risk of a huge debt-induced slump. But the Chinese authorities are already reacting. Ordinary budget deficits (fiscal ‘stimulus’) are being supplemented with outright state funding of investment projects (dark blue in graph).

So it seems there may be a qualitative difference between the Chinese economy and capitalist or "Keynesian" economies. This is something Michael Roberts has been arguing for some time.

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Why are many anarchists actually liberals and are anti-communists even if they don't realize it? Why is the anarchist portrayal of Marxist-Leninists (Or Stalinists as they love to call it) a caricature in the same way right-wingers view all kinds of socialists? I'm not a hyper ☭TANKIE☭ LARPer or anything, i understand self-critique as well as critique of past versions of socialism done in the 20th century as well as recent 21st century ongoing attempts, however it looks like anarchists don't, they just like to shit on everything that doesn't fit their criteria the same way dumb twitter leninist role-players do. I know there's actual intelligent anarchists but a looot of these guys are high on ideology.

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Is this a psyop?

To what extent is stuff like pic related influencing and validating the rise of the far right?

What is scary about this shit is that is basically all american media. Most of the buzz of the day videos on /pol/ are also funded by American or filoamerican organization.

Are Americans try to make the world fascist?

While this board does recognize the role of liberalism in all this shit, I don't think it goes far enough.

Imho stuff like this is allowed and had an agenda: Not an anti.white agenda, but a massive psyop to invalidate leftism.

I can't be the only one to notice this. Articles like this are all the ammo the right needs.

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Are leftwing reactionary accepted here and there is something wrong with it?

My political evolution went something like this

>Nationalizing shit is cool

>Capitalism actually sucks and fuck america

>Reads marx

>Guess I'm a marxist now, still Soviet Union wasn't true socialism

>Watch hours and hours of content on the USSR

>Read Lenin,Stalin and mao

>Ok the USSR was good in its historical context

>Comes to /leftypol/

>Try to read theory beyond Marx, Engles, Lenin, Stalin and Mao


>Goes to /marx/

>Read Parenti and Furr

>Cries while watching Goodbye Lenin

>Understand that I'm not actually a Marxist but a reactionary who finds the Soviet Union peak civilization and wants it back

>Everything I read beyond Stalin, Marx, Lenin and Mao was just me trying to justify every action of the soviet union

>Cries while watching Goodbye Lenin

I don't literally give a shit about anything but restoring the Soviet Union. I like what they did, How they helped the workers of the world, women rights and civilization and the only mistake was being destroyed (which could have been avoided).

Anything beyond that (Critical theory ecc.) doesn't matter to me.

The soviet union was perfect, could have been fixed with a couple of reforms.

I don't have the knowlege or I'm well read enough debate anyone who criticize the soviet union because I don't care.

Leftcom or Trot talking points may be even true for all I care. I want red moscow back tho, anything else doesn't matter.

The only thing that needed to be fixed was avoiding people like gorbachov to have power. That's it. Am I a reactionary? What's wrong with my ideology?

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What do you lads think about space exploration and the "new" Mars craze?

Personally i think that it's a waste of resources but i don't know that much about it so i'm interested in other leftists opinions.

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anti-communist propoganda you experienced in your lifetime

feels good knowing the only reason why communism is so heavily shat on by right wingers and liberals is because they have no idea what it actually means.

Growing up (10 years ago) at Freedom highschool in florida I was taught communism is when you have to share your things with everyone, doctors and janitors are paid the same, and the government picks your jobs for you. I shit you not I had a highschool history teacher do an activity with us where he split us into teams and made us cut out cars from paper. then at the end he said "Okay the team that made the most cars is getting a C just like the team that made the least cars, thats why communism doesn't work… you don't get rewarded for how hard you work everyone gets paid the same.. see why communism doesn't work?" and "human nature, communism fails because people are greedy and someone always rises to the top and owns most of the stuff and it leads to evil hegemonic figures who just want more" (completely ignoring that this is exactly what happens with monopolies and walmartz in capitalism)

They un-ironically use the definition of feudalism to describe communism to children.

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Screencap thread

We're lucky enough to have some pretty sharp posters sometimes here on /leftypol/, and since it's been a minute so I thought I'd post some of the leftycaps I've saved. Feel free to contribute.

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Makeshift News Thread 8-7-18 Take 2

Make The Mods Happy Edition

Leading with Ortega's opinion this time

US doesn’t seek ‘good relations,’ it demands total submission – Nicaraguan president

US foreign policy is based on expansionism and oppression, President Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua told RT Spanish, adding that those countries that refuse to submit to Washington’s will are demonized and destabilized.

“We have always wanted to have normal relations with the US but we see only aggression in return,” Ortega said in an exclusive interview with RT Spanish.He believes Washington clearly does not need good relations, as it constantly “attacks” the Nicaraguan government. Ortega added that the US demands “submission, even servility,” while trampling on those who refuse to bow to Washington’s will.

The US has long sought to absorb Nicaragua into its sphere of influence, even resorting to a direct military occupation in the early 20th century, the president explained. “Washington’s expansionist culture” apparently makes the US unable and unwilling to forgive the ruling Sandinista National Liberation Front (FSLN) for the fact that it overthrew the last Nicaraguan dictator that was supported by the US, said Ortega.

Nicaraguans struggled against Washington’s subjugation of their country for most of the 20th century. Revolutionary Augusto C. Sandino, after whom Ortega’s Sandinistas are named, led an iconic guerilla war against US military occupation between 1927 and 1933. He was eventually assassinated by the forces of General Anastasio Somoza Garcia, who then founded the infamous Somoza dynasty that ruled over the Latin American country with US support for decades, ruthlessly repressing any opposition.

Ortega’s Sandinistas (also known as the FSLN) overthrew Anastasio Somoza Debayle’s brutal regime in 1979, thereby ending the dynasty. However, the US apparently did not give up on the idea of subduing Nicaragua, as it still “jumps at every opportunity to undermine the authorities of the government under any pretext,” according to Ortega.

Ortega points out that Washington actively pushes its “human rights agenda” through various NGOs as well as directly through its embassy in Managua in an attempt to present the Latin American state as a country “lacking democracy.”

“The activities of all those ‘human rights commissions’ has long turned into business,” he said.

The list of such NGOs working in Nicaragua includes the Movimiento Civico de Juventudes, which is funded by the US former secretary of state Madeline Albright’s National Democratic Institute (NDI) and the Instituto de Estudios Estrategicos y Politicas Publicas (IEEPP), which received extensive funding from the National Endowment for Democracy, founded by the US Congress.

At the same time, Washington does not hesitate to harass local businessmen by imposing various sanctions on them, simply for “having normal relations with the government,” Ortega said. Cooperation between some local business leaders and authorities “has become yet another reason for the US to demonize us,” he added.

Ortega’s remarks came as his country copes with months-long civil unrest, which began as student demonstrations over the government’s failure to handle forest fires in one of the most protected areas of the Indio Maiz Biological Reserve last April. Tensions increased further as the FSLN government announced unpopular welfare reforms.

Targeted opposition violence, along with a police crackdown, has led to a mounting body count on both sides. More than 100 people have died since the start of the unrest, according to government data. While Ortega has abandoned the unpopular reform plans and engaged in talks with the opposition, the violence in Nicaragua doesn’t seem to be subsiding.


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what the fuck happened to this board

why was I banned for criticizing literal nationalism? Iran is literally a despotic shithole because communists didn't tackle the religion problem early on. are we all seriously going to ban people for ignoring that or is this board just unironically being astroturfed by nazbols now?

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In the whole fuck fest that was the fall of yugoslavia, was he /ourguy/?

Maybe opportunist, but what did he do wrong?

Give me the definitive pill on this guy please. He has a frendly face and america disliked him, I can't bring myself to hate him.

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Was Saddam /ourguy/? He was supported by the USSR for most of the Iraq-Iran war and was the most prominent Ba'athist between Nasser and Bashar Al Assad.

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Left wing antisemitism

Hey /leftypol/, I am an European Jew and I've recently noticed a growing amount of antisemitism among leftists. Most of it stemming from Israeli policy, of which I am a big critic of.

There seems to be a growing number of people unable to set aside the difference between Israelis and Jews. This number is also growing due to immigration from the area surrounding Israel.

How do we go about fixing this? I've already volunteered at organizations in my country that help improve Jewish and Arab refugee relations.

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Was haltet ihr so von der RAF? Und könntet ihr euch vorstellen, dass eine neue Generation der RAF entstehen könnte?

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Worst Revionists

>destroys your revolution

>kills close friend

>undoes all revolutionary measures while claiming the revolution continues

>invites in the IMF and World Bank immediately after the coup, claiming his country “must go into debt”

>builds a popular front consisting of tiny “”””communist”””” parties that got butthurt with Sankara and adopts a action plan to institute “state capitalism”

I call Compaore a revionist because he was a member of the CNR and claimed to be “rectifying” Sankara’s revolution

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>try and be an edgy anarkiddy and say the state is somehow inherently evil

>blocks your path

What do Anarchist? How do you react when literally all of pre-industrial philosophy proves you wrong? How do you respond when someone points out the lack of rational thought behind your belief? How do you cope that ☭TANKIE☭s have a more thought out philosophical structure to their belief then you?

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Justice and re-education

What is proper rehabilitating labor and/or re-education? How do you know they aren't just faking it after cutting wood in Siberia for 4 months?

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The question of care and wonership in socialism and communism

Ok, this is a very important question, because I see this argument used so often by opponents of socialism, especially from the former Warsaw Pact countries, by people who lived in that time under that regime.

The argument goes as follows; "you can have your socialism, what with personal goods that you can use by grace of the State, but stuff that isn't anybody's but the State's can and will go to Hell. Anything that isn't owned or enjoyed as private property will rapidly deteriorate 'because it is everyone's and thus it is no one's,'" which I read as a sort of perverse Tragedy of the Commons scenario.

This brings me to another question

I recently read Cory Doctorow's Walkaway where he seems to get around the whole question of economy and logistics through the creation of a technological gift economy by refugees from capitalism, literally "walking away" from it, where everything is 3d printed and runs on windmills and DIY hydroponics and other things like that, where communities can be literally jump-started from dirt and drones scanning the area for cast-off materials and other shit.

I remember memeing Open Source Ecology and the reprap 3d printers around here, but I honestly don't think that people will just get up and leave, particularly if they see capitalism as an easier alternative, and I think that the people who are literally those which have the wherewithal and the discipline to live in Capitalism won't just abandon it. When was the last time anyone did a large DIY project around here, for free, or even their own subsistence. Capitalists will pay for skills, though of course they command the prices because they hold the state, so you would live at subsistence level, etc.


How would you create a sustainable socialism/communism that isn't a meme?

>inb4 eat the rich

What happens after you eat the last rich person? Would they even let you eat them? Or would they decide to create an army of gun drones to shoot all the people in the ghetto cause its cheaper and more fun than to just pay them off?

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Übrigens mal eine extrem wichtige Sache für alle geistig behinderten auf Leftypol, alle Parteien in der BRD-Treuhandverwaltungsgesellschaft sind Firmen! Also warum sollte ein Kommunist einer Firma mit dem namen "Marxistisch-Leninistische Partei Deutschlands" beispielsweise, beitreten?

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FOX Network host and The Wall Street Journal columnist openly advocate for economic strangulation and CIA intervention against Venezuela


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Are there any Khmer apologists here or can we unanimously agree Pol Pot was scum ?

I don't see how anyone could sympathize no matter what angle you looks at it …

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The Case For Revolution

From looking at how the working class would much rather side with fascism over anti-fascism, and anti-fascists being wrongfully labeled as "fascists," I do believe it is time for a revolution. I am an anarcho-communist and believe a revolution can restore democracy to the world by overthrowing capitalism and the State, therefore destroying almost all forms of oppression and hierarchy.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_GGCgFij3s [Embed]

what does pol think of video-related?

tl;dr, a town in the state of Michoacan decided they had enough of the violence and proceeded to kick out all the town's politicians and police forces. They've since boycotted political elections and banned political propaganda.


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/leftypol/ Essential Viewing

Since /pol/ has it's own chart of "essential" movies to watch in order to get the viewer to see into the mind of your average far-right /pol/ack (pic related), I figure it would make sense to make a similar chart for it's far-left counterpart. I'm planning on including 25 films, but I might expand the chart or make a part 2 if more are requested. Both documentaries and fiction will be allowed on the chart.

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Even if you dislike, China, Russia or Iran, if they go so does your hope of socialism, burgerland and their corporate masters will reign forever and we will have a "democratic"-technocracy-capitalist world order.

Increasingly people buy into the JBP crap of a "post-modern-neo-marxist", which heavily implies whatever capitalist machinations are out there, they have already created a boogeyman to be mocked and dispised in order to push an even worser state of capitalism, additionally aside from riots and protests there is still no actual threat from left-wing groups in 1st world nations to their host counties.

feel free to prove my assessment wrong.

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You have two choices.

One - return American government to full on establishment Bush-Clinton state, all non-standard political forces are purged.

Two - Trumpism on overdrive, with Republican supermajority and loyalty of federal agencies for 6 years unless external threats crush the government

Which would be better for the world socialism?

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The influx of right libertardians on 8chan

We need to talk about this. Within the past month i've seen an influx of unapologetic capitalists on /b/ and heard about them posting on /pol/ as well. I wouldn't be surprised if it's not a popular movement but that it is being shilled by a dedicated few autists from /liberty/ or cuckchan/pol/ or even r/the_donald or some other subreddit. I usually post on /b/ and i've noticed that every time you even mention economic distribution or workers' rights, you'll immediately get called a commie by about 3-5 anonymous shills afterwards. This gives me the impression it might be a campaign. It's hard to argue against them as every time i am forced to deflect the notion that i am a communist or else they'll post strawmen continuously for hours straight in an argument and it's getting tiring for one or two anons to argue for such a long time against these faggots.if butterfly-poster is a crossposter to this board, she'd agree. They've even been arguing against /pol/ fascists because fascists believe in government economic intervention meaning it's hard to use nationalist rhetoric against them as well. The question remains; how do we drive these faggots off our website? We must enforce an 8chan-specific, leftist monroe doctrine, or else our website might become another subreddit for r/the_donald users to crosspost on.

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Should progressive, anti-imperialist veterans who worked previously for imperial powers, be able to join leftist organizations?

Why are so many leftists wary about Mike Prysner at PSL?

Couldn't it help having people like him to teach self defence/ physical training/ firearm use etc…

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Jimmy Dore's 2nd appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience

Jimmy "Butchering Neo-Cons with a Hard-On" Dore drops more red pills on Joe Rogan, discusses Alex Jones at length and exposes the threats to free speech - watch here:


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>As we shall see later, we find this dictatorial apparatus replicated in the FAI’s leadership of the Spanish anarchist movement. We also find that the most famous anarchist movements were named after one man, in the Ukraine the ‘Mahknovites’, in Spain the ‘friends of Durruti’ – hardly the indication of a “non-hierarchical movement” with no leaders, which in real life never exists.

>E H Carr’s amusing biography of Bakunin summarised his work as follows, “Bakunin is known to the world as one of the founders of anarchism. It is less often remembered that he was the first originator of the conception of a select and closely organised revolutionary party, bound together not only by common ideals, but by the tie of implicit obedience to an absolute revolutionary dictator.” (Carr Bakunin, p. 455, my emphasis) It should be noted that it is precisely for the concept of the “vanguard party” that Leninism is condemned by the anarchists!


So who are the dipshits here that actually like this loser?


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Hey gaiz, I've decided I'm no longer going to be a Anarcho-stalinist queer-illegalist-pan-insurrectionist. Instead I'm joining a party which more closely matches my beliefs.


I would encourage all of you to check us out and consider joining

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How do we reclaim atheism, particularly the uncompromising and hard line variety from edgy New Atheist liberals who think Muslims should all be exterminated and so on?

I feel that it of course isn't the most important thing for any Leftist movement to be virulently atheist and as the New Atheists have shown being an atheist can be quite reactionary. However, I feel that in certain countries, such as the USA which not only still has a strong Christian Right that is currently the head of state and also allies itself with countries such as Saudi Arabia and Israel one of which is a literal theocracy and the other is run by a coalition of secular and religious Jewish supremacists, and perhaps countries such as those in the former Eastern Bloc where reactionary Christianity has taken hold, it still has revolutionary potential

I think a good starting point is when Marx spoke of religion being the "opium of the masses". I feel that a lot of people, even Marxists, misinterpret this line. He didn't mean necessarily that religion was used as a narcotic, although this can obviously be extrapolated from it as well. Moreso, Marx meant opium how it was still used by many medical doctors at the time, as a painkiller. Religion is like a painkiller that blunts the trauma of capitalism's crises. In the neoliberal era this has become extended into things which, while on the surface, aren't necessarily religious, essentially function as religion, such as Jordan Peterson's cult, Kekistan "memeing" and so on, while many literal opiate addicts and alcoholics in the USA are themselves also Christians. I feel that if we emphasize the "painkilling" function of religion and religious-type activities under capitalism it would help build a materialist atheism that would be very revolutionary.

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Asma, wife of Bashar al-Assad has been diagnosed with breast cancer.

Asma, wife of Bashar al-Assad has been diagnosed with breast cancer.


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/leftypol/ Approved Horror Films

We already had a thread for films with Leftist themes, but what about horror films? Any good ones you can think of?

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Leftist Youtubers

Guys, on holiday and bored. Need some good leftist youtubers besides hbomberguy, contrapoints and shaun. any suggestions?

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Canada and Saudi Arabia Tensions

What's gonna happen? Will nothing come out of this or is this the next Qatar diplomat crisis? I feel like it'll be the former (like what happened with Sweden) and both countries are just stroking their ego. Thoughts?

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I made another video, anti PragerU this time


Yo guys, last time I shared my first video here and you guys gave me lots of great advice so I thought about doing it again. In this new video I attempt to dismantle one specific right wing talking point completely - discussion on freedom of speech, and more precisely "tolerance" . Check out my arguments and tell me what you think.

Microphone is still complete fucking shite, and I might sound like a normie here and there - but it's intentional, as not to scare away ideological beginners.

Thank you in advance !

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There are no moral reasons for veganism/vegetarianism

Why should I be a vegan when non-human animals are stupid (incapable of abstract thinking and therefore no capacity for "morality") and ruthless in nature? Even stags (male deer), a herbivore that everyone thinks is so sweet and cuddly, have been documented to occasionally cannibalize other stags after fighting and injuring them to mate with the doe (female deer) standing nearby.

You are not morally superior to me just because you choose to eat a plant instead of killing a cow for meat. Bulls ram the fuck out of each other with their horns, sometimes to death (by bleeding), just so they can impregnate a cow and maintain a piece of their territory because that's all they're programmed to do. The only valid arguments for vegetarianism are environmental and resource-efficiency. If you can't understand that, you've been fed too much Disney propaganda in your childhood.

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The Problem of rape in the US military

32% of women in the military report being sexually assaulted. A 2012 Pentagon survey found that approximately 26,000 women and men were sexually assaulted that year. Of those, only 5,334 cases were reported. Of these reported, however, only 484 cases went to trial, and only 376 resulted in convictions.

Notable cases of sexual assault:




What can be done to foster a military attitude where soldiers are comfortable reporting rape?

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Current Russia

Apart from the supposed interference in the 2016 election (which at this point is a mere conspiracy theory), why do American liberals consider Russia to be an enemy? US-Russia relations were very good under Obama. It was neoconservatives like Mitt Romney who were pushing the idea that Russia was America's number-one geopolitical threat.

What threat is Russia to Americans, from any left-wing perspective. Liberals, SJWs, Communists, Socialists, Progressives are all welcomed to give their thoughts in this thread.

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anarchism and religion

is it possible for anarchism and religion to co-exist? ive heard of anarchist christian movements existing in the past.

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On Social Democracy

Engels, in Socialism: Utopion and Scientific expounds upon material that would be further elaborated in the Manifesto, particularly the phenomenon of the proletariat's expansion due to the decimation of the "Middle Class". Essentially, as capitalism progressively swept through Europe busting up feudalism, the liberal bourgeoise and petty-bourgeoise were facilitated, along with the modern working class we call the proletariat. At first this was a progressive force that gave folks "equal opportunity" and allowed them to succeed based on their own labor and tools. However, this is where one of capitalism's most prominent contradictions first arises. We see that soon enough, a new master class emerges, and to meet the demand for ever rising profits necessary to the capitalist system, obliterates the middle class through the development of ever more complex machinery. Because the petty bourg can no longer compete, they are forced downward into the proletarian fold, and from here only two classes remain: the capitalist and the proletariat.

Here it becomes clear why what would become modern Social Democracy can not achieve communism and in fact enables the perpetuation of capitalism. For the Social Democrat's function in society is essentially to protect not the proletariat but the "middle class" and any protections won by the action of the proles is awarded only insofar as it enables the perpetuation of the petty-bourgeoise. This would appear to hinder the ability of the Big Capitalists to perpetuate themselves as a class and indeed the Social Democrat's vulgarization of Marxism often posits their withering away into an indefinite "Middle" as a victory. However, because capitalism as such is not removed, the crises inherent and inevitable in capitalism's self-perpetuation allow for the obliteration of any victories achieved by either the petty bourgeoise or the proletariat and for the renewal of the conditions Engels and Marx described back in the 19th Century. Indeed, because Social Democracy is able to extend the "boom" and stagger its upward curve while simultaneously awarding reforms to workers and the middle class, it appears as if the boom bust cycle has been escaped entirely. It has in fact merely been postponed and guarantees that the next bust period will be even worse.


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3d printed gun schematics

The based and redpilled ancaps at Defense Distributed just won a lawsuit against the US government for the right to publish ghost gun schematics online

why aren't you seeding the files yet /leftypol/?




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I think I'm becoming a comrade and destroying the porky that I have in my heart …

But before destroying the bourgeoisie I would like to know if the current feminist movement could be an extension of the bourgeoisie?

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Look at those brows!



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>You must have previous working experience in retail field

>you must have had your drivers license for more than two years

>you must be able to lift at least 70 pounds

>you must have at least an associates in x

>you must have exceptional communication skills

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The Nuclear Dolphins

How many legitimate unironic posadists actually exist nowadays, are there any actual posadist groups still around?

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Zimbabwe Developments

Zimbabwe's President Mnangagwa appeals for racial unity ahead of election


>Former President Robert Mugabe's government supported the seizure of hundreds of white-owned farms which they saw as unfairly taken by settlers.

>But Mr Mnangagwa, 75, told a crowd in Harare that the controversial policy was a thing of the past.

>"We should cease to talk about who owns the farm in terms of colour," he said.

>"It is criminal talking about that. A farmer, a black farmer, a white farmer, is a Zimbabwean farmer."

>Mr Mnangagwa's move to ease the concerns of white voters comes ahead of historic elections on 30 July.

>It will be the first presidential poll since Mr Mugabe was ousted from power in November, bringing an end to his 37-year rule

>White Zimbabweans have traditionally voted for opposition parties such as the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) as opposed to Mr Mnangagwa's Zanu-PF party.

So i guess all you Anarcho-Liberals SucDems and Demsucc's are feeling glad that ebil Mugabe has been overthrown and the Literal Colonialists are Already planning their return to Zimbabwe?

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Post quotes, Memes, Facts, Media, Thoughts and what he did good or what he did wrong in your opinion.

Literally just a comfy thread about Stalin and the USSR at his time.

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Never mind the Nazis, FBI agents are about to get an earful on “left-wing gangs”


>But when the largest annual gathering of FBI agents convenes this weekend — FBI National Academy Associates — attendees will get an earful from someone who thinks the real threat lies with the far left.

>Dale Yeager, a forensic profiler and CEO of Seraph Inc., a private consulting firm for law enforcement, has been warning American law enforcement about left-wing extremism since the 1970s. On Tuesday, Yeager will headline the conference with his keynote, “Radical Left-Wing Gangs in America,” focused on "anti-fascist, or antifa, groups and their violent actions against civilians and police agencies in the U.S. and Canada.”


>“There is no uptick in white supremacy violence. That’s a statistical inaccuracy.”


>“All violent Islamist terrorist groups are politically left in their economic and governmental structure ideology”


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What stage of capitalism is this?

>The battle to win over viewers online may be reaching new levels of intensity. Comcast’s NBCUniversal is considering the launch of a streaming service that would pay people to watch it.

>The tentative name for the service is Watch Back and it would feature episodes of TV shows and web series from NBCUniversal’s own TV networks—like NBC, USA and Bravo—as well as those from outside web sites. To entice people to watch, Watch Back viewers would earn points that could be redeemed for gift certificates, according to several people with knowledge of the plans.


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Hey /leftypol/, a few weeks ago I got expelled from school for plagiarizing the Finnish Bolshevik. After that I had money from my part time job, but I got fired after the police arrested me for posting an IRA webm to my youtube, on bail now, but financials have been tight, I started living with a comrade, and at her suggestion I started attending the reading group she's a part of.

Today the socialist reading group has said next week's book will be Orwell's Animal Farm, to commemorate the anniversary of it's publishing. I'm dumbfounded. How can I get the organizers to realize the stupidity of this book, and if not change tracts, atleast how Orwell was a traitor to Marxism?

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One of the largest banks issued an alarming warning that Earth is running out of the resources to su

>One of the world's largest banks says the planet is running out of resources and warns that neither governments nor companies are prepared for climate change.

>The world spent its entire natural resource budget for the year by August 1, a group of analysts at HSBC said in a note that cited research from the Global Footprint Network (GFN).

>That means that the world's citizens used up all the planet's resources for the year in just seven months, according to GFN's analysis.

>"In our opinion, these findings and events show that many businesses and governments are not adequately prepared for climate impacts, nor are they using natural resources efficiently," the HSBC analysts said in the note.

>Many banks and asset managers have started factoring climate risks into their decision-making — a move spurred in part by former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg. But it's far less common to see multinational banks sound the alarm about climate change so explicitly in their equity research.

>To calculate Earth's natural resource budget, GFN considers the demand for natural resources — which includes food, forests, and marine products — as well as humans' effects on the environment from factors like carbon emissions. The combined total is designed give a comprehensive picture of humanity's global footprint.

>Earth Overshoot Day , the point in a year at which we use up a year's worth of resources, has been steadily moving forward in time since GFN first started tracking it. In 1970, we "overshot" Earth's resource budget by only 2 days — Overshoot Day fell on December 29, according to HSBC. That date has been pushed up by almost five months since then.

>HSBC's note also warned about extreme events resulting from heat, including the wildfires in Scandinavia and broken temperature records around the world.

>"As scientists work on attribution analysis for specific events — the general consensus is that climate change is making these events more likely to occur and more severe," HSBC said.

>The predicted effects of climate change are starting to become real. Wildfires have torn through California in recent years, and they're part of a worsening trend related to rising global temperatures. Other consequences include increased frequency of hurricanes and flooding , melting ice sheets , and greater numbers of heat waves .

>Recent studies have shown that global temperatures by the year 2100 could be up to 15% higher than the highest projections from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

>According to HSBC, extreme events have severe economic and social costs.

>"In our view, adaptation will move further up the agenda with a growing focus on the social consequences," the analysts said.


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Sarah Jeong actually racist

I thought normies were just shit talking, but I'm speechless.

The tweet was supposedly only up for 20 minutes before it was deleted 4/16/15

I thought it was fake, but it's not shooped and it matches her profile from the time. Wtf was she thinking?

Somebody tell me this is fake.

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Decentralist Free-Marketism


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When I realized Marxism isn't the only method to communism

So a little about myself. I'm what you would call a 30 year old boomer. I have a 2.8 grade point average, but never really had a direction in my life. For a long time I treated Marx words like The Bible until I realized there was so much shit Marx could not predict. He couldn't predict incels, hyper consumerism, environmental collapse. Hell if Marx were alive today he'd be some weaboo jacking it to Boku No Pico. (Who could blame him?)

I decided soon after I met my boyfriend (yes leftypol, I'm gay. I know half of you think I belong in a gulag but you try dealing with a woman for more than an hour at a time and come back to me) that I was gonna pursue something tangible. Something that was a useful form of industrial labor. So I thought mechanical engineering.

When you think of the mechanical engineer you think of the sleezeball car repairman taking old ladies for a ride charging somewhere around 400 dollars for a problem only costing him 50 and he could still make a profit at 100. This is when i learned the best way to be communist was to be capitalist. Extracting wealth from the tired old lady barely able to cover her own medical bills, or the down on his luck everyman that just lost his job. These are the people who voted for Trump and they are my enemy. They might've banned Alex Jones but they won't ban Dan Harmon if they ain't got enough money to retweet about his hilarious pedo skits. You communists need to learn to have a sense of humor.

In two years, I went from some punk spouting Marxist talking points to making 200k a year and using that money to actually have some impact on the world around me. Did you know that 50℅ of all precedings to Father Tree's brand of cheesecake go to third world children to go to school? Ofcourse you didn't. That's what Mao would've had wanted. I know it. So I buy my sexy boyfriend cheesecake every week enjoying the decadence of capitalism excess so kids can go to school and meanwhile me and him, deserving progressive lgbtq people can reap the benefits of society and the reactionaries are plundered and we never even had to pull a trigger or mention a gulag.

Capitalism is communism.

This is not to say there are not faults. If I was a less intelligent man (or a mod of leftypol) I'd automatically presume this is revisionism and or "state capitalism". Cause you know… Facebook and Google. But after binge watching Steven Universe with my hubby I came to the conclusion that the problem was the lack of an identity for these platforms. What even is a Facebook? A faceless book more like it. Does it identify as a man or a woman? And sense its busy banning Alex Jones and others they can't be men or women either. There's your spectre. Marx never could have called that. He probably never would've had even watched Steven Universe, let alone recognise the nuances. I'm sorry, he just wasn't that smart. Unlike Rebecca Sugar who I'm pretty sure is relatively to Emma Goldman. I mean what are the chances two androgynous Jewish ladies would espouse such woke messages cryptically? Not high.

Make the money

Eat cheese cake

Don't give homophobes a pot to piss in

That's communism bro.

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SJW, idpol, "cultural appropriation", 3rd wave feminism, "check your privilege" etc. You know what I mean. What is the actual theory behind these positions? Or what is the official term for this whole ideology? Just "leftist liberalism"? SJWism?

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Rehabilitating Feminism

I think there's a lot of valuable insight into some areas of what you might call "academic feminism", and indeed Marxists headed the first real women's liberation movements, but now I feel that the rank-and-file of feminism, what we might call the "movement", has degenerated into a cult of man-hate as it has come to be dominated by what are in essence the female versions of MRAs, MGTOWs and incels. What's more, it's infested with idealists whose idea of praxis is just pissing everyone off when they're not engaging in some circlejerk of performative bullshit.

Is there any way to reclaim feminism and rehabilitate it into something more Marxist, more materialist and dialectical? To try to separate out the wheat from the chaff and create a new feminist movement that leaves those nutty bumblefucks behind?

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Albanian Imperialism

"Enver Hoxha is dead, while Greater Albania is happening and won't come to nothing. Kosovo and Albania have no border, instead there is a border between Serbia and Albania and it is 111 km long,"





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Education under Socialism

How will be arrange education under socialism? It's obvious that the current capitalist education system is pretty shit. How will communism enable us to improve upon it?

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Is becoming a hikkomori (or a recluse) because of the alienation brought on by neoliberal capitalism?


I feel like in a communist society where workers own the means of production and you can actually have a job worth a damn young people locking themselves in their rooms and feeling crippling anxiety and depression 24/7 would be non-existant.

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Why did Cornman murder Stalin and doom all of Humanity?

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woke vets

Wow we're such woke vets and totally against capitalism and the military that we sign our letters begging for cash with our imperialist titles

pic from patreon

wake me up when they're exposed as a psyop please

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Is there a leftist alternative to MDE?


I mean the guy is a shithead but i feel like he is unique in really capturing the nihilism of the modern world. I just wish someone were able to capture that but directing it toward porky and the land owning elite instead of immigrants and homosexuals and DA JOOZ

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Smalltime Class Traitors

Have you EVER seen one of these traitorous fucks stop someone who wasn't black or obviously poor to look at their receipts? How do they get this job? I hate these people, they always make me feel like I'm in a fucking airport terminal when I'm bringing out my groceries. Then they wave at me and I have to acknowledge them somehow or they might think I'm suspicious.

/classcucks/ general I guess

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ITT: CIA memes

this thread is for the creation of new CIA memes, given that there is only 39 in leftybooru

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I have created a board called >>>/ecopol/ for the discussion of environmental politics. It has become completely overrun by /pol/

If you are anprim, communalist, ecosocialist, or just interested in environmental politics, please stop by and post so that this thing doesn't become complete shit even before it gets off the ground

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Can we talk about QAnon?

I know it's a shit subject, but do you realise that this will be a part of American political discourse for decades?

I've been ignoring this until now, but I can't get over it.

Where the fuck is this cringe leading to?

Green frogs, anime avatars and forum LARPs are now mainstream political figures.

Reality is stranger than fiction.

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Insanely Fascist Godzilla Trailer

- US & POW/MIA flag hangs limp, then jerks right in a sudden gust of wind, symbolizing turn to full-blown reaction

- "Mass extinction we feared has already begun," IE climate refugees and Yemen genocide

- "And we are the cause, we are the infection." Proles are just an infection that should be wiped out or contained.

- "Like all living organisms, the Earth's unleashed a fever to fight the infection. Its ORIGINAL AND RIGHTFUL RULERS, THE TITANS." The fascist empires that base their legitimacy on "muh heritage" will "wake up" and cleanse the earth of filthy proles.

- "These creatures have remained in hiding around the world." Fascist cells have lain dormant and lurking in all the imperialist states biding their time.

- "And unless all the titans are found, our planet will perish, and so will we." Only "our fascists" can fight "their fascists" and save the empire.

- "I'm sorry but this is the only way." Self-explanatory.

- muh troops, F35 product placement

- "Long live the king." GOT tie-in, fascist revival of feudalism.

- Godzilla given an F35 escort by USAF


Hollywood movies are getting really overt with this shit.