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/leftypol/ reading list

Official /leftypol/ reading list

In this thread, various members of the community have listed recommended literature regarding leftism, i.e. economics, political theory, philosophy and other subjects related to leftism. Some recommendations are for starters, or for those in advanced literature.

/Leftypol/ has many ideologies, Marxist, Anarchist, Left-com, etc. so there is a variety of different literature with different viewpoints.

Reading literature is recommended, as it helps you understand leftism better and is much better than reading Wikipedia synopses.

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Moderation Feedback and Review

This is a thread for giving feedback and complaints about moderation actions.

Because there are so many new Volunteers right now, we are bound to hit a few bumps in the next week or so. If you see a thread deleted or moderated in a way that you think is unfair, please post ITT, preferably with evidence or a detailed description of it. This won't guarantee a reversal, but it will help bring it to my attention. Volunteers who turn out to be repeat offenders and refuse to learn will have their accounts removed. You can also monitor our actions here:

https://8ch.net/log.php?board=leftypol

https://8ch.net/bans.html

As well, Volunteers who can't decide what to do about something should post ITT to get feedback before acting.

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FAQ (READ THIS if you're from /pol/ or reddit)

Hello and welcome to /leftypol/. Please check the board tags for related boards. These are our groups:

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/leftypol

http://qchat.rizon.net/?channels=leftypol

Leftybooru:

http://lefty.booru.org/

/leftypol/'s magazine:

http://bunkermag.org/

Other leftist chans/backups:

http://www.getchan.net/

http://www.bunkerchan.org/

FAQ:

>How can you call yourselves leftist politically incorrect?

/leftypol/ posters are allowed to voice opinions that offend liberals, SJWs, and so on. All sects of leftism are allowed to post on /leftypol/, leading to plenty of fighting and shitflinging between leftists, which other forums would tend to ban. However, this was only a minor consideration in the naming of /leftypol/. Since the concept is simply a leftist version of /pol/, the entire name of /pol/ was retained.

>I'm not a leftist can I post here?

/leftypol/ welcomes debate from non-leftists. Non-leftists frequently come here to ask questions and raise topics for debate. Board moderation here is more focused on maintaining a good board index, so non-leftists have to be on better behavior as OP than they do as participants in someone else's thread. If you aren't b8ing or shitposting, your thread is likely to stay up.

>Are you liberals? Are you SJWs? Do you like Obama? Are you all Zionists???

While there are a few liberals here, the majority of posters on /leftypol/ are radical left. They may still be socially liberal, but their economic stances are decidedly not liberal, and likely heavily opposed to the liberal order. As an extension of this, posters here are opposed to "SJWs," because they see them as economically liberal, and socially oppressive. Stances on Obama here range from indifferent, to angry– and the only poster here who shills for Democrats still does so under the premise that they're a lesser evil.

As for Israel, leftism is anti-Zionist. It is not anti-Jew. Unlike /pol/, /leftypol/ fully supports Palestinians, and doesn't think they're "mudslimes."

Pretending to be an SJW or Zionist will very likely get you banned.

>Why did you leave /pol/ and why does this board exist?

We may have "left /pol/," but /pol/ never left us. Since /leftypol/ is so prominent on such a /pol/-dominated website, a lot of debate here comes from /pol/ visitors who are interested in learning about leftism. You are more much more likely to find right wing posters on /leftypol/ than you are to find left wing posters on /pol/. /leftypol/ exists to help the 8chan community focus on leftist topics without being slid or flooded to death.

>Do you support gun control?

While posters on /leftypol/ have varying stances on gun control (training requirements, mental health checks, etc.), they are overwhelmingly in favor of arming the proletariat, and are against banning guns. Famous leftist heroes such as Marx, Orwell, and Huey P. Newton were all pro-gun.

>Do you support "national" socialism?

There are a few posters here who believe that "national" socialism is or can be a leftist stance, but Strasserism and NatSoc are generally regarded as a joke here. You're better off being honest that Nazism is right-wing. Attempting to cloak your hatred for foreigners and other races in pro-worker rhetoric, or similar ploys, might get you banned.

mod action log:

https://8ch.net/log.php?board=leftypol

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Stop watching porn

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Chapo Trap House

https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/episode-79-our-values-are-under-attack-feat-tim-heidecker-2617

So the past two free episodes have been pretty lukewarm tbh. The interview with Taibbi was ok but there were no big insights. Tim is not that interesting and as much as they shit on the Daily Show it seems to me they are falling it its routine.

>Trump is a dumb old man with holes in his brain

>Ha ha he is so fucking dumb and bumbling

>Ha, he has the brain of a child

Pretty tiring. What does /leftypol/ think?

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Affirmative Action

What do you think about affirmative action?

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Who /situationist/ here?

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This is driving me crazy. Why isn't there a single photograph or portrait of Max Stirner? There's little evidence he even existed, and his death remains a mystery as well.

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Anti-prostitution thread

Daily reminder that prostitution is not a "victimless crime", as it is inherently exploitative, not a choice, not a real job, and fuels trafficking. We should strive towards the abolition of this abusive practice through the implementation of the Nordic model, which decriminalises the sellers, and criminalises the buyers and the pimps.

Discuss.

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Why was he really assassinated?

Was it because he was sleeping with Mafia queens and was a huge risk to the nation?

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Whats the most autistic thing a stormfag or alt-righter has ever said to you?

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NEW OC THREAD

/leftypol/ choir

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNU0nraMLqc

THE AUSTRALIAN INTERNATIONALE

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How do you respond to the argument that extracting surplus value is justified because a capitalist takes risk?

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>the liberals are just doubling down

save me from this hell

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NEW SOCIALIST VIDEO GAME ANALYSIS: NEOCOLONIALISM!

https://youtu.be/ugxOkXjRtek

I hope you guys like it! As always I'm interested in all feedback.

Here is my first video (for those who haven't seen it) on Adventure Communist.

https://youtu.be/cybroVSuxVo

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What if I told you...

>"redpilled" term derives from red pill concept from The Matrix

>Matrix created by the Wachowskis

>Wachowskis are tranny liberals

>"redpilled" becomes an alt-right meme on /pol/

Am I missing something in this transition, guys?

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The Red Pills Challenge

This is the Red Pills Challenge. It triggers folks both right and left. It will probably trigger you, but might lead you in some very new directions, too.

Full video is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltmZ_Uq9ueA

"The challenge is to watch all eighteen red pills without getting triggered by cognitive dissonance or offended indoctrination, considering the evidence without taking the blue pill back to the simplistic perspective most people live in daily."

Some of these red pills everyone here already knows about, but some of them are very unusual. Totally worth a watch/listen.

webm excerpt coming up…

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r/soc got new mods

Democracy was a mistake: https://www.np.reddit.com/r/socialism/comments/5wdiv8/new_mods/

It's almost indistinguishable from rightist parody, except that the name-dropping is too extensive.

TFW that one mod didn't end up Petrograding everyone and introduced free application of mod membership.

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Start an automation coop

Friendly reminder that once the whole process of food production is fully automated, as in a fully working system engaging in a proper productive cycle that is able to self-repliclate, self-reproduce, self-repair and self-transport; and that when such system is only not aproriated by the bourgeoisie merely as separate modules at the disposal for profit production, but for and by the exploited class there will be no necessity to work, ending capitalism

Start an automation R&D coop today, stop falling for marxist cult propaganda

That's all

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Why do people and nations become degenerated (as /pol/ would call it) after living in prosperous economies? Traditional family structures get broken up, people are more willing to explore their sexual sides etc etc

This is not special to today's western nations (People also became degenerates in the last periods of the Roma empire)

Is what /pol/ calls fun just actually bourgeois waste?

What is it? What is actually happening in Marxist terms?

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COMRADE DORE ABSOLUTELY DESTROYING THE DEMOCRATS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bAkJ7Zt4wA

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How has he done so far in terms of leftist views?

Can someone give us good analysis that's not /pol/ Hurr durr God emperor can do no wrong

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>tfw Zizek is 67 years old

>tfw Badiou is 80 years old

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2018 Midterms

How the fuck are the Dems going to deal with this? The only possible win I see is Nevada, the rest of the midwest is vulnerable to the GOP. If Trump goes full populist, I can see the midwest going red.

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/Rojava/ general

Based Apo edition

>what is Rojava?

The Democratic Federal System of Northern Syria, also called Rojava, is a region in northern Syria that has become self-governing in the wake of the Syrian Civil War.

>why should /leftypol/ care?

The ideology of the Democratic Union Party (PYD), the leading party in the coalition which currently governs Rojava, is a libertarian socialist strain of thought called Communalism. Communalism was developed by the American ex-anarchist Murray Bookchin and later attracted the attention of Abdullah Öcalan, the imprisoned leader of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) in Turkey. From there, the ideology spread to the predominantly Kurdish Rojava.

>so they're Kurdish nationalists?

Kurdish nationalist parties have a presence in Rojava, but the aforementioned governing coalition is multiethnic. Arabs, Assyrians, and other minorities are present in Rojava, and strives have been made to represent these groups in the politics of Rojava.

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What's the punishment for reactionaries, fascists, and other counter-revolutionaries going to be post-revolution?

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Meanwhile, on bizarro leftypol….

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Are all aryan ubermencsh neets?

Just wondering, where are the "right-wing death squads"? I guess mom's basement is too warm and comfy.

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>communists want to dismantle the nuclear family and consider cultural and religious bonds irrelevant

>still want to build a society around strong participatory communal bonds

I don't get this shit you all seem horribly confused

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/pol/ here can anybody explain to me why so the transgender meme has become so prevalent and why it is dominating so much public discourse?

this shit is a horrible joke pushed by greedy plastic surgeons normal people will never actually accept this shit

it is fucking horrific

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White Helmets

Literal Al Qaeda just won an Oscar. What the fuck is wrong with this planet?

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Why do so many liberals object to regicide? Seriously talk to them about the French or Russian revolution and so many are sympathetic to the crown.

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Trolodomor

Making a second thread for this as the other thread does not have the same info or objective in the OP and I know we can do better in regards to impact. I think we can get some cheap keks from this and it should be pursued.

Based on one of the most overlooked tragedies of the 20th Century, BITTER HARVEST is a powerful story of love, honor, rebellion and survival as seen through the eyes of two young lovers caught in the ravages of Joseph Stalin's genocidal policies against Ukraine in the 1930s.

We have managed to knock the score down 4% with just five posters, and the angry review one person left in response tells me that this is worth replicating on a larger scale. I suspect that if we impact the score enough somebody will notice and set off a chain reaction of grainhoarding and butthurt.

Step one

Go to https://www.guerrillamail.com/inbox and copy the email you are given

Step two

Go to rottentomatoes.com/m/bitter_harvest_2017 (link broken to avoid referrals) and register an account. The first name and last initial will be your display name. Try not to pick anything that gives it away as a raid like Kulaksdeservedit Z and pick something that matches the sort of comment you'll leave. You will be sent an activation email after doing this and will need to click the link inside it to leave a review.

Step three

You are now a fully qualified web critic. Write a comment and rate it 0.5 stars (don't rate it 1 star, that is twice the number of stars you are allowed to give it!). Suggested tropes are: Frothing tankie, paid Russian internet shill, Phil Greaves, general holodomor /leftypol/ shitposts or Ukrainian conspiracy theorist. If you're feeling like going the extra mile try and find a tl;dr post about the holodomor from reddit or quora or where ever and paste it into there (make sure it makes sense without hyperlinks and you remove the citation tags if it has any). You can preview your comment after submission and before it appears by hovering over your username and clicking "Your reviews". Screencap it and come back here.

Good luck comrades, and remember:

THOSE KULAKS SURE WOULD BE SORE… WITHOUT THEIR HOLODOMOR!

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Bordiga and the rise of Mussolini

Everyone jokes about the laziness of leftcoms, but let's not forget they once had enough power that it had real repercussions.

>Bordiga’s ultra leftism proved absolutely appalling and must count as a major factor in the failure to challenge the rise of Mussolini. This is the subject of a brilliant book by the late Tom Behan which details the rise and enormous potential of the wonderfully named Arditi del Popolo (ADP, People’s Shock Troops),24 the spontaneously formed mass-based Italian anti fascist movement. It developed a united front perspective with one aim—halting Mussolini’s mobilisations, by mass based force if necessary, with maximum involvement across the political spectrum of the left. Alas, although many PSI and PCI activists took part, this was not the official line of these organisations.

>By July 1921 at least Gramsci had belatedly realised the serious threat that fascism posed and called for Communists to support the ADP.25 But Bordiga disagreed. His first major article on the subject published in Il Comunista on 14 July argued: “The proletariat’s revolutionary military organisation must be on a party basis… Communists therefore must not take part in activities organised by other parties, or which in any event arise outside the party”.26 And even Gramsci was not always fully consistent with his support for the ADP.27

>A year later in July 1922 with Mussolini just three months away from taking power, Bordiga mocked the prospects. He wrote: “So the Fascists want to burn down the parliamentary circus? We’d love to see the day!”28

http://isj.org.uk/lenins-left-wing-communism-an-infantile-disorder-revisited/

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who /dirtbag/ here

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>go to socialist meeting

>people start talking openly (complaining) about /leftypol/

what the fuck guys

How do I hide my powerlevel?

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Have they started making fun of themselves?

This is just another example of how the right wing uses conspiracy theories to retroactively reconfirm their political ideas and legitimize their actions. It's just used to mend and fill the wholes in between obvious faults in their theories.

>>>/n/518870

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How do we make sure people get enough of those useless commodities under your ideological school of socialism to keep them happy?

hard mode: cant go full DDR

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How can people watch this latest interview with Zizek and not come to the conclusion that he is a neofascist or at the very least he has a romance with reactionary ideas?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByKXcIPi7MI

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THIS IS MY FUCKING SHOW AND IM FUCKING TALKING. CUT HIM OFF MIKE.

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Listen 🙉 up men 👱. If you look like THIS 💸 💸 💸 🐽 🐷 🐽 💸 💸 💸 then you won't be getting THIS 🚫 ❌ 👰 👩 🛀 ❌ 🚫. Only when you fight 💪 💪 💪 the bourgeoisie 🚔 💰 🚨 💰 🚨 💰 🚔 🐖 🐖 🐖 and bring the class struggle to its inevitable conclusion and enact the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism ⚡ ♻ 🚀 to make real the promise of Liberte, Egalite, and Fraternite 🗽 🗼 ♥ do you get the fruits of this womb 🌊 🌊 🙋 🌂 😻 😽 🎆 🎇 💦 💦 💦

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Crisis in the Kremlin has a new demo (Yuri). According to their greenlight page all events are done.

http://en.kremlingames.com/igra-krizis-v-kremle/

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Right-wing libertarians everyone.

>being a neocon interventionist is better than being an anti-intervention paleocon

rly makes u think

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Daily News Thread 2/27

Trump's Budget Won’t Touch Entitlement Programs, Mnuchin Says

Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said President Donald Trump’s upcoming budget won’t touch entitlement programs such as Social Security or Medicare, and will instead focus on ways to produce long-term economic growth by slashing taxes.

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-26/mnuchin-says-upcoming-trump-budget-won-t-touch-entitlements

Trump budget plan boosts Pentagon, trims State Dept, EPA: officials

One of the officials said Trump's request for the Pentagon included more money for shipbuilding, military aircraft and establishing "a more robust presence in key international waterways and chokepoints" such as the Strait of Hormuz and South China Sea.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-budget-idUSKBN16605M

Trump navy secretary nominee withdraws citing disruption to financial interests

Philip Bilden announces his decision only days after White House said he was 100% committed to the role.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/27/trump-nomination-navy-secretary-withdraws-philip-bilden

Primary for Virginia Governor Tests Power of an Anti-Trump Campaign

The campaign for Virginia governor is expected to offer insights about the political landscape: the first statewide election of the Trump era set in a state that both major parties’ presidential nominees contested last year.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/26/us/virginia-governor-trump-northam-perriello.html?_r=0

Eviction Companies Pay the Homeless Illegally Low Wages to Put People on the Street

"We thought that this had been resolved years and years ago."

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/article/20852999/eviction-companies-pay-the-homeless-illegally-low-wages-to-put-people-on-the-street

Store closings are part of the business, but is this business as usual?

2017 is just two months old, but we have already experienced what feels like a year’s worth of major store closing and liquidation announcements from national brands.

http://www.chainstoreage.com/article/store-closings-are-part-business-business-usual

Scraping by on six figures? Tech workers feel poor in Silicon Valley's wealth bubble

Big tech companies pay some of the country’s best salaries. But workers claim the high cost of living in the Bay Area has them feeling financially strained.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/27/silicon-aa-cost-of-living-crisis-has-americas-highest-paid-feeling-poor

Poll: Majority thinks media too critical of Trump

A majority of Americans believe news organizations are too critical of President Trump, according to a Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll released Sunday.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/321250-poll-majority-thinks-media-too-critical-of-trump

May Reiterates Opposition to New Scots Independence Referendum

U.K. Prime Minister Theresa May remains opposed to a second referendum on Scottish independence, her spokesman said, after a report that Scotland’s government is preparing to call another vote pushed the pound lower.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-27/may-reiterates-opposition-to-new-scots-independence-referendum

North Korea spy agency runs arms operation out of Malaysia, U.N. says

Glocom is a front company run by North Korean intelligence agents that sells battlefield radio equipment in violation of United Nations sanctions, according to a United Nations report submitted to the Security Council seen by Reuters.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-malaysia-arms-insight-idUSKBN1650YE

Germany's rightwing AfD party struggles to cope with internal crisis

Alternative für Deutschland’s support has slumped since a leading politician called for Germany to stop atoning for its Nazi past.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/27/germany-rightwing-afd-party-struggles-internal-crisis

Trump-Style Australian Populists Gain in Polls as Turnbull Flounders

Anti-immigrant populists and the opposition Labor party advanced in opinion polls as Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s government descended into infighting.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-26/trump-style-aussie-populists-gain-in-polls-as-turnbull-flounders

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The whole idea of Marxism is based upon the Surplus value theory - the idea that workers not being paid the full amount they produce is theft.

Yet this ignores the simple fact that a workers value or production comes from capital investment as well as labour investment - and without this capital investment the workers output will significantly fall.

In the Australian economy - a mining worker produces $363 AUD an hour yet an agriculture worker produces $41 AUD an hour. This is not due to the mining workers being better but more investment in machinery, capital goods and human capital.

Also Marxian economics ignores that wages can often be placed above equilibarium. When a downturn or upswing in the BTC occurs, wages do not rise or fall as they are sticky - simply the number of workers employed rises or falls.

Thus a worker can be paid above surplus value in certain cases, is this theft from the capitalist?

- Post keynisiean economics teacher

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RT celebrates 100th anneversary of the Russian Revolution

https://1917.rt.com

Includes a quiz: https://1917.rt.com/#!/en/quiz/58ad3a391c24c87ea0094438

How knowledgable are you on the revolution, comrade?

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Hey guys, I'm putting together something for you that's been in the works for a bit, but I need some feedback from you. How much do you think you could spend on a rifle? Second, how much do you think you could spend over a year to get other gear to make you prepared for more serious training? I'm trying to get you each set up as best I can, but I know some of you are poor students. Note that I'm only asking those that are serious about doing this.

I will discuss with you in the future how I envision this to go forward, but I know that my perspective isn't the same as yours. What I consider to be a reasonable price and what you might consider that to be are different things. However, I can see when things that are Good Enough™, and that's really what we are aiming for. Hopefully you all have been working out since I last uploaded. Maybe some of you don't know who I am, but if you are interested in getting the skills necessary to defend yourselves not just as a single armed civilian, but as a part of a machine bigger than yourself. Combat is, after all, a team sport.

As always, be aware that any and all info I give you is with the intent of teaching you self-defense and I do not advocate using anything I tell you for the commission of crimes.

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How do I use this website

Please do a subreddit for leftypol, imageboards suck. They are fucking unusable.

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>NazBols shitting up the board

>Nazis posting regularly

>liberation of repressed races is considered mere identity politics

>socialist feminism is considered identity politics

>at least as many positive opinions of Trump as negative or neutral

What the fuck happened to /leftypol/? Ive been here since it split from half/lit/ and this is the most reactionary the board has ever been. /leftypol/ was not supposed to be and should not be some retarded actually reactionary brand of socialism, we just wanted a place to talk openly and where no one could ban us for saying nigger and faggot or being critical of liberal narratives pushed by SJWs. The idea was not that we opposed liberation of people from reactionary social conditions like gender and race, it was that we wanted that badly and thought (correctly) that SJWs and reddit fauxsocialists were being incredibly counterproductive and disingenous.

Of course we've had a variety here since the beginning and there was always a range of opinions on social issues with plenty of conservative tankies and such, but now there is a large Nazi sympathetic population here and it's pulled the whole board to the right.

Remember that we are not resisting liberalism better by aligning ourselves with social reactionaries, we're just undermining ourselves that way.

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Are there any good books that describe how daily life was in previous societies (feudalism, etc.)?

I have a hard time imagining life before capitalism.

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Night in the Woods

Leftypol, we should talk about this new videogame that just came out: Night in the Woods.

The protagonist is literally /ourgirl/

>is a black cat

>name is mae, as in maeday

>cute as fuck (waifu material) step aside alunya

>beats up cops and doesnt afraid of anything

>setting is a union town

>has a literal revolutionary syndicalist secret society ghost grandpa

>"I don't believe in money! I didn't choose to be born in this society!" - Mae

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Can the Board Owner make Max Stirner filter into Fredriech Engels please?

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Lacan, the materialist?

Hello /leftypol/, today I would like to propose you a passage from Adrian Johnston's "Badiou, Žižek, and Political Transformations: The Cadence of Change" wherein he goes over one of Zizek's four biggest masters: Lacan (the other two being, broadly, Hegel, Marx and Althusser), and whether he can be considered a materialist or not. You can find the source of what I'm about to share without you in PDF related, pages 119 to 124.

Without further ado:

>Among both sympathetic exegetes as well as certain wary critics, the notion that a sharp division separates two distinct phases of Lacan's teaching (as transmitted via le Séminaire) has become a matter of widely accepted doxa. On the one hand, during the 1950s, there is the Lacan of the Symbolic, the advocate of a "return to Freud" wherein, through a focus on such early Freudian texts as The Interpretation of Dreams, The Psychopathology of Everyday Life, and Jokes and Their Relation to the Unconscious, the unconscious is shown to be "structured like a language"; the libidinal economy and its correlative forms of psychical subjectivity are shaped and controlled by the elaborate play of "signifying chains." This period of Lacanian thought, departing from a valorization of structural linguistics as the "pilot science" promising elegantly to streamline psychoanalytic metapsychology, places a great deal of emphasis on the transindividual network of the symbolic order, namely, the big Other within whose web the "subject of the signifier" remains inextricably entangled. On the other hand, according to this quite popular and predominant portrait of the "two Lacans," there is also the Lacan of the Real, the thinker who suddenly realizes that language is "not all," that the structures of the Symbolic are far from being primary as far as the phenomena relevant to analysis are concerned. Through an abrupt shift that purportedly begins in the seventh seminar (1959-60), Lacan demotes linguistic/ structural factors from their previous position of theoretical centrality. The realm of the symbolic order is preceded (sometimes chronologically, sometimes "logically") by the obscure, opaque domain of das Ding, by an X that forever eludes representation and signification while simultaneously shaping the movement of the Vorstellungen constitutive of Freud's psychical apparatus.

>Both Badiou and Zizek each align the Lacan of the Symbolic (i.e., the early Lacan) and the Lacan of the Real (i.e., the late Lacan) with idealism and materialism, respectively. In Théorie du sujet (a text mobilized by Bosteels in a debate with Zizek over Badiou's ambivalence toward Lacan), Badiou, during the course of an effort to reformulate a viable dialectical materialism, is one of the first authors to insist on this division within Lacan's oeuvre (he speaks of a trajectory "from the primacy of the symbolic to the consistency of the real"). Moreover, he goes so far as to posit a division internal to the concept of the Real (this split within the Real mirroring the larger split between the Symbolic and the Real): "The line of demarcation between idealism and materialism in Lacan's thought must . . . be drawn through the very concept of the real, splitting its core in order to mark off those aspects that remain tied to a structural lack and those that point toward a torsion, or destruction, of the structure itself." For Badiou, the Real is, when operating as part of Lacan 's model of "structural causality," the evanescent, vanishing "lost cause" (à la, for instance, the tuché-automaton dynamic from the eleventh seminar), the originary yet impossibly elusive principle of any closed Symbolic system. (Badiou describes this as a version of the Real still utterly dependent upon the structuralist "algebra" of the signifying chain.) However, according to Badiou, another Real besides that hypothesized in the form of a causality of lack exists: there is the Real as material "consistency," a Real that Badiou discerns the vague outlines of in the later Lacan's ruminations about the topological properties of knots (hence the Badiouian contrast between algebra and topology, between an idealist Real and a materialist Real). Zizek likewise highlights these dual faces of the Lacanian Real, although he argues that they represent the recto and verso of one and the same surface: in the Zizekian view, the Real stands for a dialectical "convergence of opposites," being both an inaccessible, withdrawn absence as well as an excessive, overwhelming plenitude. For Zizek, the Real confounds efforts at cognizing it through non-dialecticized oppositions such as ideality versus materiality.

(Cont.)

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PISA 2015

Singapore tops latest OECD PISA global education survey, Japan, Estonia, Finland & Canada are the 4 highest performing OECD countries

www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3TCpzSe4cs

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wbl-PflEc0

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZjxkDA1s-c

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xpOn0OzXEw

www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiczDPx96ac

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdMN8ioUYGc

www.nier.go.jp/kokusai/pisa/video/How_does_PISA_work_640x360.mp4

all4ed.org/debunking-seven-myths-about-pisa/

www.oecd.org/pisa/pisafaq/

www.oecd.org/pisa/data/

52.31.27.158/PISAoccupations/

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Religion needs to be purged from the face of the planet, both Putin and Trump are trying to combine nationalism with religion and create more brain dead followers that why who cannt be saved or despooked to keep them in power and always use religion to avoid question or fanatisize people by calling them "Christians"

Fusing government and churches is the worst thing one can do, that is the reason why Lenin turned churchs into warehouses

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Accelerationism WORKS

Whenever I read on the revolutions of the past, they always seem to have been started when the pressure that had increasingly built up from tensions between the ruling class and the lower classes were released by events that would unleash the anger of the lower classes. This usually took the form of lethal military actions by the state against peaceful protests, probably having the masses realize this form of protests impotence to a government that is willing to kill innocents to prevent reform, as well as mobilizing revolutionary militias. The Trump administration only needs to make a mistake like this, and we could very well have a revolution in America.

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Honestly, what the fuck is wrong with him?

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SMASHIE THREAD

Smashie Thread

Post riot porn/discuss riot tactics and shit you'd like to smash ITT

I'll start by saying Hong Kong knows how to Smashie better than anywhere I've seen, just look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxhB-a640_U

As for tactics, I've heard that if you put fire ants in a jar and throw them at the riot police, they get under their uniforms and shit and start biting them. Also, use spraypaint on the cops and water balloons filled with paint: Seriously. The reason why? If it hits their masks, they have to take the masks off to see, if it hits their shields, they have to look past their shields to see. Paint is Opaque.

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Daily News Thread 2/26

Trump Administration Makes Its First Move to Build Border Wall

U.S. Customs and Border Protection issued a preliminary request for proposals Friday, saying it plans to release a formal solicitation around March 6 “for the design and build of several prototype wall structures in the vicinity of the United States border with Mexico.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-24/trump-administration-makes-first-move-to-build-that-border-wall

Keith Ellison Loses DNC Race After Heated Campaign Targeting Him for His Views on Palestine

Minnesota Democratic Congressman Keith Ellison lost his bid to become the chair of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) on Saturday after a scorched-earth smear campaign targeting his religious faith, his affinity for the Nation of Islam in his youth, and his support for Palestinian rights alongside a secure Israel.

https://theintercept.com/2017/02/25/keith-ellison-loses-dnc-race-after-heated-campaign-targeting-him-for-his-views-on-palestine/

Aggressive cuts to Obama-era green rules to start soon: EPA head

U.S. President Donald Trump's administration will begin rolling back Obama-era environmental regulations in an "aggressive way" as soon as next week, the head of the Environmental Protection Agency said on Saturday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-epa-idUSKBN1640S9

Trump Administration Cancels Back-Channel Talks With North Korea

After approving plans on Friday for informal talks in New York between a North Korean delegation and former American officials, the Trump administration reversed course hours later.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/25/world/asia/white-house-north-korea-talks.html?ribbon-ad-idx=4&src=trending

Buoyed By Anti-Trump Activism, Democrat Wins Delaware Special Election

An army of volunteers, many from out of state, flooded the state Senate district for Stephanie Hansen.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/delaware-special-senate-election_us_58b22659e4b060480e089560

Underground network readies homes to hide undocumented immigrants

A group of religious leaders that goes by the name Rapid Response Team is preparing private homes to provide refuge to undocumented immigrants as the immigration crackdown broadens.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/23/us/california-immigrant-safe-houses/index.html

D.C. Charter Teachers Seek to Unionize

If the Paul Public Charter School teachers succeed, they’d be the first unionized charter employees in the nation’s capital.

http://prospect.org/article/dc-charter-teachers-seek-unionize

AFL-CIO Dismissing Staff Amid Declines in U.S. Union Membership

The AFL-CIO is dismissing dozens of staff members as part of a restructuring amid continuing declines in union membership and fresh political threats to labor rights.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-23/afl-cio-dismissing-staff-amid-declines-in-u-s-union-membership

Jeremy Corbyn to take 'share of responsibility' for Copeland defeat

Labour leader says party unity is key to success as deputy Tom Watson calls on Unite boss Len McCluskey to show support.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/jeremy-corbyn-take-responsibility-labour-copeland-byelection-defeat

Germany’s Schulz and Merkel neck and neck in poll

SPD and CDU would tie with 32 percent of the vote.

http://www.politico.eu/article/germanys-schulz-and-merkel-neck-and-neck-in-poll-election-2017/

No debt relief for Greece, Germany's deputy finance minister says

Greece must not be granted a "bail in" that would involve creditors taking a loss on their loans, Germany's deputy finance minister said in an interview broadcast on Sunday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eurozone-greece-germany-idUSKBN1650AX

More Trouble for Uber: 100,000 Drivers in India Went on Strike

The 13-day strike is slowing down as government officials meet with ridesharing companies and their drivers. But Uber India's problems are far from over.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/more-trouble-for-uber-10000-drivers-in-india-went-on-strike

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Anti-National/Anti-German

Why aren't you an anti-national (AKA anti-German)?

The anti-national tendency is a broad antifa (anti-fascist) tendency characterised by its rejection of nationalism (i.e. national chauvinism or national antagonism), and its rejection of nationalism's foundation, "the nation" and the nation-state as such.

The anti-national tendency has its roots in the struggles against resurgent nationalism during "German reunification." The first campaign that gave birth to the anti-national tendency was this mobilisation against "German reunification" in 1989/1990, under the slogan "Never Again Germany!" (Nie Wieder Deutschland!)

The core aspect of the anti-national critique, is that it does not seek to "solve" the problem of nationalism through pluralism. It does not advance concepts such as multiculturalism, a multiethnic Germany, or a pan-European or post-national identity. It does not try to expand the category of the nation to be more inclusive. Instead it seeks to overthrow it completely or to break it open. The project does not flee into an "abstract" universalism, but directly counters the concrete forms of nationalism existent in their social context. It does not affirm pluralism as a political strategy, but harnesses the "power of negativity" to overthrow the concrete social forms of capitalist society and nation-states.[Robert Ogman]

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Zizek's analysis on /pol/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MH2pffArnw

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What did he mean by this?

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Can anyone here refute my ancap friend?

"I don't think I deserve anything I didn't pay for. ("People who want all the things taxation pays for, but don't wanna pay for it")

Of course everyone should get to decide where they spend their money on. I don't care if it goes to the "whole community", I don't care about the whole community. I care about what I care about, and I want to pay only for what I care about.

You really think that government protects you against the bad corporations? Government IS bad corporations.

Privatizing isn't more expensive than what we have now, how could it? Prove that it would, cause you can't.

If the roads aren't paid for, they deserve to crumble. Don't you see what it would mean if there were roads that weren't paid for but didn't crumble? It would mean that money was taken from those that made it, and given to those that didn't, is that fair to you?"

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>alright, so everything is shit but I can't do anything about it as I'm just some guy

>besides, most people are stupid and only ever vote for the right wing anyway, so apparently the people don't even care

This is literally the end of every discussion where I successfully persuade people that bourgeois democracy is a farce and we're ruled by the wealthy business-finance elite. They just turn to total fatalism instead. Namedropping socialism at this point will just send them raging about the USSR and how it was a total failure and we'd just get an even worse dictatorship. What do?

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If a socialist revolution broke out in Europe, would the American comrades of /leftypol/ come over to help out? Would our European comrades travel to America if it was the other way around?

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Forced memes are memetic imperialism.

Prove me wrong.

Pro tip:you can't

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The more I learn history the more I'm becoming convinced that there really is nothing special about our modern liberal capitalism.

Is it true or it it the bias of the people who I'm watching YouTube videos of/listening to podcasts of

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Is the logical conclusion of a FALC society a irrelevant shited one?

Also, I have a feeling that NazBols are vehemently against this idea

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What are some of your favourite things to say against Ayn Rand fanboys, especially if they think they are above the masses?

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The Day After

What's exactly in store for different streams of leftism once a shift - whether prole revolution, vanguard, democratic decision - is done? Anyone ever thought about it or, dare I say, planned even?

I'm not asking for historic references, but in respect to our current societal dynamic, what would happen? Say a ML party gets the steer of a country. what happens to the leftcoms, anarchists, and so on? Or the state is disintegrated and anarcho-communism is established, what are tankies going to do?

I know this is a LARP-y question, but let's be serious for a moment, how would the denizens of /leftypol/, or rather the party in control, handle other streams of thought?

How would it unfold? Historic necessity? Logical conclusion to a theory (e.g. lolbergs turning fascist)? compromise/revisionism? You can talk about (what could amount to) a realistic scenario in your country to not complicate things.

For the record, how would reactionaries handle the Day After, after their supposed victory? We've had this recent Jaco-dust-bin about the contradictions of the alt-right. They're already having ripples what with the "alt-light" thing, but what about the bigger issues they'd face once they've destroyed all of the non-puritans (non-antisemites, gays, etc)? Given /pol/'s pathological delusions, it's not unlikely they haven't thought about what would happen after.

I imagine their first two schisms would be:

1. Between Christians and fedoras, mostly due to the radical Christians trying to erode fun (filter applies fittingly this time).

2. Ancaps and Dontredonmies vs Nazis without the slightest clue of economic theory or planning.

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We really need to organize and push.

I know that sounds obvious as fuck and sounds like "Hurr durr revolution, muh left unity" LARPing, but I am serious. Sure, recently we have had a few small victories, such as Milo getting axed, Spencer taking a fist to the face etc. but have we had any real victories?

No, we haven't.

As much as I hate to say it, we need to somewhat learn from the "Alt-Right" movement and what they are doing. When Alt-Right faggots show up somewhere, normalfags see fun, memes, cute cartoon frog pins and snazzy suits and haircuts. When Lefties (The few real Lefties there are) show up somewhere, normalfags see crazies in black hoodies burning things holding a flag of a nation that killed 70quatrillion Kulaks.

That needs to change if we are going to make any progress. We need to look fun and inviting and viable, and consciously distance ourselves from nations/movements with "Bad rep" among normal people. There is a reason Alt-Righters (usually) don't prance around with swastika armbands. First off, we need to ditch symbols like the Hammer & Sickle, and come up with something more "acceptable" for people to associate with us. Maybe something historical many don't know like the C.N.T bandannas or something. I don't know, that's for you guys to figure out. Next, we need a Pepe. We need something that can be associated with our message, something that is easy to slap onto images, nice looking and unique. I personally think Alunya and related characters would be perfect for this job. A cute catgirl that is pretty easy to draw could be great for propaganda. And something Alunya has over Pepe and related characters, is that she is cute and could help swaying younger people leftward a ton.

Regardless, you get the idea. We need to expand, find a public footing and outpropaganda the right-wingers.

Discuss.

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Zizek on Joe Rogan

What do you think guys? Can we pull that of?

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Are the chans actually more left-wing than we think? I've noticed that a lot of the 'chart' threads on r9k show people's political compass as bottom left. Why do the stormfaggots and bootlickers dominate all the conversations?

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"Red"-Pilling People

I have a couple of friends (who are all redditors, but don't browse or use /r/soc) with liberal, almost leftist views (they all wanted bernie to win). How do I go about introducing the idea that capitalism is harmful to them, as well as pushing them towards some form of socialism? Any good references to show, arguments to bring up? They're pretty darn close to being leftist, they just need a nudge in the right direction.

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daily reminder che was the greatest leftist of all time

his entire foco theory was designed to shit on larpers: "Guevara states that what happened in cuba contradicts the defeatist attitude of revolutionaries or pseudo-revolutionaries who remain inactive and take refuge in the pretext that against a professional army nothing can be done. These forces who sit down and wait until all necessary objective and subjective conditions are given without working to accelerate them are excellent."

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/econ genera/

Economics general, discuss economics.

A clarification on the circuits of capital

Often times on leftypol, we toss around the circuits C-M-C, and M-C-M'. However, we should strive to be more accurate. There actually exist 3 circuits of Capital that exist in developed commodity production.

M-C-(L+Mp)…P….-C'-M'

The dots there represent a break in the circuit of production.

P-C'-M'-C-(L+Mp)…P(P')

And

C'-M'-C-(L+Mp)…P….C'

Using these circuits and the knowledge of their combinations within the circulation of capital, we can move beyond the circuits scratched by Marx in Volume 1. This is my short contribution before I go to sleep.

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Take the test /leftypol/ I wanna see how you do.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

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/Leftypol/ shows up at HWNDU to confront 4ch/pol/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3h-uxgOKcs

So /pol/ has been taking over the Shia Laboeuf streams and asking people to debate and calling liberals zombies because they are afraid of intellectual debate. /leftypol/ shows up and try to debate them then they start autism screeshing at him and ganging up on him.

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Can we use Chaos Magick to help our cause? If yes, how?

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SSNP

Does /lefty pol/ approve SSNP? Ba'athism has failed and man fuck Arabs. backstabbing cunts they back stabbed Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Palestine and my country Syria. these shitskins are also wanting to destroy Egypt but they failed for now.

seriously the entire Levant and Iraq should leave the Arab identity and stick with the levantine one. let the shitskins rot in their sand.

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Brocialism and Manarchism general

Who /Brocialist or Manarchist/ here?

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Miserable Diary of a Philosophy Student: Entry no.2

>go to political philosophy class

>there's only two of us, students, and the teacher I like to call "Mr. Neverwrong"

>my fellow student is a perverse subject (in the Lacanian classification)

TL;DR for those not familiar with the Lacanian martial arts: the pervert feels intense solidarity with the Law, in this case the authority figure of the professor, and is repulsed by any kind of revolutionary thought. The fellow student is an actual cop, btw, and has told me that he "used to" beat up the homeless, so possibly a sadist…

anyway…

>in this semester we are going to learn about Locke’s version of the social contract

>in the first part of the course the prof. contrasts the different versions of social contracts: Hobbes', Locke's, Rousseau's

>wikipedia.ppt

>(why are they paying you for this?)

>they have one thing in common: an original or muh natural state of man:

>Hobbes: muh horror of constant war and hell on earth → we need to give up all of our rights so that a monarch can provide provide us security

>Locke: muh free-for-all capture of private property → we need a republic to secure the gibs

>Rousseau: muh Garden of Eden untouched by civilization → let's return to nature, "participatory democracy"

>prof nonchalantly drops this line:

>"Rousseau thought that private property wasn't natural, haha!"

>pervert kid laughs with prof (pervert kid always laughs with prof)

>ask:

What's so controversial about that?

>prof: "You mean private property? Nature has always been subject to private property."

>mfw

>can't hold back:

Private property is the theft from the commons. It's not the "natural" state of man.

>[laughter of prof's and his minion's follow]

>"Silly anon, nature is free for grabs – or do you think that people in ancient times allowed each other to take each others stuff?"

But prof, you are conflating private and personal property.

>"What's the difference?"

>post toothbrush_vs_land.jpeg

>Even if so, what makes you think that before private property there was communal ownership as opposed to _a lack of ownership_

"Because communal economy?"

>[haha x2]

>proceed to describe how from the start of agriculture relations of ownership and slavery develops

>"But that's pure speculation. When we started to relate to nature it was already subject to personal ownership."

>give anthropological counter-evidence

>"But that's still just one possible interpretation. The 'commons' doesn't exist. There's only the multitude of individuals!"

"Well, in the liberal anglo-saxon tradition, that is."

>"Well what other tradition is there?

"Marxist?" (I quote:) "Society does not consist of individuals, but expresses the sum of interrelations, the relations within which these individuals stand."

>"But that's totalitariatyriant!

>(mfw)

>"Look, anon, I'm not an expert in Marxism. Marx was a really good economist, but it was only Engels who tried to force communism on Marx!

>proceeds to paint a picture of a "liberal marx"

"but that's complete horseshit Ok, let's examine private property not in its primitive environment but in our late stage capitalism."

>[haha x2] "We are not living in capitalism, anon!"

>(mfw)

"Then what? How would you define capitalism?"

>How would YOU, define it?

>>>>(Mr. Neverwrong)

>start to give definition, but start with private property, so get interrupted:

>"WE DON'T HAVE PRIVATE PROPERTY BECAUSE WE DON'T LIVE IN A PROPER DEMOCRACY"

>pervert student: "Yeah!"

"Whatever, do you agree that there's a fundamental difference b/w slavery, feudalism, and capitalism in terms of how work is organized, that we didn't have labor as commodity under the market under feudalism?"

>"But anon! Marx's proletariat was a Hegelian, idealist construction! Do you want to go back to totalitariatyriant communism or something?

"Some aspects of actually existing socialism were better than what we have now."

>[HAHA x2]

>pervert student: "I bet you'd have loved forced labor on collective farms!"

two more years of this shit

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Is Magneto /our guy/?

>lost his family to Nazis

>remarkable skill in militant leadership and rallying speeches

>values natural talent no matter where it comes from

>seeks to ultimately destroy the oppressors to liberate the oppressed

>believes in equality, justice and freedom

>has a fucking cool cape, outfit and metalbending superpowers

>likes red

Magneto did nothing wrong.

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The Final Solution

Our, or at least mine, line of thought about dealing with /pol/ was to call out on their spooks and generally stirner-posting at them.

Instead, when dealing with idpol from other "fellow" leftists I used to ignore it, and I see it's commonly referred as the best practice here too.

Lately I've been posting about how we can effectively deal with idpol using the basic concepts passed on by Stirner, but I think I've found an even more effective practice to deal with /pol/yps.

The only thing that can make them more mad than being their precious values laughed at, is to precisely call and treat them the same way they treat "leftists", and I mean precisely to call them sjw and use the very same tactics they use to ridicule liberals against them. Since in the end they're still fucking spooked liberals, it'd work like a charm.

Pic related : that was excellent

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gersoc mauser

/pol/fag here, any idea what the symbol stamped on this mauser is from?

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What Thomism Has to Do With Marx

http://tradinista.com/what-thomism-has-to-do-with-marx/

>Karl Marx! A great foe of religion, even among the terrible geniuses of 19th century Germany! I beg your patience, dear reader. MacIntyre shows us a way home with these three guides, and we will have to consider them in order.

>Why Aristotle? If it is our friends who teach us how to live a fulfilling human life, it is Aristotle who supplies the vocabulary to call this life “good” or not. Human flourishing, or a good human life, is not like the flourishing of non-human animals. Other animals flourish when they are healthy and reproduce in a suitable environment. But there is a much greater range and diversity in what we would consider good human lives.

>Aristotelians, in the broad sense of the term MacIntyre uses, consider the facts about what makes human beings fail to flourish. Our reasoning may begin in particular domains of our lives: what makes me a good mother, a good teacher, a good store-clerk, a good friend? It then branches out in reflection, is it a good life for me to be a father, a perpetual student, or an artist? As we reflect, we may encounter conflicts: is it better for me to be a good lawyer or a good friend? When, from our failures, we learn what virtues we require to acquire specific goods in our lives, we learn about what the good itself is for human beings.

>One notices that, for MacIntyre, most clear-headed “Aristotelians” in history likely have never heard of Aristotle. To be an “Aristotelian” is to disagree with the modern skeptics, to argue that human beings are unique because we are animals with language.

>Furthermore, to be “Aristotelian” is to further argue that, despite the great range of possible lives open to language-users, we can take a kind of external view of human lives (as we would the life of a dog or a squirrel) and deliberate with our friends about what is good or bad for our flourishing.

>Why Thomas? Thomas liberates us from one confinement of Aristotelianism. For Aristotle, we must be virtuous and fortunate to live good lives. That Solonian pessimism, still runs through Aristotle: count no man happily fulfilled—eudaimon—till he is dead. How can we be said to live worthwhile lives, if suddenly tragedy strikes us in our old age, as it did Croesus and Oedipus? She who lives to be a mother – if her beloved child dies an untimely death, Aristotle must admit, her life is unfulfilled in the last analysis.

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/pol/ is sore about Bat'ko's youtube channel and wants to dox him and fabricated images of us as if we we post pictures of ourselves like /soc/ from halfchan.

http://8ch.net/pol/res/9361005.html#9362568

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Why are nearly all experts of economics - the professors either moderately right or left wing?

I see alot of keynisiean and classical professors but except for a few notable exceptions like wolf they are all supportive at least in part of capitalist exploitiation

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ITT 1917

Ok /leftypol/ it's 1917

You're a citizen in Russia

What do you do ?

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Anti-Work Reading List

Work now? Never, never; I'm on strike. — Arthur Rimbaud

Historical Essays

• Paul Lafargue: The Right to Be Lazy (1880) | https://www.marxists.org/archive/lafargue/1883/lazy/

• William Morris: Useful Work v. Useless Toil (1884) | https://eddieplayfair.com/2014/12/28/useful-work-v-useless-toil-by-william-morris/comment-page-1/

• Oscar Wilde: The Soul of Man under Socialism (1891) | https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/wilde-oscar/soul-man/

• Herman J. Schuurman: Work is a Crime (1924) | https://beyondresistance.wordpress.com/2013/04/04/for-work-is-a-crime-by-herman-j-schuurman-1924/

• Bertrand Russel: In Praise of Idleness (1932) | http://www.zpub.com/notes/idle.html

• Edward P. Thompson: Time, Work-Discipline and Industrial Capitalism (1967) | https://libcom.org/files/timeworkandindustrialcapitalism.pdf

• Fredy Perlman: The Reproduction of Daily Life (1969) | https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/fredy-perlman-the-reproduction-of-daily-life

• For Ourselves: The Right to Be Greedy (1974) | https://libcom.org/library/right-be-greedy-theses-practical-necessity-demanding-everything

• Marshall Sahlins: Stone Age Economics (1974) | http://www.primitivism.com/original-affluent.htm

• Zerowork: Political Materials (1977) | http://libcom.org/library/zerowork-journal

• Ivan Illich: The Right to Useful Unemployment (1978) | https://www.ica.org.uk/sites/default/files/downloads/Ivan%20Illich_%20The%20Right%20to%20Useful%20Unemployment.pdf

• Raoul Vaneigem: The Book of Pleasures (1979) | https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/raoul-vaneigem-the-book-of-pleasures

• Bob Black: The Abolition of Work (1985) | http://www.primitivism.com/abolition.htm

• Os Cangaceiros: Industrial Domestication (1987) | https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/os-cangaceiros-a-crime-called-freedom-the-writings-of-os-cangaceiros-volume-one.html#toc13

• André Gorz: Critique of Economic Reason (1988) | https://libcom.org/files/andrecc81-gorz-critique-of-economic-reason.compressed.pdf

• Alfredo M. Bonanno: Let's Destroy Work, Let's Destroy the Economy (1994) | https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/alfredo-m-bonanno-let-s-destroy-work-let-s-destroy-the-economy

• Krisis: Manifesto against Labor (1999) | http://www.krisis.org/1999/manifesto-against-labour/

Contemporary Books

• Bifo Beradi: The Soul at Work (2009) | https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/soul-work

• Kathi Weeks: The Problem with Work (2011) | https://www.dukeupress.edu/the-problem-with-work

• CrimethInc.: Work (2011) | https://crimethinc.com/books/work

• Federico Campagna: The Last Night (2013) | http://www.zero-books.net/books/last-night

• Jonathan Crary: 24/7 (2014) | (https://www.versobooks.com/books/1570-24-7)

• Byung-chul Han: The Burnout Society (2015) | http://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=25725

• N. Srnicek & A. Williams: Inventing the Future (2015) | https://www.versobooks.com/books/1989-inventing-the-future

• Peter Fleming: The Mythology of Work (2015) | http://www.plutobooks.com/display.asp?K=9780745334868

• Nick Ford et al.: Abolish Work (2016) | http://littleblackcart.com/books/culture/abolish-work/

• David Frayne: The Refusal of Work (2016) | https://www.zedbooks.net/shop/book/the-refusal-of-work/

Updated Sites

• Abolish Work | http://abolishwork.com/

• CLAWS | http://whywork.org/

• International Institute of Not Doing Much | http://slowdownnow.org/

• r/AntiWork | https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/

• The Idler | http://idler.co.uk/

• The Real Movement | https://therealmovement.wordpress.com/

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Really makes you think

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modern version of hammer and sickle

The hammer and sickle doesn't accurately represent the working classes anymore. Let's come up with a modernized version! Bonus points if you can include for service industry workers who are by now the majority.

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Traditionalist Degenerates: Notes Toward a Žižekian Analysis of /pol/

A recent article on Jacobin (https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/02/paleocons-for-porn/)was published attempting to articulate a critique of what they perceive as the contradictions of the American new right: In one hand theirs is a culture that thrives in “porn and promiscuity”, in the other it promises a return to “traditional marriage.” Jacobin claims this is a contradiction that cannot hold; De Sade versus Burke. The purpose of this essay is to show how, far from being a contradiction that will break the alt-right apart, it is the dialectical relation between those two poles that provides insight into the psychic universe of the average 4channer, his symbolic universe is precisely the space occupied between those two opposites. (part 1/?)

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CPC

Can someone explain to me why the Communist Party of China is invited to attend the International Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties?

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nazis watch out

who /SwoleLeft/ here?

https://melmagazine.com/meet-the-leader-of-the-swoleleft-403a29ebbe89

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has /leftypol/ ever shoplifted?

Do you look down on people who do?

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Any time a person says to you that capitalism works. Just tell them about fractional reserve banking. It is literal a private bank creating money out of thin air. It is fraud on a global scale and it is at the heart of capitalism. It is infarct the motor of capitalism. And it is the biggest FRAUD in the history of our planet and we as citizens accept this.

Let's say you're a hard working guy, you deposit $1000 into a bank, the bank uses your $900 and lends it out to other people ON INTEREST keeping only 10% of the money ($100) in the actual reserves. Now let's say you want to go back to the bank and actually withdraw all your money – that money which you just put into the bank? It's not there anymore. It has been lent out to another person. This is why banks fear bank runs – when a lot of people come to withdraw their money at once.

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Theres nothing wrong with executing traitors to the communist party and gulaging all political enemies

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Youtubers/anyone who face reveals targeted by pol

We get attacked so often god damn.

http://8ch.net/pol/res/9361005.html#9361352

They're targeting YouTube people/livestreamers this time.

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Paleocons for Porn

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/02/paleocons-for-porn/

>A new right is alive in America — and it’s weird. While some alt-right figures like Richard Spencer aspire pretentiously to a style of European blood-and-soil right-identitarianism, the real creative energy behind the new right-wing sensibility online today springs from anonymous chan culture. Nihilistically reveling in shock, transgression, and trolling, you’re more likely to find these young men posting diaper porn, My Little Pony hate, and swastika-laden Pepe memes than listening to Wagner or reading Alain de Benoist.

>Feminist analysis has often characterized the movement’s rank hatred of women as a throwback to toxic patriarchal traditions. Its stylistic roots, however, could be more accurately traced back through avant-garde movements to the Marquis de Sade, whose scandalous libertinism and extreme pornographic writings led to his imprisonment, than it could to Edmund Burke, who wrote amid the tumult of the French Revolution that “manners are of more importance than laws.”

>Chan culture’s shitposting and crapflooding shares more with the Paris ’68 slogan “It is forbidden to forbid!” than it does with Phyllis Schlafly or William F. Buckley. Its dark obsessions with cruelty, rape, humiliation, suicide, murder, race, and genocide taboos have led chan culture to an avant-garde antimoral sensibility not unlike French dramatist Antonin Artaud’s theater of cruelty: “There can be no spectacle without an element of cruelty as the basis of every show.”

>In the Guy Fawkes mask-wearing days of the early Occupy movement, pro-hacker progressives did a great deal to glamorize 4chan because of its leaderlessness and its nonhierarchical form. But as Evgeny Morozov warned, this network fetish could easily cause us to overlook the real content of any movement’s ideas, which in this case remains the lowest form of a vacuous, faux-ironic, sniggering moral imbecilism. Its empty postmodern style has energized and fused with the openly antisemitic and white-supremacist core of the alt-right who mean what they say literally but snobbishly roll their eyes at the normies and “basic bitches” who “don’t get” their sophisticated non-irony as they Sieg Heil and very clearly lay out their vision for a white ethno-state.

>Infighting over the precise definition of “alt-right” may continue for years to come, but the broadest interpretation encompasses various, often warring, factions from the white supremacists who consider themselves the rightful owners of the term, to followers of Nick Land’s Dark Enlightenment, to the “alt-light,” which includes social media figures like Milo Yiannopolous, right-transhumanism, traditionalist neo-masculinism, and right-wing chan-influenced culture broadly. What these factions have in common is that they constitute a total break from the preexisting American conservative movement and, in different ways, they all seek to reassert the power of some combination of the last remaining identity group yet to be admitted to the identity politics tent — white heterosexual men.

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There's more attention on black Americans now than in decades. Why has no Malcolm X figure or Black Panthers-like organization come out of it?

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if you could choose between having FALC and 60 billion $ right now which would you honestly choose?

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Community Garden

Has anyone had any experience creating a volunteer community garden in their own neighborhood?

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Is Gamergate spooked?

The whole thing revolves around idpol

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discord link por favor?

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Daily reminder of the one and only true accurate political spectrum.

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Are "black" or "women's" politics really all identity politics?

Class is determined by your objective position in the relations of production. As such, it cannot be described as an identity because the individual has no control over it — he can't decide "not to be" a prole. He can't do away with bourgeois exploitation by wishing his status away by "identifying as" — the only way opportunity he gets to change his condition is by changing the material basis of his existence.

But isn't that the case with, say, blackness? By that I mean of course to refer not to some ahistorical racial essence but to the social condition of being black in a given society. I mean, you have no control over your blackness, which is determined by how society sees you — if you look black, you're going to be treated like a black person.

You can't decide "not to be" black, even if you're one of these "transracial" loons — because in the end, all that matters is how you are perceived and not how you feel about it. If the cop think you're a nigger and therefore trouble, he isn't going to care about how you actually identify as white because most of your forebears were from Ireland when he points the gun at your face.

In that sense, isn't being a woman or a sexual or racial minority somewhat analogous to class and therefore a status subject to politicization away from identity issues? Note that this approach doesn't in any way denies the centrality of class in social domination. It simply concedes that class is not the only social variable within that framework.

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>"capitalism and socialism aren't mutually exclusive"

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Anti-Communist Film Flops!

The new film "Bitter Harvest" shows the Ukrainian "famine" aka "Holodomor" and has heavy Anti-Communist and Anti-Russian rhetoric.

The Film Got 9% On Rotten Tomatoes

Biggest Anti-Communist film flop this year!

Stalin is up in heaven laughing his ass off.

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>the Russian revolution was a bourgeois revolution

What was his problem?

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liberal cringe thread?

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Reminder that automation + AI is a great thing. There is nothing good about a job. They should all be automated. The sooner all the jobs start to become automated the more clear and apparent the inherent contradictions within capitalism will be. Capitalism will die in your lifetime and will be replaced by socialist utopia and then afterwards by communism, this is inevitable as Marx has said. Initially there will be pain but eventually it will be subside. Stop being a retarded luddite and let the capitalist techies build communism for us, comrade. Peace!

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''Der Untermensch''

Hey, if you want to read it in English, it's here >>>/pol/9372764.

>inb4 why should we care

Pic related.

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Votes at 16

Dice rollRolled 2, 5, 2, 5, 4, 4, 3 + 9 = 34 (7d5)

What are your opinions on giving 16 year olds the vote?

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bordercucks btfo

how will they recover?

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So what really happened in the Holodomor?

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Will history absolve him?

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Calexit

What do you think about this?

I think that with the lukewarm pigs out of the way, we can finally live the way Jesus and Marx would have wanted, in harmony though sharing our wealth and love. Showing love for our neighbor and the downtrodden while using the technology of Silicon Valley for the benefit of all!

Say ==YES #calexit== for a more responsive, inclusive government!

http://www.yescalifornia.org/

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Why is this man so smart and woke

Legit Alex jones is here to save us from the Nee world global communist government who's making the damn frogs gay

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Eugenics

What does Leftypol think about eugenics?

What are good arguments for not supporting eugenics and the "all stupid people should be killed off" meme?

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It Begins/DSA General Thread

DSA is expecting a (second) massive surge of membership after this weekend both if Keith Ellison becomes DNC chair, or, more likely, when the Democrats anoint the Obama Administration choice of Tom Perez.

I assume FBI and even the Democratic Party has totally written them off since they were quite literally the left wing of capital (and cucks) under Harrington then a miniscule group until 2016. Their membership is now around 17,500 making them the third largest socialist organization in US history. Second being CPUSA in the '40s and first being SPUSA under Debs.

What are people's thoughts on this? Apparently the presumed attack from the Dem Party is going to be on DSA's whiteness. A few buisness/investing sites have published articles about how dissapointed/fearful they are of DSA's twitter presence.

I know my local branch and many others have recently made an electoral group for running independent candidates or primarying Dems as open socialists. Many DSA branches have also been taking over their local Dem Party branches. Otherwise I can't imagine the DNC giving a shit about them.

https://twitter.com/DemSocialists

https://www.facebook.com/demsocialists/

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>/pol/ "how do we fix Africa" thread

>Literally hundreds of replies along the lines of "kill them all" "bring back colonialism" "create super-aids" "nukes bro"

>Not even one serious reply

>Make a long post about revolutionary Burkina Faso

>Get 0 (you)s

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We should do a shitposting operation on Samantha Bee. She is the frontrunner for bourgeois idpol liberalism.

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*

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Only 52 days till the Neo-Nazis try and ressurect Hitler from the grave.

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Was he /ourguy/ ?

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The "deep state" war against Trump

They're actually unashamedly revealing these people as if they're a good thing. The "deep state" is a misnomer. This is the informal network of capital that holds the power. The state exists only to protect the interests of capital and not in formal institutions but informal networks of capital – this is how oligarchy rules and power is always held in informal structures not formal institutions. It's not the "deep state". It's the regime and they are revealing it. It used to be a conspiracy theory to even talk about these people and now they're being applauded as some kind of saviors.

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Feminism

>tfw every socialist party and groups identify as feminists in your country

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Who are all these people she's listing?

Are any of them actually worth a read?

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What is /leftypol/'s opinion on Indonesia's founding father Sukarno?

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3rd wave feminist liberals

There is so many 3rd wave feminists who pretend to be Marxist/anarchist, especially on reddit and the many far left groups on Facebook, they practically ignore class outright. What's the best way to deal with these kinds of people?

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>leftypol goes to shit yet again because board owner is too stupid to implenete OP creation timers

When are we purging xir?

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webm thread?

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If the Central Powers won we would have never seen fascism come to power, the USSR still would have been established, and communism arguably would have been far more powerful in the present day than it is in this timeline.

The wrong side won World War I.

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How the fuck do people afford moving out of thier parents house these days? Right now I make a lot of money ($16.50 an hour) and I still can't afford to move out unless I am OK with living like a poor ass motherfucker who only eats rice and beans and sharing my living space w/two other dudes.

Is porky responsible? Why would he want this to be the case?

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Did the gooks deserve it?

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>The freer the market, the freer the people.

refute this.

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Oh shit lads, they really got us!

how the fuck do they actually believe this shit?

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Jacobin founding editor Bhaskar Sunkara On Trump

Anyone else uncomfortable with so called Socialists appearing on mainstream TV shows like this?

I think it shows that DSA are just cronies for the Democratic Party.

https://www.facebook.com/jacobinmag/videos/1649574718402556

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Stimulator makes a comeback

https://submedia.tv/trouble/

IT'S HAPPENING…

next month.

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Do you think Hitler could have been swung towards Leftism if he had been educated before being caught up in that gas attack?

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> When you realise that you secretly want to be humiliated in the co-ed commune locker room by giggling women in burqas

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I am a bit sketchy on the idea of wealth redistribution, and personal accumulated wealth (such as in real estate).

If you own several houses, both inherited and one you paid off, are you bourgeois scum that will have your property ceased in a communist uprising?

Is that really fair, if 100 years ago your family were dirt farmers who started from nothing?

Or is housing really nothing at all to do with the means of production and hypothetically I'd be fine?

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Hey guys, can someone find me that quote of our guy Thomas saying being anti-capitalist is essential to being anti-racist? It goes something like, "the problem with racism…." I can't remember, but it was such a good anti-liberal quote.

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Where does this board stand on trans people's rights? Is being Trans evil idpol nonsense created to divide us, or should Trans people have their identities validated without question?

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Communism and Sex

Here's a documentary comparing soviet Germany to bourgeois Germany in terms of sexuality.

SPOILER: COMMUNISTS HAVE BETTER SEX

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x222wl0_do-communists-have-better-sex_shortfilms

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/pol/ and interracial porn

Whats with the /pol/ obsession about interracial porn sites like BLACKED? I wouldn't even know about this website without /pol/.

Is this some kind of guilty pleasure for white supremacists?

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Why are fascists so afraid of us but we aren't really afraid of them at all?

Pic related: They're terrified.

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Muke Thread

Muke Thread

Discuss all latest Muke happenings and Muke lore in this thread.

Did Muke debate Spectrum of Autism yet?

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Very Marxist.

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Serious question, are spooks memes? Not in the sense that calling things spooks is a meme.

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NORMIES FOUND US

THIS IS NOT A DRILL

https://twitter.com/sam_kriss/status/835667888317005825

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Let's talk about gender

What does /leftypol/ think about gender? Do you feel compelled to adhere strongly to your gender roles? What do you think about transgender people, as well as about third genders or people who don't identify with any gender.

Personally, I believe that gender should be abolished. It's is a spook, and as such transgender people are inherently spooked; however, people who identify themselves as cisgender/the gender they were assigned at birth (that includes me) are also spooked.

Liberal """feminists""" not welcome.

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LEFT ORGANIZATION THREAD

Hey comrades, after a lot of debate I've decided I'm going to open a DSA Chapter in my city.

I have 3 goals

>Activism. (Food Not Bombs, Beach cleanups, any form of volunteering)

>Informing. (We'll work on making flyers or pamphlets)

>Making a website/group so we could talk about projects

What do you guys think? Should more anons be stepping up and creating chapters? I have a lot of free time, I'm pretty sure I can put in the work.

ITT: Advice for anons trying to make something happen

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Plekhanov's criticism of Max Stirner

>For Feuerbach, what men call Divinity, is only the product of their phantasy, of a psychological aberration. It is not Divinity that has created man, but man who creates Divinity in his own image. In God man only adores his own being. God is only a fiction, but a very harmful fiction. The Christian God is supposed to be all love, all pity for poor suffering humanity. But in spite of this, or rather because of it, every Christian really worthy the name, hates, and must hate, the Atheists, who appear to him the living negation of all love and all pity. Thus the god of love becomes the god of hate, the god of persecution; the product of the phantasy of man becomes a real cause of his suffering. So we must make an end of this phantasmagoria. Since in Divinity man adores only his own being, we must once for all rend and scatter to the winds the mystic veil beneath which this being has been enveloped. The love of humanity must not extend beyond humanity. “Der Mensch ist dem Menschen das höchste Wesen” (Man is the highest being for man).

>Thus Feuerbach. Max Stirner is quite at one with him, but wishes to deduce what he believes to be the final, the most radical consequences of his theory. He reasons in this fashion. God is only the product of phantasy, is only a spook. Agreed. But what is this humanity the love of which you prescribe to me? Is not this also a spook, an abstract thing, a creature of the imagination? Where is this humanity of yours? Where does it exist but in the minds of men, in the minds of individuals? The only reality, therefore, is the individual, with his wants, his tendencies, his will. But since this is so, how can the individual, the reality, sacrifice himself for the happiness of man, an abstract being? It is all very well for you to revolt against the old God; you still retain the religious point of view, and the emancipation you are trying to help us to is absolutely theological, i.e., “God-inspired.” “The highest Being is certainly that of man, but because it is his Being and is not he himself, it is quite indifferent if we see this Being outside of him as God, or find it in him and call it the ’Being of Mankind’ or ’Man.’ I am neither God nor Man, neither the highest Being, nor my own Being, and therefore it is essentially a matter of indifference if I imagine this Being in myself or outside myself. And, indeed, we do always imagine the highest being in the two future states, in the internal and external at once; for the ’Spirit of God’ is, according to the Christian conception, also ’our spirit’ and ’dwells within us.’ It dwells in heaven and dwells in us; but we poor things are but its ’dwelling-place,’ and if Feuerbach destroys its heavenly dwelling-place and forces it to come down to us bag and baggage, we, its earthly abode, will find ourselves very over-crowded.”

>To escape the inconveniences of such over-crowding, to avoid being dominated by any spook, to at last place our foot upon actual ground, there is but one way: to take as our starting-point the only real being, our own Ego. “Away then with everything that is not wholly and solely my own affair! You think my own concerns must at least be ’good ones’? A fig for good and evil! I am I, and I am neither good nor evil. Neither has any meaning for me. The godly is the affair of God, the human that of humanity. My concern is neither the Godly nor the Human, is not the True, the Good, the Right, the Free, etc., but simply my own self, and it is not general, it is individual, as I myself am individual. For me there is nothing above myself.”

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Why should we not use the nationalism spook to lure people into far left politics when internationalism appeals to so few?

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So what are we supposed to do with these people? Is there a way to turn them to our side? Or is classcuckery permanent?

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Am I really a communist?

American conservative here.

I see a lot of rumors going around that Trump is a "communist puppet", working for Putin. So I'd like to say something first, and then get some opinions from anons who are openly admitted communists. Here it goes:

IF I'm a communist for supporting my new President, for wanting to protecting our borders, for supporting the 2nd Amendment (as well as all other constitutional rights), for supporting our troops, for wanting to get along with other nations who respect our national sovereignty, for not accepting the flaws of globalization or world government, who wants our country to have a strong industrialized economy, for wanting a strong military for defense purposes, for expecting our government to prevent domestic terrorism, who respects our American culture and way of life… IF all this makes me a communist… well then, I'm a proud American communist!

My question for the comrades at /leftypol/: am I really a communist? …Or is the Mainstream Media's narrative full of bullshit?

I'd love to know.

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Do you think China could return to more authentically socialist politics as a result of bad experiences with capitalism? Like when their credit and housing bubble bursts, or the capitalists start withdrawing from China to exploit even lower wages in Vietnam or Africa instead?

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Can /leftypol/ Character Assassinate Gloria Steinmen?

It's a matter of public record that during the "New Left" period prominent feminist Gloria Steinmen was directly on the CIA's payroll. She also had relationships with a Nixon-Ford assistant attorney general, and Henry Kissinger (and this cunt has the gall to give the leftist salute.) There is quite a lot of evidence that Steinmen's messaging was funded and controlled by the alphabet soup agencies. She is a huge part of the reason why feminism has become so insufferably misandrist and bourgeois.

>This deleted chapter also suggests her CIA involvement may not have ended in 1969 when she left the International Research Associates. It details the right wing corporate funding which helped Steinem inaugurate Ms Magazine, as well as the magazine’s pivotal role in transforming American feminism from a broad multi-class, multiracial movement to one devoted to divisive male bashing and advancing career opportunities for white upper middle class women.

>The original feminists of the sixties and seventies didn’t hate men (at least not the ones I worked with). What they hated was patriarchy and the use of male muh privilege to deny women and children full equality as human beings.

>As the feminist magazine Off Our Backs states in a 1975 article about the Redstockings scandal, their discovery of Steinem’s earlier CIA employment raised a host of concerns about her sudden installation (mainly by corporate media) as the official leader of the US women’s movement without any previous involvement in feminist groups or campaigns.

>In the late sixties and early seventies, African American organizers became concerned about a pattern in which agents posing as black feminists infiltrated their community groups in an effort to split off women members into separate organizations. They traced this phenomenon back to 1978 when Steinem put a book called Black Macho and the Myth of the Superwoman on the cover of Ms Magazine.

Steinmen also shilled hard for Hillary going so far as to make the downright sexist claim that millennial Women were supporting Bernie to get attention from boys. Its completely repulsive that Steinmen will likely die as a well regarded figure. She is in desperate need of Character assassination. There is already quite a lot of evidence of her duplicity, I assume the fine autists on this board could dredge up even more information on her and build an irrefutable case that she is a tool of the working class who has fully embraced their sinister aims. Acquiring and disseminating this information would be a genuinely righteous action and demonstrate to normies how liberal idpol plays in the ruling class' hands.

Check out this article on her, its written by another feminist group.

https://stuartjeannebramhall.com/2015/10/13/did-the-cia-use-gloria-steinem-to-subvert-the-feminist-movement/

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The more reasonable assessment of Labour failures that no one is willing to listen to.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/25/wings-labour-blame-electoral-collapse?CMP=fb_gu

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Well /leftypol/?

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There's literally nothing wrong with being an opportunist

You know this to be true, bordigafags. Deep in the confines of your armchair soul, you know this to be true. Fuck yourselves.

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America in 4 years

> tfw muslim

> It's 2020, Trump is running for president again

> Go on bus to NYC to vote, accidentally sit in the front and have to pay a $50 fine

> Everyone in the back of the bus is spreading their legs and taking up 3 seats to protest the evil PC culture

> Nearing NYC, see several billboards with nothing but Trump's face and the word "OBEY" on them

> Pass a large bank, half of the people there are taking out second mortgages to pay for their prescriptions

> Get off at the stop and see the KKK holding a huge rally and lynching people in Times Square

> I try to talk to them, but a police officer puts his hand over my mouth and beats me over the head with his nightstick

> "If you protest them, you're the real fascist."

> Get up, brush myself off, and head to cast my vote

> Walk into the polling place, see the manager wearing a Happy Merchant T-shirt

> NY lost 7 electoral votes since Congress put the three-fifths compromise back in effect

> Enter the voting booth, cast vote for Democrats

> Automated voice says "THIS IS WHY TRUMP WON"

> Exit the polling place, see women being dragged out the door after the Supreme Court's ruling that women are incapable of thinking

> Get punched in the face by two Klansmen as revenge for Richard Spencer

> Severe brain damage

> Should have mailed my vote in

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Is goodfellas a marxist movie?

Someone told me it's a good movie to watch in order to understand the philosophy of Marx.

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How many here unironically want Le Pen to win so that we finally can get rid off the shitty union?

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/ourguy/ got doxed

/baphomet/ dozed him.

Figured you guys should know.

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SocDem

>tfw he hasnt swallowed the SocDem pill yet

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Socdems

>Unlike the anarchists, the Marxists recognise struggle for reforms, i.e., for measures that improve the conditions of the working people without destroying the power of the ruling class. At the same time, however, the Marxists wage a most resolute struggle against the reformists, who, directly or indirectly, restrict the aims and activities of the working class to the winning of reforms. Reformism is bourgeois deception of the workers, who, despite individual improvements, will always remain wage-slaves, as long as there is the domination of capital.

>The liberal bourgeoisie grant reforms with one hand, and with the other always take them back, reduce them to nought, use them to enslave the workers, to divide them into separate groups and perpetuate wage-slavery. For that reason reformism, even when quite sincere, in practice becomes a weapon by means of which the bourgeoisie corrupt and weaken the workers. The experience of all countries shows that the workers who put their trust in the reformists are always fooled.

>And conversely, workers who have assimilated Marx’s theory, i.e., realised the inevitability of wage-slavery so long as capitalist rule remains, will not be fooled by any bourgeois reforms. Understanding that where capitalism continued to exist reforms cannot be either enduring or far-reaching, the workers fight for better conditions and use them to intensify the fight against wage-slavery. The reformists try to divide and deceive the workers, to divert them from the class struggle by petty concessions. But the workers, having seen through the falsity of reformism, utilise reforms to develop and broaden their class struggle.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/sep/12b.htm

I honestly just don't get socdems, don't get me wrong, I'm a worker too, 15 dollars an hour sounds nice. A shorter work-week and decent healthcare sounds nice (I have none rn) having some protections from the whims of your retarded boss also sounds nice. But do you really love capitalist society so much that if we can strike a deal to make it moderately less painful that we should continue to endure it?

You get the reforms and then what? You go home?

Lenin says somewhere else that reforms are the consequence of the revolutionary struggle. Have Socdems ever thought about what that means if that's true? It means without a revolutionary struggle no meaningful reforms are possible. It also means that even if your one of those "I only want my 15 an hour/my neetbux" types who only care about the reforms that you don't get what you want unless someone further to your left is applying pressure.

All these socdems and even some radical leftists say that Bernie will lead to a revival of the radical left. I think its the opposite, the increased activity of the radical left and the rising class consciousness of workers was what made Bernie possible.

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Chinese wages now higher than in Brazil, Argentina and Mexico

"Hourly rates close in on pay levels in western laggards Greece and Portugal

Across China’s labour force as a whole, hourly incomes now exceed those in every major Latin American state bar Chile, and are at around 70 per cent of the level in weaker eurozone countries, according to data from Euromonitor International, a research group.

The figures indicate the progress China has made in improving the living standards of its 1.4bn people, with some analysts arguing that increases in productivity could push manufacturing wages even further beyond what are traditionally seen as middle-income countries. But the fast-rising wage levels mean China could also start to lose jobs to other developing countries willing to undercut it."

https://t.co/A6deY3bAnO

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https://youtu.be/QudsWFi0NuQ?t=8m39s

This avant-garde cretin's channel is pretty much a microcosm of /pol/. How do you even respond to this sort of sheer insanity?

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Positive views of Stalin among Russians reach 16-year high, poll shows

Positive views of Stalin amongst Russians at a 16 year high

Percentage of Russians who said they had "respect," "sympathy," or "admiration" for Soviet leader Joseph Stalin.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/02/15/positive-views-of-stalin-among-russians-reach-16-year-high-poll-shows/?utm_term=.d2c5ce49de26

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Sea ice around Antarctica hits record low, preliminary U.S. data show

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-antarctica-ice-idUSKBN15T2SH?utm_content=buffer46480&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

>This year, sea ice extent contracted to 2.287 million square kilometers (883,015 square miles) on Feb. 13, according to daily data from the U.S. National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC).

>That extent is a fraction smaller than a previous low of 2.290 million sq kms (884,173 square miles) recorded on Feb. 27, 1997, in satellite records dating back to 1979.

>Mark Serreze, director of the NSIDC, said he would wait for a few days' more measurements to confirm the record low.

>At the other end of the planet, ice covering the Arctic Ocean has set repeated lows in recent years.

>In the northern winter, sea ice is growing in winter and is at the smallest extent for mid-February, at 13.927 million sq kms (5.377 million square miles).

>Combined, the extent of sea ice at both ends of the planet is about 2 million sq kms (772,200 square miles) less than the 1981-2010 averages for mid-February, roughly the size of Mexico or Saudi Arabia.

rip

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Common Reasons for Commie Hate

> "Leftism = Liberalism"

> "Leftism = Totalitarianism"

> "Communism means everyone would be forced to live and act the same"

> "Fucking lefties wanna take away my guns"

> "Why should my tax dollars go to lazy schmucks who don't even work?"

> "Lefties come from the city, they don't know what's good for us country folk!"

> "Communism destroys American Values™"

I feel like most of our opponents (save Nazis and Lolberts) simply have a fundamental misconception of what leftists actually want. Anyone else feel the same?

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Is this the end of /leftypol/?

Our discussions are getting popular therefore shittier. How can we reverse this trend and how does someone combat the wave of id?

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BASED BERNIE

How can one man be so based?

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The one true ideology

After years of research I have developed the ultimate ideology: May I present…

FULLY AUTOMATED LUXURY GAY SPACE CHRISTIAN ISLAM-OBAM-ANARCHO-COMMUNISM!

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What's with the aut-right and nootropics? What the fuck is even in this shit? Am I wrong in thinking its a chemical psyop?

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Anyone have any videos of police trying to get protesters to riot?

I'm curious how common this is.

https://archive.fo/CUXwe

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Name 1 (one) thing that he did wrong.

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Would you have pressed the button, /leftypol/?

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/pol/ here. I naturally agree more with leftist ideas but don't like being denied my history and ethnic identity (I'm white).

I also think this is probably true for a very large portion of /pol/. We're only "right wing" because they're the only party seemingly willing to go to bat for European identity.

Why don't you shill pro-Identitarian leftism on /pol/?

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Localism

What are your thoughts on the idea of supporting producers from your own area / country / region? Obviously it's not strictly anticapitalist, but is there any merit to the idea?

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Stop reading Althusser

He's a hack

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Do we belive in free speech? And if not why?

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when is the next major socialist revolution happening

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Does this about sum it up?

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Education

Our current eduction model is pretty shit, we cram knowledge down children's throats and manage to extinguish curiosity in a lot of them. By putting a lot of children together with little oversight, we let them create a tiny society for themselves, filled with bullying and cruelty. What we have no is a relict of the industrial revolution, shaping humans into replaceable parts.

I've heard Wes Cecil argue for going back to the education system of the ancients. According to him, they only taught literary skills for a few years so students could read and write well and then let them loose to study anything and everything that was required of them. This system created what we today call universal geniuses, which simply means jacks of all trades that had the capacity to be utilized in any situation if given some preparation time and that could contribute to any field.

Cecil believes that we could return to this state and that only our current education system is hindering us but believe that the sciences have advanced too far for someone to be able to be fluent in all of them.

What kind of education system would you want in a socialist society? Some options are:

-Some reformed version of our current prussian model

-Ancient system with very few subjects and focus on literary skill with years of private study afterwards

-The scifi solution, private AI tutors for everyone

Pic unrelated

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Is this book any good?

Does it approach things from a principled perspective, or is it pure ideology?

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Facism is back and left cant stand it italy went full right wing death squads. Copy pasted from /pol/and

>be italian

>work at supermarket "lidl"

>found roma stealing from access limited area

>close the gates of the area

>roma whores start screaming

>record video making fun of them

>police arrives

>arrest the roma whores

>the two guards got fired

>the two guards got charged with kidnapping

>national outrage against the 🍀🍀🍀law🍀🍀🍀

>national support for the guards

>thousands of facebook pages moking the roma whores

>thousands of facebook memes damaging "lidl" reputation for firing the guards

>the company is losing their face, money and clients

>far right parties are moking the roma whores and laughing at them

Enjoy the video.

https://youtu.be/8POpMb518Y0

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Whats the best marxist ideology?

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How do Marxists answer this man?

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Stirnerite egoist unionism and Bordigist organic centralism seem to have gigantic overlap, wherein for Stirner only if the self-interest of the whole union of egos is sated things are to be done, and for Bordiga only if the class-material interest of the communist horizon is completely unanymous centrally things are to be done. Both also having a disdain for sacrificing this consensus-led common good through compromises like a vote, which have the power to break the unity of individual members and their collective interest in always being in proper agreement; the agreement that their organization must be a ego-unitary organ. Democracy is a spook only opportunists fall for.

This is not a shitpost: fusing two of the board's most iconic subjects of shitposting was only the way of spiritual-material dialectic to inform us of this ultimate synthesis. You may not like it, but Stirnero-Bordigist egoist centralism is the future. Deal with it, you go-getting specters.

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Okay. Now to the less up-lifting. I need to tell you about a drug. The drug-maker is called Kaleo - K-A-L-E-O - and they make a drug called Evzio® - E-V-Z-I-O. Evzio® is a way of injecting yourself with an item called naloxone. It is the antidote to a heroin or opioid overdose. As you know from my talks to you in the past, we are now living through a major epidemic of overdose - deaths by overdose - we had 33,000 last year.

Let me do that again. Thirty-three thousand Americans died - at least what we can keep track of - of drug overdoses, mostly these opioid drugs. And this naloxone comes in a little injector which has in it not only the needle that puts it in you, but has built into it - modern technology - a tiny, little recording. And you press the button and the recording tells you how to go about injecting yourself.

So anybody who has a sudden overdose attack can really - even if he or she doesn't know anything about this - press the button and has something that will explain how to do this. Up until two years ago, this injecting device cost $690. Which is a lot. But last year, Kaleo - the producer of this thing - raised the price from $690 to $4500 per shot. So let's now do the economics. Not that it's difficult. This is called The Market.

The Market is a place where demands and supplies. This company controls the supply - they're the only one who makes this thing. They control the supply. The demand is created by the culture - the society - which is driving record numbers of people to blot out a reality they cannot bear by going off into what you get to if you use opioids. And they do it indiscriminately and they kill themselves. So the demand for this is enormous as this epidemic plays itself out. And, under the rules of The Market, if the demand is going crazy and you control the supply, you are supposed to charge what the market will bear. And that's $4500, leading all kinds of people to be unable to afford - or even to think about.

I was struck by the example of the state of Vermont, which is interesting not only because it has Bernie Sanders, but because it has gone further in the direction of a health insurance program for its people than any other state in the United States, but it also has one of the worst opioid epidemics in the United States at the same time. They can't use it; it's too expensive. They use an older form of the drug, which isn't as easy to administer, isn't as easy to pass around. So there are people who are doing without, because they cannot afford it. A market is a system in which anything that is scarce - whether it's scarce by nature, or scarce by the design of the producer - will then be sold to the highest bidder.

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Is there any way to promote class consciousness on other boards without getting immediately outed as a gommie shill?

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Do you guys also completely choke when explaining or discussing Marxism irl?

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Old/comfy Leftie Music

Got a lefty song you think your comrades should know about? Katyusha and Kalinka are nice, but if you can, post some new ones that haven't been posted a lot here before.

Also, I don't want none o' that anarcho-punk fun pls, but if anarfriends have some folksy /comfy/ songs you're welcome here.

Some Union songs from Burgerland would be nice if anyone knows of some good ones.

Startin off with this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgEgKaHCUXE

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Israel is kill.

Palestine was freed with Trump memes.

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This is a good anti-capitalist book. It shows the dangers of futuristic unchecked capitalism.

It's a cyberpunk story that takes place in a futuristic society where corporations run the world almost completely (Theres still a president) and inside most people's brain(except for poor people) there is a device that allows them to connect to an internet like network and watch TV, IM their friends, and do other internet shit inside their heads. Corporations advertise inside their heads even manipulating their memories to advertise and memories can be downloaded and sent to others.

The only bad part is that the main characters are shitty teenager normies with narcissistic personality disorder.

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Since I have been frequenting Anglo-Saxon left-wing circles, I've noticed that a lot of pro-capitalist kids always use this silly "argument" of human nature to support their bullshit.

Do they know that human nature does not exist as shown by Merleau-Ponty, or that at least the innate characteristics of man can be overcome, controlled, regulated, that man, unlike animals, can be high, educated etc?

Did they at least hear about Kropotkin? Where does this spooks come from? Seriously, even as a leftist who is more on the mutualist than full communist side, I find it profoundly stupid.

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Iraq war remembrance

Hi, I'm new here. What are your thoughts on the Iraq war. I hate that lately it's not being as emphasized, like people are starting to forget. Apparently they are trying to start up another trainwreck with Iran

I get so bummed out when I think about it. A million and a half people killed thousands raped, tortured, rendered homeless.

And yet those responsible get no chastisement except being made fun of on the daily show.

I remember I participated in the antiwar protests and no one had any hope that people would rise up to stop this atrocity in the making

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Get rid of the nazbol flag

People who aren't in on the joke are using it unironically now

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Why do you still have faith in the working class when morons like this keep regurgitating capitalist talking points like this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/alberta/comments/5vt04y/a_jobless_recovery_why_the_layoffs_are_not_over/de4ycp9/

Yes, he's r/alberta's resident lolcow libertarian moron.

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Really makes you think

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Alternative currency

Are labour vouchers and mutual credit basically the same thing? I don't understand the difference. And isn't it basically just bartering and gifting but with a digital or paper trail?

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Lying news

So who wants to have some fun and try to kindly inform Trump via Twitter or whatever that "lügenpresse" is a popular word for "fake news" used by Germans and he should use it German interviews and meetings to wow them at his local German lingo?

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I used to chalk up radical violent Islam to mostly being a product of imperialism, but after listening to a little bit of Sam Harris, I'm starting to lean towards Quran doctrine being the predominate factor.

What are your thoughts, especially those who have heard Harris talk about this?

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https://www.dubtrack.fm/join/leftypol-comrades

https://www.dubtrack.fm/join/leftypol-comrades

https://www.dubtrack.fm/join/leftypol-comrades

rebel's dead. he doesn't come here anymore.

he basically keeps himself to shitposting on twitter

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>being this fucking retarded

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The boss who doesn't believe in work-life balance

http://www.bbc.com/capital/slideshow-gallery/20170223-the-boss-who-doesnt-believe-in-work-life-balance

Work harder! Stop being so lazy!

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Why does he block any leftist that does not agree 100% with his views?

He is like the r/Socialism of youtube

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How do we deal with the scourge of fake-grassroots activism and fake corporate rebellion?

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Reddit

Why does /leftypol/ seem to hate people from Reddit. People from example /r/Anarchism /r/Communism and /r/Socialism

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It says here you believe in something called the " 'Union' of 'Soviet' 'Socialist' 'Republics'", a country that wasn't a union, nor controlled by the soviets, nor socialist, nor a republic. What do you mean exactly by this?

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how do we make china socialist again ?

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Bir Tawil and Other Land Disputes

Long story short I've been looking at unclaimed and disputed land across the globe so I can start a micronation there. I found specifically three places Bir Tawil, some places on the border of Croatia and Serbia around the Danbue river, and Marie Birdland, Antarctica. Before you ask I do have plans on how to specifically get a hold of one of these lands though it would take a while to put into action. The reason I decided post about this is just in case there are any other land disputes, legal loopholes, and other things that could help me start and maintain an independent nation that I missed while researching and it's going to be socialist.

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Why do libertarians always defend fascists?

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Suicidal Plea from a Leftist Nihilist

This isnt leftist per se, but I feel like the reason why I feel this way is largely tied in with my nihilistic leftist views. Anywho, the topic of the thread is: what should I do with my life? I hate almost everyone I meet, even on here there are more bigots than reasonable unspooked people.

I have a little less than 2k saved up in usd and am probably gonna lose most of it soon due to insurance and taxes and vehicle maintenance etc. I want to do something radical. Something leftist. I want to go somewhere or do something that gets me away from capitalism.

I have no idea what I can accomplish that is of that nature with only 2000 bucks.

Please help leftypol, I dont want to have to kill myself, I have such hopes for witnessing cool shit in the future. You might be my only hope.

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Can we explain why /pol/ attracts so many Americans?

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I'm done, I'm fucking done ever, EVER trying to engage "center-left" liberals in good faith.

They are legitimately more disingenuous than fucking /pol/.

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Was venerable Comrade Riegin actually the real upholder of the unitary Holy Marxist-Leninist line by enacting revenge on the revisionist USSR under Brezhnev?

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>under capitalist property laws, even numbers are subject to being private property

>if you ran a number generator for long enough, you'd be breaking copyright laws

How does anyone believe this is sane, again?

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remember me, /leftypol/

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>tfw to intelligent to be communist

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A Cult Member Turned Expert Explains How Anyone Can Be Brainwashed

Dr. Alexandra Stein was brainwashed by a Marxist-Leninist sect as a young woman. Now she studies them for a living.

>For a decade, Dr Stein was a member of a leftist political cult known as The O. Once she escaped, she wrote a book and a PhD on the topic, and became one of the leading academic experts in the field.

>"People don't think of political groups as cults," Stein tells me, over a mug of hot tea. "But they can be. There are zillions of political cults around the world." She would know. Stein grew up in London to South African parents, and they were heavily political as a family. "Politics was in my bones from a very early age."

>When she was 18, Stein moved to America in search of adventures and grassroots activism. She found it—for a time. Then, as she tells it, the Reagan era came and a lot of her comrades disbanded and got on with their lives, leaving her alone with her political passions. She'd just broken up with a boyfriend when she first met members of The O., the fringe Marxist-Leninist cult based in Minneapolis.

>They lured her in with the promise of working towards a left-wing revolution and ultimately took over her life. The group isolated her from friends and family, placing her in an approved marriage, telling her to have children as part of her mission, and forcing her to work in a bakery eight hours every day after her full-time position as a computer integrator—both jobs that she had been instructed to do by the group. She lived in "a weird, dark, secret little cult house" and worked feverishly for the cause.

>Thanks to her two jobs, Stein was exhausted all the time and lost every major relationship outside the cult. While she couldn't quite work out what baked goods or computing had to do with the coming revolution, she didn't have the mental faculties or the strength to question her way of life.

>It wasn't until 1991, after one failed escape attempt, that she finally extricated herself from the cult and started to wonder what the hell had happened to her. It led to a lifelong research mission to understand what had happened—and what continues to happen to people around the world today, "from political cults to yoga cults to ISIS, and everything in between," Stein says.

>It's like being absorbed into a group of false, sometimes cruel friends. Cults have the illusion of solidarity, but Stein describes them as a perverse group of deeply lonely individuals who have lost the will and the capacity to make decisions on their own. "You can't confide in anyone in a cult," she says. "If you say, 'There seems to be a problem here,' you will be likely to be punished, so there's nowhere to go. You're scared but you've got nobody else left in your life, so you cling to the very people who are causing you that fear."

https://www.vice.com/en_au/article/a-cult-member-turned-expert-explains-how-anyone-can-be-brainwashed

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8ch LEAKS IP ADDRESSES DUE TO CLOUDFLARE LEAK

A vulnerability in cloud flare caused random bits of session data to pop up in peoples webpages unnoticed including IPs.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/24/cloudbleed_buffer_overflow_bug_spaffs_personal_data/

https://github.com/pirate/sites-using-cloudflare

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tankies,

would the USSR under trotsky not be superior?

considering stalin's continuous and excessive failures, i don't understand why you're not all trots already

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Can somebody fill me in on late Yugoslavia's contractual economy? I read something about it, and I remember its motto was something like "not a plan, not a market" (I'm not sure). And I'm not talking about market socialism, I'm talking about the later phase.

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THE. RIDE. NEVER. ENDS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOpUdR944c0

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When will Jimmy Dore finally purge the ruling class?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Nx3Xd4o_Y

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Hungarian Revolution of '56

What are your thoughts on the Hungarian Revolution of 1956? Was it a legitimate attempt at overthrowing tankiedom and establishing real socialism or just a thinly veiled counter-revolution?

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The end of net neutrality is at the gates, lads.

Goddamn Porky just has to get his fingers in everything.

https://yro.slashdot.org/story/17/02/23/2114218/fcc-votes-to-lift-net-neutrality-transparency-rules-for-smaller-internet-providers

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stupid dumb neoliberal scum

We have gotten to the point where liberals are now worshipping the "deep state", ie the network of bureaucrats, spies and corporate lobbyists that keep porky's money machines operating, because they think they will somehow stop Trump and "save America from Russian influence" in the process.

At the very best this is McCarthyism 2: socjus edition and at the worst it's liberals showing their true faces as porky worshipers. I seriously cannot beilive the shit I'm seeing on TV at this point. They no longer even attempt to hide their reverence for elites and disdain for "racist" proles who voted for Trump.

These fucks think they stand a chance in 2020. What the fuck are they going to do when Trump is forced by Congress to enact more sanctions or put troops in western Ukraine? They'll be completely exposed for the idiots they are (moreso than usual) and not have any legitimacy left.

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Why is there a backdoor in cloudflare?

I thought it was common consensus that the NSA has direct access to cloudflare servers, and cloudflare intercepts and decrypts all ssl traffic that goes through them by design, so why do they need that backdoor?

https://bugs.chromium.org/p/project-zero/issues/detail?id=1139

Or is that an actual bug or did some other intelligence agency get a shill to create the backdoor?

Anyway, reminder that we have the technology to create incredibly secure systems. Trusting centralized services with your encryption keys is a choice you make, and it is a very naive one.

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-When the AP announced the California primary was over the night before it happened, I put up with it.

-When Bernie endorsed Hillary, even after the dirty tricks in California, I put up with it.

-When Bernie went to Clinton rally after Clinton rally getting far more of a crowd reaction than Hillary, I put up with it.

-When Centrist trolls insulted us for our "purity tests" for not wanting corruption to run rampant, I put up with it.

-When pro-Hillary filth accused Bernie supporters of being racist and sexist, I put up with it.

-When Trump inevitably won the election and Bernie stood with Hillary, I put up with it.

-When Jeff Weaver and OurRevolution started begging me for money every other day, I put up with it.

-When Keith Ellison pretended the primary was fair, I put up with it.

The election of Perez is the final straw. Bernie's revolution has become a watered down joke. A figurehead who puts out strongly written letters and tweets that supposedly "own" the Republicans. The Democratic Party has turned him into a shell of his former self despite the fact that all they do is FUCKING FAIL.

I'm going to be dead one day. Do I want to look back and go "Yeah, I compromised with a bunch of losers repeatedly while Nazis took our society over?" Screw that.

This isn't a cult of personality. This is a political revolution that has gone off the rails and has become about dangling Trump over progressives to let the corporate Dem SCUM do whatever they want, all while still LOSING.

No More. DemExit is on. The Democratic Party must end in order for the people to be free from Right-Wing fascism.

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Aynclap Stefan Molyneux shaming NEET

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSXLjvW86s8

This classcuckery just makes me want to hurl

No mention from Stefan whatsoever about capitalist alienation, shit wages, the menial nature of today's jobs. He shames the NEET for not working but gives a pass to the bourgeoisie who do not have to work because they make their money off the surplus labour of others.

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Someone help me with Stirner.

I don't get it.

Can someone provide me with a list of things that are spooks, and a list of things that are not?

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Thought Experiment

How could tax funded food handouts/cafeterias work in the United States? Why is this such a scary idea? What would it take, like a tiny tax? For good food?

I'm no economist, I'm just curious what it would cost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJBjjP8WSbc

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German elections debate.

Só the German elections are this year, and Merkel's party hás been loosing extreme amount of popularity, while the demsocs are growing to be the most popular there is still a debate if Die linke will be able to hold its position against rising parties like the AFD. What does leftypol thinks will hapen in germany?

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Why don't you keep an easy method of suicide at hand?

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Uncontacted Tribes and Positive Rights

One of the biggest things that defines the left wing is the concept of positive rights like the right to healthcare, education, knowledge, travel, etc. I don't know how that would work out with uncontacted tribes though. In workers state, or anarchist society (take your pick) how would you go about giving uncontacted indigenous people these things they supposedly have a right to? It wouldn't be equality if some of humanity got to travel the stars while others don't even have access to basic healthcare or knowledge. On the other hand, contact with these tribes could kill them or destroy their culture and way of life as has happened so many times before. Is it best just to leave them alone even if you are not being ideologically consistent?

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We edit this map

Do you agree with this?

I do for the most part, I'd put http://businessinsider.com toward the center right, it's great about exposing the business relationships that give away stuff like Russia actually being balls deep in the Trump administration, regardless of any spurious "hacking" notions

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Current board rules

Yesterday i came to my attention that we now ban people for "promoting to fuck children" or as it was also put "saying there is nothing wrong with 60 year olds fucking a 13 yo".

My question is what exactly this reasoning is based, because it could (and maybe should?) mean that it has to be applied on further issues that could be related.

Explained concretely on the isssue of hebephilia:

From yesterdays explanation it was said it isn't about discussions on "age of consent" in general. Since there are nations that have an age of consent of 13 or 14 years (further restrictions might apply), i don't think that it's really about "child fucking" itself.

So where exactly does this ban come from then?

It was hinted that there are either liberals or /pol/ using this issue to attack /leftypol/.

Can we deduce from this that we can do away with other threads that are way more frequently and longer spammed such as "Race and intelligence" or "Transsexuality and why they should be locked up"?

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>tfw you'll never kill all normies on Earth and only left the top 5% of smart and decent people alive

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Who do you like the most on this list?

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http://www.furhatworld.com/russian-hats-c-42_45.html?gclid=CL6_z_OOqNICFQYIvAodlBkEZw

which Ushanka is the most communist one? I need it to improve my shitposting.

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FWC decides to cut penalty rates in Aus

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-23/weekend-penalty-rates-fair-work-commission-decision/8295758

who /paidfuckall/ here? what are you doing about this bullshit, strayans?

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What is Trad?

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I really wanna kill some Nazis right now

Let's make this thread put Inglorious Basterds to shame, /leftypol/. Post as many Nazi-murders here as possible. The more violent, the better.

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French Far-Right Party Misappropriated Millions in European Funds

> French police raided the headquarters of Marine Le Pen's Front National party on Monday as part of an investigation into alleged misuse of European Union funds to pay parliamentary assistants.

> The European parliament has accused Ms Le Pen, a French presidential candidate and MEP, of paying FN party staff with EU funds which it says should only be spent on European parliamentary assistants.

> It has demanded Ms Le Pen pay back nearly €340,000 (£290,000) and, faced with her refusal to repay the money, has said it will start docking her salary in order to recover the funds.

Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/20/police-raid-marine-le-pens-front-national-party-hq-eu-fake-jobs/

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How do Stalinists justify Stalin purging the entire military and killing off visionary military theorists like Tukhachevksy whilst having an obviously hostile neighbor?

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World is a Fuck

The working class you idealize so much would gladly have half the world dying in death camps and sweatshops if it guaranteed them the fantastic opportunity of being an upstanding citizen by toiling their life away at a boring 9-to-5 job, reading clickbait listicles in-between. You can buy most of them at an insanely low price and they won't even be mad at you but rather at people who are uncomfortable with being sold.

The people priding themselves in their servile work ethic and complaining about lazies as they reach for the lottery ticket crammed in the bottom of their pocket pocket despise you. They hate you and your lots and your endless talk about global equality, world peace, reduced working hours and abolished hierarchies. Most people enjoy being dominated as long as it allows them to fit into social roles.

Try to refute this. You can't.

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Why aren't you in Syria right now? What's your excuse?

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Why are German SocDem's always on the wrong side of history?

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Media Critics

Watching stuff like Red Letter Media is painful to me. They understand that greed and the profit motive creates a culture of endless remakes with all creativity being snuffed out and the masses being misled by giant advertising campaigns, yet they don't get that the problem creating this situation is the capitalist system. They seem so close but will probably never quite get what they subconsciously already believe.

Are there Marxist media critics that do TV shows or run youtube channels? I'd be interested in some deeper analysis of how media is decreasing in creativity and the like. Of course you can always tell people to read Adorno but his ramblings, while they might be insightful, are barely understandable. I'm looking for something less Hegel tier.

Pic unrelated

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ITT: Post shit we need that is actually feasible

>a proper reading list covering all topics and make it available through torrent

>a Socialist FAQ covering the basics and all common arguments against it

>a database of left-wing publications, podcasts, blogs, youtubers etc

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Are imageboards communist societies?

- There is no capital ((yous) do not accumulate to identities and have no value of exchange)

- There is no private property (anyone may post in anyones thread)

- There is no bargaining or coercion

- The workers own the means of production (posting)

- The culture of imageboards opens up new possibilities of experience and is not appreciated by those outside it like Marx said communism would be

- You can create what you like so you are not alienated from you labor

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>Hillary supporters

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Hey comrades, I'm thinking about starting a Democratic Socialist facebook group for my city. There's a giant drug problem in our city, along with housing issues, homelessness, and terrible traffic. There's a lot of issues to be discussed and I think it'll be crazy useful in spreading socialist ideas to be fixing them.

I'm going to try to organize activities such as Food Not Bombs, and maybe try to hand out flyers that casually explains socialism and the positive side of it.

What are your thoughts / ideas comrades? Should more leftypol users be doing this?

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Is Bannon /our comrade/?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j42BcjZ-B1M

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Keith Ellison Loses DNC Race After Heated Campaign Targeting Him for His Views on Palestine

http://archive.is/dsZOX

Well, I guess the Democratic Party is too firmly committed to suicide for something as sensible as giving the chairmanship to somebody endorsed by the supporters of the presidential candidate that would've won the election.

What's plan B?

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Is irony still subversive?

As good ol' zizek and many others have already said Irony has become the norm and is no longer subversive. Why are we still making ironic memes to push ideology in an age where we have to afirm if we are or not being ironic all the time (mfw unironically like [blank]).

I personally think the evollution of internet memes follows the general path of the z generation, with some margin of error of course.

From Mid 90's to early 2000 genZ was still young and memes were usually explicit like children and early teen humor. Come the late 2000 to mid 2010 and gen Z are bunch of teens who's early game was 9/11, 2008, iraq war and all the late capitalism bullshit all the while being exposed to internet culture. Irony reigns supreme.

Nowdays most of us are in our early to mid 20's, with some still leaving adolescence. Soon will be the time to turn this page and i have no idea what's coming next. Will memes find a new sincerity? Will the mantle of memes be passed down to the next generation? Will memes die? Or maybe something else.

If Irony is becoming stale, I think we leftists should embrace sincerity and reacquire the subversive nature we used to have in the last century.

There is no meme war.

No one memed trump into presidency.

Let's mature befor pol does.

MFW posting a trollface unironically for the first time in years, but not trolling or as a nostalgiafag.

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So is this shit basically a Frankfurt school critique of how art and capitalism generate watered down trash that degrades culture?

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What does /leftypol/ think of the more famous spookbuster, Nietzsche?

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#resistcapitalism

February 25 is going to be the start of another leftist twitter hashtag campaign. Should /leftypol/ participate? Any good infographs/memes we could share?

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Tom Perez here

*cough* *cough* We are going to change this party! I mean this country… *cough* By fucking over and destroying Unions *cough* Clinton was right *cough*

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Why does everyone hate the United States when Britain is the most imperialistic and exploitative society ever?

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The song "Kill the Beast" is an allegory for the Red Scare

>Belle is the leftist, class-conscious proletariat

>Gaston is the bourgeoisie

>the townspeople are classcucks

>the Beast is communism

>the mirror is the writings of Marx

Thoughts, comrades?

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LEFTYPOL CHOIR ANNOUNCEMENT

Hey lads, Bat'ko here.

Just letting you know, I'll be going to UNI in a day, so content for the /leftypol/ choir will be less fequent than it has been in recent weeks.

Not to worry, there'll still be songs (which will be of higher quality than my recent mediocre Katushya song) coming out.

In some cases I'll call upon the help of Anons to help me sing these songs that are to come

SONG LISTS

I'll make a red out of you (Mulan parody)

Ours (Lazy town parody, of Mine)

Swimming Spooks (parody of swimming pools)

Heyeayeayeayea (leftist version)

Possible De Leon song to be sung to the theme of either the sound of silence or where is my mind

possible new leftypol anthem to be sung in the theme of Stand proud from Jojo

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Really makes you think

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>there are people here giving up

Why?

I'm not giving up on leftism till a fascist fires a bullet into my brain.

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Daily News Thread 2/25

GOP Senators Embrace Awkward Russia Probe That Could Hurt Trump

The investigation, which will involve scouring highly classified material, is still in its early stages, but Republicans are so far joining Democrats on the panel in pledging to conduct it in a serious manner.

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-24/gop-senators-embrace-awkward-russia-probe-that-could-hurt-trump

White House confirms conversation with FBI about Trump and Russia

Reince Priebus, FBI director James Comey and deputy director Andrew McCabe had a conversation which appears to violate justice department rules.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/24/donald-trump-russia-reince-priebus-fbi-talks-james-comey

Democrats: WH contact with FBI an 'outrageous breach of the FBI's independence'

Congressional Democrats sharply criticized President Donald Trump Friday over a CNN report that the FBI rejected a recent White House request to publicly knock down media reports about communications between Trump's associates and Russians known to US intelligence during the 2016 presidential campaign.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/24/politics/congress-reactions-fbi-white-house/index.html?

DHS report disputes threat from banned nations

Analysts at the Homeland Security Department's intelligence arm found insufficient evidence that citizens of seven Muslim-majority countries included in President Donald Trump's travel ban pose a terror threat to the United States.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRAVEL_BAN_INTELLIGENCE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-02-24-18-36-57

Republican lawmakers introduce bills to curb protesting in at least 18 states

From Virginia to Washington state, legislators have introduced bills that would increase punishments for blocking highways, ban the use of masks during protests, indemnify drivers who strike protesters with their cars and, in at least once case, seize the assets of people involved in protests that later turn violent.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/02/24/republican-lawmakers-introduce-bills-to-curb-protesting-in-at-least-17-states/?utm_term=.c41ab8e89a43

GOP Obamacare Plan Would Cover Fewer People; Blowback Grows

It would do away with the Affordable Care Act’s requirement that all Americans have health coverage or pay a fine, and replace it with rules that let people choose not to buy insurance, instead paying higher premiums or penalties if they need it later.

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-24/gop-obamacare-plan-would-cover-fewer-people-blowback-grows

Kansas Republicans Sour on Their Tax-Cut Experiment

The state legislature nearly reversed Governor Sam Brownback’s signature policy after a voter rebellion. His economic legacy, one GOP lawmaker says, “is going down in flames.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/02/the-republican-blowback-against-sam-brownback-kansas/517641/

Detroit GM workers speak on layoffs as deadline draws near

Workers at the General Motors Detroit-Hamtramck Assembly Plant are watching the clock tick down toward a scheduled March 3 date for the elimination of the second shift at the facility, impacting some 1,300 jobs.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/02/25/auto-f25.html

Work Stoppage at Ports Would Have Ripple Effect

A proposed one-day work stoppage led by the International Longshoremen’s Association at ports on the U.S. East and Gulf coasts would hit those regions hard economically, observers say.

https://www.bna.com/work-stoppage-ports-n57982084344/

Dakota protesters regroup, plot resistance to other pipelines

Opponents of the Dakota Access Pipeline who were pushed out of their protest camp this week have vowed to keep up efforts to stop the multibillion-dollar project and take the fight to other pipelines as well.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-north-dakota-pipeline-idUSKBN1640BH

Documents Indicate Germany Spied on Foreign Journalists

Germany's foreign intelligence agency, the BND, apparently spied on large numbers of foreign journalists overseas over the course of several years, including employees of the BBC, Reuters and the New York Times.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/german-intelligence-spied-on-foreign-journalists-for-years-a-1136188.html

Russian Defense Minister Says His Military Has Tested 162 Weapons In Syria

The Kremlin has never made a secret that its intervention on behalf of the Syrian government has been an excellent opportunity to show off its new military prowess.

http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2017/02/23/516895124/russian-defense-minister-says-his-military-has-tested-162-weapons-in-syria

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Explain why Trotsky was wrong

PROTIP: you can't

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Project Get Zizek on Rogan

Step 1) Go to this recent Rogan Podcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhHtBqsGAoA

Step 2) suggest in the comments that Joe Rogan invite Zizek on his show

Step 3)????

Step 4) Profit

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how do you want to die?

i wanna go out gunning bourg

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>There are retards browsing leftypol RIGHT NOW who will defend Lenin's metaphysics

Tell me about how Marx's anthropological realism is compatible with copy theory of perception again?

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It seems that there is a poster or posters who are trying to turn this place into lefty r9k the past few days and mods are not doing anything about it.

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There is a very big and even growing tendency here to outright reject Reddit, understandably so. It's user base is mostly liberal or reformist and the few leftist subs there are, are controlled by LARPing college students – you get banned for the slightest transgression or upset, for personal opinions that are unrelated to the class struggle or even for just personally upsetting a mod and so on. This obviously makes it very unattractive to everyone who is getting interested in socialist ideas and is not helpful towards any form of recruitment or organization.

Now, my question is: What is going on with /r/leftypol? I see it has been claimed and reactived by /u/_metamythical – is that person known here and can we trust him? The subreddit looks dead as fuck right now and I don't think it is being promoted or cared for at all.

In any case I believe we must have a presence on Reddit and in these regards learn from the alt-right. When /pol/ started /r/the_donald, they massively flooded that subreddit with both legit activity through users and fake activity through bots: memes, posts, upvotes and so on. These are the kinds of dirty tactics we need to make use of as well – other subreddits did even a half decent job at it, sadly they're in the hands of the wrong people (/r/LateStageCapitalism for example). The whole Sanders crowd originally formed on Reddit and would be a big recruiting pool for example. There's a lot of movement we can build and minds we can influence here.

People don't like what is reasonable, they like what's popular. They like what's strong and what they can be part and proud of. You can call it a spook, but you would deny reality.

inb4 armchairs telling me we have to wait for the material conditions to motivate the people (kys)

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Marxism-Leninism thread

If you are m-l or m-l-m feel free to comment something. If you are not, feel free to ask things.

101 readings, you should have read at least this:

>Karl Marx, LENIN: https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/granat/index.htm

>Dialectical and historical materialism, STALIN: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

>State and Revolution, LENIN: https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/index.htm

>Foundations of leninism, STALIN: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1924/foundations-leninism/index.htm

>Wage, labor and capital, MARX: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/wage-labour/index.htm

>On the correct handling of contradictions among the people, MAO: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-5/mswv5_58.htm

Basic readings

>Elementary principles of philosophy, POLITZER: https://www.scribd.com/document/308584781/Elementary-Principles-of-Philosophy-by-Georges-Politzer

>Political Economy, a begginer's course, LEONTIEV: https://marxistleninist.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/1936_political-economy-_a-beginners-course_a-leontiev_1936.pdf

>What is to be done?, LENIN: https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1901/witbd/index.htm

>Imperialism, the highest stage of capitalism, LENIN: https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/index.htm

>The right of nations to self-determination, LENIN: https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/self-det/index.htm

>On practice, MAO: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-1/mswv1_16.htm

>On contradiction, MAO: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-1/mswv1_17.htm

>Combat liberalism, MAO: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_03.htm

>Ten days that shook the World, REED: https://www.marxists.org/archive/reed/1919/10days/10days/

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Why can we have a left/communist MGTOW movement? If there's enough of us and we get our shit together we could have some kind of manifesto. A real simple manifesto where we lay down our ideology, I'm talking really basic shit like, would be something like this:

>Late bourgeois feminism has managed to integrate many females into the relations of production. The old social model of males as material providers and females as being in charge of social reproduction is largely obsolete

>We see this as progress. It is not on our interest to go back to "how things used to be" we acknowledge how enormously positive this is. What we demand of society is that it carries this gender revolution to the end, by stopping to place excessive cultural and economic demands on males

>We demand that since material conditions have evolved to the point where females can be incorporated into capitalist relations of production (by reducing physical toil to a minimum), then this reduction of physical toil should also translated into more leisure for all. Waged slavery has pernicious, negative effects both psychologically, and in the way man relates to man and man to woman. The transition from the realm of necessity to the realm of freedom is a material possibility in our advanced post-industrial societies and one that must be pursued since it also eliminates the alienation between male and female.

>Bourgeois feminism sees as its end females taking high positions within the pecking order of bourgeois society. We ask for the elimination of hierarchy as the only point at which male and female can be truly free

>until the time when our political views can be met, we communist MGTOWs are to DROP OUT of productive relations, as within our capacity (we still live in capitalism where we have to enter relations of production not of our choice, after all) and of REPRODUCTIVE relations, we are to ensure the destruction of the bourgeois family as the only point at which something else may take its place, even if this can only be by means of revolution.

>We consider sexual needs to be largely secondary and bourgeois indoctrination, and are willing to sacrifice them in the name of social change

>betas of the world, unite!

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Some of you guys are ok, don't go to Raqqah tomorrow

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Post rare Porkys

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Female on /Leftypol/ : Nature vs Nurture

So there's 1 female for every 100 or so males on /leftypol/ and generally across all imageboards.

How do you explain that?

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Political organizing

We need to get some new hot twitter tags going. #ResistCapitalism was great. Lets keep it up!

We should start plans on other social media platforms as well.

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What will happen to the USPTO under socialism? Why would someone be motivated to invent something if they don't get a copyright?

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We need a purge on the board.

As someone who has browsed /leftypol/ regularly since the beginning of 2016 I've noticed the steadily rising number of /r/cointelprol normies and /pol/ false flag posters. We simply need a period of revolutionary terror on the board in order to clean out all fascist elements and counterrevolutionaries. Trust me comrades the memes will improve and our discourse will remain unimpeded by filthy reddit scum and idpol. Don't listen to anybody who uses the term "brocialist" or anything anfem poster says. If you suspect a thread is being shitted up by a reddit suckdem or /pol/ users posing as trotskyists then ensure that thread is obliterated. We must do this for proletarian shitposting, the people's protracted memewar must continue.

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What went so wrong?

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Your political system is a zionist ploy.

I'm an actual Russian born in 1968. I know how shitty it was.

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You walk into a bar and this guy slaps your waifu's ass. How do you respond?

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What aspects of your personality and/or personal history has led you to being a leftist? If any?

For me, ever since I was young I've had this almost pathological hatred of authority and discipline. From elementary until high school I probably ended up despising upwards of 90% of teachers I've had. I remember thinking that school was like a prison when I was growing up, I yearned for a free and creative environment where I could engage in whatever activities I found intellectually or personally stimulating rather than having my education dictated for me. Does this ring true for anyone else here?

pic unrelated

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What are some /leftypol/ approved news sources? I'm a recent ancap convert and want to know where I can stay up to date with current events from a leftist perspective.

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Here's some OC I made regarding the recent shooting of Srinivas Kuchibhotla. Spread it as you please.

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Making some gay ass flagshit, if you want me to do any just say who and what.

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ITT: we pretend we're from r/thedonald and that today is our first day on leftypol

How do I updon this post?

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What's your thoughts on socialist Angola and Mozambique? Were they successful?

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me the intelligent black man