/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2688505

but what makes it "garbage" you fucking mongoloid?

I am interested in political sciences, and liberalism is exactly what inspires me with confidence in the future of our political situation. Recently, I was asked to write an essay, I immediately chose the topic of liberalism. Despite the fact that I am interested in this subject, I do not know how to write an essay correctly. https://writingcheap.com/ I found help here. By the way, I would like to know how you think about the liberal orientation of world politics. Is such a turn of events possible?

>>2683284

source:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/ch09.htm

>>2688694

Just imagine the kind of shitshow Libya would throw the West into if he hadn't given up the nuclear program in 2003 and went ahead with this Gold Dinar thing. NATO would probably try to destabilize the rest of the region though to prevent this from spreading though, and they would spend tenfold into artificial revolutions and sanctions against Libya.

>>2688702

I like you, rethuglicanon.

>>2688413

https://twitter.com/WingsScotland/status/1053737365817253889

>>2687233

Who the fuck designed that and thought it was good

>>2686192

Makes you realise that at the end of the day the power of a non-violent protest is in its potential for violence, either by the protesters or against them. When everyone knows that all the protesters are going to do is vote Lib Dem and share stuff on Facebook, the government has no reason to pay attention.

>>2688460

>Makes you realise that at the end of the day the power of a non-violent protest is in its potential for violence, either by the protesters or against them. When everyone knows that all the protesters are going to do is vote Lib Dem and share stuff on Facebook, the government has no reason to pay attention

I mean the whole exercise was basically an attempt to form a "third party" by using civil society elements, the existing infrastructure of the lib dems and sympathetic tory and "Labour" MPs. The reports are that by May next year several MPs will have defected and Vince Cable will step-down to allow a new leader to take his place with the aim of scoring electoral victory.

As a burger, what is Corbyn's victory plan? How does he transition his popular movement into an electoral victory and transition the UK into socialism?

Eu queria o retorno dos polígrafos. Precisamos de mais polígrafos e menos juízes de merda.

>>2688683

>glaringly clear racist statement

wot

>>2688696

It's a bit tricky to translate. Basically, Brazil has these places called quilombos, villages founded by runaway slaves, and they're kind of a protected territory, like Indian reservations. Naturally, our elite hates both to death. Bolsonaro visited one in the past, and later recounted: "The lightest Afrodescendant there weighed 7 arrobas. They don't do anything! I don't think they can even be breeders anymore". An important detail: arroba is a word used only in Brazil, and only as a weight measurement for cattle. This much is beyond dispute. Add the "breeder" part, and, well… Our Supreme Court voted to drop the charge by 4 against 3.

I feel like this thread needed more articled and OP/EDs related to Russia and China preparing a new gold standard, it's a pretty big deal.

>>2688388

A new gold standard would be fucking retarded though, since the amount of Gold available cannot be freely adjusted anywhere near as fast as the amount of Fiat Currency and Gold actually has commercial and industrial use now other than just being pretty to look at

They should back it in clean water, that's getting pretty rare

>>2688686

It seems to me that finance based on actual physically-backed currency makes a hundred times more sense than floating exchange rates which just promote US domination. I don't know though, I'm not that well-read in economics.

>>2688706

This is a pretty good introduction to the pros and cons of basing your unit of exchange in an actual good that has value in of itself

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gold_standard_(economics)

tl:dr Gold standard is easier to figure out and set up but has harsher limits,has less room for growth and is more difficult to manage when things start to go wrong in an advanced economy

>>2688706

>It seems to me that finance based on actual physically-backed currency makes a hundred times more sense than floating exchange rates which just promote US domination.

It does, just not in gold. Gold is everywhere these days, even inside your phone and military missiles, it's a widely used industrial resource. A gold standard adopted on a big enough scale would just nuke the world economy. Customer electronics would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. I don't know what they are thinking.

>>2688489

Metal thieves have the right idea: strip the suburbs for parts.

>>2688480

Not to mention, a lot of Industry in America has been offshored, so we’ll have to rebuild a lot of it, however unlike third world revolutionaries we’d still start with a lot of Industry, though it’d be in inconvenient places because American Industry is mostly in rural areas.

>>2688489

Definitely will have to be large scale redesign on suburbs, but I dont think that is really limited to the suburbs. Cities will have to be scaled down, rural areas scaled up(the old abolition of differrences of town and country). I think most of the country would actually be "suburban" though obviously with total redesign towards more social living and community. Im right with you on cars. Personal car ownership will have to be phased out and massive public transport projects taken up.

>>2688575

I actually think industry being concentrated in rural areas is a good thing for socialist construction. It would make the task of building up rural areas easier, while in urban areas it would be easier to build industry in places that are already urbanized.

>>2688668

ah so everyone becoming genderqueer is the end goal of communism, at last I finally see.

>>2688673

Not really, you're just retarded.

It's the same thing with imagining society without any social categories that operate in a class system. What does it mean when the proletariat disappears? Is everyone equal now? Wow, communism wants to brainwash brainwash everyone into being equal, it's jewish propaganda.

The point is we don't fucking know how life looks like when the category of gender division doesn't mean anything, but we analyse it in the framework of political economy. If you don't believe that a society can exist where people have more natural relations without the structural constraints of economics, then what are you even doing on this board presumably calling yourself a communist or a marxist? It's basic fucking theory.

>>2688657

>that's the essence of dialectical materialism.

>Anglo/US PC tranny bullshit that has become hip five minutes ago is actually what Marxism is all about

How about you actually unironically kill yourself?

>>2688685

You sound triggered. Tell us how gender is not a part of the superstructure and cannot be analyzed as a product of class society, as opposed to being a vulgar biological determinist to epicly own le idpol anglo libtards.

>>2688691

Is this what actual brocialism looks like, when you can only apply marxist analysis on labour and nothing else? I swear I wouldn't be surprised if Engels was now considered a filthy liberal for being basically a materialist feminist.

The difference between intersectional liberalism and Marxism is that the former sees class as just another vector of inequality, while Marxism looks at gender/racial inequality as arising from the relations of production under a given materialist basis. It's not REE LIBERAL to theorize about what place gender holds in the structure, it's still a his-mat critique.

>>2687646

>What's it called if you divide the country up into equal parcels and give every citizen a piece of land?

Having a tiny garden.

Well in case of my country that is. In case of places like hong kong it would be having your own personal poststamp.

>>2688084

>feudalism without feudal lords.

so…communism

>>2687646

READ MARX

>>2687782

Earth. This ridiculous assumption that land is cheap shows how naive and sheltered you are. I own a business and literally everything costs a fuck ton of money. Usable land is generally expensive, cheap land is typically undesirable (on a mountainside etc) and wouldn't make for a good farm. Some exceptions exist of course but by and large land, and anything else that one needs for commerce, is fucking expensive. This is the reason that most 'entrepreneurs' are actually rich kids or others with 'fuck you' money. This is the result of the capitalist machine.

>I like communism but I want to be a bourg, can I be a bourg under communism guiz?

Tough shit. A "big farm all to yourself" would either require you to hire labor to maintain it, or waste a shitton of land that could otherwise benefit society for no reason other than your hubris. Neither are acceptable. You'll get a dacha with a garden big enough to be maintained by one person or a small family, like in the USSR. That should be plenty enough for a comfy hikki lifestyle.

Also we get "guyz I don't like people what do under socialisms xd" threads every week. You won't be forced to interact with other people, though you will have to work. However, many barriers to socialization will be gone. You will probably not have this problem under socialism in the first place.

It's usually twisted into the narrative that "communists want equal outcome", but I think the weights and other devices that hamper the characters could be read as symbolic of disabilities or economic deprivation; the device that makes it hard to think is stress from not being able to pay the bills, the weights fatigue from slaving away all day. Rather than it being a polemic against communism, I think it's more about how those in power often retard the potential growth of many people.

But that's just my opinion and it's been years since I read it.

>>2688674

>obvious criticisms of communism are in fact awkshully pro communist

no /leftycuck/ YOU are the ones with worms in your brains

>>2688707

>Vonnegut disregarded more mainstream political ideologies in favor of socialism, which he thought could provide a valuable substitute for what he saw as social Darwinism and a spirit of "survival of the fittest" in American society,[107] believing that "socialism would be a good for the common man".[108] Vonnegut would often return to a quote by socialist and five-time presidential candidate Eugene V. Debs: "As long as there is a lower class, I am in it. As long as there is a criminal element, I'm of it. As long as there is a soul in prison, I am not free."[109][110] Vonnegut expressed disappointment that communism and socialism seemed to be unsavory topics to the average American, and believed that they may offer beneficial substitutes to contemporary social and economic systems

<no he was akschually anti-communist ben shapiro told me xd

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch01.htm

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch01.htm

>But one man is superior to another physically, or mentally, and supplies more labor in the same time, or can labor for a longer time

This? Should've probably asked in the "questions that don't deserve their own thread" thread btw

>>2688634

And here is the relevant part where Marx wrote about how remuneration for labor would work in post-revolution communist society:

>But one man is superior to another physically, or mentally, and supplies more labor in the same time, or can labor for a longer time; and labor, to serve as a measure, must be defined by its duration or intensity, otherwise it ceases to be a standard of measurement. This equal right is an unequal right for unequal labor. It recognizes no class differences, because everyone is only a worker like everyone else; but it tacitly recognizes unequal individual endowment, and thus productive capacity…

Thanks, that's the quote I was looking for, I was able to find it after that person linked the anarchopac video.

>>2688637

So what does this mean in practice. Since labor vouchers would mean everyone gets the same hourly rate, how would people be awarded for doing "better" work? I presume through recognition, better benefits, promotion to higher authority, and so on.

>>2688622

>>2688632

if I shit all over your lawn every single day and then clean up 5% of it at night does that suddenly make me not someone who still shits all over your lawn every day? Face it China is not anywhere near serious about climate change. Investing more than Amerikkka is not the standard that anyone should be measuring it by.

why i have to see a new thread about this stupid apocalyptic bullshit cult every day?

GLOBAL apocalyptic Nazi masturbation fantasy by 2030, buy guns ammo petrol MREs and medicine now it's all you can do

>>2682281

Dat zijn echt zulke koekwouzen. Heb eens in die discord gezeten, is eigenlijk gewoon een clubje voor een stelletje SP vrienden die elkaar allemaal mod/admin hebben gemaakt.

>>2688574

>in de ban geslagen

?

>>2688587

>á la V.S.

hoop van niet

>het V.K.

zou mooi zijn

>>2688587

>á la V.S.

hebben we al, Groenlinks

>>2688671

Op de zwarte lijst staan.