/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2039154

AND ITS BACK!

>>2053371

I get that it's a joke but I also feel obliged to explain the difference

Identity politics, to me at least, is wrong because the 'user' is attempting to use their identity to get things they don't necessarily deserve or to disparage another group of people based on a common feature or identity.

The ideology I rabidly defend is the appreciation and preservation of identity, not the use of identity to create an advantage over others.

Contrary to popular belief, "nationalism for me and not for thee" is only really practiced in the skinhead circles.

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>>2053431

I don't buy it. Every time I talk with someone who talks about "i only want people to have their nation" it breaks down into "nationalism for me and not for thee" the moment it becomes inconvenient. I still have never seen a single "nationalist" defend the rights of natives to their land when said natives aren't white.

>>2049886

name a single leader

>>2049866

>I know what this guy does based on his internet shitposting activity

This is why militancy is the highest stage of alienation, folks.

To give you my radical credos, I've had to emigrate to a different country because I could no longer get by here, being blacklisted in my sector and essentially unable to get any work in it because I tried to make the single yellow union of it more of a class union.

>>2049441

>>2049817

holy shit, that thread is gold!

>We just spent untold hours and hundreds of thousands of dollars on a convention

THAT'S WHAT ALL YOUR Democratic Cops of America DUES GO TO, ELECTING THE COP

>We could be doing real work in our communities or we could be wasting time figuring out which motel to host another convention at

>We could be organizing support for Houston, putting together labor initiatives, or canvassing plans for single-payer.

Sounds like a good argument to dissolve the Democratic Cops of America!

>They already know that a virtual convention is impossible.

huuuu why?

>Imagine coming into your first Democratic Cops of America chapter meeting and this being the message you're given [sectarian shit]

Good, hope people stay away from the cops.

>We can disagree with them, but this "spineless" NPC did what they thought was best for the org

>In response we have factions trying to grind our whole org to a halt for their pound of flesh

So the NPC gets to do what it think is "best," but the people who disagree with it have to voice their concerns quietly and with no threat of action.

>What could possibly go wrong with reelecting the entire NPC?

A whole lot, considering the Democratic Cops of America's procedures are fundamentally shit!

>>2049911

Well ultras are shit and they usually sit on their ass. Not a wild assumption to make. That said, good on you for trying to agitate.

>>2049960

>gets told why he shouldn't make assumptions and generalizations, with evidence to back it up

>repeats the same generalizations anyways because the idea is so ingrained in his head that it's an "obvious truth"

Motherfucker. Ideology as pure as the white of Zizek's cocaine.

>>2053826

Source for image is J. ARCH GETTY, GABOR T. RITTERSPORN, and VIKTOR N. ZEMSKOV, Victims of the Soviet Penal System in the Pre-war Years:A First Approach on the Basis of Archival Evidence

You're the one who can't do basic googling.

>>2053787

Has he ever used to term 'cultural marxism' or does he just call it 'post-modernism'?

>>2053844

I support your point, I just want links to studies, as I am interested in good critiques of Solzhenitsyn.

More links the better

if you speak out against the sjw/idpol crazies, you will find an audience, even if your own views are just as stupid and worthless

this is why actual, educated, informed leftists need to need to denounce and refute the sjw movement, and stop the right from filling the vaccum and making their voice the dominant one

>>2053852

>critiques of Solzhenitsyn.

https://archive.org/details/ArchipelagoOfLies

https://www.marxists.org/archive/mandel/1974/05/solzhenitsyn-gulag.html

https://archive.org/details/pdfy-vswh1WhfRHkMIl4A

Also see this thread, CTRL+F Solzhenitsyn

https://8ch.net/marx/res/4702.html

>>2053131

>trump is wearing a hoodie

What in the everliving fuck.

In an apocalypse, Trump would be one of those weirdo villains who still insists on wearing a suit even though it is covered in dried blood and half burnt up.

Also Ben doesn't know how to spell Russia, or maybe there's a Russa I don't know about.

>>2053517

>>2053506

alright looking again I missed the second S so he actually got it right two times out of four.

Still hilarious.

>>2053131

When the fuck did Obama call for a civil war?

>>2052402

>and keeping capitalism alive for longer by

I don't see how our politicians delude themselves into believing that anything Western will remain, including capitalism, after decades of Islamic immigration, without a serious effort to integrate them. The migrants we have taken in since the 60s are STILL not really integrated as much as they could be, and an anti-Western sentiment is increasing rapidly, boosted by the several million new migrants who openly despise us, see our entire way of life as degenerate and wish to reform it into an Islamic way of life (including stopping the practice of loans with interest [already happening], and inevitably meaning the end of white/Christian/liberal politicians having any power).

I know that the EU has been talking of importing millions of Africans to boost the labour force since at least 2005, and that this 'Syrian' refugee crisis has been welcomed as a convenient disaster (in EU reports they speak of people risking their life in the med as an 'economic opportunity', go figure), but they must have some.. understanding of the fact that migration at this level means and end to what is ultimately, their riches and power?

>>2052413

>I wrote one sentence about you in my first post, and you chose to run with that instead of the part of my post about policy.

As I said, some people are not worth the time and energy to engage. If you start your enlightened™ post off with insulting me based on a random and meaningless macro, and end it with "well I'm actually new to my own ideology so idk lol", then you needn't be surprised I prefer to invest time in the countless other anons here who don't make a fool out of themselves.

>>2052440

>You are analyzing this under the context of capitalism.

I'm looking at it more under the belief that people naturally desire to 'get ahead' and earn/make some sort of profit off their work, and that that is a main driver of inovation and advancements. Some sort of financial profit, a status, a net gain of any sort, and I wonder if the same advancements can be made in a society that refuses to reward it, perhaps fails to motivate people to risk and work harder, or invest (emotionally/labour-wise) in crazy but potentially great ideas.

>or petitioning investors for money at some sort of pitch not have to adhere to the same things you are describing about my scenario?

Well I would say no. The main difference being, in my idea, the set of people you present your idea to. In your proposed situation that would generally be the community as a whole, regardless of merit or education, regardless of insight or experience in business, in the current situation you prefer to propose your ideas to the people who have shown themselves skilled and succesfull in the busines world, generally people who are more knowledgeable into which ideas might turn a profit and which not so much.

>We seek to get rid of money

I don't see how. Say your town is one community, and the next town is ten miles over, so they govern themselves as another community.

You produce more than you can use, do you send it to them for free? Do you tell half your people they can stop working? Who gets to stop working?

Do you trade the excess with other communities? What if your town has a great innovation that outproduces all nearby towns. Can those towns just stop working? Do you ask things in return? Some communities will fare better than others and this creates some inequality. What if a community has nothing to offer that you want, do you give it for free anyway in order for them not to starve? Other towns will now demand free produce as well. In these cases money can surely be a benefit, allowing people to trade for one single item that everyone can usePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2053378

>in biological realities such as Race (But not Racial supremacy)

I fail to see why so many people insist on linking race realism to racial supremacy. In my opinion, if racial differences can eventually be studied without taboo, and they are proven, we can use them to promote a more frictionless multicultural society, if we understood better the needs, strengths and tendencies of different groups. Instead most people seem to respond to the concept of race realism with accusations of genocide and eugenics.

>>2053437

>I know many Jewish people that to me are indistinguishable from any old person in relation to their behavior.

Jews have been occupied with currency, scheming and banking throughout history, but I wouldn't say there's reason to assume it's a genetic thing if that's what you're alluding to. A historical/cultural thing perhaps, possibly left over from being persecuted so often that they *need* to think in terms of 'sticking to the tribe', where in business that outs itself as nepotism. If you then couple that with distinct political goals, we immediately end up at a /pol/ level of distrust of Jews. That being said, just like in ww2, the wealthy Jews generally already took the chance to flee, leaving mostly the less fortunate Jews behind. It's not like they all help eachother. Plenty of Jews don't have a dime to their name, and the wealthier ones eagerly throw those to the lions and then come back afterwards to cry about how they themselves were the victims.

>>2053522

Good start.

>>2053528

>StormFront, and my dad was an absolute White supremacist with a family tree that included high ranking members of the Ku Klux Klan

>>2053865

What race is Barack Obama?

>>2053867

Mongrel therefore no Race. I'm gonna have to call this thread quits.

>>2052862

The other anon was speaking on my behalf, but he hit the nail on the head without naming it. The "Want it hard enough" shit is called the law of attraction.

>>2052519

What about the pleasure of being cummed inside?

>>2052515

The second part of the fucking sentence is "I have two main reasons for believing this." and the reasons are listed right below.

Some of you people are so fucking retarded, good lord.

>>2052854

Not so fast there: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/02/limits-to-growth-was-right-new-research-shows-were-nearing-collapse

Not a M-L just a newb who got everything from lurking this board, but I guess "commodity" means a product or service.

Something produced for exchange.

Goods in exchange

A commodity is something to be bought or sold, or being exchanged in a market.

>>2053468

hold my beer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L98M9K_D4z4

>>2053493

She's cute as fuck tho

>>2053780

wtf is a shirley card

>>2053777

trips of truth

>>2053805

>hurr durr Lenin Lenin should have had transformed feudal kingdom directly into communism

How many layers of utopianism are you on?

>>2053809

0

>>2053819

>0

So you are only on pure ideology then.

>>2053805

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_communism

How many times do I have to post this until you stop posting that shitty pic?

Honestly I think my biggest issue with the USSR is the Social Conservatism. I'm okay with a vanguard if I actually agree with their ideals.

Obviously a borderless society only makes sense in a post-capitalist world because economic and military pressures would make it an unstable state of affairs at best. Having people telling you where you can and can't go sucks ass, and it'd be nice if we could have a political system in which people stay the fuck out of your business.

Before the first world war, border control was nonexistent.

The Communists and Anarchists took advantage of that to circulate and organize, and the bourgeoisie used "muh spies" as an argument to start the first wave of lockdowns that lead to modern border control, walls, deportations and so on.

So, there's the first two things to know about borders.

(1) open borders is not some crazy new thing that suddenly emerged in the 21st century

(2) modern borders are not open, and in fact we live in an era of unprecedented impositions against human movement

>>2053760

it's important to note the lingual breakdown of the citizen/foreigner divide that preceded that post-WWI change

NO BORDERS

NO NATIONS

FUCK DEPORTATIONS!

>>2053743

GY!BE has always been like this. They're anarchists