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 No.2236958[Reply]

Direct all hotpocket related inquiries here.

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 No.2683404

>>2683221

Who are you quoting?




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 No.2300211[Reply]

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 No.2678846

>>2301330

I have just read it, I consider it decent, has some good observations, still leaves many questions unanswered, and I think it doesn't ask enough new questions, but it gropes for them nonetheless




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 No.518058[Reply]

Backup boards:

https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/

http://www.getchan.net/

Other boards:

>>>/anarcho/

>>>/marx/

>>>/freedu/

>>>/leftyweebpol/

>>>/gnussr/

>>>/leftpol/

Groups:

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/leftypol

http://qchat.rizon.net/?channels=leftypol

Leftybooru:

http://lefty.booru.org/

/leftypol/'s magazine:

http://bunkermag.org/

http://spectrerouge.com/

FAQ:

>How can you call yourselves leftist politically incorrect?

/leftypol/ posters are allowed to voice opinions that offend liberals, SJWs, and so on. All sects on the left are allowed to post on /leftypol/, leading to plenty of fighting and shitflinging between leftists, which other forums might ban. However, this was only a minor consideration in the naming of /leftypol/. Since the concept is simply a leftist version of /pol/, the entire name of /pol/ was retained.

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File: 4c71946713d704b⋯.jpeg (112.24 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, The Lad at Anfield.jpeg)

 No.2657347[Reply]

Lads, it seems our thread is bumplocked again. As such, another thread for your Britpol needs. This edition starts with the on-going Liverpool Conference, which seems pretty based so far.

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 No.2684077

>>2683566

Gary Numan as autistic Thatcherite is always too much for my poor sides.


 No.2684087

>>2682930

>Boy Scout handbook in the UK explicitly contained rules supporting employers, the royalty, and the military.

>The Boy Scouts in US emerged during the labour movement and explicitly removed these things with them abiding to requests by the IWW for the removal of all mentions of "loyalty to employers" and anti-war groups for the removal for mentions of military involvement.

Beard and Seton>Powell and West


 No.2684093

>>2683563

Has Gary Numan always been this much of a Tory?

I'm a burger btw


 No.2684118

>>2684093

Dude he's wearing a fucking suit and bow-tie do you even have to ask


 No.2684437

>>2683563

Where are all of them now? Some of their reasons are quite insightful for singers tbh




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 No.2684276[Reply]

Why do people trash Stalin? He literally saved the world.

> but muh 20 million killed in gulags

There is literally no proof of this

> but muh holodohoax

Literally caused by kulaks refusing to help the proletariat

> but muh socialism in one country isn't the right way

So you would just have endless war and destruction. It was only by building socialism in one country that the proletariat gained peace,land,and bread

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 No.2684406

Mostly brainwashing


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 No.2684425

>>2684401

This is why I think a Young Stalin movie would be awesome. Reading about where he was (the fucking Caucasus) and when (the fucking 1900s) is like reading about the Wild West. Baku was full of casinos and pollution from the oil industry, and his wife died suddenly of TB so he threw himself into her grave during the funeral. Brutal.

Also that heist he pulled off targeting the stagecoach with the imperial money that also involved him blowing up a portion of downtown Tiflis. That is like the movie Heat. Trotsky also disapproved and wrote the "booty did no good." Might've been involved in the notes being intercepted before they made into European banks due to the serial numbers. Yeah anyways. I don't think Hollywood will go for it.

But they should.


 No.2684430

he put his own son to death for not dying as a POW lol


 No.2684436

>>2684430

And if he had saved his son liberals would be attacking him for favoritism.




 No.2684266[Reply]

our guy in france is being fucked by macron, shocking

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/10/18/mele-o18.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcCRz9YOXBQ

thoughts?

JEAN-LUC MELENCHON

JEAN-LUC MELENCHONJEAN-LUC MELENCHONJEAN-LUC MELENCHONJEAN-LUC MELENCHONJEAN-LUC MELENCHON

JEAN-LUC MELENCHON

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 No.2684364

>>2684338

ah, yes. the two tendencies: social democracy and marx-leninism


 No.2684372

>>2684362

Southern France has American-tier style wealth inequality. Go to the Pyrenees and it's not unusual to see 3 million Euro gated vacation homes down the street from a decaying village.


 No.2684378

>>2684297

Cortez and Sanders do not belong with the other two. Fuck them. At least with Corbyn and Melenchon I can see them going full red when the "time is right".


 No.2684391

>>2684378

TBH I see the opposite. There's no way Corbyn will do half the things he's proposing.


 No.2684435

>>2684391

Not for the lack of trying. I do agree that the UK establishment might screw with him ala A Very British Coup

>>2684358

Am interested to hear a non-meme expansion on this post




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 No.2664516[Reply]

It's time again to discuss our favourite latin american country and target of US intervention. As usual, it's impossible to find any factual information of what's going on. I checked /arepa/ (the venezuelan board) and it's full of petit-bourg fascists literally calling for american intervention.

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 No.2684414

>>2684363

>conflating race with skin color


 No.2684418

>people are still defending a failed succdem government started by a clueless populist that put every egg into the same volatile basket

I know the usual corporate sabotage played some role in the collapse, but Americans are obsessed with Venezuela for a reason: it's a perfect example of what they think socialism is.


 No.2684422

>>2684414

>conflating reality with fiction


 No.2684427

>>2664516

>muh sanctions

>>2664518

/thread

The only time socialism worked was when Hitler tried it. It took the entire world to wage countless years of war to destroy his utopia. Compare that to a few “sanctions” that has caused every socialist country to collapse like a tower of cards in the wind.


 No.2684434

>>2684427

>The only time socialism worked was when Hitler tried it.

Are you TRS or something? Not even /pol/ worships Hitler anymore.




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 No.2263573[Reply]

ITT: movies, anime, music, feels, e-celebs, internet drama, fetishes, shitposting, etc.

This is a voluntary thread that users can choose to post in, if… I forgot the rest of whatever the old OP was. Honestly, I just wanted to bring this old thread back.

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>>2682603

Enrique Jorge, guy definitely was onto something giving how many emerging economies were successful by following his advice. I'll later attempt to link Georgism to Communism, because I do believe that by equally dividing land we'd reach communism faster than with any revolution.

>>2682624

Noice, have a Trump Krush-bol pic.

>>2682771

Holy fuck.

>>2683159

Now I'm interested! Finally, a left youtuber that actually works.

>>2683176

Tomoko, you are now commune bycicle: party splitters get splited.

>>2683809

Oh shit, didn't know somebody was collecting those as well. I got a zip here with all the files, I check your post later and see if I missed anything.

>>2683881

Oh, shut the fuck up you stupid snowflake. The guy has his problems, you have yours, you gonna act like you are better for being worse? What kind of dumb ass tumblr tier bullshit is this? Just fuck off already.

>>2683982

Oh shit, we can throw them at eachother!


 No.2684411

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>>2684409

>Oh, shut the fuck up you stupid snowflake. The guy has his problems, you have yours, you gonna act like you are better for being worse? What kind of dumb ass tumblr tier bullshit is this? Just fuck off already.

You're projecting your inner /pol/ right there buddy


 No.2684417

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>>2684257

Literally utilizing the big other!

>>2683985

I'm glad the split is happening now instead of when in a time where the left was bigger.

Also, who the fuck will miss Peter? Not even people that like Contra like him. Guy was a legit creep 8 years ago and still can't fucking stop trying to make up for it.


 No.2684421

File: 869f0f0c518c93f⋯.png (350.37 KB, 500x534, 250:267, tito irl.png)

>>2684411

You are more obnoxious than every pol implant that ever came here.


 No.2684433

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>>2684421

You seem to be the one here blaming and calling everyone else here wrong you stupid diet pepsi. You're just getting mad at anyone having issues you don't understand simply think that somehow everyone has egalitarian issues. Even Trots at least justifies calling me out for bullshit, you're just mad cause you're a damn sperg who's mad so you're gonna get mad at someone else. I think there's a voting station over there, so go ruin people's lives by using that you sad little man.




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 No.2684301[Reply]

Would China's "Social Credit System" be allowed in a socialist state?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System

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 No.2684355

>>2684353

He actually provides sources and the actual documentation. Now SHOW ME THE ARTICLES that you've read that do the same.


 No.2684369

>>2684355

I'm really just fucking with you, I actually don't think the social credit system is all that bad. It's not that different than like credit scores or voluntary social media that intel agencies use to monitor and make databases


 No.2684385

>>2684301

In a sense I think it may be a prerequisite for any post-industrial society to actually function. Metropolitan areas gravitate towards vast cultureless blobs where people search for degenerate hives filled with people who suffer the same patholigies as them. This is only accelerated by 'you deserve it' 'don't let them stop you from being yourself! buy this hammock' marketing. The end result is a society made up of narcissists who are incapable of living alongside one another. You can't go back to the kind of strict, tribal cultures where etiquette and social norms are unavoidable without killing like 99% of the global population. Some new form of enforcing social norms must emerge and this is probably our best bet. The obvious danger is that it will be weaponized against the proletariat and you'll lose social point for not laughing at adverts or wearing a tshirt thats more than a month old.


 No.2684423

Sounds appropriate for their current situation. The threat of counter revolution is extremely high with the recession looming on the horizon. The party needs to keep the bourg under control.


 No.2684432

>>2684369

>It's not that different than like credit scores or voluntary social media that intel agencies use to monitor and make databases

Except those things fucking suck.




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 No.2683450[Reply]

Why doesn't self-described "socialist" China which is ruled by the "communist" party have free / universal health care, but other capitalist countries like Taiwan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Thailand and many others do?

Even Cuba, North Korea and Venezuela which have been sanctioned to hell still manage to provide it at little to no cost for their citizens. China is now the second largest economy and first or second place (depending which numbers you count) in industrial output yet the government is STILL talking about privatisation and subsidising private health insurers instead of taking the single national insurance system route that Taiwan and South Korea took. What the hell is the point of "socialism with Chinese characteristics" if neighbouring capitalist countries with smaller economies manage to have better standards of living AND income equity?

http://globalresidenceindex.com/hnwi-index/health-index/

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 No.2684367

>>2684238

>I want to use anecdotes to prove my point

>but I don't need to provide evidence just trust me on this one lol


 No.2684381

>>2684367

>dude only the wise and mysterious chinese can offer an opinion on this secluded country lmao


 No.2684392

Succdems:

>Socialism is when the state owns major industries and institutes widespread public services

Liberals:

>Socialism is when the government does some stuff and, like, regulated markets

Dengists:

>Socialism is when you develop the productive forces a lot with socialist privatisation. The more you develop the productive forces the socialister it is


 No.2684429

>>2684240

>thus does not deserve much more than critical support against US imperialism

It doesn't even really deserve that tbh. China is probably the #2 or #3 imperialist power in the world, its not even comparable to Syria or Iran. The correct (or at least properly Leninist) line would be to promote revolutionary defeatism among both Chinese and Western workers.


 No.2684431

>>2684429

America must be defeated first. There can be no compromise here.




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 No.2676764[Reply]

Requesting a cuba thread.

We all so often hear of butthurt liberal and conservative comments on Cuba, usually followed by a torrent of literacy and healthcare increases etc.

Under all it's embargoes, death of it's big brother, the SU; what were the accomplishments of Fidel and his government overall? and where is Cuba heading now?

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 No.2679778

>>2679731

not true, knights were mostly cavalry and the cavalry of the 20th and 21st century are the air force when the planes are manned that is


 No.2684379

File: c393e7cb8553d23⋯.jpg (619.21 KB, 800x1220, 40:61, fidel on kim.jpg)

bump


 No.2684393

>anon tries to make a nice cuba thread

>degenerates in to autstic power armor discussion


 No.2684415

>>2684393

But anon the future wars will literally fought in power armor like in my vidya. Scifi is the best way to predict the future.


 No.2684428

And what exactly is wrong with conservative thinking? Cuba is a shining example of a failing government institution. Fidel Castro and his policies ruined Cuba.




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 No.2682896[Reply]

Redpill me about the migrant crisis and the fact that the left failed. How can the left solve the migrant crisis and response to the rise of the right.

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 No.2684008

>>2682931

I live near dallas to


 No.2684009

File: b4459f241f696e1⋯.gif (168.86 KB, 3435x2220, 229:148, american imperialism.gif)

Never forget that America and Europe created the migrant "crisis". They deserve all the pain that this causes them.


 No.2684014

>>2682943

>To think that we can't make middle eastern immigrants embrace secularism, socialism, feminism etc. is a lazy attitude

My two questions about this hypothesis are 1.) how long is this going to take and 2.) is bringing tons of pretty radical on average Muslims into European countries gonna end up being counterrevolutionary?


 No.2684416

>>2682923

sure. It isn't like you need to organize housing for houndreds of thousands of people or something, so lets just smash the state


 No.2684426

>>2683311

That is essentially the point. It sounds schmaltzy, but it is completely true that colonialism never really ended–much of the native African leadership are useful idiots and puppets for Western interests, they have been since they gained independence. Leftist governments were routinely crushed, usually by the burgers as part of their "domino theory" Cold War proxy bullshit.




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 No.2684328[Reply]

Why do all of our productive threads die?

The only threads that really pick up steam are country ones, bait or meme and /pol/ discussions.

Have we reached peak defeatism or are we just lazy ?

:^(

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 No.2684356

File: 0ba17fa01a5504c⋯.jpeg (302.27 KB, 400x300, 4:3, leftypol.jpeg)

This has always been our way unfortunately


 No.2684389

>>2684356

i think we lack the autism to think we are part of something.


 No.2684400

>productive threads

What do you even mean by this?


 No.2684419

>>2684328

>Why do all of our productive threads die?

BECAUSE COMMUNISM DOESN’T WORK


 No.2684424

A racist white leftcom IDF professor and state department informant was teaching a class on Gilles Dauve, a known pedophile. "Before the class begins, you must fall on your knees and accept that socialism has never existed and all the revolutionaries of the global south were wrong and stupid to try and bring it about!" At this moment, a brave, principled, anti-imperialist counter-propagandist champion who served five tours of duty on twitter and understood the necessity of people's war war and fully supported all decisions made by the Chinese government stood up and addressed the professor. "How much further do the productive forces need to be developed before communism becomes possible?" The arrogant professor smirked quite Jewishly and smugly replied "it's possible now, you stupid ☭TANKIE☭" "Wrong. We are only ready for the transitional phase of socialism. If it was really, as you say, possible all along— then the USA should be communist by now now" The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of Endnotes. He stormed out of the room crying those liberal crocodile tears. The same tears liberals cry for the American "working class" (who today live in such luxury that most own refrigerators) when they jealously try to tear down the accomplishments of the anti-imperialist nations of the global south. There is no doubt that at this point our professor, John Maynard-Williams, wished he had pulled himself up by his bootstraps and become more than an adventurist western ultraleftist. He wished so much that he had a gun to shoot himself from embarrassment, but he himself had petitioned against them! The students applauded and all joined the PSL that day and accepted Stalin as the saviour of socialism. An eagle named "Class Character" flew into the room and tore down the American Flag and shed a tear on the chalk. Economic Problems of Socialism was read several times, and Deng Xiaoping himself showed up and declared a new era of socialism. The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He was discovered masturbating to Astro Boy porn and banned from twitter for all eternity.




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 No.2380778[Reply]

monitoring the market, trends, fluctuations

original post:

How can a lefty exploit this to their advantage? Is it too soon to try? DOW down about 1000 points since Thursday.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2018/02/05/dow-falls-300-points-open-extending-declines-last-week/306400002/

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File: be9c0e7f49621fb⋯.png (28.23 KB, 849x298, 849:298, Screenshot_2018-10-18 Dow ….png)

D R O P


 No.2684404

Literally 4 left in green


 No.2684407

File: d91f0eb98e72557⋯.png (25.94 KB, 856x305, 856:305, Screenshot_2018-10-18 CBOE….png)

VIX IS STILL GOING UP


 No.2684410

stocks dropping because the u.s. treasury sec pulled out of the saudi conference


 No.2684413

File: 41c3b74eec93501⋯.jpg (292.4 KB, 1080x1848, 45:77, Screenshot_20181018-121300….jpg)

BURN MOTHERFUCKER BURN




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 No.2682878[Reply]

>be ex-Yugoslav

>realize that market socialism doesn't work and agree with MLs on most issues

How do I deal with this? The only socialists I meet around here are totally fooled by trotskyist propaganda and want to bring back some idealized version of Titoism. I don't deny the many good aspects of Yugoslavia but I have big problems with the fact that we were heavily supported by western banks and didn't go nearly far enough economically.

Any yugos here have some on how they deal with being commies?

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 No.2684234

>>2684230

Wait I just thought of something.

Why not give each worker a scoreboard and have them rate their peers and have that determine their wage.


 No.2684249

>>2684218

those usually calling themselves ML aren't, marked socialism is the most direct realization socialism and the closest to actual communism, because in marked socialism, when a company was succesful, it had a 100% direct beneficial impact to their income, while in COMECON that was not at all the case.


 No.2684253

>>2684234

>>2684249

… and yes, decisions be made (directly) democratically by the workers in companies with 10-70 employees, beginning at 30 they could decide whether they want to switch to representative democracy electing a workers council, beginning at 70 it was mandatory.


 No.2684275

>>2684249

Socialism is workplace decision-making

Go away Richard Wolff


 No.2684408

>>2682883

I guess that's this slavic spirit they talkin about




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