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File: 099f500e7014938⋯.jpg (41.13 KB, 306x425, 18:25, 2CFA406200000578-0-Jeremy_….jpg)

 No.1586156

Snap elections edition

 No.1688452

>>1688437

Yeah I do think they will pick up a couple of seats from people with EU-boners.


 No.1688455

Is there anything to the theory that the Tories are deliberately committing voter suicide with their retarded manifesto and policies so Labour has to handle the complete shitshow that will be Brexit and everything that goes wrong can be used as a stick to reinforce the "SOCIALISM BAD" meme

or am I just being paranoid


 No.1688459

>>1688452

maybe some Tory seats in London possibly they one that bi election a while ago

>>1688455

I doubt it I feel like May is under pressure from her party and British bourgeois to do brexit in a way that benefits them


 No.1688473

>>1688459

>May is under pressure from her party and British bourgeois to do brexit in a way that benefits them

good point


 No.1688476

File: ca080252b435b5b⋯.png (336.91 KB, 634x448, 317:224, 1471438098757.png)

>yfw you could have stopped it


 No.1688510

File: 1f91c8a994a88e6⋯.jpg (248.78 KB, 1153x1536, 1153:1536, oulis2006-bzm-0360-0.jpg)

It's a shame a Liberal surge doesn't seem to be materialising. The poster is basically historically true. (I like it for design reasons.)

Corbyn has a reasonable chance of getting a better vote % than Blair in 2005 but still losing, since the Liberals are dead and the Conservatives aren't.


 No.1688521

LABOUR UP TO 35


 No.1688525

>>1688521

source?


 No.1688529


 No.1688534

File: 67ca19db444525f⋯.png (18.7 KB, 590x248, 295:124, 5fac3d695ba57ad6a86f4086ab….png)

It continues.


 No.1688539

>>1688534

>>1688534

>unelectable man elected again


 No.1688542

>>1688529

>>1688534

Fuck is he going to do it? He does need to take at least 6 or 7 percentage points from the torys to win. There's still two weeks so who knows


 No.1688545

>>1688539

Just imagine how embarrassed May would be if she only gained one seat never mind losing seats


 No.1688549

Corbyn surely has to stay if they mid to high 30s are consistent to the end of the election, even if he loses?


 No.1688552

File: 728957f58731761⋯.jpg (53.25 KB, 600x572, 150:143, Pepe_Corbyn.jpg)

>Tories lead cut from 21 points to 9 points in one month.

Only thing stopping Jez is time.


 No.1688555

>>1688552

Time and the tory lead the tory's vote needs to come. Maybe we will see this with pensions getting pissed off and turning to lib dems or labour


 No.1688556

>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/20/theresa-may-exclusive-interview-not-abandoning-thatcherism/

>“Now, I do approach things in a different way - in the sense that my thinking on every job I do is just get in there, do the best I can and get on with it.”

wow, what a towering intellect she is

you brits are lucky to have her :^)


 No.1688557

File: e2c3880563f00a3⋯.png (352.55 KB, 539x748, 49:68, Remember the last time the….png)

who /praying for 1974/ here.

I know that it's a spiked example (Labour would probably have been better off had they lost that election since they inherited a shit economy, and if Labour wins they'll probably be blamed for the upcoming recession) but simply seeing off May would be enough for me.

Poster is from 1978 (Accounts vary as to whether it was used, or they were all burned after the winter of discontent) but I like it.


 No.1688565

File: 5d2685e10cedca2⋯.mp4 (1.89 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, thieving tory bastards.mp4)


 No.1688574

>>1688557

>who /praying for 1974/ here.

Wait, I'm not that familiar with British politics but wasn't that the start of Labour's decline and where everyone got sick of union bullshit?

inb4 Blairposting


 No.1688577


 No.1688595

>>1688574

Yes and No. The party actually had some pretty large internal rifts before that (In opposition to Heath they were quite split over the EEC, hence why Harold Wilson, deft politician as he was, offered a referendum to smooth over the cracks.)

It wasn't really the unions fault so much as it was a big collision of factors mostly outwith their control. (Stagflation basically being a global norm and the worst of inflation being inherited from Heath.) Labour probably screwed up when they tried another round of pay restraint in 1978 (with the expectation even lower inflation than the 8% they achieved that year would help them get re-elected.) bringing on a (overblown but extant) wave of strikes.

People kind of got sick of unions because of the impressions created in the bourg press and because of conflation between officially sanctioned strikes and wildcat strikes. But really the blame at the root of it lies with global stagflation. The destruction of trade unions in this country was a tragedy.

I'd go into more detail but I need to run to the shops before they shut so it's not at the front of my mind. I'd say Labour's decline really began after 1979. (although they acceded to capitalist realism at the behest of the IMF.)


 No.1688601

File: d8f33eddd78d3b1⋯.gif (76.75 KB, 500x375, 4:3, nightmare.gif)

>>1688534

>mfw labour gets a majority but fails to form a government because blairites tear it asunder within weeks and corbyn gets removed in a vote of no confidence as his own party stabs him in the back (again)

>mfw the next recession hits and labour gets the blame and 'socialism' is tainted with a legacy of economic chaos again


 No.1688604


 No.1688609

>>1688604

just another day in their 2 year long smear campaign against corbyn


 No.1688618

>>1688609

i think it's working against them now, they're rehearsing old shit. calling corbyn an IRA member or anti semite might have been shocking a year or two ago but the saturation point was hit long ago because the right wing media played their cards too early.


 No.1688628

>>1688618

I agree they have been attacking him long before she called an election, and now the spotlight is on him as the "unelectable man" / underdog gaining in polls. Brits love an underdog and the torys have realised they have nothing left to attack him with it will be really interesting to see if Labour do win seats back


 No.1688670

>>1688542

Nah, he will need a major shift in Scotland to get a majority if it is this close: but denying May a majority will be a victory in itself.


 No.1688674

>>1688670

If the Torys didnt have a majority we could see a Labour minority government, it would be political suicide for the SNP to vote against Labour in Westminster


 No.1688882

File: e3791f2aa7ce86c⋯.png (2.17 MB, 1500x625, 12:5, 1455076740885.png)

>>1688552

If there was any justice in this world…


 No.1689018

>>1688604

really makes u think


 No.1689034

File: 14c34f83517246a⋯.jpg (19.91 KB, 460x287, 460:287, Peter-Hitchens_877_1871668….jpg)

http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2017/05/peter-hitchens-the-marxist-revolution-is-alive-and-well-in-your-childs-school-.html

>What are they teaching your children? Are they teaching them how to think – or what to think? Worse, are they monitoring you by trapping your children into answering intrusive questions about your private opinions? Do you know? You may think that the crazy ideas of the hard Left are safely contained in Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party, or the Guardian newspaper.

But some recent disturbing letters from parents of school-age children made my stomach lurch. I saw in these accounts the gradually solidifying shape of a nasty new intolerance, state-financed and more or less unavoidable by anyone with school-age children.

>First of all, for a flavour of the ideas encouraged in our schools, look at a recent competition for ‘gifted pupils’. Let’s say this was ‘somewhere in Southern England’. Its theme was ‘2016: A Pivotal Year In History’, which might seem harmless. But what were the 15-year-olds involved actually doing?

>The competition brief allowed for a wide range of topics to be covered. Wide? Well, the winners discussed ‘prejudice in 2016’. What prejudice was that? ‘Incidents of hate crime after Brexit, Islamophobia and the media portrayal of these events.’ They also dealt with, yes, ‘gender, religious and racial equality’.

>Another team in this competition ‘highlighted’ the way in which David Bowie and Prince ‘made people start to question social convention on gender identity’. Others tackled ‘biased slants from certain media corporations’ by which I doubt they meant the BBC, and, of course, ‘climate change’ and immigration, those two tests of correctness and acceptability among the modern Left. Do you see a theme here? You should.

>For not far away, in a different part of Southern England, another parent tells me that his daughter recently came home from primary school bearing a decorated poster with ALLAH across the middle. That parent says: ‘I have yet to see a similar poster with GOD or JESUS across it.’ His son, at a secondary school, is about to visit a mosque. So far there have been no visits to Christian churches. But it goes further than that.

>At a recent parent-teacher meeting, which discussed ‘refugees’, the head teacher spoke of ‘these dark days’ since the EU referendum. The boy has recently come home from school and – with a note of disapproval in his voice – asked his father: ‘Dad, why do you read the Daily Mail?’ It turns out that a teacher had asked the pupils how their parents had voted for in the referendum, and when one of the pupils said ‘Brexit’, this teacher had responded, in a disapproving tone, by asking: ‘Why did they vote for that?’

>Let’s not exaggerate. These teachers are not (yet) reporting politically incorrect parents to the authorities. But what worries me is that all the preconditions for surveillance and indoctrination are there. Socially and morally conservative opinions are treated as phobias and heresies. Parents who hold such views are undermined by their children’s teachers. Already, on the excuse of discouraging Islamic extremism, schools are licensed to probe into the minds of their pupils. Once you’ve allowed this for one supposedly ‘extreme’ opinion, it’s not a big shift to move on to others.

In the meantime, might these attitudes affect such things as the grading of coursework, job and university applications? I don’t doubt it. Governments come and go, supposedly Left-wing and supposedly Right-wing – though the supposedly Right-wing ones usually turn out to be nothing of the kind. But in the schools, the universities and most of the public sector, the wild Marxist Cultural Revolution quietly continues its long march through the institutions.

Seems /leftypol/ did take notice in school.


 No.1689043

>>1689034

jesus fucking pissdrinking christ

how is any of this "marxist"


 No.1689044

>>1688882

There is no justice only profit.


 No.1689047

File: 31b0c44d3d93196⋯.jpg (95.84 KB, 878x693, 878:693, 31b0c44d3d931969b3f5d68edf….jpg)

>>1689034

While this is a bit silly I do think Peter might be onto something with the general erosion of conservative attitudes.

My thinking runs as follows: Christianity and that sort of personal-austerity that can run with certain varieties of it poses problems for consumer capitalist profitability. The two options ahead are to corrupt christianity ("name it and claim it", the US route.) or to push it out of social life so that it becomes meaningless (The British route.)

I'm sure I had more to this thought but really it's rooted in the pretty obvious thing that a Social Democrat has more time for Christian Democracy than for neoliberalism. (Now where's that political horseshoe with communism at the centre…)


 No.1689066

>>1689043

It's the spearhead of marxian praxis.

>>1689047

Business follows, it does not lead, for a business cannot afford to be politically incorrect. In 1930's Germany businesses advertised themselves a pure Aryan, in today's Germany they advertise themselves as "diverse". I could go on with examples, point being that businesses never lead ideological changes.

Neo-liberalism is like cultural marxism except that it has Friedman and Hayek instead of Adorno and Marcuse to play the role of the Jew.


 No.1689070

File: 14efe33b29a0b3c⋯.jpg (18.94 KB, 483x695, 483:695, 1459123779535.jpg)

>>1689066

>cultural marxism

idiot


 No.1689078

>>1689070

Unless marxists are cultureless beings, which would mean they are low-functioning retards, there has to be a culture of marxism. You could claim that this is a motte-and-bailey argument, but in principle it stands.

The peculairity of the triggered response to the term means that it's on to something regarding marxist self-identity.


 No.1689082

>>1689078

That would be Marxist Culture, not Cultural Marxism


 No.1689083

File: 2bc1bc84cc02a58⋯.png (914.17 KB, 800x1180, 40:59, turnip.png)

>>1689078

>The peculairity of the triggered response to the term means that it's on to something regarding marxist self-identity.

or maybe it's an annoying slur/meme based off of nazi propaganda and that posters particularly on leftypol are sick to death of refuting it, you dumb fucker


 No.1689087

File: 80658a3a9e777ba⋯.png (125.58 KB, 267x616, 267:616, stealth jihad.png)

>>1689066

>the spearhead of marxian praxis

>Neo-liberalism is like cultural marxism

How about you just admit that none of this has anything to do with marxism and is just the rational conclusion of capitalism's endless drive to commodify culture, atomise society and disrupt community?


 No.1689125

>>1689066

>cultural marxism

you know actual """cultural marxism""" was aimed at preventing culture from being commodified and destroyed by capitalism, yeah?


 No.1689126

>>1689082

Not if the implicit undercurrent of marxism is described by calling it cultural; hence cultural marxism.

>>1689083

All the other slurs slide of you like water slides of a raincoat, this one is more sticky, that points to it being made of something else than annoying slurs and memes.

>>1689087

If you had reading comprehension you would understand my comparison as showing an equivalence of the terms; this equivalence being that they are both purely accusatory and instrumentally vague terms that are used to tie any and every change in society as stemming from a political plot rooted in a few nefarious Jews.


 No.1689134

>>1689126

wow man you're really smart


 No.1689141

>>1689125

Which is pointless since marxism is capitalism, or rather the capitalism of marxism is marxist, capitalism a part, not a separate entity. Marxism seeks to complete it's capitalism, capitalism is correct in making the world a supermarket in which choice is god, the problem is that this is not fulfilled, there are still the oppressions that form roadblocks in the supermarket, communism takes these roadblocks away to fulfill the capitalist wish of pure consumption.


 No.1689148

File: c8e18ba2b1a5cbe⋯.gif (10.11 MB, 480x360, 4:3, book burning.gif)

>>1689141

>I don't know what capitalism or marxism mean: the post

It's actually impressive how much senseless gibberish you managed to fit in such a brief post.


 No.1689160

>>1689078

>there has to be a culture of marxism

How the fuck do you make a culture of a socioeconomic analysis?


 No.1689162

>>1689160

Forgot shitposting flag


 No.1689181

File: 2d81cd27f27b074⋯.jpg (42.92 KB, 500x710, 50:71, 923_big.jpg)

>‘I have taken from my party everything they thought they believed in. What keeps it together is success and power.’

- attributed to Tony Blair by Andrew Rawnsley in his Servants Of The People (2001 paperback edition), page 195.


 No.1689208

File: 77e8688aa74a1eb⋯.jpg (28.94 KB, 480x360, 4:3, 77e8688aa74a1eb3ab574bc04a….jpg)

>>1689148

I know, marxism means that you're right because that's what marxism means to you. It's this literalness that makes marxists incapable of meta-analysis.

>>1689160

By basing human activity around said socioeconomic analysis.


 No.1689222

>>1689078

there isn't. every country that followed/adopted marxist ideology pretty much stayed the same as they were before, it didn't change their culture.

Russia was a very imperialist country before 1917 and it stayed the same when it became USSR.


 No.1689255

File: edc192665f909f0⋯.png (193.43 KB, 741x203, 741:203, keep honking i'm shitposti….png)


 No.1689265

>>1689222

Look at what happened to China, it used to have a rich, deeply rooted high culture. After the cultural marxist revolution, all that was left were the basest desires of greed and power.


 No.1689757

>>1689265

Ok you're retard.


 No.1689771

>>1689208

>By basing human activity around said socioeconomic analysis.

Elaborate


 No.1689849


 No.1689888

oi lads. what's the official website for the communist party.


 No.1690169

File: 75f6e62055cd804⋯.png (37.68 KB, 937x207, 937:207, Communist Parties of Brita….PNG)

>>1689888

Which one?


 No.1690212

>>1690169

the most popular one


 No.1690217


 No.1690218

>>1690217

ta very much


 No.1690242

Tory lead in single figures, halved in a week.

https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/866031301031342081


 No.1690267

>>1689888

>>1690212

>>1690218

>joining a third party in a FPTP system when there is a TUSC backed opposition leader

hurrr durrr


 No.1690272

>>1689849

>I subscribe to a different approach of dealing with the country's problems

lol, what a wonderfful euphemism


 No.1690282

looks like the brits on 4pol are finally realising that the tories are bankrupt. They need a push to go to labour though, most of them are throwing their hands up saying they won't vote for anyone.


 No.1690289

File: b2aa1d7031e5ab1⋯.png (241.27 KB, 551x775, 551:775, 2017-05-21 16_26_01-United….png)

>>1688534

>>1688510

Well at least Corbyn can match Blair's vote share without the support of any major media news outlet.

It looks like lib dems have switched over to conservatives but it's really lib dems to labour with many labour voters switching to conservatives.


 No.1690290

>>1690282

Don't bother, Brits who follow /pol/'s line of thinking are almost always completely retarded and have confused Britain for America due to their shut in nature combined with the aut-right youtube presence.


 No.1690294

>>1689265

I've met Chinese students from over there who are glad they don't believe in those old spooks, they find western obsession with fung shui and taoism cringeworthy.

But they're same kind of rich kids (they were paying £15,000 in annual tuition fees alone) who thought living in the UK was no different to living in China.


 No.1690325

How come we didn't make any good memes or image macros to support Corbyn over May?


 No.1690495

>>1690325

Cause unlike Trump supporters, we would rather do things that actually help.


 No.1690497

File: 19715955f6b183f⋯.jpg (217.71 KB, 2000x1000, 2:1, jezza.jpg)

File: de6e7c92f3d3c01⋯.jpg (152.22 KB, 1200x750, 8:5, avengemejeremy.jpg)

File: fbba0fd23373020⋯.jpg (84.07 KB, 911x632, 911:632, Bevan.jpg)

File: 51ad1b7bfd54ad5⋯.jpg (276.23 KB, 1080x1440, 3:4, labourcosting.jpg)


 No.1690503

>>1690290

you just need to make them realise that any UKIP support who wants "control" should be voting Labour hands down.


 No.1690519

>>1690503

It would be far easier and effective to convince would be Tories to vote for UKIP, splitting their vote. But I want a small majority Tory government so they get blamed for all the fucky shit that's about to happen. Every day there are downplayed warning signs reported in the BBC that our economy is about to shit itself. I don't want a 2008 2: Electoral Boogaloo on Corbyn's watch.

Something in the ballpark of Con 40% - Lab 38% would be nice.


 No.1690523

>>1690495

pretty weird you'd say that considering Trump's full blown meme status helped him win the election


 No.1690645

lefties please meme this on facebook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=287Cu5me0Og


 No.1690650

>>1690523

Nice meme. He won in the electoral college.


 No.1690684

>>1673857

OH DAMN


 No.1690772

>>1679303

Fuck off. At least some of us are trying to support Corbyn unlike you nat-fucks.


 No.1690779

>>1673857

>>1690684

Holy fucking kek, Corbyn must have done this a few times. I was watching BBC news and he did it to her then too.


 No.1690782

>>1683693

If you candidate is backed by Campaign for Socialism, back them. It's the Clause Four Socialist group in Scotland that's linked to Momentum.

Most of the people in it are former Tankies from the 80s, but they're solidly pro-Corbyn.


 No.1690812

>>1690772

kezia dugdale literally implied people in the highlands and borders should vote tory or lib-dem to keep the SNP out, even though the SNP would be duty bound to support a corbyn administration.

some of you might be trying but as an institution (or accounting unit) Scottish Labour is nothing but a hindrance to socialism.


 No.1690820

>>1683693

I don't know shit about British politics, why would you support them instead of Labour?


 No.1690830

>>1690782

Do you have a list of these candidates?

>>1690820

SNP dominate Scotland, with Scottish Labour being pretty cunty a lot of the time.


 No.1691037

>>1677845

Explain how modern monetary theory doesn't realistically explain how the central bank function in a monetary economy. I don't even think you understand what modern monetary theory is.


 No.1691141

>>1690523

It didn't. I doubt any normal person voted for him based on internet memes and the people who care about those things are both in the minority and also didn't vote.

Also see >>1690650


 No.1691362

File: 30a160072e3c9f7⋯.jpg (310.46 KB, 2048x1620, 512:405, 18491797_1316818508395822_….jpg)

>>1690830

Here's the ones that are members (they're basically the Scottish version of Momentum).

Few other ones will be pro-Corbyn but not members.


 No.1691367

File: 1ca05500db74252⋯.jpg (157.16 KB, 2048x1083, 2048:1083, 18156043_289505651497933_4….jpg)

File: 62c8ff16059eaea⋯.jpg (196.24 KB, 1000x1187, 1000:1187, 18279005_292673154514516_6….jpg)

File: 1f3772c01c6c905⋯.jpg (161.13 KB, 2048x1152, 16:9, 18359436_294490704332761_5….jpg)


 No.1691396

>>1690497

The Second is basically what Pol were trying to do in France.


 No.1691462

Be real with me, comrades. what are the chances labour will be elected? i'm still seeing a lot of opinion polls in favour of the tories, or is this is just porky shilling?


 No.1691476

>>1691462

IMO they shouldn't win, but rather come in close and have the tories win and inevitably fail, causing the overton window to further turn to the radical left.


 No.1691503

Irish person supporting Jezza from the sidelines here and I swear reading this Tory campaign to whip up fearmongering about the IRA has me listening to rebel songs and wanting to blow shit up.

why do little englanders care about the IRA more than people in Ireland who were actually, routinely, affected by the troubles?


 No.1691508

>>1689849

The right-wing victim complex has been getting out of control recently. Any place where there is any semblance of left-wing view (mainly uni campuses, and internet youth forums) they cry and cry about people not respecting their opinion.

Left-wing economic views aren't at all respected in the media or our broader society, the whole world is a safe space for neoliberals and anywhere that isn't they whine like little bitches.


 No.1691514

>>1691503

Shit, just when you think the thieving scum couldn't get any lower, they pull shenanigans like that.

I am tempted. very tempted to suicide bomb a tory rally.


 No.1691527

File: d1638baa246fe03⋯.jpg (8.02 KB, 185x192, 185:192, 1452359969362.jpg)


 No.1691533

>>1691527

I don't even care. Hi there, GCHQ. I'm gonna bomb your shit.


 No.1691561

>>1691514

do it to a labour rally and say you're opposed to the 50% tax rate in your suicide note


 No.1691563


 No.1691568

>>1691561

what would that achieve?


 No.1691573

>>1691568

make tories look like cunts to neutrals


 No.1691577

Jesus christ

Sturgeon got BTFO by this nurse at the Scottish debates today, saying has to go to a foodbank

And then a bunch of SNP fanatics (even an SNP MP) start a witch hunt on twitter, suspecting she's a tory plant in the televised debate audience (which turned out to be false, although strangely the social media trolls did discover she earns £22k, sends kids to private school and goes on expensive holidays)

thank fuck the Tories can't use this shitshow to their advantage, since they're worse on NHS

THE ABSOLUTE STATE


 No.1691606

>>1691577

tbf it's rather interesting that she noted the BBC invited her back because she never got to ask about it earlier when she was on question time or something.

despite my usual proclivity for conspiracies, i'm going to suspect it's because the BBC wanted some cheap television attention rather than because they know who their paymasters are. Well, they know their paymasters are also the public since they're expected to compete with Sky and ITV and whatever, but that's not the point, you know what I mean.


 No.1691613

>>1691606

since i left it out in a fit of being a retard: the reason it's interesting is obviously because like most of the debate, it was completely irrelevant to the election at hand, discussing devolved issues which we've just come out of an election over.

unhighlight of the night goes to the suggestion sturgeon could lose her seat in this election. to think there was a day they pretended scots had a nuanced understanding of politics on the basis of "SNP at Holyrood, Labour at Westminster"…


 No.1691614

File: 1e60faeb991b697⋯.png (46.33 KB, 575x362, 575:362, ClipboardImage.png)

Is it happening?


 No.1691620

>>1691614

Strong home run for Jezza and it could be. Labour strategists need to earn their money in the next two and a half weeks. A shame there's no debate, because Corbyn would get a huge bump from that after inevitably outclassing May,


 No.1691626

>>1691620

the cons know they'll get BTFO in a debate and that's why they're avoiding it. I like in a tory stronghold and i'm pretty sure this entire county might be a swing region.


 No.1691633

anyone else worried that if somehow Labour wins they'll be left with dealing with a hard brexit and the inevitable shitstorm which will kill their popularity?


 No.1691637

>>1691633

i'm pretty sure they'll at least try to soften it


 No.1691639

>>1691633

Very much. The British are not a smart bunch.


 No.1691642

File: 9835a7fcce6abc5⋯.jpg (114.9 KB, 1200x1044, 100:87, 1.jpg)

File: bac895d7e76e19b⋯.jpg (87.66 KB, 1200x1044, 100:87, 2.jpg)


 No.1691649

>>1691637

a blow is still a blow even if it's softened

frankly the best scenario I can think of is tories winning by a small margin, getting the blame for all the problems and corbyn & co dragging them through the mud every step of the way

and then a labour win in 2022

and melenchon as well, maybe also podemos getting into government, so there's a kind of socialist-ish community in europe instead of the neoliberal status quo

but what I believe will happen is the knives will come out as soon as the election is over and the blairites will start fucking with him again


 No.1691653

what is wrong with /r/labouruk

you know that phrase "if you don't stand for something you;ll fall for anything"? well i used to believe it until visiting that sub. centrist shits dont stand for anything except being against everything corbyn does


 No.1691654

>>1691649

my thoughts are that if Corbyn doesn't win this, labour will go back to being a blairite circlejerk


 No.1691659

File: d73ff89287e9b32⋯.webm (3.9 MB, 400x300, 4:3, 1489954222668.webm)


 No.1691661

>>1691642

Wow, people are stupid


 No.1691662

>>1691654

yes, the left is between a rock and a har dplace

they either win and inherit a world of shit

or lose and get shanked by the blairites


 No.1691663

>>1691649

Right now, the two most recent polls from YouGov and Survation suggest to me that the Tories would only get a majority of 36

Sure, your scenario sounds nice but would a small Tory majority be more or less conducive to Scottish independence? That's gotta be a vital part of your european progressive fightback too


 No.1691668


 No.1691670

>>1691662

Best case scenario is to lose, but lose by 2-3%, barely enough to complain about Blairites who sabotaged the election.


 No.1691680

>>1691659

>Tfw you've gone from "The SDP were cool" naivite to unironically agreeing with "one of the advantages of extremism is that it makes you feel good" and wishing the left could make an alliance with the right on the basis of "…and moderates" even though "after hitler our turn" didn't turn out well the first time, simply out of a sense of despair and having nothing to lose.

still like Shirley Williams though.

>>1691668

It seems probable the entire world is. Retail slowdown in the US, Cassandra Keen saying Australian housing's going to go, and apparently George Osbourne's changes to mortgage taxes or something has fucked the Buy-To-Let sector. (And on that note there are a huge number of unsecured interest only mortgages in the UK. Fun stuff: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B24wHuyDETj3dzNzS1E5V1lfNkU/view )


 No.1691681

File: fa64e58b09330d2⋯.mp4 (3.53 MB, 400x224, 25:14, 18611349_1898552453735086_….mp4)

Corbyn is rly trying to get the youth to vote


 No.1691687

>>1691668

You know what, bring it on. Maybe a few eyes will be opened that neolib status quo will be the death of us


 No.1691710

File: dcd1c01d0913226⋯.jpg (82.87 KB, 466x580, 233:290, revolution_calling.jpg)

>>1691681

HE'S ACTUALLY DOING IT THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN


 No.1691713

File: e082ec6bb23208e⋯.jpg (88.54 KB, 566x800, 283:400, flat,800x800,075,f.u1.jpg)

File: dad3c9277aeab9e⋯.jpg (234.72 KB, 640x360, 16:9, mcdonnellarmed.jpg)

Post rare McDonnells lads


 No.1691732

>>1691681

i love the guy but he's such an awful speaker lmao


 No.1691745

>>1691732

May is not much better TBH


 No.1691751

>>1691745

I agree but people I speak to seem to actually genuinely believe she's strong and stable lel


 No.1691752

>>1691732

I disagree. Then again, my opinions are usually quite far from typical.


 No.1691759

File: 833738801933725⋯.png (505.5 KB, 673x834, 673:834, ClipboardImage.png)

>>1691751

so did he


 No.1691760

>>1691732

Eh, I partially see it but he comes across all-right. To a degree I think it benefits him to not have the stupid voice coaching style that you usually see. (I mean could you imagine Tony Blair not looking like a total twat speaking there? Ignore Iraq, Ignore Tory-Lite and just imagine his voice with the insistent. punctuation. with ridiculous. emphasis. education education, education, economic activity is best left to the. private sector. with. market forces. allowed to operate…)

>>1691745

May unironically has autism or something. There are literal robots (in Japan, probably.) that come across as more human than May. It's unsettling. Actually that's why she disturbs me so much. She is the uncanny valley incarnate. Too human to be a lizard, too lizard to be human.


 No.1691788

>>1691659

>paranoid schitzoid

bit ableist tbh


 No.1691802

>>1691732

I think they like him for how uncharismatic his speeches are tbh. Makes him seem more down to earth


 No.1691804

>>1691681

LONG LIVE COMRADE COMMISSAR CORBYN!


 No.1691805

Why is the British national thread cyclical, but the other national threads not? (Dutch and German)


 No.1691808

>>1691805

Imperialism


 No.1691812

>>1691805

Because 🍀🍀🍀they🍀🍀🍀 want to quarantine all the Anglos in one thread.


 No.1691815

>>1691812

Scheiß Inselaffen


 No.1691817

>>1691805

This is primarily an anglophone board, so there's more Brits here. Also us Americans retain a perverse inferiority complex toward the UK, so we're more interested in their politics than other countries'.


 No.1691829

File: 82c8e64e43b989a⋯.jpg (69.32 KB, 634x423, 634:423, 368A36E200000578-3705063-i….jpg)

what does brit think of aaron bastani / novara media?


 No.1691832

How likely is a second Scottish independence referendum, Brits?


 No.1691840

>>1691832

At the moment everyone is being very circumspect as to whether they'd outright Catalonia Scotland (i.e. ignore that the Scottish parliament has already voted in favour of having one, but still officially needs the power transferred from London to hold a "binding*" one. Theoretically they could hold a non-binding one but it'd be a glorified opinion poll.)

*technically we don't have binding referendums because parliament is held above everything, but they've held to the rules voluntarily every time thusfar.

So it's hard to say between "reasonably possible", it depends a lot on how things slide. (They either slide towards "okay, now it's the time", or towards "No we've been very clear on this, people don't really want one…")


 No.1691845

>>1691832

50/50 under corbyn, 100% impossible under may, but i doubt the scots really want it as it would mean punishing austerity to meet the entry requirements for the euro, or an equally punishing period to set up their own currency which would also mean about 25 years of economic hardship


 No.1691846

>>1691840

>tfw you'll never travel up north to fight for the scottish revolution

feels pretty bad, lads. i'm not that bad of an englishman


 No.1691866

>>1691840

Brexit hangs by the same thread, so they don't have much of a choice in that regard. And if remoaners get their way for a second poll, the gentlemans' agreement regarding "nonbinding" polls might crack apart, causing actual binding referenda to happen.


 No.1691874

>>1691866

>remoaners

Ebin meme.


 No.1691880

It's incredible that the Tories' shameless power grab might backfire, and all they had to do was open their mouths to lose support.

>>1690497

>corporate tax cuts of 19.4b

Jesus Christ, that's obscene. It's like the right doesn't even remember the bit about "governing" and think they got a ticket to take everything that isn't nailed down.

>>1691829

I'm mirin'. That's the physique I want to have and can't get.


 No.1691897

>>1691874

I realize it gives the right-wing oxygen (needlessly, just because no significant leftist political force has openly endorsed it), but the EU has to be put out of its misery before it can drag Europe down with it.

Everything potentially good about the EU was overtaken by hardcore laissez-faire neolib ideologues during the 2000s. Brexit, and the potential for Frexit next election (not just LePen, even Jean-Luc holds them at arms length) are the last chance for the EU to either be reformed into something useful, or be destroyed and replaced by something better.


 No.1691909

>>1691897

I actually support Brexit if it happens under a leftist government, but the idea that opposition to the government's current strategy is "moaning" is simultaneously laughable and slightly disgusting.


 No.1691918

>>1691897

neoliberalism will die, it's just a matter of time. it's becoming less and less credible by the day.


 No.1691922

File: 079a32c479c210a⋯.jpg (38.07 KB, 756x560, 27:20, centrism.jpg)

>>1691909

Most of those people sincerely think the EU in its current state is defensible, they're 100% status quo "centrists" in favor of austerity budgets, deregulation, and open borders under New Labour. They have no actual opinions on policy, and care only about "stability".

Moaning is the sum total of their objection on any political subject.


 No.1691927

need a meme of "who would you vote for, with Corbyn and May as Dumbledore and Umbridge


 No.1691931

File: 769ce7077ef223e⋯.jpg (66.28 KB, 634x547, 634:547, 37C117C700000578-0-image-a….jpg)

>>1691927

>Corbyn …as Dumbledore

[blairite screeching]


 No.1691933

>>1691922

But… how can you have deregulation and austirity leading to "stability"???


 No.1691939

>>1691933

By creating "confidence" in the "Markets"


 No.1691940

>>1691922

sounds like oh dearism

>>1691933

that's what centrists actually believe, insofar as they believe anything


 No.1691953

>>1691922

Oh, and one other thing that this attitude cultivates: They blame every one of the Tory manifesto's "new" policies on Brexit, pretending that Brexit negotiations imbued the Tories with magical unilateral legislative power, ignoring that (like any international treaty) all of it still has to go through the same channels as it would without Brexit. And the Tories are all to happy to play along with this delusion, "justifying" the complete nonparticipation of Labour/Progressive/SNP in negotiations.

>>1691933

Because government is perpetually teetering on the brink of collapse and bankruptcy, whereas the free market is of inherently as stable as the Rock of Gibraltar. That's just human nature.


 No.1691954

>>1691939

nothing pisses me off like this religious bullshit.

at first i thought "oh, actually the religious analogy is great! it's dismissive, but basically accurate", now i'm just sitting here screaming: jesus christ, they've actually done it, they've actually made a god out of the abstract motions of a bunch of jumped up gamblers. we have to behave ourselves because they're crazy and we don't know what we're doing.

it's not fun. at least prayer was personalised, at least I could pray to god for the famine to end. Neoliberalism won't even let the individual have that.


 No.1691955

>>1691939

I would accept that as accelerationism… if I didn't know it will lead to worse days for me and fascism for Europa…


 No.1691958

>>1691922

All humans are morons, and going by your definition almost everyone who complains about anything is just moaning.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. Political debate is entirely pointless. The future will happen when it happens, and it will probably be shit regardless of what any of us do. Suicide is probably the most sensible policy decision.


 No.1691961

>>1691955

>he thinks he can avoid fascist dystopia

If you're smart/lucky enough you should become porky while you still can.

If not, start stockpiling lube.


 No.1691992

File: 40fa259e1425e52⋯.jpg (449.07 KB, 985x394, 5:2, corbynmaydumbledoreumbridg….jpg)


 No.1691998

>>1691961

>He thinks a life sold out as porky or slave is better than death fighting


 No.1692001

File: 5152d99eb0c00da⋯.gif (1000.87 KB, 640x480, 4:3, 515.gif)

>>1691992

Someone retwat this to Rowling


 No.1692074


 No.1692483

File: 29ae8eb7cba0c15⋯.png (105.42 KB, 638x567, 638:567, ClipboardImage.png)

i-is it really happening?

btw, last day to register to vote. tell your friends.


 No.1692519

>>1692483

I'm not optimistic yet but I don't think he's going to do as bad as initially thought.


 No.1692546

File: 53fad2a648f6463⋯.jpeg (108.37 KB, 610x610, 1:1, Favim.com-karma-life-7192….jpeg)

>>1692483

>Porky gets "death panels" thrown back in their stupid face


 No.1692620

Huge U-Turn on the social care proposals just annouced by Theresa May.

They're apparently going to have a cap so the amount you have to pay towards social care is restricted. However, she failed to mention what this cap might be.

In any case, it's a massive climbdown and means that she'll get torn apart in the press for the next couple of days at least.

It seems to me that the Tories are either purposefully trying to lose the election or really are just that incompetent that they can blow a 20 point poll lead in the space of a few weeks.


 No.1692667

>>1692620

Tories officially on the back foot, Corbyn coming in with the jabs. This is turning out so much better than I thought


 No.1692731

>>1692620

And when people realise a cap doesn't really mean much they will still be pissed off. All the tory papers are going to have to u turn too and that might get a few people at least annoyed by may.


 No.1692742

>>1692731

Yup. This is the best bit really.

This "u-turn" has all of the publicity of a u-turn but none of the benefits a proper u-turn would have brought.

Just a matter of time until the house of cards comes falling down.


 No.1692748

>>1692742

not looking too strong and stable right now is she?


 No.1692761

UK media's obsession with Jeremy Corbyn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR-OVN6BR7Y


 No.1692773

>>1692483

>boomers start jumping ship ONLY when they start facing the axe

Typical.


 No.1692775

File: de383487db91323⋯.jpg (15.51 KB, 397x294, 397:294, fking help me.jpg)

>>1692483

>mfw I can't register to vote because I haven't been issued my National Insurance number.


 No.1692826

>>1692775

how can you be 18 and not have an NI number?


 No.1692827

>>1692826

ignore shitposting flag


 No.1692835

>>1692826

Not him but I was just never sent one for some reason.


 No.1692838

File: 2f06b04a3ae6261⋯.png (120.16 KB, 865x491, 865:491, documentary evidence nonse….PNG)

>>1692835

>>1692826

I also just received this 3 fucking days after I applied to vote


 No.1692839

>>1692773

it's a shame the generation younger than them aren't as uncucked


 No.1692841

>>1692838

stfu and get down the town hall lad


 No.1692847

>>1692826

I don't live in the UK but I am eligible to register through my parents.


 No.1692853

>>1692839

Don't worry, you'll be able to form big boy thoughts when you, too, are older.


 No.1692856

This article is pretty funny

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/theresa-may-conservative-manifesto-jeremy-corbyn-taxation-winter-fuel-allowance-a7743311.html

>Labour’s proposed increase starts at income earned above £80,000 a year, so some people might say, “I don’t earn anywhere near that, so it won’t apply to me.” But the simple answer to that is, “Yes you do. Don’t be conned by Labour’s communist lies, you earn £600,000 a year as a commodities broker.”


 No.1692883

>>1692853

I can't believe that simple point eluded you. Never mind.


 No.1692888

>>1692883

No, I understood it. It was written with the elegance of a stuttering Romanian at a customs raid.


 No.1692890

>>1692888

Oh I'm sorry, is this thread where we enter our dissertations for our politics degrees?


 No.1692893

>>1692856

based mark steel


 No.1692894

>>1692890

Calm down reddit.


 No.1692895

>>1692890

wait? This isn't a PolSci uni course?


 No.1692906

>>1692775

you can email your local council return officer with pictures of your passport I have a friend with no NI number and thats what he had to do


 No.1692922

File: 1f1d066d5ad102d⋯.jpg (696.15 KB, 1053x1070, 1053:1070, 1370481018477.jpg)

>>1692894

So just to be clear I made my point, you apparently understood it perfectly, acted like a smart arse for no apparent reason, and because I didn't offer to suck your dick in gratitude you decided I'm from reddit?

Great contribution anon.


 No.1692929

>>1692922

Yes. The only adjustments I'd make to it was the original point was poorly worded and not particularly inspiring or witty, and I decided your final retort was sassy and passive aggressive enough to be reddit tier.


 No.1692939

>>1692929

omfg piss off dickhead


 No.1692949

File: 49de76b16569c8e⋯.jpg (198.44 KB, 850x950, 17:19, jeremy corbyn for leader.jpg)

>>1586156

https://twitter.com/SirBasilBrush

How do we stop this smug Tory cunt?


 No.1692953

File: 158d564351c75c2⋯.png (34.71 KB, 393x430, 393:430, 1368370593300.png)


 No.1692959

File: 6e04068e6061256⋯.png (136.36 KB, 355x297, 355:297, picture-16.png)

>>1673741

>Everything since the start of time has been one long mistake.

I prefer to call it "the learning process"


 No.1692976

File: 340f45874ed49fb⋯.jpg (92.17 KB, 651x580, 651:580, Capture.JPG)

habbenings


 No.1692977

Reminder:

If you live in Scotland and vote Labour, you deserve to be shot and hung.


 No.1692981

>>1692977

Not only does it increase the number of seats that the Tories could win due to vote-splitting, it also gives Westminster an excuse to block another Scottish referendum.

Also the SNP would be far more reliable parliamentary allies of Corbyn than a Scottish Labour branch full of blairites, careerists and right wing opportunists.


 No.1692994

>>1692959

But without any learning.

A novel approach, human ingenuity at it's finest.


 No.1693003

>>1692976

is it happening?


 No.1693005

>>1692977

>>1692981

Reminder that Nationalism is the antithesis of Socialism.

Solidarity folks.


 No.1693010

>>1693003

polls don't mean shit unless you turn out to vote on the day, it's probably a globalist ruse to make us complacent and let the tories in again.


 No.1693024

File: 5ef25d0503ce9ed⋯.jpg (14.95 KB, 564x115, 564:115, Capture.JPG)

>>1692976

Had to screencap this one I was so impressed.


 No.1693032


 No.1693045

>>1693032

I-I'm not out of touch.


 No.1693050

can anyone tell me how the tories are doing in the meme wars on twitter and normiebook?


 No.1693094

File: a40d816857d7c83⋯.jpg (9.71 KB, 255x153, 5:3, Laughing Corbyn.jpg)

>>1674189

19/17 comr8


 No.1693148

>>1693050

decimated

Labour has a social media stranglehold


 No.1693209

>>1693050

Corbyn's all over it, cause of the generational gap. Youth are pro-Labour.

Numbers of under 25s registering to vote is promising; today's the deadline.


 No.1693281

>>1691653

go on /r/labour instead


 No.1693302

So the tories have paid ads on "Dementia tax"

Does anyone already have a bot written which could spam such a thing?


 No.1693325

File: 5d39f7c03d52f41⋯.jpg (41.51 KB, 720x540, 4:3, corbyn lenin portrait.jpg)

Soon.


 No.1693328

>>1693209

>>1693148

good to hear, just make sure to get everyone you know to vote.

a forum i use is an irritatingly right wing echo chamber, i cbf dealing with the mental gymnastics going on there right now.


 No.1693353

don't get complacent lads and lasses


 No.1693442

File: e45092a659f1938⋯.png (137.91 KB, 610x599, 610:599, ClipboardImage.png)

BREAKING MAY BLOCKED CORBYN ON PORKYBOOK


 No.1693465

Has anyone seen the clips from the Andrew Neil May interview. She is so fucking uncharismatic every second she is on the air is going to loose Tory votes. I have never seen a politicians stick to a pre planned script like that ever. In David Cameron was better than this


 No.1693468

Just the way she says "Andrew" is sickening fucking hell this she is awful


 No.1693483

File: 03a7792da9bc9c1⋯.jpg (209.52 KB, 672x886, 336:443, MAY.jpg)

say it with me now:

mummy

may


 No.1693491

>>1693005

>Reminder that Nationalism is the antithesis of Socialism.

>Solidarity folks.

>Make sure to vote for clinton in solidarity with sanders


 No.1693497

>>1677835

you just kinda live in this weird inertia generated by all the normal shit you do


 No.1693502

File: ca12dbbaa43e65d⋯.jpg (60.82 KB, 709x959, 709:959, 18557200_10154624176511305….jpg)

I just saw this on normiebook, up your game /leftypol/


 No.1693516

>>1693502

Have not made a single meme lads for this election might do so


 No.1693522

File: 88cf1748e5f9e7c⋯.png (72.51 KB, 585x1024, 585:1024, Emblem_of_the_League_of_Em….png)

>>1693005

This is a meme position used to mask British nationalism, consciously or not. Why does solidarity always stop at the English channel? Why can a true internationalist not operate over even a comparatively open border like that with Ireland?

(As noted in "The end of british politics?")

>By the late 19th century, the providential commitment was invested in the mission of Empire. As the domestic social and cultural fabric changed, and the geopolitical environment was transformed, new ways of imagining the British mission were cultivated. The years during and immediately after the First World War were crucial. The working class, especially the working class of Scotland, was fused into the state by the experience of war. The Labour Movement, which before the war had been mildly separatist, was converted to its own version of British ‘Unionism’ – principally by the promise of using the power of the central British state to create a regime of British social citizenship. This promise was realised in the post-war settlement after 1945. Now new fantasies (or if you prefer fresh imaginings) were spun around the providential people: Britain as the pioneer of the welfare state; Westminster as the mother of Parliaments; Britain as the original home of democracy; the Commonwealth as the successor to a dead Empire. To recall Renan again: a nation is indeed a community united by common error with regard to its origins.

> But the post-war settlement was not just a matter of constructing an imaginary past. It involved important policy commitments in the here and now. It meant a system of social citizenship which redefined what it meant domestically to be British. It meant a set of economic theories which gave the central British state responsibility for steering the whole economy. It meant new international alliances which readapted the imperial mission to the world of NATO and the Cold War, and which committed the state to a uniquely high level of military spending. The domestic props of this reimagined Britain collapsed in the 1970s; the international components had to be refashioned after the collapse of the Soviet bloc in 1989. Reimagining the British state has since then been the central task of policy makers, especially of policy makers at the metropolitan centre. Chapter 4 describes this: the great burst of innovation which encompasses the years of Thatcherite triumphalism and New Labour adaptation. The years after 1979 saw a flowering of policy creativity which refashioned the shape of the state and offered new visions of its domestic and international purposes. All this came to a dead end in the second decade of the 21st century. It was destroyed by a great contradiction in domestic policy: the state simultaneously tried to reimagine Britain but pursued economic policies which contributed to communal dissolution.

Britain isn't special. The sooner it dies and is forced to recognise this the better. This fucking chauvinism towards the rest of the world, even among the presumable left, is both laughable from a post-imperial King Laius state and remarkably tedious. From Shetland to Cornwall you matter, after that - well, you're a bit weird aren't you. We'll just watch from afar…


 No.1693543

>>1679348

NEC expels members for mean comments on twitter


 No.1693546

>>1693543

The NEC are fucking faggots who cucked us out of deselecting the Blairites.


 No.1693640

File: 5527b90768b695e⋯.png (18.8 KB, 1071x167, 1071:167, tankie theresa.png)


 No.1693652

Have any of you lot seen the interviews daily politics is doing with the smaller parties? There's something quite appealing about hearing unapologetic marxist orthodoxy on the beeb.

Workers Revolutionary Party (my personal favourite)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0538vyf

Alliance for Green Socialism

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0535zff

Socialist Party of Great Britain

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p052qkp1


 No.1693672

File: fd6a377dafefe49⋯.png (43.09 KB, 627x272, 627:272, kezia tactical.png)

Reminder that she's not talking about tactical voting to keep the tories out.


 No.1693675

Describe Tories with one word.


 No.1693691

>>1693675

pernicious


 No.1693692

>>1693675

parasites


 No.1693699


 No.1693709

File: 652808173d5b0d0⋯.jpg (407.05 KB, 897x1200, 299:400, alliancerd.jpg)

idea: just as the upcoming recession hits let the SNP hand power to this coalition of hilarity via green abstention, then fuck with it from the sidelines (since green+SNP still has a majority) and blame them for all the declines in living standards, funding, etc, then vote the coalition of fucking kek out of power in time for the next election, leaving all 3 parties to campaign with that huge stain on their record.

won't happen but would be kekworthy.


 No.1693710

>>1693675

<Vermin


 No.1693713

>>1693699

it just shows how critically out of touch these people are.


 No.1693716

>>1693699

What next, "kill the poor"?


 No.1693724

>>1693716

>tfw you'd unironically prefer it if they just came out and said they wanted to kill the poor and the disabled

the pretence of caring, of being the parental figure who goes "I know you don't want to work because you're paralysed from the neck down/live in a town where the sole source of employment is the job-centre, but this is for your own good…" annoys me more than the callousness.


 No.1693739

>>1693716

that would be an act of mercy at this point.

can't have that old chap, make the blighters sweat a little first eh?


 No.1693741

>>1693699

>restructures economy deliberately to keep 10%~ of people unemployed

>heh just get a job bozo


 No.1693743


 No.1693745

>>1693699

I wouldn't be surprised if they want to lose so that Labour have to deal with the brexit shit and they can sweep the election next time.


 No.1693761

>>1693675

Socialists


 No.1693820

>>1693675

Bourgeois


 No.1693832


 No.1693852

https://twitter.com/Ed_Miliband/status/866746238435282944

anyone else have a soft spot for ed despite him not being anywhere near /our guy/ material? seems like a decent guy


 No.1693854

>>1693832

Kek, those Tories. A Tory who is voting Labour says "Because the only justification for voting conservative is either you're rich and want to get richer or you think you're too good to vote labour, neither of which are very popular opinions" and they all immediately jump down his neck calling him a dole scrounger.


 No.1693863

>>1691845

tfw you will never move to Scotland and wander through the highlands with your Sheltie :(


 No.1693952

>>1693699

literal scum


 No.1694330

File: af234e33d80a4fd⋯.jpg (37.56 KB, 308x446, 154:223, erection.jpg)


 No.1694351

>>1693709

On the one hand, your line of thought makes perfect sense. On the other, every defeat for the SNP also turns into a defeat for independence.


 No.1694374

File: 4edab3f44f17b1e⋯.jpg (2.76 MB, 2494x3349, 2494:3349, Liberal vs Tory.jpg)

daily reminder to vote LIBERAL for our children.


 No.1694394

File: 7b219a51eb98d67⋯.jpg (223.45 KB, 1200x802, 600:401, DAZIYv8XUAAPGdx.jpg)

lul


 No.1694510

>>1693724

A lot of people forget that most of these people don't want believe themselves evil. They have to convince themselves either that the people they're harming deserve to suffer and die, or that causing them to suffer and die is actually helping them. They're lying to themselves just as much as they're lying to the British people.


 No.1694554

>>1694510

pretty much

coming face to face with the fact that your actions, your beliefs, hurt people and cause misery must be a huge shock so people do what people always do when faced with such experiences - rationalize them away


 No.1694674

>Corbyn surging in the polls

>Looks like he might actually have a chance to win

>Suddenly Manchester gets bombed

Hmm


 No.1694695

File: 6d19e1b06e97848⋯.mp4 (166.12 KB, 480x356, 120:89, 48UoqdKrAjhXG.mp4)

>>1694674

I wonder who could be behind this


 No.1694805

File: 0e4ad7d252b8b39⋯.png (1.21 MB, 680x901, 40:53, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.1694850

File: 5b026143a56f2ea⋯.jpg (116.85 KB, 778x680, 389:340, stopped caring.jpg)

File: 0ead4be9e57afad⋯.jpg (85.99 KB, 720x540, 4:3, get in loser we're saving ….jpg)

love-a-lot bear is socdem


 No.1694954

>>1694850

I find it weird how he tries to be more public lately, seemingly not realizing that he is perhaps the single most hated person in Britain.


 No.1695089

>>1694674

Fuck is this what being /pol/ feels like?


 No.1695135

>>1694674

Suddenly ISIS


 No.1695314

>>1694374

You know, the Soviets really were way ahead on the propaganda game than the entire rest of the world for a ong time.


 No.1695340

File: d6fc30ace9c38ae⋯.jpg (162.71 KB, 899x1200, 899:1200, Go_001.jpg)

File: 12500ca8a0b3d4b⋯.jpg (41.32 KB, 425x593, 425:593, peace045.jpg)

File: 4f23b3b76f32ca3⋯.jpg (39.14 KB, 425x603, 425:603, peace107.jpg)

File: 202f0ebc162f489⋯.jpg (27.55 KB, 425x613, 425:613, peace108.jpg)

File: 16bb9ec86bdffb6⋯.jpg (70.64 KB, 425x610, 85:122, peace070.jpg)

>>1695314

soviet propaganda is outright art

i forget the wording but i can give the gist

"Washington style peace"

"neutron bombs leave valuable property intact"

"evolution?"


 No.1695350

File: 6acf4885854a726⋯.png (57.23 KB, 119x176, 119:176, corb.png)


 No.1695355

>>1695340

>that last pic

fuck me


 No.1695372

>>1695355

We're fucking doomed


 No.1695382

>>1695089

Reminder that Operation Gladio was real.


 No.1695393

>>1695340

>"neutron bombs leave valuable property intact"

But there's nothing left in the poster…


 No.1695414

File: 408a616f4869d22⋯.gif (14.15 KB, 500x490, 50:49, 408a616f4869d2275c02f1b271….gif)

>>1693709

That's the kind of shit Porky would say.

>>1694330

You know, considering the aut-right's losing streak after Trump, Corbyn really has it in the bag.


 No.1695546

>>1695393

the gold frame for a globe remains while the globe itself is gone. the "valuable" material part is retained.


 No.1695928

Could there be a spike in UKIP support now that could eat into tory polls and lead Corbs to victory?


 No.1695962

>>1695928

Seeing as it was in the north, it could go the other way. Labour voters switching to UKIP.


 No.1695988

File: 9b92eeea46639df⋯.png (2.27 KB, 209x215, 209:215, 1340507656726.png)

You could hear the cheers come from Conservative party HQ when they got news of this terrorist attack.

Seriously

>5 hours before

>May engages in possibly the most catastrophic braindead interview in the history of UK politics, even worse than Diane Abbott tier.

>Entire media goes into meltdown, even the Daily Mail had to close all their articles about it because it looked so bad

>Suddenly terrorist attack

>May's interview completely buried.

>"Suspends campaign" so she doesn't have to face the press.


 No.1695990

>>1695928

Didn't every earlier poll show UKIP completely obliterated now that the Tories stumbled into executing the centrepiece of the UKIP platform?


 No.1695991

>>1695962

The general region of the north you're talking about is the last major red stronghold in the UK.


 No.1696025

>>1695988

>You could hear the cheers come from Conservative party HQ when they got news of this terrorist attack.

Wouldn't fucking surprise me


 No.1696042

>>1695988

Reminds me of the Hungarian referendum on immigration.

>conservative ruling party (Fidesz) knew that not enough people would show up

>chance of another failed right-wing referendum

>they had to arouse interest

>every day 3-4 bomb alerts in the capital city

>"suspicious bags" left on benches, etc.

>finally someone actually bombs a street corner

>no casualties

>referendum happens

>not enough people show, it's invalid

>people got acclimatized to all the fake bomb alerts

>bomber turns out to be a native dude with mental issues


 No.1696077

>>1693675

Perfidious


 No.1696102

Seriously hoping it wasn't a muslim.


 No.1696115


 No.1696116

>>1696102

A man exploded, of course he was Muslim.


 No.1696125

Am I dead inside or some shit. I'm mostly annoyed that I have to listen to people talk about this boring shit all day.


 No.1696128

>>1696125

im the opposite, I usually jump on /pol/ when shit like this happens and watch the nonsense. But, maybe because I lived in MCR for 5 years, today I just feel quite sad about the whole thing. Bombing children man, is this the new normal?


 No.1696134

>>1696125

I'm more annoyed at all the handwringing about them not having our impeccable moral standards when it comes to indiscriminate bombing campaign.


 No.1696144

>>1696128

I think I'm just a very unemotional person about this kinda thing. I don't really know tbqh.

>>1696134

Maybe it's something like this. People die everyday, it doesn't really make a difference in my mind if they were down the road or across the world, I didn't know them any better. Might just be the depression meme though. |


 No.1696190

>>1696025

This will almost certainly good them a boost….. we can always hope it was some sort of neo nazi but I really doubt that


 No.1696198

File: e04a8aa56e8cb68⋯.png (70.6 KB, 605x500, 121:100, Global-Death-Toll-of-Diffe….png)

File: 13d8bdf0fb3b492⋯.jpg (94.32 KB, 960x320, 3:1, death-and-dollars.jpg)

>>1696134

IMHO there is a large moral and practical difference between ‘’’’’allowing’’’’’ evil through ignorance/incompetence/indifference, versus ‘’’’’doing’’’’’ evil through willful approval/action. Equating the incidental death of innocent bystanders, to the intentional priority targeting of innocents, is absolutely reprehensible.

That said, my objection to this inanity is that terrorism is so far down the list of priorities, it's utterly dwarfed by the opportunity cost of all the hoo-rah we give it (not to mention that terrorism is primarily a symptom of other problems, so direct countermeasures are largely an inefficient use of resources against it).


 No.1696199

File: aaff2aefed3f61c⋯.png (30.73 KB, 180x148, 45:37, 1238454236629.png)

>>1696144

>People die everyday, it doesn't really make a difference in my mind if they were down the road or across the world, I didn't know them any better

I feel you. For pretty much my entire life the US has been at war with some tiny country or another, bombing indiscriminately and not giving a single shit about it. Just a year or two ago, the US flattened a Doctors Without Borders hospital in Afghanistan and absolutely nothing was done about it. So why should I muster a single fuck just because some Westerners get added to the body count?


 No.1696201

>>1696198

>Equating the incidental death of innocent bystanders, to the intentional priority targeting of innocents, is absolutely reprehensible.

You are rapidly approaching memeball territory considering how many schools and hospitals we bomb every year.


 No.1696218

File: 89f5f4dbdf0e126⋯.jpg (68.38 KB, 810x539, 810:539, May - I AM A THREAT.jpg)

I mean, they aren't wrong.


 No.1696221

Just realised the tories are gonna use this to push for even higher surveillance. Who's ready to get fucked in the name of "safety"?

>>1696199

Glad I'm not alone then. People will probably think you're a nutter if you say this though which is bizarre. I've just kept my mouth shut about it today so I don't piss off any co-workers.


 No.1696226

File: 48cbb6c9ec57931⋯.gif (654.25 KB, 245x245, 1:1, kek.gif)


 No.1696229

>>1696201

Compare the famines and (variously denied or covered up) genocides of modern nations, to the cheerfully acknowledged extermination campaigns of the colonial and pre-modern eras.

One of them is seen as a moral failing by its perpetrators and/or those who support them, and can be eliminated through simple practical reform. The other is seen as a core policy or even moral imperative, and is infinitely harder to overturn.

Even ignoring the massive gulf of depravity, that is a substantial practical difference.


 No.1696230

So what is exactly wrong with /r/ukpolitics?


 No.1696231

>>1696230

It's a politics subreddit, of which there are no good ones?


 No.1696249

>>1696229

Yeah you've convinced me, if they want to play they should launch a military campaign against us and only bomb our civilians when a chunk of their multi-billion dollar arsenal accidentally hits a civilian target. Intent is very important to consider when you're killing hundreds of thousands of people.


 No.1696268

>>1696249

Setting aside the political viability of terrorism as a whole for its purported goals, the effectiveness of targeting innocents is highly debatable:

http://exiledonline.com/wn-38-ira-vs-al-qaeda-i-was-wrong/


 No.1696278

>>1689141

what in tarnation


 No.1696457

File: 56df7caf236e1e5⋯.webm (625.83 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, dont.webm)


 No.1696469

what are the odds he was ira


 No.1696476

>>1696469

source?


 No.1696510

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3625746/the-harm-done-by-jeremy-corbyn-and-john-mcdonnell-sucking-up-to-the-ira/

do they not break election media rules with this shit. This is a new low for the sun


 No.1696558

>>1696457

>tts software with a posh bong accent

Truly we live in marvelous times


 No.1696620

File: 72fedc7fd80e58c⋯.png (289.44 KB, 583x371, 11:7, salman_abedi.png)

>>1696102

>Seriously hoping it wasn't a muslim.

They'll come for every kuffar, commie or not.


 No.1696638

>>1696620

>salman abedi

Clearly one of those white supremist nazi fascist I have been hearing about in the media.


 No.1696652


 No.1696653

>>1696510

It's true though. Corbyn was an active IRA supporter.


 No.1696664

File: d5a172e975b40b9⋯.jpg (99 KB, 624x765, 208:255, _96166538_thesunfrontpage2….jpg)

Media bias? where?


 No.1696668

>>1696199

>Just a year or two ago, the US flattened a Doctors Without Borders hospital in Afghanistan and absolutely nothing was done about it. So why should I muster a single fuck just because some Westerners get added to the body count?

I don't think you honestly follow this line of logic. Just a year ago the Pakistani goverment killed civilians, yet you will care when neo-nazi's add a few paki's to the bodycount.

Leftist hatred isn't unspecified aloofness, though it is preferably presented as such.


 No.1696688

>>1695546

But these frames are no doubt brass. The globe was more valuable than that. Didn't they have some autist to consult with?

>>1696469

Zero. None of their million offshoots stands to gain anything from this.


 No.1696699

>>1696668

what the fuck are you on about?


 No.1696701

>>1696652

So ya think this is gonna swing the election or something, ya nob?


 No.1696704


 No.1696711

>>1696704

There's always the chance of the media over-doing the demonization of the opponent and back-firing on them, just like with Trump.


 No.1696714

>>1696701

Don't know - Corbyn must address these matters if he wants to have a chance.


 No.1696719

I suppose the stormfags are going to go into maximum overshill about this


 No.1696728

There's literally nothing wrong with supporting the IRA.


 No.1696734

>>1696728

other than that they don't really exist anymore


 No.1696747

>>1696728

Then embrace the highlighting by the media that Corbyn supported an organization with which there is nothing wrong.


 No.1696770

File: 2faa7278b61cdd3⋯.png (424.58 KB, 637x575, 637:575, PRC.png)

>>1696728

>supporting the IRA

>not the United Provisional Real Revolutionary Continuity Irish People's Liberation Army.


 No.1696814


 No.1696828

>>1696814

b-begorrah…


 No.1696849

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-says-there-could-be-benefits-to-opening-diplomatic-back-channels-with-isis-a6817181.html

Seriously, even USSR and other socialist countries didn't negociate with death cults- jihad terrorist groups like Daesh.

>The British government should keep some form of diplomatic back-channel open to Isis


 No.1696856

>>1696849

Loads of countries have contact details of terrorist group in the case of a kidnapping. It's really not that uncommon except it is very hush hush.


 No.1696860

>>1696849

>Daesh

please stop LARPing


 No.1696878

>>1696828

The limeys know!


 No.1696881

How is there no countryball comic depicting ISIS campaigning for the Tories?


 No.1696886

>>1692847

>i wonder why people hate expats so much

>it's not like their shiteating kids are voting for stuff they quite literally cannot know about


 No.1696889

>>1696881

Because the last people ISIS would want are people who are saying they're going to reduce immigration?


 No.1696895

>>1696886

I'm not an expat; I live in a crown dependency.


 No.1696896

>>1696889

Do they, though?

Almost all of the terrorists are either British born or from the Commonwealth.


 No.1696906

>>1696889

>neocons get in

>military adventurism that pours a tsunami of recruits into ISIS and some poz slurped up, because porky's gonna get those cheap scabs anyway they can

>shitlibs get in

>islamic pozloads pumped into western society and some military adventurism drives ISIS recruitment, because neolibs are also neocons at heart

Tories are better for ISIS, but this is pretty much a win-win scenario for them until actual populist candidates get a direct shot, instead of having to put up with shitheel intermediaries from the neolib/neocon parties.


 No.1696923

File: d5841e4621c72ad⋯.png (125.28 KB, 900x500, 9:5, 1482064786615.png)

>>1696889

>saying

STOP TRYING TO KICK THE FUCKING BALL, CHARLIE.


 No.1697111

The question is, how aware is the public that Tories are currently as immigration-happy as it gets? Everyone always automatically assumes that a rightwing party will be tougher on immigration, but modern Western Europe most definitely bucks the trend, because the government is all Porky all the time.

If you're gonna make memes or slapfight on social networks, point out that Tories (and Merkel's rightwing party, for that matter) pushed hard for immigration.


 No.1697122

>>1696889 You retarded moron. "Xenophobic" candidate elected=New recruits for ISIS, that's logical. If you have a person that you can demonize to make it look like she's the ennemy of muslims that'll mean more radicalization and more recruits.

Basically ISIS and the Police State are each other's useful idiots, they have a mutually benefitial relationship.


 No.1697225

>>1697111

Another good one to point out is that while May has said she plans to reduce immigration to X number by 2020 or whatever but she want trying to do the same thing with no success when she was home secretary.


 No.1697246

It was all going so great and then ISIS fuckers fucked everything. Why would they stop us from having a great left victory ? Why are they so inhuman ?


 No.1697293

>>1696102

>Seriously hoping it wasn't a muslim

Why does this even matter? 22 kids just died you fucking psycho


 No.1697301

>>1697293

Radical liberalism.


 No.1697312

>>1697293

It would hurt the left


 No.1697326

Corbyn should campaign for rigorous state atheism, closing of all religious schools, forced integration and a massive crackdown on Islamism.


 No.1697338

>>1697293

Because it would require the left concede this point to the right. Since the left is essentially a hollow shell, theoretically and practically, giving one position would likely lead to a series of cascading failures that end in total theoretical annihilation. Furthermore, the left does not have the energy required to fill the shell with actual substance. That would actually require engaging with people, with their failures and resolving them.

Further symptoms of this disease would include

1) Accelerationism, which is merely opportunism (in the original sense) adapted to the 21st century.

2) Obsession with "reclaiming thinkers" such as Nick Land. The logic is that once these thinkers are shown to be really /ourguy/, one does not have to engage with his recent work or struggle with his actual actions. No, it is merely sufficient for this heroic individual to be on our side, since his symbolic status somehow negates the truth of his actual ideas. Somehow.


 No.1697432

>>1697326

Retard


 No.1697433

>>1697122

This guy gets it; ISIS and the basis of modern salafist terrorism is to make a clear divide between Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb. Forming a real life black and white divide for Muslims to follow. It's just like a Wahhabist rendition of dialectical materialism where they accelerate their ideals by being the change they want ie killing of heathens and global sharia.

When this divide between the "Islamic world" and the "western world" becomes unclear to Muslims; liberalism naturally occurs. Hence why you got gay Caliphs in the somewhat poly-cultural Umayyadi Córdoba Caliphate when the lines between 'the righteous muslim' and 'the filthy kuffur' no longer made sense when half of your neighbours were catholic, you spoke Spanish and you learnt pagan Greek philosophy from your Jewish teacher at school.


 No.1697541

>>1697432

Al religions are reactionary, Islam especially so. There is literally nothing wrong with cracking down on religion.


 No.1697661

>BREAKING: British PM May: Police have asked secretary of defense to deploy military to help fight terror threats.

WE POLICE STATE NAO


 No.1697697

>>1697661 Wasn't UK already a police state ?


 No.1697771

File: 40e1a8462c503ef⋯.mp4 (1.01 MB, 400x224, 25:14, 18668422_1746377838988206_….mp4)

Corbyn about the attack


 No.1697926

>>1697541

Despite my disagreement, I agree that religious schools should be completely abolished. The Muslim and Hasidic Jewish schools here are probably the worst since they encourage fierce segregation and some of the Jewish schools being flat out illegal and only teaching religious text. I don't agree with religion as anything larger than a local community.


 No.1698473

File: e84ea7ec13a45cf⋯.jpg (65.18 KB, 600x443, 600:443, 0a7b031636c15315b66ce56846….jpg)

So then, was the bomber making a point about Western fun?


 No.1698492

File: 923d5ea1e7eb401⋯.jpeg (60.97 KB, 720x464, 45:29, sctgj.jpeg)

>>1698473

>religious fundamentalists commit atrocities against secular humanism

>victims react by voting in religious fundamentalists

It's good cop, bad cop, isn't it?


 No.1698781

>>1697293

>22 kids just died you fucking psycho

It was a mercy killing. The alternative was those kids growing up in the miserable wastelands of the UK, forced to slave away for decades while surrounded by politically apathetic retards who think East Enders and "footy" is the height of culture. Death is ethically neutral, while continued existence in this country is a very large negative.


 No.1698862

Fuckin hell some people are idiots. Just saw a load of shit saying they should just monitor the internet of the muslims. Not only is that basically not possible but in the same thread someone was saying to just use tor or whatever. If you can do it so can they.


 No.1698868

>>1698781

well then do us all a favour and off yourself, edgelord


 No.1698871

>>1698492

>>victims react by voting in religious fundamentalists

ignoring that, if you atleast want to feel like whoever you voted in wants to stop terrorism, HAS to be some rightwing dufus,

its sad but "the lefts" alignment with those sjw, has hurt the stance of socialism a great deal


 No.1698873

>>1697293

So what? Tens of thousands of people are going to die today. What makes these comfortable little crackers so special?


 No.1698874

>>1698873

They were targeted.


 No.1698878

>>1698873

man oh man, as to most people that die today, they had family and friends, children and grandchildren and all those people have to suffer now. I dont know why you cant grasp how killing random people is a bad thing.


 No.1698879

>>1698874

And? Are all the victims in Yemen not being targeted? Or in Mosul? How many people today are going to die from drones? Am I supposed to weep for them all? Or are you some Yankee Candle shill trying to get me to buy up a bunch of votive candles?


 No.1698880

>>1698878

I didn't say it wasn't bad dummy, I just don't see why I should care. The US has been occupying, invading, or fighting some some country or another for my entire life. What difference does twenty more bodies on the pile make?


 No.1698882

>>1698879

>Am I supposed to weep for them all?

Yes, even if just a bit. This ability is what the spectacle has stripped from our souls.


 No.1698897

>>1698880

>I didn't say it wasn't bad dummy,

>So what? Tens of thousands of people are going to die today. What makes these comfortable little crackers so special?

yes, you did, you even insulted the victims

>the US has been occupying, invading, or fighting some some country or another for my entire life.

and that is also something worth criticising, so whats your point?

>What difference does twenty more bodies on the pile make?

the pile is 20 bodys higher, obviously


 No.1698905

>>1698897

>Yes you did

I guess there's no point in even talking to you any more since you can't even read

>You even insulted to victims

Again, and? So fucking what? Maybe if they had better taste in music they would be alive today.


 No.1698919

>>1698905

>So what? Tens of thousands of people are going to die today.

normalizing

>What makes these comfortable little crackers so special?

dehumanizing


 No.1698921

>>1698919

Call me when you approach something like an argument.


 No.1698925

>>1698879

Oh sorry for carrying about an incident that happened in close proximity to me and resulted in the death of several innocent kids, next time I'll be sure to list every single ongoing conflict worldwide before daring to have an opinion.


 No.1698930

>>1698925

I'm sure those corpses appreciate your butthurt moralism


 No.1698942

File: 20e3175fd2bf527⋯.png (374.98 KB, 600x399, 200:133, relative privation.png)

>>1698930

Not to be a colossal fag, but being angry at virtue-signalling politicians and their lackeys shouldn't get in the way of your own humanity.


 No.1698943

I've just realized that Corbyn has a great opportunity to win by attacking the tories on their cuts to the police.


 No.1698945

>>1698943

Did this work for Callaghan, who insisted on a functional British military, against Thatcher, who intended to sell the entire British government, including all the war materiel that she was lucky enough to have still had when the Falklands were invaded?


 No.1698963

>>1698862

People are dumb. The torys are fucking dumbest though when it comes to the internet have you read the stuff they want to do with encryption, they have no idea how the real world works


 No.1699040

File: 0b021b783ff0368⋯.png (200.83 KB, 1024x1513, 1024:1513, ClipboardImage.png)

damn


 No.1699089

File: c389c58b02a3b90⋯.pdf (2.84 MB, SundayTimesResults_170512_….pdf)

>>1699040

Keep in mind that a good deal less people actually oppose Labour policies than than are merely indifferent to them. That graph only show the percentage that specifically approve of policies, this PDF is the full poll data.


 No.1699100

>>1699040

>only 26% of people for a tax increase for businesses

Fuckin class cucks eh.

>only 35% for the dude weed

I still think labour should run with it just to secure that weed teen demographic.

>>1699089

>only 60% of Labour voters for increase in business tax

Still pretty small.


 No.1699119

>>1698882

Not really, Adam Smith himself noted that if China suddenly disappeared into the abyss and everyone there died, people would feel a bit sad - probably genuinely - and then sleep soundly, but if they lost a finger they'd be devastated beyond consolement.

If anything the constant reminder that some people died somewhere is a bit spectacular in itself. Is it shit, I mean, yeah? Does it actually have any impact on me? Not really.


 No.1699250

Despook me on Corbyn. I hear he's bretty good, but exactly how bretty?


 No.1699264

>>1699040

Why would you want to increase the costs of hiring people? They want to destroy the economy just to fuck over immigrants?


 No.1699274

>>1696664

> caring about the Sun

It's like looking into someone's colon and complaining that it's dirty there.


 No.1699291

File: 5cc0e6419f21dc4⋯.gif (296.51 KB, 400x224, 25:14, 1353880295573.gif)

>>1697433

Nice dubs comrade :D


 No.1699302

>>1699264

There are 1.5 million unemployed people in this country already.

Maybe Porky ought to train some of them before importing a skilled migrant.


 No.1700395

>>1699302

I heard UKIP say they want an exam system for schoolkids to encourage them to get into Trade jobs, not sure if the Tories picked it up


 No.1700755

File: 9316e99e7ef92b7⋯.png (356.89 KB, 540x459, 20:17, 9316e99e7ef92b79c458783354….png)

>>1699302

Reserve pool of labour, anon.


 No.1700937

>>1696889

Labour are promising an end to Saudi arms deals though

so they're literally the best choice if terrorism actually scares you


 No.1701786

>>1700937

Lets hope this message manages to get out to the public


 No.1702141

>>1701786

how do you meme something like that without exploiting tragedy though?


 No.1702402

File: fa367e2956204eb⋯.webm (7.64 MB, 482x332, 241:166, corbyn iraq war.webm)

>>1700937

This.

How do we dispel the 'us vs them' mentality? It's such a simplistic view, such an easy pill to swallow so many kneejerkedly accept it, especially working class people, I hate to say. Just the other day I was in a taxi and the radio was on about the incident and the guy was all "we're at fookin war innit, we need to start taking it to their country" I shit you not he said "there's only one man who can fix this, Donald Trump". I didn't think there were people that retarded here, American-tier retarded. How are people so thick they don't realise interventionism just makes things worse, as proven time and time again? And abandoning all class interests in favour of reactionary parties who offer to be the strongman against terrorism.

I wish Corbyn would get all Nuremberg Rallies about it like he did with the Iraq War, we need this kind of energy behind an anti-interventionist message.


 No.1702408

>>1702141

Find opponents exploiting the tragedy in reverse and jump down their necks.


 No.1703114

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/867848021182173185

POST MANCHESTER ATTACK POLL AND LABOUR ARE WITHIN 5 POINTS OF THE TORIES HOLLLLLYY SHIEEET


 No.1703168

>>1703114

Maybe the world isn't so bad afterall? Just kidding.


 No.1703177

File: b18eeee850083b2⋯.webm (2.16 MB, 640x360, 16:9, corbyn bling.webm)


 No.1703179

>>1703114 Is he going to win ? Can he do it ? Is he doing it ?

By the ways, do you people here know his manifesto or support him without reasons ?


 No.1703184

>>1703114

Any chance Lib Dems form a coalition or do they love Mummy May too much?


 No.1703188

>>1703179

Manifesto was posted here ages ago and discussed at length. Some of that discussion is in this very thread


 No.1703195

File: ab3d39ba86ad71c⋯.png (141.56 KB, 2688x2688, 1:1, 1344177706902.png)

>>1703179

>Jeremy "Diplomatic back channels to ISIS" Corbyn

>winning after Manchester

Only if it's revealed that Mummy May deliberately didn't stop the bomber.


 No.1703205

>>1703195

Really makes you think about how bad May is, eh?


 No.1703217

>>1703114

UNELECTABLE MAN ELECTED AGAIN


 No.1703220

Could Corbyn take advantage of pointing out how May cut police numbers, etc, or will he bumble around this?


 No.1703224

>>1703195

>The latest YouGov with CON led down to just 5% was carried out yesterday and today and so fully takes into account reaction to Manchester

https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/867849419089092614

Corbyn's anti Iraq War activism and anti imperialist credentials bode very well and will actually win people over. Even your numbest little Englander realises the war on terror is not working.


 No.1703228

>>1703220

>He will also point to Labour manifesto commitments to reverse cuts to emergency services and put 10,000 more police on the streets.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-vows-to-tackle-causes-of-terrorism-in-wake-of-manchester-attack_uk_59270349e4b061d8f8200b0f?

briefing on jezza's speech tomorrow so yes


 No.1703230

>>1703220

Mistake for Jezza to personally make a statement like that. This is the sort of thing you leave to others, so you don't seem "divisive" after such a tragic event.


 No.1703231

File: 445729ea32a47f2⋯.png (147.64 KB, 397x224, 397:224, may.PNG)

>>1703195

>MI5 knew about terrorist

>many complaints from local community to government about terrorist being dangerous

>government supported terrorist to go help fuck up Libya

>mummy May was Home secretary for the six years during which this happened


 No.1703232

>>1703224

And here I thought his only hope was to go full tankie and start shitting on religion.


 No.1703235

>>1703195

>Person who said iraq war would lead to disaster and increased terror a better option than people who were all for it and literally want to start a a new "war on terror" to purposely evoke 2003

No fucking shit.


 No.1703236

Holy shit this is starting to luck possible guys.


 No.1703239

>>1703232

I can tell you're young and in your early dawkins phase, because literally anyone who's lived through the original war on terror knows that shit is counter-productive.


 No.1703247

>>1703236

You forget about the Shy Tory factor.


 No.1703253

>>1703247

They've factored expected turnout into the polls this time by demographic group.


 No.1703256

>>1703247

Shy tory factor is an old meme, and implies that voting tory isn't the assumed default be the culture and media. If anything it's more "embarrassing" to vote for "comrade Jeremy"


 No.1703267

>>1703239

I didn't mean War on Terror, I meant Remove Kebab.


 No.1703269

>>1703267

lol are like 17?


 No.1703272

>>1703267

>all corbyn has to do to win is reverse his entire personality and all his positions a full 180


 No.1703283

>>1703247

This poll adjusts for that anyway. So if it still exists May's still in deep shit and if it doesn't she might actually be losing lmfao


 No.1703284

File: 09e56a2b662db58⋯.jpg (148.53 KB, 1500x800, 15:8, pjimage-63.jpg)

Okay /leftypol/, you have a gun with two bullets and you're in a room with these three…


 No.1703286

>>1703284

What would shooting Clinton accomplish at this point?


 No.1703299

>>1703286

The catharsis of justice. For Seth.

May hasn't actually done anything yet, has she? So, Merkel.


 No.1703303

>>1703284

honestly Merkel's party would just win again with someone way more to the right


 No.1703304

File: 8c53c8a7c08ae0e⋯.jpg (94.72 KB, 1156x1006, 578:503, DAtBxX3XcAE3SyR.jpg)


 No.1703331

>>1691681

Maybe Corbyn should do one of these corny E-Sports team introduction videos that are played when they are about to play on the main stage.

They are corny as fuck, but they wouldn't do them if their market researchers said it will get them more views.


 No.1703336

>>1691931

It's sad that voter's nowadays (not just millenials, that meme needs to die) only understand politics through pop-cultural references.


 No.1703338

Can Jezza gulag The Sun editorial staff?


 No.1703353

>>1703336

Yeah, but Rowling is a retard with a child's mind and is desperately trying to cling to the pre-teen and teen audiences after millennials grew up and grew out of her books. That's why she is constantly re-writing her characters for wokeness cred.


 No.1703354

>>1692847

>>1692775

Weird. In our country, if you are a citizen, you are automatically allowed to vote for all coming elections ever.


 No.1703355


 No.1703356

>>1703338

GULAG LIST:

Paul Dacre

JK Rowling

Dan Hodges


 No.1703401

>>1703353

But of course.

Rowling was the main fundraiser for the "No" camp in the Scottish referendum. And soon she can do so again.

Also she wasted a lot of money in the #SaveLabour camaign against Corbyn, this time it clearly failed.

Her books no longer provide her income to maintain her lavish lifestyle. So she is shitting out a lot of books and movie rights recently. Also a theatre release and it wouldn't surprise me if we get a botched Harry Potter MMO soon.

I am not touching that new stuff, since I know that my money will be used against my interests. I only liked the first three tomes, before the romance plot tumour struck.

Why is One Piece the only work of fiction that gets this shit right?


 No.1703439

>>1696653

This is absolutely true. Point to 3 things when taling to people about Manchester and the election.

1. Jezza was against invading Iraq.

2. Jezza was against invading Libya (Its come up that the kid who carried out the attack actually is directly connected to libyan rebels read terrorist fanatics who overthrew Quadaffi

3. Jezza wants to put more cops on the streets

>>1703284

I would shoot Clinton twice.


 No.1703474

File: 15fb4687b7b40b0⋯.jpg (8.3 KB, 165x105, 11:7, 295.jpg)

>>1703356

WALL LIST:

Tony Blair

Rupert Murdoch

all Blairites

entire Tory party


 No.1703489

>"To keep you and your family safe, our approach will involve change at home and change abroad. "At home, Labour will reverse the cuts to our emergency services and police. Once again in Manchester, they have proved to be the best of us. "Austerity has to stop at the A&E ward and at the police station door. We cannot be protected and cared for on the cheap. "There will be more police on the streets under a Labour Government. And if the security services need more resources to keep track of those who wish to murder and maim, then they should get them." "I want the solidarity, humanity and compassion that we have seen on the streets of Manchester this week to be the values that guide our government. "There can be no love of country if there is neglect or disregard for its people. "No government can prevent every terrorist attack. If an individual is determined enough and callous enough sometimes they will get through. "But the responsibility of government is to minimise that chance - to ensure the police have the resources they need, that our foreign policy reduces rather than increases the threat to this country and that at home we never surrender the freedoms we have won and that terrorists are so determined to take away."

some of Corbyn's speech tomorrow. entirely sensible.


 No.1703497

>>1703489

But what about the tax cuts for the rich?


 No.1703560

>>1703401

>Pottervere MMO comes into existence and is kept afloat by neckbeards lewding it up

>tfw Rowling has to avoid questions about living off her fans literally wanking over her created world


 No.1703565

>>1703560

>Rowling has to avoid questions about living off her fans literally wanking over her created world

and i thought that was a thing patreons had to avoid


 No.1703605

>>1703565

In time, people will probably just come to expect those with patreon accounts to be cartoon pornographers.


 No.1703607

>>1703560

>Potterverse MMO comes out

>Get's hyped up as something akin to SWO and LotRO

>It's basically a Club Penguin ripoff


 No.1703720

File: 0d9b52e12d5ffe8⋯.png (578.73 KB, 686x866, 343:433, corbyn propaganda poster 1.png)

>>1703114

The first ones in the Gulags will be the early naysayers.


 No.1703734

>Corbyn will never run

>Corbyn will never get elected by the Labour members

>Corbyn will never find any frontbenchers

>Corbyn will never hold on to power

>Corbyn will never win re-election

>Corbyn will never win re-election with an increased majority

>Corbyn will never bring the party out of debt

>Corbyn will never sing the national anthem

>Corbyn will never come back from 25%

>Corbyn will never prevent the LibDems from becoming the new opposition

>Corbyn will never support Article 50

>Corbyn will never support a GE in 2017

>Corbyn will never support Trident

>Corbyn will never support hard Brexit

>Corbyn will never abolish tuition fees

>Corbyn will never fully cost his manifesto

>Corbyn will never breach 30%

>Corbyn will never win over the working class

>Corbyn will never win over Liberals

>Corbyn will never win over Conservatives

>Corbyn will never win over lost UKIP voters

>Corbyn will never bring his party ahead in approval ratings

>Corbyn will never gain after Manchester

>Corbyn will never rally the North

>Corbyn will never close the gap to 5%

YOU ARE HERE

>Corbyn will never breach 40%

>Corbyn will never force May to debate

>Corbyn will never breach 50%

>Corbyn will never win the general election

>Corbyn will never be PM

>Corbyn will never reverse tax and spending cuts

>Corbyn will never establish a National Education Service

>Corbyn will never renationalise the rails without compensation

>Corbyn will never federalise the UK

>Corbyn will never get a good Brexit deal

>Corbyn will never dismantle the EU

>Corbyn will never abolish the monarchy

>Corbyn will never declare himself Chairman

>Corbyn will never send the Tory press to the gulags


 No.1703763

File: 83e87d7b98a6c5f⋯.png (40.91 KB, 2000x1200, 5:3, Union Of Britain flag.png)


 No.1703767


 No.1703777

File: 8fa8dc39bbf648a⋯.png (886.53 KB, 1000x563, 1000:563, Corbyn Summer Camp.png)


 No.1703795

>>1703734

>Corbin will never nationalize the banks

>Corbin will never turn all companies into co-ops

>Corbin will never increase british manufacturing

>Corbin will never give foreign aid to leftist revolutionaries

>Corbin will never decrees immigration

>Corbin will never decreer a socialist union of Britan

>Corbin will never lead an international leftist revolution

>Corbin will never declare a socialist world order

>Corbin will never send humans to establish space collides

>Corbin will never become socialist god emperor of the universe.


 No.1703828

File: 16b407aad79016b⋯.png (58.77 KB, 1176x448, 21:8, 5gh5XMe.png)

TORY LEAD CUT TO 5 POINTS

I REPEAT

TORY LEAD CUT TO 5 POINTS

I REPEAT

TORY LEAD CUT TO 5 POINTS

I REPEAT

TORY LEAD CUT TO 5 POINTS

I REPEAT

TORY LEAD CUT TO 5 POINTS

I REPEAT

TORY LEAD CUT TO 5 POINTS

I REPEAT

TORY LEAD CUT TO 5 POINTS


 No.1703837

>>1703828

Premier Corbyn will be in Downing!


 No.1703839

File: 57e9b2240669275⋯.png (86.34 KB, 635x479, 635:479, Sargon.png)

File: 9b8cbfe11e16db9⋯.jpg (46.88 KB, 620x350, 62:35, 4a46b3e4cb8fe3a5feb1f3a579….jpg)

File: 4fb4a47f0be8d4e⋯.png (176.61 KB, 203x279, 203:279, 1444427988107.png)

File: 57db266451046ff⋯.jpg (84.43 KB, 1022x892, 511:446, 1473408846858.jpg)

File: 449e33dc121d57b⋯.jpg (29.27 KB, 600x300, 2:1, 1464095446907.jpg)


 No.1703842

File: 04e7a91e9edde06⋯.jpg (125.36 KB, 900x472, 225:118, JC4PM.jpg)

>>1703304

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 No.1703852

File: 1b66179d0da2945⋯.jpg (63.08 KB, 1024x512, 2:1, AAA.jpg)

WE'RE

COMING


 No.1703856

File: bb9f305929a3554⋯.jpg (119.21 KB, 620x387, 620:387, potd-corbyn_3457949b.jpg)

Just look at this smug motherfucker.


 No.1703859

>>1703839

If ever there was a time to brigade a Sargon video


 No.1703882

File: 667114c50e3083f⋯.png (742.48 KB, 1311x475, 69:25, 1492183425842.png)

>>1703734

>>1703114

it's fucking happening


 No.1703888

guys there's a corbyn = nazbol thread on /pol/

is it happening


 No.1703891




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