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Snap elections edition



Yeah I do think they will pick up a couple of seats from people with EU-boners.


Is there anything to the theory that the Tories are deliberately committing voter suicide with their retarded manifesto and policies so Labour has to handle the complete shitshow that will be Brexit and everything that goes wrong can be used as a stick to reinforce the "SOCIALISM BAD" meme

or am I just being paranoid



maybe some Tory seats in London possibly they one that bi election a while ago


I doubt it I feel like May is under pressure from her party and British bourgeois to do brexit in a way that benefits them



>May is under pressure from her party and British bourgeois to do brexit in a way that benefits them

good point


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>yfw you could have stopped it


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It's a shame a Liberal surge doesn't seem to be materialising. The poster is basically historically true. (I like it for design reasons.)

Corbyn has a reasonable chance of getting a better vote % than Blair in 2005 but still losing, since the Liberals are dead and the Conservatives aren't.








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It continues.




>unelectable man elected again




Fuck is he going to do it? He does need to take at least 6 or 7 percentage points from the torys to win. There's still two weeks so who knows



Just imagine how embarrassed May would be if she only gained one seat never mind losing seats


Corbyn surely has to stay if they mid to high 30s are consistent to the end of the election, even if he loses?


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>Tories lead cut from 21 points to 9 points in one month.

Only thing stopping Jez is time.



Time and the tory lead the tory's vote needs to come. Maybe we will see this with pensions getting pissed off and turning to lib dems or labour



>“Now, I do approach things in a different way - in the sense that my thinking on every job I do is just get in there, do the best I can and get on with it.”

wow, what a towering intellect she is

you brits are lucky to have her :^)


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who /praying for 1974/ here.

I know that it's a spiked example (Labour would probably have been better off had they lost that election since they inherited a shit economy, and if Labour wins they'll probably be blamed for the upcoming recession) but simply seeing off May would be enough for me.

Poster is from 1978 (Accounts vary as to whether it was used, or they were all burned after the winter of discontent) but I like it.


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>who /praying for 1974/ here.

Wait, I'm not that familiar with British politics but wasn't that the start of Labour's decline and where everyone got sick of union bullshit?

inb4 Blairposting




Yes and No. The party actually had some pretty large internal rifts before that (In opposition to Heath they were quite split over the EEC, hence why Harold Wilson, deft politician as he was, offered a referendum to smooth over the cracks.)

It wasn't really the unions fault so much as it was a big collision of factors mostly outwith their control. (Stagflation basically being a global norm and the worst of inflation being inherited from Heath.) Labour probably screwed up when they tried another round of pay restraint in 1978 (with the expectation even lower inflation than the 8% they achieved that year would help them get re-elected.) bringing on a (overblown but extant) wave of strikes.

People kind of got sick of unions because of the impressions created in the bourg press and because of conflation between officially sanctioned strikes and wildcat strikes. But really the blame at the root of it lies with global stagflation. The destruction of trade unions in this country was a tragedy.

I'd go into more detail but I need to run to the shops before they shut so it's not at the front of my mind. I'd say Labour's decline really began after 1979. (although they acceded to capitalist realism at the behest of the IMF.)


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>mfw labour gets a majority but fails to form a government because blairites tear it asunder within weeks and corbyn gets removed in a vote of no confidence as his own party stabs him in the back (again)

>mfw the next recession hits and labour gets the blame and 'socialism' is tainted with a legacy of economic chaos again




just another day in their 2 year long smear campaign against corbyn



i think it's working against them now, they're rehearsing old shit. calling corbyn an IRA member or anti semite might have been shocking a year or two ago but the saturation point was hit long ago because the right wing media played their cards too early.



I agree they have been attacking him long before she called an election, and now the spotlight is on him as the "unelectable man" / underdog gaining in polls. Brits love an underdog and the torys have realised they have nothing left to attack him with it will be really interesting to see if Labour do win seats back



Nah, he will need a major shift in Scotland to get a majority if it is this close: but denying May a majority will be a victory in itself.



If the Torys didnt have a majority we could see a Labour minority government, it would be political suicide for the SNP to vote against Labour in Westminster


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If there was any justice in this world…



really makes u think


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>What are they teaching your children? Are they teaching them how to think – or what to think? Worse, are they monitoring you by trapping your children into answering intrusive questions about your private opinions? Do you know? You may think that the crazy ideas of the hard Left are safely contained in Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party, or the Guardian newspaper.

But some recent disturbing letters from parents of school-age children made my stomach lurch. I saw in these accounts the gradually solidifying shape of a nasty new intolerance, state-financed and more or less unavoidable by anyone with school-age children.

>First of all, for a flavour of the ideas encouraged in our schools, look at a recent competition for ‘gifted pupils’. Let’s say this was ‘somewhere in Southern England’. Its theme was ‘2016: A Pivotal Year In History’, which might seem harmless. But what were the 15-year-olds involved actually doing?

>The competition brief allowed for a wide range of topics to be covered. Wide? Well, the winners discussed ‘prejudice in 2016’. What prejudice was that? ‘Incidents of hate crime after Brexit, Islamophobia and the media portrayal of these events.’ They also dealt with, yes, ‘gender, religious and racial equality’.

>Another team in this competition ‘highlighted’ the way in which David Bowie and Prince ‘made people start to question social convention on gender identity’. Others tackled ‘biased slants from certain media corporations’ by which I doubt they meant the BBC, and, of course, ‘climate change’ and immigration, those two tests of correctness and acceptability among the modern Left. Do you see a theme here? You should.

>For not far away, in a different part of Southern England, another parent tells me that his daughter recently came home from primary school bearing a decorated poster with ALLAH across the middle. That parent says: ‘I have yet to see a similar poster with GOD or JESUS across it.’ His son, at a secondary school, is about to visit a mosque. So far there have been no visits to Christian churches. But it goes further than that.

>At a recent parent-teacher meeting, which discussed ‘refugees’, the head teacher spoke of ‘these dark days’ since the EU referendum. The boy has recently come home from school and – with a note of disapproval in his voice – asked his father: ‘Dad, why do you read the Daily Mail?’ It turns out that a teacher had asked the pupils how their parents had voted for in the referendum, and when one of the pupils said ‘Brexit’, this teacher had responded, in a disapproving tone, by asking: ‘Why did they vote for that?’

>Let’s not exaggerate. These teachers are not (yet) reporting politically incorrect parents to the authorities. But what worries me is that all the preconditions for surveillance and indoctrination are there. Socially and morally conservative opinions are treated as phobias and heresies. Parents who hold such views are undermined by their children’s teachers. Already, on the excuse of discouraging Islamic extremism, schools are licensed to probe into the minds of their pupils. Once you’ve allowed this for one supposedly ‘extreme’ opinion, it’s not a big shift to move on to others.

In the meantime, might these attitudes affect such things as the grading of coursework, job and university applications? I don’t doubt it. Governments come and go, supposedly Left-wing and supposedly Right-wing – though the supposedly Right-wing ones usually turn out to be nothing of the kind. But in the schools, the universities and most of the public sector, the wild Marxist Cultural Revolution quietly continues its long march through the institutions.

Seems /leftypol/ did take notice in school.



jesus fucking pissdrinking christ

how is any of this "marxist"



There is no justice only profit.


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While this is a bit silly I do think Peter might be onto something with the general erosion of conservative attitudes.

My thinking runs as follows: Christianity and that sort of personal-austerity that can run with certain varieties of it poses problems for consumer capitalist profitability. The two options ahead are to corrupt christianity ("name it and claim it", the US route.) or to push it out of social life so that it becomes meaningless (The British route.)

I'm sure I had more to this thought but really it's rooted in the pretty obvious thing that a Social Democrat has more time for Christian Democracy than for neoliberalism. (Now where's that political horseshoe with communism at the centre…)



It's the spearhead of marxian praxis.


Business follows, it does not lead, for a business cannot afford to be politically incorrect. In 1930's Germany businesses advertised themselves a pure Aryan, in today's Germany they advertise themselves as "diverse". I could go on with examples, point being that businesses never lead ideological changes.

Neo-liberalism is like cultural marxism except that it has Friedman and Hayek instead of Adorno and Marcuse to play the role of the Jew.


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>cultural marxism




Unless marxists are cultureless beings, which would mean they are low-functioning retards, there has to be a culture of marxism. You could claim that this is a motte-and-bailey argument, but in principle it stands.

The peculairity of the triggered response to the term means that it's on to something regarding marxist self-identity.



That would be Marxist Culture, not Cultural Marxism


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>The peculairity of the triggered response to the term means that it's on to something regarding marxist self-identity.

or maybe it's an annoying slur/meme based off of nazi propaganda and that posters particularly on leftypol are sick to death of refuting it, you dumb fucker


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>the spearhead of marxian praxis

>Neo-liberalism is like cultural marxism

How about you just admit that none of this has anything to do with marxism and is just the rational conclusion of capitalism's endless drive to commodify culture, atomise society and disrupt community?



>cultural marxism

you know actual """cultural marxism""" was aimed at preventing culture from being commodified and destroyed by capitalism, yeah?



Not if the implicit undercurrent of marxism is described by calling it cultural; hence cultural marxism.


All the other slurs slide of you like water slides of a raincoat, this one is more sticky, that points to it being made of something else than annoying slurs and memes.


If you had reading comprehension you would understand my comparison as showing an equivalence of the terms; this equivalence being that they are both purely accusatory and instrumentally vague terms that are used to tie any and every change in society as stemming from a political plot rooted in a few nefarious Jews.



wow man you're really smart



Which is pointless since marxism is capitalism, or rather the capitalism of marxism is marxist, capitalism a part, not a separate entity. Marxism seeks to complete it's capitalism, capitalism is correct in making the world a supermarket in which choice is god, the problem is that this is not fulfilled, there are still the oppressions that form roadblocks in the supermarket, communism takes these roadblocks away to fulfill the capitalist wish of pure consumption.


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>I don't know what capitalism or marxism mean: the post

It's actually impressive how much senseless gibberish you managed to fit in such a brief post.



>there has to be a culture of marxism

How the fuck do you make a culture of a socioeconomic analysis?



Forgot shitposting flag


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>‘I have taken from my party everything they thought they believed in. What keeps it together is success and power.’

- attributed to Tony Blair by Andrew Rawnsley in his Servants Of The People (2001 paperback edition), page 195.


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I know, marxism means that you're right because that's what marxism means to you. It's this literalness that makes marxists incapable of meta-analysis.


By basing human activity around said socioeconomic analysis.



there isn't. every country that followed/adopted marxist ideology pretty much stayed the same as they were before, it didn't change their culture.

Russia was a very imperialist country before 1917 and it stayed the same when it became USSR.


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Look at what happened to China, it used to have a rich, deeply rooted high culture. After the cultural marxist revolution, all that was left were the basest desires of greed and power.



Ok you're retard.



>By basing human activity around said socioeconomic analysis.




oi lads. what's the official website for the communist party.


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Which one?



the most popular one




ta very much


Tory lead in single figures, halved in a week.






>joining a third party in a FPTP system when there is a TUSC backed opposition leader

hurrr durrr



>I subscribe to a different approach of dealing with the country's problems

lol, what a wonderfful euphemism


looks like the brits on 4pol are finally realising that the tories are bankrupt. They need a push to go to labour though, most of them are throwing their hands up saying they won't vote for anyone.


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Well at least Corbyn can match Blair's vote share without the support of any major media news outlet.

It looks like lib dems have switched over to conservatives but it's really lib dems to labour with many labour voters switching to conservatives.



Don't bother, Brits who follow /pol/'s line of thinking are almost always completely retarded and have confused Britain for America due to their shut in nature combined with the aut-right youtube presence.



I've met Chinese students from over there who are glad they don't believe in those old spooks, they find western obsession with fung shui and taoism cringeworthy.

But they're same kind of rich kids (they were paying £15,000 in annual tuition fees alone) who thought living in the UK was no different to living in China.


How come we didn't make any good memes or image macros to support Corbyn over May?



Cause unlike Trump supporters, we would rather do things that actually help.


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you just need to make them realise that any UKIP support who wants "control" should be voting Labour hands down.



It would be far easier and effective to convince would be Tories to vote for UKIP, splitting their vote. But I want a small majority Tory government so they get blamed for all the fucky shit that's about to happen. Every day there are downplayed warning signs reported in the BBC that our economy is about to shit itself. I don't want a 2008 2: Electoral Boogaloo on Corbyn's watch.

Something in the ballpark of Con 40% - Lab 38% would be nice.



pretty weird you'd say that considering Trump's full blown meme status helped him win the election


lefties please meme this on facebook




Nice meme. He won in the electoral college.






Fuck off. At least some of us are trying to support Corbyn unlike you nat-fucks.




Holy fucking kek, Corbyn must have done this a few times. I was watching BBC news and he did it to her then too.



If you candidate is backed by Campaign for Socialism, back them. It's the Clause Four Socialist group in Scotland that's linked to Momentum.

Most of the people in it are former Tankies from the 80s, but they're solidly pro-Corbyn.



kezia dugdale literally implied people in the highlands and borders should vote tory or lib-dem to keep the SNP out, even though the SNP would be duty bound to support a corbyn administration.

some of you might be trying but as an institution (or accounting unit) Scottish Labour is nothing but a hindrance to socialism.



I don't know shit about British politics, why would you support them instead of Labour?



Do you have a list of these candidates?


SNP dominate Scotland, with Scottish Labour being pretty cunty a lot of the time.



Explain how modern monetary theory doesn't realistically explain how the central bank function in a monetary economy. I don't even think you understand what modern monetary theory is.



It didn't. I doubt any normal person voted for him based on internet memes and the people who care about those things are both in the minority and also didn't vote.

Also see >>1690650


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Here's the ones that are members (they're basically the Scottish version of Momentum).

Few other ones will be pro-Corbyn but not members.


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The Second is basically what Pol were trying to do in France.


Be real with me, comrades. what are the chances labour will be elected? i'm still seeing a lot of opinion polls in favour of the tories, or is this is just porky shilling?



IMO they shouldn't win, but rather come in close and have the tories win and inevitably fail, causing the overton window to further turn to the radical left.


Irish person supporting Jezza from the sidelines here and I swear reading this Tory campaign to whip up fearmongering about the IRA has me listening to rebel songs and wanting to blow shit up.

why do little englanders care about the IRA more than people in Ireland who were actually, routinely, affected by the troubles?



The right-wing victim complex has been getting out of control recently. Any place where there is any semblance of left-wing view (mainly uni campuses, and internet youth forums) they cry and cry about people not respecting their opinion.

Left-wing economic views aren't at all respected in the media or our broader society, the whole world is a safe space for neoliberals and anywhere that isn't they whine like little bitches.



Shit, just when you think the thieving scum couldn't get any lower, they pull shenanigans like that.

I am tempted. very tempted to suicide bomb a tory rally.


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I don't even care. Hi there, GCHQ. I'm gonna bomb your shit.



do it to a labour rally and say you're opposed to the 50% tax rate in your suicide note




what would that achieve?



make tories look like cunts to neutrals


Jesus christ

Sturgeon got BTFO by this nurse at the Scottish debates today, saying has to go to a foodbank

And then a bunch of SNP fanatics (even an SNP MP) start a witch hunt on twitter, suspecting she's a tory plant in the televised debate audience (which turned out to be false, although strangely the social media trolls did discover she earns £22k, sends kids to private school and goes on expensive holidays)

thank fuck the Tories can't use this shitshow to their advantage, since they're worse on NHS




tbf it's rather interesting that she noted the BBC invited her back because she never got to ask about it earlier when she was on question time or something.

despite my usual proclivity for conspiracies, i'm going to suspect it's because the BBC wanted some cheap television attention rather than because they know who their paymasters are. Well, they know their paymasters are also the public since they're expected to compete with Sky and ITV and whatever, but that's not the point, you know what I mean.



since i left it out in a fit of being a retard: the reason it's interesting is obviously because like most of the debate, it was completely irrelevant to the election at hand, discussing devolved issues which we've just come out of an election over.

unhighlight of the night goes to the suggestion sturgeon could lose her seat in this election. to think there was a day they pretended scots had a nuanced understanding of politics on the basis of "SNP at Holyrood, Labour at Westminster"…


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Is it happening?



Strong home run for Jezza and it could be. Labour strategists need to earn their money in the next two and a half weeks. A shame there's no debate, because Corbyn would get a huge bump from that after inevitably outclassing May,



the cons know they'll get BTFO in a debate and that's why they're avoiding it. I like in a tory stronghold and i'm pretty sure this entire county might be a swing region.


anyone else worried that if somehow Labour wins they'll be left with dealing with a hard brexit and the inevitable shitstorm which will kill their popularity?



i'm pretty sure they'll at least try to soften it



Very much. The British are not a smart bunch.


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a blow is still a blow even if it's softened

frankly the best scenario I can think of is tories winning by a small margin, getting the blame for all the problems and corbyn & co dragging them through the mud every step of the way

and then a labour win in 2022

and melenchon as well, maybe also podemos getting into government, so there's a kind of socialist-ish community in europe instead of the neoliberal status quo

but what I believe will happen is the knives will come out as soon as the election is over and the blairites will start fucking with him again


what is wrong with /r/labouruk

you know that phrase "if you don't stand for something you;ll fall for anything"? well i used to believe it until visiting that sub. centrist shits dont stand for anything except being against everything corbyn does



my thoughts are that if Corbyn doesn't win this, labour will go back to being a blairite circlejerk


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Wow, people are stupid



yes, the left is between a rock and a har dplace

they either win and inherit a world of shit

or lose and get shanked by the blairites



Right now, the two most recent polls from YouGov and Survation suggest to me that the Tories would only get a majority of 36

Sure, your scenario sounds nice but would a small Tory majority be more or less conducive to Scottish independence? That's gotta be a vital part of your european progressive fightback too




Best case scenario is to lose, but lose by 2-3%, barely enough to complain about Blairites who sabotaged the election.



>Tfw you've gone from "The SDP were cool" naivite to unironically agreeing with "one of the advantages of extremism is that it makes you feel good" and wishing the left could make an alliance with the right on the basis of "…and moderates" even though "after hitler our turn" didn't turn out well the first time, simply out of a sense of despair and having nothing to lose.

still like Shirley Williams though.


It seems probable the entire world is. Retail slowdown in the US, Cassandra Keen saying Australian housing's going to go, and apparently George Osbourne's changes to mortgage taxes or something has fucked the Buy-To-Let sector. (And on that note there are a huge number of unsecured interest only mortgages in the UK. Fun stuff: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B24wHuyDETj3dzNzS1E5V1lfNkU/view )


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Corbyn is rly trying to get the youth to vote



You know what, bring it on. Maybe a few eyes will be opened that neolib status quo will be the death of us


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Post rare McDonnells lads



i love the guy but he's such an awful speaker lmao



May is not much better TBH



I agree but people I speak to seem to actually genuinely believe she's strong and stable lel



I disagree. Then again, my opinions are usually quite far from typical.


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so did he



Eh, I partially see it but he comes across all-right. To a degree I think it benefits him to not have the stupid voice coaching style that you usually see. (I mean could you imagine Tony Blair not looking like a total twat speaking there? Ignore Iraq, Ignore Tory-Lite and just imagine his voice with the insistent. punctuation. with ridiculous. emphasis. education education, education, economic activity is best left to the. private sector. with. market forces. allowed to operate…)


May unironically has autism or something. There are literal robots (in Japan, probably.) that come across as more human than May. It's unsettling. Actually that's why she disturbs me so much. She is the uncanny valley incarnate. Too human to be a lizard, too lizard to be human.



>paranoid schitzoid

bit ableist tbh



I think they like him for how uncharismatic his speeches are tbh. Makes him seem more down to earth





Why is the British national thread cyclical, but the other national threads not? (Dutch and German)






Because 🍀🍀🍀they🍀🍀🍀 want to quarantine all the Anglos in one thread.



Scheiß Inselaffen



This is primarily an anglophone board, so there's more Brits here. Also us Americans retain a perverse inferiority complex toward the UK, so we're more interested in their politics than other countries'.


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what does brit think of aaron bastani / novara media?


How likely is a second Scottish independence referendum, Brits?



At the moment everyone is being very circumspect as to whether they'd outright Catalonia Scotland (i.e. ignore that the Scottish parliament has already voted in favour of having one, but still officially needs the power transferred from London to hold a "binding*" one. Theoretically they could hold a non-binding one but it'd be a glorified opinion poll.)

*technically we don't have binding referendums because parliament is held above everything, but they've held to the rules voluntarily every time thusfar.

So it's hard to say between "reasonably possible", it depends a lot on how things slide. (They either slide towards "okay, now it's the time", or towards "No we've been very clear on this, people don't really want one…")



50/50 under corbyn, 100% impossible under may, but i doubt the scots really want it as it would mean punishing austerity to meet the entry requirements for the euro, or an equally punishing period to set up their own currency which would also mean about 25 years of economic hardship



>tfw you'll never travel up north to fight for the scottish revolution

feels pretty bad, lads. i'm not that bad of an englishman



Brexit hangs by the same thread, so they don't have much of a choice in that regard. And if remoaners get their way for a second poll, the gentlemans' agreement regarding "nonbinding" polls might crack apart, causing actual binding referenda to happen.




Ebin meme.


It's incredible that the Tories' shameless power grab might backfire, and all they had to do was open their mouths to lose support.


>corporate tax cuts of 19.4b

Jesus Christ, that's obscene. It's like the right doesn't even remember the bit about "governing" and think they got a ticket to take everything that isn't nailed down.


I'm mirin'. That's the physique I want to have and can't get.



I realize it gives the right-wing oxygen (needlessly, just because no significant leftist political force has openly endorsed it), but the EU has to be put out of its misery before it can drag Europe down with it.

Everything potentially good about the EU was overtaken by hardcore laissez-faire neolib ideologues during the 2000s. Brexit, and the potential for Frexit next election (not just LePen, even Jean-Luc holds them at arms length) are the last chance for the EU to either be reformed into something useful, or be destroyed and replaced by something better.



I actually support Brexit if it happens under a leftist government, but the idea that opposition to the government's current strategy is "moaning" is simultaneously laughable and slightly disgusting.



neoliberalism will die, it's just a matter of time. it's becoming less and less credible by the day.


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Most of those people sincerely think the EU in its current state is defensible, they're 100% status quo "centrists" in favor of austerity budgets, deregulation, and open borders under New Labour. They have no actual opinions on policy, and care only about "stability".

Moaning is the sum total of their objection on any political subject.


need a meme of "who would you vote for, with Corbyn and May as Dumbledore and Umbridge


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>Corbyn …as Dumbledore

[blairite screeching]



But… how can you have deregulation and austirity leading to "stability"???



By creating "confidence" in the "Markets"



sounds like oh dearism


that's what centrists actually believe, insofar as they believe anything



Oh, and one other thing that this attitude cultivates: They blame every one of the Tory manifesto's "new" policies on Brexit, pretending that Brexit negotiations imbued the Tories with magical unilateral legislative power, ignoring that (like any international treaty) all of it still has to go through the same channels as it would without Brexit. And the Tories are all to happy to play along with this delusion, "justifying" the complete nonparticipation of Labour/Progressive/SNP in negotiations.


Because government is perpetually teetering on the brink of collapse and bankruptcy, whereas the free market is of inherently as stable as the Rock of Gibraltar. That's just human nature.



nothing pisses me off like this religious bullshit.

at first i thought "oh, actually the religious analogy is great! it's dismissive, but basically accurate", now i'm just sitting here screaming: jesus christ, they've actually done it, they've actually made a god out of the abstract motions of a bunch of jumped up gamblers. we have to behave ourselves because they're crazy and we don't know what we're doing.

it's not fun. at least prayer was personalised, at least I could pray to god for the famine to end. Neoliberalism won't even let the individual have that.



I would accept that as accelerationism… if I didn't know it will lead to worse days for me and fascism for Europa…



All humans are morons, and going by your definition almost everyone who complains about anything is just moaning.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. Political debate is entirely pointless. The future will happen when it happens, and it will probably be shit regardless of what any of us do. Suicide is probably the most sensible policy decision.



>he thinks he can avoid fascist dystopia

If you're smart/lucky enough you should become porky while you still can.

If not, start stockpiling lube.


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>He thinks a life sold out as porky or slave is better than death fighting


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Someone retwat this to Rowling



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i-is it really happening?

btw, last day to register to vote. tell your friends.



I'm not optimistic yet but I don't think he's going to do as bad as initially thought.


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>Porky gets "death panels" thrown back in their stupid face


Huge U-Turn on the social care proposals just annouced by Theresa May.

They're apparently going to have a cap so the amount you have to pay towards social care is restricted. However, she failed to mention what this cap might be.

In any case, it's a massive climbdown and means that she'll get torn apart in the press for the next couple of days at least.

It seems to me that the Tories are either purposefully trying to lose the election or really are just that incompetent that they can blow a 20 point poll lead in the space of a few weeks.



Tories officially on the back foot, Corbyn coming in with the jabs. This is turning out so much better than I thought



And when people realise a cap doesn't really mean much they will still be pissed off. All the tory papers are going to have to u turn too and that might get a few people at least annoyed by may.



Yup. This is the best bit really.

This "u-turn" has all of the publicity of a u-turn but none of the benefits a proper u-turn would have brought.

Just a matter of time until the house of cards comes falling down.



not looking too strong and stable right now is she?


UK media's obsession with Jeremy Corbyn




>boomers start jumping ship ONLY when they start facing the axe



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>mfw I can't register to vote because I haven't been issued my National Insurance number.



how can you be 18 and not have an NI number?



ignore shitposting flag



Not him but I was just never sent one for some reason.


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I also just received this 3 fucking days after I applied to vote



it's a shame the generation younger than them aren't as uncucked



stfu and get down the town hall lad



I don't live in the UK but I am eligible to register through my parents.



Don't worry, you'll be able to form big boy thoughts when you, too, are older.


This article is pretty funny


>Labour’s proposed increase starts at income earned above £80,000 a year, so some people might say, “I don’t earn anywhere near that, so it won’t apply to me.” But the simple answer to that is, “Yes you do. Don’t be conned by Labour’s communist lies, you earn £600,000 a year as a commodities broker.”



I can't believe that simple point eluded you. Never mind.



No, I understood it. It was written with the elegance of a stuttering Romanian at a customs raid.



Oh I'm sorry, is this thread where we enter our dissertations for our politics degrees?



based mark steel



Calm down reddit.



wait? This isn't a PolSci uni course?



you can email your local council return officer with pictures of your passport I have a friend with no NI number and thats what he had to do


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So just to be clear I made my point, you apparently understood it perfectly, acted like a smart arse for no apparent reason, and because I didn't offer to suck your dick in gratitude you decided I'm from reddit?

Great contribution anon.



Yes. The only adjustments I'd make to it was the original point was poorly worded and not particularly inspiring or witty, and I decided your final retort was sassy and passive aggressive enough to be reddit tier.



omfg piss off dickhead


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How do we stop this smug Tory cunt?


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>Everything since the start of time has been one long mistake.

I prefer to call it "the learning process"


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If you live in Scotland and vote Labour, you deserve to be shot and hung.



Not only does it increase the number of seats that the Tories could win due to vote-splitting, it also gives Westminster an excuse to block another Scottish referendum.

Also the SNP would be far more reliable parliamentary allies of Corbyn than a Scottish Labour branch full of blairites, careerists and right wing opportunists.



But without any learning.

A novel approach, human ingenuity at it's finest.



is it happening?




Reminder that Nationalism is the antithesis of Socialism.

Solidarity folks.



polls don't mean shit unless you turn out to vote on the day, it's probably a globalist ruse to make us complacent and let the tories in again.


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Had to screencap this one I was so impressed.




I-I'm not out of touch.


can anyone tell me how the tories are doing in the meme wars on twitter and normiebook?


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19/17 comr8




Labour has a social media stranglehold



Corbyn's all over it, cause of the generational gap. Youth are pro-Labour.

Numbers of under 25s registering to vote is promising; today's the deadline.



go on /r/labour instead


So the tories have paid ads on "Dementia tax"

Does anyone already have a bot written which could spam such a thing?


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good to hear, just make sure to get everyone you know to vote.

a forum i use is an irritatingly right wing echo chamber, i cbf dealing with the mental gymnastics going on there right now.


don't get complacent lads and lasses


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Has anyone seen the clips from the Andrew Neil May interview. She is so fucking uncharismatic every second she is on the air is going to loose Tory votes. I have never seen a politicians stick to a pre planned script like that ever. In David Cameron was better than this


Just the way she says "Andrew" is sickening fucking hell this she is awful


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say it with me now:





>Reminder that Nationalism is the antithesis of Socialism.

>Solidarity folks.

>Make sure to vote for clinton in solidarity with sanders



you just kinda live in this weird inertia generated by all the normal shit you do


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I just saw this on normiebook, up your game /leftypol/



Have not made a single meme lads for this election might do so


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This is a meme position used to mask British nationalism, consciously or not. Why does solidarity always stop at the English channel? Why can a true internationalist not operate over even a comparatively open border like that with Ireland?

(As noted in "The end of british politics?")

>By the late 19th century, the providential commitment was invested in the mission of Empire. As the domestic social and cultural fabric changed, and the geopolitical environment was transformed, new ways of imagining the British mission were cultivated. The years during and immediately after the First World War were crucial. The working class, especially the working class of Scotland, was fused into the state by the experience of war. The Labour Movement, which before the war had been mildly separatist, was converted to its own version of British ‘Unionism’ – principally by the promise of using the power of the central British state to create a regime of British social citizenship. This promise was realised in the post-war settlement after 1945. Now new fantasies (or if you prefer fresh imaginings) were spun around the providential people: Britain as the pioneer of the welfare state; Westminster as the mother of Parliaments; Britain as the original home of democracy; the Commonwealth as the successor to a dead Empire. To recall Renan again: a nation is indeed a community united by common error with regard to its origins.

> But the post-war settlement was not just a matter of constructing an imaginary past. It involved important policy commitments in the here and now. It meant a system of social citizenship which redefined what it meant domestically to be British. It meant a set of economic theories which gave the central British state responsibility for steering the whole economy. It meant new international alliances which readapted the imperial mission to the world of NATO and the Cold War, and which committed the state to a uniquely high level of military spending. The domestic props of this reimagined Britain collapsed in the 1970s; the international components had to be refashioned after the collapse of the Soviet bloc in 1989. Reimagining the British state has since then been the central task of policy makers, especially of policy makers at the metropolitan centre. Chapter 4 describes this: the great burst of innovation which encompasses the years of Thatcherite triumphalism and New Labour adaptation. The years after 1979 saw a flowering of policy creativity which refashioned the shape of the state and offered new visions of its domestic and international purposes. All this came to a dead end in the second decade of the 21st century. It was destroyed by a great contradiction in domestic policy: the state simultaneously tried to reimagine Britain but pursued economic policies which contributed to communal dissolution.

Britain isn't special. The sooner it dies and is forced to recognise this the better. This fucking chauvinism towards the rest of the world, even among the presumable left, is both laughable from a post-imperial King Laius state and remarkably tedious. From Shetland to Cornwall you matter, after that - well, you're a bit weird aren't you. We'll just watch from afar…



NEC expels members for mean comments on twitter



The NEC are fucking faggots who cucked us out of deselecting the Blairites.


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Have any of you lot seen the interviews daily politics is doing with the smaller parties? There's something quite appealing about hearing unapologetic marxist orthodoxy on the beeb.

Workers Revolutionary Party (my personal favourite)


Alliance for Green Socialism


Socialist Party of Great Britain



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Reminder that she's not talking about tactical voting to keep the tories out.


Describe Tories with one word.









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idea: just as the upcoming recession hits let the SNP hand power to this coalition of hilarity via green abstention, then fuck with it from the sidelines (since green+SNP still has a majority) and blame them for all the declines in living standards, funding, etc, then vote the coalition of fucking kek out of power in time for the next election, leaving all 3 parties to campaign with that huge stain on their record.

won't happen but would be kekworthy.






it just shows how critically out of touch these people are.



What next, "kill the poor"?



>tfw you'd unironically prefer it if they just came out and said they wanted to kill the poor and the disabled

the pretence of caring, of being the parental figure who goes "I know you don't want to work because you're paralysed from the neck down/live in a town where the sole source of employment is the job-centre, but this is for your own good…" annoys me more than the callousness.



that would be an act of mercy at this point.

can't have that old chap, make the blighters sweat a little first eh?



>restructures economy deliberately to keep 10%~ of people unemployed

>heh just get a job bozo




I wouldn't be surprised if they want to lose so that Labour have to deal with the brexit shit and they can sweep the election next time.










anyone else have a soft spot for ed despite him not being anywhere near /our guy/ material? seems like a decent guy



Kek, those Tories. A Tory who is voting Labour says "Because the only justification for voting conservative is either you're rich and want to get richer or you think you're too good to vote labour, neither of which are very popular opinions" and they all immediately jump down his neck calling him a dole scrounger.



tfw you will never move to Scotland and wander through the highlands with your Sheltie :(



literal scum


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On the one hand, your line of thought makes perfect sense. On the other, every defeat for the SNP also turns into a defeat for independence.


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daily reminder to vote LIBERAL for our children.


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A lot of people forget that most of these people don't want believe themselves evil. They have to convince themselves either that the people they're harming deserve to suffer and die, or that causing them to suffer and die is actually helping them. They're lying to themselves just as much as they're lying to the British people.



pretty much

coming face to face with the fact that your actions, your beliefs, hurt people and cause misery must be a huge shock so people do what people always do when faced with such experiences - rationalize them away


>Corbyn surging in the polls

>Looks like he might actually have a chance to win

>Suddenly Manchester gets bombed



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I wonder who could be behind this


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love-a-lot bear is socdem



I find it weird how he tries to be more public lately, seemingly not realizing that he is perhaps the single most hated person in Britain.



Fuck is this what being /pol/ feels like?



Suddenly ISIS



You know, the Soviets really were way ahead on the propaganda game than the entire rest of the world for a ong time.


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soviet propaganda is outright art

i forget the wording but i can give the gist

"Washington style peace"

"neutron bombs leave valuable property intact"



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>that last pic

fuck me



We're fucking doomed



Reminder that Operation Gladio was real.



>"neutron bombs leave valuable property intact"

But there's nothing left in the poster…


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That's the kind of shit Porky would say.


You know, considering the aut-right's losing streak after Trump, Corbyn really has it in the bag.



the gold frame for a globe remains while the globe itself is gone. the "valuable" material part is retained.


Could there be a spike in UKIP support now that could eat into tory polls and lead Corbs to victory?



Seeing as it was in the north, it could go the other way. Labour voters switching to UKIP.


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You could hear the cheers come from Conservative party HQ when they got news of this terrorist attack.


>5 hours before

>May engages in possibly the most catastrophic braindead interview in the history of UK politics, even worse than Diane Abbott tier.

>Entire media goes into meltdown, even the Daily Mail had to close all their articles about it because it looked so bad

>Suddenly terrorist attack

>May's interview completely buried.

>"Suspends campaign" so she doesn't have to face the press.



Didn't every earlier poll show UKIP completely obliterated now that the Tories stumbled into executing the centrepiece of the UKIP platform?



The general region of the north you're talking about is the last major red stronghold in the UK.



>You could hear the cheers come from Conservative party HQ when they got news of this terrorist attack.

Wouldn't fucking surprise me



Reminds me of the Hungarian referendum on immigration.

>conservative ruling party (Fidesz) knew that not enough people would show up

>chance of another failed right-wing referendum

>they had to arouse interest

>every day 3-4 bomb alerts in the capital city

>"suspicious bags" left on benches, etc.

>finally someone actually bombs a street corner

>no casualties

>referendum happens

>not enough people show, it's invalid

>people got acclimatized to all the fake bomb alerts

>bomber turns out to be a native dude with mental issues





Seriously hoping it wasn't a muslim.




A man exploded, of course he was Muslim.


Am I dead inside or some shit. I'm mostly annoyed that I have to listen to people talk about this boring shit all day.



im the opposite, I usually jump on /pol/ when shit like this happens and watch the nonsense. But, maybe because I lived in MCR for 5 years, today I just feel quite sad about the whole thing. Bombing children man, is this the new normal?



I'm more annoyed at all the handwringing about them not having our impeccable moral standards when it comes to indiscriminate bombing campaign.



I think I'm just a very unemotional person about this kinda thing. I don't really know tbqh.


Maybe it's something like this. People die everyday, it doesn't really make a difference in my mind if they were down the road or across the world, I didn't know them any better. Might just be the depression meme though. |



This will almost certainly good them a boost….. we can always hope it was some sort of neo nazi but I really doubt that


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IMHO there is a large moral and practical difference between ‘’’’’allowing’’’’’ evil through ignorance/incompetence/indifference, versus ‘’’’’doing’’’’’ evil through willful approval/action. Equating the incidental death of innocent bystanders, to the intentional priority targeting of innocents, is absolutely reprehensible.

That said, my objection to this inanity is that terrorism is so far down the list of priorities, it's utterly dwarfed by the opportunity cost of all the hoo-rah we give it (not to mention that terrorism is primarily a symptom of other problems, so direct countermeasures are largely an inefficient use of resources against it).


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>People die everyday, it doesn't really make a difference in my mind if they were down the road or across the world, I didn't know them any better

I feel you. For pretty much my entire life the US has been at war with some tiny country or another, bombing indiscriminately and not giving a single shit about it. Just a year or two ago, the US flattened a Doctors Without Borders hospital in Afghanistan and absolutely nothing was done about it. So why should I muster a single fuck just because some Westerners get added to the body count?



>Equating the incidental death of innocent bystanders, to the intentional priority targeting of innocents, is absolutely reprehensible.

You are rapidly approaching memeball territory considering how many schools and hospitals we bomb every year.


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I mean, they aren't wrong.


Just realised the tories are gonna use this to push for even higher surveillance. Who's ready to get fucked in the name of "safety"?


Glad I'm not alone then. People will probably think you're a nutter if you say this though which is bizarre. I've just kept my mouth shut about it today so I don't piss off any co-workers.


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Compare the famines and (variously denied or covered up) genocides of modern nations, to the cheerfully acknowledged extermination campaigns of the colonial and pre-modern eras.

One of them is seen as a moral failing by its perpetrators and/or those who support them, and can be eliminated through simple practical reform. The other is seen as a core policy or even moral imperative, and is infinitely harder to overturn.

Even ignoring the massive gulf of depravity, that is a substantial practical difference.


So what is exactly wrong with /r/ukpolitics?



It's a politics subreddit, of which there are no good ones?



Yeah you've convinced me, if they want to play they should launch a military campaign against us and only bomb our civilians when a chunk of their multi-billion dollar arsenal accidentally hits a civilian target. Intent is very important to consider when you're killing hundreds of thousands of people.



Setting aside the political viability of terrorism as a whole for its purported goals, the effectiveness of targeting innocents is highly debatable:




what in tarnation


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what are the odds he was ira






do they not break election media rules with this shit. This is a new low for the sun



>tts software with a posh bong accent

Truly we live in marvelous times


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>Seriously hoping it wasn't a muslim.

They'll come for every kuffar, commie or not.



>salman abedi

Clearly one of those white supremist nazi fascist I have been hearing about in the media.




It's true though. Corbyn was an active IRA supporter.


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Media bias? where?



>Just a year or two ago, the US flattened a Doctors Without Borders hospital in Afghanistan and absolutely nothing was done about it. So why should I muster a single fuck just because some Westerners get added to the body count?

I don't think you honestly follow this line of logic. Just a year ago the Pakistani goverment killed civilians, yet you will care when neo-nazi's add a few paki's to the bodycount.

Leftist hatred isn't unspecified aloofness, though it is preferably presented as such.



But these frames are no doubt brass. The globe was more valuable than that. Didn't they have some autist to consult with?


Zero. None of their million offshoots stands to gain anything from this.



what the fuck are you on about?



So ya think this is gonna swing the election or something, ya nob?




There's always the chance of the media over-doing the demonization of the opponent and back-firing on them, just like with Trump.



Don't know - Corbyn must address these matters if he wants to have a chance.


I suppose the stormfags are going to go into maximum overshill about this


There's literally nothing wrong with supporting the IRA.



other than that they don't really exist anymore



Then embrace the highlighting by the media that Corbyn supported an organization with which there is nothing wrong.


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>supporting the IRA

>not the United Provisional Real Revolutionary Continuity Irish People's Liberation Army.







Seriously, even USSR and other socialist countries didn't negociate with death cults- jihad terrorist groups like Daesh.

>The British government should keep some form of diplomatic back-channel open to Isis



Loads of countries have contact details of terrorist group in the case of a kidnapping. It's really not that uncommon except it is very hush hush.




please stop LARPing



The limeys know!


How is there no countryball comic depicting ISIS campaigning for the Tories?



>i wonder why people hate expats so much

>it's not like their shiteating kids are voting for stuff they quite literally cannot know about



Because the last people ISIS would want are people who are saying they're going to reduce immigration?



I'm not an expat; I live in a crown dependency.



Do they, though?

Almost all of the terrorists are either British born or from the Commonwealth.



>neocons get in

>military adventurism that pours a tsunami of recruits into ISIS and some poz slurped up, because porky's gonna get those cheap scabs anyway they can

>shitlibs get in

>islamic pozloads pumped into western society and some military adventurism drives ISIS recruitment, because neolibs are also neocons at heart

Tories are better for ISIS, but this is pretty much a win-win scenario for them until actual populist candidates get a direct shot, instead of having to put up with shitheel intermediaries from the neolib/neocon parties.


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The question is, how aware is the public that Tories are currently as immigration-happy as it gets? Everyone always automatically assumes that a rightwing party will be tougher on immigration, but modern Western Europe most definitely bucks the trend, because the government is all Porky all the time.

If you're gonna make memes or slapfight on social networks, point out that Tories (and Merkel's rightwing party, for that matter) pushed hard for immigration.


>>1696889 You retarded moron. "Xenophobic" candidate elected=New recruits for ISIS, that's logical. If you have a person that you can demonize to make it look like she's the ennemy of muslims that'll mean more radicalization and more recruits.

Basically ISIS and the Police State are each other's useful idiots, they have a mutually benefitial relationship.



Another good one to point out is that while May has said she plans to reduce immigration to X number by 2020 or whatever but she want trying to do the same thing with no success when she was home secretary.


It was all going so great and then ISIS fuckers fucked everything. Why would they stop us from having a great left victory ? Why are they so inhuman ?



>Seriously hoping it wasn't a muslim

Why does this even matter? 22 kids just died you fucking psycho



Radical liberalism.



It would hurt the left


Corbyn should campaign for rigorous state atheism, closing of all religious schools, forced integration and a massive crackdown on Islamism.



Because it would require the left concede this point to the right. Since the left is essentially a hollow shell, theoretically and practically, giving one position would likely lead to a series of cascading failures that end in total theoretical annihilation. Furthermore, the left does not have the energy required to fill the shell with actual substance. That would actually require engaging with people, with their failures and resolving them.

Further symptoms of this disease would include

1) Accelerationism, which is merely opportunism (in the original sense) adapted to the 21st century.

2) Obsession with "reclaiming thinkers" such as Nick Land. The logic is that once these thinkers are shown to be really /ourguy/, one does not have to engage with his recent work or struggle with his actual actions. No, it is merely sufficient for this heroic individual to be on our side, since his symbolic status somehow negates the truth of his actual ideas. Somehow.






This guy gets it; ISIS and the basis of modern salafist terrorism is to make a clear divide between Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb. Forming a real life black and white divide for Muslims to follow. It's just like a Wahhabist rendition of dialectical materialism where they accelerate their ideals by being the change they want ie killing of heathens and global sharia.

When this divide between the "Islamic world" and the "western world" becomes unclear to Muslims; liberalism naturally occurs. Hence why you got gay Caliphs in the somewhat poly-cultural Umayyadi Córdoba Caliphate when the lines between 'the righteous muslim' and 'the filthy kuffur' no longer made sense when half of your neighbours were catholic, you spoke Spanish and you learnt pagan Greek philosophy from your Jewish teacher at school.



Al religions are reactionary, Islam especially so. There is literally nothing wrong with cracking down on religion.


>BREAKING: British PM May: Police have asked secretary of defense to deploy military to help fight terror threats.



>>1697661 Wasn't UK already a police state ?


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Corbyn about the attack



Despite my disagreement, I agree that religious schools should be completely abolished. The Muslim and Hasidic Jewish schools here are probably the worst since they encourage fierce segregation and some of the Jewish schools being flat out illegal and only teaching religious text. I don't agree with religion as anything larger than a local community.


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So then, was the bomber making a point about Western fun?


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>religious fundamentalists commit atrocities against secular humanism

>victims react by voting in religious fundamentalists

It's good cop, bad cop, isn't it?



>22 kids just died you fucking psycho

It was a mercy killing. The alternative was those kids growing up in the miserable wastelands of the UK, forced to slave away for decades while surrounded by politically apathetic retards who think East Enders and "footy" is the height of culture. Death is ethically neutral, while continued existence in this country is a very large negative.


Fuckin hell some people are idiots. Just saw a load of shit saying they should just monitor the internet of the muslims. Not only is that basically not possible but in the same thread someone was saying to just use tor or whatever. If you can do it so can they.



well then do us all a favour and off yourself, edgelord



>>victims react by voting in religious fundamentalists

ignoring that, if you atleast want to feel like whoever you voted in wants to stop terrorism, HAS to be some rightwing dufus,

its sad but "the lefts" alignment with those sjw, has hurt the stance of socialism a great deal



So what? Tens of thousands of people are going to die today. What makes these comfortable little crackers so special?



They were targeted.



man oh man, as to most people that die today, they had family and friends, children and grandchildren and all those people have to suffer now. I dont know why you cant grasp how killing random people is a bad thing.



And? Are all the victims in Yemen not being targeted? Or in Mosul? How many people today are going to die from drones? Am I supposed to weep for them all? Or are you some Yankee Candle shill trying to get me to buy up a bunch of votive candles?



I didn't say it wasn't bad dummy, I just don't see why I should care. The US has been occupying, invading, or fighting some some country or another for my entire life. What difference does twenty more bodies on the pile make?



>Am I supposed to weep for them all?

Yes, even if just a bit. This ability is what the spectacle has stripped from our souls.



>I didn't say it wasn't bad dummy,

>So what? Tens of thousands of people are going to die today. What makes these comfortable little crackers so special?

yes, you did, you even insulted the victims

>the US has been occupying, invading, or fighting some some country or another for my entire life.

and that is also something worth criticising, so whats your point?

>What difference does twenty more bodies on the pile make?

the pile is 20 bodys higher, obviously



>Yes you did

I guess there's no point in even talking to you any more since you can't even read

>You even insulted to victims

Again, and? So fucking what? Maybe if they had better taste in music they would be alive today.



>So what? Tens of thousands of people are going to die today.


>What makes these comfortable little crackers so special?




Call me when you approach something like an argument.



Oh sorry for carrying about an incident that happened in close proximity to me and resulted in the death of several innocent kids, next time I'll be sure to list every single ongoing conflict worldwide before daring to have an opinion.



I'm sure those corpses appreciate your butthurt moralism


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Not to be a colossal fag, but being angry at virtue-signalling politicians and their lackeys shouldn't get in the way of your own humanity.


I've just realized that Corbyn has a great opportunity to win by attacking the tories on their cuts to the police.



Did this work for Callaghan, who insisted on a functional British military, against Thatcher, who intended to sell the entire British government, including all the war materiel that she was lucky enough to have still had when the Falklands were invaded?



People are dumb. The torys are fucking dumbest though when it comes to the internet have you read the stuff they want to do with encryption, they have no idea how the real world works


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File: c389c58b02a3b90⋯.pdf (2.84 MB, SundayTimesResults_170512_….pdf)


Keep in mind that a good deal less people actually oppose Labour policies than than are merely indifferent to them. That graph only show the percentage that specifically approve of policies, this PDF is the full poll data.



>only 26% of people for a tax increase for businesses

Fuckin class cucks eh.

>only 35% for the dude weed

I still think labour should run with it just to secure that weed teen demographic.


>only 60% of Labour voters for increase in business tax

Still pretty small.



Not really, Adam Smith himself noted that if China suddenly disappeared into the abyss and everyone there died, people would feel a bit sad - probably genuinely - and then sleep soundly, but if they lost a finger they'd be devastated beyond consolement.

If anything the constant reminder that some people died somewhere is a bit spectacular in itself. Is it shit, I mean, yeah? Does it actually have any impact on me? Not really.


Despook me on Corbyn. I hear he's bretty good, but exactly how bretty?



Why would you want to increase the costs of hiring people? They want to destroy the economy just to fuck over immigrants?



> caring about the Sun

It's like looking into someone's colon and complaining that it's dirty there.


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Nice dubs comrade :D



There are 1.5 million unemployed people in this country already.

Maybe Porky ought to train some of them before importing a skilled migrant.



I heard UKIP say they want an exam system for schoolkids to encourage them to get into Trade jobs, not sure if the Tories picked it up


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Reserve pool of labour, anon.



Labour are promising an end to Saudi arms deals though

so they're literally the best choice if terrorism actually scares you



Lets hope this message manages to get out to the public



how do you meme something like that without exploiting tragedy though?


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How do we dispel the 'us vs them' mentality? It's such a simplistic view, such an easy pill to swallow so many kneejerkedly accept it, especially working class people, I hate to say. Just the other day I was in a taxi and the radio was on about the incident and the guy was all "we're at fookin war innit, we need to start taking it to their country" I shit you not he said "there's only one man who can fix this, Donald Trump". I didn't think there were people that retarded here, American-tier retarded. How are people so thick they don't realise interventionism just makes things worse, as proven time and time again? And abandoning all class interests in favour of reactionary parties who offer to be the strongman against terrorism.

I wish Corbyn would get all Nuremberg Rallies about it like he did with the Iraq War, we need this kind of energy behind an anti-interventionist message.



Find opponents exploiting the tragedy in reverse and jump down their necks.






Maybe the world isn't so bad afterall? Just kidding.


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>>1703114 Is he going to win ? Can he do it ? Is he doing it ?

By the ways, do you people here know his manifesto or support him without reasons ?



Any chance Lib Dems form a coalition or do they love Mummy May too much?



Manifesto was posted here ages ago and discussed at length. Some of that discussion is in this very thread


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>Jeremy "Diplomatic back channels to ISIS" Corbyn

>winning after Manchester

Only if it's revealed that Mummy May deliberately didn't stop the bomber.



Really makes you think about how bad May is, eh?





Could Corbyn take advantage of pointing out how May cut police numbers, etc, or will he bumble around this?



>The latest YouGov with CON led down to just 5% was carried out yesterday and today and so fully takes into account reaction to Manchester


Corbyn's anti Iraq War activism and anti imperialist credentials bode very well and will actually win people over. Even your numbest little Englander realises the war on terror is not working.



>He will also point to Labour manifesto commitments to reverse cuts to emergency services and put 10,000 more police on the streets.


briefing on jezza's speech tomorrow so yes



Mistake for Jezza to personally make a statement like that. This is the sort of thing you leave to others, so you don't seem "divisive" after such a tragic event.


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>MI5 knew about terrorist

>many complaints from local community to government about terrorist being dangerous

>government supported terrorist to go help fuck up Libya

>mummy May was Home secretary for the six years during which this happened



And here I thought his only hope was to go full tankie and start shitting on religion.



>Person who said iraq war would lead to disaster and increased terror a better option than people who were all for it and literally want to start a a new "war on terror" to purposely evoke 2003

No fucking shit.


Holy shit this is starting to luck possible guys.



I can tell you're young and in your early dawkins phase, because literally anyone who's lived through the original war on terror knows that shit is counter-productive.



You forget about the Shy Tory factor.



They've factored expected turnout into the polls this time by demographic group.



Shy tory factor is an old meme, and implies that voting tory isn't the assumed default be the culture and media. If anything it's more "embarrassing" to vote for "comrade Jeremy"



I didn't mean War on Terror, I meant Remove Kebab.



lol are like 17?



>all corbyn has to do to win is reverse his entire personality and all his positions a full 180



This poll adjusts for that anyway. So if it still exists May's still in deep shit and if it doesn't she might actually be losing lmfao


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Okay /leftypol/, you have a gun with two bullets and you're in a room with these three…



What would shooting Clinton accomplish at this point?



The catharsis of justice. For Seth.

May hasn't actually done anything yet, has she? So, Merkel.



honestly Merkel's party would just win again with someone way more to the right


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Maybe Corbyn should do one of these corny E-Sports team introduction videos that are played when they are about to play on the main stage.

They are corny as fuck, but they wouldn't do them if their market researchers said it will get them more views.



It's sad that voter's nowadays (not just millenials, that meme needs to die) only understand politics through pop-cultural references.


Can Jezza gulag The Sun editorial staff?



Yeah, but Rowling is a retard with a child's mind and is desperately trying to cling to the pre-teen and teen audiences after millennials grew up and grew out of her books. That's why she is constantly re-writing her characters for wokeness cred.




Weird. In our country, if you are a citizen, you are automatically allowed to vote for all coming elections ever.





Paul Dacre

JK Rowling

Dan Hodges



But of course.

Rowling was the main fundraiser for the "No" camp in the Scottish referendum. And soon she can do so again.

Also she wasted a lot of money in the #SaveLabour camaign against Corbyn, this time it clearly failed.

Her books no longer provide her income to maintain her lavish lifestyle. So she is shitting out a lot of books and movie rights recently. Also a theatre release and it wouldn't surprise me if we get a botched Harry Potter MMO soon.

I am not touching that new stuff, since I know that my money will be used against my interests. I only liked the first three tomes, before the romance plot tumour struck.

Why is One Piece the only work of fiction that gets this shit right?



This is absolutely true. Point to 3 things when taling to people about Manchester and the election.

1. Jezza was against invading Iraq.

2. Jezza was against invading Libya (Its come up that the kid who carried out the attack actually is directly connected to libyan rebels read terrorist fanatics who overthrew Quadaffi

3. Jezza wants to put more cops on the streets


I would shoot Clinton twice.


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Tony Blair

Rupert Murdoch

all Blairites

entire Tory party


>"To keep you and your family safe, our approach will involve change at home and change abroad. "At home, Labour will reverse the cuts to our emergency services and police. Once again in Manchester, they have proved to be the best of us. "Austerity has to stop at the A&E ward and at the police station door. We cannot be protected and cared for on the cheap. "There will be more police on the streets under a Labour Government. And if the security services need more resources to keep track of those who wish to murder and maim, then they should get them." "I want the solidarity, humanity and compassion that we have seen on the streets of Manchester this week to be the values that guide our government. "There can be no love of country if there is neglect or disregard for its people. "No government can prevent every terrorist attack. If an individual is determined enough and callous enough sometimes they will get through. "But the responsibility of government is to minimise that chance - to ensure the police have the resources they need, that our foreign policy reduces rather than increases the threat to this country and that at home we never surrender the freedoms we have won and that terrorists are so determined to take away."

some of Corbyn's speech tomorrow. entirely sensible.



But what about the tax cuts for the rich?



>Pottervere MMO comes into existence and is kept afloat by neckbeards lewding it up

>tfw Rowling has to avoid questions about living off her fans literally wanking over her created world



>Rowling has to avoid questions about living off her fans literally wanking over her created world

and i thought that was a thing patreons had to avoid



In time, people will probably just come to expect those with patreon accounts to be cartoon pornographers.



>Potterverse MMO comes out

>Get's hyped up as something akin to SWO and LotRO

>It's basically a Club Penguin ripoff


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The first ones in the Gulags will be the early naysayers.


>Corbyn will never run

>Corbyn will never get elected by the Labour members

>Corbyn will never find any frontbenchers

>Corbyn will never hold on to power

>Corbyn will never win re-election

>Corbyn will never win re-election with an increased majority

>Corbyn will never bring the party out of debt

>Corbyn will never sing the national anthem

>Corbyn will never come back from 25%

>Corbyn will never prevent the LibDems from becoming the new opposition

>Corbyn will never support Article 50

>Corbyn will never support a GE in 2017

>Corbyn will never support Trident

>Corbyn will never support hard Brexit

>Corbyn will never abolish tuition fees

>Corbyn will never fully cost his manifesto

>Corbyn will never breach 30%

>Corbyn will never win over the working class

>Corbyn will never win over Liberals

>Corbyn will never win over Conservatives

>Corbyn will never win over lost UKIP voters

>Corbyn will never bring his party ahead in approval ratings

>Corbyn will never gain after Manchester

>Corbyn will never rally the North

>Corbyn will never close the gap to 5%


>Corbyn will never breach 40%

>Corbyn will never force May to debate

>Corbyn will never breach 50%

>Corbyn will never win the general election

>Corbyn will never be PM

>Corbyn will never reverse tax and spending cuts

>Corbyn will never establish a National Education Service

>Corbyn will never renationalise the rails without compensation

>Corbyn will never federalise the UK

>Corbyn will never get a good Brexit deal

>Corbyn will never dismantle the EU

>Corbyn will never abolish the monarchy

>Corbyn will never declare himself Chairman

>Corbyn will never send the Tory press to the gulags


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>Corbin will never nationalize the banks

>Corbin will never turn all companies into co-ops

>Corbin will never increase british manufacturing

>Corbin will never give foreign aid to leftist revolutionaries

>Corbin will never decrees immigration

>Corbin will never decreer a socialist union of Britan

>Corbin will never lead an international leftist revolution

>Corbin will never declare a socialist world order

>Corbin will never send humans to establish space collides

>Corbin will never become socialist god emperor of the universe.


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Premier Corbyn will be in Downing!


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Just look at this smug motherfucker.



If ever there was a time to brigade a Sargon video


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it's fucking happening


guys there's a corbyn = nazbol thread on /pol/

is it happening


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