/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2612563

You got bad eyesight m8, his facial structure is too obvious.

>>2612563

They're cute tbh :3

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>Who is Qanon? Let's take the redpill and see how far the Rabbit hole goes…

Is this fucking peak boomer?

>>2612563

>Literally getting TRAPPED.Com

>>2612567

Pray this is as bad as it gets, anon.

>>2612567

That is definitely some HOW ARE YOU DOING FELLOW TEENS shit

>>2612521

>SocDem

>Likes Nixon

Is this some SocDem Gang Ironic meme i dont get

>>2612563

very cute

>>2612575

>Most trans girls don't want to have the sight of their own dick

What? how do they fug then :DDD?

>>2612535

>Why i joined a Defunct NeoCon Party that is now unrecognizable from the Tories because they already completed the single issue they Ran on

>>2612576

Nixon

1. was a real human being. despite being corrupt, paranoid, etc, it all comes across as a character trait and even to some extent justified I may or may not believe Kennedy cheated.

2. was economically to the left of all of his successors, although he kind of blew the chance to establish something better after breton woods exploded

so undoubtedly despite all the horrible things he did he's not on the same kind of full power HAET list you put someone like Tony Blair, someone who wasn't an evil man but a ''normal' lizard, someone with almost no redeeming features except the lingering possibility that so long as he retains corporeal form he may wind up behind bars.

perhaps: "Nixon wasn't good, but he was a good character"?

>>2612588

>>2612521

NIX WAS SALOTH SAR GANG!!!!

NIXON NEXT!!! NIXON NEXT!!!

>>2612596

I do still want a car under communism and I want to be able to drive it hard in the twisties too because that's fun, but that second thing is retarded.

>>2612575

I mean im not necessarily mad about it. Plus she probably lives miles away fron anyway.

>>2612601

You had a crush on someone you don't even personally know?

Geesh, and I thought I was dumb.

>>2612609

>Chasers

>>2612596

>socialism is when you ride the bus and go to jail

>>2612624

Literally just walk, bike, take the tram/bus, or if you have to, carpool. It's a lot more efficient that way; you get to save more oil, the air is cleaner, and you aren't making all these big-ass mines all over the place to get resources to fuel all these machines.

>>2612509

Not that enlisting in an imperialist army is a solution, but Palestine isn't what I'd call a success case. And while Vietnam is, I'd rather the revolutionary or people's army be well-trained enough so they and the populace won't have to die by the millions accross decades. Fighting an asymmetrical guerrilla war sucks shit, even by bellic standards.

>>2612516

Well they have a long tradition of using striking workers for target practice.

>>2612535

Lest we forget, the snake oil he peddles actually does contain soil.

>>2612567

I confess I stayed away from this Qanon shit. I just googled it, and the very first sentence in the first "#QAnon conspiracy theory explained" article I click is "The Russia investigation is a sham." Well then.

>>2612621

Stasi and straight into furnaces.

>>2612599

Car ownership is environmentally irresponsible, and shits up city traffic. So off-roads only.

>>2612632

This. When I go biking out all I see are these neurotic carfags that hate everything and everyone, they have the worst attitudes. They're loud, dangerous, and if it's rained recently they splash water all over you – no such problems at all with pedestrians or bicyclers.

>>2612632

I don't want it for transportation, I specifically want it for fun. It's fine if it's outside of the city, as long as I can die by slamming into a tree at 70 miles an hour sideways I'm good.

>>2612637

Ehh, you're basically describing banger racing and that's not really my thing. The important part here is that a lot of people see cars as a thing that need to go in their totality and I think that's a little bit of a hard pill to swallow for people like me who absolutely love the things.

I get that it along with recreational gun ownership are seen as outdated and reactionary amongst a lot of people nowadays but they can have value and work well in a communist society once they are uncoupled from the bourgeois aspects of the hobbies.

>>2612638

We're all for proving entertainment and fun, even for suicidal adrenaline junkies.

We're just all about the urban, and cars are getting fucking banned in cities, though.

>>2612640

Oh yeah 100%, urban planning would be infinitely easier were the road car not a thing. That's pretty much a given.

Now the old mountain roads that are no longer necessary thanks to renewed funding for trains and other forms of mass transit…

I feel bad for the socialist leader that has to explain to Americans why commodities and cheap trinkets and toys aren't a priority over things such as infrastructure.

>>2612643

If you want to roleplay Fury Road and shout "Witness!" a lot, we won't stop you.

>>2612646

Bless you, friend.

>>2612649

> If I prefer fat girls am I a "plump seeker"?

I believe the term is "chubby chaser"

>>2612621

To be a bit serious hear: the only way to get rid of them is to radicalize the situation. The more radicalized it is, the more people choose a side, and the moment bullets start flying, there will be no liberals because whomever stays in the middle of a street gets run over by a tank.

>>2612642

What I wouldn't give to knnow who's behind this. I wouldn't be surrprised if it turned out to be weev yet again.

>>2612649

Usually, the reason people are uncomfortable with 'chasers' is an implied disingenuous aspect to it. You referenced chubby chasers - one of the more common things you'll hear about liking fatter women is 'well they'll do anything man, they're wild' which is not a very respectful way to desire another human being. Likewise, it's entirely possible to desire a relationship with a trans person because a lack of confidence may lead to them 'trying harder' in the relationship if you will, and a lot of people would consider that an unhealthy way for a relationship to work but if you're specifically looking for that then you're unlikely to correct that issue.

I've been in a relationship with a trans woman so don't take this as me saying no cis person can even be in a relationship with a trans person for the right reasons, just keep in mind that if you're specifically saying 'I want this' people are going to ask why you want it.

Also this doesn't cover the other, larger aspect which is that many trans people want to be treated as the gender they're trying to pass as and if you're attracted to them not passing then that's a core problem with your relationship that may be hard to solve.

>>2612653

Ive got Half a Mind that its a Literal PsyOP by some Alphabet soup agency or NeoCon think tank

It (Q) Calls for Regime Change in Iran the DPRK and Syria Regularly

Why is it that leftists support the rights of monopolistic megacorporations to work in tandem to deplatform some loon that the establishment media doesn't like?

>>2612665

Socdems are opportunists and don't care about buddying up with giant corporations because they know when it comes time to censor the left hard it'll only hit the commies and not them.

>>2612666

It'll hit anyone who doesn't sing the tune of the political and media establishment.

>>2612655

>If I prefer fat girls am I a "plump seeker"?

we call them chubby chasers

(i don't know who we is, i've never said the phrase aloud in my life.)

>>2612665

you don't have to support it to reverse the arguments they were using when it was your guy (or more normally, some guy who isn't a cunt who talks about old radios or something) getting censored.

these are the dickheads who will justify censorship on private property grounds at all times except when they think they can blame the left for that censorship. ideally by repeating their own logic back to them they'll realise it was fucking stupid, but failing that it's an easy strategy to bait them into giving you (you)s because you're literally just repeating their arguments, they did all the legwork.

>>2612666

socdems don't need to care because the only people still publishing socdem ideas are australian post keynesian bloggers. even communists get token publication space where someone wants to be cute and seek a radical outsider opinion. nobody has time for the boring truths of aggregate demand.

>>2612668

we (in this case "we" are the left) are already being hit or being ignored. we therefore have nothing to fear from others being hit. sit back and watch.

but in the alternative analysis, this is just another short term spectacle. nobody will be talking about alex jones losing his channel 2 months from now, we'll have moved onto the next thing. the life cycle of spectacular events is declining faster than that of the nazis from 1941 to 1943

>>2612659

Dunno, the American government is too fragmented for an alphabet soup agency to just brownnose a president like that. They would rather keep their usual skullduggery in foreign lands separate from internal affairs. Don't shit where you eat and all that. Besides, this has been really low budget, for all we know it might be a single person with above-average writing skills. The potential suspects list is quite literally "half the entire world".

>>2612670

>"Passing" is pure bullshit, and it is unhealthy for both cis women, by reinforcing societal roles and stereotypes of femininity, and for trans women, by making them want to achieve beauty goals that are only achievable through a lot of pain and money; it's no wonder many of them are emotional wrecks doing sex work.

I agree 100% with that, but that is at least the current place where trans discussion is at and so if that's what the person you're interested in is going for it has to be something you respect.

Luckily some of that seems to be going by the wayside, a lot of my friends aren't interested in passing and instead want to find the right identity for themselves that lets them express how they feel, but that's still not going to be everybody and you shouldn't be surprised when the mainstream discussion on trans issues isn't all the way there yet.

>>2612674

I don't give a shit where the discussion is at, I'm concerned with me and the girls I'm dating.

Making trans girls feel good under the sheets and present them to your family with a plate of lasagna, that's true revolutionary praxis.

>>2612670

>No one finds genders sexy

They can find genders a sex unsexy tho. I find the male form to be downright heinous. There's only aesthetic merit to ottermode, and even then there's no sex appeal.

>>2612665

Hi, welcome to /leftypol/. Liberals aren't leftists, but rather Porky's left hand.

Some people have been saying for a while now that their constant appeals for censorship will bite them in the ass someday, but they never listen. In no small part, that's because they're largely apparatchiks anyway and will never deviate from the mainstream range of acceptable ideas.

>>2612677

>the girls I'm dating.

DAT'S DEGENERRRRRRRRRATE

I'm not sure why communists nowadays are totally fine with sexual deviancy derived from mental illness. What you are dating is not a girl, it's a fucking man who thinks he's a girl and you are gay.

>>2612683

I'm gay and I like man ass so I'm good either way bruh

>>2612681

Alot of the pro corporate censorship stuff is coming for literal socialists, progressives, and even reddit AnComs.

>>2612683

Truth

>>2612683

Based and redpilled tbh.

>>2612685

That's totally fine dude, I just have a problem with people trying to guilt trip me into pretending like sex is irrelevant and that gender can be whatever you want it to be. I doesn't make any sense.

>>2612691

Hey, if you're not comfortable with certain types of people that's fine, you don't need to go on a grand quest to make people feel bad for being those types of people though.

Tell me there's an active leftypol discord please

>>2612692

Well the grand quest is coming from them trying to force everyone to use their newspeak when it comes to pronouns. And if me saying that I don't think that a trans person is the sex or gender they claim to be and that makes them feel bad then tough shit.

>>2612686

Yeah, like I said, liberals. I know, it seems like a cop-out, but hear me out. Historically, a lot of people claiming themselves to be socialists ended up fighting against it because they were actually too moderate, all the way back to the Russian Revolution.

The word "socialism" has been completely diluted, in no small part because the Overton window in America is so far to the right that people think anyone who supports UHC must have socialist leanings, and liberals embraced the epithet. Reddit is a particularly good example, where you have supposed ancoms and MLs behaving like idpol-addled SJWs, and autoban you fur using "fatphobic slurs" or some shit.

There's also that Ocasio-Cortez lady. Sure, she's way to the left in the American spectrum, but in her victory speech she thanked just about every identity group and organization under the sun before mentioning actual class entities. Not a good sign. Hell, even Elon Musk claimed to be a socialist.

I'm pretty over this "hey, leftists, you should totally rush to the defense of right wing pundits to defend the free speech they pretend to care about to give pretext to their talking points even though they haven't nor will they ever reciprocate." concern trolling or whatever you want to call it. first the "gas the jews" dog guy, then the twitter purge, then the gun tutorial youtube thing (which turned out to be nothing) and now Alex Jones. It's almost the exact same statement with the same answers every time. meanwhile pretty much every socialist news outlet has a banner talking about how they're being blocked on google.

>>2612697

It's a pretty simple fact actually.

Benis? = Man

Vagine? = Woman

Benis+Vagine? = Intersex

Some chemical imbalance in your brain doesn't change any of that.

>>2612698

I'm confused as to why you're a leftist when the concept of doing something completely effortless to make people's lives slightly more manageable is too much effort for you.

the progressive party line on gender and sex seems incoherent

>gender is a spook and we should deconstruct it

>but gender is also important because there are gendered differences in the brain, and some people are born into the wrong body

>men and women are the same, more women in tech!

am I being a silly reductionist, or have liberal progressives really not examined their own stance with any rigor

>>2612703

Learning a bunch of retarded pronouns and remembering which one applies to whom is not effortless.

I have less of a problem calling someone who believes they are the opposite gender in the manner they prefer but gender neutral pronouns are cancerous bullshit.

>>2612707

It's a bit of lack of self-examination, but also you misunderstanding a lot of it.

Deconstructing gender is a longterm goal that will likely not happen under capitalism, so in the meantime doing some white lie shit about trans people and sexuality and so on is necessary to get the results desired (ie avoiding people being murdered for being different). The thing liberals will never, ever mention is that, yes, societal pressures are likely responsible for a good part of gender and sexual identity issues but they can't push that stance because the instant you do, conservatives will hear 'you can cure the gay' and things get really nasty.

As for the last bit, generally equal capabilities between men and women means that you should expect generally equal distribution in fields where they are capable of the same results which is admirable but a bit utopian tbqh m80

>>2612709

but

you just used gender neutral pronouns in telling me about how cancerous it is

>>2612700

The same censorship policy being used against the right can and will be applied to the far-left. You don't have to defend them but it's in your self-interest not to want mega-corporations to have the kind of power to mass deplatform anyone they don't like on behalf on the political and media establishment.

>>2612712

'They' is a plural pronoun. Using it to refer to a single person is some newspeak bullshit and i'll have none of it.

>>2612721

You just used it as a singular pronoun. You used it to describe a singular, theoretical person you may talk to in the future who you don't know the gender of. In the same sense, you likely use it when someone talks about someone that you cannot instantly recognize by name if they're a boy or a girl - guess what, that's singular too! You already use it in all the contexts you need to! All you need to do is when someone says 'I prefer they' just think to yourself 'oh I don't know if I should use he or she so I'll use they'. That way you can keep your retarded ideology and still not seem like an asshole to the rest of the world!

>>2612715

>cure is transition

The cure should be something that cures the chemical imbalance in the brain that causes the person to believe they are something they are objectively not. Enabling their delusion by giving them hormones and mutilating their genitals is hardly a "cure" and this is seen in post-op suicide rates.

>>2612724

Alright fair enough but I'm still not on board with the Xir/Xim nonsense.

>>2612728

Sure, you don't have to be on board with that because that's primarily 14 year old tumblrites who you will never interact with in the regular world. Thank you for at least giving things some consideration dawg.

>>2612715

>I dunno, I thought it was fairly clear: gender is a social construct, but none of the less have tangible effects on our daily lives and are, at least partially, based on instinct.

I think this is precisely where there is a bit of sleight goes on.

>'gender' refers to the social and cultural differences between men and women

is vastly different from:

>'gender' refers to social differences between men and women (which are of course caused by culture and spooks)

How can you post Stirner when we can clearly see that our behavior is affected by for example, sex hormones. The empirical case that there is some sexual dimorphism of the brain could not be more clear.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience_of_sex_differences

>>2612720

> can and will be applied to the far-left.

the point of my post is that it has. they're mutually exclusive things it not like "allowing"

the right to be censored created the conditions to censor the left. it would happen regardless.

>but it's in your self-interest not to want

meaning what? if you said allow I would ask how anyone could possibly stop these institutions that have a virtual monopoly on Internet traffic, but you said "want" as If not making a performance out of complaining about something you can't change happening to someone you don't like is why you can't change it. or that you can only express true dissatisfaction with corporate censorship by complaining about it happening to the right instead of socialists, as part of some performance for their benefit.

>>2612738

no need to sage leftytrash it's all equally shit posts

>>2612720

they've always had that power, that's the misconception at the heart of this.

>>2612734

Saying that you disapprove of censorship on principle isn't rushing to the defense of conservatives. Allowing Alex Jones or whoever to spout their BS isn't necessarily a defense of them when whatever process that is allowing them to speak is also allowing you to speak.

>>2612741

Well maybe they shouldn't have that power. The question then for me is how to reign them in and I don't have a clear answer to that yet.

nuclear take

>>2612756

no we just need to organize by category

>>2612756

Imperialism is not capitalism so this infograph won't work. Imperialism will still exist even if the entire world is communist because resource scarcity will still exist and humans are not perfect animals that will share everything perfectly, especially not between different nations.

>>2612732

sexual dimorphism and neurological explanations aren't enough to reduce fairly complex, historically contingent matters of identity and culture down to biology. also read althusser or something idk

>>2612701

if you castrate someone then suddenly he's no longer a man? what if he has erectile dysfunction? are nursery homes secretly transcult recruitment centers?

>>2612740

i'm just trying to use the sage as if it was bright coloring on a poison frog

>>2612764

He's genetically a man and was born with a dick. Him losing it or having it no longer functional doesn't magically make him a female or something else.

>>2612746

>Saying that you disapprove of censorship on principle isn't rushing to the defense of conservatives

and coincidentally expressing that opinion in the context of alex jones is what? Pretending for a moment that any of these people wouldn't censor leftists upon gaining serious influence (or right now through assorted methods like the mass flagging of videos) or that leftist aren't being censored right now, what would any socialist stand to gain by complaining about alex jones getting his channel shut down that they wouldn't achieve by just complaining about socialist being censored? Besides that why should any of these assorted corporations care? they're under absolutely no obligation to capitulate to either parties since: 1.) they aren't moral or "principled" actors and gain nothing by being seen as giving a platform to racists (or anyone perceived as racist or really anything advertisers don't like) 2.) can effectively dictate discourse at their leisure and gain nothing from ceding any power to anyone. how would that work practically? if enough people complain someone's going to draft up some legislation that places protect speech laws on internet services or anything to limit corporate power at all?

>>2612756

Everything is capitalism, so every dead is capitalism, so communism will grant us eternal life.

This quasi-religious conceptualization of "capitalism" as a wrathful spirit/god among is a highly interesting development. We need more research on it, maybe Peterson is on to something after all with his theory of archetypes.

>>2612760

Life is intrinsically cannibalistic, something marxists state over and over again but are never willing to accept. Their fantasy of communism blinds them to that what they believe in more than anyone.

>>2612764

>if you castrate someone then suddenly he's no longer a man? what if he has erectile dysfunction? are nursery homes secretly transcult recruitment centers?

What makes a man, a man, can never be a condition that is to be added and retracted. If being a man, means having a penis, than the penis would be the man, same goes for hormones, chromosomes or any other reducible factor. This however does not lead to the SJW conclusion, for if there is no man and no woman, other than self-identification, there would be no meaning to that identification and hence no such thing as transgenders either.

>>2612767

What makes something, something, instead of something else?

>>2612779

Everything is capitalism when it's convenient for you. When it's not, it's not real capitalism.

>>2612747

literally socialism

>>2612777

the underlying justification would be a "first they came for X and i did not speak out…" situation.

but here's the fun thing: then as now, the socialists are the first to go.

so we're in a situation as follows:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me, the internet racist—and all the socialists rushed to my aid because they object to censorship on principle and i was so humbled by this that i waited a whole 15 minutes before making a video denying they ever came for the jews.

>>2612798

Miserable

I've seen the argument several times now that trans women don't need to try and look like girls to be considered women- and if gender roles/norms are a social construct is this not a paradox?

>>2612800

>the bible is true, read the bible

Classic.

>>2612805

Darn

What happened anon?

>>2612801

>then as now, the socialists are the first to go

Then why doesn't internet inc ban socialists? Why don't they crack down on socialist speech?

>>2612811

Socialist publishers are suppressed all the time in America

>>2612806

That's the central contradiction of SJW'ism; that you are whatever you feel like and that whatever you feel like is due to oppression. This is why they never are and never will be satisfied, why the more they get what they want, the more hysterical they get. It's ideological anorexia (it's no coincidence many feminists are former anorexics)

>>2612809

My dreams are still dead

>>2612818

>social justice warrior-ism

>>2612813

Even if true, that doesn't answer my question. Why does internet inc take greater offense to Alex Jones, than to socialists openly advocating for the liquidation of the very people that run internet inc? Shouldn't it be precisely the other way around according to socialist theory?

>>2612815

Remove your flag NOW.

>>2612825

how do we quantify this apparently greater offence

>according to socialist theory?

ah yes marx's famous treatise on the youtube comment section, my favourite part of the manifesto.

>Gavin "Owning the Libs epic Style by getting my wife to leave me" McGuiness just got kicked of Twatter

Based Capitalists with smiley face sticker on top

>>2612827

To be happy

To be human

To create

I don't even know any more

>>2612825

>Why does internet inc take greater offense to Alex Jones

I don't know by what metric you can measure offense since both are being censored, but in a hypothetical where socialist weren't being censored the obvious answer would be that Alex Jones has enough influence to be considered a hindrance to ad revenue when compared to the less popular socialist pundits.

>>2612842

should I text her? I'd be happy to just form a close friendship with her, even if it doesn't grow into something more. She's a lefty, likes the same vidya and music as me and I'm sure we have more in common. Her speaking to me today was so out of nowhere but I don't want to jump to conclusions that she wants to be friends or anything.

>>2612836

I'd say you're somewhat correct, Alex Jones triggers the super-ego in a way that a maoist arguing for a new revolutionary terror simply does not. This isn't a question of scale, as many smaller channels are also being banned for hate speech. Corporations and business in general are contrary to marxist belief, followers to ideology, completely beholden to the outrage machine.

Xir the journalist is triggered after seeing a video, xir writes about it, fellow xir's write about the triggeredness of xir, others respond, this reponse is seen as proof of widespread p.roblematicness, wikipedia cites the xir's that cite xir and so it becomes fact. Case in point; the labour antisemitism witch hunt.

>>2612840

You have everything lose in a game that you don't even know the rules of. Of course you are terrified.

>>2612838

>You are avoiding the question

I promise I'm not. In fact I was pretty direct.

>Why isn't internet inc actively banning socialists and socialist speech?

You clearly see that they are being censored, but in a different way (unless you'd like to explain who it's not censorship?). so the question is why use different methods? The banning of Alex Jones benefits from it's performative nature it's a clear message to the user base and more importantly he moneyed interests involved: that's it safe for the brands to be associated with their services.

>>2612849

>You clearly see that they are being censored, but in a different way (unless you'd like to explain who it's not censorship?). so the question is why use different methods?

A site being backtracked by google's algorithms is by all means incomparable to an outright blanket ban like we see here.

>The banning of Alex Jones benefits from it's performative nature it's a clear message to the user base and more importantly he moneyed interests involved: that's it safe for the brands to be associated with their services.

Quite right, marxism is safe for the corporations, Alex Jones is not.

>>2612853

>>2612844

Just fucking text mate

>>2612858

>A site being backtracked by google's algorithms is by all means incomparable to an outright blanket ban like we see here.

then end result is less eyes on the "content". they're functionally identical. Besides that there's a difference in character between Alex Jones and some random internet socialist. it's pretty easy to justify banning Alex Jones. They're might not be some major socialist insurrection but it it's not so low that you could cook up a reasonable lie that people would believe that would justify the out right banning socialist and just admitting it's ideological and/or due to ads won't help either. so quietly starving them of ad revenue is the most sensible choice

>>2612865

>then end result is less eyes on the "content". they're functionally identical.

They're not, much like a book burning isn't identical to a book not being placed in the prime spot of a library.

>Besides that there's a difference in character between Alex Jones and some random internet socialist. it's pretty easy to justify banning Alex Jones. They're might not be some major socialist insurrection but it it's not so low that you could cook up a reasonable lie that people would believe that would justify the out right banning socialist and just admitting it's ideological and/or due to ads won't help either. so quietly starving them of ad revenue is the most sensible choice

But they're capitalist corporations in a capitalist society, which supposedly uses people like Alex Jones to drive people away from the true path of socialism according to socialists.

>>2612870

>the prime spot of a library

a bad a analogy since books are organized by subject and thus has no prime spot. besides that if you can't find a book in the place it's supposed to be most people would assume it's not their. Though I guess in this analogy they couldn't find it in a directory before they looked

>But they're capitalist corporations in a capitalist society, which supposedly uses people like Alex Jones to drive people away from the true path of socialism according to socialists.

what are you even saying? that social media services should keep him around as some kind of buttress against socialism despite the fact they they gain from ditching him, there's hundreds of thousands like him that serve the same purpose (they're a re clearly still conservatives on social media), and they are all ready managing socialism as it is? Actually let's say that is the purpose that he serves the question still remains: why keep him specifically? you could just as easily maintain a "garden" of conservative/centrist pundits that you make a show of pruning if they get a little to gnarly with their rhetoric and have your cake both ways. you could foster pro-capitalist or at least anti-communist sentiment and benefit from the good will of silencing the least desirable pundits.

Drag him Phil

>>2611519

It Makes me Genuinely sad to Remember Uncle Ho never lived to see the Final fall of Saigon and his idea of a Federal Republique of Indochina Come to pass...

Ignore the flag

>Erdo in Reaction to US sanctions against Turkey

>"We dont need Dollars weve got Allah!"

Thoughts?

Inb4 IslamoNazBolGang

>>2611808

>"Hey MR SAA man i know im Literally just some motherfucker who walked in off the street and im from one of the countries fucking you over right now but i love Assad and the Eyranians and Kim Jong Un so can i join you"

Hey fun getting SAVAK tier Interrogated for being a MI6 agent

>>2612838

>The bible is true because I read it in the bible. And the bible is a book, which gives it a +5 rationality stat.

You're doing a lot of mental gymnastics to avoid reading a book for once in your life.

>>2612877

I think you're pointing out Chomsky, who makes coherent arguments and points out things like how the US supported and still supports the vast majority of dictatorships in the world. What, "communist dictators" are you talking about exactly?

>while an actor that jokes about someone being akin to a monkey is made an unperson to the point of being retro-actively purged.

So basically what you're saying is this actor dindu nuffin and shouldn't face the repercussions of his actions?

>>2612877

>Professors who support socialism are Media Darlings

I wish that was true /pol/

>The Unfunny Boomer news hour on American politics called "Planet America" which airs on our Public broadcaster (Australian Broadcasting corp) is now literally name dropping 4c / 4/pol/ / Qanon and is showing 4/pol/ "Q" posts as epic jokes lol XD

Holy fuck kill me now

Please Xi just send the fucking PLA in and end it pls

Fucking christ

>>2612923

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBLdQ1a4-JI&feature=youtu.be&t=12

>>2612974

>she 'wants' to talk

that was supposed to be italic 8chan! Why you do this?

>Channel thats basically Aut-Right Alex Jones and also has a bunch of Ecology and cooking shit on it

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=NJe80JfDwDg

>Some Pregnant woman showing how to cook Liver and making sure to really show off shes pregnant n

>Comments

<"FUCK ILL FUCKING DIE FOR YOU MUH WYATT QUEEN!!!"

<"Good your Pregnant more gorgeous WHITE CHILDREN!!"

<"Good More WARRIORS FOR ODIN AND THOR!!!!"

<"Your a Aryan goddess and i Hope you have Many More wonderful Aryan Children

I know its a Personal attack and not an attack on their ideas but seriously does anyone else get a "iffy" vibe from people who post shit like this?

Why do all these people seem to have weird Natal Obsessions / Fetish's?

>>2612700

I think the bestresponse is to dick them over using their own standards. "They're corporations exercising their right to do what they want with their private property, breh? You don't like it? You some crypto-commie or sumthin?" I know, these same corporations will eventually do are already doing the same against the left, but that was absolutely inevitable. What wasn't inevitable was them holding reactionaries to the same standards. The fact that Porky is not giving them a free pass for once is a surprising improvement of affairs.

But I'll have to disagree on the dog salute guy. It's a whole other ballgame when it's the State doing this shit, especially so when it's something so minor. I mean, how in God's name can the British courts honestly say that a dog trick promotes anti-semitism? There isn't a single person on this gay Earth with the proper number of chromossomes who would move an inch towards the right by viewing that dog video. It's a terrible pecedent if I ever saw one.

>>2612705

Where did you search? Book piracy doesn't have many places to search.

>>2612703

He probably doesn't mean simply transexuals, but attentionsexuals.

>>2612712

Gender has already been thoroughly deconstructed. It's a postmodern (yes, seriously) spook created by a disgraced doctor. What you're referring towards is "sex".

Fuck Poland tbh.

>>2612990

Yeah theyve got quite a few more vids Ranting about Wyatt kids or whatever

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=NlIVV7Z2Ay0

Theyve also got a odd amount of Vids shilling for Flemish Sepratism which seems contradictory to the whole "No more Brother wars" shit they go on about

These people are basically Varg if he had a good production but the Trade off was he was less REDpilled

>>2612801

There was some altist video on YT going "first they came for conservatives…"

>>2612840

It means she's glad to see you and it's okay to contact her. You have fretted all this time for nothing while you could have talked to her. The ball is on your court now, don't waste the oportunity.

>>2612842

>I suggest you to regulate yourself if you are failing at having a human schedule for your body.

>

>Aka sleep 6-8 hours, 3 foods a day, no excess in sugar or fats or wathever, workout regularly at least 1 hour a day, etc.

>

>A healthy lifestyle helps a lot to your stem and mood.

That's nice and all, but there's a glaring ommission of why. You stated the maintenance, not a purpose.

>>2612895

He'll change the lira's name to allah and every muslim in the world will want to buy big bloody handfuls, making it the strongest currency in the world.

>>2613001

It's almost as if the mods didn't sperg out and deleted the discussions every time people would read the threads and learn something, and not having the same points being discussed over and over again.

>>2612975

In a few months HUEland will have a presidential election, and it's a shitshow what with the main candidate, a pseudo-leftist ex-president, having been pre-couped thanks to a suspiciously fast-tracked trial, yet still having a chance of participating. His absence wouldn't be so bad if not for the fact the entire rest of the roster being even worse. So after subverting the farcical democracy that he bandies about as the sole legitimating factor of his rule, what does Porky do? Why, he declares fake news to be the biggest threat to free elections. The section of the Judiciary branch in charge of overseeing solely electoral cases has openly said it prepared itself to fight "fake news" – in English just like that – as the number one issue for this election. And to tell you the truth, I half-expect Russian hackers to be brought up after it's over.

>>2613018

Well i alwas heard HueLand was the America of the global south…

>>2613031

That really was one of the most on-point allegories I ever read.

>>2613039

Through some luck I've found the original thread: https://8ch.net/leftypol/res/2535472.html#2543706

Also there's a guy saying Brazil is what Russia woulda been without the october revolution, which is equally valid for me.

>>2613006

>tfw communism with JDM characteristics

I would like to own a car under communism even though I don't even have one now. I can't justify it for just "fun" considering how much they cost and the fact I don't need one.

>Chomsky is generally well respected by people all over the spectrum but Socialists disavow him because he isn't a ☭TANKIE☭

>same with Sanders, Cortez, etc

let's face it, we're never going to fucking win if we keep up like this. I admit the latter aren't socialists but my God how are we helping the world by actively lashing out against them?

>>2613166

is the road to socialism in America not through Socdems, demsoc and so on? How do you expect to get the American population to accept socialism if they can't even wrap their heads around welfare states.

>>2613245

I've tried to hate you Anon, but I can't fake it anymore. You're cute, you're cute as shit.

>>2613252

N-no u

You are all pretty adorable as well Anon

>>2613091

Brazilian reactionaries are really a species of their own because of the sheer variety of strains of regressive "ideas" to which they have been exposed and incorporated. Mixed-race reaction, as it were. Instead of gulags, they should be put in preservations. Completely isolated from the outside world and with high-perched observatories at the margins so anthropologists can study them, of course.

>>2613166

Not that anything listens to me – nor that I should be listened to – but as far as my knowledge goes, when in such a state of so few in numbers and marginalized by the mainstream, the course would boil down to "street presence". The average person will never see us on TV or newspapers, so we have to be in his workplace and around town. I hesitate to use the word "publicity" due to the connotation with marketing that it now has, but it's about being viewed by the public eye and to be recognized. Let people know we exist and, here's the key, let them know the left doesn't boil down to Stalin and his estranged successors. At the very minimum, besides offering alternatives other than the old party-State/nationalized economy combo, we have to put away the hammer and sickle and other old aesthetics and symbols. They're too memetically loaded, even at it's most basic; the sickle represents a class that is bound to cease to exist in a matter of decades, and the hammer stands for one that is mostly confined to Asian sweatshop nations, whereas in the West, everything from the lower-middle calss downwards has been melded into a debased precariat. More than ever, the left should concern itself not just with the plight of the worker, but the human condition in general, because reactionaries and capital are growing increasingly inhumane.

>>2613208

Historically, half-measures have not only not led towards socialism, but away from it. The reason is actually simple: the left demands a better world that can and should exist by now, but the owners of the world deliver just enough to get most of the people to stop squealing, like they always did. Demanding a bare minimum is pointless because that's all they have ever yielded, long before the left has existed; moderation is not just self-defeating, but wholly redundant. The only solution is to stop demanding and instead take everything.

>>2613354

>The only solution is to stop demanding and instead take everything.

okay, but how do you propose that happens in America? You can talk about revolution all you want, it's a pipe dream.

>>2613356

He would probably be amazed at the lengths Burgerland went to so communism wouldn't spread.

>>2613354

>More than ever, the left should concern itself not just with the plight of the worker, but the human condition in general, because reactionaries and capital are growing increasingly inhumane.

This. With the exception of the poor areas of the third world, most of the damaged caused by capitalism is spiritual. Estranged neighbors, dysfunctional families, depression and lack of hope is far more familiar to most people than authority abuse and hunger.

>>2613356

I mean, he was part of the problem. A democratic, decentralized soviet union coulda lasted far longer.

>>2613372

> democratic, decentralized soviet union coulda lasted far longer.

wouldn't have even survived the civil war

>>2613372

>democratic

https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/5skve6/how_soviet_citizens_shaped_the_their_constitutions/

>decentralized

Khrushcev undertook decentralization reforms and it only contributed to the USSR's demise by reducing 5-year plans to helpful suggestions. Decentralization is nice as a concept but requires specific material conditions that just haven't been met under Stalin.

>>2613385

Also good luck democratically deciding that people need collectivization. Sometimes the best things for people are the ones they'll hate to do themselves, or would think are wrong otherwise because they're just plain unknowledgeable.

>>2613372

>>2613391

READ PENILEPROJECTILE

>>2613394

I can't dispute that, but I must ask, then how do we decide that people need collectivization? Or in general, how do we establish before the fact which of these "things" are unpleasant but for the better, and which are just plain unpleasant?

>>2613397

>gets pushed by leftists in the west who don't want to appear authoritarian.

Because it's completely pointless for a Western leftist to stress that they are not a neo-Soviet. Right.

>>2613382

Decentralization is key for survival. The US always easily crushed and corrupted soreign military powers, like Iraq and Korea. But when you have decentralized groups, all of the sudden the world's biggest power can't hold it's own against ak-47's and sandals.

Obviously the material conditions weren't there at the time, but that coulda, and shoulda, been fixed. There's no good reason why the industry had to be confined to mostly the west of Russian and Ukraine. There's no good reason to leave vast amounts of territory, like Siberia, deserted.

Also about the democratic part: the way people act when receiving orders is very different from the way they when they decided of their own volition. There's a reason why most countries on earth dropped conscription in favor of voluntary assignment, and it wasn't because of human rights.

>>2613394

Collectivization was supported by millions of peasants, stop believing that Stalin and his evil cadres decided it for themselves

>>2613408

The leader would just think about it, hopefully rightly. In the case of collectivization, a few million dying is a tradeoff for many millions more living much longer lives because imaginably, people with adequate food with live longer. The way this is supposed to go is one or a few leaders in a row establish this sort of self-awareness in the people and then dissolve the state so that they may decide on their own affairs, because having such a high level of authority is a volatile thing.

>>2613373

Hey I agree with what you say. I don't think living in the moment is some magical answer anyway. I was happy when I had a job, my own place, and good friends. Then a year or maybe more ago I lost it all at once. Losing my job meant losing my place and losing my friends when I couldn't talk to them anymore and they all moved on with their lives. Ended up with nothing and no one, turned to drugs out of despair, trying to fix myself. Made it worse. Now there's nothing to look forward to. The only person I talk to anymore is my exbestfriend thats been straight with me how she's never going to care about the way she used to.

My mind is pretty much ruined. I can study, I have studied a lot. Just to pass the time even. And I learned but it doesn't help with anything at the end of the day. I say ruined because I seem to have ADHD or something that prevents me from starting and completing even simple tasks. I was diagnosed bipolar at some point. I have breakdowns where I can't stop crying pretty much daily. If I do find work its difficult to hide somewhere if it comes on at a bad time.

I came here to here ask about the best ways to kill myself. I'm not even emotional about it, it's simply that i'm done with life. I saw the story today about the guy who killed himself after a joyride in the plane and it seemed like he was okay with it. I'm too old to join the military or i'd do that. I'd be ok with donating myself in that way to something, even if I hate the military I just don't have anything left to do here. I've been trying to get 'back on my feet'. make new friends, start my life over again. nothing takes. I'm just finished and want a good way out.

>come back to 4chan thread half an hour after reporting someone for making a stupid spergpost about muh Commies muh SJWs in a thread where it's irrelevant (sadly had to specify reason as "off topic" because "politics outside of /pol/" isn't there

>[Deleted]

Oh yes, I could get used to this VERY quickly indeed. VERY quickly.

>>2613425

been reporting race bait threads on /tv/ and being pleasantly surprised. maybe it could be bearable again.

>>2613426

is /tv/ still pedo zone

>>2613416

>The leader would just think about it

That just transfers the problem tho. If millions of people are at the mercy of one or a handful of supposed experts, well then we're back at current capitalism and its technocratic veneer.

It's an age-old problem: how to pick the best leader possible, or at least make sure he'll be decent? There's no method, plain and simple, so election and allotment are the best compromises we have. Sure, the populace might stall on approving an unpleasant but important policy, but I'd say it's a worthy trade-off against the risk of investing so much power in few hands.

>>2613415

I think his point isn't that it wasn't supported by millions, but rather that it had to be forced onto millions, which was obviously tricky no matter who was in charge. Yes, I know, kulaks and reactionaries were fagging things up, but I don't think there's a single soul who can honestly say the collectivization was conducted, let's say, optimally.

>tfw can't tell if this girl doesn't want to talk or if she's just boring

>>2613427

yes, i think hoping for that to go away is too demanding for the impossible

>>2613415

Supported, but not initiated. On their own it's not very believable they would have done such a thing, nor been able to suppress the revolts with as much ease.

>>2613429

Democracy is the ideal, yes, but it is only after all the pressing issues are dealt with. It is for this reason that Russia does not have a democracy but rather an autocracy throughout its history, because it needed a leader that would be able to respond quickly to enemies that could almost fly across its flat plains. Centralized power is provisional, though, because there's a lot of volatility in that position. They wouldn't necessarily carry with them the veneer of capitalistic exploitation, again, so hopefully there is a leader that takes care of things before establishing democracy. Holding on to power is unstable, and having full democracy is unstable as well.

>>2613430

Try to find out what are her interests and talk about one of them. If she still doesn't engage, time to walk away.

>>2613436

Already tried that. I think she's just boring… She's cute though.

>>2613438

>>2613436

I guess if I'm the only one making conversation I should stop talking.

>>2613397

Because I'm not authoritarian.

reading 90s game magazines is like taking a speedball of neoliberalism and reaction while drunk on nostalgia and listening to vaporwave.

(but in a way that's nowhere near as cool as that and can't distract from the fact you're skimreading decades old advertising for products you wouldn't even pirate.)

>>2613458

>Is this how people get addicted to opiates?

yes, be careful man

peak Capitalism is when English is your second language and you search a word to make sure it's the right one and instead of getting the definition you get a Microsoft program

>>2613525

Feel like it has to be Excel. I suppose there is a few though, Access would be my second guess.

>>2613525

<the IBM Stellar Sphere, the Microsoft Galaxy, Planet Starbucks

>>2613535

ding ding ding

Pointing out Orwell was a socialist is a guilty pleasure of mine

>>2613558

I once changed my handle in Warband: Napoleonic Wars to "Orwell_Was_A_Socialist". Had the predicted effect of triggering massive deranged rants in chat, especially from this one NAZPRIM GANG type.

What exactly is it about historical games that attracts /pol/yps and stormweenies in such massive quantities anyway?

>>2613559

Has been discussed in this thread before: in games you sent out mass-produced units to achieve a goal with well-defined good guys and bad guys, rewarding aggression and domination. It's moreso that /pol/yps are born from this, rather than pre-made neo-Nazis being attracted to this after the fact. Although, their taste may become increasingly historical to mutually reinforce their beliefs.

>>2613568

being a settler colony with no real history would be my guess.

like canada, australia and new zealand turned out basically alright and i'm willing to bet it's because they can track their history back more than a thousand years using the UK as a proxy. America told the UK to fuck off, but in doing so made the late 1700s their year zero.

at the same time maybe that's america's special advantage for the future, as we're all strangled to death by history americans and americans alone will be at liberty to enjoy the land of the permanent present.

>>2613559

I was just thinking today: where liberals have "I fucking love science!", /pol/ types and sympathizers have "I fucking love history and philosophy!". Of course, it is completely unnecessary to have actually studied either history or philosophy. Their knowledge usually ends at crusader memes, "USSR had no food" memes and playing Kaiserreich. It's just virtue signaling about how you "respect your history" or some shit.

>>2613533

Good feel. I’ve been there a few times

did the GDR really execute people trying to escape East Germany? I really have a hard time believing such a thing.

>>2613595

Yes… if they were extremely dangerous people like Nazi war criminals or child killers. This is the part usually left out.

>>2613601

that's incredibly hard to digest for most people, though. You expect people to believe that despite there being documents ordering to kill traitors and every historian ever validating those claims?

>>2613558

Orwell was one of the worst types of socialists, a petty booj traitor with no actual principles i.e. an anarchist.

Dear lord please send blessings to Xi Jinping and the communist party. As you have sent them to lead China and the whole world into a new era.Please send prayers to Xi Jinping as he does the work of the lord.

Amen

>>2613615

Oh I obviously disagree with Orwell on most things, but it's still amusing when a nazi references 1984 and you tell them Orwell literally fought for an organization called the "Workers' Party of Marxist Unification" and they short-circuit

the feeling of reporting posts for 'racism outside of /b/' is the social democratic alternative to the orgasm.

Was there something I was suppose to take away from Serial Experiments Lain? I watched it a while ago but now I can't remember for shit what it was about. Is it 2deep4me?

>>2613662

I haven't met a sizeable amount of people who have a coherent understanding about it; it seems more than just "Kids spend too much time on the computer" though. I just watched it a couple days ago myself, and I hardly followed. Didn't get the significance of the super drug that made things feel slow, or how Lain got her computers, or who the computer god dude was, or what the Knights of the Eastern Calculus exactly did. Seems that part was more so for story then themes though, you just have to infer a lot accurately to understand.

can't tell if /leftypol/ was actually reasonably influential on the internet as a whole circa 2016 or if it was just disproportionately influential to me.

>>2613636

Were you also the guy who bumped into his crush and she said "you don't have to be afraid of me"? If yes, man, I wish I had known, because I would have told you to chat in person. In the starting stages of a relationship, internat chatting doesn't cut it. Invite her to something, it doesn't need to be just the two of you, especially considering you're not even dating yet. Call her to some acctivity with your friends or somesuch.

>>2613687

yep that was the year leftypol exploded, the board sponsored one of wolff's lectures, it got mentioned on some popular alt right videos, the reddit catgirl drama, the american election, etc. i was browsing this board every god damn night

>>2613691

It makes sense but I detect a possible undercurrent of internet ideology (which let's be fair we've all drowned in by now) in the desire for informational efficiency. If you were to create something in pure good faith to resolve this crisis, even without the profit motive, how would you end up with anything distinct from Facebook or Google? Undoubtedly the profit motive perverts this underlying good faith desire, but even without that such information aggregation is unsettling (editor's note: author is a luddite) and alters the balance of human relations in other ways, which may not be desirable for reasons that are possibly just spooks.

It may also be considered that the result that leads to the highest aggregate happiness may not actually be the "best" result depending on the criteria applied. Consider a desert island cut in half by a forest. There are coconut trees, because of course there fucking are, ancaps love their coconut trees. But those aren't relevant. Anyway, on the left side of the island there are two people - one undesirable, one desirable. On the right side, there are two people - one undesirable, one desirable. Both of them have a superstitious belief that coconuts are evil because it was a crate of coconuts that crashed the plane they were on and stranded them on this island. As it stands, the desirable and the undesirable people have to get along with one another because they're the only companionship possible. It's either 1+1 = 2, or you're on your own. Now, we could give them the information that their superstition is stupid, but in doing so we would change the social dynamics of the island - instead of two communities of co-operative individuals, we now have one larger community. In this community there exists the risk that the two desirable individuals immediately befriend one another, leaving the two undesirable ones behind. The two undesirables may be forced into one another's arms - yielding a worse relationship on their end - or they may conclude the other is so undesirable as to have being alone be preferable, especially because they have previously experienced the companionship of a desirable individual. In either case, we may well conclude the more equal and arguably fairer distribution of happiness is preferable to the higher aggregate distribution, even if it means curtailing the life potential of the most lucky (i.e. desirable) individuals.

Actually as I type this out I think I'm basically just describing progressive redistribution of social capital, with a little element of inequality being judged based on your peers rather than on absolute status and an unstated debt to "the paradox of choice"

- - - -

Although having said that you could probably detect a reactionary undercurrent in everything I just said if you looked hard enough since it involves a certain degree of resigning people to an undesirable status quo. Or perhaps just the manifestation of the fact that I'm perpetually more concerned with wasted collective potential, with no real concern with wasted individual potential.

>>2613558

Small brain

>Orwell exposed the evil plots of the damn commies

medium brain

>Orwell was actually a socialist

galaxy brain

>Orwell fabricated smears against the righteous commies

>>2613687

The Facebook meme pages got pretty big, the admins were retarded leftcoms though. I've met people who repost stuff from De-Classcucking and don't even know what /leftypol/ is, which is extra surreal when it's OC I posted here.

>>2612842

Thanks

Honestly though I really just want something to do that I enjoy again

>>2611396

lenin was technically "jewish" by blood, and since /pol/acks think being a jew (even though he didn't know) means you're superduper evil and hate the WHITE ARYAN MAN, that means that lenin must have been spreading JEWISH VALUES despite getting rid of synagogues

/pol/ isn't very bright

How do you deal with the fact your dream partner just isn't into you? she'll find someone some day she loves and you just have to sit back and accept it. Fucking hell this is a shit feeling, never been into someone like this before.

>>2613786

Can you give a source on removing synagogues? Going on Wikipedia it says citation needed a lot when it talks about commies doing that.

>>2613866

Arigato m8.

I had a thought about people and the way they want to do things. If you do something in a way completely different from what they want and fail, they'll say it's because you didn't do what they wanted. If you do what they want and fail, they'll say it's because you failed in the implementation. If you leave them to do something and they fail, they'll say it's because of unforeseen factors and backstabbing, or that nothing better could have been done. It's just that I've noticed a lot of leaders and people trying to justify their actions in all scenarios when clearly, it is just that they are wrong despite them being so confident in their beliefs.

I am not American, what organization filters to "Democratic Cops of America" and why?

Anyone got a basic ML reading list?

I'm talking absolute beginner introduction.

>>2614011

Democrat Cops of Americabc it's thought to be a honeypot

>>2614011

>what organization filters to "Democratic Cops of America"

Dee eSs Ayye

>>2613691

I agree, but I don't think the internet is the solution. What I've been thinking, more for strategical then spiritual reasons, that a democratic socialist government should function in such a way that people constantly go to different places to work and study(my community needs steel, so I'll work on the steel work in city A, and then I'll do some bureaucratic gigs in city B, gonna spend a few weeks on my city and then go to city C to study on german literature in their university), in such a way that one person could potentially have met every other member of the country in their life time.

I dunno, talking to people during work/school/community events seems to lead to far more stable and happy relationships than doing the same on a bar or a nightclub.

>>2613698

It's always fun to see "centrist" brainlets trying to deal with left memes.

I can't cope with the loneliness anymore. I'm starving for affection. I just want to care about someone and have it be reciprocal

>>2614059

In communism we will all be cared for and loved. <3 ^_^ :3

<Poor blacks commit crime

<Poor white in Appalachia don't

Response?

>>2614151

<Poor white in Appalachia don't

They don't?

>>2614151

except they do

source: I live in appalachia you faggot, everyone commits crime all the time

>>2614151

>Moonshiners don't exist

"infographic"

more like disinfographic amirite

>>2614277

gotem

>>2614277

blown the FUCK out

>>2614151

Completely ignoring the social bias shit, poor black people are more likely to live within city limits which inherently puts them around a larger density of police which will lead to a larger conviction rate per capita than for poor white people living in moonshineville even if both do about the same level of bad shit.

>>2613695

>all economy is nationalized

Can't be fascism.

>>2613715

Leftcoms? I thought they were MLs. The admin of the main page purged their ranks of people who wouldn't be part of his book club or something. I recall one of the victims posted about how he just wanted to post memes in peace without worrying about his reading list and pace so he started his own page.

>>2613786

>lenin was technically "jewish" by blood

Not by rabbinical law tho. But then again, /pol/'s definition of jewish is "not having set the nearest synagogue on fire".

>>2613842

Go talk to her in person man, internet chats don't advance relationships.

>>2613856

It's worth pointing out that, while Lenin's authority was almost supreme (within the party, debates and criticism still happened and even he faced opposition to his measures), he did not centralize all power in him like Stalin did. Destruction of temples can have been ordered by any number of intermediary authorities, not to mention mobs. Remember, the Romanovs' execution itself was ordered by the local soviets.

In any case, I'd say chances are that he would focus enmity against the Orthodox Church, being by far the biggest religion in the empire, and the "official" one of Great Russians. Thus destroying temples of minorities' religions would kind of run counter to his ideas of self-determination and of avoiding Great Russian chauvinism.

>>2614322

>Go talk to her in person man, internet chats don't advance relationships.

I tried to set up a lunch/hang out but she didn't seem interested. I think she's one of those people who just isn't interested in dating or new friendships or anything. She's also 4 years older than me which might weird her out. I have the self-awareness to know whether or not it's just me- I don't get the impression she doesn't like me, it's just she doesn't really care either way. She said she's going to find a new job closer to home eventually, maybe we'll talk at work some time or maybe I'll just never see her again. Shit feeling but what can I do? I tried, at least.

how do I make my way from a /leftypol/ censored virgin to a /leftpol/ enlightned chad?

>>2614430

having 2 slow boards is fucking great.

>>2614441

Could the general strike in France during 1968 have started something, or did it not have potential? France always did seem to be on the verge of going commie.

>>2614444

I mean, it kinda did. Socdems don't seem like a lot, but that sure made France a much better place to live compared to other countries.

Also it's good to have at least a country were communists can plot revolutions in another country on a busy café, it made organization for the following revolutions much easier.

>>2614461

Yes, hue. I didn't even concern myself with those advice since every serious shaman or Santo Daime preacher(?) is not gonna let you do it if you present any of these problems; they have a very strict discipline, some won't even let you in if you eat meat or drink 4 days prior.

Also I had the diarrhea, luckily I managed to rush to a bathroom. On the other hand, i felt nausea and attempted to force a puke, immediately passed out. So that goes along with the "don't fight it" advice. Just let your body do it's thing.

not sure if i'm going postmodern or going anprim but either way the entire idea of progress seems increasingly of reactionary mindset (wait what) the more i dwell on it.

>>2263573

Is Sorry to Bother You online yet?

>>2614551

There was talk here a few weeks ago about how people who didn't learn a language until they were five or so remain unable to learn it for the rest of their lives. If true, this undermines the idea that we are "verbal animals" and evolved towards the hability to communicate. In other words, language is not in our nature. Rather, the creation of language was literally an accident.

>>2614581

It's called the critical period hypothesis. There are some evolutionary and genetic models surrounding it. Also we have areas in the brain that are specialized for language processing and motor speech (Wernicke's, Broca's, arcuate fasciculus).

>>2614581

Also I'm not a linguist but there are different theories of language acquisition and its development. I mostly know about Chomsky's ideas which propones an innate theory of language acquisition. Lots of evidence supports that. I also remember him saying once that language was likely developed evolutionarily not for communication but for the ability for people to form complex ideas internally and then that led to communication when wanting to express those ideas.

>>2614441

The long-awaited sequel to The Conquest of Bread: The Loss of Bread. Soon in meme format.

>>2614660

Good news anon, the guy who did the new Bladerunner is working on a Dune adaption.

>>2614591

For the sake of argument then, I'll speculate that those areas aren't specialized for it, but rather are capable of it. Human capacity for language possibly is much older than language itself; the potential was there, but it didn't actualize for whichever reasons. Consider the more intelligent animals, like chimps and crows. Laboratory tests have shown them to be able to craft basic tools with relative ease in a conducive environment. It was thought that they were incapable of doing it in the wild by themselves, but not only is that now known to be false, they're also capable of teaching others of their species how to do it. Whichever part of their brains is used to make tools obviously isn't specialized for it, yet is good enough to get the basics down. And yet, their use of tools remains very rare in the wild, despite them being perfectly capable of doing so. They are already able to make a massive evolutionary leap by making tools part of their routine, but lack Prometheus' fire to turn that potential into actuality. Their use of tools in the wild was, like our language, a fortuitous accident.

>>2614597

>I also remember him saying once that language was likely developed evolutionarily not for communication but for the ability for people to form complex ideas internally and then that led to communication when wanting to express those ideas.

Dunno, sounds much less likely than the other way around. I mean, a single human inventing language all by himself stretches belief. To go from a non-verbal to a verbal mind on your own seems like an impossible shift.

>>2614671

The new Blade Runner was written by the same guy who wrote the first, among other minor works in the univverse. The thematic shift was deliberate.

>>2614671

>The guy completely ruined the whole Unicorn aspect of the original bladerunner

You mean the thing that got added in after original release? Yeah I guess he ruined that

>>2614671

I dunno I'm excited, but I'm also a normie when it comes to movies. I just want a fully realized Dune universe on the big screen.

If gender is totally subjective to an individuals feelings then what is the purpose of gender labels? Why not just stick with sex which is an objective and observable reality that isn't a figment of someones imagination?

Seems to me like gender identification is just another form of faith which everyone is forced to respect or else they face consequences.

>>2614660

Idk why but I feel like Dune is just a white savior Orientalist novel. I can't get into it every time I try it. I liked Lynch's movie though.

how tall is alunya again?

there was a reference sheet but I cant find it now.

>>2614699

Exactly, it's idpol.

>>2614702

I know right, Dune is pretty problematic. Quite the white supremacist story one could say.

Seriously fuck white people

If first names are totally subjective to an individuals parents feelings then what is the purpose of having names? Why not just stick with species which is an objective and observable reality that isn't a figment of someones imagination?

Seems to me like personal identification is just another form of faith which everyone is forced to respect or else they face consequences.

>>2614718

Put your anprim flag back on dude.

self loathing is strong tonight. Jesus christ I can't stop thinking about how ugly and disgusting looking I am lol. Shit skin, awful hair, bad teeth, skinny frail body. Fuck lol

>>2614718

Nobody is going to fine or fire me for calling someone a homo sapiens

>>2614726

That's a typical leftist look tbh fam

>>2614727

then why was i fired for calling my boss a fucking homo?

>>2614730

Because you mis-specied him you dumbass. Not everyone who is a person is a human, contrary to what some small-minded people may think.

>>2614732

Some people identify as dragons and half-turtle half elephant anthro creatures. Who am I to judge? Also lets make sure to legislate laws to make sure nobody dares mis-species anyone ever because thats bigoted fascistic behaviour.

>>2614735

to be honest if you feel the need to point it out you probably are a dick

class is the only condition that matters, trust fund kids who want to imagine themselves as normal people need to be turned into dogfood for dogs with a health warning for people who identify as dogs that consuming it may be harmful to their health.

>>2614699

>Why not just stick with sex which is an objective and observable reality that isn't a figment of someones imagination?

Because sex isn't "an objective and observable reality," either.

I've been trying to wrap my head around the gender/sexual politics I've been encountering on tumblr, particularly around transsexuals, if only because it seems like every leftist/"leftist" on there seems to be some kind of queer. It seems like the bulk of the queer discourse there is who is queer, what type of queer, and whether or not they're queer enough. It's really rather petty and exhausting, not the least because a lot of these online persona are heavily invested in the term and identity. It isn't at all helped by the typical response to disagreement being "fuck you, asshole" in so many words. Get caught having the wrong opinion and it's call-out city and public harassment.

What's baffling to me is that they assert that gender isn't based on biology, which is true. However, they also deny the categories of 'male' and 'female' as similarly culturally constructed, which is also true. They then go on though to assert that anyone can be 'man' or 'woman' or whatever; females shouldn't be discounted as women because they have facial hair, or this or that because of the presence or absence of traditionally corresponding genitalia, etc.

So if gender isn't based on anything physical, nor is it based on any solid qualifications for who can or can't be male or female, man or woman, then what are they transitioning to and what are they transitioning from? The way their arguments are constructed, gender is utterly incoherent, with no exclusive attributes differentiating it from one expression or another. It would seem to imply that one can't transition from one 'gender' to the next, because there's no set of criteria one could achieve that would make one a 'woman' or whatever. It's just changing from one arbitrary set of attributes to another arbitrary set of attributes.

I don't know anything about gender dysphoria, so this isn't to imply that it isn't a legitimate medical condition or that they aren't deserving of medical care, only that queer politics on the surface appear completely nonsensical if not reactionary.

>>2614770

>Assuming some stranger you know nothing about is a trust fund baby

Hello /pol/

>>2614716

I can't tell if you're being ironic or edgy.

>>2614671

the new blade runner was better than the original.

>Also did I mention they updated the original

yeah thats what a sequel should do, not be a remake

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>>2614774

Why is it edgy to hate white people?

>>2614771

If you have a dick you are male, if you have a vagina you're a female, it's pretty simple. Obviously it's much less simple for intersex people but most trans people are not intersex.

>>2614771

>then what are they transitioning to and what are they transitioning from?

from category A to category B

the name analogy was shitposting but i've also just decided i actually probably believe it. what is "john"? it's completely arbitrary. It could be John Maclean the famous socialist, John F. Kennedy the overhyped bullet sponge, or John Major the more boring Tony Blair. When I change my name from James to John, I have swapped one arbitrary culture-dependent sign for another. Look at me. Look at me: I am John now.

>>2614785

simple and wrong

>>2614785

The genderless utopia will only arrive when we cut off everyone's penises off and rip out every single ovary in the planet. We can do it, comrads!

>>2614780

So were you being unironic? You genuinely think Dune is a white supremacist story?

>>2614780

It's as retarded as hating black people, or any nebulous arbitrary grouping, really.

>>2614787

Cutting your dick off to get a gaping wound in it's place doesn't magically change your chromosomes. Nor does taking hormones.

Using name changes as a comparison to "gender" transition (more like a failed attempt at sex transition) is totally retarded.

>>2614785

You're pretty retarded my dude

>>2614794

>Cutting your dick off to get a gaping wound in it's place doesn't magically change your chromosomes.

I thought just having a penis or vagina makes you a man or woman anon

Are you telling me that isn't true

>>2614791

>>2614792

White people are responsible for the worst atrocities imaginable though. They are an evil imperialist race.

>>2614797

Race isn't real you megafaggot. 'White people' don't exist.

>>2614797

Look, I'm the guy who feels like Dune is a white savior story so it turns me off whenever I try to read it. I'm just wondering why you think it's white supremacist.

Also that's reactionary bullshit.

>>2614796

I simplified it obviously. Everyone is born with a dick or a vagina or both in extremely rare cases. Losing it later in life doesn't change your chromosomes.

Not sure why you have to be so disingenuous, this isn't a political debate bud.

>>2614798

they're clearly trolling. therre's at least three /pol/ users in any given thread.

>>2614806

>Losing it later in life doesn't change your chromosomes

changing your name later in life doesn't change what it originally was

stupid and irrelevant.

>>2614798

Hey if I see someone with typical white caucasian features that tells me that he belongs to the white oppressor race. I don't know if you're color blind but race is pretty visible even in monochrome.

>>2614806

Have you heard of sex-chromosome mosaicism or chromosomal intersex conditions?

>>2614794

Amazing, there are 14 genders: XX, XY, XXY, XXXY, XXYY, XXXYY, XXXXY, XXX, XXXX, XXXXX, XYY, XYYY, XYYYY, and X0/XY. And if you just continue to press the same button like the X X X and the Y Y Y Y you'll be sucked.

would you faggots stop feeding into the idea that socialists hate white people

you're only vindicating retarded right wingers

>>2614813

Not to mention there are people who have some of their cells with a certain group of sex chromosomes and other cells in their body with a different group of sex chromosomes.

>>2614815

There's only one guy doing that here and it's obviously a /pol/yp

>>2614800

Have you tried working in thirty minute chunks

>>2614800

>>2614825

POMODORO

>>2614825

Currently im usually doing 45min sessions with 5-10 min brakes. I will try cutting down the interval to 30minutes.

on a positive note my sex drive seems to have gone away completely, haven't fapped in like 3 days and have no desire to. I was in a horny slump for a while there, I feel much better now.

Watching UTR 2 live with you guys over in the cyclical thread was the most fun I’ve had here in a while tbh

>>2614850

Leftist solidarity is all about having fun and making friends. :)

killed a beetle for sneaking into my room and then said "that's for taxman" automatically.

>>2614879

Based. I was just putting Revolver, I'll put Sticky Fingers instead.

RS>Beatles

game idea: a jingoism simulator FPS of the america saves the day mould but instead of america you play the soviet union.

ideally 1917 or Afghanistan. Prague Spring if you want to push the limits of the genre. (probably by hiding the fact you're the USSR until the last second and speaking in much more vague terms about a crazed population risking destroying utopia.)

Which /leftypol/ poster would you marry?

For me it's either this rose >>2614982 or the angry lowercase stache

>>2615148

ancap friend because he cute

>>2615148

the yankee-hating pirate turk

>>2615183

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomodoro_Technique

>>2615148

>angry lowercase stache

who

>>2614785

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_transsexuality

only a right winger looks for easy answers on complex issues

it's why their ideologies are entirely based on memes and infographs

maybe you're more comfortable around your fellow brainlets on /pol/