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File: 315734ce413fc42⋯.gif (170.48 KB, 1000x750, 4:3, Yemen.gif)

 No.2354570

This thread is for general discussion of the war in Yemen and the politics inside and surrounding it.

Livemap

https://yemen.liveuamap.com/en/2018/8-january-the-yemeni-national-army-controls-jabal-alhammam

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 No.2354634

I don't know much about this conflict, who are the fighting sides?


 No.2354693

>>2354661

No one


 No.2354705

>>2354704

Nothing.


 No.2354727

>>2354720

literally no country is irrelevant


 No.2354731

>>2354727

Kekistan.


 No.2354734

>>2354720

that's a turd thing to say


 No.2354736

>>2354570

>the comment section

This is what modern war looks like.


 No.2354808

>>2354704

Sunni vs. Sha


 No.2354809

>>2354739

By playing it defencivly until SA is bankrupt


 No.2354817

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>>2354742


 No.2354844

File: a577b3ad27f639a⋯.png (468.42 KB, 720x355, 144:71, 20180113_184826.png)

RT filmed these wymin and children decrying Saudi bombs.


 No.2354872

>>2354844

>proletariat women armed with

glorious Kalishnikovs

Hot damn Yemen is based af


 No.2354886

>>2354808

Oh, that fuckin' thing. They should all just become fedora tippers and be done with it.


 No.2354916

File: ae573cfbb0d9681⋯.png (314.99 KB, 552x1838, 276:919, WHAT THE FUCK.png)

Why were Saudis supporting Communists against the US and why did Green Libya align with the US on this matter?


 No.2354930

>>2354653

Iran literally doesn't have the resources it would need to fund the Houthis like the CIA does the FSA or ISIS.


 No.2354931

>>2354739

Houthis have already shown resilience, I really think they can win the war of attrition


 No.2354936

>>2354923

>not appreciating tactical niqabs

Where's your sense of aesthetics?


 No.2354969

>>2354957

the stalinstache saying based isn't fetishizing them


 No.2354970

>>2354957

Dude shut the fuck up. The only thing being fetishized is women's power. We support them regardless of what they wear you dumb liberal.


 No.2355075

>>2354916

Maybe you should not listen to fucking wikipedia.


 No.2355106

>read an AP article about six months ago about how UAE is carving out a military-run proto-state in Yemen, complete with torture camps and a secret police.

>literally haven't see anything about it since

Seriously, what the fuck happened with that


 No.2355125

>>2355075

What is wiki lying about here?


 No.2355131

>>2355106

The news reporting on Yemen has been some of the worst in modern history, it is one of the most-suppressed news items ever. All the human rights orgs and NGOs published ridiculously low death counts (ten or twenty thousand) two years ago and have NEVER updated them. Similarly, recently there were reports that the famine in Yemen "COULD BECOME" a genocide (with only 100k or so dead), when IN REALITY, THERE MUST ALREADY BE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS KILLED.

America must be destroyed.


 No.2355132

>>2355125

I'm saying get some real fucking info.


 No.2355136

>>2355132

As you're so well informed please provide "some real fucking info" to us plebs.


 No.2355138

>>2355132

I'm asking which info isn't real, so I can get some real fucking info. Do you have some real fucking info?


 No.2355165

>>2355138

So actually ask, don't accept the basic assertions of a box on wikipedia.


 No.2355171

>>2355165

This is the third time I'm asking. Do you have some info?


 No.2355189

>>2355171

If he had info, he'd obviously have given it by now.


 No.2355375

Man, the first half of this thread is completely incomprehensible. Friendly reminder to go to >>>/leftpol/ if you don't want this kind of over-moderated censoring shit.


 No.2355494

File: 51f25de1f3f67a2⋯.jpg (31.72 KB, 1024x683, 1024:683, 1475935238789.jpg)

>>2354957

learn to take a joke [clapping hands between words]


 No.2355617

wew


 No.2355909

>>2354570

its a revolution against asaudi invasion and their puppet goverment, but noone here cares because because western MSM doesent talk about it


 No.2356691


 No.2356786

>>2355106

aljazeera is owned by X country. if X country changes its relations with Y country then AJ will do the same with reporting on Y country.


 No.2356787

>>2355909

This is a Houthi board dude, it's a war of national liberation, this is the clearest cut example of the people against porky in modern history.


 No.2356797

>>2356787

>This is a Houthi board dude

you mean a houthi thread?

most people on here dont know what the war is about.

plus /pol/ would also be a "houthi board" by your logic


 No.2356968

>>2356787

Are the Houthi socialist, or just want to replace their porky?


 No.2356974

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>>2356968

They aren't socialist but they are anti-imperialist.


 No.2357210

>Not wanting to partition Yemen between houthis in the north, and the communists in the south

Fuckin nerds

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 No.2357220


 No.2357228

>>2357210

Speaking of, I see most socialists endorsing the Houthis, but the only socialist-affiliated group in Yemen (the Southern Movement) is allied with the Hadi-led government.

Can someone explain?


 No.2357229

>>2356974

>They aren't socialist but they are anti-imperialist.

are you retarded or what, you cannot be an anti-imperialist capitalist

Being against the largest imperial force in the world as a capitalist only means you hope to see your own forces become the major imperialist power

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 No.2357235

>>2357228

For a time the Houthis were allied to ex president saleh, who purged the shit out of the socialist party and commited a lot of war crimes when taking over socialist south yemen, so the Southern movement are fighting against the Houthis because they hate Saleh. Recently tho the houthis did kill Saleh after he betrayed them.


 No.2357241

>>2357210

>>2357229

Welp, some retard mod is going apeshit again.


 No.2357244

>>2357241

Oh, of course, it's the BO, who has consistently shown to not have the faintest clue what imperialism is and to ban anyone who says anything bad about Assad or glorious Salafi jihadists.


 No.2357249

>>2357210

>the communists in the south

I'm guessing they are all dead and buried, or in hiding. The Saudi puppets there hardly rank as communists.


 No.2357600

>>2357235

The question is will grudges lead to conflict if not in ideology, but also under simple personal conflict as well.


 No.2358016

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>>2357244

Salafi jihadists are anti-Iran, anti-Syrian gov, anti-Hezbollah, and anti-Houthi. How would criticizing them get you banned?


 No.2358022

>>2354739

Hold out until the Southern Movement splits off from the Saudi Coalition and takes over the non-AQ sections of South Yemen.


 No.2358024

>>2357210

>>2358022

In case I'm banned for that, I'm not saying it's good, but it's the only outcome in which the Supreme Revolutionary Committee remains in power in the North.


 No.2358095

>>2355125

They aren't. You fell for the bait.

But I'm wondering what's the explanation for this as well.


 No.2358109

>>2358022

>Hold out until the Southern Movement splits off from the Saudi Coalition and takes over the non-AQ sections of South Yemen.

>hold out to see if something i hope for magically happens no matter the cost

anglosphere leftists in a nutshell


 No.2358111

>>2358016

he doesent know what hes talkin about. look at his flag


 No.2358112

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>>2357228

>but the only socialist-affiliated group in Yemen

>""socialist" affiliated"


 No.2358283

>>2358265

>vol

it was BO


 No.2358325

>>2358283

I am not surprised by this at all.


 No.2358328

Why so many deleted comments?


 No.2358348

>>2358109

I'm not giving the Houthi's strategic advice, I'm pointing out the only scenario in which the Saudis don't starve the Yemenis in Houthi territory till they're all dead.

I'm also not white or American fam


 No.2358353

>>2358109

There’s pretty big protests in Aden from southern separatists against Hadi right now

https://twitter.com/aboood6610/status/953202693690003456


 No.2358367

>>2358353

the top brass is trying to pressure eachother knowing that neither side can afford losing allies. even if something like more infighting happens youll just have more sides, the thinking there is far from "my enemys enemy my firend".

AKA whats happening in syrias Idlib right now


 No.2362659

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 No.2362668

File: aa6b33d8c09f427⋯.jpeg (75.05 KB, 698x290, 349:145, CFA460C7-E03F-4ED1-A22E-4….jpeg)

>>235836this is vaguely related to protests


 No.2364534

>>2357249

The southern separatists called for the Saudi backed government to be overthrown earlier today https://t.co/3PVvH6CUQN


 No.2365411

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 No.2365419

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>>2365411

>fund commies to uphold status quo

>it backfires

What brainlet came up with that idea?


 No.2365420

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 No.2365552

>>2365419

Well first not everyone in the southern front is a red, and even those who are, hate the houthis wonder how’s this will turn out


 No.2365554

Any guesses on weather southern front might fight the saudis and the houthis at the same time or will they put aside differences


 No.2369766

bump


 No.2369775

Redpill me on the Houthis. What is their ideology? Are they just ethnic separatists/nationalists? Shiite Islamists?


 No.2369776

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>>2357229

Y’all mod niggas need some Connolly.


 No.2369777

>>2369776

>Ireland is the same as MENA

anarkiddies everyone


 No.2369780

>>2369777

Read Lenin. You cannot be capitalist and genuinely anti imperialist at the same time except in the very immediate short term. All capitalist countries will eventually develop imperialist interests. Read Lenin.


 No.2369785

>>2369780

>Read Lenin. You cannot be capitalist and genuinely anti imperialist at the same time except in the very immediate short term.

wew that's a very big if. almost as if Lenin AND Marx both explicitly gave their support to non-socialist national liberation movements….


 No.2369807

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File: 673f66d96315985⋯.jpg (75.08 KB, 650x366, 325:183, yemen_0407.jpg)

File: dd5048be0128a47⋯.png (50.64 KB, 308x892, 77:223, Houthis.PNG)

File: 9e43dcf5cd9a454⋯.jpg (129.71 KB, 838x559, 838:559, koy20120716041.jpg)

>>2369780

Nigga you wrong as hell, re-read where Lenin said that 'For example, if tomorrow, Morocco were to declare war on France, India on England, Persia or China on Russia, and so forth, those would be “just”, “defensive” wars, irrespective of who attacked first; and every Socialist would sympathise with the victory of the oppressed, dependent, unequal states against the oppressing, slaveowning, predatory “great” powers.'

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1915/s+w/ch01.htm

Anyone wanting a summary of the conflict:

Yemen has been effectively the only state to have a genuine 'arab spring' that wasn't externally influenced. The population was sick of the kleptocratic Saudi-Alligned government stealing wealth at the expense of the rest of the population.

Different factions rose up and vied for power, in 2015 the Ansurallah 'Houthi' government effectively carried out a popular mass insurrection and installed a people's committe in the capital Sana'a. Overthrowing the Saleh Regime.

Saudi Arabia organised a coalition with the other gulf states to support their puppet Hadi in the southern region's capital Aden. Since 2015 Saudi Arabia has been conducting humanitarian warfare by targetting schools, farms, reservoirs, airports, ports indiscriminately. They have effectively caused one of the worst humanitarian disasters with currently one million Yemeni's struggling with cholera and starvation.

The Houthis are a religious faction similar to Hezbollah, they are a progressive force in the region and have the mass support of their constituency. They are conducting an extremely difficult yet successful guerrilla war in the mountains against a multi hundred billion dollar imperialist war machine.

This really isn't a question about minute details. All socialists should support the Houthis.


 No.2369997

>>2369807

>Different factions rose up and vied for power, in 2015 the Ansurallah 'Houthi' government effectively carried out a popular mass insurrection and installed a people's committe in the capital Sana'a. Overthrowing the Saleh Regime.

This is literally the opposite of the truth. Saleh was overthrown in 2011, Hadi took power, and the Houthis aligned with Saleh to overthrow Hadi. The Houthis and Saleh were allies until December of last year


 No.2370118

>>2369997

You're correct, Successful insurrection occured in late 2014/ early 2015. Saleh was 'officially' out of power in 2012 handing over to Hadi but was still defacto running the country from backstage. Significant sections of the military, especially those who controlled the equipment and infrastructure were loyal to Saleh. This was why Houthis opportunistically aligned with Saleh at the time.

Hadi has little support even in the south and the majority of the forces fighting against the Houthis are not native Yemenis but composed of the Gulf coalition and mercenaries.


 No.2370788

>>2357210

>when the mod does not even know that South Yemen was a socialist state from 1967 to 1990


 No.2370880

Fucking based islamist jihadist fighting anti imperialist war against USA and Saudi Arabia.


 No.2370882

>>2357229

>(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

Mods truly are the cancer of this board.


 No.2371655

Southern Separatists seizing government buildings in Aden it’s happening.


 No.2371668

>>2370880

What are you talking about? The Houthis aren't "islamic jihadists" and SA has worked with Ansar al-Sharia throughout the conflict.


 No.2371698

>>2371655

link please, I want to read


 No.2371730

>>2371698

Most English speaking news don’t have much detail so I have to use an Al Jazeera link sorry lol http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/01/separatists-government-headquarters-aden-180128073439998.html


 No.2371960

>>2371730

Why would the UAE be backing communists?


 No.2371968

>>2371964

>>2371960

They're not communists though, South Yemen hasn't had communists since 1990 sadly


 No.2371981

>>2371973

I'm a bit confused, but Houthis and South Yemen secessionists have common enemy as Saudi occupiers and will most likely work together in the future. This lays ground work for a possible future socialist south yemen and maybe north if Houthi implement some good economic reforms idk


 No.2372035

>>2372007

> Isn’t the South Yemeni movement aligned with the official government though?

No haha, South Yemeni's are currently in the process of overthrowing the 'official' Hadi government in the southern capital Aden


 No.2372130

>>2371960

Because the UAE doesn’t like the Muslim brotherhood, who support Hadi


 No.2372141

>>2371968

The socialist party did revolt in 1994 in South Yemen. It didn’t just die at unification


 No.2372143

>>2372141

This tbqh.

It's pretty much impossible to tell how much influence the YSP has in the Southern Movement though.


 No.2373401

https://twitter.com/ben_ataf/status/958095369715494917

Pro Hadi Prime Minister got captured. Separatists seem to be winning in Aden


 No.2373565

Are Hirak actually /ourguys/ or is it just nostalgia + regionalism? Still glad they're putting up a fight in Aden, can't be worse than Hadi and his Saudi puppetmasters.


 No.2373680

File: 0ebad7f45393c7c⋯.jpeg (58.47 KB, 786x322, 393:161, 1D12A8B1-8FE6-4C5D-BCF1-3….jpeg)

THE FIRE RISES


 No.2373731

>>2372130

>so much sectarianism

Are Islamists the trots of the far-right?


 No.2373746


 No.2374029

ADEN (Reuters) - Southern Yemeni separatists took control of the port city of Aden after two days of fighting, residents said on Tuesday, confining the government of President Abd-Rabbu Mansour Hadi to the presidential palace.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-yemen-security-clashes/yemen-separatists-capture-aden-government-confined-to-palace-residents-idUSKBN1FJ17E


 No.2374144

Separatists released a bunch of houthis in a prisoner exchange https://twitter.com/yemeniobserv/status/958316283547803648


 No.2374146

File: c2b1fffaf497ea4⋯.jpg (269.32 KB, 1024x680, 128:85, 875205334.jpg)

>>2374144

Fantastic, good things in the works


 No.2377184




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