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How can a lefty exploit this to their advantage? Is it too soon to try? DOW down about 1000 points since Thursday.



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Soon the Revolutionary Synthetic Communist vanguard will lead the proletariat unto victory!


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hoo boy.


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How bad does it have to get before social cohesion starts to break down and the US goes full fascist?



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Volatility index.

🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VIX 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧


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It keeps getting higher.


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Good Morning Comrades


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>Nothing is going on

>Go to bed

>Wake up

>Everything is falling again


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>mfw google stopped updating the widget without me reloading the page

>mfw I can't get anything on it except 1 day and 5 day

Are they trying to keep people calm? I have Fox Business on and they are playing videos of robots doing flips and shit to distract people.



Try MarketWatch. It updates every couple of seconds




watch Bloomberg Live on youtube for keks.




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>fat suit comes on to try and damage control

>all he has to say is "economy strong".

It's not going well,is it?



why not both

Fox Biz is funnier IMO

>look guys, Blue Apron is one company we could find that's up a few points because people don't have time to shop for groceries anymore



Oh my suggestion was just for google not auto-updating


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j-just a correction , nothing going on here





(Sweats profusely)



Replied to the wrong post. whoops


meant for >>2394812


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Its so satisfying watching porky lose their shit







Its ok prole. Just buy the dip!


How is it today?








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>fox bizz

>they're trying to talk about venezuela while DJI is taking a dump.

>Varney says you could say "everything is stable"



>they're trying to talk about venezuela while DJI is taking a dump.

Hasn't their market been the only one consistently rising since this mess started?


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sure seems that way


Man, they're pumping the market like crazy



s m a l l

b u s i n e s s



Volatile as fuck and still in the red



Bloomberg is much more sectarian on the market: >>2394808


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thx Trump-ama




<Yes, Spongebob?

>I don't think this bubble can get much bigger.



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Also, I learned two new English words today:

Strumpet: a female prostitute or a promiscuous woman.

Dotard: an old person, especially one who has become weak or senile.


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>when the volatility index is volatile itself


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Just a reminder: high volatility usually means yuge sells when the stock market is about to close!


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Why must the habbening be such a cocktease?



Most trades are done via algorithms and they keep "buying the dip".



It's not, really. Look at the broader context, the actual habbeding, and reflect on >>2393709


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Teasing cocks means somebody is making a lot of money.

Also, checked.



Because even if we don't know it, Americans all know this is the end of the empire and the end of being the sole industrial power in the world, rather than give that up, we'll try to take China, and the rest of the world down with us.


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If this level of volatility continues up until market close we'll see morbid stock burn.


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YAR! These be some stormy seas, mateys!


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Volatility index


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how do I hold all this volatility


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This was the plan all along..


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the dow is shaky as fuck

my guess: it's actually dropping pretty hard but some of the big players and bots (who can manipulate the stock market but only to a certain extent) keep forcing it upwards again

the moment they stop forcing it, it's gonna crash



Elaborate? Who are these big players and how can they do this?


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The DAX had a strong finish lads.



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bro, i do dat


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I doubt its exactly a conscious effort. Rather the volatility of the market is just due to the fear caused by the sell-offs and the predatory buying and selling of those who want to buy the dip and sell fast on the sort of market which hasn't been seen in a while.

The problem with this limbo of zero growth is that it was initiated by rumours of inflation/wage growth/rising interest rates which caused the initial massive drops. Now that its settled into this uneasy volatile limbo, it can't continue forever. Something will have to break it and unless they get good news that everything will stay the same they won't return to the high growth of the past few years.

Rather, either the news comes out that there is inflation or there will be a rise in interest rates from the FED and that will cause everything to breakdown or the current no growth pattern just gives in at some point and it all goes down. Either way this limbo state is the metaphorical 'calm' before the storm and is good for us since there's no real way but down from this market stalemate.


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c'mon baby take a chance with us


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individual players can't manipulate the entire stock market, the market cap is far too high


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And meet me at the back of the blue bus




flag related


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lol what



How about tomnoddy, poltroon, coxcomb, blackguard?


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this is a dumb thread and does not deserve a cyclical



This supposed to explain what directly…? Your confusion?



2008.v.2. don't deserve its own thread cuz muh feels


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when it actually happens, we will have threads

there is no point in watching the stock market with baited breath, and screencapping every up or downtick of .05%

it's pathetic



The global market has been volatile worldwide since January 26th

This is easier, cool down




it's basically our /biz/ shitposting embassy right now


Oh shit its mooning.


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wtf is happing


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Could you take your asspain somewhere else and stop shitting up the thread.



Wtf happened here.


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It was pretty fun last week when it was down by 400-900 points and steadily dropped every hour or so. I think most of us here just want to recapture that energy.

Pic related - the glory days of yesteryear. (Feb 8th).







some news gave out more cautious titled articles even though they took note of the plus

basically the tenor is "it's not necessarily over yet"

we'll see the coming days



It don' matter. Nona this matters.


The fact that after such a huge drop, the rebound has only been .25% for today must be scaring the shit out of investors.


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>pic related is a recovery according to capitalists


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Can someone please explain to me what happened.



They bought the dip bro



Afterhour stock trading was in the negatives, but people bought the dip at the end of the day.

American Oil still remains to be an interesting prospect though. It too took a deep dip and then barely managed to recover. Only to dip back down to .10% at the end of the day.

Have no idea how the Crude Oil industry affects things, I believe it is the backbone of the American economy, so this might be bad news for the yanks.



>Have no idea how the Crude Oil industry affects things, I believe it is the backbone of the American economy, so this might be bad news for the yanks.

Oil isn’t that important for America per say, but in seton regions of America it is. Such as the Gulf Coast, North Dakota, and Alaska, without oil those regions would suffer severely, but the rest of the country would continue on as if nothing happened. It’s also worth noting the Gulf Coast is already pretty impoverished.


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Can we get it to go into the negatives, right before closing?



It closed at +.16. Literally nothing


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Final Closing of today



Damn, capitalism wins again. Is the Nikkei the next one we have to look forward to?


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O ye of little faith.






0.14 is stagnation, not growth


Nikkei's at +88


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Nikkei's in the red now lads.


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It’s going up unfortunately.



It's back down at .26%

Market volatility remains high.


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It’s going down. (I know this meme was made for Bitcoin ,but it applies to the stocks as well)



>when the market corrects itself right off a cliff


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What the absolute hell is going on with bitcoins? Has it always been this unstable?


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<barely able to stay positive

<nikkei down a hundred and thirty points

<markets slipping around the world, investors and managers trying to keep everyone from freaking out

<market analysts can't decide if the sky is or isn't falling






fuck, not 1000, 509 points, 15%



>tfw it looks like Caracas is in a bubble

Not good



The dimwits who unironically talk about karltural marxism love this damn pic.


That pic should read "your butt.



Well, what's the bubble?


Looks like the nikkei will go under 1% today. This shit is tanking


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>Tfw Annime will cease to exist within your lifetime

Thank you god


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I like anime!


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tokyo final


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Hang Seng and SSE both closed with a plus.




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London just pooped its pants.



Hot damn. Imagine being on the trading floor.



wtf happened lmao


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DAX and CAC too. What the hell is going on over there?


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Hot damn. Did somebody piss in a server or something?


Futures went into negative.



Found the reason: Markets go into reverse as US inflation unexpectedly spikes higher - business live.



Apparently the cause is the US CPI Data release



don't ask me what any of this means but inflation has people shook.


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That's ltierally a NOPE.avi in financial form.


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Looks like Dow's reacting to the news too.


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Look at those related stories.

Porky gettin' scared.



Damn, the slope on that motherfucker


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Yeesh. Today's gonna be crazy.


It looks like things are mooning after that bit of news, so I guess they took things pretty well?



Oh, I go zip zop zoobity bop!


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Bitch please


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This tbh


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I think we need to drill into people's fucking heads endlessless that this was all precipitating by news that wages had risen so people understand that the interests of stock and profit are fundamentally opposed to the interests of workers.


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No duh


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>Keep in mind overall the economy is strong and will recover.

Don't worry proles it's just a correction!


We had about a 2300 point drop from the height of the dow. The rebound so far has been about 1050 points. Generally it takes about ~50% rebound before we enter the "return to normal" phase before we start heading straight down. The major dip is about to come.


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They're going to pull children's teeth and hair out to pay for this, those who refuse to comply will get a conservative facebook boomer meme about being lazy and unpatriotic like Colin Kaepernick and antifa. Alternatively, if this goes through, ( https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-12/trump-budget-swaps-food-stamps-for-100-percent-american-food ), the feds can punish the poor by downsizing their rations.


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Not just downsizing rations, but excluding fresh produce from the list of available options for the people on benefits to spend that money on. In this way it becomes a minor boon to the corporate manufacturing groups that package and sell canned and preserved foods. Worse economy = more people on benefits = more people who have to 'live within their means' while on social welfare = more net sales for the handful of international megacorps that manufacture most of the food we eat because that's all you can buy with the benefit money.

It's corporate welfare that feeds poor people shitty food.



Not to mention those who receive megacorp welfare behave exactly like drug dealers



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>exactly like drug dealers

exactly like drug dealers, except with way more money, power, influence, lawyers, and usually an imperialist terror-state to back them up if the locals get too rowdy, like in Guatemala during the banana wars.




Is inflation the ultimate spook?


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This is only happing because Valentine’s Day is a mass day of consumerism, like all holidays in America, unfortunately.


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Porky wins again. We have about a 50% rebound so hopefully tomorrow is when shit hits the fan


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Same should be true to a lesser extent of the days leading up to it.


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Good morning fellow crash addicts! Monitoring Johannesburg stocks because of Zuma's resignation.


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hey, so I'm still learning economics, but wasn't the consensus a few months ago that the republican tax bill would be like an adrenaline shot for the stock market, and hold off any crashes for a year or at least until the end of tax season or something?

don't get me wrong, I would absolutely love it if the stock market crashed right after the tax bill that porky championed as a huge boon for the economy was passed. imagine liberals tripping over themselves trying to explain that one


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Who’s ready for the Bull trap.


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Oh, I'm ready.






Did this meme come with an advertisement?



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I'm reading that bitcoins have been rebounding too. If growth continues for the rest of the week, I think we're firmly in bull trap territory.


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Go down motherfucker






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Down down down downnnn


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Germany in red.


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Rally status = sold


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Germany, UK in red, France holds.


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Okay, now should come the panic sell-off as people see that the rally is over.


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France still holds.



all coming back up again


Looks like this is gonna be a super volatile day. Dow is at +.10 now



(readies the Glass just in case)


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Germany, France: going down.

DOW, UK: going up.


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erryone going down again



b-buy the d-dip!!!!!


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>They bought the dip



How many hours left untill they close??




Click "hours" of Germany, France, UK, NYSE.


I'm betting on +.45% increase for DOW and then a dip again


Is it just me or Google updates the graphs MUCH less frequently today?



Seriously, CAC 40, DAX, FTSE, DOW: it only updates every half minutes, while it did every 5 second before. (I'm pressing F5 as well.)




you all probably hammered the servers too much lol


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Porky wont give up



The higher it climbs, the worst the crash is going to be. Porkies are getting really fucking desperate.



Call me a nutjob, but at this point I seriously think that those who have major stakes (shares) in these markets have an auto-buy bot in place for every major dip to match it.


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Go down dow plz.



I think we have a little bit to go before that. Porky still has faith that everything is under control. The "it's just a correction" meme is still getting play. If bitcoin plummets again, or a bunch of sudden bankruptcies start popping up, or some kind of major, unexpected shift in the market, that's when the panic will start imo.

For the big hogs, things are ideal. They expect to recover to where things were pre dip (and more), so they're getting a bunch of bargains that they expect to shortly increase in value.

I can't guess what could happen, but all of a sudden investors have been swarming over phone apps that have been losing money for years. Snapchat, Twitter, and other "big names" have climbed up recently. I'm not certain why, but I find it hard to believe that they've somehow solved their revenue problems. If one of those folded, I imagine investors for other internet properties and apps would flee in droves. They could call it the dotapp bubble, and we'll all have to pretend that it was totally unexpected and like this is never happened before. The anemic retail industry could be a weak link too.

Maybe I'm just a brainlet, but it seems like a lot of things are balance very precariously against each other, and any one of them going could send it all crashing down.



Reminder that Plunge Protection Team exists.



>What the Fed economists want to tell us is that the Long Depression is not just the leftover of the Great Recession but reflects some deep-seated underlying slowdown in the dynamism of the US economy that is not going to correct through the current small economic upturn. The US economy is just growing more slowly over the long term.

>What the Fed economists don’t explain is why the US economy has been slowing in productivity growth and innovation since 2000. What is missing from the analysis is what drives the adoption of new techniques and labour-saving equipment. Gordon and others just accept the current slowdown as a ‘return to normal’ from the exceptional 1990s.

>What is missing is the driver of investment under capitalism: profitability. Marxian studies that concentrate on this aspect reveal that the profitability of US capital stock and new investment peaked around 1997 and then turned down. It was this fall in profitability that eventually provoked the collapse in the dot.com bubble in 2000. The subsequent recovery in profitability did not achieve anything better that 1997 and indeed profits growth was mainly confined to the financial sector and increasingly to a small sector of top companies. Average profitability remained flat or even down and the growth in profit was mainly fictitious (‘capital gains’ from real estate, bond and stock markets) and fuelled by easy credit and low interest rates. That house of cards collapsed in the Great Recession.



I made that vid (& gif) and I love it. Fuck me for my narcissism.



source? (The free market is strong, it needs no outside meddling defenders!)


Good job man. Will be using it on /biz/ when the market goes south again.




Ok, but this in Germany, France, UK as well?



European markets just take the cues from the US



What happens on Dow Jones echos almost everywhere else. Global hegemony, remember?


Bloomberg is acting like everything is back to normal now.


Do you think they'll all start plunging tomorrow or it will start next week?



I'll give it until March or April before shit actually hits the fan. I highly doubt that the crash can be any sooner or later than that. There is simply no real reason why the market would fall now, but it will fall eventually and there is simply no chance in hell that this could be prevented.



Give it a minute and they'll be in a panic again.


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Japan is going up


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>The economy is not going to crash

>There is not going to be a depression


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Ment to post


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What do you think is gonna happen?


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The market is still going crazy


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I-it's fine. It's just a correction. All these government regulations have really messed up the economy, and Trump Sama just needs time to fix it, so of course there're gonna be a lot of corrections! baka!



It's because of the Russian Indictments.


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Markets are closed on Monday. Look at the end rally, Tuesday will be an absolute bloodbath



To bad this thread will be dead by then


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Not if we keep it alive (worst case scenario we make a new one, I'll make it if I need to)



We could just chat about bitcoins. Specifically about how much it's been spiking these last few days.


Any news or something?



markets are closed rn so not much, but probably next week will be a blood bath



what makes you think this will continue so soon?



You can't predict what will happen next week tbh. We know that the stock market is currently wildly overvalued, and that steps are being taken (raising interest rates by central banks) that will hamper the financial markets. So a big correction is necessarily in the future. But if it will happen in big shocks, and if so when these will come, is all dependent on unpredictable mass hysteria.


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I want it to crash again in the next month.

This time 80% loss.


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Bitcoin prices



BTC still has a long way to go. It will probably break $60,000 to $100,000 before it crashes hard again.



its funny watching you guys talk about markets.

if youll notice, before 12:30ish, things were chugging along quite strong (especially considering the week previous). it was the indictment announcement that got everyone scared. then the press statement went out and softened the blow saying that there was "no connection to the election" or whatever it was they said (cant remember). this happens a lot in the securities world as the big boys get the news prior to everyone else, cash out prematurely, wait for the market to tumble on the bad news, have their buddies in the press soften the blow, then they jump in and ride it back up.

the sharp sell off you see at the very end of the day is totally standard for a holiday weekend and just weekends in general (the floor traders pretty much always take their money off the table for weekends). other than hedges who cant move in and out of things, almost everyone cashes out for the weekend, and especially long ones like this.

i do, however, think that tuesday will be a red day, but i sincerely doubt that we are going to see the dow below 24,000 (ie it will be bad on tuesday, but not catastrophic like the other week). i honestly wish it would keep falling so that there would be more buyback opportunities, but thats my porky problems, not yours (although i suppose they line up here).

its important to remember that due to most trading being done electronically, crashes are a lot smoother than they used to be. for example the biggest crash ever was the one in 1987, black monday. back then almost all trading was done via broker, through the phone. everyone was heading for the door on the friday before, and when everyone saw what the futures looked like on monday, everyone else tried to pull their money as well. now since this was all done over the phone, and had to be put in during market hours, you had a massive backlog of massive sells, and obviously no buyers. so those people who didnt get their order in early enough were unable to sell until the market bottomed out (and i DO mean BOTTOMED out), thus losing pretty much their whole equity. the people who were trading on margins accounts were not only completely wiped out, but also owed quite a bit of money to their brokerages, some of which ran out of money themselves. the fact that trading is done electronically now bypasses most of these pitfalls. there are also "circuit breakers" that halt all trading on certain exchanges after they fall a certain amount in a day. so while i know you all are praying for some sort of massive market meltdown, if it happens, it will look quite different to how the previous ones did.



also i forgot to add, since you guys are looking forward to total collapse. if you know nothing about how the market works, and want to see if today will be a bloodbath, check the VIX in the morning before the market opens, and then check it a little after the opening bell. if it is spiking like crazy than you can be sure there will be blood, atleast in the immediate term. the VIX is literally referred to as the "fear indicator" and measures volatility. amaze your friends with your new power to predict massive waves of retail trader suicides.

also, and this is just out of curiosity, i know you guys are obviously very much against the free market, and trading in general, but have any of you ever considered taking up short positions? it is more risky than long positions, but it is literally taking money directly out of the pockets of people who are invested long in corporations. i would imagine quite a lot of you guys would get off on that (i know i do, and im a full fledged porker myself). you could also trade options and just set up a bunch of long puts so that if the stock market crashes, you would become a millionaire essentially from stealing EVERY boomers retirement plan.



>if you guys want to see how the market is going to do, sacrifice a goat in the morning and a pure white heifer before noontide. tuesdays are good for augury, but bad for reading entrails. consult the vestals if messages from the gods unclear.


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Do Not Worry


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On a real this is more indicative of a coming crisis than the actual start tbh






that whole thing of monitoring the first initial slide within hours and days was fun and all but if you want to be a bit more serious about this you gotta look at a longer time period

we had bigger movement than that on last thursday, so this really isn't that interesting until after it becomes a significant drop again


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>decline of less than 0.5%

Not today I suppose.


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Let's make it -1%!


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I thought the markets were closed today



The US is.



US only, no?



oh geez relax. im just tryin to help you guys make sense of what youre looking at.

as most of you are aware, this recent crash is the result of rampant speculation that has been going on in the market for around a decade. the catalyst, on the surface seems to have been the political happenings, but the reality has more to do with the central banks. that bloody monday that happened a few weeks ago was on the new FED chairmans first day. this new guy is faced with the dilemma that the FED has put off hiking interest rates basically since the 08 crash and subsequent bank bailouts. it is becoming clear to most traders that the FED will likely hike interest rates 4 separate times this year. this will crush the global bull market. the mountains of debt that have been piling up will start to gain weight, and with the dollar already declining it is very likely that this will begin the end of US hegemony.

should be good news for you guys. but make no mistake, this has less to do with politics, and more to do with the whole debt economy crumbling under its own weight.



>this has less to do with politics, and more to do with the whole debt economy crumbling under its own weight

so, politics



>oh geez relax

discerning the portents is of the utmost importance, citizen. offend the gods at thine own peril


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By the way screenshot anon, I appreciate your dedication to this thread even after the apparent market stabilization/lack of exciting habbenings


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And we have reach -200





Hopefully tomorrow is gonna be a bloodbath for the US markets. I'm getting sick and tired of porky's bullshit.



Second. Damn dude.


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What's got them spooked?





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Japan Today


The rally for the hang seng is astronomical



It sure did shoot right up there



Only in Burgerland



Just wait until tomorrow, I can't wait for my big fat wet country's Markets to open it'll be so cathartic.


Asian countries are starting to rally.


The market isn't crashing, but it will in a few years. This is the bear trap, expect everything to go sky high for 24-48ish months then pop.The market isn't crashing, but it will in a few years. This is the bear trap, expect everything to go sky high for 24-48ish months then pop.

Market fundamentals are still too good for investors to feel skittish. Consumer spending is still up, taxes are being cut and overall the boat is going too steady. However most larger banks realize major problems are not being resolved, the most obvious being the China trade deficit which will likely spark a trade war as Trump moves on that over the next few months (the s232 investigations are timed such that they'll deliver right before the midterms, a move that will ensure a Republican lock on Congress). Trump will turn the H1B system into an auction meanwhile use a reformed NAFTA to "fix" the Chinese trade problem. Meanwhile the fallout from the "russian meddling" investigations will almost certainly result in new Internet regulations which will hamper the ability for tech venture capitalism to operate as it has. In Europe there is concerns over the profitability of major banks, even with negative interest rates growth is not where it needs to be inside the core EU economies. Meanwhile China keeps stacking on debt to keep their economy afloat, an untenable situation that is causing banks to cut their credit ratings of their debts.

That said, this is a witch's brew of an economic collapse. Just not now, things are sliding along just nicely enough where investors aren't going to panic sell. But in 24 months investors will see that none of these issues have been addressed, so when the market begins to naturally cycle back into recession investors will run and the market collapses.


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The 1st world will die for good with the next economic crash. China will do just fine. Expect them to start "developing" the hallowed out center of America by 2025.


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>tfw out of all the theorists, Bukharin turned out to be right

>China takes over the world




What sort of market fundamentals are actually doing well though? European banks are on the brink of collapse, Japan has been failing to go above 2% on their last rally and the numerous debt that people have been collecting will likely hit way sooner than you think it will. There is also the fact that America is failing to even be innovative anymore, banks are starting to destroy their own jobs and the fact that the homeless situation is becoming ever increasingly worse.

I don't really see this lasting for more than a few months at best, although the actual collapse will be slow and arduous that the actual hellish effects that will come from it will manifest within the 24-48month timeframe.

Of course, I am nothing more than someone who has been keeping an eye on the markets for more than 2 months, so take my hypothesis with a grain of salt.


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Nikkie Post-Luch break is making small recoveries.



>Meanwhile the fallout from the "russian meddling" investigations will almost certainly result in new Internet regulations

Fuck I like listening to RT


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Europe opens in 01:30:00.

Japan closes in 00:30:00.

Hong Kong closes in 02:30:00.


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If America is forced to raise interest rates for whatever reason then the game is up and the west will collapse.



Nah fam they're gonna start doing negative interest rates to breathe oxygen into this zombie economy. They haven't run out of tricks yet.



You realize we're due for a crash, right?



What on Earth are you talking about? We've bought the dip, the market recovered, capitalism is living its renaissance!


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> This is the bear trap

For this to be a bear trap there has to be somewhere for the economy to grow, but there's nowhere. Consumption is declining, production is declining, profits are declining. The only thing keeping all these plates spinning was trillion dollar a year loans at practically no interest, and just the hint of that not being the case any more made trillions of dollars evaporate from the market.



>The only thing keeping all these plates spinning was trillion dollar a year loans at practically no interest, and just the hint of that not being the case any more made trillions of dollars evaporate from the market.

And privatization. That's the key here. Austerity and privatization schemes will keep this train going until the system collapses or we end up in an ancap hellscape.



ancap hellscape will be the collapse dude, these things are one and the same. Good news is ancap will not be a durable regime to break. Just as the GDR emerged out of Nazi ruin, socialist America must emerge out of ancap ruin.



If this is the bear trap, then by the time the bubble bursts we'll be fucking living on Mars.



If Trumps infrastructure package happens, it's pretty much going to be an ancap hellscape.


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We've had some ups and downs with the hang seng. Seems like Chinese porkies are trying real hard to stop this shit from crashing but the "recovery" is short lived. They wont be able to stop whats coming. Nikkei dropped a decent amount today too. Lets hope the european markets and the DOW go down as well so that panic begins to set in.


Morgan Stanley: Says Stock Slide Was Just an Appetizer – the "Real Deal" is yet to come!



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South Africa


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Guys what if Cape Town runs out of water and South Africa really tanks? Will that be what pops the bubbles of cheap credit all around the capitalist world? Can we steer our communities away from fascism before it's too late?


we had bigger drops just before the weekend before it "recovered"

can we just wait for some significant movement now? this is getting tiresome


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Europe open.


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Singapoor, Russia.


Looks like a short squeeze for the European markets.


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Aaaaand down we go


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Hong Kong close.



It won't. China's debt loads are much higher than America's, a situation that will be much worse 2-3 years from now if they don't stop issuing debt. They will either face a Japanese style economic stagnation or a total economic depression. Also they won't be developing America because NAFTA will be reconfigured to lock them out of the NA market. This is why Mexico is entertaining the NAFTA renegotiation at all, because their capitalists are working with America's to cut out the competition and make more money. This is capitalism in it's rawest form.


American consumer spending is up, which is the basis of the entire global economy. If that weakens the bottom drops out. Trump is also creating new American jobs through protectionism which will increase (this is not an endorsement of him, capitalists all turn on each other when cornered with falling rates of profit growth).

That said, this isn't sustainable in the long term nor do investors expect it to be. Everyone is realizing the market highs mean the market is peaking, so a slide into a recession is inevitable per the capitalist business cycle. Most economists realize this, but they can't agree on the timeframe. It's either going to happen very soon (2-3 months) or in a few (2-3) years, based purely on investor confidence. Normally this is not a cause for concern, it only turns to panic when larger institutional problems have not been addressed (EU banks and Chinese debt in particular). Coupled with a reorganization of international trade due to the NAFTA regurgitation and things look pretty bad.

But again the issue is the timing, and much of this is based on how much Americans are buying. If Americans keep buying more and more things then investors will have more faith in the markets. But consumers do not have bottomless wallets, so this will eventually end. The question is when.



Negative rates won't happen in America because it would just cause a bank run. Americans aren't trusting of their banks like Europeans are, also people could avoid it by moving all their deposits into their 401ks, which the government wouldn't hit with a negative interest rate (if they did they'd be subsidizing the current economy with the future one, an untenable situation as people would cash out their 401ks and horde physical cash or gold instead). Either way the policy wouldn't work and would only serve to leave banks without enough deposits to issue loans, thereby crushing their ability to make profits. As is partially the case in Europe.


That's my point.


The underlying reasons for the Long Depression

>What the Fed economists want to tell us is that the Long Depression is not just the leftover of the Great Recession but reflects some deep-seated underlying slowdown in the dynamism of the US economy that is not going to correct through the current small economic upturn. The US economy is just growing more slowly over the long term.

>What the Fed economists don’t explain is why the US economy has been slowing in productivity growth and innovation since 2000. What is missing from the analysis is what drives the adoption of new techniques and labour-saving equipment. Gordon and others just accept the current slowdown as a ‘return to normal’ from the exceptional 1990s.

>What is missing is the driver of investment under capitalism: profitability. Marxian studies that concentrate on this aspect reveal that the profitability of US capital stock and new investment peaked around 1997 and then turned down. It was this fall in profitability that eventually provoked the collapse in the dot.com bubble in 2000. The subsequent recovery in profitability did not achieve anything better that 1997 and indeed profits growth was mainly confined to the financial sector and increasingly to a small sector of top companies. Average profitability remained flat or even down and the growth in profit was mainly fictitious (‘capital gains’ from real estate, bond and stock markets) and fuelled by easy credit and low interest rates. That house of cards collapsed in the Great Recession.

>Profitability peaked in the late 1990s in the US (and elsewhere for that matter) because the counteracting factors to Marx’s law of the tendency of the rate of profit to fall (a rising rate of exploitation in the neoliberal period) and increased employment to boost total new value were no longer sufficient to overcome a rising organic composition of capital from the tech boom of the 1990s.

>[…] average profitability fell in the non-financial productive sectors of the economy, which is probably the reason for the gap that developed between overall profitability including financial profits (which rocketed between 2002 and 2007) and net investment in productive sectors. The jump in corporate profits (yes, mainly concentrated in the banks and big tech companies) was increasingly fictitious, based on rising stock and bond market prices and low interest rates. The rise of fictitious capital and profits seems to be the key factor after the end of dot.com boom and bust in 2000.

>[…] ‘Market power’ may have delivered ‘rental’ profits to some very large companies in the US over the last decade (and just that short period it seems), but Marx’s law of profitability still holds as the best explanation of the accumulation process. Rents to the few are a deduction from the profits of the many. Monopolies redistribute profit to themselves in the form of ‘rent’, but do not create profit.

>Profits are not the result of the degree of monopoly or rent seeking, as neo-classical and Keynesian/Kalecki theories argue, but the result of the exploitation of labour. The key to understanding the movement in productive investment remains in its underlying profitability, not the extraction of rents by a few market leaders.




find out next time


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dat volatility


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Looks like we'll be opening in the negatives


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England pooping its pants. France doesn't know yet. Germany on the decline.


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DOW futures keep tanking as well. Its almost down 200 points. Looks like today is gonna be a Bloody Tuesday



ooh boi


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(Euronext is Holland)




wouldn't get too excited just yet, its not really bloody until its a 900-1000 point drop


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past 200


Four and a half hours until NYSE opens, futures keeps dropping.


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Russia on steady decline.


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>Guys what if Cape Town runs out of water

That's a legit business opportunity, my friend!






no doubt the politicians have broke the banks (that happened in 08), but this collapse will be more on the backs of the bigboy banksters simply being unable to prop their own shit up anymore.

financial powers operate seperately from the political elite. they scratch each others backs, no doubt, but they have different methods and ways of getting things done. i would argue that the financial powers are far stronger (and obviously their lobbies have a great deal more money behind them). their goals and motivations line up quite a bit, but they most certainly live in different worlds.

i dont call bankster politics, politics, because it lacks the "political" aspect of having to present yourself as a good guy (its much more like how the mob works). big bankers can operate their entire careers from the shadows. the political aspect of trying to save face with the population in order to keep your job is non-existent in the financial world.

anyways. looks like it should be a red day, will open down a little less than a percent overall. i think that there will be a big slide of sells at open, then all the floor traders are going to buy it back up, and we are going to go sideways, maybe slide down a little until wednesday or thursday and pop. if you will notice the VIX indicator, it is up 3% right now which is quite a lot for premarket hours. you should see a massive spike right at the open of volatility, as most major indexes crash somewhat, it should find the bottom sometime before noon, and then it will stabilize. i could be wrong though, the irrational thing would be for it to just go parabolically up, in which case the major crash you are all looking for is MUCH closer than ive anticipated.

like i said though, you wont see a major crash until the FED announces when these rate hikes are coming. at this rate, we are looking at about one rate hike a quarter. this will turn the street into the bloodbath you are all looking for


7 minutes, faglords!



the absolute fucking retardation of this thread is mind boggling




there's the door, faggot



Care to elaborate, my learned friend?


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he's showing that stock futures are down by .070 percent stock market grew on average by 5% over the previous week. As of right now Dow is down .45, S&P .027 and Nsadaq 0.15



>he's showing



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dude seriously .041 is nothing. It's actually nothing. Even for the lowest of the low retail investors on robinhood it's nothing. It cannot and is not supposed to go up all the time.


Go on any website that tracks world indices. Nasdaq is now positive


When Apple Amazon Google Nvidia all the major banks and most tech stocks are positive nothing's happening. It's literally an average day. The retail sector is down because of bad earnings from Wallmart but that was to be expected and nobody gives a shit



please relax




you bullish for today? im calling sideways for a bit/the week. probably going to set up a long straddle on the S&P. looks like its just going to consolidate at around this level for a little bit


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<dude .041 is nothing

>but nasdaq is positive!



> you bullish for today?

Not really, I don't particularly give a shit either way but I am looking at buying shit that dipped in the retail sector that had good ER's recently and raised guidance.

> probably going to set up a long straddle on the S&P

I don't even know what a long straddle on the S&P means if you mean you will buy the SPY etf then have at it I personally never buy ETF's.

> looks like its just going to consolidate at around this level for a little bit

if you mean the indices then I dunno as long as they don't go back to break their supports again at 24k and 2600 for the S&P it will jsut slowly go up probably


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This is a general market watching thread fag

if you don't like it fuck off



>Not really, I don't particularly give a shit either way but I am looking at buying shit that dipped in the retail sector that had good ER's recently and raised guidance

EDIT: CRSPR stock with crazy good last year

AMRS: renewable, recycleable chemicals for industrial production, lots of reeeeaaalllly long bulls, hardly EVER falls more than like 40 cents

>I don't even know what a long straddle on the S&P means if you mean you will buy the SPY etf then have at it I personally never buy ETF's.

i meant trading options contracts so that if the price of the index stays range-bound, i make money on the premiums of the contracts and flip them. and you should really look into ETFs more, they are an incredible tool. especially in these volatile times. it can be hard to pick the one good stock out of the bloodbath. ETFs give you coverage over an entire sector (and leveraged ETFs can give you 2x or 3x the amount of coverage on the stocks), so if you are anticipating a move of any of the related stocks in the index, you can take up a position in all of them. there are also inverse ETFs (as well as inverse leveraged 2x, 3x) that you can take up short positions on (even if you cant take up short positions, ie dont have a margins account). this is what i did two weeks ago and made fucking bank. right now im triple shorting oil because fuck oil (DWT).

>if you mean the indices then I dunno as long as they don't go back to break their supports again at 24k and 2600 for the S&P it will jsut slowly go up probably

thats a safe bet, but im anticipating a MUCH bumpier ride than last time up to 26k. imo you should stick your long positions to things in the nasdaq (QQQ), with a focus on CRSPR related stocks (NTLA, EDIT, CRSP)


Dow down -142



forgot to mention that there are also currency based ETFs as well as commodity based ETFs so you can take up pseudo forex positions from your position as a retail trader



its probably going to just bounce around between being flat and around -1% for the day. i would be honestly shocked if it ever makes it to positive during regular market hours. nasdaq is bouncing back hard, but thats mostly because idiots still think the tech bubble is a thing. the week should be pretty much sideways, and my longterm outlook is very bearish once the FED starts hiking things. it looks like the new chairman wants to wait a little bit first (bad idea imo as it is only staving off the inevitable)



> once the FED starts hiking things

implying the FED hike isn't already priced in.

Literally every sing major bank predicts stocks will rise by at least another 40% this year that is 40% over the all time high before the 10% correction I'm not saying they are right and that it won't decline but I wouldn't bet on it



yeah one of em is being priced in right now by the market. thats why you are seeing so much indecision. but the thing is the FED is playing catch-up right now, as the last bitch basically just didnt do her job for all of obamas presidency, and now we are faced with an actual crisis. there are going to be atleast 3 more rate hikes this year. going on that, id say that the people who are projecting 40% year are 1) blowing smoke up your ass, and 2) probably have short positions right now and are trying to sucker idiot bulls into getting on a 10 year long trend.

but as they say, the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. who the fuck knows.



wew, got out of that short oil position just in time. that wouldve hurt



I don't know, Yellen was generally appreciated by the banking sector.



>The 21st century socialist movement will be built by very effective socialist stock brokers funding millitias


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How will this effect things?


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So that's what they meant by entryism



Socialism does not preclude markets or stock, as employees can own a majority of the stock through workers collectivies, with spare profits being split amongst all employees. This isn't as common today as it was 50 years ago though.



of course she was. the big name banks and hedge funds all have so much money that they can easily navigate this type of problem. its speculative traders, small retail traders, and many companies/corporations with massive debt (and the workers that will be layed off as a result of restructuring/bankruptcy) that are going to be blown the fuck out by multiple rate hikes. not to mention the currency in general. expect the dollar to tumble fucking hard, which will of course affect the stock market very negatively. i bet china will fucking soar too as a result.



it would have affected my portfolio very fucking negatively if i hadnt had a vision of my own imminent destruction a mere moments before. i was short crude 3:1. was not expecting that, but i got out just before that initial pop in your pic.

the real answer to your question, is that the commodities market is an altogether different beast from the stock market. sure, when you see a market wide global sell off, you will see commodities tumble accordingly, but they really are not related in any serious way. in fact sometimes big money will hedge itself in various precious metals, crude etc when shit is hitting the fan. the most notable one is obviously gold, which people buy up like crazy when the dollar starts getting crushed.



this is refreshing to see. i think a lot of socialists failure to understand the market and how it could be used (and used collectively), puts you guys at an extreme disadvantage.

im obviously not even remotely a socialist, but even ive always fantasized about getting a whole gang of nihilists with trust funds together and setting up an enormous sell wall on some fucking hyper evil corporation like alphabet or apple or amazon or something. it would pleasure me greatly to destroy their entire corporate workforces stock options and retirement plans


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It’s going down


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The absolute state of walmart



>Walmart shares fall almost 10,000 points in a day

is this the retailpocalypse?



this is what we call moving sideways. its up, then its down, then its up again, then its down again. end of the day within less than a percent of where it started either way. this was my call for the day >>2405365 seems good so far.


i saw that, i guess they missed earnings estimates by a little. i dont know who the fuck thinks that means that walmart is going under, but speculative traders are pretty easy to shake out. on the other hand walmart is a prime example of a corporation that will be negatively impacted by rate hikes. the problem here is that instead of doing anything to their business model to address it, they will simply fuck over their workers more.



>implying they CAN price it in

literally all the growth we've seen since the financial crisis has been from low interest rates. any hike, at all, will reverse everything. they can't price it in, because if they did, we'd still be near where we were before the so-called "recovery" began



im glad at least someone here is paying attention. this is exactly correct. as far as the market is concerned, this is still 2008 and the last ten years have simply been a nice dream



>i saw that, i guess they missed earnings estimates by a little. i dont know who the fuck thinks that means that walmart is going under, but speculative traders are pretty easy to shake out. on the other hand walmart is a prime example of a corporation that will be negatively impacted by rate hikes. the problem here is that instead of doing anything to their business model to address it, they will simply fuck over their workers more.

Basically, all of the physical retail sector is in MASSIVE debt (like KMart has more debt than assets it could sell in bankruptcy) so any failure to meet profit expectations is colossally bad news.



also id like to add

>they can't price it in, because if they did, we'd still be near where we were before the so-called "recovery" began

never doubt hedge funds willingness to short an entire economy into dust just so that they and their buddies can get a good buyback. they care not for the plight of the mortals and their precious assets classes


oh man if only you knew how many of these big name corporations run on massive piles of debt. your commie boners will simply not be able to handle it.


for example, this website is a stock screener. i have it set to debt/equity >1 and current price at over 10$/share. so this is all stocks that are currently listed that are running with more debt than they have equity. you can continue moving the current price dropdown menu, up, and continually find dozens of big name companies that everyone seems to think are economic powerhouses. they arent, they are fucking dead weight kept alive on hope and prayer (and the too-big-to-fail ideology).


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Dow stayin' down


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>oh man if only you knew how many of these big name corporations run on massive piles of debt. your commie boners will simply not be able to handle it.

I'm looking for a reaction image that could cover a negative (debt-based) boner, but I can't find one!




>negative (debt-based) boner

post-op neovagina maybe?


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1 hour to go



power hour baby. 3-4 is one of the most actively traded times. things can go either way from here, but no doubt they will move swiftly in whatever direction.


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and fucking DOWN SHE GOES


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ha you guys are gonna make your heads explode looking at this. it will fake you out the whole way down, but when it turns, get the fuck out of the way or youll get trampled


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>when it turns


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looks like the S&P found bottom. lets see if it holds.

youll know its time for it to turn around because it will get stuck in between a very small range for a couple minutes, then itll pop off like a cork. assuming it doesnt just slide hopelessly into the closing bell









>>2405133 !!!


>socialists failure to understand the market

Are you glib? Fictive capital is a thing, you know!

>im obviously not even remotely a socialist

You don't say!!!



hey its a /biz/ thread, im praying for a bear market, just as you guys are, ive been polite enough, and helpful for those who want to know whats going on. and this thread cycles through anyhow. if you cant stand it being on the second or third page then have your mod anchor it for a little bit

but if i have to go to the gulags, then just do it already.


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>im praying for a bear market, just as you guys are

>ive been polite enough

double lol



>arent i ashamed?




d-did he get away?


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How does increased interest rates effect the rate of profit?


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Burgerland for the day.



it doesnt look that way anon



>hey its a /biz/ thread




I don't know. I think you can find a Steam Guide on fixing DOW. Winter Assault has a widescreen fix now.



The falling rate of profit must be papered over with credit issued at lower and lower interest rates, or else capitalism will enter a crisis.



So that’s why Capitalism has continued under record low levels of unprofitability.


>hey its a /biz/ thread

It’s a make fun of /biz/ thread



Which will plunge it into a different crisis.


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Meanwhile in Cryptocurrency land.

Looks like the Asian markets are off to a great start.

Is it gonna be a bloody Wednesday or is the ball going to drop later than today? It'll be interesting to see.


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Not so fast



Whys is bitcoin making gains, when virtually every other coin in in the red. What’s special about bitcoin?


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Big Japanese gains today.


Japanese stocks are in total freefall



That lunch break really gave them a change of heart


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They were so high, what caused them to fall?


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I know you guys are jerking off over the flash crash, but it wasn't a big deal for the market except the speculators and MAGAtards. It hurts sure, was hoping to cash out the week it happened actually, and I'm down a decent bit from December, but outside last month, I'm still up for the last 6 months .



Just wait till the bond market collapses soon. You're not getting off of this ride.



You really don't know what you're talking about, there's no indication that the market is nearing a downturn, it's unstable because of trump and the Republicans constantly being retarded



there wasn't a flash crash though. that's a different thing caused by algos going crazy

this is a correction



Nothing! That's the beauty of markets. They rise and fall with absolutely no correlation to real world events. Just emotion and algorithms based on noise.


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>it wasn't a big deal for my gf


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>there's no indication that the market is nearing a downturn


>HSBC Holdings Plc, Citigroup Inc. and Morgan Stanley see mounting evidence that global markets are in the last stage of their rallies before a downturn in the business cycle.

>Analysts at the Wall Street behemoths cite signals including the breakdown of long-standing relationships between stocks, bonds and commodities as well as investors ignoring valuation fundamentals and data. It all means stock and credit markets are at risk of a painful drop.

>“Equities have become less correlated with FX, FX has become less correlated with rates, and everything has become less sensitive to oil,” Andrew Sheets, Morgan Stanley’s chief cross-asset strategist, wrote in a note published Tuesday.

>His bank’s model shows assets across the world are the least correlated in almost a decade, even after U.S. stocks joined high-yield credit in a selloff triggered this month by President Donald Trump’s political standoff with North Korea and racial violence in Virginia.



analyst reports are meaningless, 99% of the time they're asspulls using correlations and bullshit voodoo. Show me earnings, show me actual data, show me shit that isn't based on opinions of opinions and charts based on historical correlations that don't mean much.



Not him but household debt, corporate debt, student debt, is at an all time high. You can look up those stats for yourself. Also like the 2008 financial crash that was due in large part cause of subprime housing loans, we now have a subprime auto loan crisis that is about to collapse. The coming rise in interest rates will cause corporations and households to pull back their consumption and leave many unable to afford their loan payments because the workers in the western world are increasingly broke(1/3 of US workers have $0 in savings account and 1/2 have less than $1000)….add in the fact that most of the new jobs created after the 2008 recession have been unskilled, low wage and disposable ones, the coming contraction in consumption will lead to mass unemployment. Pretty much every sector of the economy is overvalued and within the next 1-2 years it will all come tumbling down in epic proportions.



Dr. Wolff explains this. What we have now may just be a "correction" but eventually, sooner rather than later, something will start to crack. Hopefully this is it because its only going to get worse if we all pretend that everything is just fine.



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And the first results are coming in


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That didn't take long




This is a good post, however, some of these issues are overblown as to how it will affect the market right now. The auto loans in particular are not at hosting crisis levels, it's a very tiny bubble in comparison to just about any other kinds of loans, I'm not saying there won't be an effect though. The other debt is an issue, but the thing about debt is it accrues but doesn't suddenly collapse, there are cracks as you said. Currently there are no cracks, just concerns, earnings are good, spending continues, employment is high, the second the market starts to legit pullback, where earnings are missed, unemployment increases monthly, that's when you pay attention and start selling shit. The housing crisis didn't start all at once, there were months of warning bells going off, almost a year I think, earnings being missed etc. I'm not someone that trusts the market, I just bought solar panels because I know shit will go down sooner or later.


European stock markets are getting absolutely battered. I'm sure it'll be a sideways gain though, as Japan didn't really get that hurt and they're easily the most vulnerable markets at the moment.


why is this thread watching the stock market like day traders?



When the stock market's red, I gain an erection. It is the only thing that keeps me up anymore.



you realize the stock market isn't the economy. unless it's going down for a specific reason it doesn't really help or harm anyone.

it's like if a bunch of people were arguing about how much your house is worth just in case you want to sell it


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here, this one's on me



>3 erections


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have one more erection

how many cocks do you have?


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lol fuck you fagcap


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Does anyone else feel a little bad seeing all these losses? Not for porky, but a lot of normal people across the world have their pensions tied up in stock options and portfolios because savings accounts have basically had negative inflation for a decade or so now



I have so little that it doesn't really affect me, as a result I just think it's funny. I'm surrounded by petite bourgeoisie cunts who are getting what's coming to them.



>feeling bad for embourgeoisified workers




Why would we feel bad? We're not the ones that defunded their social security programs and paid their politicians to put their citizen's savings into stock market scams.




I really hoped this wasn't a real world.



These are looking good. Source?


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45 minutes to go, futures slightly in the green


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10 minutes to go, Europe show optimism


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it's all over. capitalism wins, karl marx eternaly btfo


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dat line: mein penor



>it's unstable because of trump and the Republicans constantly being retarded



>there's no indication that the market is nearing a downturn

Wages are stagnate, consumption is down, US geopolitical power is down, interest rate are super low, the rate of profit is low, were at the end of the business cycle, the only thing the markets have going for them is that energy is cheep with the Solar revolution.


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A crash is inevidble.


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No! What are you doing?!



weird shaped dick tbh porky, better get that checked out


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Line, s-stop!



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most Americans don't have enough savings to invest in the first place.

also expected returns for an equity portfolio is ~10% a year. the last 5 years have paid out 80% so nobody is hurting unless they're day trading or something.


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(You) did pray the great memelines today right anon? you're not like one of those filthy non-believers right?



Teach us, oh, Enlightened one, the prayer of our Market!



I wish my English skills were high enough to roleplay as a priest of the great memelines but i'm French alas so i'm going to explain it in standard speech: I've no idea where they're going i think they might break the trend again but not by much



I like when the meme lines go down. That’s my favorite


the FED is making an announcement today at 2pm EST about their plan for the year. there is fucking no way that anything the FED is going to say will be good for the market, so i am expecting a bloodbath



I don't know, the MACD indicator crossed like half an hour ago and the RSI is looking ok. i think they'll go up today.



Great Memeline, who art in heaven,

hallowed be thy Curve,

thy crashing come,

thy blow be done,

in Japan as it is in the US.

Give us this day our daily red.

And forgive us our dip-buying,

as we forgive those

who bought the dip against us.

And lead us not into recovery,

but deliver us from boredom.

For thine is the invisible hand,

and porkies jumping out of windows,

for ever and ever. Amen.



O shit tradingview is actually delayed the indicators are actually in the red



i dont know what stock you are talking about but all my indicators on my positions look great. fucking everything im holding is in a bull flag after already breaking out. but the market can turn on a dime, and especially with important FED news coming in an hour.

one important thing that i just noticed is that the highest volume option contracts right now are on a SPY put with a strike at 268. that shows me that there are a lot of people that are anticipating a sudden downward move.

you cant last very long in this market if you just think "everythings great so imma HODL". no doubt it could easily continue upwards till the bell, FED news or not. but everyone is expecting rate hikes, they are announcing them today, it looks like volatility is creeping back up, and we are seeing unusual bearish options activity. could very well crash from 2 till close.

considering my whole job and income is based on risk, i dont like to take it unnecessarily.


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adding to my doomsday prediction we are also seeing bonds go on a run right now. highest level they have been at since 08. i think this is the down escalator



what about the upcoming Italian elections?




I'm not holding anything i'm just checking the short and long term indicators on the Dow every now and then



well im saying, if you guys are looking for a bloodbath in the near term come watch the markets after the FED data release. theres simply no way that anything a central bank does will be good for the market (long term OR short term). this bull run has been a nice dream. ive been cycling out most of my trades over the hour to play it safe.

my instincts are telling me that there will be a painful sell off after the FED chair speaks. if im wrong, nothing lost (had a great day) but if im right, the value of my smugness will have tripled in a day



When's the announcement?



If either the far-left, Legia Norda, or MS5, win there will be chaos.



>theres simply no way that anything a central bank does will be good for the market (long term OR short term).

What if they lower interest rates?


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Burgerstani Stalks are going up a bit.

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