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File: b50529985158905⋯.jpg (130.93 KB, 1079x1060, 1079:1060, DVvs9bvX0AENqMp.jpg)

 No.2394922

 No.2394925

Bad


 No.2394928

Not a good look optics wise and will alienate people

However minority ethnic doesn't mean non white it means non brithish White so they'll probably be poles and Romanians


 No.2394931

>>2394922

Bad.

We had a whole thread derailment about this where some Peterson fanboy started sperging out, screaming "YOU ARE ALL IDPOL ADMIT IT," expect more of that with this exclusionary bullshit


 No.2394938

I don't agree with this but it's an 'equalities conference' for electing minority reps, it's not really as bad as you make out. It's not like white men are being banned from Labour


 No.2394941

>>2394931

Where exactly?


 No.2394947

>>2394941

The Peterson thread, yesterday. Even by /pol/yp shitposting standards, it was some seriously exasperating dumbfuckery.


 No.2394971

File: c3c7fb417f231b9⋯.jpg (66.57 KB, 540x720, 3:4, full communism.jpg)

Why should straight white men have a say in an "equalities conference?" They're already on top of the pile, and pretty much guaranteed to be out of touch on race / gender / etc. issues than people who, you know, experience oppression along those lines. But of course, a lot of SWM seem to have internalized the idea that their experience is the default and therefore every space should cater to them, even at the expense of those who the space is actually for. It's like Gamergaters whining about queer representation in vidya becoming a thing when 90% of the market is still AAA schlock tailored to focus groups of 12yo boys.


 No.2394974

File: 40b95a771647b8d⋯.jpg (22.03 KB, 296x190, 148:95, 1424030797004-0.jpg)

>>2394971

>Why should straight white men have a say in an "equalities conference?"

there shouldn't be one


 No.2394975

This sounds like an accident waiting to happen for /pol/yps to use


 No.2394979

File: d7d7e3413e9ee1a⋯.png (4.83 KB, 309x233, 309:233, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2394922

Its for the 'equalities conference' to elect 'equalities officers'. Equalities means according to the Equalities act those categories. So its not exactly bad labour policy, its just that the diversity quota managers for labour's youth wing will be selected by those they are meant to be representing. Which is hardly controversial.

The media naturally will fucking love to paint this as Labour banning straight white men from the party which will go down really well in the schizoid minds of daily mail readers, /pol/yps and other assorted tory drones.

We shouldn't need fucking 'equalities' officers, especially not in the bloody youth wing, but this isn't at all unreasonable. Its bad optics but its not like the media covers the stuff labour does well anyway.


 No.2394987

this is good for nationalist populists


 No.2394989

>>2394974

I mean you aren't wrong. The left has known that electoral politics are more or less a dead end for 100 years and yet everyone still gets worked up over literal non-issues like this or Democratic Cops of America using the progressive stack. Maybe y'all should try getting your own shit together first


 No.2394992

>>2394979

Why are English men not allowed be equality officers? They are retarded not naming it something else


 No.2394995

Also no elderly, fucking hell that's great optics.


 No.2394999

File: 08dab8c9e11a5bd⋯.png (303.16 KB, 570x325, 114:65, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2394922

>Identity > class

Sad!


 No.2395000

>>2394995

>young labor

>>2394979

>diversity quota managers

wew


 No.2395002

File: 4e6ec5b89e6ea2e⋯.png (297.71 KB, 600x512, 75:64, confused.png)

>>2394995

Why would there be elderly people in Young Labour?


 No.2395003

File: 079e499b9a54094⋯.jpg (97.24 KB, 1096x616, 137:77, younglabour.jpg)

Doesn't this contradict the slogan "For the many, not the few"?


 No.2395005

>equality conference

>excludes racial and gender groups

what did it mean by this?


 No.2395007

>>2395005

British law defines the term 'equalities' as issues concerning 'protected' (read minority) characteristics.


 No.2395012

I wonder what fraction of the population of ethnic britons would need to dwindle to until liberals embraced their identity politics.

I'm guessing less than 20%.


 No.2395034

>“Politics is not just anyone’s game,” they wrote in the Guardian. “Typically, if you want to play, you have to be a certain type of person. You only have to glance at Parliament to see that straight, white, able-bodied men are disproportionately overrepresented.”

There's absolutely no problem with an under represented minority being represented. I can't really believe this is even an argument.


 No.2395058

File: 2196b9a549a9953⋯.png (1.15 MB, 1175x1068, 1175:1068, jhgk4.png)

how does something like this even get approval?


 No.2395073

File: 9342d8425282394⋯.png (240.96 KB, 723x720, 241:240, 36f4a5a3f2a0c7121c62b7b2df….png)

>>2394922

how could The Absolute Boy even let this happen? Are there even enough ethnic minorities in England to make an entire conference just for them? And disabled? As a fucking idenetity? What sort of ideology is this? How can somebody fucking identify as disabled??? HOW DOES THAT WORK???


 No.2395078

>>2395073

>how can someone identify as being disabled

dailycaller.com/2015/10/01/north-carolina-woman-identifies-as-blind-pours-drain-cleaner-in-her-eyes/


 No.2395082

>>2395078

yeah but that's fucking california.


 No.2395085

>>2395005

If socialists want equality, why do they want to steal money from rich people???

checkmate commies


 No.2395087

basically they want every member trying to attend to tell them about their sexual orientation, gender identification, health and ethnic background

all private matters

imagine any ML party had done that

anyway, if you were disgusting libshit who wants in on that crap you can always just say you are bisexual and shame them if they demanded evidence with their own idpol arguments

also could easily claim you have slavic background, any white could do that


 No.2395092

File: 906d0394e4d9efc⋯.jpg (41.98 KB, 680x441, 680:441, kim jong un.jpg)


 No.2395096

File: 3ab05dd0100eac3⋯.jpg (163.56 KB, 1000x675, 40:27, Militant-1988-rally-stage.jpg)

>Young Labour

Remember that time YL had balls was actually like fucking trotskyist and stuff? Kinnock remembers.


 No.2395097

>>2395082

>North Carolina Woman Identifies As Blind, Pours Drain Cleaner In Her Eyes

She's from North Carolina, not CA


 No.2395099

>>2395082

>>2395078

well, she clearly is disabled. mentally. i do feel bad for her.

>>2395073

>How can somebody fucking identify as disabled???

ask /pol/

>>2395073

he's a cuckdem, stop acting surprised over him pulling dumb shit and letting it happen.


 No.2395100

>>2395073

Young Labour is a blairite org set-up in 1993.


 No.2395101

>>2395099

>well, she clearly is disabled. mentally.

so is anyone who "identifies" as something they're physically not. that goes for trans-species, trans-gender, trans-disabled, trans-racial, etc. It's all a mental disorder, by definition.


 No.2395102

>>2395100

>>2395073

>In October 2017 Young Labour's annual conference called for banks to be publicly owned, and for Britain to withdraw from NATO, and described US President Donald Trump as a "fascist".

Wait how and people who are with it enough to be Anti-NATO also be this deep in Idpol?


 No.2395103

File: d57916e705afda0⋯.png (361.29 KB, 420x543, 140:181, 8bc59c5b0e5d9e8e34df550d8c….png)

I identify as the human race. Wtf


 No.2395105

>>2395096

>trotskyist

You mean for those that want to LARP as socialists but don't want to be associated with Soviet Union? And had nothing to do with Trotskyist thought?

How did you think it was going to end? Not in liberals?


 No.2395106

>>2395096

Remember that time when the left was anti globalist and would go on G8 meeting and caused all sorts of havoc?


 No.2395107

File: 8661f53362e90bc⋯.jpg (281.61 KB, 1134x768, 189:128, 8661f53362e90bcfe8fedb4ff7….jpg)

Tell Corbyn some bigots said thanks.


 No.2395108

>>2395034

but like, then have candidates from minorities run maybe? Which I think labour already does? And labour is only like 30 something % of the parlaiment? So they'd have to convince the tories to run more people of colour? What, do they want fucking ulster loyasists and the SNP to run black and brown people for MPs?


 No.2395112

>>2395096

Also, I am digging that anime Trotsky.


 No.2395113

>>2395100

better send the fucking Corbyn NVKD to purge them then. Blairites to the gulag unironically


 No.2395114

>>2395113

>gulag

That's three walls too many.


 No.2395115

>>2395101

as long as it's in the ICD i wouldn't argue about it being a mental issue.

for transgenders there is ways to explain it biologically so things are more nuanced,

and race doesn't even exist so dunno,

but "identifying" as something where there's clearly no connection, it's some mental disability for sure.


 No.2395116

>>2395105

No Militant were actually really fucking Trotskyists that got purged.

>>2395106

>What was Hamburg


 No.2395117

>>2395112

Militant were aesthetic af tbf.

https://youtu.be/yUVAYRkdvfc


 No.2395118


 No.2395119

>>2395107

>not shown, the after-scene where she retires to her quarters to get reamed by America-tan


 No.2395122

>>2395107

Why does the Aussie look like she is enjoying it.


 No.2395123

>>2395102

You just described MLMs


 No.2395126

>>2395107

Why does this always get me so damn hard


 No.2395127

>>2395123

>here's your Marxism-Leninism, and I am going to add Maoism to it

<no, that would ruin it

>don't be afraid of change, here I am going to add lots of Maoism to it


 No.2395128

>>2395122

She looks like she's trying her best to act like she doesn't give a fuck.

Canada, on the other hand, is making puppydog "please tell me I've been good" eyes.


 No.2395135

File: e53ee3cee2ac88b⋯.mp4 (3.49 MB, 480x360, 4:3, Kinnock Militant Speech.mp4)

>>2394922

I repeat the point that the headline of a "straight, white men 'ban'" is stupid because straight white disabled men and straight white minority-ethnic (i.e. polish, irish) are still invited.

>>2395073

>How can somebody fucking identify as disabled???

It's not considering it as an identity. It's using self-definition because:

(a) Some people have what are legally disabilities, but don't consider themselves disabled. (i.e. Depression is legally a disability.)

(b) If you start laying down what you do and do not consider disabled officially, you get into the farce of having to challenge people as to whether they're really depressed or not.

Indeed, the word identity doesn't actually appear in the letter used as the OP image.

Spend less time on imageboards.

Spend less time jumping to unwarranted conclusions.

Spend more time buying British manufactured goods.

>>2395096

*blocks your path*

A LABOUR COUNCIL, A LABOUR COUNCIL

HIRING TAXIS

>>2395101

is nationalism a mental illness now


 No.2395138

>>2395135

>I repeat the point that the headline of a "straight, white men 'ban'" is stupid because straight white disabled men and straight white minority-ethnic (i.e. polish, irish) are still invited.

Sure, the headline might be stupid then but the idea is still stupid.


 No.2395139

>>2395135

https://youtu.be/WD_jcTQMYjk?t=59

I always loved Spitting Image's version of it.


 No.2395140

Why would you want to eat me, my crocodile friend? Wasn't it I that always fed you so that you could grow strong enough to devour me? -t.leftypol


 No.2395164

>>2395135

>is nationalism a mental illness now

if you identify as a nation, I would say you're incredibly mentally ill tbh


 No.2395172

>>2395138

The idea is more stupid in terms of optics than it is practically. As far as I'm aware there has been no meaningful change in party policy or position.

Given that what happened until now was

>Young Labour has a conference where they do all their stuff, to which everyone is invited.

>During that conference the various equalities groups will have their own scheduled caucus to elect their specific representative, positions that have probably existed since the 90s.

>Meanwhile everyone also elects other positions like the chair of Young Labour

>Once all that's done everyone goes home.

Then they moved to online voting for electing positions like the chair which can be done over the internet since they've got membership lists. It's a clusterfuck when dealing with the equalities positions because the party doesn't hold relevant information, and even if they did it may be outdated or inaccurate. (It's probably also a data protection nightmare.) So then they held a conference but stripped out all the stuff that they're now doing online, which only leaves equalities positions up for a vote, and so you get the equalities conference, for which there's no point in people outside various caucus groups showing up to because there's quite literally nothing for them to do once there.

So if we're objecting to the existence of specific caucuses for defined groups it's worth being clear that's an objection to a longstanding policy. The only thing to object to with the 2018 variation is that it's been an optical misstep. In any meaningful sense, it's not news at all.


 No.2395186

>>2395082

>>2395078

>>2395092

>>2395099

Actually read the article. Nowhere aside from headlines does she say she "identifies" as blind.

>Officially, Shuping’s desire to be blind is labeled body integrity identity disorder (BIID), an ailment where people with healthy bodies strongly desire a disability. Most of those with the disorder seek to amputate healthy limbs, though, while Shuping’s desire to mutilate her eyes is less common. Those who seek to become disabled in this way often are described, and identify as, “transabled.”

>Shuping is willing to admit that her self-mutilation stems from a disorder, and she says she hopes others don’t follow her path.

>“Don’t go blind the way I did. I know there is a need but perhaps someday there will be treatment for it.”


 No.2395209

>>2395186

good post, thanks

i had another case in mind too, i think it was about some womans skin she wanted to get rid of and replace with plastic

as i said in >>2395115 i did not consider it an "identity issue", thus putting it in quotation there

but i admit to poor wording, it was a lazy post by me


 No.2395216

>>2395186

>has literal identity disorder

>not about identifying as something

whatever you say m8


 No.2395223

File: 2c0e234a272d16e⋯.jpg (4.6 KB, 166x249, 2:3, brainlet.jpg)

>some bourgeois imperialist party has dumb rules

>>>/liberalpol/


 No.2395230

>>2395223

what

why does this redirect to /a/?


 No.2395234

>>2395230

No idea lmao, I didn't think it would take you anywhere


 No.2395270

>>2394971

If white men are so out of touch with race and gender issues why ban them from somewhere where they can actually learn something


 No.2395311

>>2395270

Because it's your skin pigment and your male genitals that make you a bad person. You can't learn to not be a detestable human, you were born an oppressor and there's nothing you can do to not be a white devil.


 No.2395318

>>2394922

This shit right here is exactly why people associate the far left with idpol.


 No.2395340

>>2394922

Pants on head retarded politics. The optics of it are like a rightist fever dream.


 No.2395346

File: 16d97deff4789d4⋯.png (674.04 KB, 612x665, 612:665, uwp7wyJ.png)

Yet more fragmentary identity-politics that will ultimately do more to divide than unite. I see no good reason for such a conference to exist, and many reasons why it should not.


 No.2395429

>>2395172

>So if we're objecting to the existence of specific caucuses for defined groups it's worth being clear that's an objection to a longstanding policy. The only thing to object to with the 2018 variation is that it's been an optical misstep. In any meaningful sense, it's not news at all.

this


 No.2395456

>>2395126

my thoughts exactly


 No.2395482

>>2394922

Self-define yourself as a bisexual if you're a fucking white male and everything will be fine, nobody will check your sexuality.


 No.2395562

>>2394922

I KEEP. ON. TRYING.

Why does /leftypol/ not understand that electoral politics are a fucking joke?! How do you all hope to compete with the ENTIRE Capitalist system in the CAPITALIST leader selector as a SOCIALIST. Seriously, a minority of the population are going to revolt, the majority are going to fall in line, and a minority are going to resist. The vast majority of people that /leftypol/ hates are going to shut up, sit down, and go to their now democratic workplace. The people that hold "minority elections" are going to practically disappear when the now ubiquitous Socialist political system rejects them competely. This is reality. I hope the caps helps some of you, because it makes no fucking sense why /leftypol/ can't get this.

>leftypol is a collective not a person

no shit


 No.2395568

>>2394922

I really dont see the problem here. It's one conference, directly about minority voices within labour.

Leftypol are the easily offended SJWS now


 No.2395979

File: 971eed4a51ce9be⋯.jpg (42.89 KB, 696x423, 232:141, 044e2535fa090d031d05e06958….jpg)

>>2395127

Here's your image

>>2395568

Because it shouldn't be

>directly about minority voices within labour

but about

>labour


 No.2396005

File: 4e5ba95d2dc4520⋯.jpg (114.46 KB, 693x1024, 693:1024, Best-Lifetime-Movies.jpg)

do you bros also get upset about there being an all black BET channel?


 No.2396031




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