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What is behind the liberal freak-out over the possibility of talks with North Korea?
>Junior high teacher accused of feeding puppy to turtle
What the hell
Poor News Anon. Has to get up early for the dumpster fire.
>Trump Fires Rex Tillerson, Says CIA’s Pompeo to Become Secretary of State
So the quest for the perfect "yes men" continues.
THANK YOU BASED NEWS ANON!
>Trump fires Tillerson
and awwaaay we go!
>The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement
these guys have become a privatized Pinkerton-style group over the last two years, full of angry, violent young people. and it wasn't an accident.
t. former texan
>Poor News Anon. Has to get up early for the dumpster fire.
>mfw I rolled over this morning to see Tillerson was out
at least it was until I saw he is being replaced by fucking Pompeo
>trump spontaneously fires tillerson
>trump replaces him with fucking CIA director
>CIA spooks and Pentagon pigs pouring into high ranks of the democratic party all at once as midterms approach
Is trump getting A Very British Coup'd? His administration is basically letting the United States fall apart and lose it's status with rest of the world as third rate rival countries like Venezuela and the Norks are taking as much advantage as they can. I always thought the big heads in the pentagon must be crawling in their skin over it, but I really didn't think they'd go THIS far.
Prediction: if polls in 2020 indicate trump will win a second term, he WILL get impeached, even by a republican senate. Longer term, I think the Pentagon is willing to go to war as a last resort to save the empire. With who, idk.
>Trump’s pick for new CIA director is female career spymaster
>President Donald Trump’s choice to be the first female director of the CIA is a career spymaster who once ran an agency prison in Thailand where terror suspects were subjected to a harsh interrogation technique that the president has supported.
Anti-SJW MAGAtards on suicide watch
Getting the drums set up for an Iran adventure, supposedly that was one of the big reasons for the firing since Tillerson was opposed to any sanctions or other actions
>the first female director
She also has arrest warrants out for her all over the world
>Russia decides the best time to kill a former double agent is at the height of Russia-West tensions
>Kill an agent who already served prison time and lived free for 8 years and also had no more value to the US or Brits
>used a nerve agent more deadly than VX yet failed to kill him
>Getting the drums set up for an Iran adventure
You're giving Trump way too much credit.
Tillerson was ousted by the mere fact that he bucked Trump. He was fired right after he contradicted the White House, again.
Trump really is a proto-fascist, in the sense that direct fascism out of the pentagon comes right after him. Prepare for a no bullshit one party state.
I think the CIA taking over the Dems is an exaggeration. The reason we're seeing so many veterans running as Democrats is because the party is trying to reconnect with the "working man" and those people have a fetish for men in uniform.
>Trump fired his longtime personal assistant over an unspecified 'security issue'
According to sources, Johnny McEntee was fired because he is currently under investigation by the Department of Homeland Security for serious financial crimes.
Add another crook to the list.
>Longer term, I think the Pentagon is willing to go to war as a last resort to save the empire. With who, idk.
In all likelihood it's going to be China.
>China keeps finding bubbles, getting neighbors + Africa in debt to jack up its economy, which is fast approaching US levels
>Team red country, in direct opposition to USA (team blue)
>USA soon finds economic collapse (bitcoin, the current bubble, Yellowstone annihilating a third of the nation, etc.)
>America takes out loans from China to recover
>Debt becomes unbearable
>Racism towards Chinese mounts
>"We've still got a military, and we need to get rid of this debt"
>it's going to be China.
It would end with HD Streams of the new hypersonic Chinese missiles wiping out 2 carrier groups in the first 24 hours before it goes nuclear
>Yellowstone annihilating a third of the nation
that cloud is gonna wipe out most of humanity though
Would the Chinese military really be that capable by then? Even now, their soldiers are relatively well under-equipped in comparison to American ones, despite there being more of them. Also, the Chinese population is stagnating while the American one is rising steadily. Furthermore, would the American anti-missle systems really not be apt in taking Chinese missles out, particularly ones intended for taking out carriers? And with this, the USA has much more nukes and a more developed nuclear program than China does, however they both have a considerable amount which would certainly make an impact, given that at least a small portion of them land.
It'll really make about a third of the continental USA inhabitable, with the rest being covered with a considerable amount of ash. There will be spillover to Canada and Mexico, and maybe some sparse fallout elsewhere, but really it'll be just a North American thing it seems. If that does happen, though, the USA will be kneecapped, requiring martial law, large loans, and the like then.
Did you mean some different kind of cloud though?
tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down
>Would the Chinese military really be that capable by then?
They already have them, in many areas they're ahead of the US military
>American anti-missle systems
are mostly a joke, and there's no real counter to hypersonics at this point, they're too fast
The whole Russian reveal wasn't joking about making the USN obsolete outside of bullying no name countries
>Did you mean some different kind of cloud though?
Volcanic eruption of that size would mess with sunlight globally, causing lower harvest yields and mass starvation eventually
As always, it gets worse.
Tillerson, Mattis, Mnuchin forge 'suicide pact' in the event Trump wants one of them gone: Report
>October 04, 2017 04:34 PM
>Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, and Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin reportedly have forged a "suicide pact" in which all three members of President Trump's Cabinet would leave if one of them becomes a target of the president.
The suicide pact is now in play. Now we wait to see if Mattis and Mnuchin go along with it.
>globally, causing lower harvest yields and mass starvation eventually
Thereby finally establishing international socialism :^)
im jk mods pls no bulli
we going uber neocon soon then. Mattis despite being a pentagon pig was one of the few people who recognized the US couldn't go willy nilly everywhere like the recent threat against Damascus
IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THIS
WE WERE SUPPOSED TO WIN TRUMPBROS
THIS ISN'T HAPPENING
Come on, we were expecting this. Trump is just one man, he can't impede American imperialism for long by himself.
>in many areas they're ahead of the US military
In which ones, for instance?
>are mostly a joke, and there's no real counter to hypersonics at this point, they're too fast
Aren't they at least somewhat capable? Furthermore, with everything there are measures and countermeasures – it's like a hand-stacking game, like rock-paper-scissors. The Pentagon, for one, will respond with laser systems. The Russia show will only lead to the development of new, more aggressive, and more technologically-advanced countermeasures that will likely in turn lead to increase military budgets as the big countries continually try to out-piss each other.
>Volcanic eruption of that size would mess with sunlight globally, causing lower harvest yields and mass starvation eventually
I suppose so, however there might be adaptations despite initial losses in the decade-long chilly period. Perhaps they'll use the ash as fertilizer or something, and the hot countries might in turn take on the role of farming.
Star Wars program actually worked but has been successfully kept secret until now. Trumps the only pres willing to test it, hes pushing for war cuz of it. Calling it now, cap this post.
>cap this post
I somewhat believed your post until you gave the universal indicator that it's not going to happen.
Ok, what the fuck is Trump's actual game plan? What is he trying to do? Is he gearing up for war with Iran? The North Koreans? Is Trump even taking the job seriously? Is he literally just memeing and being an ironic president?
This post is trash. Laser anti-missile systems do not exist.
>In which ones
hypersonics, railguns, spaceborne systems, missiles, and naval design
People don't realize how far the US has fallen behind or how much the US military has degraded over the last 30 years
>Aren't they at least somewhat capable?
Sure, against missiles from the 70s and 80s maybe
Trump is going a big job! Very huge work, believe me. It is tough, but it will be great!
Why is left-wing internet so strongly anti Russiagate? It's pretty obvious that Trump is compromised by the Kremlin, or at least behaving like he is. Is it just because Hillary believes it that you all feel obligated to disagree with her?
??? Maybe not ones that can adequately take out hypersonic missiles currently, although it would be very naive to think America is just going to sit back and watch.
Of course there's going to be an arms race, but that shit will take decades to develop competently. Not even our state-of-the-art anti-nuke systems work competently. Furthermore, most nuke experts aren't even sure if Russia's new toys even exist and, if they do, how well they'd actually perform. Your posts have been nothing but /pol/-tier Tom Clancy scenarios. Stop.
>Even Mad Dog wants out
How fucking bad does shit have to be for this to happen? He's one of the biggest "take no shit" people out there.
It's certainly true, imo. However, the fear of Russian influence will be used to justify attacking leftist movements in the US. I think some people are looking at that and deciding it means the whole thing is bullshit.
Don’t you know Anon? Pandering to Soviet nostalgia is actually existing socialism, so that means Russia is socialist and is exempt from criticism or negative commentary of any kind.
>implying Trump is impeding US empire and is not US empire
>Implying that this level of instability isn't impeding it anyways
>implying any of these fat rich entitled swine men are intelligent enough to posture even the slightest bit of political strategy or sense
It's true that the American anti-nuke system is outdated, however that's because it won't be as necessary as lower-level defenses. If someone does nuke them, then it's likely not going to go so well for whoever did, and virtually nobody wants to do that so there isn't that much of a need to upgrade the system. Likely, China and Russia do have some new military features however are rudimentary, and the USA can always catch up borrow some ideas in this. China can foreseeably have an advantage because of its rapidly growing industry, influence, and massive labor force, as well as its intelligence which it uses to borrow ideas much itself.
>However, the fear of Russian influence will be used to justify attacking leftist movements in the US.
I think that's a little overblown considering the GOP is balls deep in this scandal. "Russian Interference" will become synonymous with the right wing shenanigans.
Any attempt to attach it to left will just fall flat, like when they tried with Bernie.
So war with the Norks, Iran and Syria back on the table? Jesus Christ.
>Ok, what the fuck is Trump's actual game plan?
>still no intervention in Syria to topple Assad
>actually sitting down with North Korea for peace talks instead of denying them
Yes, we know that you don't understand American imperialism.
The fact is most of these people are slipping and sliding from one room to another making decisions made on paper long before this time, but the fact is this Administration is too poorly staffed to make any headway being organized.
It's a fucking mess, if you can't see that, I don't know. They're operating off what they wanted to do during the Obama Administration. I must admit, I enjoy the idea of a decade spanning agenda, but beyond what you and I would probably agree with the US wants
these people are fucking terrible at their job and making the US government understaffed and generally weak. It's like watching the Titanic in slow motion.
I don't think Trump knows what the fuck he wants. Neither do all these fucking turkey neck pig like pink-red Republicans do either, they all just operate on gut and want war or aggression as long as it doesn't harm their personal fortune.
Really it wouldn't be that much different if we were run by intelligent Iguanas at the moment.
You were saying?
>Neither do all these fucking turkey neck pig like pink-red Republicans do either
>muh stupidity>malicious intent bullshit
If you paid attention to the news, the fact that Congress overturned the veto on Russian sanctions, which Trump does not want to enforce, when they praised him for throwing some missiles at Syria and urging him to throw more, when the media condemned him for sitting down with North Korea, it would be clear to you that the US establishment is perfectly aware of what it wants and how to pursue it, i.e. continuation of American imperialism.
Example on a bit of the staffing problem in the State Department, that is outside of what the US already has, that is currently crippling them already
>After the dust settles today, and before Pompeo is confirmed, 8 of the 9 top jobs at the State Department will sit empty
>Tillerson is out, Undersecretary for Political Affairs Tom Shannon is retiring, Goldstein just got fired.
>Six other top posts sit empty after this morning with no planned replacements: - >Deputy Sec for Management/Resources
>Under Sec for Management - Under Sec for Arms Control & International Security/International Law Review
>Under Sec for Civilian Security, Democracy & Human Rights/International Law Review
>Under Sec for Economic Growth, Energy & Environment
>Counselor to Secretary of State
The only thing to expect out of this is more aggression towards Iran, and an insane amount of aggression towards Syria. And a weaker US government flooded with spooks with their gloves off.
>when the media condemned him for sitting down with North Korea, it would be clear to you that the US establishment
What US establishment? You seriously underestimate how much of this is just screaming interest groups who have a say, but ultimately little real power to do EXACTLY word for word what they want, why do you think they're so frustrated.
I'm not disagreeing with the fact America is an Imperialist power you fucking retard, I'm questioning their effectiveness at this point when entire halls of the government are currently empty and unstaffed and have no plan of being staffed.
And it gets worse every month.
These people are idiots.
>Tankies getting shit on
Oh no, the poor babies.
>Ok, what the fuck is Trump's actual game plan?
He's trying to turn reality into a Chuck Jones cartoon so he can blow soot in Kim Jong Un's face with a shotgun.
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>Any attempt to attach it to left will just fall flat
They won't attach it to the left, they'll just roll out an overt police action courtesy of Mueller and grab everyone who's not toeing the neolib line under the guise of "muh russia and china"
That's because Trump is not part of the establishment, and has little indication of playing ball with them.
What would police action even look like? You can't just imprison the thousands of American socdems without raising eyebrows, there's not enough virile hatred for it
>You can't just imprison the thousands of American socdems without raising eyebrows
Yes you can.
>there's not enough virile hatred for it
Yes there is.
>That's because Trump is not part of the establishment
That's wrong, the establishment is just fucking retarded malevolent neocons who are only semi competent and just want to retire with as much money as possible and as much influence as possible. But it doesn't always work out.
Trump has been president for a year, there is nothing more "establishment" than that.
This is about strategic skill like a 5 year old old playing fucking, some grand strategy game. They don't have a clue, the answer is always relying on the Pentagon for answers at this point. There is very little beyond that.
This 'Trump isn't the establishment' shit is retarded, cut that shit out.
Most people haven't heard of the DemSoc organizations nor do they present any threat to the order
>The new CIA director was a key part of the torture program and its illegal cover-up. Her name was on the Top Secret order demanding the destruction of tapes to prevent them being seen by Congress. Incredible
Snowden this morning.
Obama and the 2006 Dems are such fucking cucks. They should have thrown the entire god damn W administration in Leavenworth.
We must support American liberals and Islamic fundamentalists in their struggle against red fashists.
>Donald not forming his own kiss my ass club
Trump isn't that good at the spectacle like /ourguy/ Vince is
>Most people haven't heard of
makes it even easier
>Breaking news: X organization found with ties to Russian/Chinese government
Oh and in Syria news, Afrin is completely surrounded, so Kurd genocide soon
What happened to the American soldiers that were with them? What is even happening there anymore?
VIA Snowden on Twitter
>"The new CIA Director Haspel, who "tortured some folks," probably can't travel to the EU to meet other spy chiefs without facing arrest due to an @ECCHRBerlin complaint to Germany's federal prosecutor"
>What is even happening there anymore?
Kurds thought the Americans would save them, turned down the offer from the Syrian gov't and got their shit pushed in
Rumor is right now that the US is going to force the Kurds to abandon Manbij to the Turks and move further away from the border
In tariff related news, looks the EU might get exemptions too, but none for China
>yfw the AKP is actually going to succeed in remaking the empire
Surely Trump has broken some record for number of dismissals and resignations in his cabinet?
>Trump’s pick for new CIA director is female career spymaster
>suspects were subjected to a harsh interrogation technique
MEDIA BROWNNOSING INCOMING
>Britain gives Putin until midnight to explain nerve attack on former spy
>Drifting for a year without an administrator, the agency’s acting chief quits as manned missions are poised to resume.
Nope, no sabotage of a historical public institution in favor of private enterprise here, no sir.
>Junior high teacher accused of feeding puppy to turtle
how the fuck
So you're saying Obama started it?
I think you're missing a key aspect of Trump's personality her, as in, he has no personality. There's no need to coup him at all to get all his power. He's a void in more ways than one. Have you noticed how he always agrees with whomever he's speaking, so long as it's not already an enemy of his? That's how he does business and governs, he does whatever the person he trusts the most amongst those who voiced a proposal tells him to do. In case of conflict, he sides blindingly with the side he trusts the most, and next morning you see the other person got dismissed. Endear yourself to him and mind your place in the pecking order, and you're golden. If anything, couping, impeaching, killing etc. him would mean a sane person on the top spot, which would be much harder to control. Trump is the perfect puppet, because he actually does say what whomever is farthest up his ass wants him to.
Corbyn is the one who'll get A Ver British Coup'ed
Wait so she would be banned from the EU for violating International Law, if she decided to step foot in the EU? How the fuck was this a wise choice for a CIA director hahahahaha
Is there a NazBol edit of this?
Trump told Cabinet secretaries and top advisers during a meeting at the White House last week that he wanted to soon hit China with steep tariffs and investment restrictions in response to allegations of intellectual property theft, according to three people familiar with the internal discussions.
During the meeting, which hasn’t been previously been reported, U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer presented Trump with a package of tariffs that would target the equivalent of $30 billion a year in Chinese imports. In response, Trump urged Lighthizer to aim for an even bigger number
aides said the administration is considering tariffs on more than 100 Chinese products ranging from electronics and telecommunications equipment to furniture and toys. Those tariffs are expected to be rolled out as soon as next week, the officials said, adding that the timing could slip
>so she would be banned from the EU
She has an arrest warrant out for her there
>promoting the CIA chief as fucking secretary of state
>promoting someone with an arrest warrant for violating international law as CIA chief
Remember when people were like "TRUMP WOULD BE LESS OF A HAWK THAN HILLARY!"
Yeah that was always laughable to me, but the fact that people actually bought it here somewhat, holy shit. This isn't a defense of Hillary, I'm just saying the worst spooks imaginable have influence in the US government now.
That's not fucking good.
>Surely Trump has broken some record for number of dismissals and resignations in his cabinet?
He has. He officially set a presidential record for turnover among senior aides within its first year.
Anyway you could elaborate on your experience Comrade?
>I'm just saying the worst spooks imaginable have influence in the US government now
We never said Trump wouldn't get subverted by the Deep State.
Friendly reminder that this guy (and many others) called out the reactionary nature of Russiagate and the liberals wreckers on this board are doing damage-control
REV UP THOSE WHATEVERS
You're half-joking, but going to war for the sake of saving the empire is more likely than you think. Beyond the ol' transfer of wealth to the MIC, war serves a very, very important function if you're a overgrown Porky with more capital than you can invest: it destroys a shitload of value in very little time, heating up economy at home and providing "rebuilding opportunities" to the poor saps he just bombed into the stone age. It's consumption in fast-forward, but with tens of millions of victims as a side effect, whom Porky obviously doesn't give a shit about. In other words, it's dropping the "neo" from neoimperialism, meaning a return to wars of conquest as business ventures.
But it won't be China anytime soon. Beyond the traditional excuse of the deep economical ties, simply ask yourself: when was the last time America punched at anything near its own weight?
Just the other day I read an article which the guy concluded listing the 3 scenarios that could pan out for the dumpster fire that is the current world, and war was the least likely one, but still. And of course, I can't remember the damn article now, not even the writer.
They're all porkies, and they all have a million dealings with foreign businesses and governments. The media could pick any higher echelon American politician and tie them to just about any government in the world any time they wanted. A dissenting journalist here calls it "the news bargain bin", because the media just ignores it all until the moment calls for a specific person or group to get tarred and feathered, and presto, they have the exact news for it ready to go. That's big media everywhere, in communist or capitalist countries, they're always concubine to power.
It just happens that now a) tying Trump to Russia is extremely politically convenient for several reasons and b) they're amplifying it with a factoid by deliberately conflating those ties with Russians hacking our election, which is pure and unadulterated bullshit (speaking of which, remember Cuba's "sonic attacks"? wew). Everybody else's sleazy ties remain waiting in the bargain bin until and if they're needed, and 99% of people will never even know they existed, let alone what they were.
>it won't be China anytime soon
I'd say the biggest targets remain Iran or Venezuela
What a fucking excuse
Reminder Hillary wanted a No Fly zone over Syria, and we'd be balls deep in WW3 and nukes by now. Trump bought us at least a year before something like that can happen.
Seriously this. If the GOP can hold onto what they have now through 2018 and 2020, they can Gerrymander themselves into a defacto one party state. Even before then they can pass laws like Voter IDs or raising the voting age to 21 to hurt Democrats. And in the event Democrats somehow do edge in, it'll be a former CIA plant so nothing changes.
>thinking anything would change if regular Dems would get in
>thinking USA isn't already a one-party state
How about you fuck off back to plebbit.
No because the US government has hypersonic missiles too, and has had them for some time. Notably, the hypersonic missiles the US has would be launched from F-35s based off of carriers, protecting them. The USAF has also long tinkered with lasers, a thing the USN already employs.
Taking down the US isn't easy and in a war any other country would loose, even before it goes nuclear. But this is hardly a problem when Trump and the rest of the government is rapidly becoming isolationist. Besides the war on ISIS (which will die down) their concerns will return to the homefront while the rest of the world crashes and burns without an active US supporting it.
A one party state means full, true and honest capitalism supplied to Americans raw without lube. Democrats being ousted would open the door to a new gilded age, exactly the gilded age which led to socialism being a thing in America at all in the early twentieth century.
>open the door
We're already living in a new gilded age.
>Reminder Hillary wanted a No Fly zone over Syria
Do you honestly think Trump wouldn't do this shit with, now a CIA director as Secretary of State, a notoriously horrible one, is going to go better?
Where have you been, the past year?
This "muh hillary" American electoral BS has got go, shut the fuck up already, you should have learned your lesson like a spoiled boy does.
The election doesn't fucking matter anymore. You bought into this shit, and your response is "Well I dunno" you're just as bad as Hillary voters, both of you are fucking unbearable
>leftist movements in the US
I think there's a very important fact no one seems to have noticed: Trump seems to be the first president, or even first among all top American Statesmen, who actually believes in the hyperreality. He's basing his decisions on a fictive world scenario.
This also explains the obsession with Obama's administration. The purveyors of Trump's hyperreality spent 8 fucking years painting Obama as a dictator, then Trump gets elected (by accident, lest we forget), and he's disappointed that there isn't just a bill to cancel Obamacare on the Oval Office desk just waiting for his signature on day 1. "I thought it would be easier", the moron says, having fallen for the hyperreality meme. His entire worldview is one big spook.
>That's because Trump is not part of the establishment, and has little indication of playing ball with them.
Come on, man. Charles II of Spain and Ferdinand I of Austria were literally imbecile who fucked everything up, but that has no bearing on their status as aristocracy. Trump is as porky as it gets and shares almost all the same interests as the rest of his class does, he just happens both be a moron and not have the proper backing of any single porky faction for several reasons. Just relax and enjoy the reign of the third great idiot-king, Donald I La Luz Extinguido of Mar-A-Lago.
Then imagine everything happening now but harder and more intense. Things can always get worse and based on history, Republicans have shown they only do bad things when given undisputed control over the entire Federal government. Again the last time they did that they fucked things up so much the Democrats stopped being the southern party and did things like issue silver-backed coins, disallow companies from dumping waste into water supplies, and legalize collective bargaining.
It can happen again.
How can any other political movement compete with these deep and well-reasoned insights?
>Just relax and enjoy the reign of the third great idiot-king
But there seems to be anti-Trump rhetoric even in this thread, suggesting people think Trump should be replaced by someone more competent (i.e. anyone at all), instead of superglued to the oval office.
>Republicans have shown they only do bad things when given undisputed control over the entire Federal government.
They already have it, and they can't do shit, and currently making deals to avoid a third government shutdown.
>But there seems to be anti-Trump rhetoric even in this thread
WHY ARE PEOPLE MAD AT THE US PRESIDENT PUSHING SPOOKS INTO PROMINENT POSITIONS????
MORE SHOCKING NEWS AT 11
Yes, Trump wouldn't do it because it'd cost money. That's why he did the MOAB in Afghanistan: it's cheaper than special forces and is a pretty show for the media. At the same time he can expand other government agencies (particularly ones aimed at domestic policing) at the expense of the CIA, Pentagon and friends. And ultimately the CIA and Pentagon want to take Russia and China on directly: this demands things much greater than a no-fly zone. They need more bombers, more nukes and more missiles. All of this takes resources away from smaller conflicts like Syria, especially when the attention is on Ukraine now.
>The election doesn't fucking matter anymore.
It does because Hilary would have chosen a different, slightly more competent path. Trump is an accelerationist who doesn't really know what he's doing. That's why he fired his Secretary of State and replaced him with a yes man from the military. This isn't going to result in good policy, it's not going to result in any outcome other than fuckups. Hilary would have had her fuckups too, but they'd be slower and not as aggressively stupid. It does still get to the same point though, so I'll grant you that.
>anti-Trump rhetoric even in this thread
Their plant on the Supreme Court is about to push Right-To-Work laws nationally, a thing that won't be reversible for at least a generation. They also cut their masters' taxes, and are in the process of banning their competition. It's a massive success for the bourgeoisie, and of course they want more. Democrats are kind of spinning out where Republicans are hitting on all cylinders.
>This isn't going to result in good policy, it's not going to result in any outcome other than fuckups
This is going to void the Iran Deal and make war with Iran that much more possible because
Our new fucking Secretary of State wants to go to war with Iran. Tillerson, as far as I'm aware, was not nearly as blood thirsty as this fucking CIA spook. Porky or not.
Literally just insult Trump for his bullshit and forget about the god damn election already, it's not difficult.
>why isn't the establishment no longer pretending that the deep state is a secret anymore :(
I was dead sure Iran would get the shaft because Mattis has a hard-on of hate against it, but it's been surprisingly outside of the radar. I'd bet money that Venezuela is out. With the gommies gone, Murka doesn't need to police its backyard directly anymore and can just leave it to the local comprador elites to deal with. Caveat being that, in case said elites do manage to kickstart a civil war, then of course Murka will send "military consultants" and drones.
Honestly, I can comprehend that stance. Sure, it's nice that Trump is shitting the hegemony up, but he's so damn awful that there's a very real chance he'll leave the entire damn world in ruins, literally so. I enjoy seeing him fuck up everything he touches like a reverse Midas, but I confess I would breathe several sighs of relief if he were to be replaced by someone with properly-working dopamine receptors. Then again, the CIA might just be on the case as we speak, and suddenly the whole situation feels positively Faustian.
What the fuck are you talking about. It's perfectly fine to have "anti trump rhetoric" when he pulls this shit.
Shut the honest to god fuck up
>we're going to war with Iran now that a war hawk is secretary of state, and we're probably going to have a somehow even worse CIA
>ANTI TRUMP RHETORIC
>T H E E L E C T I O N
Trump is a cuck but this doesn't invalidate the consequences of the 2016 election. As we'll see in 2018, 2020, 2022, 2024, 2026 etc the 2016 election will have proven a pivotal and critical moment where the neoliberal order failed to perpetuate itself. This might seem like a kitschy thing to say now, but it'll become more obvious as time goes on. International liberalism (in the markets sense, not the stupid political meaning sense) failed to justify to voters it's continued existence. Capitalism choked. Now, it's divided and every faction will fight itself as the ship sinks.
Trump is the gasoline onto this fire.
Not only that, but also consider that Trump might actually be put into a position where he might seriously consider using nuclear weapons on North Korea. He'd find himself in a diplomatically sensitive situation with diplomats that don't really have a clue. The result is a lot of people dying.
As an addendum to this, New Start expires in 2021. If the US fails to ratify it both America and Russia would no longer have a cap on the amount of nuclear warheads they could own. The US military would also be getting it's first deliveries of it's new nuclear-capable B-21 bomber at the same time. Suddenly, the slope down becomes a lot slippier.
>Trump put in the head of CIA someone involved in torture.
Its important to keep in mind under who's administration those tortures were made and why she and her fellow bastards are still free.
Trump is a turd floating on a sea of garbage.
The whole American institution and culture is rotten to the core.
>Trump is a cuck but this doesn't invalidate the consequences of the 2016 election. As we'll see in 2018, 2020, 2022, 2024, 2026 etc the 2016 election will have proven a pivotal and critical moment where the neoliberal order failed to perpetuate itself. This might seem like a kitschy thing to say now, but it'll become more obvious as time goes on. International liberalism (in the markets sense, not the stupid political meaning sense) failed to justify to voters it's continued existence. Capitalism choked. Now, it's divided and every faction will fight itself as the ship sinks.
That's nice and I agree but we're talking about the consquences of Trump electing the CIA spook as Secretary of State and making the Director of the CIA literally a crone who tortured multiple people through waterboarding, electroshock, force feeding, etc.
The election has nothing to do with this besides, fools who said Trump was "anti war" were hilariously mistaken and missed the point of his gasoline fire.
I can't believe anyone thought the buffoon wouldn't end up like this.
>a)US foreign policy executed competently, nuclear exchange remains limited, rivals cowed, America gets to keep hegemony
>b)US foreign policy completely botched, rivals are emboldened, nuclear exchange and imperialist fight are total and desperate, America and the world are ruined
If destroying the world is what it takes to topple America, then all of the world must die.
I TRIED SO HARD, AND GOT SO FAR
IN THE END
What the hell are you even talking about? I was just criticizing the liberal one-trick pony show that has gotten as stale as this image. The people in those images were mad at people to their left who wouldn't go along with their chauvinist campaign, not the fact that Trump is putting spooks in his cabinet as if that really makes a difference tbh
Great plan there buddy A+, start a doomsday cult
He's right though. Either it must or musn't be. What's the alternative?
>as if that really makes a difference tbh
It does actually, since Tilerson did not want to escalate with Iran, and you know, this guy has directly said "We need to go to war with Iran"
So, it matters. I know we're used to "nunna this sheet matters mayn" but really, we're more likely to go to war with Iran now than we were before this morning, within the near future.
That and the CIA is run by a legitimate psychopath who condescended to her torture victims ON DISCLOSED RECORD
>Shut up, you're acting
>You're a great actor, I don't believe those tears for a second
Not destroying the world lol
Whoever said "anti trump rhetoric" needs to be put in a room with the new CIA director
I have never seen such a pic, but pretend I posted a shoop of the Scooby Doo gang unmasking Posadas.
Real liberal hours. How gullible are you dunces? Russiagate is entirely a show put on by the establishment of both parties to obfuscate the fact that they lost to a reality show host.
LADIES AND GENTLEMAN
MEET OUR NEW CIA DIRECTOR, SOMEHOW, WORSE THAN THE OLD ONE. NEW CAR SMELL, WORKED IN A CIA BLACK SITE IN THAILAND
PERSONALLY ORDERED THE WATER BOARDING AND TORTURE OF THE SAME MAN 83 FUCKING TIMES IN A GOD DAMN 31 DAY MONTH
ORDERED ALL TAPES AND DOCUMENTS TO BE DESTROYED AND INCINERATED
SHE HAS INTERNATIONAL POWER TO START COUPS NOW, DO ALL SORTS OF SHIT
AND ALL OF YOU ARE TAKING THIS THAT LIGHTLY?? WE HAVEN'T HAD SOMEONE THIS FUCKING AWFUL SINCE THE COLD WAR!
Wrong picture but equally appropriate
Here it is
In fact, Trump already this morning:
>Trump: “We should have a new force called the Space Force. It’s like the Army and the Navy, but for space, because we’re spending a lot of money on space. We need missiles, and everything.”
People (paranoid conservatives and liberals) spit this dream at every election because eight years changes a whole hellova lot (loooooool). The party system isn't going away chumps. They know this because it's ancient history. Any attempt at creating one party will inevitably split into two vis a vis the jefferson republicans. The two parties trading off quid pro quo and seeming like they hate each other is all part of the game.
Seeya in 2040 when nothing has fucking changed but we'll be shitposting in VR pods so I guess it doesn't matter
>Letting Porky have his way
>Not having anything at all and relieving the tension
Deposing the bourgeoisie is the most favorable outcome, however only they and their slaves would root for them against nothing.
A shitty attempt I cat get enough noise in photoshop.
Missing the deep fried effect and emojis.
>Trump Fires Rex Tillerson, Says CIA’s Pompeo to Become Secretary of State
>Trump fired his longtime personal assistant over an unspecified 'security issue'
Looks like its time to fire the US then >:^)
It's not over yet.
Trump considers ousting his VA secretary in Cabinet shuffle
>WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is considering ousting embattled Veterans Affairs Secretary David Shulkin, who has faced an insurgency within his department and fresh allegations that he used a member of his security detail to run personal errands.
>Trump has floated the notion of moving Energy Secretary Rick Perry to the VA to right the ship, believing Shulkin has become a distraction, according to two sources familiar with White House discussions. The sources were not authorized to discuss internal deliberations.
If Trump calls this "fake news", you know it's a done deal.
This is looking increasingly less like a Cabinet shuffle and more like a Cabinet 52 pickup.
Judge: Manafort could spend 'the rest of his life in prison'
>Paul Manafort, President Trump's former campaign chairman, could end up behind bars for the rest of his life if he is convicted of the charges against him, a federal judge said in an order made public on Tuesday.
>“Given the nature of the charges against the defendant and the apparent weight of the evidence against him, defendant faces the very real possibility of spending the rest of his life in prison,” District Judge T.S. Ellis III wrote, according to Politico.
Manafort could be spending 305 years in prison if Virginia finds him guilty.
Fuck Obama for ever letting these people go, now they're in god damn high global political power
Can't tell whether or not he's gonna get it or not.
I would guess a minimum of 60 years. Those fraud charges carry a maximum 30 year sentience and Manafort has NINE of them.
Would the pic accelerate global warming or slow it?
The ash cloud blotting the sun would actually result in global cooling
>You can't just imprison the thousands of American socdems without raising eyebrows
Have you heard about something called '20th century history?'
>b-but trump is not establishment
<im 12 and what is this
<i voted for hillary/jill stein
<when the dems are in office I stop watching politics because everything is OK
>WE HAVEN'T HAD SOMEONE THIS FUCKING AWFUL SINCE THE COLD WAR!
Fucking hysteric, where were you the last 20 years?
There's not much point in arguing, every time a president with an (R) in front of his name gets elected liberals rediscover how fucking terrible America actually is. You can't convince them that the Democratic Party actually is as awful as the Republican one maybe even worse when it comes to imperialist wars/foreign policies
Stephen Hawking dies aged 76
Stephen Hawking has died at the age of 76, his family has said.
RIP in peace, proF
Hawking wanted fully-automated luxury communism
German police carry out nationwide raids on Turkish nationalist boxing club
>Hundreds of police officers have taken part in raids across Germany targeting the Osmanen Germania boxing club. Officials say the group is involved in violent crime and has ties to Turkish President Erdogan's government.
German authorities seized data storage devices, narcotic drugs and weapons in nationwide raids on Tuesday against members of the Osmanen Germania boxing gang.
More than 1,000 police officers searched over 60 properties in the states of North Rhine-Westphalia (NRW), Baden-Württemberg and Hesse.
The Interior Ministry orchestrated the raids, suspecting the Osmanen Germania — officially registered as a boxing club — of orchestrating illegal activities.
"Today's measures show that the federal and state governments will not tolerate criminal activity, regardless of social background," said outgoing Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere.
Among other things, the gang is accused of using violence to expand its power and territorial influence in certain cities as well as violent "self-assertion" against other groups.
"We're observing the scene very closely and will not allow ourselves to be blinded by these organizations," said NRW state Interior Minister Herbert Reul. The bulk of the raids took place in cities in the populous, western German state, including in Essen, Cologne, Duisburg and Wuppertal.
The goal of Tuesday's raids was to better understand the group's structure and activities.
Ties to Erdogan
Osmanen Germania has 22 local chapters across Germany and around 300 members, many with Turkish roots.
Since its founding in 2015, Osmanen Germania has become one of the fastest-growing gang-like groups in the country.
Eight alleged members of the group are currently on trial in Stuttgart for attempted murder, attempted manslaughter, extortion, forced prostitution and pimping.
According to the NRW Interior Ministry, Osmanen Germania also has strong ties to the government of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his ruling AKP party.
The group is known for its Turkish nationalist and right-wing extremist beliefs. It has clashed with Kurdish groups in the past and opposes left-wing extremist Turks and the Gulen movement — which Erdogan blames on a failed coup attempt in July 2016.
Turkish authorities regard Osmanen Germania as an organization that "combats terrorism," Reul said.
rs/cmk (AFP, dpa)
rip in peace
Also with the extremely coincidental circumstances surrounding the Russian Spy Poisoning, I wouldn't be too surprised if Hawking died of a little more than "natural causes" given that he was spearheading an effort to take Hunt to High Court over ACOs in the NHS
This is terrible
>one party state
>implying its not already like that
>Corbyn getting accused of being a Kremlin plant and demands for him to step down are picking up
this is not what happened at all, the over a dozen US military bases in Syria thought the Russians would safeguard them in Afrin as they had done for the past few years but they were betrayed to appease the little sultan
Can someone explain why Erdogan seems to care so much about Afrin and Manbij compared to the over a dozen US military bases in Syria-held territories east of the Euphrates?
Turkey is in NATO and direct action by the great powers against it is extremely unlikely, so the even if Erdogan didn't like there being US bases in Syria they are not a direct threat to him, just another piece of the power games going on in the region
However there are a huge number of Kurds living in Turkey, Southern Turkey in particular, and Erdogan fears a Kurdish state getting off the ground and establishing itself as a recognized country, as it would then have a significant ability to bring pressure against Turkeys repressive treatment of its Kurdish population and also likely give rise to movements in those areas for them to break from Turkey and go over to the Kurdish nation