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 No.2431758

Okay, so if there isn't only two genders, then exactly how many genders are there? Three? A hundred? A million? An infinite number?

How do you answer the question, "How many genders are there?"

 No.2431761

>>2431758

Gender is just a development of whatever culture of whatever society. So it depends.

In the west, there are two genders.


 No.2431762

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 No.2431763

>>2431758

>How do you answer the question, "How many genders are there?"

you don't. It's a dumb question and anybody who asks or answers to it should not be taken seriously.


 No.2431764

/pol/ fuck off


 No.2431784

There are zero genders.


 No.2431807

No one can be this undeliberatly retarded.


 No.2431808


 No.2431809

>>2431758

"None. There are only two sexes: Male and Female"


 No.2431810

Genders are a spook


 No.2431813

Transgenderism is bourgeois decadence


 No.2431816

Gender is highly bimodal and strongly correlated to sex. This suggest it is mostly biological and not really a social construct.

Obviously superficial aspects of gender (clothing, hair styles, etc) are culturally influenced, but not features like differences in aggression, agreeableness, upper body strength, etc. To some extent differences in material outcome are a result of these differences.


 No.2431817

>>2431758

In modern Western culture there are 2 genders. Other cultures throughout history have had more or no concept of gender at all. I'm not opposed to the inclusion of new genders. People who don't fit in with our binary interpretation aren't mentally ill but if you think you're part wolf, you just might be mentally ill.


 No.2431818

You got a dick or a hole. The rest doesn't really matter to me fam


 No.2431820

>>2431816

stfu shitlord acknowledge my pronouns or die


 No.2431822

So far there have been two answers (that aren't the number two)

>zero

>dodge the question by replying with a paragraph using socioeconomic talking points

I just want a number that's not two.


 No.2431825

>>2431822

How about just say "It's complicated" and leave it at that. Idk what you expect? There's 7.629 genders. Happy?


 No.2431828


 No.2431830

>>2431822

i gave you one, 2007. there are exactly two thousand and seven genders.


 No.2431833

>>2431825

I want the exact number. It shouldn't be hard. Science is able to measure all sorts of things with precision. I want the exact number and the names of the genders.


 No.2431834

>>2431830

Name them.


 No.2431837

Two: mumenim and kafarun


 No.2431845

>>2431820

James Damore did nothing wrong besides being a classcuck


 No.2431847

>>2431758

doesn't matter

have you ever taken a moment and thought about how petty the content of your "political" discourses are?

identity this, identity that. and it doesn't change shit but who can have some petty privileges over whom while maintaining the system of priviliges and exploitation itself.

>lol i showed those faggots! i called them mentally ill, i bet that liberal manager is going to be so triggered and mad it will ruin his day!

yeah, i can see the ruling class shaking in terror at your edgy remarks


 No.2431848

>>2431758

Gender is a spook, nerdstein.


 No.2431849

>>2431834

Abimegender: a gender that is profound, deep, and infinite; meant to resemble when one mirror is reflecting into another mirror creating an infinite paradox

Adamasgender: a gender which refuses to be categorized

Aerogender: a gender that is influenced by your surroundings

Aesthetigender: a gender that is derived from an aesthetic; also known as videgender

Affectugender: a gender that is affected by mood swings

Agender: the feeling of no gender/absence of gender or neutral gender

Agenderflux: Being agender and having fluctuating feelings of masculinity of femininity, but NOT male or female

Alexigender: a gender that is fluid between more than one gender but the individual cannot tell what those genders are

Aliusgender: a gender which is removed from common gender descriptors and guidelines

Amaregender: a gender that changes depending on who you’re in love with

Ambigender: defined as having the feeling of two genders simultaneously without fluctuation; meant to reflect the concept of being ambidextrous, only with gender

Ambonec: identifying as both man and woman, yet neither at the same time

Amicagender: a gender that changes depending on which friend you’re with

Androgyne: sometimes used in the case of “androgynous presentation”; describes the feeling of being a mix of both masculine and feminine (and sometimes neutral) gender qualities

Anesigender: feeling like a certain gender yet being more comfortable identifying with another

Angenital: a desire to be without primary sexual characteristics, without necessarily being genderless; one may be both angenital and identify as any other gender alongside

Anogender: a gender that fades in and out but always comes back to the same feeling

Anongender: a gender that is unknown to both yourself and others

Antegender: a protean gender which has the potential to be anything, but is formless and motionless, and therefore, does not manifest as any particular gender

Anxiegender: a gender that is affected by anxiety

Apagender: a feeling of apathy towards ones gender which leads to them not looking any further into it

Apconsugender: a gender where you know what it isn’t, but not what it is; the gender is hiding itself from you

Astergender: a gender that feels bright and celestial

Astralgender: a gender that feels connected to space

Autigender: a gender that can only be understood in the context of being autistic. Meant for autistic people only.

Autogender: a gender experience that is deeply personal to oneself

Axigender: when a person experiences two genders that sit on opposite ends of an axis; one being agender and the other being any other gender; these genders are experienced one at a time with no overlapping and with very short transition time.

Bigender: the feeling of having two genders either at the same time or separately; usually used to describe feeling “traditionally male” and “traditionally female”, but does not have to

Biogender: a gender that feels connected to nature in some way

Blurgender: the feeling of having more than one gender that are somehow blurred together to the point of not being able to distinguish or identify individual genders; synonymous with genderfuzz

Boyflux: when one feels mostly or all male most of the time but experience fluctuating intensity of male identity

Burstgender: and gender that comes in intense bursts of feeling and quickly fades back to the original state


 No.2431850

>>2431849

>>2431834

Caelgender: a gender which shares qualities with outer space or has the aesthetic of space, stars, nebulas, etc.

Cassgender: the feeling of gender is unimportant to you

Cassflux: when the level of indifference towards your gender fluctuates

Cavusgender: for people with depression; when you feel one gender when not depressed and another when depressed

Cendgender: when your gender changes between one and its opposite

Ceterofluid: when you are ceterogender and your feelings fluctuate between masculine, feminine, and neutral

Ceterogender: a nonbinary gender with specific masculine, feminine, or neutral feelings

Cisgender: the feeling of being the gender you were assigned at birth, all the time (assigned (fe)male/feeling (fe)male)

Cloudgender: a gender that cannot be fully realized or seen clearly due to depersonalization/derealization disorder

Collgender: the feeling of having too many genders simultaneously to describe each one

Colorgender: a gender associated with one or more colors and the feelings, hues, emotions, and/or objects associated with that color; may be used like pinkgender, bluegender, yellowgender

Commogender: when you know you aren’t cisgender, but you settled with your assigned gender for the time being

Condigender: a gender that is only felt during certain circumstances

Deliciagender: from the Latin word delicia meaning “favorite”, meaning the feeling of having more than one simultaneous gender yet preferring one that fits better

Demifluid: the feeling your gender being fluid throughout all the demigenders; the feeling of having multiple genders, some static and some fluid

Demiflux: the feeling of having multiple genders, some static and some fluctuating

Demigender: a gender that is partially one gender and partially another

Domgender: having more than one gender yet one being more dominant than the others

Demi-vapor (term coined by @cotton-blossom-jellyfish): Continuously drifting to other genders, feeling spiritually transcendental when doing so while having a clear -slightly blurred- inner visual of your genders, transitions, and positive emotions. Tied to Demi-Smoke.

Demi-smoke (term coined by @cotton-blossom-jellyfish): A transcendental, spiritual gender roughly drifting to other genders that are unable to be foreseen and understood, shrouded in darkness within your inner visual. Elevating through mystery. Caused by a lack of inner interpretation and dark emotional states. Tied to Demi-Vapor.

Duragender: from the Latin word dura meaning “long-lasting”, meaning a subcategory of multigender in which one gender is more identifiable, long lasting, and prominent than the other genders

Egogender: a gender that is so personal to your experience that it can only be described as “you”

Epicene: sometimes used synonymously with the adjective “androgynous”; the feeling either having or not displaying characteristics of both or either binary gender; sometimes used to describe feminine male identifying individuals

Espigender: a gender that is related to being a spirit or exists on a higher or extradimensional plane

Exgender: the outright refusal to accept or identify in, on, or around the gender spectrum

Existigender: a gender that only exists or feels present when thought about or when a conscious effort is made to notice it

Femfluid: having fluctuating or fluid gender feelings that are limited to feminine genders

Femgender: a nonbinary gender which is feminine in nature

Fluidflux: the feeling of being fluid between two or more genders that also fluctuate in intensity; a combination of genderfluid and genderflux

Gemigender: having two opposite genders that work together, being fluid and flux together

Genderblank: a gender that can only be described as a blank space; when gender is called into question, all that comes to mind is a blank space


 No.2431854

>>2431849

>>2431850

lol. Go the fuck back to reddit

>>2431758

Two. Pussy or cock.


 No.2431855

>>2431849

>>2431834

>>2431850

Genderflow: a gender that is fluid between infinite feelings

Genderfluid: the feeling of fluidity within your gender identity; feeling a different gender as time passes or as situations change; not restricted to any number of genders

Genderflux: the feeling of your gender fluctuating in intensity; like genderfluid but between one gender and agender

Genderfuzz: coined by lolzmelmel; the feeling of having more than one gender that are somehow blurred together to the point of not being able to distinguish or identify individual genders; synonymous with blurgender

Gender Neutral: the feeling of having a neutral gender, whether somewhere in between masculine and feminine or a third gender that is separate from the binary; often paired with neutrois

Genderpunk: a gender identity that actively resists gender norms

Genderqueer: originally used as an umbrella term for nonbinary individuals; may be used as an identity; describes a nonbinary gender regardless of whether the individual is masculine or feminine leaning

Genderwitched: a gender in which one is intrigued or entranced by the idea of a particular gender, but is not certain that they are actually feeling it

Girlflux: when one feels mostly or all female most of the time but experiences fluctuating intensities of female identity

Glassgender: a gender that is very sensitive and fragile

Glimragender: a faintly shining, wavering gender

Greygender: having a gender that is mostly outside of the binary but is weak and can barely be felt

Gyragender: having multiple genders but understanding none of them

Healgender: a gender that once realized, brings lots of peace, clarity, security, and creativity to the individual’s mind

Heliogender: a gender that is warm and burning

Hemigender: a gender that is half one gender and half something else; one or both halves may be identifiable genders

Horogender: a gender that changes over time with the core feeling remaining the same

Hydrogender: a gender which shares qualities with water

Imperigender: a fluid gender that can be controlled by the individual

Intergender: the feeling of gender falling somewhere on the spectrum between masculine and feminine. Meant for intersex people only

Juxera: a feminine gender similar to girl, but on a separate plane and off to itself

Libragender: a gender that feels agender but has a strong connection to another gender

Magigender: a gender that is mostly gender and the rest is something else

Mascfluid: A gender that is fluid in nature, and restricted only to masculine genders

Mascgender: a non-binary gender which is masculine in nature.

Maverique: taken from the word maverick; the feeling of having a gender that is separate from masculinity, femininity, and neutrality, but is not agender; a form of third gender

Mirrorgender: a gender that changes to fit the people around you

Molligender: a gender that is soft, subtle, and subdued

Multigender: the feeling of having more than one simultaneous or fluctuating gender; simultaneous with multigenderand omnigender

Nanogender: feeling a small part of one gender with the rest being something else

Neutrois: the feeling of having a neutral gender; sometimes a lack of gender that leads to feeling neutral

Nonbinary: originally an umbrella term for any gender outside the binary of cisgenders; may be used as an individual identity; occasionally used alongside of genderqueer


 No.2431857

>>2431849

>>2431834

>>2431850

>>2431854

>>2431855

Omnigender: the feeling of having more than one simultaneous or fluctuating gender; simultaneous with multigenderand polygender

Oneirogender: coined by anonymous, “being agender, but having recurring fantasies or daydreams of being a certain gender without the dysphoria or desire to actually be that gender day-to-day”

Pangender: the feeling of having every gender; this is considered problematic by some communities and thus has been used as the concept of relating in some way to all genders as opposed to containing every gender identity; only applies to genders within one’s own culture

Paragender: the feeling very near one gender and partially something else which keeps you from feeling fully that gender

Perigender: identifying with a gender but not as a gender

Polygender: the feeling of having more than one simultaneous or fluctuating gender; simultaneous with multigenderand omnigender

Proxvir: a masculine gender similar to boy, but on a separate plane and off to itself

Quoigender: feeling as if the concept of gender is inapplicable or nonsensical to one’s self

Subgender: mostly agender with a bit of another gender

Surgender: having a gender that is 100% one gender but with more of another gender added on top of that

Systemgender: a gender that is the sum of all the genders within a multiple or median system

Tragender: a gender that stretches over the whole spectrum of genders

Transgender: any gender identity that transcends or does not align with your assigned gender or society’s idea of gender; the feeling of being any gender that does not match your assigned gender

Transneutral: A term used to describe transgender people who were assigned male or female at birth, but identify with neutral gendered feelings to a greater extent than with femininity or masculinity. It is used the same way as “transfeminine” or “transmasculine”, but for neutral feelings. It can be used to describe gendered feelings, or as a gender itself.

Trigender: the feeling of having three simultaneous or fluctuating genders

Vapogender: a gender that sort of feels like smoke; can be seen on a shallow level but once you go deeper, it disappears and you are left with no gender and only tiny wisps of what you thought it was

Venngender: when two genders overlap creating an entirely new gender; like a venn diagram

Verangender: a gender that seems to shift/change the moment it is identified

Vibragender: a gender that is usually one stable gender but will occasionally changes or fluctuate before stabilizing again

Vocigender: a gender that is weak or hollow

and also

Akava'ine Bakla Bissu Calabai Fa'afafine Fakaleiti Hijra Kathoey Khanith Koekchuch Māhū Maknyah Mukhannathun Muxe

skip a few, two thousand!


 No.2431859

>>2431822

the issue here isn't that we don't acknowledge gender

it's that you think that it matters how many you count

you are as delusional as any other faggot replying with any number


 No.2431861

There are zero genders. Gender is just behavioural expectations assigned to people based on their sex. The entire problem can be avoided if you just call people by their biological sex and stop giving a fuck about how they dress or act. This is why I really don’t understand non binary people, I can get not identifying with the things traditionally associated with your sex, but I don’t see why this means they have to insist that they don’t have a gender. Think back to the 90s and imagine if every tough girl who liked sports insisted that she wasn’t a girl because she was tough and liked sports. Ironically enough this kind of shit only reenforces traditional gender roles by telling people that they should reject their gender if their interests diverge from traditional roles.

Also body dysphoria is mental illness. If I told you that I hated my legs and wanted them amputated then you would call me a crazy person, and rightly so.


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 No.2431873

>>2431861

let's amuse this useless non-leftist little discussion here

the first part i can agree on, the second not so much

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_transsexuality

don't throw in lazy false equivalences, adress the specific disorder on its own terms


 No.2431874

>>2431869

why french tho?


 No.2431875

File: ae86a4020b9b048⋯.jpg (35.16 KB, 460x328, 115:82, rh8v4Wd.jpg)

There are zero genders because it's bullshit pseudoscience peddled by a disgraced psychologist responsible for what is to this day the most disastrous experiment in the field, and there are two sexes with intersex people as outliers.


 No.2431881

>>2431875

t. reactionary


 No.2431887

>>2431861

also the dismissive use and lack of understanding of "mental illness" fails to adress the nature of these things.

gender is a "social construct", sure, but this fails to explain what that even means, it doesn't magically undo the existence of this construction itself and proclaiming it as something to be "opposed" in oder to fix it is just further idealistic faggotry.

too many kids here throw around words just to feel satisfied with themself.


 No.2431894

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/http:/www.dca.gov.uk/constitution/transsex/policy.htm

>It is not a mental illness. It is a condition considered in itself to be free of other pathology (though transsexual people can suffer depression or illnesses like anyone else).


 No.2431900

Somewhere between six and 8000000000, depending on how strict you are with the definition of a given gender - stricter definitions lead to more genders, whereas looser definitions lead to fewer genders.


 No.2431905

>>2431881

That's a funny way to spell "correct".

Tho I suppose I should have added transex as outliers too, but honestly, I'm not fully convinced it's an actual condition in itself, as opposed to a particular manifestation of body dysmorphia or apotemnophilia.


 No.2431907

>>2431849

>>2431850

>>2431855

>>2431857

Are these theoretical, or can you name factual individuals living or deceased who are or were these genders?


 No.2431908

>>2431861

>Gender is just behavioural expectations assigned to people based on their sex. The entire problem can be avoided if you just call people by their biological sex

Help me out, I might be a little slow. If a call someone a "man", am I calling him by his gender or his sex?


 No.2431913

>>2431905

that's a very long winded way of saying "i am a massive poof"


 No.2431914

>>2431758

Its a spectrum


 No.2431918

>>2431908

I would say gender, just for the sake of differentiating between the two. Man is a gender, male is a sex. However what I would like to see is gender and sex decoupled from each other, so that somebody would identify as a man because of their biology regardless of their sexual preferences, how they liked to dress, behaviour etc. To me that would solve this whole issue without devolving into the infinite gender insanity or the minefield of bathrooms and all this other stupid shit.


 No.2431927

>>2431873

From reading this it sounds like the primary factors are biological, rooted in the structure and chemistry of the brain, which is the cause of other recognized illnesses such as schizophrenia.


 No.2431929

>>2431918

>Man is a gender, male is a sex.

That seems backwards. Male can be naturally used as an adjective, and is connected to the word "masculine" which is likewise an adjective. "Man" is always naturally used as a noun, and is thus more definite. "Men" are "the male sex".

It's funny how homocentric this is. We call male dogs "males" or "male canines"; but we only call humans "men". We don't say "men dogs" or "canine men".

I cannot agree that "man" is a gender.


 No.2431935

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>>2431758

Genders don't exist at all. The hole concept is spooked as shit. Fuck that!


 No.2431945

>>2431935

How is it a concept, when there's evidence suggesting that the only way naturally procreate is with cross-gender sexual activity during female ovulation duration?


 No.2431961

>>2431945

I, in no way, doubt that genders do have efffects on physical reality that can be measured.

However, when you are talking about genders, you never only talk about it as a sum of components that actually represent physical reality, but things like an avaluation /by morals) or identification (by your psyche) are aslo always at play.

Otherwise there wouldn't really be much to talk about, since having a gender would have no consequences on a being without ideology, not more then the information about having fingers would have.


 No.2431962

Man is the only gender.

Women are deceptive, masquerading. fabrications.


 No.2431963

This question is spooked. Your gender is whatever you feel like (or usually just intuitively know) it is, and it's such a vague concept that there's a stupidly large number of ways to describe it.


 No.2431964

>>2431961

Look, pal, just give me a number instead of all this mumbojumbo. I didn't ask about how many psyches there are.


 No.2431965

>>2431964

n o n e

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 No.2431966

>>2431963

I have a red ball and a blue ball.

>How many balls do I have?

<This question is spooked. What makes up a ball is not discernable, as ball is a vague concept. Neither object confoms perfectly to a ball. It's a spectrum at best. You cannot even be sure the objects are objects themselves, nor unto themselves, nor within themselves. This is mere perception, which is a spook.

>What color are the balls?

<No one can say, as color is a spook. There is a spectrum of colors, so one could say red and blue, just as easily as they could say yellow and magenta, or even say they are the same color and that color is kabiblejark.

Thanks.


 No.2431970

>>2431966

hey, thats not a fair metaphor.

the question what color a ball is, or how many of them are around, are easy questions.

what gender is, is conplicated one. therefore you get a complicated answer


 No.2431974

File: 373b8936d585ec1⋯.png (651.57 KB, 792x417, 264:139, genderisadeadmeme.png)


 No.2431975

>>2431970

It's not complicated. I'm asking you to count the number of genders.


 No.2431979

>>2431963

>Your gender is whatever you feel like

I feel like a helicopter.


 No.2431980

File: b793dd22f615736⋯.png (487.66 KB, 1000x1050, 20:21, mentiondonaldtrumppol.png)


 No.2431996

>>2431758

4: masc male, femmy male, masc female, femmy female.


 No.2432000

>>2431996

Why are you using two factors?


 No.2432001

ZERO


 No.2432008

>>2432000

2 sexes X 2 identifying traits of a sex = 4 genders.


 No.2432012

>>2432001

NIL

Zero is still a number, the value of genre is nil.


 No.2432014

>>2432008

Why are you introducing "identifying traits of sex" as a component of gender? Why are you saying gender is a function of sex?


 No.2432019

>>2432012

English language autism. Theres no seperate words for "no value" or "zero" in my language.

Also fock off, there is exactly 0 genders. There is not no data on genders.


 No.2432020

>>2432014

Because there are only two types of people; male and female, feminine and masculine. Trannies are still their original sex, but exhibit traits of the opposite sex.


 No.2432024

there are three types of people

people who vote labour

people who vote lib-dems in lib/con marginals

and kulaks


 No.2432025

File: 982ea040f2fb0d9⋯.jpg (27.72 KB, 211x255, 211:255, 8566ded405b73bd0531c210148….jpg)

>>2431980

That pic only makes sense when you are operating under the assumption that /pol/ is white


 No.2432026

>>2432020

>there are only two types of people

I take it you mean genders?


 No.2432029

File: 4e0c8076d48f36f⋯.jpg (129.62 KB, 600x441, 200:147, sexgenderdifference.jpg)


 No.2432030

>>2432026

No. All people can be categorized as masculine or feminine, or something in between. Like people who are right and left wing, with centrists in the middle mirroring those who exhibit a good mixture of masculinity and femininity.


 No.2432037

>>2432029

>posts a picture of two genders

Okay.


 No.2432042

>>2432029

>Look, I'm dismantling rightwing propaganda by promoting rightwing propaganda about the gender binary.

Eat shit brainlet.


 No.2432044

>>2432030

>can be characterized

By who? Science can only characterize humans (actually all mammalia) as chromosomally male or chromosomally female.

>something in between

There is no evidence this exists along scientific definitions.


 No.2432053

>>2432044

Gender, by my definition, is a subclassification of the biological sex a person is. A person wears dresses, fucks dudes, and identifies as feminine, he is a feminine man separate from a masculine man. I'm not implying there can be anything in between male and female, but there can be someone extremely feminine as a man.


 No.2432055

>>2432019

It was more of a programming analogy, but yeah you're right about the autism though.


 No.2432056

>>2432053

>Gender, by my definition, is a subclassification of the biological sex a person is.

Thats retarded though


 No.2432062

>>2432055

Null is evil, use discriminatory unions instead of null refferences


 No.2432076

>>2432053

>by my definition

So how many sexes are there?


 No.2432088

>>2432076

2.

>>2432056

Well, got something better? Gender is a combination of a person's behavior, self-image, and biological sex. It can't be the same thing as sex, but it should definitely be coherent in its definition with the biological and unchangeable concept of sex.


 No.2432100

>>2432088

>Gender is a combination of a person's behavior, self-image, and biological sex

Says who?


 No.2432108

>>2432088

>Well, got something better?

Gender is a retarded made up category to divide people into easily stereotyped, discriminated and classified groups just like races. It serves no purpose and the endless masturbation over what genders there are is the same kind of masturbatory bullshit like white nationalists debating if cubans or russians are white or how much % black you have to be to be black, or if arabs are white or not.


 No.2432112

>>2431833

You are literally retarded


 No.2432118

>>2432042

>facts are rightwing propoganda T-T


 No.2432125

>>2432088

>Well, got something better?

Yes.

Gender…is a grammatical term only. To talk of persons…of the masculine or feminine g[ender], meaning of the male or female sex, is either a jocularity (permissible or not according to context) or a blunder.

–Henry Watson Fowler, 1926

The word "gender" is an English-language mistake. The word originally meant the same as "genus", thus using "gender" could be like saying "type", and thus you might say I prefer this gender of music, or this gender of food, or this gender of colors. It should be used as "sexual gender", ie "sexual type", which is now redundant. In short, there is only sex: male and female.


 No.2432136

>>2432125

I forgot to add: the use of "gender" as a synonym for "sex" arose because the word "sex" got deemed lewd as it came to be used as short for sexual intercourse as in "to have sex".


 No.2432137

>>2432108

But that's wrong, you fucking retard. Gender can change, sex and race cannot. There's no denying the fact that society divides people into many categories. So what? As long as people are happy and nobody's getting genocided or exploited, i see no problem with it. Anyways, it should be obvious that gender has a real place in society. Many people voluntarily categorize themselves by gender or behavior. There will always be feminine housewives and masculine construction workers, and dominant and submissive partners in relationships. People voluntarily categorize themselves like this. There are people who choose to work hard in fields to feed people at home, there are people at home that choose to stay in the kitchen all day and vacuum floors and do laundry. These don't have to be biological, males and females can easily switch these roles. Gender is different, however. It depends heavily on a person's identity and social interaction. There are plenty of males who would gladly work at home all day raising kids or whatever. There are surely plenty of women who wish to work in coal mines or outside in fields (although i've never met any), and most of these people end up being happy, so long as they can choose their own roles in society. Socialize more and you'll realize this.


 No.2432139

>>2432125

>let's just pretend the english language isn't alive and the meaning of words don't change so that we can move back to a past definition of a word so that it fits my narrative!


 No.2432141

"who cares" is the correct answer

let people do what they want

stop being a cuckold, get off /pol/


 No.2432142

>>2432139

Who is defining the words? You're saying people are just making up new realities as they go along, instead of studying concrete reality as scientists?


 No.2432147

>>2431758

Marx believed that the material base determines the socio-cultural superstructure, not the other way around. This implies that the gender roles are determined primarily by biology rather than by culture, contrary to what transgenders and feminists like to claim. Therefore, the transgender ideology is radically anti-Marxist.


 No.2432148

File: 45fe634bbb3c43a⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 255.19 KB, 1024x1112, 128:139, 45fe634bbb3c43a4dd9d9854d8….jpg)

>>2431850

>>2431849

>>2431855

>>2431857

Top Tier shitposting.

I would have never Imagined that a SocDem would be able to achieve this awesomeness.


 No.2432150

>>2432142

Gender has, in recent years, come to describe much more than the sexual aspect of a person. It usually describes a person's identity and behavior from a young age, as well as their sexuality. You literally can't change the definition back to what it originally was, and you can't change it to mean the same thing as sex.


 No.2432155

>>2432147

Best post in the thread.

>>2432150

This is the liberal-free-market-capitalist mentality.

By the way

>YOU can't change the definition back to what it really means, but WE have now changed it by using it wrong enough times

2+2=5, right?


 No.2432159

>>2432137

>Race cant change

Race is litterally made up

300 years ago irish people were considered to be subhumans and non-white. The nazis considered slavs to be subhuman and Mediterranean too. Most of the world doesnt even believe in american races and the definitions of races change all the time. Its completely made up to fit whatever political agenda exists at a given time.

>So what?

Deviding people into groups that dont exist will force people who dont fit in said groups to be marginalized and forced to change be excluded. They will also keep making up new groups and form exclusive groups around these arbatrary groups. Why is this bad? Because group forming causes friction and societal conflict. My language has a word for it, verzuiling, wherein people will form identities and communities around said identities and exclude people not part of said identities and create echochambers and hate for the other groups because humans are tribal shitmonkeys who easily fall for hating and blaming "the other".

>Anyways, it should be obvious that gender has a real place in society.

No it fucking doesnt. The entire concept of gender is causes misery among many people, because gigantic amounts of people feel "wrong" or are marginalized because they do not follow the prescriptive defitinitions of the established bullshit catagories.

>Many people voluntarily categorize themselves by gender or behavior.

Many people voluntarily catagorize themselves as the master race, that doesnt mean it is real.

>Some bullshit about manly men and feminine women

>But if you dont like these 2 restrictive arbatrary groups, I made two new groups for you, you can switch! Now you have to choose between being a manly men or a feminine man! Arent you happy? So much choice!

The fact that I have to choose between your retarded cunt ass categories is the entire problem. Take your gender divisive bullshit and shove it up your ass. Gender is not real, stop trying to force people into catagories.

>Snarky comment that implies a negative social thing

I hope you get aids


 No.2432161

>>2432159

>irish people were considered to be subhumans and non-white. The nazis considered slavs to be subhuman and Mediterranean too.

It is true that they were considered subhuman, but they still were considered white


 No.2432165

>On no please give me a number, things that I can't quantify are too confusing for my autistic brain to understand.

Fortunately there really are only two genders: biological females and biological males.

>>2432161

This makes sense since all whites are subhuman


 No.2432168

>>2432161

Shouldn't have said "white", because white didnt exist back then. It was invented in america in the 17th century and enforced in the 18th. It never was a thing in europe.


 No.2432177

>>2432147

There are studies out there that show genetics play a part in being trans. If this is the case, transgenderism and Marxism are by no means incompatible.


 No.2432179

>>2432159

>some people are miserable because our current categorization system is inaccurate and does not represent them, therefore we must abolish categorization entirely! This is totally the right way to do things, right guys?


 No.2432185

>>2432179

Yes, it literally is.

>Benefits of catagories:

<None

>Downside of categories:

<Social conflict

<Discrimination

<Exclusion

<Division

<Conformist pressure on people

<Identity politics


 No.2432186

>>2432185

>no benefits to categorization

What about the fact that we've used the categories for a long time and doing away with them would be confusing to me?

Surely, that outweighs all of your downsides?


 No.2432188

>>2432177

>studies

Post them.


 No.2432189

>>2432185

There is no benefit in labeling one piece of food a "banana" versus another piece of food an "apple". Abolish names for all things.


 No.2432190

>>2431758

> "How many genders are there?"

2 Plus hermaphrodites if democrats want to ever have another us president

Unlimited if they are cool with being insignificant especially as msm crumbles.


 No.2432192

>>2432188

I just skim read the wikipedia page on the causes of transgenderism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_transsexuality), which probably makes me the most well read on the topic ITT.


 No.2432194

>>2432186

>What about the fact that we've used the categories for a long time and doing away with them would be confusing to me?

Reminds me of how supposedly telling children that men can love men is confusing.

>>2432189

Bananas and apples are different species, demonstrable scientifically different and separate. Gender is arbitrary pseudo-scientific bullshit. Furthermore, bananas and apples are not people and thus cannot suffer any downsides to being miscategorised.


 No.2432195

>>2432042

Tell me oh wise one what is the 3rd sex in human species?


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 No.2432202

>>2432194

So is it a social construct? Guess what bud, social constructs are real.


 No.2432203

File: 0cf3e23ef8f0112⋯.png (205.43 KB, 245x380, 49:76, 0cf3e23ef8f01124971b759585….png)

>>2432202

>Guess what bud, social constructs are real.


 No.2432206

>>2432203

The interaction between humans is most definitely real. Society in general is a social construct, it is the large-scale interaction between humans across the globe. Still, it is a social construct.


 No.2432207

>>2432203

To and extent they are right? I mean think about money, pure social construct build around will to power.


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 No.2432210

>>2432203

It's true in a trivial sense. The example that normos like to give is fiat currency. Social constructs refer to things that most people treat as real. The concepts are real in that the exist as concepts.

What normos don't get is that people understand that saying gender isn't really doesn't deny that gender is a concept that we can talk about or a system that we can use to classify people, but that gender as a thing in the world does not exist.


 No.2432212

File: da370f8a5f19051⋯.jpg (149.94 KB, 523x452, 523:452, da370f8a5f190519562ebef1a1….jpg)

>>2431758

who cares


 No.2432213

>>2432210

Society is a social construct too…


 No.2432214

>>2432206

>>2432207

>>2432210

The whole thing about a social construct is that they are not real, they are just ideas that we agree to go along with as if they are real, like property rights. They do not exist, and if we choose to stop believing or following them, they seize to matter.

Saying "social constructs are real" is both false and its implication that "therefore we cannot change them" is both moronic and opposed to everything marxism says.


 No.2432217

>>2431849

>>2431850

>>2431855

>>2431857

now this is effortshitposting

socdem is stakhanovite gang


 No.2432219

Dissociating body and mind is idealist retardation. Your "gender" is not free from your sex.


 No.2432222

>>2432194

>Gender is bullshit.

No, gender is just another word for sex. See here: >>2432125

>>2432202

Funny enough, that's what the argument is now: that gender is a social construct and that's enough justification for there to be more than two genders: because enough people think that's how it is, despite the scientific reality.


 No.2432223

>>2432214

Your claims are self-contradistinctionary since you acknowledge that there are social constructs and that you can get rid of them or change them in your first sentence.


 No.2432224

>>2432214

Saying that "social constructs aren't real" is applying a definition of "real" that the average person doesn't use. It makes you look like a sophist or a retard. You can worry about what Marx would think of your discussions about gender when you're talking with Marxists. Explain what you mean by real or assume the definition you know the person you're talking to is using. I'd go with the latter since your average lib can't even understand that Marxism isn't unfreedom much less that his idea of reality is fucked.


 No.2432226

>>2432223

???

How the fuck is saying that a social construct exists in our collective minds and that they arent based in reality and that we should get rid of it, in any way contradictory?

>>2432224

>Saying that "social constructs aren't real" is applying a definition of "real" that the average person doesn't use

Using this logic to dismiss arguments is retarded. You could then just as well say that we cannot say communism because "the avarage person" thinks communism is north korea + china + state capitalism


 No.2432228

>>2432226

You construe in your second sentence that social constructs are not real.


 No.2432230

Earlier i said gender was a social construct. It actually isn't. Instead, it is an epistemology. Oops!


 No.2432231

>>2432228

If you say there are pink donkeys flying in the sky, is that real?

No.

If lots of people say there are pink donkeys flying in the sky, is the idea of pink donkeys in the sky existing in our collective minds?

Yes

A social construct is not real because it is not reality. It is a societally shared framework for thought and ideas, not a real thing.


 No.2432235

>>2432226

You found logic in my argument that wasn't there. I didn't say that you should never use your own definitions and just go with the most popular definitions. I said that in this particular instance I would use the same definition of reality as your average /pol/ shitposter. Why? Because you don't need anything other than the typical liberal definition of reality to show that gender is arbitrary. If I were talking to some of my liberal friends who aren't stupid as shit, I would talk about reality with them. But I'm not.

Whether you should define your own terms or work with what you're given depends on your audience, the subject, the amount of time you have, etc.


 No.2432236

>>2432231

Has anyone ever told you how you argue in such bad faith?


 No.2432241

File: 56e43d036b54f70⋯.webm (3.12 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Giant Rubber Stamp.webm)

>>2432235

I expect a little more from this board than I do from /pol/, lad.

>>2432236

Has anyone ever told you to stop making retarded untrue claims without explaining why you think your claim is true? If you claim "your argument is X" then you have to say "because Y". Which you didnt, or EU poster didnt, whoever you are.

And I dont owe you shit at this time of day on this type of day, especially when you are retarded enough to say "Making meaningless catagories is good" or "social constructs are akshually real".


 No.2432244

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 No.2432248

>>2432241

Given the OP I'm assuming this thread is crawling with racist half-spics from /pol


 No.2432259

>>2432241

>meaningless categories

>social constructs have no effect on anything


 No.2432262

I'm just going to repost what I said before

Gender doesn't actually exist, all your saying when you say "I feel male" is that you feel male in the parameters you've set up for it. Sex exists, and I can show you the difference sexually between a man and a women, but when someone says "I identify as a women/man" there isn't anyway they can acually do so without setting up parameters for what that means. And this is all without actually sexually being a women/man. This boggles my mind as the idea that certain traits are now male/female would mean an "effiminate" man is now a women internally/in denial and all on a set basis of parameters that are made up from people who have never actually been the other sex, and so don't actually know what its like to "be" a women/man.


 No.2432264

>>2432262

Have you read the posts that argue that gender is tied together with sex and that behavior and self-identification as well as biological sex determine gender?


 No.2432265

>>2432259

>>social constructs have no effect on anything

I litterally did not say this, you are just making shit up to strawman me

I litterally said those meaningless catagories affect people negatively. They are meaningless in that they do not represent reality and arent neccecary.


 No.2432276

>>2432264

>that behavior and self-identification as well as biological sex determine gender?

I read the posts above, and this is stupid. Your relying on 3 factors, two of which are not materially determined and can shift, in order to specify something which in of itself is has no basis other then how you "feel". A guy can act in certain ways, a girl can act in certain ways. Neither of those things necessitate the use of a gender or a fantasy conception of what being male/female is.


 No.2432279

>>2432276

>A guy can act in certain ways, a girl can act in certain ways. Neither of those things necessitate the use of a gender

Why not? Why is gender as a description or categorization of "a guy can act in certain ways, a girl can act in certain ways" so abhorrent to you?


 No.2432280

>>2432276

What if gender was, in some instances, used in much the same manner as "introverted" or "jealous" or "peppy"? Why couldn't it partially be determined by how a person acts, or what they identify themselves as? Explain this.


 No.2432284

Why do so many delusional degenerate trannies flock to the far left when the current neoliberal regime not only caved into their demands but fully integrated them into the system? Who will actually be a far leftist in the coming years? Will it just be furfags and other "hyper marginalized" groups?

I hope you all burn in hell.


 No.2432285

>>2432280

I wish people would stop using introvert and extrovert tbh. It used to be somewhat usefull (ie the original introvert being having to recover from social interaction vs extrovert having to recover from lack of interaction) but people just use it like

>I am a fucking anxious depressed piece of shit who has autism which means I am introverted even though I get energy from social interactions

>>2432284

>Why do so many delusional degenerate trannies flock to the far left when the current neoliberal regime not only caved into their demands but fully integrated them into the system?

>far left

you mean neoliberal identity politics?

>Will it just be furfags

I thought furfags were nazis

>I hope you all burn in hell.

hell doesnt real


 No.2432286

>>2431758

infinite. because it's a completely made up concept. there is nothing to stop anyone from inventing a new gender at any time. i could, tomorrow, start calling myself a tacomorphic gender. and who could say i was wrong? none of the LGBTAWFNAIWEGOSNRTHDTJ faggots, that's for sure. and society is beginning to agree with them.


 No.2432288

>>2432285

My question is why are trannies so attracted to communism when capitalism already glorifies them and worships the ground their feet touch?


 No.2432292

>>2432288

Why would a mentally ill person have an illogical opinion or idea? How could such a thing happen?


 No.2432294

So to summarize the points of view ITT;

>gender is real and there is a finite number of them - 2, 4, 72…

>gender is real and there is an infinite number of them

>gender isn't real and it's just a tool of mean ol' oppression

>gender isn't real but we should pretend it is

Don't you guys think you're being a bit extreme? How about we try a dialectical method of arguin, instead of trying to force our points of view on eachother, when clearly nobody ITT is going to drift ideologically.


 No.2432297

>>2432288

>My question is why are trannies so attracted to communism when capitalism already glorifies them and worships the ground their feet touch?

Are they? Or is it just that you can only be politically active as a non-centrist and rightism is hostile towards trannies, forcing all politically active trannies to the far left?

Its just common sense bruv, its the same reason why gay people tend (or tended, before it became more normalized) to be left wing or even far left, instead of right wing. If you want some kinda change in society, then especially in america, you have to pick a side, so they all end up in the way-too-big group of "left".


 No.2432298

>>2432292

Well you're talking to a nazi…


 No.2432300

With 2


 No.2432301

File: 053fe75efd15486⋯.png (77.23 KB, 391x301, 391:301, 98054c9ec69cd498b3d7242f39….png)

>How many genders are there

This thread is leaking ectoplasm.


 No.2432304

>>2432301

If you won't contribute to the conversation, go away spooky boy.


 No.2432305

File: 1795d9f248d4649⋯.png (56.38 KB, 744x744, 1:1, tough luck spooked cuck.png)

>>2432294

>Don't you guys think you're being a bit extreme?

No.

Gender is retarded. It is useless, it is divisive, it leads to identity politics, it serves no positive purpose for anyone. I though we as /leftypol/ agreed on just one thing, and that is that identity politics is retarded, and that politics about identity and actively discussion about identity or actively identifying as something is identity politics as bad.

It was the only thing and is the only thing that ever unites this board. Idpol is aids, so is the whole gender bullshit. Gender isnt real, its a spook.


 No.2432307

>>2432297

I'm not saying trannies are generic liberals I'm saying they are hard leftists. Disproportionately. 25% of antifa is trannies. 50% of this board is trannies.

And you're right. They're going to become just like gays. Because they're already well normalized. That's my point.


 No.2432309

>>2432307

> Disproportionately. 25% of antifa is trannies. 50% of this board is trannies

.t thin air


 No.2432310

File: 5a42aeb8f249c3b⋯.jpg (9.48 KB, 159x225, 53:75, 685bb4ded345f9a9aebd0776df….jpg)

>>2432307

>50% of this board is trannies

>25% of antifa is trannies

>this is what /pol/ unironically believes.


 No.2432312

gender is a vague and subjective term. the numbers of genders that 'exist' vary and change depending on the people that conceive and use them as concepts.


 No.2432313

>>2432305

This anon is right.


 No.2432315

>>2432310

Well it's true. The far left is mostly trannies and tranny lovers. Disproportionately so.


 No.2432317

File: bbb0c4ec4618883⋯.png (34.69 KB, 331x331, 1:1, bbb0c4ec4618883499119c845e….png)

>>2432307

>25% of antifa is trannies. 50% of this board is trannies


 No.2432319

>>2431861

> If I told you that I hated my legs and wanted them amputated then you would call me a crazy person, and rightly so.

Not exactly. If, for example, some people were born with legs, and others born with the lower half of a snake, and someone had their legs amputated to replace it with a snake ass, that request would be extreme, but understandable. Not many people get their dick chopped off without the intent of replacing it with a simulacrum of a vagina.

>>2431908

> If a call someone a "man", am I calling him by his gender or his sex?

Only you can answer that.


 No.2432321

File: 66189e1b60d4414⋯.png (1.12 MB, 2400x1400, 12:7, 6b2bbdd26812ff9cbebcc356fd….png)

File: 24ad65a93c28ca2⋯.png (26.09 KB, 1187x846, 1187:846, l6JjHps.png)

>>2432315

>my lack of statistics backs this.

>leftypol is filled with transgendered

>anti-fa is transgendered

Give us the proofs, billy


 No.2432332

>>2432315

Well you've certainly gone silent. :^)


 No.2432337

>>2432307

for you to know those figures with any degree of accuracy you'd have to be a member of the tranny gang.

which would mean you're a tranny

which would mean i don't have to listen to you.


 No.2432468

>>2432279

I'm saying that if a guy acts a certain way, he's still a guy and is simply acting in a way. If you find he's acting "effeminate", that doesn't mean his gender is female or that his identity is female. All he is is a guy who acts or feels a certain way.

>>2432280

>What if gender was, in some instances, used in much the same manner as "introverted" or "jealous" or "peppy"?

This is my problem with gender. To say personality traits are correlate in this kind of manner is retarded. Is a girl who has certain "male" personality traits have "male" gender now? Is a guy who has "female" personality traits have a "female" gender now? Guys will act different ways, girls will act different ways. We don't need an identity for these things, especially a concept like gender which depends on somehow magically knowing what it's like to "be" or have the self-awareness of a sex you simply are not. Gender does not exist. There are two sexes, but gender is simply a made up categorization.


 No.2432634

File: 42eb057a0479f08⋯.png (88.67 KB, 332x395, 332:395, all the genders.png)


 No.2432694

>How many genders of dog are there?

Two. Male and female. Gender is a synonym of sex. There are two sexes of dog: male and female.

A male dog is sometimes called a sire. A female dog is called a bitch.

A male human is called a man. A female human is called a woman. There are two sexes. The correct scientific term is "sex", but people in polite company use the word "gender" in English, because "sex" has connotations of "having sexual intercourse".


 No.2432721

> when you aren't an ascended xenofeminist

Gender is an Interpolating subject is still embroiled in its capitalist relations

T r a n s c e n d / a c c e l e r a t e

https://conversations.e-flux.com/t/new-stabilized-version-of-the-xenofeminist-manifesto-uncovered/4380


 No.2432780

>>2432721

If anything, capitalism creates the idea that there's more or less than two genders, in an effort to create hyperindividualism for commoditization. In a natural state, which is what true Marxism is, there is only the natural, scientific fact of sex; not an abstract interpretation. It's all very libertarian to be transgender or gay.


 No.2432880

>>2431975

Right, and there isn't a defined number. There's your simple answer, so ignore the rest of this post if that's all you want. I'm sure you need some explaination to back up the answer though.

Sex is biological. There are two primary sexes, although very uncommon irregularities that make someone's sex less obvious can happen. These are exceedingly rare though.

Gender is, to my understanding, how your brain is predisposed to relate to your sex. Men naturally expect their bodies to be biologically male, for example.

Sometimes a person's gender is incongruent with their sex. These people are transgender (whether they decide to alter their body based on this or not). Among transgender people, some have experiences that make their gender unclear or difficult to explain as male or female. These people are non-binary, and the presence of non-binary genders is pretty much why you can't count a defined number of genders.


 No.2432901

ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


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 No.2432903

>>2432880

>Gender is, to my understanding, how your brain is predisposed to relate to your sex.

That is wrong. It's both unscientific and etymologically incorrect. Gender is not a psychological construct.

Sex is the preferred scientific term. Gender is a lay euphemism for sex, because people use the word "sex" for the act of sexual intercourse, otherwise known as coitus or fucking.

I once witnessed two pens of dogs. The dogs were divided by sex (or in other words, gender). That means that in one pen were male dogs (studs). In another pen, there were female dogs (bitches). The pens were close by, such that the two genders of dogs could not reach one another, but could see, hear, and smell each other. Later, the pens were separated and secluded.

Some of the stud dogs then took to homosexual activity. By that I mean that the studs started fucking each other out of presumed frustration with their imprisonment. The bitches licked each other.

This sort of confinement and gender-based imprisonment is not natural. Humans find themselves in similar prisons, as society has served to distance the two genders from their natural urges to procreate.

The point of this was for you to see that there is two genders: male and female. Any deviation from this is unnatural, and likely caused by some sort of social interference. But it doesn't change their genders. It's not that "gender is a spook", because gender is a real biological reality for every mammal. It's that the term gender has been corrupted/spooked/abused by people wrongly claiming it's anything other than biological sex.


 No.2432905

>>2431857

>Muxe

Damn it Muke


 No.2432910

If gender is distinct from sex, then what's the difference between transgender and transexual?

Also, why do people say "homosexual" instead of "homogender"?

And no one says "gender orientation" for straight/gay. They say "sexual orientation". Should both a gay man and a straight man reply to the question, "What is your sexual orientation," with the answer "Male"?

Furthermore, why is the term "bisexual" even allowed to exist? It ought to be bigender, but then it also ought to be called out for being binary and marginalizing. A true "bisexual" would be a hermaphrodite.


 No.2432961

There are exactly three genders, no more, no less.


 No.2432963

>>2432961

Name them.


 No.2432974

>>2432963

Male, female, neutral. You can quibble over the right name for neutral if you must.


 No.2432995

>>2432974

Someone who is neutral…what is the biological basis? Are they without sex chromosomes?


 No.2433039

>>2432468

You're confusing sex with gender again. Just because sex only has male or female doesn't mean identity or gender have to also only have two categories, because they signify different things. Namely the biological on the one hand, and the cultural and individual refraction of sex on the other.


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 No.2433106

File: 21387e3f2f4270e⋯.png (146.16 KB, 593x445, 593:445, me and you.png)

Holy shit everyone in this thread is retarded except me.

There are infinite genders because as defined by John Money, the man who coined the term, gender is what you feel as opposed to what society imposes on you. There are infinite genders. Sex does not exist, gender does, that is why most transgender women are just effeminate men, your hole or pole doesn't define you. You are a individual and you have the right to identify as such not as one from a society or group and under communism or any egalitarian system this identity should be accepted and supported.

Does everyone understand now? Good then shut the fuck up.


 No.2433112

>>2433106

>Sex does not exist, gender does, that is why most transgender women are just effeminate men, your hole or pole doesn't define you. You are a individual and you have the right to identify as such not as one from a society or group and under communism or any egalitarian system this identity should be accepted and supported.

Stop with this Feels>Reals type argument. I can show you sex, but gender is just made up spooky shit.

>under communism or any egalitarian system this identity should be accepted and supported

Under communism, nobody is expected to accept shit. Communism isn't "everyone gets along and agrees with each other.".


 No.2433126

>>2433112

>Feels>Reals

give yourself a slap


 No.2433139

>>2433039

I'm saying gender doesn't exist

>>2433126

Tell me how gender isn't just some spooky feeling you have.


 No.2433151

It’s a spook.


 No.2433241

2, but GGers took some Tumblr girl too seriously and it increased to infinity+1 due to strawmanning and liberals


 No.2434143

I can't count. How many is innie or outie?


 No.2435271

Depends on what you mean by "gender."

If "gender" is some kind of shorthand for "personality archetype"(a-la 'my gender is princess'), its a retarded concept and you should stop using it

If it refers to sex psychology and social norms assigned to people of either sex, there are two in a sense, but its fuzzy, and noone is a perfect embodiment of either, but it still makes most sense to just call someone a man or a woman most of the time. 'two' is fine. its a weak abstraction of vauger, less nice and straightforward biology, but whatever, two.

If you want it to refer very specifically to every exact social category people are fit into thats related to sex(ie, 'transgender born male' isnt the same 'gender' as woman), then it depends on the culture or really whatever the fuck you feel like.




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