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File: 06143d665c03601⋯.jpg (94.54 KB, 1000x541, 1000:541, Bashar Al-Assad.jpg)

 No.2482330

Is Assad gonna live through this conflict? How much involvement will there be from other countries? Who's gonna win? How is this gonna end? Is /ourcomrade/ Kimmy next? I'm scared /leftypol/.

 No.2482336

File: 696f580c20e37ff⋯.jpg (47.39 KB, 890x668, 445:334, saddam_hussein01.jpg)

File: a0306f7c660e943⋯.jpg (45.56 KB, 460x287, 460:287, gaddafi-3_1780857c.jpg)

FUGG :DDDDD


 No.2482342

Yes, this will cause a wave of anti-imperialism across the west: a righteous fire is about to engulf Europe and North America.


 No.2482354

I hope so. I'm unironically cheering for him now, you need to be a fucking idiot to still fall for the "oh but he's a dictator! crap at this point


 No.2482428

File: 32f72c9682953b7⋯.png (270.68 KB, 568x594, 284:297, 7ab1a828c627c9782602d033d9….png)

>>2482354

Not supporting Assad is literally just supporting the hostile takeover of Islamic fundamentalism or even worse, U.S. imperialism.


 No.2482513

Perhaps. Depends if Israel actually invades Syria and if Russia is willing to enforce their own no-fly zone.


 No.2482517

>>2482354

He is a dictator, just like Kim in North Korea. This doesn't justify a sequel to Team America World Police, though.


 No.2482534

Assad is the man. Or so they say.

As long as he helps me with murdering Trump, Sargon and any right wing anglo, it is all good.


 No.2482830

Is Russia actually getting involved??


 No.2482854

>>2482830

I hope so. If WW3 doesn't actually happen, this could mean horrible news for our numbers.


 No.2482863

America has effectively lost it's proxy war in Syria, they're just going to harass Assad more unless the current US military leadership gets purged for one in favor of nuclear war. He'll probably survive


 No.2482945

>>2482863

So no full on war?


 No.2482960

File: 6f4941b9349e95f⋯.jpg (64.69 KB, 891x536, 891:536, assadliberal.jpg)


 No.2482971

>>2482945

No, if Mattis is to be believed (take it as you will), then it's a one time thing for show on some abandoned research facilities


 No.2483093

Down with the USA! Down with Assad! Up with the workers!


 No.2483154

File: b83203538f8cecb⋯.jpg (41.95 KB, 454x458, 227:229, trot.jpg)

>>2483093

t. delusional islamist rebel supporting Trot

kill yourself


 No.2483155

File: 067562cb93faa00⋯.jpg (10.28 KB, 225x224, 225:224, assad action.jpg)

>>2482428

THIS

THIS

THIS

THIS

THIS

THIS


 No.2483244

>choosing sides in geopolitics

Wow I love this capitalist because other capitalists are against him


 No.2483262

>>2483210

this but unironically


 No.2483316

File: 1fb96fc22877961⋯.jpg (49 KB, 854x570, 427:285, 1230xijinping01.jpg)

>>2483268

are you one of those trying to suggest that every authoritarian regime which didn't abolish commodity form is literally fascism?


 No.2483323

>>2483320

Is government sponsoring terrorist groups, or using it's own police force to destroy worker movements and unions?


 No.2483339

>>2483320

I hope this was a frivolous statement


 No.2483347

>>2483345

Except hamas and hezbollah aren't terrorists


 No.2483350

>>2483155

What about Russian imperialism keeping him in power? Shouldn't we protest that too?


 No.2483351

>>2483350

I much prefer Russian imperialism to American imperialism.


 No.2483353


 No.2483363

>>2483353

Russians have been way less hostile to Muslims and leftists than Americans.

>>2483354

>deliberately kill unarmed civilians

Oy vey muh poor isreali settlers


 No.2483365

>>2483354

>organizations which deliberately kill unarmed civilians

we are not talking about NATO


 No.2483367

>>2483345

Which in turn are allied to the PFLP and Lebanese Communist Party. Also there are two Syrian communist parties which are completely legal and have seats in parliament.


 No.2483374

>>2483352

>>2483350

>>2483354

Am i on leftpol?


 No.2483377

>>2483374

it's leaking with high-quality discussion they keep talking about


 No.2483386

>>2483374

no, /leftpol/ is full of liberals. I am a Marxist, not a liberal, which is why I fully support Russian oligarchical capitalism and plutocracy


 No.2483519

>>2483244

>we shouldn't support the Haitian revolution because Toussaint Louverture wasn't a Marxist-Leninist

kys yourself


 No.2483794

>>2482517

It really doesn't, given that the country who has the power and the means to remove dictators also supports several of them, so that clearly isn't the principle behind their selection of targets. And that this country also finances forces hostile to enemy regimes when they're democratic, which has lead to tons of coups in the past.

So maybe the fact he's a dictator is besides the question and not even worth bringing up, you fucking retard.


 No.2483797

>>2483244

>As for the "class struggle", it takes us back not just to the "Middle Ages" but to the international conflicts of the ancient republics: Athens, Sparta, Rome. All those conflicts were class struggles. Since the dissolution of primitive communities, the struggle between different classes of which every society was composed was always the great driving force of historical progress.


 No.2483806

File: 04b10a9fcaa323c⋯.png (783.96 KB, 1230x1229, 1230:1229, support_for_al_assad.png)

>>2483155

>saving the thumbnail


 No.2483853

>>2483350

Countries don't exist in a vacuum, retard


 No.2483911

>>2483868

The west is the dominant imperialist faction, which is why they must be opposed, they'll be supported when they're no longer the dominant aggressor in the whole world.


 No.2484057

>>2484052

Reading is gay


 No.2484070

>>2484057

t. leftypol


 No.2484206

If an actual war broke out, they'd go after him to install "Democracy™". They did it to Gadaffi, if the US goes into one of these places, they're going to kill the leader.


 No.2484500

How the fuck can you defend Assad with all the medical neutrality violations he has made over the years?


 No.2484502

>>2484500

Because the alternatives suck worse.


 No.2484521

>>2484500

Shut the fuck up

LIBERAL


 No.2484538

>Actually supporting le Arab Dengism man

This is why the left is a joke

Just oppose American interventionism you idealist dumbasses


 No.2484558

>>2483519

Well, would it matter if we did? It was 200 years ago.


 No.2484578

>>2484537

Yeah, because the right to recieve medical attention in warzones is an imperialist invention and shouldn't be protected.


 No.2484635

File: 39455014a6ece0a⋯.jpg (48.72 KB, 645x729, 215:243, 39455014a6ece0a75ec7cc8fad….jpg)

>>2484578

>warzone

>rights


 No.2484698

>>2483350

tell me right now without googling anything, whats imperialist about russia's relationship with syria?

protip: foreign military assistance =/= imperialism


 No.2484702

>>2483363

plus russia just isn't that powerful. i'm not scared of russia at all really. maybe i should be? but idk, i truly think they would get taken the fuck out in a large scale conflict. it's china i'd be a bit more on edge about tbh. but russia alone is small potatoes to me. putin is an infantile little bastard and just is an embarassment to his former USSR countrymen


 No.2484740

No.

Screen cap this post tbh, I called it first.


 No.2484826

>>2484578

Who is going to protect it? Say that the SAA nicely obeyed all the laws of war. It is established fact that none of the terrorists opposing them did, so where is the benefit? Do you think NATO would suddenly line up behind the SAA and stop funding the terrorists because they saw how neatly the SAA obeyed international law? Of course not! It's a vicious civil war to the death, with no help coming from the outside. Humanitarian laws are by and large only obeyed only as long as it does not interfere with the prospect of victory.


 No.2484830

>>2484702

Their army may have known better days but they still have nukes tho…


 No.2484833

>>2484830

pakistan has nukes, are they imperialists?


 No.2484836

>supporting Assad

So leftypol has become a RT/Russia propaganda board. Nice.

I hope Kurds get their own country. Remember over a dozen US military bases in Syria? Yeah, Assad doesn't like them.


 No.2484838

>>2484836

such a low effort…


 No.2484929

>>2484838

Wow. Are you that delusional? Next thing you'll say Assad is a good guy who didn't do anything wrong except provide heaven on Earth for his people.

Forgot my flag. I often forget this board is full of ☭TANKIE☭s who will die clinging to their beliefs never having experienced the things they want. While us anarchists are lucky because we are able to form non-hierarchical relationships and exercise a gift economy. For ☭TANKIE☭s to experience what they want they need the whole world to be ☭TANKIE☭.

Also, the Americans on this board are plagued by the same false dichotomies and black/white thinking as the liberals and conservatives. Just because I don't support Assad, doesn't mean I support American imperalism. The ideal for me would be for Russia and USA to annihilate each other.


 No.2484932

It'd probably take a miracle. The US clearly wants war. Whoever happens to be secretary of state at the time is gonna have a "we came we saw he died" moment and the liberals will cheer as Syria collapses, refugees flee, and islamism grows stronger. ISIS was getting beat, so the us needs to make more enemies to fight otherwise how are they going to justify buying yet more weapons from the contractors? Unless they're stopped the US MIC will go to war with everyone until the world is nothing but "barbarians" whom they can fight like whack a mole until capitalism collapses.


 No.2484934

>>2484929

> Just because I don't support Assad, doesn't mean I support American imperalism

Dude I've been here since the boards inception, there are posters who under any circumstance will allow that simple thought to pass through their head. They're just going to ignore you and continue shitposting.


 No.2484935

File: baa2b947022685c⋯.png (69.68 KB, 289x272, 17:16, kimlaugh.png)

>>2484929

>>>reddit


 No.2484940

File: 052299d9a8455ad⋯.jpg (142.71 KB, 1024x730, 512:365, BookchinVsAssad.jpg)


 No.2484944

File: 802f3d54ac35968⋯.png (39.4 KB, 630x504, 5:4, 1513124678889.png)

>Russian imperialism

>Chinese Imperialism

>Countries that aren't extracting resources from colonies

>Countries that haven't committed illegal wars on other nations across the world

>Implying there'd be any countries left to "colonize" in the first place, considering NATO/US has claim to all of them already.

Can BO just ban these cunts?


 No.2484945

>>2484944

I know people will rebut with China and Africa but the situation there is fundamentally different to what the US is doing in the middle east and what europe had done to Africa in the past. It is just not comparable.


 No.2484956

>>2484952

"States" used to partition and weaken the countries to the benefit of NATO. Chechnya was just NATO's attempt to encroach ever closer to russia.


 No.2484963

>>2484952

They are all provinces, some more restive than others.


 No.2484974

>>2484963

They were conquered by the emperors before the gommies took over, and the gommies kept the territories, das all


 No.2484978

>>2484971

>the people of this region don't have the critical mass to demand sovereignty and self determination

None of these provinces ever had a democratic movement for autonomy, only armed gangs (Chechnya), a former feudal despot trying to reassert authority (Tibet), and in the case of Taiwan a government in exile that essentially displace the indigenous people of Formosa. Just because a few local elites and criminals call for autonomy, does not make it a sustained movement for self-determination.


 No.2484983

>>2484952

>What is Taiwan

The last remnant of Nationalist China, which still claims Mainland China including Tibet along with all of Mongolia and some areas of other countries as part of its territory.


 No.2484984

>>2484977

>The gomies sadly cannot keep them

and leave the territory in control of western imperialists? pretty sentiments anon


 No.2484991

>>2484971

>>2484977

Tibet and Chechnya were both made into autonomous regions by the gommies


 No.2484996

>>2484992

Right because they wont be used as pawns by western imperialists, get your head off your ass and see the last 70 years of history fam


 No.2485072

>>2485016

And i live in a country colonized by the gringos who have every fucking single advantage in the world stage, taking them down even an inch of a peg is a great victory for the world


 No.2485094

>>2485072

It wont change shit in my country but that dosent mean others will benefit from it. If chile would nationalize their mines it still wouldnt change shit but that dosent mean it wont be a good thing for them


 No.2485127

>>2485111

Better to have squabbling empires than a monolithic one


 No.2485187

File: fdfdab4db024cc9⋯.png (405.26 KB, 581x543, 581:543, hassanjuref.png)

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE ABSOLUTE CHAD.


 No.2485196

File: 15958566eecb33a⋯.jpg (13.9 KB, 206x255, 206:255, 1419186419866.jpg)

Assad is a dictator and the FSA are ISIS under a different name.

it's shit vs shit.


 No.2485204

>>2485196

at least Ba'ath has free health care


 No.2485206

>>2485204

I may have cancer but at least I don't have syphillis


 No.2485212

File: 37648d527f7357e⋯.jpg (76.56 KB, 274x366, 137:183, 37648d527f7357e09b2a93bf4e….jpg)

>>2485206

temporarily aligning with National Bourgeoisie of a country under imperialist threat indirectly helps socialist struggle. Try to see the bigger picture.


 No.2485218

File: 9b1054d250e9be7⋯.png (336.56 KB, 600x399, 200:133, ideology.png)

>>2485212

Ok, so we cheer for Assad while he kicks the rebels out, say he succeeds in doing so. Then what? he goes back to ruling Syria within an Iron fist, the Kurds get maybe an autonomy deal.

In what way is this conductive to socialism? or is anti imperialism the end goal, in which case I think it's you that's being myopic.


 No.2485224

>>2484861

How so?


 No.2485226

>>2484952

>Chechnya

Autistic Islamist rebels vs. Russia

>Tibet

Autistic feudalist rebels vs. China

>Taiwan

Now I know you're baiting, surely you don't support Taiwanese nationalism?


 No.2485245

>>2484929

>The ideal for me would be for Russia and USA to annihilate each other.

So you want things to escalate massively, ergo you support trump.


 No.2485253

>>2484962

>this is an argument to /leftpol/acks


 No.2485262

>>2485218

Assad's government stands in the way of the US/Israeli/Saudi axis. Even if Syria is secured its still a battleground in the wider Middle Eastern conflict. The American and Saudi governments are pretty unpopular and if a future war goes badly for them it could be an opportunity for the left.


 No.2485264

File: 4e85af29b59a292⋯.jpg (16.67 KB, 220x317, 220:317, 220px-Sun-Soong_wedding_ph….jpg)

>>2485226

>2018

>not supporting the left-KMT against the revisionist mainland and Taiwan seperatists

GANG


 No.2485267

>>2485262

Not to mention the sooner the war ends is for the better because the right won't be able to use the rapefugee meme which they've been surfing on.


 No.2485270

>>2485268

slightly unrelated, but are you referring to Donetsk and Lungansk


 No.2485273

>>2485218

I am going to reverse that question for you. If we are against Assad and the rebels (any faction) succeed, then what? You've only empowered the US stranglehold on the region, and they're going to export their anti-communist "security" apparatus all over the region. How is this conductive to socialism?

>b-but I don't le want america to win either XD

Then how are people supposed to fight against American imperialism? Are you just waiting for DRUMPF to just conveniently fall into a nuclear war with russia button? get real.

>>2485265

t. butthurt american


 No.2485276

>>2485264

>Minguo 107

>Still using Gregorian calendar


 No.2485281

>>2485273

>Assad should be replaced

>this somehow means America gets more influence

you're being far too single minded. you're pinning all your hopes and predictions for the region on one man, consider for one second that perhaps there is another way aside from either fellating him, or replacing him with a NATO yes-man.

correct, I don't want the Americans to win, but pinning up Assad as a paragon of virtue is supremely naive.


 No.2485284

>>2485268

>Russia has illegally invaded Ukraine and Georgia

Russia is defending itself against NATO's attempts to peel off border territories to station troops and missiles there. Not saying Russia isn't imperialist but NATO got a significant head start against Russia when it collapsed in the 90s, and its playing catch up. Russia's intervention in Syria is part of this counter-imperial strategy.


 No.2485294

>>2485289

As long as they aren't Anarchists I support Russian leftists.


 No.2485296

>>2485281

>consider for one second that perhaps there is another way aside from either fellating him, or replacing him with a NATO yes-man.

Again, how?

>pinning up Assad as a paragon of virtue is

Nobody but memers do this.


 No.2485297

>>2485296

>how

do I really have to spell it out for you. replaced with someone who will tell both groups of imperialists to fuck off.

>but russia is anti imperial

stop. just stop. This is imp vs imp, and anyone who isn't high on ideology can see it.


 No.2485299

I'm just happy seeing Trumpist patriotards and pro-Putin psyop victims trip over each other's tongues making excuses and bickering over this. Maybe some of them will realize that supporting a hysterical orange moron and an oligarch-blowing Bond villain wasn't the best move for global security.


 No.2485305

>>2485293

On a finite planet against an enemy that controls most of it. Russia doesn't have a fraction of the power to overthrow governments and extract resources like America does, it's a second rate regional power that happens to have advanced military technology capable of challenging NATO.


 No.2485313

>>2485297

>do I really have to spell it out for you.

Yes. So far you've just said "well somebody should spring up from nowhere and implement socialism". This is not realisitc.

>This is imp vs imp, and anyone who isn't high on ideology can see it.

Yes it is. Multi-polarity is desirable.

>>2485299

At least you found a way to feel superior to everybody without doing any actual thinking.


 No.2485315

>>2485299

America needs to stop fucking threatening Russia


 No.2485324

>>2485315

How is Russia any better?


 No.2485326

>>2485324

The disparity is the problem


 No.2485328

>>2485273

>You've only empowered the US stranglehold on the region, and they're going to export their anti-communist "security" apparatus all over the region

So Syria acts as a bastion for the socialist movement in the region? Because from what I've seen, they have been just as strict with un-compliant Communists in their ranks

>inb4, muh communist party of syria supports assad!!!

The socialist party in the German empire called for "patriotic" support of the fatherland during the First world war, that just shows you their stripes as "socialists".

And also, is the fear of american empire building not already answered for just by being anti-capitalists? Why go as far as to pick sides in geopolitical conflicts, when in the end we consider all wars in the current system to be inherently unjust? Now, there is something to be said about imperialism being used as a tool to save the failing mechanisms of capital, through cheap labor in the third world, cheap resource exploitation, and new markets to sell to, but Syria seems to be more of a geopolitical struggle between regional and world powers vying for dominance, and none of these powers are particularly friendly with Communists.

All that being said, I still oppose the US's vile acts of imperialism, but not because I'm a Communist, because I'm not a horrid person who will try and excuse the US's clear aggressive policies in the region. All in all, I don't care for assad, and I don't really care about his regime, but I hate american aggression enough to say that, at least on a moral level, you can "support" him.


 No.2485330

>>2485313

>multipolarity

so instead of 1 person fucking us over, we get 2. simply terrific idea, we hope that russia fucks us over less that America.


 No.2485335

>>2485324

It isn't however America is not any better either. A war between Russia and America is fucking useless, and Russia actually is the only nation willing to defend Syria and Iran from total annihilation by America

So Russia is somewhat better than America, geopolitically speaking, at the moment.


 No.2485336

>2485326

Some nations hold more sway then others

So what?


 No.2485341

>>2485335

but here's the elephant in the room: how does any of this lead us to socialism.


 No.2485344

>>2485330

Pretty much my attitude to this.

Yes, we should hate america on merit of them being america, but it's no real skin off my nose as a Socialist

(Unless they are doing some real, Belgian Congo tier shit)


 No.2485345

>>2485341

How is letting America declare war on Iran and Syria going to bring us to fucking Socialism ?


 No.2485347

>>2485344

>Unless they are doing some real, Belgian Congo tier shit

Every_American_War_Since_They_Dropped_Plague_Fleas_on_Korea.jpg


 No.2485351

>>2485346

I find people like this, people like you, find it easier to post apologia for America yes


 No.2485353

>>2485345

It won't, where not saying it will.

Capitalism will bring us to Socialism


 No.2485356

>>2485353

What the fuck lmfao


 No.2485357

>>2485347

War is nasty, but that was not the same as holding an entire nation as your own personal slaves. That would inherently prolong capitalism.


 No.2485362

>>2485356

Ah, so I see you are a meme Socialist who knows nothing of Marxist theory.


 No.2485364

>>2485357

>but that was not the same as holding an entire nation as your own personal slaves

I think killing millions of people and splitting nations in half or in whole, for the profit of the military industrial complex, is actually just as bad


 No.2485365

muke: Let me kiss the missiles


 No.2485369

>>2485364

Morally yes, but in terms of prolonging capitalism's decay, not as much.

Like I said before though, we oppose all of this just on merit of being anti-capitalists


 No.2485371


 No.2485375

>>2485369

>Morally yes, but in terms of prolonging capitalism's decay, not as much.

It actually does prolong it more than slavery ever will


 No.2485379

>>2485345

so by your logic:

step 1: prevent amercian imperialism

step 2: become apologist for russian imperialism

step 3: ???

step 4: socialism


 No.2485384

>>2485330

Competing empires means they're going to sabotage each other by any means including financing socialist insurrections.

This was clearly present in the conditions of the russian revolution, for example.


 No.2485386

File: d40f8780808e13d⋯.jpg (9.62 KB, 281x234, 281:234, d40f8780808e13daab268edf0e….jpg)

>>2485380

Shut the fuck up liberal


 No.2485387

>>2485380

What nation is fucking Stalinist lmao

And no, it is fucking terrible. As an American you need to admit to yourself "We never saved anyone, we don't save anyone, we have never saved anyone at all"


 No.2485388

File: c4b1100da97e06c⋯.jpg (323.43 KB, 600x800, 3:4, stalinsalty.jpg)

>>2485380

>saved

>from Stalinism

wtf are you talking about


 No.2485393

>>2485388

stalinism is a bit shit tbh


 No.2485397

>>2485379

step 1: don't prevent american imperialism

step 2: america becomes an unopposed global hegemon worldwide

step 3: ???

step 4: anarchism


 No.2485401

>>2485397

>NO, U


 No.2485402

>>2485379

America has the worst fucking military industrial complex in America, and war is the only thing that can make it cum billions of dollars all over the market

It works to just destroy for profit, nothing else, nothing more

It should be stopped at all costs


 No.2485403

>>2485393

nigga you don't even have a definition of stalinism, trotsky's disagreements with stalin's policies are basically "oh I would've done that but better".


 No.2485404

>>2485402

>America has the worst fucking military industrial complex in America

I meant *on the planet

Freudian Slip


 No.2485410

>>2485407

South Korea was a fascist dictatorship until the 80's you dumb fuck


 No.2485413

>>2485407

No it didn't. It made North Korea fucking worse then it was going to be.

American.

You saved no one, you saved no one during the cold war. There is not one man or woman or child you saved. You just killed them and said mission accomplished. You did nothing. You do nothing. You will never do anything for the positive. The world is screaming for you to leave forever


 No.2485415

>>2485404

so we stop one cancer by growing another?


 No.2485419

File: 57aaca6bc778e6e⋯.png (202.46 KB, 880x440, 2:1, ike yo bakayarou.png)

>>2485407

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/04/10/398498496/a-forgotten-generation-half-of-s-koreas-elderly-live-in-poverty

>South Korea may be known for its high-tech advances, luxury skin care products and rapid economic rise, but these days, the generation largely responsible for all that growth isn't faring so well. South Korea has the worst senior poverty rate among developed nations, and the options for seniors are slim.

>On Thursdays, churches give out 500 won coins — equivalent to about 50 cents — to individuals who line up. Throngs of Korea's seniors wait for hours to shuffle past church volunteers for small handouts and a juice box, or maybe a banana. Each week, organizers say, 300 to 500 seniors show up at each church, and the line starts hours in advance.

>"There are a lot of people who don't have anything else to do," says Han Dal-yong, who is nearing 80 and spoke with NPR outside Nam Seoul Church in southern Seoul. "What are you going to do if you're alone in the house? You might as well come out here."

>As much as many seniors need the cash, they also come for community. Loneliness can be as difficult to deal with as being poor.


 No.2485423

>>2485415

Sometimes, a virus has its use for vaccination


 No.2485424

>>2484578

>assad and muh medical rights in war

>but when alqaeda puts on a white helmet and sais theyre humanitarian its ok

wew


 No.2485425

>>2485420

Only because it was too close to their liberal pet project, the EU


 No.2485427

>>2484558

would it matter if you killed yourself?


 No.2485437

>>2484952

>chechnya

yeah because alqeada and warlords are better than a republic


 No.2485438

File: 8af7262428310dd⋯.gif (704.46 KB, 480x287, 480:287, wrong.gif)


 No.2485440

>>2485438

100% effort reply


 No.2485442

>>2485433

Stop strawmanning you fuck


 No.2485443

>>2485433

>dude I have no argument so I have to ignore proof I'm wrong as hard as possible


 No.2485444

File: 4dba1bd91762b1d⋯.png (59.57 KB, 860x650, 86:65, 4db.png)

>>2485433

>1984 the country


 No.2485447

>>2485268

>Russia extracts resources from ex-Soviet states in Caucasus and Central Asia

so does fucking pakistan, are they an empire now?

>Russia has illegally invaded Ukraine

you mean after the US and EU organised a coup with the help of corrupt officials and neonazis to try and ennax ukraine in the EU and NATO?

>georgia

russia did literally nothing wrong except not ennaxing that shithole

georgia, with NATO political support invaded a russian republic and russia retaliated.


 No.2485449

http://cmr.berkeley.edu/blog/2016/4/south-korea/

>The "Millennial Generation" (also known as Generation Y) generally refers to people born between the early 1980s to the early 2000s. [1] Given the immense technological development and high education standards of this period, this group is often caricatured as an entitled, optimistic generation with a huge edge over their predecessors. Considering that millennnials were born into the age of peace, rapid globalization, and smartphones, many critics have been misled into calling this generation worry-free. In reality, millennials around the world may be facing the biggest struggle seen by generations both past and present.

>An example of this contradiction to the millennial stereotype can be seen in South Korea. With a multitude of social issues like high youth unemployment, extreme poverty, and an alarmingly low birth rate, young Koreans are now calling South Korea "Hell-Joseon" (헬조선) – or as Se-Woong Koo translates: "an infernal feudal kingdom stuck in the nineteenth century." [2]

Look commies, you might not like it, but this is what peak economic prosperity looks like.


 No.2485455

>>2485449

Young South Koreans are super left wing though, so that's not helping your argument. They elected Moon Jae In, accused by his opponents of being a secret Jucheist.


 No.2485456

>>2485455

>>2485452

Why did America commit the genocide of Koreans to allow this situation to happen in the first place?

For people saying it wasn't a genocide, it very much was. It was a systematic bombing campaign that killed millions of Koreans. Not thousands, not hundreds, not ten thousands, not even a hundred thousands; millions of people were killed

If they didn't I don't think North Korea would even be as bad as it is now


 No.2485458

>>2485401

There's litetally nothing wrong with no u, prove me wrong.


 No.2485463

File: 546c9d0263e1c1a⋯.png (235.55 KB, 497x305, 497:305, 07a3c0728a83db3a01bcbe007d….png)

>>2485459

>"Just let America save you from Russia and hope for the best!"


 No.2485467


 No.2485468

>>2485462

It quite literally is. The Korean War wasn't so much a war but an attempted complete genocide of the North Koreans.

If they ever send you an ICBM it will be entirely your fault


 No.2485470

>>2485469

You are. Take off the flag, fag


 No.2485471

>>2485419

>>2485433

>Pinochet tier dictatorships until the 80's

>American puppets

>Highest rate of sucide in world

>High rate of alcholism

>Poverty

>No pensions

>Grannies literally sell their ass for a couple of dimes

>More prostitutes than any other country

>Sexual slavery is legal is the US army does it

>Americans can kill childrens and get away with it

How about you go fuck yourself?


 No.2485475

File: 0cf2d113ee1c448⋯.png (226.66 KB, 800x479, 800:479, Untitled.png)

>>2485187

Hot off the presses


 No.2485502

>>2485497

Right now it is, because Russia, among other nations, is the only block stopping America from invading Iran and Syria


 No.2485505

>>2485489

Because you're probably a retard


 No.2485507

>>2485502

we must infect the patient with malaria to treat the HIV


 No.2485515

>>2485511

The difference between Russian and American Imperialism is American Imperialism has no goal besides profit for death for profit


 No.2485518

>>2485516

Thank you, you're also a retard


 No.2485521

>>2485511

If America is supporting something it probably isn't looking forward to the long term support of that nation, it gives up after it destroys a nation completely and """"saves the day"""""


 No.2485526

>>2485522

No it can't. Not really. Russia didn't give us the Iraq and Afghanistan War, it didn't give us Vietnam, it doesn't have the most powerful military industrial complex in the world.

America is far ahead in the economy of death. It's been a head for decades

America counts its dollars while it drinks its blood and gets its feet massaged by the refugees


 No.2485528

>>2485522

>>2485497

>>2485469

Liberal


 No.2485532

>>2485529

Oh please. "Any nation that wants its own future to decide without colonial powers must be a Soviet Puppet"

Get off the fucking board


 No.2485533

>>2485529

hahahahaahahahaha


 No.2485534

>>2485495

Are you implying the rebels in eastern ukraine are not neonazis?


 No.2485538

File: 28f49025bd07bac⋯.webm (2.25 MB, 320x240, 4:3, circus_music.webm)

>>2485529

>russia and the soviets are being so mean to us what did America ever do, why are they always so mean ;_;


 No.2485543

File: d08cdccdfda99f8⋯.webm (1.57 MB, 1920x800, 12:5, You_Serious.webm)

>>2485541

>>2485536

Idealistic Liberals


 No.2485544

>>2485536

Liberal :)


 No.2485546

>>2485500

>Nobody here is advocating US.

lol


 No.2485547

File: 31c329eca0808ee⋯.png (163.58 KB, 1090x1411, 1090:1411, 31c329eca0808ee950ad6aaee8….png)

>>2485545

>"I get my information from my 4th grade history teacher"


 No.2485549

>>2485545

Liberal :)


 No.2485562

File: 645b48440d18c2e⋯.png (1.1 MB, 1080x859, 1080:859, kadyrov laughing.png)

>>2485448

>autonomous republic which is practially a state within a state

>95 percent Chechen and 2 percent Russian

<colonial occupation


 No.2485565

File: c98cfa0f8708a88⋯.png (688.74 KB, 1711x1080, 1711:1080, choson is true korea.png)


 No.2485586

File: c2226e4e47bb17d⋯.png (507.61 KB, 1080x1040, 27:26, korean genocide 1950-1953.png)

File: 86e08e24b85a2cc⋯.png (3.37 MB, 2560x1439, 2560:1439, death to us imperialist ag….png)


 No.2485632


 No.2485635

>>2485632

FUCK OFF JOHN BOLTON

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK


 No.2485644

>>2485635

John Bolton is going to be the last person to die here because he's a vampire


 No.2485693

>>2485507

Chemo consists of introducing various poisons into the body.

Why do you insist on keeping the world unipolar under the thumb of America? Is it that you think the US is exceptionally progressive compared to evil oriental powers?


 No.2485718

>>2485693

i'll consider answering to you when you drop the strawman


 No.2485723

File: 3f0b4946b9405ca⋯.png (163.87 KB, 763x757, 763:757, 3f0b4946b9405caec8b99c5c71….png)


 No.2485798

>>2485723

>a small immigrant community against the entire US media machine


 No.2485808

no


 No.2485842

>>2485718

>implying is a strawman

>crying this hard over tone

epic arguments retard, you sure didn't call anybody a putin shill itt lmoa


 No.2485844

>>2485187

>>2485475

Are Tomahawks so fucking outdated?


 No.2485854

>>2485848

>/leftpol/ troll attemp using the same bit for the zillionth time

Sad


 No.2485856

>>2485848

In anticipation of Operation Downfall, the US ordered five hundred thousand purple hearts. They still haven't run out of them.


 No.2486210

>>2485848

>I have no evidence to prove it was Assad in the first place so I'll just use retarded WW2 analogies

There was zero risk of a much larger country intervening against the US using the nuke as an excuse and then destroying it.


 No.2486218

>>2485844

No, they're not. The most recent Tomahawk update package came out in 2015.


 No.2486224

File: c865b48f12d6008⋯.pdf (487.24 KB, N1626975.pdf)

It has been proved that Assad did use at least three times chimical weaponry over the course of the war.

The question of why would he do it now is void of meaning, because using chemical weapons were just business at usual.

The Syrian gov made the bet that they could keep doing it because they never had any problem until now. They lost that bet because at this particular time the West wanted to chest pound after that spy poisoning incident.


 No.2486230

>>2486224

And it still wouldn't matter, because even if he gassed ten thousand children, it'd be peanuts compared to what the US would turn Syria into.


 No.2486232

>>2486224

Pfff, some small bore chlorine gas attacks before 2016 is all this attests to. While the 2017 and 2018 US air strikes were in response to alleged use of more advanced nerve gas that Syria already got rid of in 2016 under the auspices of Russia. Total red herring.


 No.2486333

ftw no new world war.


 No.2486346

File: ca88b5a7c6d6121⋯.png (516.59 KB, 640x554, 320:277, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2486333 (checked)

>tfw you won't get to be conscripted just to defect to partisan forces


 No.2486370

>>2484698

>protip: foreign military assistance =/= imperialism

But it literally is.


 No.2486399

WikiLeaks Saudi Cable: Overthrow the Syrian Regime, but Play Nice with Russia

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-14/wikileaks-secret-cable-overthrow-syrian-regime-play-nice-russia


 No.2486404

>>2486394

>Syria accepting help against ISIS and western proxy armies is imperialism

>US is helping destroy a vile and murderous regime


 No.2486409

>>2486408

Funny how it was the only country in the ME not to be infected with religious nuts until the gringos stuck their dicks in there


 No.2486415

>>2486414

>The Assad regime supported religious nuts like Hezbollah and Hamas

t. Mossad


 No.2486416

>>2486408

Doesn't mean we should support bombing them, anti-imperialism starts at home. First end domestic imperialism, then launch an anti imperialist civil foreign policy, then launch a military one once you have a large coalition.


 No.2486418

>>2486414

Hezbollah and Hamas are bad people!!1!: THEY USE CHILDREN AS SHIELDS


 No.2486424

>>2486422

>Hating the apartheid, racist, fascist genocidal, colonial, capitalist state of Israel is hating Jews

Weeew, who let you in from reddit?


 No.2486426

File: 79ce8fcb6f8597e⋯.jpg (81.02 KB, 891x536, 891:536, DY6rRLpWAAEYzYS.jpg)

>>2486414

>>2486422


 No.2486427


 No.2486431

>>2486424

Tbf Hamas literally did write "the jews are responsable for every wrong in the world" in their 70s manifesto.


 No.2486432

>>2486428

wew, lad


 No.2486433

>>2486428

go be a liberal somewhere else


 No.2486434

>>2486428

>Assad is antisemitic

Okay that us brainlet tier.


 No.2486437

>>2486428

>>2486431

This has to be bait, its not the victims fault if they develop hatred against the people who have been conducting literal GENOCIDE and COLONIZATION against them for the past 80 years

Does that mean that you wouldnt support Ghandi because supporting him would be anti-anglo? Do you not think he hated the brits with a passion after all their state did to the indians? Are you really this moralist? Fuck you you goddamn disingenuous piece of shit, go back to your ivory tower and throw yourself from the roof with a rope around your neck


 No.2486439

File: e9770b16a9c91a1⋯.jpg (1.32 MB, 5000x5000, 1:1, disgusted.jpg)

>>2486427

>statue of truman in greece

God, that's like a statue of Bush in Iraq


 No.2486440

>>2486437

ofc it's bait, this is /leftypol/


 No.2486453

>>2486437

Kek, from claiming they're not antisemitic to then going 'anti semitism is okay, it's not their fault they cannot tell between Israelis and all the jews in the world!'.

This is like some strange of liberal maternalism and polyp theory.

>>2486439

It was built by the Greek junta iirc, who were Pinocjet tier.


 No.2486463

>>2486453

Maybe if so many jews werent supportive of israel they wouldnt be hated so much but keep your moralist bs back in berkley


 No.2486471

>>2486466

how is this faggot not banned yet?


 No.2486475

>>2486445

>The Assad regime provides support to Hezbollah, an organization whose leader, Hassan Nasrallah, has said that “if Jews all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide”.

Can't handle the bantz, eh?


 No.2486483

>>2486463

Holy fuck listen to yourself, you sound like a fucking polyp. That is literally the same tier as 'well if so many blacks weren't criminals I would lynch them'.


 No.2486485


 No.2486495

>>2486485

If you agree with that zionist you should be banned


 No.2486530

>>2486370

t. never read lenin or kautsky


 No.2486562

>>2486475

nasrallah sounds like a cool dude


 No.2486772

File: f0fa3823aac87cf⋯.jpg (554.12 KB, 2560x3281, 2560:3281, syria.jpg)


 No.2486774

>>2486772

Did you make that? Top tier!


 No.2486779

>>2486772

We didn't forget about you


 No.2486795

>>2483794

>So maybe the fact he's a dictator is besides the question and not even worth bringing up, you fucking retard.

The Socio-political conditions of a state are irrelevant, so long as the United States is opposed to it.

t. Marl Karx


 No.2486828

>>2486795

"We need to smash the state and oppose dictators no matter how dedicated to communism they are. Anything less than destroying your comrades because of sectarianism is not true communism."

t. Karltural Marks


 No.2487980


 No.2488078

>>2486437

Ghandi did good PR by being nonviolent. The Gazans while mostly nonviolent have also attacked the Israelis. Wheter in defense or not it doesn't matter. Following the "fatalistic sheep going to the slaughter with calm demeanor" makes better PR than terrorism and counter missiles


 No.2488081

>>2488078

meant to put trope after demeanor.


 No.2488187

>>2488078

>You should not stand against your genociders because it will look bad to moralist first worldists that barely struggle to live


 No.2488190

>>2486485

you stfu


 No.2488235

File: 2ceaa7aa5952ef6⋯.jpg (16.44 KB, 390x300, 13:10, Praise me bitches.jpg)

Is this an /sg/ raid? Ironic sitposting? Or has left/pol/ finally seen the light?


 No.2488259

>>2488078

Ghandi was controlled opposition


 No.2488313

>>2488235

/leftypol/ has never been against Assad.


 No.2488317

>>2488235

Is this your first time here, /pol/?


 No.2488332

File: 8b795b2ddd2c6cb⋯.jpg (514.87 KB, 1200x900, 4:3, 2015-10-31_Berlin_DEMO_19_….jpg)

File: d1c9348e1d59ce2⋯.jpg (91.33 KB, 848x478, 424:239, antinato-kundgebung-antiim….jpg)

File: f8d3065fee48e99⋯.jpg (3.92 MB, 3648x2736, 4:3, dscn4697.jpg)

File: 8529be6adb7654c⋯.jpg (2.22 MB, 3072x2304, 4:3, img_0152.jpg)

>>2488235

>left/pol/

both /leftpol/ and their originboard /pol/ hate Assad and suck trumps dick over the airstrikes

this here is an antiimperialist board


 No.2488339

>>2482330

I think he’ll die of a heart attack if he dies before the end of the war tbh.


 No.2488395

File: 8a18f06ab0e0232⋯.png (198.94 KB, 344x375, 344:375, LIBERALS_LIBERALS_LIBERALS.png)

>>2486828

> dedicated to communism they are.

> The Kim Clan


 No.2488396

>>2488235

This board literally split because of this issue, /leftypol/ is majority pro-Assad.




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