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 No.2650976

The last thread died, long live the new thread.

Midterms rapidly approaching gomrades. With impeachment proceedings likely on the horizon, the next congress will surely be a historic one.

What do you all think will happen? Let's discuss the spectacle of bourgeois liberal democracy in the era of Gronald Grumph.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/senate/

https://www.electionbettingodds.com/

 No.2710511

>>2710507

probably worth it then


 No.2710517

>Tim Canova lost

Darnit.


 No.2710519

>this is the most expensive Midterm race in history

>since the last Midterm race

Idk if anything shows how actual little power the working class has in the USA than this. SocDems can gush about the rise of small dollar donations after Sanders all they want, and they aren't even necessarily wrong and it is a good thing, but the overwhelming majority of money poured into every American election is still coming mostly from the upper 10-20 percent and even moreso from the top 1 percent. Everyone who calls this shit a "democracy" is a fucking joke, it's a neoliberal banana republic and we all know it


 No.2710523

>>2710519

the money spent in the govenor's race in my state is comparable to presidential elections from 20 years ago


 No.2710526

>>2710458

Do you really think the biggest Empire the world has ever seen, and the center of global capitalism would be a Democracy?


 No.2710530

>>2710506

The markets though Trump would lose.


 No.2710531

File: 4faa19abf0b3922⋯.jpg (60.32 KB, 900x506, 450:253, serveimage.jpg)

>Dems in my state scream at me all week long to VOTE VOTE VOTE

>They still lose

hahaha serves you obnoxious fuckers right


 No.2710533

File: 2e8f1750bdf13c1⋯.png (59.88 KB, 663x527, 39:31, Screen Shot 2018-11-06 at ….png)

>>2710517

We’re all fucked. I hope Debbie gets shott.


 No.2710534

>>2710530

yeah, but they were less wrong about the odds than pollsters and pundits

iirc they had it at around 68-32 the day before


 No.2710536

File: 2308d970a4d3eb1⋯.png (39.35 KB, 608x740, 152:185, stay in line.png)

File: 448f5aa6f617d73⋯.jpg (37.68 KB, 400x278, 200:139, in line.jpg)

STAY IN LINE, PROLE


 No.2710544

>>2706474

WHo the fuck is this nigga?


 No.2710548

>>2710483

thats what i did. elections dont matter anyway but i want liberals to suffer mental breakdowns, might be easier to herd them to gulag if they are mindbroke.


 No.2710549

File: bf04d462486aa07⋯.png (62.31 KB, 659x626, 659:626, Screen Shot 2018-11-06 at ….png)

Common, the two party state must die.


 No.2710550

>>2710548

Whoever wins, we can feast on there salt. Both the salt of SJWs and MAGAfags is delicious.


 No.2710551

>>2710531

Be sure to rub their faces in it. When Democrats realize that voting doesn't work and the system is rigged, they'll be ready for more drastic measures.


 No.2710552

>>2710548

you seem to be confused. anyone who voted at all is going to gulag.


 No.2710553

>>2710552

Truth is that in the World Socialist Republic all of the US will be one big Gulag. No one gets out.


 No.2710557

File: 63328adb288a18b⋯.png (14.61 KB, 1308x114, 218:19, Screen Shot 2018-11-06 at ….png)

>>2710549

inb4 its bernie


 No.2710558

>>2710553

you can't just leave all those Americans in one place, where they can get together and cook up schemes. deport all Americans into gulags all over the world, especially in remote regions.


 No.2710559

File: 1694a2acfb900b9⋯.jpeg (94.33 KB, 1103x530, 1103:530, 356498C3-F2C8-4A41-A516-3….jpeg)

I only hope O’Rourke gives us an upset so I can saltmine for days


 No.2710561

>>2710559

he's a Zionist.


 No.2710562

>>2710549

this is for the senate*


 No.2710563

>>2710561

I don't care if O'Rourke wins. I just want Ted Cruz to lose.


 No.2710564

>>2710561

>implying I support him and don’t just wanna see Ted get BTFO


 No.2710566

>>2710559

if ted cruz loses i'll die of fucking laughter


 No.2710568

File: 50817dcf21d898f⋯.png (115.99 KB, 1274x1008, 91:72, Screen Shot 2018-11-06 at ….png)

>>2710559

Holy fuck its happening


 No.2710569

>>2710563

>>2710564

>>2710566

>giving a shit about these actors


 No.2710571

>the Democratic Party is literally several hours away from possibly imploding

lmao just burn it all down


 No.2710572

>>2710568

nah, cruz is going to win

you have to look at which counties are reporting


 No.2710573

>>2710572

Houston hasn't even started to report


 No.2710575

>>2710569

>he says this ITT on an election night

The exact reason we can come here to laugh at them is precisely due to how shitty and how much of bourgeois puppets they are


 No.2710576

>>2710569

But he has a really punchable face.


 No.2710578

>>2710571

Great. I still think it might be an opportunity for some genuine left-wing ideas to take hold.


 No.2710579

>>2710573

Dallas, Austin, Houston, San Antonio, and El Paso will all be blue.


 No.2710581

File: ff649db2cb3cbd7⋯.png (479.15 KB, 567x661, 567:661, bebe5b1e89d31b4c42b69db3f0….png)

>>2710571

This tbh.


 No.2710582

>>2710573

>>2710573

things like turnout are important

it's not enough for urban areas to just go blue. They must go blue and have good turnout.


 No.2710586

The entire American political system is retarded. Those founding fathers must have been some real idiots to come up with this shit.


 No.2710587

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>>2710450

lol

>>2710561

And Ted is a millenarian Zionist wants to see armageddon.

Rourke is also pro-Weed.


 No.2710589

>>2710587

>And Ted is a millenarian Zionist wants to see armageddon.

And? They both deserve to fucking hang, and so do you if you support any of them.


 No.2710590

File: c6f3ad93b12c56f⋯.png (87.91 KB, 280x291, 280:291, 7F01D52B-F72D-4EB3-A890-CE….png)

>O’Rourke’s lead just went up another percent along with a few decimal points on the 3rd-party

>Cruz sinks a little more

TUMBLING DOWN


 No.2710593

File: 466f45854b096eb⋯.jpg (5.61 KB, 192x263, 192:263, guillotine.jpg)

>>2710589

>They both deserve to fucking hang

Be a bit civilized. We'll use one of these bois.


 No.2710596

>>2710589

>>2710589

>They both deserve to fucking hang, and so do you if you support any of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude

The American political system is so fucking retarded right now that in general not voting=voting and Republicans=Democrats and there's no actual Left to speak of so just shut the fuck up you edgy little shitter. Nobody on this board wants Cruz to lose because we think O'Rourke is going to build socialism in Texas, it'd just be funny to see such a deep red state lose it's fucking vampiric neocon evangelist Senator. I'm sorry your autism and contrarianism prevents you from seeing that but fuck it, here's your (you) now go back to r/Socialism if you want to virtue signal while doing literally less than nothing and talking about how sucking dick is radical praxis on twitter faggot


 No.2710597

>>2710568

>Cruz blames his loss on the Astroturf, I mean libertarian party

Can’t wait to see this. While Burger politics are shit, voting for a “spoiler candidate” is a qucik and easy way to generate salt.


 No.2710598

>>2710586

no, i think it's doing as intended

protecting private property


 No.2710600

>>2710597

Daily reminder that no strong evidence has ever been presented that a third party candidate has been a spoiler in any American Presidential or Midterm election ever


 No.2710602

>>2710590

I wouldn't get too excited. Less than 5% of districts have reported their totals.


 No.2710603

File: be1e65348324cda⋯.png (63.24 KB, 676x627, 676:627, Screen Shot 2018-11-06 at ….png)

>>2710571

The dems are making a comeback. Still no third parties which is the only thing that matters.


 No.2710604

>>2710600

THere isn’t but if DNC/GOP shrills believe it than I’ll rub it in there face for extra salt.


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 No.2710607

>>2710603

I know Jacobin has been pining for a democratic socialist caucus in congress that would become the basis for a new party.


 No.2710608

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quality /pol/ reactions


 No.2710610

>>2710603

I’d legitimately fall out of my chair if I EVER saw a third-party get into the House


 No.2710612

>>2710586

Reminder. The US political system was based on the Roman Republic where only rich people could vote. America wasn’t a liberal democracy tell Lincon’s presidency. Than in the 70’s we became a dictatorship again when the supreme court rulled that corporations can give infinite amounts of cash in campaign donations to whoever they want. America hasn’t be a liberal democracy for half a century. America was never and is never intended to be a democracy.


 No.2710613

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>>2710608

more autism


 No.2710615

>>2710606

>HAHAHA DUDE I KNOW U MEANT RECENT HISTORY BUT LET ME GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1912 SO I CANT *technically* OWN YOU HAHAHAHAH XD

I fucking hate faggots like you so much

>>2710604

Why? It just reinforces the idea that third parties as they are now pose a significant risk to Libs winning, which always ends up being a self-fulfilling prophecy


 No.2710616

>>2710608

>all the """""""nazis""""""" begging and crying for lying ted


 No.2710617

>>2710608

>third pic

Beto O’Rourke is whiter than Téd Crñús the Cuban that was kicked out of Cuba because Castro was based.


 No.2710618

>>2710608

>/pol/ WE HATE EVERYONE WHO ISNT WHITE

>Also /pol/: Please vote for the REAL mexican to oust the FAKE mexican my FELLOW MEXICANS XD


 No.2710619

>>2710610

There’s one race where it’s just between a Dem and a Green.

https://www.google.com/search?ei=lVDiW5S1MNDuzgKg7aaABw&q=Kenneth+Mejia&oq=Kenneth+Mejia&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0l10.6904.6904..7206...0.0..0.94.94.1......0....1j2..gws-wiz.......0i71.40p3IJfaiCM

>>2710615

I’m not reinforcing anything, retards will be retarted, I might as well exploit there beliefs for salt.


 No.2710620

>>2710615

>"Daily reminder that no strong evidence has ever been presented that a third party candidate has been a spoiler in any American Presidential or Midterm election ever"

if you meant 'only recent history', why did you say 'in any American Presidential or Midterm election ever', nerd


 No.2710621

>>2710533

God, I wish.


 No.2710623

>>2710620

Third Parties aren’t spoilers because most of there votes would stay home if not for them. Take 1912 for example. Eugene V Debs (Peace Be Upon Him) got over 6% of the vote. None of his voter would ever cote for the Dems or GOP.


 No.2710625

>Year of the WOMAN

>It was Her turn!!!

Democrats cannot get out of their own way. This is all they have to offer, paying lip service to identity. I feel the petit-bourg ideology oozing from these snakes.


 No.2710627

>where's the blue wave

>muh house

>muh senate

Not even a Dem but do they really think midterms are the be all and end all? Some key districts and states have flipped, ignoring that is foolhardy.


 No.2710629

File: ee5ceae72a1ef23⋯.png (51.56 KB, 654x510, 109:85, Screen Shot 2018-11-06 at ….png)

Shit, Batista’s sun is gaining votes from classcucks.


 No.2710631

>>2710623

no, I was pointing to Theodore Roosevelt, running for the Bull Moose party

he was a former republican president, and totally sabotaged the republican vote, allowing for Wilson to wreck the electoral college


 No.2710633

bram what the fuck is going on


 No.2710634

It’s amazing how so many people are STILL falling for the blue / red tricks and other parties barely get 1% of the vote yet everyone thinks our government is shit


 No.2710636

>>2660016

>Testing


 No.2710639

>>2710634

Most people who aware that both parties are shit don’t vote.


 No.2710640

>>2710639

I’m surprised more attempts aren’t made to cater a leftist party to that “niche” (which is much more than a niche considering how large it is).


 No.2710641

>>2710613

>realsb4feels hahaha anyway tho i gotta go channel all my anime chi to ensure i have to pay my entire 401k for insulin because it'd own the jews or something


 No.2710644

File: 1e3117e6aa91882⋯.png (100.27 KB, 746x512, 373:256, huggies.png)

>>2701793

Have a good cry


 No.2710645

>>2710640

Greens already have a monopoly on that niche.


 No.2710646

>>2710645

I’ll believe that when they can get those people to actually turn and not be the butt of jokes


 No.2710647

File: dd60eee02cd1572⋯.png (193.14 KB, 500x366, 250:183, 6a00e3981b770d8833019b00be….png)

>>2710631

The old Moose and Squirrel, eh?

>>2710625

They're paid to throw the fight. It's all just political theatre.

>>2710517

>>2710533

Of course. It's rigged.


 No.2710649

Calling it now, Beto and Gillum will lose.


 No.2710650

>>2710640

Bruh you don’t understand how American electoral politics work. Their designed to stop third parties from gaining support. To set up a party requires you pass a mountain of paperwork the size of Das Kapital. Than in order to win elections you need funding from different companies for advertising. which only Porkies can give people. If you get pass the advertising disparity, than the CIA can just hack into the electronic voting machines are re-write the results. To do a recount you need to pay a fee of over five million, than the CIA can just rig it again. Burger elections are just memes.


 No.2710651

File: 1eaf03d95b4b121⋯.jpeg (96.16 KB, 1078x512, 539:256, 4ED934D9-7CC2-446F-BBF6-E….jpeg)

F


 No.2710652

File: 806664d70f12919⋯.png (60.11 KB, 665x517, 665:517, Screen Shot 2018-11-06 at ….png)

>>2710647

>Of course. It's rigged.

No shit, Tim Canova is massively popular. If he lost with 30% of the vote I’d believe it, but no way he got less than five percent.


 No.2710655

>>2710651

>Polls already closed

>it's still this neck and neck

I think O'Rouke VS Cruz is the first US political race I've ever seen where I didn't think it was a foregone conclusion


 No.2710656

Daily reminder that Canova is a gun-grabbing Zionist


 No.2710657

>>2710651

>10.8%

We won't know for sure until a couple of hours


 No.2710658

>>2710649

What I want to know is how energized are all those old reactionaries in the boondock areas of Florida? Those people are consistent as fuck.


 No.2710659


 No.2710660

>>2710656

Daily reminder Debbie Wasserman Schultz is a cocksucking faggot that anyone who replaces her will do.


 No.2710661

File: 5330039ee92af6f⋯.png (42.61 KB, 667x391, 29:17, Screen Shot 2018-11-06 at ….png)

Shit the son of Batista is winning.


 No.2710662

>>2710658

Never understimate the power of scared old boomers

We probably won't see another solidly Democratic Congress until at least half of them die off tbh

>tfw the Democrats will still be shit even then


 No.2710664

>Cruz projected

Not a surprise


 No.2710665

So who Won?

Will th Dems write "Why did we lose?" Articles for the next few months?

Or will a trumpkin blow up a planned parenthood or some shit?


 No.2710666

I just want another QAnon to blow Fed Buildings or some Rad Lib "Socialist" go and shoot people.


 No.2710667

>>2710665

>So who Won?

The bourgeoisie


 No.2710668

>>2710662

In 2100 the Republicans will be made up of Hispanics complaining about African immigrants who vote Democrat. Both parties will be pure astroturf neoliberals and any socialist/communist americans will be dead or in exile.


 No.2710669

File: 36fddb9760c96a8⋯.jpg (68.32 KB, 960x504, 40:21, dsa salazar.jpg)

Israeli-Latina wins


 No.2710670

>>2710669

The isreali's threw her under the bus


 No.2710671

File: eba9f9e90a6f8b2⋯.png (376.2 KB, 601x601, 1:1, davidbowiedab.png)

lol diabeto lost to the zodiac killer


 No.2710674

File: 21fdaed102f60f0⋯.jpg (91.9 KB, 750x870, 25:29, Beto.jpg)

File: 35d8febd755945d⋯.jpg (148.18 KB, 649x974, 649:974, potatotacos.jpg)

andale andale sassanach!


 No.2710675

>>2710662

For real, they all vote and they all are in complete lockstep with the party. No matter who it is, they were like this before Trump too.

>>2710665

One of them will do something I expect their terrorist attacks to continue to increase.

>>2710666

They will never attack any government buildings or any large corporations they will pick on average people as they always had. Also radlibs have zero capacity for violence.


 No.2710676

File: bb9601e8b839076⋯.png (62.69 KB, 670x621, 670:621, Screen Shot 2018-11-06 at ….png)

How have we gotten halfway though the House elections and no third parties/independents have won? Is the CIA hiring Eastern Europeans to rig Burger elections?

>>2710669

Would have sex with


 No.2710677

>>2710675

>They will never attack any government buildings or any large corporations they will pick on average people as they always had. Also radlibs have zero capacity for violence.

What is Oklahoma City Bombing?


 No.2710678

>>2710669

>Socialist

>Israeli

Tfu

>>2710677

A guy that sold copies of the Turner diaries off the back of his truck and was a member of fucking Aryan Nation?


 No.2710681

>>2710675

>For real, they all vote and they all are in complete lockstep with the party. No matter who it is, they were like this before Trump too.

Vid related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd5_nTwLVEg


 No.2710683

>>2710676

US Democratic System is Based off the Roman Model AKA basically a show democracy

The US was designed to be locked into a two party oligarchy for all time to maintain stability


 No.2710684

File: 6c8da79b46c7344⋯.png (33.44 KB, 660x270, 22:9, Screen Shot 2018-11-06 at ….png)

>tfw I don’t wanna wait tell 11, why do Califags have such weird time shit.


 No.2710692

Daily reminder that "a win is a win" should never be sound political strategy.

Winning 80/20 is cause for celebration. Winning 51/49 is not.


 No.2710693

>>2650976

How the fuck can Texas be calling it for Cruz when less than 30 percent of counties are reporting?


 No.2710694

File: 4360c3275079c53⋯.png (32.73 KB, 650x272, 325:136, Screen Shot 2018-11-06 at ….png)

Critical support for Lisa Remmer in her struggle agains Democratic Imperialism.


 No.2710699

File: 9553e49a0341b3a⋯.png (62.3 KB, 670x627, 670:627, Screen Shot 2018-11-06 at ….png)

BLUE WAVE


 No.2710700

The Senate has been called for the GOP, there are 13 more seats available to pad their majority.

Drudge Report has officially predicted a Democratic House.

Can someone explain to me what this means?


 No.2710702

>>2710693

You're just looking at something that is behind, I think. CNN is reporting 85% in.


 No.2710703

>>2710700

Like what would happen with a GOP Senate and a Dem House


 No.2710705

>>2710699

To be fair nobody with a half a brain thought the Dems were taking the Senate. The House was in play but it looks like at best the wave is going to turn out to be a drip. The Dems are a pathetic party.


 No.2710706

Democrats are so pathetic and spineless.

>>2710647

>They're paid to throw the fight. It's all just political theatre.

I think they are just that incompetent at even doing their own job under capitalism. Good for us (in the long term) I guess.


 No.2710707

>>2710700

Trump becomes a Semi-Lame duck

He can still use executive powers and has control of the senate to pass bills

But the GOP and Trump will be basically unable to push a bill through the Lower house without collaborating with the Dems


 No.2710709

>>2710683

America is an extremely dismal state. I really don't know what to do with it, it's painful to see because I imagine that there could be a sea change, but it would require immense change over decades. It's really fucking depressing, I live here. I don't want to endure that kind of drudgery.


 No.2710710

>>2710699

The House is the one to watch and will likely be the victim of the “blue wave”, even Trump conceded that a bit. It is in line with historical trends though. I’d be more surprised if the Republicans lost Senate seats, especially since a majority of their seats are safe this time around


 No.2710711

Im definitely voting GOP in 2020 just for the accelerationism. Anyone else?


 No.2710712

>>2710711

Kill yourself, memester


 No.2710713

>>2710711

i dont want war in Venezuela so no, and with bolso in brazil that would happen


 No.2710715

losing the house is good for trump. He will be able to continue doing nothing he promised, only now he has an excuse so his support base who has started to criticize him for not doing some things will be satisfied with inactivity and just work to win him reelection


 No.2710716

>>2710705

Still shows you what asfroturf this “Blue Wave” Bullshit is. All Democrats get the Gulag.


 No.2710719

>>2710703

Hopefully gridlock.


 No.2710720

>>2710709

Baby Boomers need to hurry up and fucking die.


 No.2710721

>>2710684

They're shredding/whiting out the Green, that's why.

>>2710652

Oh yeah. I suspect that Stein won a hell of a lot more than they let on.


 No.2710724

File: 257bfeb72e1b3f9⋯.jpeg (106.96 KB, 1055x604, 1055:604, 3581EA53-4A5E-4EE2-96DA-D….jpeg)

WSWS needs to step up their game. Damn


 No.2710725

>>2710703

Likely we’d get radical centrism where we invade Venezuela and Iran, privatize everything, but we allowed a female POC to become a general so it’s a-ok. Hopefully we’ll get a Government Shutdown.


 No.2710726

>>2710706

A combination of actual incompetence and deliberate schemers inhabit both parties.


 No.2710729

Honestly, if any remaining lib/socdem lurkers here had any illusions AT ALL that the Left in the USA wasn't entirely impotent, tonight should be a demonstration of how true that is. Not that the Democrats are a "Leftist party" or a "worker's party" at all, that's not the point. My point is, for Republicans to widen their majority this easily, with this little pushback or controversy, with even liberals and fucking Democrats concdeing this early, shows that the Left isn't doing enough. These races should have been violent both in rhetoric and in action til the very end if all the American "Leftists" actually gave a shit about Trump, the Republicans, and neoliberal Dems fucking everything up as much as they LARP like they do. But no, just another fucking easy night for the Right and everyone on "the Left" in the USA is supposed to feel alright about it because le AOC got into office even though that has been a foregone conclusion for months. Seriously fuck all of you who apologize for libs or the D.SA or anyone who just handwaved this shit into happening. There should have been massive demonstrations strikes, walkouts, and other forms of direct action and boycott this entire week similar to the French elections in 2016 just, AT THE VERY LEAST, to show the neofascists and neolibs winning all these midterm elections that they don't have a MANDATE. But you just allowed it all without even an ounce of indignation outside of stupid fucking social media posts. Everyone on the Left in America should be ashamed for not using this midterm as a greater opportunity to stir up anitestablishment sentiment, not by getting "le reformist Dems" elected necessarily (although that may have helped) but by actively mobilizing the working class or at least getting students to work harder to put pressure on the reformist wing of the Dems to actually try and win or at least challenge the OPEN FUCKING VOTER SUPPRESSION.

Fuck everything, I will never pay attention to any race in the USA ever again and will do everything in my power to actively discourage everyone I know personally and everyone on this board from ever voting in any fucking election because none of you actually give a shit about anything. Fuck all of you, let the Republicans have their 1,000 year Reich, America deserves it


 No.2710731

File: 2af1b8cfcf1e356⋯.png (46.64 KB, 656x394, 328:197, Screen Shot 2018-11-06 at ….png)

>>2710724

Lol, the other indpendit guy SEP is compeating with is not only a socialist, but ==Another Trot== The splits are to big. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Class_Party

https://ballotpedia.org/Gary_Walkowicz


 No.2710732

>>2710729

>Literally shaking


 No.2710733

>>2710731

>Trots running against Trots in the same district

Would it be that hard to form a temporary coalition? Lmfao


 No.2710737

>>2710734

Maybe if we scream at them more and call them evil racists, they'll understand our point of view.

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 No.2710738

>>2710699

>muh blue wave

>muh red wave

Man fuck all this hype there was never going to be any wave. This is the same shit they pull every election to get people voting.

This country swung hard right, it's going to take a while to recover from that. Trump and his cronies are going to be in the White House to at least 2020. Unfortunately if the dems keep up this shitty losing strategy they may put Trump in the White House until 2024

Hopefully the complete failure of the Dems to have any sort of opposition might push more liberals further left but that remains to be seen. Needless to say I can see more Americans being fed up with party politics


 No.2710739

>>2710731

>The Virgin SEP

>The Chad WCP


 No.2710742

>>2710733

I unironicly like Permate Revolution, however I’d never call myself a trot. It’s because of shit like this. Burgerland, alone has over fifty different Trot parties. They need to consolidate into a single party, than perhapses merge with some non-tort socialist parties. Anti-Sectariansm is pretty nessicary in the era of neoliberalism.


 No.2710743

>>2710734

>>2710737

Hey /pol/


 No.2710745

>>2710734

The Dems are far from transexual communist brigades. More like transexual capitalist police.


 No.2710749

>>2710732

>Kampuchea flag doesn't even have a comperhensible counter argument

Counter me surprised

>>2710734

1) The Dems are far from a "trans rights" party as well

2) if you think "the Left"=college neoliberalism here you need to go back /pol/ and reddit


 No.2710750

>>2710744

workers want christbol gang to win out, also nazbol gang


 No.2710752

>>2710734

>muh 0.1% of the population!!!


 No.2710753

Best reporting in the midterms so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNcs0LgnZLg&t=8s


 No.2710755

>>2710734

>The transsexual communist brigades

If the dems were actually this it would unironically still be better than our current situation


 No.2710760

>>2710744

>what the working class wants

I guess they want more austerity, war, debt, and beachfront property in Denver.


 No.2710763

File: 516f87b1dc07ed6⋯.png (45.95 KB, 628x433, 628:433, Screen Shot 2018-11-06 at ….png)

You had one job Florida, one job.


 No.2710764

>>2710763

Whose this tim camp a guy?


 No.2710765

>>2710764

*Canova


 No.2710767

>>2710763

Florida is not for anything good.

If there is a place that global warming will fuck hard and there would be no loss is the state of Florida.


 No.2710769

>>2710766

>thinking I wasn't talking about both parties

Honestly, I guess I wasn't clear.


 No.2710770

Given the results of the Midterms, do you agree that the working class in America, especially the backwards Flyover states really deserve to be exploited, poisoned and killed off by Porky?

I really have no sympathy for flyover states.

They can keep praising and worshiping Trump and the Republicans.

They deserve to die in poverty.


 No.2710771

>>2710750

American workers don't even vote. Suburban, petit bourg freaks are what decide this shit. Fortunately their time is limited now that the world is moving away from America. The labor aristocracy will be slowly picked apart by Trump himself during the recession and war.


 No.2710772

>>2710764

He the guy who’s a radical socdem. He’s similar to Jimmy Dore.


 No.2710773

>>2710770

>America, especially the backwards Flyover states really deserve to be exploited, poisoned and killed off by Porky?

no one deserves to be exploited and even if they did that dosne't vindicate the exploiter.


 No.2710774

>>2710770

Most people in those states don't even vote, dipshit. Voting is a fucking meme anyway.


 No.2710776

>>2710770

You also need to relax there buddy. I get that you don't like that MAGApedes are getting more of shit they like, but it is not like There were any socialists to vote for.


 No.2710779

File: 27b70897cb6f5e5⋯.jpg (95.72 KB, 920x613, 920:613, san francisco a7.jpg)

>>2710770

Nah coastal cities are just as bad. Actually they might be worse due to the fact that these people have the means to fight back against imperialism but choose not to because super profits provide them with the means to live like a king while families literally live in tents outside of their fucking high rises. America is lost. There is no salvation for it except through the painful (yet just) obliteration of its hegemonic power and the fucking filth that populate its "middle" and "upper" classes. This is how History works.


 No.2710781

>>2710737

>>2710734

>Its the "left is liberals" #3,100,405,604

There isn't even a leftist party to begin with


 No.2710782

>>2710770

Most people don’t vote. Stop blaming fellow prols for voter suppression.


 No.2710783

>>2710770

/pol/ pls go


 No.2710785

>>2710770

>They deserve to die in poverty

Imagine being a Marxist and thinking this


 No.2710786

>>2710775

>DeLeon

I wan to beleave


 No.2710787

Lol at NYTimes still clinging to the so-called Blue Wave.

Reporting my district as likely to go dem, even though she's 4 points behind with about 80% of precincts reporting.


 No.2710788

File: defb6e15d493ac4⋯.png (42.06 KB, 655x391, 655:391, Screen Shot 2018-11-06 at ….png)

How is there still no results? The DNC is probably tampering with the vote. They can’t let a green win.


 No.2710790

>>2710787

The Republicans will gain seats in the Senate, but in the house there’ll be a blue ripple.


 No.2710792

File: b6c30fd3539ebf1⋯.jpg (427.66 KB, 3100x2100, 31:21, obama financial crisis.jpg)

>>2710787

I mean doesn't anyone remember the Bush years? Dems tried the same shit they are doing now and it had almost no effect until Katrina and the Great Recession. That's almost six years of conservative victories. America is a reactionary shit hole that is only wealthy because it steals from others via imperialism. It's population by and large never goes "left" unless it is forced to by material conditions. Trump will never lose until there is a depression/recession, at which point his suburban hyena base will turn on him for fear of losing their shitty little imitation castles (which they will anyways lol.)


 No.2710795

>>2710792

Now that they got a taste of the good fascism, they're never going back. The moment there's a crisis, expect to see the disabled shipped to death camps (or just wait for it to happen slowly and gradually).


 No.2710800

File: e946069d0323ee9⋯.png (309.04 KB, 495x541, 495:541, e946069d0323ee9c4e6ed43827….png)


 No.2710801

File: dcb4dea038e19fc⋯.png (62.92 KB, 656x625, 656:625, Screen Shot 2018-11-06 at ….png)

Why are Burger elections so close?


 No.2710803

>>2710801

its stylistically designed to be that way


 No.2710804

File: 150735c93b127d2⋯.jpg (34.88 KB, 500x607, 500:607, 441e638.jpg)

>>2710801

Amerikkka is accelerating so fast I don't even seen darkness or light


 No.2710805

>>2710801

Gerrymandering and voter suppression means that few working people get to vote, thus they are usually decided by the same suburbanite types who have extremely similar political views.


 No.2710809

>>2710770

>heyyy there fellow lefties fuck the poor am I right wait no I'm not from /pol/ why isn't this going well for my screenshot


 No.2710812

>>2710792

During the Bush years Democrats lost both Senate and House members by a little bit. However Democrats managed to take the House and lost quite a bit of the Senate this time around. Considering that Trump's Approval rating is 5% higher with register voters and I'd say that Trump's support is pretty damn tenuous at this point. Ironically I believe that America is one of the more fascism resistant countries in the world, sad fact as that is. Considering the rise of the far-right in Europe, Trump's tepid welcome is kind of a letdown as far as fascists know. They'll probably realize that soon enough.


 No.2710813

File: 7765b158e642118⋯.png (50.37 KB, 663x508, 663:508, Screen Shot 2018-11-06 at ….png)

I want to strange every single person who voted Blue in this district. There was no Republican. No “Spoiler effect.” My god, fuck this gay Earth.


 No.2710814

Matt fucking dead on the livestream kek


 No.2710815

>>2710812

When fascism comes to America, it’ll portray it’s self as “Bipartisan”


 No.2710821

>>2710814

whats this now?

>>2710813

La gonna LA


 No.2710823

>>2710792

>>2710812

>I mean doesn't anyone remember the Bush years? Dems tried the same shit they are doing now and it had almost no effect until Katrina and the Great Recession.

Reminder that the Dems fell in line with Bush during Iraq and Afghanistan. Dem demands have no effect because in the end there isn't really a demand to change anything, the only demand is to be the ones making the decisions.


 No.2710824

>>2710813

>Vote blue no matter who!

t. "anarchist" chapotards


 No.2710825

>>2710821

>La gonna LA

I shouldn’t’ve expected a city with no Industry to vote for a socialist, but a man can hope.


 No.2710826

File: 4c2976abb8cdaaf⋯.png (334.35 KB, 615x301, 615:301, man down.PNG)


 No.2710827

Listen to all of these at the same time on max volume while chugging Narragansett, and you can feel 10% what america will be like for the next decade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL0CqVbhs7Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j25A_rN3u0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkEXUFlh_EA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqNfk5Lh8xA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stR5nWkq3LU


 No.2710830

>>2710824

Chapofags get the gulag to.


 No.2710831

>>2710827

>America will become an edgy preteen

I can get behind this


 No.2710832

>>2710815

Eh. Bipartisanship is a bit of a meme.


 No.2710835

>>2710829

The worse part is right before this election Jill Stein went on the Jimmy Dore show and said “Chicanos are understanding the power of the Green Party, the Chicano community whole hardily supports the Green Party”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHR5a_1XtUM


 No.2710836

>>2710835

>these people will all vote the same way because of some vague racial similarity

Spooky.


 No.2710838

So many delusional, wannabe terrorists in this thread.

Your "revolution" won't ever happen.

Most of you will die in poverty.

Americans will vote for fascism over communism/socialism/social democrats any day.

The Midterms proved that Americans are hopeless and deserve to suffer.

Glad i'm not an American.

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 No.2710839

>>2710835

self described chicanos probably

as someone from the southwest if a mexican identifies as chicano theyre either mexican hotep tier or noticeably left of the democrats(which isnt much but its something


 No.2710841

>>2710838

Pessimism of the Intellect, Optimism of the Will


 No.2710844

>>2710770

Shut up you butthurt social fascist, barely even a third of Americans vote in these, and good for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_2014

>36% turnout


 No.2710845

>>2710838

>The Midterms proved that Americans are hopeless and deserve to suffer.

<Not knowing this since these niggers almost made Washington a king.


 No.2710847

>>2710713

Obama's the one who launched the coup against Dilma in the first place. You're delusional if you think some substitute Hillary wouldn't work on a Venezuela invasion.


 No.2710848

>>2710838

>>2710770

Slightly changing the angle of approach, huh?


 No.2710849

File: e6e8ffafa27f734⋯.png (51.18 KB, 656x499, 656:499, Screen Shot 2018-11-07 at ….png)

Shit


 No.2710850

>>2710813

the greens are shit anyway


 No.2710852

File: 9116bb175cecaa1⋯.png (32.82 KB, 430x329, 430:329, kansas.png)

File: b4f7f8aa440e57b⋯.png (24.04 KB, 267x217, 267:217, 1541565097256.png)


 No.2710853

>>2710849

andrew gillum lost too

dems did pick up 25 seats in the house so far. seems like the first time that the party in power wins senate seats and loses house seats. although the senate seats was that hodge podge of fucking DINOS


 No.2710854

>>2710729

Shut up and read a book.


 No.2710855

File: b5c23786c942b99⋯.jpg (248.12 KB, 1665x810, 37:18, b5c.jpg)

>>2710813

Just let California drop into the fucking ocean already and give all the surrounding states the free seaside real estate. I have never had a Californian come over here who wasn't either an insufferable hard-right conservative, an obnoxious over-emotional liberal, or a mix of both.

t. East Coast


 No.2710857

File: ccbbb594301c40c⋯.jpg (15.09 KB, 238x212, 119:106, yuck.jpg)

>>2710827

>Narrangansett

Unrelated to that post, it seems as if Bernie Sander's approval rating is slipping bit by bit as time yearns on. Most people in Vermont still voted for him, but he only got 67.4% of the vote instead of the projected 67.8% of the vote. I know he is a succdem and all, but I'm starting to see that support for even succdem polices are starting to slip up a bit. Maybe I'm just worried for no reason though.

Gallup also had his approval rating down from 56 to 53 with a 38 from 35 disapproval rating.


 No.2710863

File: 08f33954b90af66⋯.jpg (130.4 KB, 621x800, 621:800, rumia34523.jpg)

>america gets legislative gridlock

>europe is moving around US sanctions on Iran

>China is growing even stronger

Feeling pretty good about the future right now honestly.


 No.2710864

>>2710857

Everyone's learning to hold their nose around the rose.


 No.2710865

>>2710852

Makes sense. Brownback didn't exactly leave Kanasas in good condition


 No.2710866

>>2710859

It's hard telling these days whether posts like this are /leftypol/ gang double-baiting or /pol/ pretending to be what they think /leftypol/ is


 No.2710867

>>2710859

Go back to sucking Israel's cock /pol/


 No.2710873

>>2710852

i mean they just had two terms of brownback, who halfway turned the state into ancapistan


 No.2710874

>>2710863

What you think will happen?


 No.2710876

>>2710874

Knives are out in the Democratic party between progressives and liberals. Hopefully they kill each other.


 No.2710877

>>2710857

its the fact that the economy is shitty but its better off than 2 years ago so people think maybe the republicans are better for the economy


 No.2710879

>>2710863

i mean i know dengism is better than natoworld

but shit we should still have higher aspirations than that


 No.2710880

>>2710863

Not too impressed to be honest with you Christfag.


 No.2710882

File: a379e90193f9ae6⋯.png (380.21 KB, 999x815, 999:815, a379e90193f9ae6b87740a72f5….png)

>>2710859

I know this is either bait or a flaseflag or satire, but reminder that liberals get the wall too.


 No.2710886

The MSM honestly fucked Dems. They literally ran stories about a migrant caravan for the entirety of October, a story about some SNL comedian making fun of a Navy Seal the 3 days before the vote, splashed their front pages with Kemp's evidence free accusations the past 2 days. This was pure red meat for Trump's base. It's bad enough Dems were running a bunch of librarians, but to not have an October surprise and to let Trump's migrant invasion dominate discussions.. That's literally how Dems lost their early initiatives. The MSM is not their friend, but they think it is.


 No.2710887

>>2710874

The start of the beginning of a post-American world and the end of American hegemony.

>>2710879

A castrated America (i.e. a state without a massive empire, global, and unchallenged empire at its disposal) would be much more amenable towards socialism. Suburbanites wouldn't exist in nearly the same numbers as they do today (so no more gen z fashies.) Boomers will all fucking die. I mean the positives are pretty big. Things are looking up globally.


 No.2710890

>>2710886

Dems don't care about anything. They exist to collect donations and enrich themselves. Reminder that Pelosi alone has a net worth of something like $150 million. The left in America needs to abandon entryism.


 No.2710892

>>2710886

>>2710890

Good points as a whole. The one thing that MSM is good at selling is how the Democrats control the media, even though the only thing that actually supports this is greater representation of fags and darkies for the sake of greater international appeal. The rest of it has been cloyingly centrist that gives token concessions to both sides, but arguably focuses more towards the GOP because porky would rather have people drinking liberalism-ultra vs liberalism classic.


 No.2710909

>>2710890

Pelosi had the fucking gall to talk about bipartisanship tonight. Voting doesn't matter. Democrats are cryptofascists. America is fucked.


 No.2710924

I originally assumed that an attempted impeachment was inevitable if democrats take the house, but now I'm not so sure. There would definitely be an opportunity cost for democrats in certain districts, so Pelosi might not be able to whip the votes.


 No.2710927

>>2710909

what's wrong with talking about bipartisanship?


 No.2710928

>>2710924

They don't have the Senate it would be impossible anyway


 No.2710929

>>2710927

it undermines the power of the working class


 No.2710930

>>2710928

an attempted impeachment would still initiate a political firestorm, even if it was immediately shut down in the senate


 No.2710931

>>2710813

>THE WORLD IS FUCKED THE CLIMATE IS FUCKED AAAAAA GLOBAL WARMING HAS GIVEN ME SADBRAINS

>VOTE BLUE!

Thank you reddit, very cool!


 No.2710933

>>2710927

If someone votes for a Democrat, they did so because they didn't want a Republican to win. If that Democrat then decides to vote with Republicans anyway for the sake of bipartisanship, what was even the point of voting?


 No.2710934

>>2710933

To get the GOP out! :^)


 No.2710935

Hey, folks.

It's Georgia congressional candidate anon, here with an important update.

Looking for tallies, I've found that the Georgia Secretary of State's site only links to another private "unofficial" site which actually doesn't even include data for how many votes I got. However, I know I got votes. And I certified with the SoS's elections office and the FEC at the start of the campaign so that, as a registered write-in, votes would actually get counted.

But thus far that data is unavailable. If it doesn't exist, then it's a confirmation that they scrapped votes. I'll keep pursuing this in the morning and if I find nothing I'm taking this further. This is suppression - literal erasing of valid votes.


 No.2710937

File: 1523e961ff7cf55⋯.jpg (53.43 KB, 750x422, 375:211, gillium3452.jpg)

>walk back on M4A and ICE

>gets Hillary endorsement

>then proceeds to campaign with Hillary in a state that just two years previously had voted for her opponent

Was he trying to lose?


 No.2710938

>>2710935

Good luck anon. Makes me wonder how much weird shit they're pulling over here in Alabama.


 No.2710944

>>2710937

>>2710937

a bunch of clinton dems joined his campaign after he won the primary. he should have just taken their money and not listened to them


 No.2710946

Did any of you guys go out and vote for local elections and referenda at least?


 No.2710947

>>2710946

lol no. It wouldn't have mattered at all where I live.


 No.2710959

File: c38559aeab94caf⋯.png (559.14 KB, 653x550, 653:550, socialsit.png)

File: 5a4a971f918b3c3⋯.jpg (227.74 KB, 1200x1200, 1:1, judge.jpg)

>>2710849

Dems in Texas put messianic hopes on Beto that were never realistic, but that he got it within 3 points is shocking and I will tell you that Republicans here had a very bad night if you look at local races.

Houston Democrat Cops of America had all three of their candidates elected and Republicans got BTFO'd in Dallas and Houston. Also a socialist judge who got elected in Houston was retweeting supporters wearing a hammer and sickle t-shirt lol hell yeah.

One thing I learned very quickly when getting involved in socialist organizing though is how much liberals hate the left – like visceral hatred. I stopped by a Beto watch party tonight (meeting up with a friend and observing) and ended up talking briefly to some old, PTSD-ridden Democratic Party activist. She was lovely actually, and was really down with socialism when I started talking about it, but still too attached to the psychological life raft that is liberalism. Well, while I was talking to her, some young douche in a Beto shirt overheard and said something snotty about "democratic socialism." And I looked at him and said "I support all socialists." (Implication here being that I don't punch left.) He shut his trap and didn't say anything else after that.


 No.2710968

Mainly I just want to emphasize how much a lot of your rank-and-file, Pod-Save-America bro who is involved in the Democratic Party is a piece of shit. They will talk about social justice one second and then march 100,000 people into death camps the second if it gives them the superficial edge in the balance of power.

Say what you will about the D*SA types but they are leagues better than them.

>>2710933

>If someone votes for a Democrat, they did so because they didn't want a Republican to win. If that Democrat then decides to vote with Republicans anyway for the sake of bipartisanship, what was even the point of voting?

Two answers.

The first is (a) lmao because you're a weirdo like me who thinks it's fun. I like going to the polls and voting and all that. But I consider this a fairly benign perversion of my part and wouldn't necessarily recommend it. Otherwise don't take it too seriously.

Second is (b) because you might actually agree with a Democrat on a few things. The right is very good at exploiting cleavages to their advantage. So take your average /pol/ guy. He might actually agree with us on most issues but because the GOP tells him that feminists want to take away his video games, he will end up voting for Republicans. Even when someone agrees with us 90% of the time, that 10% is a dealbreaker and the right peels him away. To make matters worse, the left tends to be hyper-obsessed with turning a small number of high-activity recruits into *correct* activists who follow the party line 100% of the time, when political reality is more about playing to the percentages and influencing large numbers of people who won't agree with you on everything.


 No.2710974

Time for liberals to start blaming the Left and third parties for losing and completely forget about all the Republican and neoliberal Democrat-led voter suppression and disenfranchisement, big money/dark money in elections, voting machine flips, and other blatant ruling class trickery they didn't mind openly criticizing until literally this instant


 No.2710975

Yo, I usually don't come here or go to /pol/ at all that much.

I just kinda show'd up for the midterms. Went to /pol/, been there done that.

Seems like another Stalemate Election. Y/N?


 No.2710977

There is no saving the American working class, sorry but they are just too dumb, the sooner we move away from American hegemony the better it is.


 No.2710980

Last post before I hit the sack, but I was emboldened by those socialists winning those judge races, which incorporate mega-city urban districts larger than several states. They ran on ending the cash bail system which currently pressures poor people – and I mean dirt-poor people working shit jobs in kitchens – into pleading guilty when caught up for minor crimes and then paying cash bail because they can't afford to sit in the clink for weeks before they get their case heard. If your socialism isn't focused on the dirt-fucken-poor wherever you live then it ain't shit

>>2710975

>Seems like another Stalemate Election. Y/N?

Pretty much. The U.S. system is in a state of prolonged two-party siege. Both parties are hyper-obsessed about the superficial edge in the balance of power. This reflects a loss of vitality in the system. It's kind of like trench warfare if you think about it, with enormous sums of money and mobilizations being deployed for incremental gains which prove fleeting.


 No.2710981

>>2710977

> they are just too dumb

We've been over this a thousand times ITT but

1) If you think socialism is about "saving" the working class rather than aiding them in replacing the bourgeoise as the ruling class then you fucked up somewhere in your studies and should probably start over

2) The vast majority of American working class people don't vote for various reasons (many often try to and are disenfranchised, have their votes flipped in deep-red counties anyway, can't because they were put in prison for some petty crime etc)

3) Therefore about 90 percent of elections are decided by petit-bourg, both liberal and conservative, and retired boomers who have the time to vote

Also voting is a spook in the first fucking place so shut the fuck up


 No.2710982

>>2710977

Well that's going to happen regardless. Breton Woods/ "Ameriga world police" was never sustainable. It was just a containment strategy for the soviets.

In time America will withdraw into Isolationism again. After all, both Obama and Trump ran on getting out of the middle east ASAP. They didn't deliver, but Americans don't actually want to be British Empire 2.0.


 No.2710986

>>2710981

>many often try to and are disenfranchised, have their votes flipped in deep-red counties anyway, can't because they were put in prison for some petty crime etc

Blue zones are just as bad.

Both sides do it. But I don't mind the different political sides accusing each other of voter fraud.

It Pushes the country closer to implementing more secure voting systems in the process.


 No.2710987

>>2710986

>more secure voting systems in the process.

meant to say more fair.

oof.


 No.2711058

File: 520406f27513d9c⋯.png (151.36 KB, 900x600, 3:2, world_socialist_flag_by_fr….png)

So Ocasio-Cortez, a demsoc got elected. Apparently, half-chan's /pol/ is salivating over her aesthetics.

There is now a gateway for non-demsoc left ideals to make their way into the American mainsteam - the Overton window has shifted in favour of the left.

So the question is, what should our geopolitics consist of? What is the foreign policy a socialist America - of any variety - should abide by? Very optimistically, if America becomes more than demsoc, how should it conduct itself on the world stage before the idealized world revolution? How do we avoid social imperialism in the process?

What specifically would American Socialist foreign policy in Latin America be like? What would the role of a socialist CIA be? Against states like Bolsonaro's Brazil, what should the conduct of a Socialist America be? Outright war is a highly risky option, CIA operations have a history of blowback.

Should a socialist America engage with Maduroism or avoid it altogether?

What would a socialist America do to resolve Pacific disputes with China? Is a Sino-Amerisoc split inevitable from the beginning or can there be a group of two?

How should Socialist America engage with liberal/increasingly illiberal Europe?

How does one appropriate the armed forces and military-industrial complex to serve the geopolitic needs of Socialist America?


 No.2711061

Interesting in Maine that despite using AV, 3/4 major races were all won on strait majorities anyway.


 No.2711065

The Chapo Sub back at it again with the hilariously horrible takes

>>2711058

>the Overton window has shifted in favour of the left.

Nancy Pelosi already said she's going to be comitted to cucking out to the Republicans in the Senate for at least another two years so no, it hasn't. Also the Overton Window argument is fucking stupid as shit


 No.2711066

File: 800780857794003⋯.png (19.62 KB, 868x235, 868:235, oof.png)

>>2711065

forgot pic


 No.2711067

>>2711058

OAC is a fucking idiot and will cuck the shit out of all her fanboys.


 No.2711072

File: 6a3bd31f0060bdd⋯.jpg (87.11 KB, 1024x710, 512:355, bougie.jpg)

File: a95a654178680be⋯.png (414.4 KB, 1299x615, 433:205, perez_cortez.png)

File: 6fcabd2ec8e3354⋯.png (69.85 KB, 923x173, 923:173, Ocasio.png)

File: 3d1c63bc4f17dd7⋯.png (286.2 KB, 1265x565, 253:113, obama.png)

>>2711067

>OAC is a fucking idiot and will cuck the shit out of all her fanboys.

This

Nothing short of a complete obliteration of the US economy and the ensuing chaos/fascism that brings about will wake anyone up


 No.2711118

>>2711072

OAC is zero-theory foot soldier gang


 No.2711178

File: 11abee86c985519⋯.jpg (198.8 KB, 600x828, 50:69, TrotskyCivilWar.jpg)

>>2711058

>What is the foreign policy a socialist America - of any variety - should abide by?

Permeant Revolution.


 No.2711179

File: a415212388589b3⋯.png (56.5 KB, 661x506, 661:506, Screen Shot 2018-11-07 at ….png)

Over seven thousand votes were for in total for two trots candidates in a single seat. This is higher then expected, but far from enough.


 No.2711181

>>2710946

I "threw my vote away" and voted for some third party candidates that were explicitly socialist, but under normal circumstances I would have just stayed home.


 No.2711183

File: 30873ce3fff24d1⋯.png (36.58 KB, 652x401, 652:401, Screen Shot 2018-11-07 at ….png)

I want to strange every labor aristocrat “Any Blue Will Do”faggot.

>>2711181

What seat?


 No.2711185

>>2711183

I love how people have been losing their minds over global warming here throughout 2016/17 and on reddit over the last few months and nobody shilled for Mejia. I only heard about them when this pic started getting posted.


 No.2711218

File: 23c0f978cd3087f⋯.jpg (62.94 KB, 1199x281, 1199:281, Screenshot_20181107-123335.jpg)

Lol, Libertarians got 16% in Alaska.


 No.2711221

>>2711218

Oh shit, Alaska will get it’s Age of Consent lowered. I feel bad for all Alaskan Children.


 No.2711231

File: db04e14fb9d2752⋯.png (125.37 KB, 719x618, 719:618, Screen Shot 2018-11-07 at ….png)

Why do these people show up on a Jimmy Dore video of all places.


 No.2711240

>>2711231

i dunno, i see boomers post on communist youtubers as well (even on really small ones with only a few hundred subs, which makes it even weirder). it's always the same "MOVE TO VENEZUELA" bullshit, too.

it's almost like they are NPCs or something. hmmm.


 No.2711248

>>2711221

If 16y is old enough to be conscripted in war time, he/she is old enough to fuck.


 No.2711251

>>2711221

>>2711248

age of consent is 16 where i live


 No.2711255

File: 79d912504f8dfe8⋯.png (505.89 KB, 1167x907, 1167:907, jmhfgdh4ydg54bs54.png)

Am I the only one who thinks it's weird the Daily Stormer actually believes in voting now.


 No.2711256

File: d345c74ce003aad⋯.jpg (91.32 KB, 750x850, 15:17, RightWingNPC4.jpg)

>>2711240

The memes write themselves


 No.2711263

>>2711256

boomer twitter is full of the same accounts i swear.

they always have some MAGA profile picture, an American flag emoji, and the word patriot somewhere in their name.


 No.2711275

>>2711179

>Two trots running for the same seat

Fucking lmfao


 No.2711280

>>2711218

What's the (U) party and how did they get elected and then only win 1.7% in the incumbency?


 No.2711289

>>2711255

wouldn't they adopt any belief that they think will set them against things they perceive as "leftist"?


 No.2711304

>>2711289

now that you put it that way, probably


 No.2711307

>>2710924

This same leadership didn't try to impeach Bush and he was a fucking war criminal. What are they gonna impeach Trump over, not wanting to bomb Russia enough?


 No.2711308

Fucking cancel Pelosi and Schumer and all the centerlibs like Joe Manchin and their ilk.

APPEALING TO THE CENTER DOESN'T FUCKING WORK, NEOLIBS ARE NOT POPULAR


 No.2711365

What is the importance of the governorship? Seems like Democrats won a lot of but not much news and attention is on it though.


 No.2711376

>>2711365

Chief Executive of each state. DeSantis can start death camps for all spics (that aren't Cuban) and Haitans if he wants.


 No.2711382

>>2711376

So part of Executive or Legislative branch? People don't seem to be that focused on Dem's 7 gains though. Is it a big deal or do governorship change hands that easily?


 No.2711396

Elaborate me on midterms. Who won?


 No.2711409

>>2710792

>It's population by and large never goes "left" unless it is forced to by material conditions

This is literally any population that isn't oppressed on a national or ethnic level


 No.2711423

>>2711382

US states are like mini-countries with their own legislatures (house and senate), their own court system (inc. a state supreme court), and their own executive in the form of governors. States legislate anything not already legislated on the federal level.

It is a big deal but governors can't directly impede the federal agenda so gaining the House of Representatives is much more important for stopping Trump's proposals. However, in terms of day-to-day life (as well as redistricting after the 2020 census) the election of a governor has a lot of influence.

>>2711396

The democrats won, but not by as much as was hoped for by some liberal media. It should be kept in mind that in real terms it was a landslide (9.7% lead in the national popular vote) but because of gerrymandering and general assbackwardness of US elections dems have to win the popular vote by like 6 percent just to be even in seats gained.


 No.2711433

>>2711423

I know that US has senate and house of representatives. What is the difference and role of each and where did democrats won? Did it trigger pol? Will it slow down trump?


 No.2711438

Ok, so I see democraps got 220, republicucks 193.


 No.2711441

>>2711433

>What is the difference and role of each and where did democrats won?

The House and the Senate both make up the legislative body of the US.

Dems won House, Republicans won Senate. This'll probably mean a totally dumbshit gridlocked legislative body that might slow down Trump, but odds are he will then just rely more heavily on executive power and the Supreme Court, which is probably gonna go even more Republican.

>Did it trigger pol?

Possibly, I haven't checked. Though the official political stances of both parties is gonna be "well yeah but we won (x)"

>Will it slow down trump?

Prolly not, see above.


 No.2711443

>>2711058

a Socialist American foreign policy would be Pan-American and Plurinational (in the Bolivian sense)


 No.2711445

>>2711423

>the election of a governor has a lot of influence

So basically the Dems can redraw the census in their favor in 7 new states?


 No.2711447

>>2711396

No-one won, everyone lost, again.

It's American politics, what did you expect?


 No.2711448

>>2711447

Not true, the big bourgeoisie wins in every election


 No.2711449

>>2711441

What is the role of and difference between senate and house of representatives?


 No.2711452

>>2711447

Good answer, but it's nice when pol is triggered since they consider democraps literal communists.


 No.2711457

>>2711449

Senate can impeach, ratify treaties, and confirm court and Presidential cabinet members. House decides on revenue raising.


 No.2711463

>>2711449

House writes and passes bills, which go to be voted on in the Senate, which needs to be approved by the President.

House is a clusterfuck because it has a set minimum number of representatives per state BUT it also has a maximum number of members, so it ends up being that Republicans are heavily over-represented in the House.

Senate is less of a clusterfuck because every state only gets 2 representatives. Still leans Republican because there are just more rural states, but it works more than the House does.

Both House and Senate can have different organizations branching off of it, like how both House and Senate have had investigations working alongside Muller. These committees and subcommittees actually do some semi-important stuff like create economic plans and projections and the like.

Also what >>2711457 said is semi-true.

The Constitution empowers the House of Representatives to impeach federal officials for high crimes and misdemeanors and empowers the Senate to try such impeachment.


 No.2711467

>>2711463

>House writes and passes bills, which go to be voted on in the Senate, which needs to be approved by the President.

And this crap is called democracy?

Good answer, thank you.


 No.2711474

>>2711467

There was a bit I didn't mention for brevity.

If the president rejects a bill, if the House and Senate both approve it again with a larger majority, it is considered veto-proof and becomes law despite the president's veto.


 No.2711477

>>2711463

>>2711467

bills can originate in either chamber and need to be approved by both chambers


 No.2711478

>>2711467

>And this crap is called democracy?

Ya gots to have Checks and Balances™ for a perfect republic otherwise you get Mob Rule and that's just not cool


 No.2711481

>>2711474

Most countries have similar nonsense. bourgeois representative democracy is parody.


 No.2711483

>>2711477

Also true, but normally it is the House that proposes bills. I just gave a tl;dr of how the government usually functions.


 No.2711484


 No.2711518

DSA picked up a surprising amount of seats, including a fairly radical socialist Texan judge. So that's cool, at least. Dems are already fucking up this threadbare win though, of course


 No.2711520

File: 946be3fa969f549⋯.png (62.76 KB, 331x303, 331:303, 1490502351814.png)

>tfw Washington State rejected carbon fees

lol get fucked eco-austerity lovers. This state has enough regressive taxation already.


 No.2711525

>>2711518

critically support the Democrat Cops of America against clintonite imperialism


 No.2711532

Looks like the Q Brigade is taking this news well

https://imgur.com/a/ilFlS0L


 No.2711534

>>2711532

>the boomers writing in all caps like it's facebook

I'm glad /trash/ and /mu/ are the only boards I browse on halfchan


 No.2711537

>>2711534

they're even using ellipses as well.


 No.2711538

>>2711532

Satisfying as boomer tears are, definitely expect more schizo shootings because of this. Some new batshit conspiracy about why it fell apart will no doubt take hold of whatever fringe remains.


 No.2711541


 No.2711546

>>2711538

Schizos are also satisfying.


 No.2711550

>>2711538

>schizo shootings

Even if this is true it's more than appropriate to call them acts of terrorism.


 No.2711553

>>2711532

>facebook typing

god I almost feel bad for non-boomer posters


 No.2711561

>>2711255

>andrew anglin

>noodle-armed edgelord

>chad

Fucking lol


 No.2711564

House exit polls:

Men: 48 D, 51 R

Women: 59 D, 39 R

18-29: 67 D, 31 R

30-44: 59 D, 38 R

45-64: 49 D, 49 R

65+: 49 D, 50 R

White: 45 D, 54 R

Non-white: 76 D, 22 R


 No.2711570

>>2711065

>hilariously horrible

They didn't really say anything of particular substance, just hypotheticals couched in very hedged language. Isn't chapo also not much in favour of voting and so on?


 No.2711573

File: 685630957310fc4⋯.png (280.93 KB, 1118x775, 1118:775, gfdsfg453trsges.png)

How long can /pol/ keep this up before they realize Trump fucked them sideways.


 No.2711574

>>2711570

idk Matt basically admitted that American elections a spectator sport and he's in it mostly for fun. Their attitude from the beginning was basically that America needs to shift from authoritarian neoliberalism by any means necessary.


 No.2711577

>>2711570

>>2711570

The Chapo subreddit is filled with "anarchists" who not only support people like Beto in Texas but even fucking canvas for the guy. They also throw huge tantrums whenever someone suggests that trying to infiltrate the Dems is a waste of time.


 No.2711580

>>2711574

>>2711577

so the subreddit isn't like the podcast? do people hate the subreddit more than the podcast?


 No.2711584

You know something I've noticed: i look up a lot of programmes for various people who won and in foreign policy I find jack shit. Like people like AOC or other Democrat Cops of Americaians say their anti-war shit, and the CIA dems talk about DEFENDING AMERIGA, but the people like that native american lass who won in New Mexico have jack shit. Not sure if hiding power levels or if they will just cuck-out.


 No.2711594

>>2711584

The American media no-platforms anti-imperialists and anti-interventionists. Also having vague foreign policy means you can sell out later without looking like a hypocrite (AOC will do this.)


 No.2711609

Another thing about each state have two senators (50 states = 100 senators) is that it's like the U.N. – and the U.N. copied the U.S. system in some ways. To get smaller states to sign on, the U.S. said "okay, you get an equal vote in the upper house of congress" basically. It's the same model in the U.N. where small countries have an equal vote to bigger ones, although in practice the real power is held by the U.N. Security Council. The net result in the U.S. is a disproportionate amount of power held by conservative, rural states since there are more of them relative to the big, populated coastal states.

I'm not sure how the EU does this but it's like trying to convince Greece to join a union dominated by big countries like France and Germany.

>>2711518

>DSA picked up a surprising amount of seats, including a fairly radical socialist Texan judge.

Yeah and it's my impression that socialists play harder outside of the coastal areas. Being a 'leftist' in California or New York is easy because you probably grew up that way. They will buckle much faster than the ones in the interior of the country. I'm biased towards my leftist friends in the interior though

>>2711584

I think adding onto the problem is that: "what does a leftist foreign policy even look like?" There's just nobody doing that work. Since the 1940s there have been national-security hawks dedicating their lives to the imperial project and they go to work for institutions with annual budgets in the many millions of dollars. They also dominate media discourse as the other anon said. If you're a leftist and you're running, there's no set of talking points to use. You're own your own.


 No.2711616

>>2711580

I know I hate the subreddit more than the podcast, the podcast and /leftypol/ got me into gommunism in the first place


 No.2711627

Matt "Purge the Unbelievers" Shea won again in Washington.


 No.2711633

>>2711627

>Eastern Washington

It's all just brutally oppressed migrant labor and uptight boomers out there. Not surprising.


 No.2711638

>>2711633

are the uptight boomers REALLY down for America to turn into Iran but with Protestantism instead of Shia?


 No.2711656

File: 48b7a93c0ebf9ed⋯.png (10.77 KB, 211x246, 211:246, 7c6.png)

File: 252a3d134574d3a⋯.pdf (75.66 KB, Biblical_Basis_for_War.pdf)

>>2711627

>If they do not yield – kill all males

>War is not waged against nations but against man (no scorched earth or Sherman’s march to the sea).

I don't understand, so you can kill every man but you aren't allowed to damage property?


 No.2711663

>>2711656

Bourg gonna bourg. Also using the Bible to justify imperialism is fairly common in the west. It's one of the many reasons why it needs to end.


 No.2711665

>>2711663

How he thinks he can wipe half of a society from the face of the earth without total war tactics is beyond me.


 No.2711670

>>2711573

Guess we found out who Ivanka’s true mouther is.


 No.2711683

File: 512a6e1aa48649b⋯.png (43.19 KB, 500x328, 125:82, arachnophobic-huh-you-must….png)

>>2690735

Find an actual study that actually shows wether the homophobes are closet homos meme is true


 No.2711689

>>2711683

Normal straight people aren't fixated on homosexuality.


 No.2711704

>>2711683

t. faggot in denial


 No.2711706

Sessions is gone


 No.2711708

Sessions is kill

Press s to shit on career


 No.2711711

Trump's got 2020 in the bag huh


 No.2711721

>>2711255

Wtf is Anglin a Boomer now?


 No.2711725

>>2711573

Dude le irony xD


 No.2711726

So trump fired Sessions and the guy overseeing mueller

What's his play?


 No.2711727

>>2711726

find a bigger yesman


 No.2711738

>>2711726

midterms are over so he can move to kill the mueller investigation now


 No.2711755

>>2711577

>filled with "anarchists" who not only support people like Beto in Texas but even fucking canvas for the guy.

Anarchism: 2018


 No.2711757

>>2711708

>>2711706

This might be could news for the cannabis industry

inb4 the markets rally around cannabis as a means to delay the inevitable depression/recession


 No.2711761

>>2711580

>do people hate the subreddit more than the podcast?

Yes including the podcast themselves, the subs userbase has been taken over by all the tards that made socialism unpopular on reddit in the first place. It was funny a year or so ago but now it gets dull pretty quickly when their shtick wears off.


 No.2711766

>>2711689

Right, so treating "homophobia" pretty much as blasphemy and having people who don't actively support gay 'marriage' isn't being fixated in homosexuality but saying it's not good is being fixated

>>2711704

Shut up you decadent fascist


 No.2711768

File: 1f6396637f9d2ac⋯.jpg (112.76 KB, 500x312, 125:78, mao weed.jpg)

>>2711757

>yfw all those dumb stoner guys who said weed farming could replace the factories in the rust belt were right


 No.2711769

>>2711766

gays are proles idiot


 No.2711770

>>2711711

friendly reminder the economy will crash well before then

Trump's base is still mad about him not doing all he claimed, the whole Qanon conspiracy formed directly out of this dissatisfaction.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump hit the shit after the economy explodes and see a smart republican who can actually put together an effective fascist political program take the reigns.

Trump is too stupid to be the American Hitler. Someone will come afterwards to tie all his loose ends together.

And that person is already alive and walking around today. I wonder if he is already in the public eye?


 No.2711774

>>2711769

Why is LGBT culture so intertwined with consumerism then?


 No.2711775

>>2711770

>Trump is too stupid to be the American Hitler

Can you think of anyone in the Republican party with the ideology of Matt Shea who won't prematurely blow their load?


 No.2711777

>>2711774

ALL American culture is intertwined with consumerism you fucking idiot. The whole point of America is to consume every industrialized country's surplus so overproduction crises don't hit as hard.


 No.2711778

File: 11545826948de51⋯.jpg (35.21 KB, 234x234, 1:1, 1483736784427.jpg)


 No.2711780

>>2711777

I'm not even talking solely about 'murica


 No.2711781

File: b960544539bb500⋯.jpg (197.76 KB, 960x960, 1:1, when un smonk weed.jpg)

>>2711768

Considering there is already cannabis stocks in circulation it is only a matter of time since there is money being made. Hopefully with Sessions out and Trump being the yes man to business interests that he is, ee might see a reversion to the earlier Trump stance of "leave it up to the states" as the fed reforms there stance and businesses cash in on a new market.

I had a feeling this election would be a positive for the cannabis industry. It really depends on how 2020 goes now. Abortion might be fucked though

>>2711770

>Qanon

Slowfag here, what the fuck is this qanon shit all about. Didn't the synagouge shooter believe in this conspiracy theory? Is it just more retarded /pol/ shit like pizzagate?


 No.2711783

>>2711781

Qanon is basically an Enhanced Reality Game based on the idea that Hillary, Bill, Nancy Pelosi, and Obama are being arrested and sent to Guantanamo bay and Trump is fighting le ebic deep state in secret based on nonsense cryptic posts by a tripfag on 4/pol/. It's the only way to square being an antisemite Trump supporter with his cuckery to Israel.


 No.2711785

>>2711780

Because the world is being yankeefied nigga.


 No.2711789


 No.2711791

>>2711638 .

yes


 No.2711797

>>2711770

I predict a Military Junta lead by James Mattis.


 No.2711798

>>2711797

>Mattis becomes the North American Pinochet

kill me


 No.2711800

>>2711797

>Mattis becomes the North American Pinochet

God what a horrible future


 No.2711807

I want a run off with Abrams winning just to spite my nazbol, boomer father


 No.2711811

>>2711797

good lord how horrifying


 No.2711812

>>2711770

>Trump is too stupid to be the American Hitler. Someone will come afterwards to tie all his loose ends together.

Richard "Anime Porn did more to advance European Culture" Spencer


 No.2711818

File: 674687faa0eba7c⋯.png (294.38 KB, 1400x882, 100:63, TrumpIs#Resistance .png)

The absolute power of the #Resistance, doing exactly what Trump wants.


 No.2711845

>>2711738

But he opens himself up to a House investigation in January which can subpoena anything Mueller found.


 No.2711868

>>2711818

I don't know if Nancy Pelosi is a cuck, an idiot or a plant.


 No.2711875

Dennis Hof, Dead Brothel Owner, Wins in Nevada Race

https://outline.com/MX7efx


 No.2711882

>>2711783

That level of cognitive dissonance is honestly amazing


 No.2711884

>>2711774

>Why is LGBT culture so intertwined with consumerism then?

I dated an Indian gay rights activist who was here in Burgerland for grad school. I will say he loathed and despised American LGBT culture, and didn't like much about America generally for that matter. He thought that it was a reflection of the general imperialist and colonialist society and that attempts to export it to India would backfire and also be fuel for the Indian right to cast gay men in his country as alien imports from the West.

Now, India has millions of gay people and my experience with him is the gay culture there is radically different but also familiar. They also like divas for instance but they have their own versions and are not listening to Barbra Streisand.

Basically this:

>>2711777

>ALL American culture is intertwined with consumerism you fucking idiot. The whole point of America is to consume every industrialized country's surplus so overproduction crises don't hit as hard.


 No.2711888

>>2711868

She's bourgeois, she's doing acting exactly in her class interests


 No.2711898

>>2711798

The destruction of Imperialism sooner or later ends up in the host country.


 No.2711969

>all the comments supporting him

Wtf is wrong with Burgers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C-kBVggFrs


 No.2711994

>>2711818

I think this tweet is unirionically a 3d chess move meant to undermine Pelosi


 No.2712003

>>2711969

American ideology is honestly so frighteningly powerful and illusory that you can make people believe anything. There's a supposed golden age and idol for every view possible, all of which conveniently fit into "What it means to be an American" that basically every issue and conflict devolves into "this isn't who we are," "this isn't who we used to be." Cultural memory here, or rather a radical lack of memory is functionally a disease.


 No.2712005

>>2711726

Rod Rosenstein wasn’t fired, he’s just no longer overseeing Mueller. The new AG isn’t recused.


 No.2712009

File: 1143eed954107f0⋯.jpg (56.13 KB, 309x323, 309:323, 1532255855691.jpg)

>>2712003

This

Being a burger is suffering, except I can't really complain since I'm not suffering as much as countries that America goes out of its way to make suffer.


 No.2712010

So is it Mueller time?


 No.2712011

>>2711781

>Slowfag here, what the fuck is this qanon shit all about.

Basically a Batshit insane cult that thinks Eric Trump or Someone else is sending messages to their obscure as fuck board and that Trump is basically the messiah

Check /qresearch/ if you want to see their full Autism

And no the church synagouge guy was just a NeoNatzi Polyp


 No.2712018

I've always known that we Americans only had the illusion of freedom

In my teens, my parents exposed corruption and illegal conduct in government

The retaliation made our life a living hell for years

First lawfare. The process is the punishment. A mockery of justice.

When we didn't fold, they threatened to kill us, and we went into hiding

This made quite an impression on a teenager

Good people who tried to lend a hand were also retaliated against

I personally witnessed the media publishing lies

We went to the FBI for help, but they refused to intervene

There was nowhere to go, no escape from hell, no path to freedom.

The system was structured to crush anyone who dared expose the reality

It was painful to hear patriotic self-congratulation about our freedoms

Veterans waved the flag and said they had given me my "freedom"

(I mistakenly thought the military was part of the problem)

When I heard Lee Greenwood on the radio, I cried inside to the lyrics

"I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free"

"The flag still stands for freedom, and they can't take that way"

The illusion of freedom can blind people to the reality of tyranny

And under the American flag, the tyrants had taken our freedom away

This ordeal forged in me a deep love of true freedom

I treasured the Federalist Papers, and the principles of America

I made a pilgrimage to the National Archives to see the Constitution

I always hoped for freedom, and deeply wanted to help heal what was wrong

But over the years I witnessed darkness falling across the entire world

I saw friends misled into mistaking this darkness for virtue and justice

I traced out some of the cabal's tendrils, but couldn't see the full picture

Their motivation and objectives eluded me (incomprehensible evil)

In this context, it was incredible to see the dawn of the Great Awakening

To realize that OTHERS UNDERSTOOD! and were FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM!

To realize that I was not alone, in knowing that our freedoms had fallen

To realize that I was not alone, in striving for liberation from the cabal

To realize that there was a plan, and see it unfold before my eyes

To know that the military is on our side, and has been on our side all along

I cannot describe the joy of seeing the American flag fly now for freedom

And hearing Lee Greenwood singing these lyrics live at MAGA was transcendent

I always hoped for freedom, and deeply wanted to help heal what was wrong

Today I had the opportunity (I never imagined that it would happen this way)

When voting today, I took a small but meaningful action to help liberate America

To help dispel the darkness, and liberate my brothers and sisters

To help create a brighter future, where the darkness is only in historical books

In co-ordinated action with millions of my fellow patriots (hello!)

In co-ordinated action with Q, and all who help implement the plan (thank you!)

TOGETHER, WE WILL BE FREE

WWG1WGA!


 No.2712020

>>2712009

I sure can. This is the first time in the life where I've worried about racist fascists. Being ambiguously brown means everybody just gets to project their brown Boogeyman of choice onto me. I'm seriously considering leaving this hell hole.


 No.2712021

File: 2d6e4fac6e63d05⋯.jpg (46.72 KB, 567x561, 189:187, autism not possible.jpg)

>>2712011

>/qresearch/

What the fuck is this shit. It's like the worst of 4/pol/'s and 8/pol/'s autism combined


 No.2712032

>>2712020

Nazis and race realists are less than one percent of the population, and there mostly poor hillbillies. The real fascism people should be worried about in the expansion of the police state, voter suppression, and the slow merger of the DNC and RNC into making America a one-party state. American fascism will clame to be “free and democratic.” It’ll appear centrist. It’s probley to late sadly to avoid this fascism though.


 No.2712057

>>2712032

I'd count neoconfederate/"southern pride" people as fascists. Not just people who wave the confederate flag and oppose removing confederate monuments, but the real "south will rise again" hicks that literally want to overthrow the "yankee occupation" and get revenge for the "war of northern aggression". The confederacy was literally a white nationalist ethnostate, after all. And there are a lot more of them that you might expect. I'd estimate 10% nationwide, and probably close to 25% in the south.


 No.2712101

File: 91f8c004a709caa⋯.jpg (122.07 KB, 960x960, 1:1, blood and soil.jpg)

File: b039931a17ae555⋯.jpg (80.38 KB, 800x449, 800:449, kkk march 1900s.jpg)

File: 74e755180c1f48d⋯.png (232.64 KB, 500x647, 500:647, kkk communist meetings 1.png)

>>2712032

>Nazis and race realists are less than one percent of the population, and there mostly poor hillbillies

In America white idpol ("race realism" is a contemporary manifestation of this) is generally used to justify reaction. It's been that way for centuries. America isn't just racist. It is the father or all racism. As the American empire continues its death spiral we should expect them to get even more explicitly racist, especially on an institutional level. We've already seen anglos in Australia try this with that whole "It's OK to be white" motion. T


 No.2712149

>>2710770

Checked the post history. Is a false flag.


 No.2712171

>>2712149

Ty based BV.


 No.2712255

File: 9c51d1a67472246⋯.jpg (346.04 KB, 1000x563, 1000:563, george lucas.jpg)

>People are about to do massive protests over Trump firing Jeff Sessions and potentially firing Mueller

>They won't do the same to stop the war Saudi Arabia is waging against Yemen, IDF soldiers blowing away thousands of Palestinians for throwing rocks, or to end the 7 or 8 wars the USA is directly waging against countries that never did anything to us

>They won't do the same to protest tax cuts or deregulation

>They won't do the same to protest environmental catastrophe

>They wouldn't do the same to protest Obama putting whistleblowers in jail

The Resistance is a massive joke and and I hate liberals more than right wingers


 No.2712256

>>2712255

Why would they be protesting the actions of a president who's not in office anymore? Or do you just mean when Obama was? I mean, I think I remember protests against his drone killings.

Didn't even know Sessions was fired. That's great, honestly. Was Sessions really fired? Fuck Sessions.


 No.2712257

>>2712256

Imagine having such shit reading comprehension you thought I meant they should protest something obama did around 4 years ago mostly now


 No.2712271

>>2712255

>the women's march happeend when trump was inaugurated,a massive "i don't like this guy" dripping with disgusting idpol

>no mass protest when wikileaks proved that the DNC cheated bernie out of the nomination

radicalized me pretty strong. most liberals are irredeemable.


 No.2712272

>>2712257

People unironically do that all the time, though. "Why aren't they protesting Hillary/Obama/insert-ex-president-or-neoliberal-shithead-here?" And people did protest for Manning, just (probably) not as many people because not enough millionaires cared.


 No.2712283

>>2712271

One of the biggest factors for radicalizing me was when I went to a Confederate statue protest. Really it was two protests a "permitted" one and one afterwards that was a lot more intense. The first one was alright and I met some comrades there but it was mostly just liberals giving longwinded platitudes about how bad racism is and shit. It also wasn't even at the actual monument it was like down the street and literally surrounded by cops on all sides and it was balls deep in IdPol and "Muh Russia Trump is putin's bitch" nonsense. A lot of people there obviously got tired of this and we marched down to where the monument actually was and to make a long story short it nearly turned into a riot. The next day the liberals and boomers who organized the rally united with the Republicans in bashing everyone who "violently" protested (the only violence that wasn't from cops was a black bloc guy getting in a fight with some Patriot's Prayer faggot).

Not only the poverty of the "permitted protest" (which itself is a massive oxymoron) and the liberals shaming everyone who left to go do some actual direct action but also the disorganized and chaotic way everyone who went to the unsanctioned protest went about demonstrating made me the tankie I am today.


 No.2712288

>>2712255

>Implying liberals aren't right wingers


 No.2712290

File: dfc5a12e43d883b⋯.png (16.39 KB, 589x148, 589:148, baraka.png)

>>2712288

You know what I meant


 No.2712423

>another shooting with 11 dead

ooooOOOH SAY CAN YOU SEE


 No.2712425

>>2712423

Go on, tell us more.


 No.2712431

File: 1a79e6c9a5b7068⋯.png (44.02 KB, 640x374, 320:187, E372D17A-B320-4190-807E-AD….png)

>inb4 she dies

I can only imagine what uproar that will cause


 No.2712454

>>2711807

>Nazbol

This is borderline progressive by American standards, don't worry if revolution ever comes not like he's gonna be able to get out of his chair to kill [insert minority group here] anyway, just push him on economics and ignore the idpozzed stuff about muh Blacks/Mexis/LGBT/Whatever


 No.2712484

File: 04944b4a5582a0d⋯.png (2.48 MB, 2048x2006, 1024:1003, Screenshot_20181106-202355.png)

Holy shit I can't wait for these massive moveon protests tonight for homelessness, income inequality, opioid epidemics, anti-war, workers rights, etc.

Just kidding. They're massive protests, protesting Robert Mueller and nothing else. I guarantee this will be infiltrated by CIA tonight to spread anti-communism and anti-left sentiments and sew confusion in people's minds as they equate fascism with communism since our education system sucks.

Imagine what this country could accomplish if liberals actually put the money and organizing effort into things that helped us move in a left wing direction.


 No.2712507

>>2712484

>Imagine what this country could accomplish if liberals actually put the money and organizing effort into things that helped us move in a left wing direction.

This is 100% down to you.

It's not even liberals - the active liberals wouldn't give a shit about left economics, generally, except progressives who fall for enough liberal bullshit to not be able to make much in the way of solid economic gains.

People who point to base building as a solution are right - if we don't have the money, the first thing we need is workers actively building a workers' movement. Left solidarity matters inasmuch as it boosts numbers and helps organization/funding, but if the funding's not there the priority has to be putting a popular workers' movement ahead of explicit leftism. Remember that a lot of people who despise socialism in America have no fucking clue what it even is - this can unironically be used to your benefit because if you just give them socialist or socialist-related (anti-state, pro-individual liberty, class struggle, etc.) ideas without associating it with leftism they may well like them. Same with pro-worker ideas in general (wage raises, anti-landlordism, unionism, anti-neoliberalism, anti-corporate revival) or anti-imperialist ideas.

But honestly, we also need the money - like, I say that more because I think there's a lot of leftist money that's just going into useless bullshit or sitting around. We're also probably poor as fuck… but I mean, there's still enough money to probably do a lot of big stuff if we put it into those things.


 No.2712520

File: b090a5985d318ae⋯.png (268.3 KB, 507x492, 169:164, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2712423

Jesus. Every week now these retards really do test my pro-gun stance.

>>2712431

lmao scenes if Trump gets 2 supreme court picks in one term.


 No.2712521

>>2712520

Just be more pro healthcare.


 No.2712532

File: 26bb34f5374ad3a⋯.png (1.86 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2712521

I do and I put special emphasis on how fucked the state of mental health care is in this country. I always wind up in arguments about this and they can't seem to comprehend it or how I can be pro-gun and anti-NRA. Also doesn't help that there's such a small presence of pro-gun "leftists" and the only other people pro-gun around are conservatives who are pissing themselves that everyone in the establishment wasn't armed to the teeth.


 No.2712538

>>2712532

It's pathetic how many anti-gun "leftists" you see. You can tell they're all liberals who are pissed off about their healthcare bills.


 No.2712557

>>2712532

>I always wind up in arguments about this and they can't seem to comprehend it or how I can be pro-gun and anti-NRA.

Just be concise.

The reason this is hard is because a lot of people are pussies who refuse to reconcile - it's simple. You don't trust the capitalist state to disarm the public and believe we need to have access to every possible right to fight it. Meanwhile, the NRA is an idiotic band of absolute reactionary fuckwits who have succeeded in getting the 2nd amendment associated intrinsically with delusional retards who think the government is socialist and constantly engage in shoutdowns against the grieving families of gun violence victims. The NRA also shills for pretty much every bullshit right wing cause under the sun, too. Honestly, it's really less weird that a leftist would be pro-gun than that a group that's supposedly so pro-2nd amendment would be so uniformly opposed to legalizing weed and just randomly happen to fall in lockstep with all these right wing causes du jour.


 No.2712566

>>2712557

>constantly engage in shoutdowns against the grieving families of gun violence victims

tbh there's nothing worse than the "ban thing I was recently affected by" brigade


 No.2712569

>>2712557

Also this all ties into the whole end of history narrative that liberals love. We don't need to be armed we already achieved a nearly perfect society, all we need is a few more female CEOs and drone pilots.


 No.2712571

>>2712566

Answering them with "how dare you politicize this tragedy which just happened to you!!!" doesn't work and is retarded. The NRA plays victim every time so they basically end up trying to out-sob dead kids. When it happens this often, there's no way it's not going to be political, and guns are part of the problem to the extent that the NRA essentially functions as a gun lobby where their solution to everything is "more guns." Which is definitely a harmful position - the sheer saturation of guns is a problem, and so is the totally false sense of security that's sold to vulnerable people. The NRA's presence and the absence of reasonable leftist pro-gun suggestions makes it incredibly difficult to address the nuance here. Think of the NRA as being to policy and public 'consumption' of guns (and bullets!) as the big pharma companies were to health policy and opiate prescriptions in the '90s. It's not that opiates can't be medically useful, or that gun rights aren't necessary - it's that lies about both of them and bad public policy are being sold to the public to maximize profits.


 No.2712575

>>2712571

For me it just draws parallel to ecstasy deaths from water poisoning.

>1) Start a war on drugs

>2) Spread spooky propaganda about dehydration

>3) People die because of your scaremongering

>4) Parents, unable to realise their spreading of spooky propaganda has directly contributed to their child's death, demands dealers are hung, drawn and quartered


 No.2712580

>>2712575

Why are the best drugs always the most illegal?


 No.2712595

>>2712520

Nazis and race realists are less than one percent of the population, and there mostly poor hillbillies. The real fascism people should be worried about in the expansion of the police state, voter suppression, and the slow merger of the DNC and RNC into making America a one-party state. American fascism will clame to be “free and democratic.” It’ll appear centrist. It’s probley to late sadly to avoid this fascism though. >Every week now these retards really do test my pro-gun stance.

People should have the right to own weapons. Right wingers aren’t people. There is no Contradiction.


 No.2712599

>>2712595

All the extremist shit you see in the USA nowadays, with Far-Right and Far-Left is allowed on purpose. America is gonna become a Military Dictatorship with Mattis as the head, and all the sites are gonna be shut down because they all worship Putin, Assad, and North Korea. You know, Enemies of America.


 No.2712606

>>2712599

And they will blame it all on them, then comes War.


 No.2712617

>>2712599

I should point out that Dems would fucking love it if Mattis would become leader. He is viewed upon by Liberals as the only one sane in the Trump Admin.

And real talk, most people aren't into Actual Politics. They think Nazis and Commies are just a bunch of crazies. And the Military is gonna be viewed upon as the only sane force with the way Congress, White House, and Supreme Court is turning out. I should put out that it is being pushed by the media like Vox that the Dems and GOP are become more and more extreme. There used to be a Centrist GOP and Dem voters. Now GOP is Hard Conservative and Dems are Hard Liberal.

Would anyone honestly bat an eye if /pol/ and /leftypol/ were rounded up and sent to Re-education camps and turned into Flag Loving Americans?


 No.2712649

>>2712520

>my pro-gun stance

The only thing I can think is that US society has become so shitty that it creates the conditions for mass-shooters, incels, alt-right weirdos, etc. Suicides and depression have also gone up in the past decade. I don’t know if I’d call it “alienation” but there’s a deeper problem than just guns, though thorough background checks could at least nip some of this in the bud


 No.2712705

File: 72949111cbfd569⋯.png (76.04 KB, 1812x829, 1812:829, americanpsyche.PNG)

File: 3a35cf0f048145c⋯.jpg (51.78 KB, 844x762, 422:381, averageamerican.jpg)


 No.2712714

File: 41116109f14281e⋯.jpg (59.81 KB, 952x808, 119:101, okabe depressed.jpg)

>>2712705

Those posts are definitely right on the money. Americans are closer to drones than real humans at this point


 No.2712717

File: 044b950d17e2aa7⋯.jpg (247.22 KB, 700x1059, 700:1059, Berardi_Heroes-84f10ecf126….jpg)

>>2712705

>>2712649

Was he right about everything?


 No.2712720

>>2712520

>lmao scenes if Trump gets 2 supreme court picks in one term

He already got 2 (Gorsuch, Kavanaugh). You mean 3 right? He'll basically reshape American policy for 30 years. Trump reshaping American policy for 30 years. Donald John Trump fundamentally shaping American policy for 30 years. Pray U.S. foreign policy and neoconservative state propaganda machine doesn't turn on you in 10 years. These SCOTUS shitlords are basically little Princes.


 No.2712723

>>2712720

We can't let these douchenozzles get away with it. I am shaking. How could this happen? It was supposed to be the Blue Wave.


 No.2712741

>>2712720

>>2712723

Hey /pol/, put me in the screencap.

Anyway, hot take, the best possible thing that could happen is if all the justices were to coincidentally die around the same time for a COMPLETELY UNDETERMINED reason. It would most likely be the straw that breaks the camels back and force the government into either a deadlock, a free-for-all brawl for seats, or, with luck, full destabilization.


 No.2712745

>>2712720

real talk: if you have a strong presidency and the backing of congress, you can just bowl over the old farts, they only matter at the margins


 No.2712749

File: 57b0207b97cd140⋯.jpeg (201.27 KB, 750x503, 750:503, BBD61A25-B533-4A03-B820-A….jpeg)

>>2712649

the shooter was a veteran


 No.2712756

>>2712749

explains the high hits/bullet ratio


 No.2712757

>>2712723

0/10, terrible attempt /pol/


 No.2712762

>>2712757

Merely mocking the other poster you halfwit.


 No.2712769

So Ginsburg may die soon

So trump could be able to put another retard on the SCOTUS before 2020


 No.2712772

>>2712769

The SC should be burned down. The more repugnant it is to everyone, the sooner that day will come.


 No.2712780

>>2712741

>implying that first post you replied to was wrong


 No.2712781

File: b45003081059aa8⋯.jpg (78.25 KB, 722x349, 722:349, b45003081059aa881478789c9f….jpg)

>>2712649

it's literally the health care. believe me if proles outside the suburban bubble could afford to take care of mental illness in this country they would, but they can't.

honestly I think this is the last straw for me. the lack of health coverage in this country is the American equivalent of lead poisoning in Rome. I've really tried to hang on and act like I care about this place, but people here are too dumb to even take care of themselves. the shootings (and all the other symptoms of capitalism) are only going to get worse, and there's literally nothing anyone ITT can do about it. I would have a bit more faith if the people surrounding me every day weren't so suicidal and dumb, but I don't see anything good coming from this country as long as neocon + neoliberalism remains the prevailing ideology.


 No.2712785

>>2712781

>anti-ideology goggles

>not ideology goggles

wdhmbt


 No.2712788

>>2712781

>neocon + neoliberalism

Also neocons are typically neoliberals, it doesn't mean modern conservatism + liberalism.


 No.2712795

>>2712788

they refer to two different things though. neocon is a foreign policy while neoliberal is domestic


 No.2712800

>>2712781

I hate the government here more than I will ever hate the people. Sure, there are a lot of shitty reactionaries but for a lot of people this is all they know, having been raised with this false consciousness. Stuff is just going to get worse and worse here until one day people get sick of it. I'm not going to lie to myself and think that will transform into a communist revolution but it will only decay for so long.


 No.2712802

>>2712795

Yeah, I thought you meant Dems = neoliberal and GOP = neocon. I see it happen quite a bit and assumed that's how you meant it.


 No.2712803

>>2712800

by the time that happens American will already start looking like Greece. I'm an educated (brown) person with a career ahead of me, staying around all these reactionaries during economic collapse is suicide for me.

I mean, hell, at least in Nazi germany the government probably would have hired to me to make weapons or some shit. In America I would probably be shot for knowing the laws of physics.


 No.2712811

>>2712803

We can only hope it never gets that bad, though the downward trend is pretty evident either way. We can only hope that some sort of left will coalesce in response to the growing reaction that isn't a complete stooge of the government from the get-go. I need to start looking around at what to do IRL


 No.2712812

File: c517ca565348471⋯.jpg (100.88 KB, 780x1040, 3:4, kyle.jpg)

File: df106241b329758⋯.jpg (152.37 KB, 764x404, 191:101, troops.jpg)

>>2712649

>>2712705

>>2712749

Good posts. Yeah the culture is sick. American culture is also like life cranked up to 11. People are encouraged to do insane shit, and the media now is so swamped that it encourages more insane stuff because it's the only way of "breaking through." I'll only mention Trump here insofar that he's very good at playing the media in these contrived, WWE-style stunts like the press conference thing the other day. He has wounded pride from the election results (the worst for the Republicans since the early 1970s) so he has to show that he's in charge. People will now deliberately provoke fights to get attention and that has extended to politics, but it started in the entertainment industry where companies would rely on angry Twitter messages to promote the movie Ghostbusters or whatever.

I'd say another thing that people from other countries might not recognize (or they do, and it's Americans who don't see it), is the hyper-militaristic culture. I grew up in the same general area where Chris Kyle (the sniper dude) is from, and his hometown built this giant statue of him that made him look like a comic book character. There's also these troop-themed restaurants where they'll be a reserved table for "those who didn't come home." It's like if you turned a suburban BBQ restaurant into a FOB. A friend of mine went on opening night to see that movie, "American Sniper," and the guy next to him in the theater told him he was a big Chris Kyle fan and he bought a sniper rifle just like the one Kyle had.

Kinda rambling but I think these mass shooters are just acting out what they've been programmed to do. They see themselves as "pseudocommandos" (a term used by psychologists) where they dress in pseudo-military garb and carry out revenge attacks on the civilian population which they blame for their sense of humiliation. Easy access to guns of course contribute to that, but the root of the problem is militarism.


 No.2712821

>>2712812

Good post. All of that is also paired with stuff like "wounded warriors", and shilling in high-schools about "free college" and other ridiculous aggrandizements. I almost joined the military after I graduated high-school when I was more apolitical but was rejected (pectus excavatum). Who knows what type of broken reactionary I would have returned home to as


 No.2712833

File: 16e976d043b30f4⋯.jpg (498.56 KB, 2325x3151, 2325:3151, post_1.jpg)

File: 13ea93822e79887⋯.jpg (194.41 KB, 980x552, 245:138, post_2.jpg)

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File: 0997b4a36024f7d⋯.jpg (186.67 KB, 634x880, 317:440, post_4.jpg)

Also, I'm not an anti-gun guy. But American "gun culture" has gone through a metamorphosis birthed in the post-Vietnam anti-communist magazines like Soldier of Fortune in the 1980s and Stallone and Schwarzenegger movies, and then pumped full of performance-enhancing drugs in the 2000s with the GWOT (Global War on Terror).

Go back a half-century ago, guns were actually more common – more people owned them because the population was more rural. In the 1960s around half the population had at least one firearm in the home, now it's 30%. But the guns people owned also tended to be on the more practical side. If you owned a rifle it was likely a bolt-action hunting rifle with a scope. Being a "gun guy" has become an identity where it used to not be before. I haven't really thought that deeply about it, but I'm sure you could come up with a Marxist view about the economics at work here. I do think it's reactionary because it is building this identity around guns as the number of people who own them declines – there's an acute sense of being under threat which wasn't the case in the 1960s when a majority of people owned firearms. Trying to restore something which has been lost or is under threat is classic reaction.

Like I said, I'm not anti-gun. Not interested in a arguing about gun ownership. But I don't like reactionaries and I don't like militarism.


 No.2712840


 No.2712842

File: f03d77f6b8ad4cd⋯.png (143.74 KB, 220x313, 220:313, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2712812

>I'd say another thing that people from other countries might not recognize (or they do, and it's Americans who don't see it), is the hyper-militaristic culture

No, everyone seems to see it pretty well. Here in the UK even squaddies will mock Americans doing shit like "Thank you for your service" at every opportunity. There's also less hostility towards the military like you see from American liberals and left wingers, since everyone really just sort of expects the military to sit around as a standing army and all the salt is directed towards politicians ie Blair. Interesting that GWB has been pretty much rehabilitated in the American public's eyes recently but Blair is quite widely hated here.

>There's also these troop-themed restaurants where they'll be a reserved table for "those who didn't come home."

Top kek.

America is like Prussia, it's not a state with an army, it's an army with a state.


 No.2712843

>>2712833

>Trying to restore something which has been lost or is under threat is classic reaction.

Shit take. You could argue extended families are reactionary by the same logic. If theres a reason the gun culture in america is reactionary its for its wannabe warrior military fetishism and the vigilante fantasies(think the psychotic fucks who long for the day someone will try to mug them or break into their house so they can finally kill someone and be justified).

pro-gun republicans defining themselves in opposition to anti-gun democrats is no different than any other 'which camp of neolibs are you with' tribalism in the US.


 No.2712851

>>2712833

>But the guns people owned also tended to be on the more practical side. If you owned a rifle it was likely a bolt-action hunting rifle with a scope.

This is kind of a liberal outlook on guns, they're not supposed to be for hunting; they're for killing people.

Quite how America has gotten onto the debate over whether guns are suitable for hunting is beyond me, what with their ridiculous militaristic culture and all. I imagine it's something to do with none of the politicians wanting to point out the whole the guns are for shooting the politicians thing.


 No.2712870

>>2712843

>>2712851

Sure, those are good points. Like I said I haven't thought all that deeply about it. I'd add that ultimately the politicians in the U.S. don't really care a whole bunch about the mass shootings. They sort of just happen and are right now at a manageable level.


 No.2712874

>>2712741

Imo what actually happens - lib judges die, more arch-conservative corporatist judges who claim to be constitutional traditionalists but also like the Patriot Act get in, Trump maybe gets ousted or impeached in 1-2 years somehow over seemingly serious criminal acts but also ends up getting to move American policy permanently further to the authoritarian right and for a longer time than even Bush Jr. And then Dems (and 'moderate' Republicans) do basically nothing to reverse whatever fucked up new spyware mandate or finalized CIA takeover of social media comes out of it and basically just keep raising the fucking gun ownership age and going after the media.


 No.2712884

Would a recession even hurt Trump's popularity? Calling it now, I bet that an economic recession will actually only increase his popularity, even if he tries to bail out big banks and shit.


 No.2712886

>>2712851

Guns actually are practical for hunting - I mean, realistically it's the most practical reason for an average person to own a gun. Not a glock, sure, but a rifle? A shotgun? Yes.

I think practically, if a person isn't going to train to be ready to fight the government or an invading military, they really shouldn't want a gun designed for that sort of thing. I think it's a valid point about 'gun culture' - they're treated like adult toys where you don't really need an actual reason or motivation to own one. They're tools. It's like if a dude who never did any repairs or construction or anything like that collected power drills and chainsaws… just to like turn them on and watch the blades and bits spin. You might not necessarily think he was a complete psycho, but you might still question his fixation a little in your head.


 No.2712888

>>2712884

It would cripple his popularity among white suburbanites and labor aristocrats. That's what happened to Bush and is why Obama won in 2008.


 No.2712892

>>2712888

You are assuming Trump and Dubya's appeal aren't different though. Bush's appeal was that he was an average working class man to Republicans, while Trump is all about FUCK THE LIBERALS. Due to this, Trump effectively has a cult of personality revolving around him that entrances about 40% of the population.


 No.2712910

File: 25d4db755fd2606⋯.jpg (334.55 KB, 2405x2405, 1:1, kim-jong-un-person-of-year….jpg)

>>2712255

>People are about to do massive protests over Trump firing Jeff Sessions and potentially firing Mueller

This one gets me, the fucker is a horrible person but now they're rallying around him to "pwn le Drumpf". Give me a fucking break.


 No.2712935

>>2712886

>I think it's a valid point about 'gun culture' - they're treated like adult toys where you don't really need an actual reason or motivation to own one.

Very true. I think people mainly like guns because they're cool and fun, but because they don't feel that's a good enough reason to justify owning one, they invent these other motivations in their own mind. I'd recommend going and watching some of these militia guys – right or left – in person sometime. Not saying *join* them, but they have Facebook pages and go out shooting, it's not that hard to do. But it's eye-opening because a lot of it is just these guys strutting around acting macho and showing off for their friends. When there have been cases of civil unrest where these guys showed up in an organized fashion, they were useless.

Not to get off topic but that's what worries me a bit about these left-wing gun clubs. Communist movements when successful have been about mass. They are mass movements. But because the human "material" doesn't appear to exist right now in the West some of these guys want to take this shortcut. It's not the right way to go IMO

>Guns actually are practical for hunting - I mean, realistically it's the most practical reason for an average person to own a gun. Not a glock, sure, but a rifle? A shotgun? Yes.

Well even some sportsman and "ranch" rifles are semi-automatic and use the same caliber as the AR-15. But they look like something a hunter or rancher would have, and they're not as popular because guys want to play soldier so they want an AR-15. The more dude you are the more AR-15 you wanna own


 No.2712967

File: c394d888a45b6e0⋯.jpg (163.82 KB, 684x676, 171:169, NazbolPepe.jpg)

>Antifa group chants outside, vandalizes Fox commentator Tucker Carlson's home

https://outline.com/8SwFJ3

lol


 No.2712971

>>2712967

Imagine if Antifa actually fought capital instead of talking heads


 No.2712974

>>2712971

they would probably be declared a terrorist group and be hunted down.


 No.2712980

>>2712974

This. They would get crushed like bugs in about five minutes


 No.2712992

>>2712935

>what worries me about left wing gun clubs

Okay liberal


 No.2712995

>>2712971

Imagine if Tucker Carlson was too afraid to show his face in public.


 No.2712997

>>2712992

I didn't say I was opposed to them!


 No.2713006

>>2712886

> It's like if a dude who never did any repairs or construction or anything like that collected power drills and chainsaws…

There would be literally nothing wrong with that. Appreciating tools for their design and for them being cool when operated is perfectly OK.

I want a military gun for the same reason I own a sword, because im an obsessed otaku.

For your metaphor, whatd be autistic and weird is if the guy fetishized professions that use those tools to the point of LARP. Like the other anon responding to you said about militia guys swaggering around with their scary black baby killer assault clips then being useless when anything actually happens.


 No.2713020

>>2712974

Of course. So long as a revolutionary movement (or any movement because Antifa is quite obviously not revolutionary) as no connection to the masses it is impotent and adventurism.

>>2712995

Carlson is one reactionary ideologue among many. There is no reason to give a shit if he can show his face in public or not.


 No.2713032

>>2713020

Imagine if all reactionaries were afraid to show their faces in public.


 No.2713038

>>2713032

I mean if people want to bully the shit out of them, I'm not going to cry about it. I'll probably laugh but I'm not going to pretend it is worth our time when there are much more pressing issues for socialists to be working towards (such as actually organizing into an effective party)


 No.2713040

>>2713032

That would be most effectively brought about by an actual powerful leftist revolutionary movement, not some kids bullying reactionaries while they eat their thousand dollar steaks or whatever.


 No.2713051

>>2712886

>I think practically, if a person isn't going to train to be ready to fight the government or an invading military, they really shouldn't want a gun designed for that sort of thing.

Define "designed". At what point for you is a gun designed for self-defense, or designed for hunting, or designed for recreation?

>It's like if a dude who never did any repairs or construction or anything like that collected power drills and chainsaws… just to like turn them on and watch the blades and bits spin.

The difference is you can become proficient and skilled in shooting and different guns handle different ways. Turning on power-tool to watch is just that if not used.

>>2712935

>Well even some sportsman and "ranch" rifles are semi-automatic and use the same caliber as the AR-15. But they look like something a hunter or rancher would have, and they're not as popular because guys want to play soldier so they want an AR-15. The more dude you are the more AR-15 you wanna own

In all honesty the AR-15 isn't a bad gun to own, its relatively cheap for what it does and can function as both a self-defense weapon and a hunting gun. What annoys me though is what some people will do to their AR-15s. They'll take a perfectly good gun, and make it look some plasti-tech, tacticool monstrosity with attachments where there really doesn't need to be any.

Don't get me started on the unholy stuff people will do to their SKSs or AK/AKM-type rifles.


 No.2713054

>>2712842

>America is like Prussia, it's not a state with an army, it's an army with a state.

BARRACKS COMMUNISM WHEN


 No.2713274

>>2712935

>Well even some sportsman and "ranch" rifles are semi-automatic and use the same caliber as the AR-15. But they look like something a hunter or rancher would have, and they're not as popular because guys want to play soldier so they want an AR-15. The more dude you are the more AR-15 you wanna own

Didn't know this bit - interesting.

>>2713006

>There would be literally nothing wrong with that. Appreciating tools for their design and for them being cool when operated is perfectly OK.

It's ok, but I just don't see why it's worth money and it seems like the way power tools are sold and understood as tools differs a lot from guns. Like, I've never met anybody who had a super cool rare chainsaw in their shed that they were eager to show me, but I've seen this sort of thing with guns.

>>2713051

>Define "designed". At what point for you is a gun designed for self-defense, or designed for hunting, or designed for recreation?

For me?

I can give you some vague tomfuckery, here:

I don't think of anything with a shit-ton of bullets in it as a self-defense weapon. Basically the same for hunting, except with more need for precision or spread in the case of birds - firing off a shit ton of rounds rapidly, still not necessary. I don't really think of recreation as a worthy purpose for a gun - it seems like if you're going to go and shoot cans or something you could just do that with a hunting rifle or a handgun. You don't need a p90 or some shit to do that. I'd differentiate guns which would be useful in defense from the state (or states) from 'self-defense' guns in general - something tactically useful would be unwieldy for every day self-defense, and guns designed to fire off large amounts of bullets in relatively short periods of time are decidedly offensive weapons which would carry unnecessary risks in other situations. I'm not saying this is a bad thing - for their purpose, they're presumably good - but it seems like the absolute worst kind of gun to buy for entertainment or to have as a status symbol. And also buying guns for entertainment or to have as a status symbol is stupid and the urge to do so largely exists because people who sell guns want to sell more guns and manufacture demand just like everybody else does.

I'm not the arbiter of this shit, though.


 No.2713299

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>>2713274

>Didn't know this bit - interesting.

I'm thinking of the Mini-14 mainly. You can buy those in a lot of Walmarts next to the hunting rifles. It doesn't look fancy but it's half the price of an AR-15 and does the trick. Functionally not much different. Accuracy will be a little less at longer ranges (maybe) but it's a good everyman rifle.


 No.2713304

>>2712283

>One of the biggest factors for radicalizing me was when I went to a Confederate statue protest.

>Not only the poverty of the "permitted protest" (which itself is a massive oxymoron) and the liberals shaming everyone who left to go do some actual direct action but also the disorganized and chaotic way everyone who went to the unsanctioned protest went about demonstrating made me the ☭TANKIE☭ I am today.

Yeah it's like "radicalizing through struggle." It really opens your eyes to a lot of things especially as to how (a) how thuggish and violent these right-wing groups can be and (b) how the state operates. I went to one and didn't know what to do, so an organizer said "stand back here and watch the flanks, and if the cops start to charge then run towards the crowd as fast as you can and start yelling 'kettle'." They cops didn't end up doing that, but they had formed up at one point like they were just going to charge the crowd and start breaking bones – and this was at a peaceful protest. And that's just the beginning.


 No.2713337

>>2713304

The cops strategy for us was to keep saying "Well the space around the monument is private property so go to the sidewalk" then once we were on the sidewalk say we couldn't organize there and so on until we were literally in the street blocking traffic by accident and because we were hurriedly trying to comply with their ever shifting requests and then they used that as an excuse to say "You're blocking traffic which is a federal offense disperse now or we will kettle you" and shit

The whole thing was pretty demoralizing tbh.


 No.2713342

>>2713054

You already had it, you called it Makhnovtchina!


 No.2713347

>>2713274

>I don't really think of recreation as a worthy purpose for a gun

Guns aren't for fun and shouldn't be regulated as such. They're for fighting oppressive governments, launching revolutions, and afterwards, protecting them. You haven't explicitly stated they should be regulated I just want to be on the same page.

>>2713299

Are Chinese knockoff AR's cheaper than Minis? I remember when leftypol went on a $300 rifle binge.


 No.2713348

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>>2713337

Well it's all in the game. But yeah and I hear you about what you were saying about disorganization. I don't think "chaos" is necessarily the problem though… that might be what you want… my beef is more with the unseriousness of some of the young leftists who show up at these things. It's like a summer camp. They don't realize these fascist groups and neo-Confederate types are extremely dangerous. In 1979, the KKK opened fire at a Communist Workers Party protest and killed five people. That could easily happen again in a flash.

Personally from my limited experience I'm a fan of the "pop mob" approach when you just max out as many people as you can to turn out. I like popular opposition where you really crank up the numbers and face off with these groups directly and do it consistently. These far-right guys hate that. Some of them come up with losing strategies too like "we'll just have lots of protests and tire out the left!" I'm like, bro, you're never going to beat the left at protests. Leftists love to have protests. And it's a useful way of experimenting with protest tactics and builds experience.


 No.2713360

>>2713348

>my beef is more with the unseriousness of some of the young leftists who show up at these things. It's like a summer camp

>I'm a fan of the "pop mob" approach when you just max out as many people as you can to turn out. I like popular opposition where you really crank up the numbers

You're gonna have to pick one fam.


 No.2713362

File: 68f9de46d8962bb⋯.png (1.4 MB, 1199x684, 1199:684, KPD_2.png)

I also just watched this scene from Babylon Berlin which has a KPD rally outside a police station: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtYTSx32hOY


 No.2713365

>>2713360

Yeah I suppose you're right


 No.2713382

>>2713348

>They don't realize these fascist groups and neo-Confederate types are extremely dangerous. In 1979, the KKK opened fire at a Communist Workers Party protest and killed five people. That could easily happen again in a flash.

I doubt you will see that kind of organized violence from the rightoids anymore, at least in America. Their acts of violence are more akin to going postal than direct action. In fact, they seem to be averse to it because they want to be able to play the victim card whenever possible.

Political action in the US is mostly LARP these days. I can guarantee you that the average "radical" protestor has literally zero knowledge of far left history or theory.


 No.2713395

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>>2713382

>I doubt you will see that kind of organized violence from the rightoids anymore, at least in America.

I disagree very much. This year I saw a 15-person neo-Nazi gang in San Antonio launch an organized assault on leftists who were very unprepared. Fairly minor but real. I think there have been attempts by right-wing gangs to develop organizational direct-action structures along the lines of the Golden Dawn. Although these have only been on a small scale and one of the more dangerous ones has already gotten fucked up by the cops. Have also seen regular (non-Nazi) fash attack a D*SA meeting in Louisville with pepper spray.

>I can guarantee you that the average "radical" protestor has literally zero knowledge of far left history or theory.

Not my experience either. But I don't know what the "average" is.


 No.2713399

>>2713395

And when I saw "along the lines of" I mean Americans actually traveling to Greece to conduct training and then coming back to the U.S. to form fighting groups. Also Italy with Casa Pound and Ukrainian groups. In Greece the Golden Dawn have carried out attacks on KKE protests with baseball bats with nails driven through them. Firearms would be an escalation but I don't doubt for a second that these groups would stage shooting attacks on leftists if they thought they could get away with it (and that's entirely based on their own perception and they can easily miscalculate).

Some militia groups in the U.S. have developed organizational structures where they using teams in plain clothes and using radios to try and pick off and then attack individuals isolated from counter-protests: https://www.thedailybeast.com/those-motherfkers-are-dead-meat-far-right-militia-threatens-muslims-on-leaked-audio


 No.2713401

Last post because I forgot: There was a shooting attack on leftists in Gainesville, Florida last year. It was a neo-Nazi gang of four men in a car outside a Richard Spencer speech. They only fired one shot though and missed before driving off – but that's still attempted murder and the guy who did it is facing a possible life sentence now. Like… yes, these guys want to be the victims and doing that would pose all kinds of problems, but a lot of these guys are insane and macho.


 No.2713405

>>2713382

>In fact, they seem to be averse to it because they want to be able to play the victim card whenever possible.

This whole thing is 100% fantasy. You're sort of right about lack of organized violence - but even then, not entirely. The 'going postal' incidents from right wingers are so frequent and so terroristic (off the top of my head - Charlottesville, Knoxville, Sikh Temple wherever that was, MAGAbomb retard, Pittsburgh, Portland, however many abortion clinic/Planned Parenthood attacks have occurred) that the narrative of right-wing victimhood is rooted entirely in ignorance and an assumption of shared ignorance. Omar Mateen was ultimately a lone wolf, too, but nobody ever tried to distance him from his attachment to radical Islamic terrorism.

People straight up forget about the Army of God thing in the '90s, too. And now you have the Proud Boy types, and even before then antifa's history pre-2015in the US was a bunch of brawls with neo-Nazis (but also a bunch of retarded protests of underground concerts in places with a large amount of really anal leftists with nothing better to do), just mostly less notable than the shooting the other anon mentioned. On the level of brawls and attacks, this stuff is still happening.


 No.2713442

>>2713395

I'm talking about real violence, not fist fights between bored idiots.

>>2713405

>The 'going postal' incidents from right wingers are so frequent and so terroristic (off the top of my head - Charlottesville, Knoxville, Sikh Temple wherever that was, MAGAbomb retard, Pittsburgh, Portland, however many abortion clinic/Planned Parenthood attacks have occurred) that the narrative of right-wing victimhood is rooted entirely in ignorance and an assumption of shared ignorance.

For idealists, the line between psychosis and ideological warfare can become very thin. As hilarious as it sounds, people like Robert Bowers and the abortion crusaders genuinely believed they were advancing a cause against their political adversaries.

The rightoids that actually stop and think about what they are about to do are unlikely to be the kind obsessed with identity. Usually they are lolbert types like the "sovereign citizen" goons.


 No.2713470

>>2710589

They'd make excellent socialist wind chimes hanging from the gumtrees of my backyard


 No.2713488

>>2713347

>Guns aren't for fun and shouldn't be regulated as such. They're for fighting oppressive governments, launching revolutions, and afterwards, protecting them.

By who, obviously not the government your trying to over through because that’d defeat the point? By the Party? How could a non-state actor enforce gun control?


 No.2713490

>>2713488

What do you mean?


 No.2713538

>fbi, take care of them

>fbi, take care of them

>police, take care of them

it’s getting old, trump


 No.2713819

>>2712833

Its just an another example of the system co-opting something that could be a threat to it into something that either neutered or, in this case, supports the system. We should keep in mind that the 2nd amendment was originally created incase the government became tyrannical it could be overthrown. It's not a mistake that the far right took this leftist notion and twisted it into something to suppress the left with


 No.2713850

>>2713819

It doesn't help that most American "leftists" think leftism is liberalism but more woke, so they hardly ever challenge the Dems outright on anything and just take a more extreme stance.


 No.2713873

>>2713274

>firing off a shit ton of rounds rapidly, still not necessary.

You understand that something as simple as an sks can "fire rounds rapidly", right? Most people who die in gun related incidents/crimes don't die from rifles or "rapid-fire weapons" anyway, they're mostly killed by handguns. And even that in total is smaller in percentage compared to other homicides in total homicide rate


 No.2714025

The nigger this person is wants to be speaker is still a capitalist, but she’s also an anti-imperalist. Also fuck Suburbanites.

https://www.change.org/p/the-democratic-party-house-democrats-make-barbara-lee-speaker-of-the-house


 No.2714032

>>2713362

>Those reactionary ass comments

burgers mang the whole lot of em


 No.2714424

>>2713873

>You understand that something as simple as an sks can "fire rounds rapidly", right?

A military gun. Also, has like 3x fewer rounds than an AK, which is a factor in "firing off a shit ton of rounds rapidly."

>Most people who die in gun related incidents/crimes don't die from rifles or "rapid-fire weapons" anyway, they're mostly killed by handguns.

This is true for average gun deaths and injuries - but notable exceptions are cases like Orlando and Las Vegas. I'm saying that a SIG MCX is vastly more useful for killing a massive amount of nearby targets than it is for regular self-defense or hunting. The absolute highest single-incident death tolls by firearms here have been with these guns, and that's a lot of what people are worried about. These types of gun are practical for tactical purposes, so I'm by no means advocating to get rid of them - but in other contexts they're basically useless unless you just want to fire into a soft target.


 No.2714824

I wonder of it's possible to produce SKS copies here in the US if you're trained in Gunsmithing.


 No.2715108

>>2714824

You can create legally create unregistered guns in America (except California) but you can’t legally sell or distribute them. You can also so this for ARs and (semiautomatic) AKs.


 No.2715128

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Any other burgers feel like they are cursed with the knowledge that their country is a dystopian black hole, but met with anger or, at best, blank looks when you point it out.


 No.2715143

>>2714424

>that's a lot of what people are worried about

People having irrational knee-jerk reactions to shootings despite more people dying from other types of everyday homicide is not an argument.


 No.2715155

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>>2715128

All the time, every day


 No.2715170

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>>2715128

No. Not really.


 No.2715213

>>2715143

Overall crime is going down from what I understand, while the amount of incidents of people just going into a crowded place and firing off semi-automatics is going up. People are going to be freaked out about that, and instead of rational suggestions they're often met with "raise gun age and ban semi-autos" on one side and "it was a false flag stop the socialist NWO everybody at school or church should have a gun!!" on the other.

I mean, people die more often from car accidents, too, afaik. But no one's really proud that cars are basically rolling death machines - in the case of guns the purpose is killing stuff, that's the point. In the case of cars, consumer fixation may result in shitty products and stupid identities (IE how Ford has survived, basically), and in the case of guns the fetishized products have no practical everyday use to many of their buyers and the identities are naturally violent. This phenomenon, to be clear, isn't just scary guns existing, but I assume a side effect of a particular default kind of marketing and basic capitalism being allowed to extend to guns when the effect of this is probably negative.


 No.2715217

>>2715143

It's the other way around, people have a false impression of how prevalent crime is. Given how much influence it has on public opinion, fear of crime is a greater threat to American lives than crime itself is. The dissolution of civil liberty is on a slippery enough slope as it is without police militarization and an unwavering belief that law enforcement is infallible.


 No.2715887

lol /pol/ got what they wanted.

http://newobserveronline.com/us-midterm-exit-polls-demonstrate-the-nonwhite-alliance-against-whites/

They managed to make it so everyone who isn't European into voting against the GOP. All they need to do is look at who voted now for the R.ace War


 No.2715906

>>2715887

>anti-white coalition


 No.2715927

>>2715887

>According to the CNN Exit Poll, 54 percent of “whites” voted Republican, and 44 percent voted Democratic. This definition of “white” however follows US Federal government guidelines, which includes Jews, Arabs, North Africans and large numbers of central and South Americans who choose not to define themselves as “Latino.”

>In other words, the actual number of whites who voted Republican is likely fare higher than 54 percent, and is probably closer to two-thirds of white voters, or even more.

I don't get why they don't think this can go both ways?


 No.2715952

>>2715927

Because they're stupid. Honestly, there are all sorts of ways this argument is undermined, beyond that basic failure to even comprehend the implications of their… adjustment? If they're going to exclude Jews and white Hispanics (I've met white Brazilians who were lighter than regular Portuguese people) then it's arbitrary - really, why can't we say Albanians and Greeks and Italians and Armenians and the like aren't also non-white? You can also reverse it and start with really retardedly strict definitions of other ethnic or racial groups - like maybe Ashkenazim aren't real Jews or Syrians aren't real Arabs, etc. It's all pointless because whiteness begins and ends as a largely arbitrary social identity.


 No.2716232

Regardless of what happens once pover is achieved, for a fact, US treasury bonds interest repayments are going to outstrip all other spending. This particular scenario assumes that the Socialist States of America does not default on that odious debt and that is another matter altogether.

No, what is relevant here is how the porkie that foisted this debt is going to be kept here so that their assets can be confiscated and liquidated to buy back those bonds. First, I propose that airports be shut down and nobody is allowed out of the country. From then, a great anti-papist rampart on the south is built and an anti-liberal wall is built on the north. An intelligence agency should be formed to perform rendition of American porkies abroad to make them come back to pay the debt.

Thoughts?


 No.2716239

>>2716232

>This particular scenario assumes that the Socialist States of America does not default on that odious debt and that is another matter altogether.

That's a rather odd assumption.

Debt isn't real. It could all be wiped out and nothing would actually change in the real world.


 No.2716257

>>2716232

Are you one of the people that believe that if someone escapes the country or stores his money in a bank matters in any way?


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