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 No.2650976

The last thread died, long live the new thread.

Midterms rapidly approaching gomrades. With impeachment proceedings likely on the horizon, the next congress will surely be a historic one.

What do you all think will happen? Let's discuss the spectacle of bourgeois liberal democracy in the era of Gronald Grumph.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/senate/

https://www.electionbettingodds.com/

 No.2711898

>>2711798

The destruction of Imperialism sooner or later ends up in the host country.


 No.2711969

>all the comments supporting him

Wtf is wrong with Burgers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C-kBVggFrs


 No.2711994

>>2711818

I think this tweet is unirionically a 3d chess move meant to undermine Pelosi


 No.2712003

>>2711969

American ideology is honestly so frighteningly powerful and illusory that you can make people believe anything. There's a supposed golden age and idol for every view possible, all of which conveniently fit into "What it means to be an American" that basically every issue and conflict devolves into "this isn't who we are," "this isn't who we used to be." Cultural memory here, or rather a radical lack of memory is functionally a disease.


 No.2712005

>>2711726

Rod Rosenstein wasn’t fired, he’s just no longer overseeing Mueller. The new AG isn’t recused.


 No.2712009

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>>2712003

This

Being a burger is suffering, except I can't really complain since I'm not suffering as much as countries that America goes out of its way to make suffer.


 No.2712010

So is it Mueller time?


 No.2712020

>>2712009

I sure can. This is the first time in the life where I've worried about racist fascists. Being ambiguously brown means everybody just gets to project their brown Boogeyman of choice onto me. I'm seriously considering leaving this hell hole.


 No.2712021

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>>2712011

>/qresearch/

What the fuck is this shit. It's like the worst of 4/pol/'s and 8/pol/'s autism combined


 No.2712032

>>2712020

Nazis and race realists are less than one percent of the population, and there mostly poor hillbillies. The real fascism people should be worried about in the expansion of the police state, voter suppression, and the slow merger of the DNC and RNC into making America a one-party state. American fascism will clame to be “free and democratic.” It’ll appear centrist. It’s probley to late sadly to avoid this fascism though.


 No.2712057

>>2712032

I'd count neoconfederate/"southern pride" people as fascists. Not just people who wave the confederate flag and oppose removing confederate monuments, but the real "south will rise again" hicks that literally want to overthrow the "yankee occupation" and get revenge for the "war of northern aggression". The confederacy was literally a white nationalist ethnostate, after all. And there are a lot more of them that you might expect. I'd estimate 10% nationwide, and probably close to 25% in the south.


 No.2712101

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>>2712032

>Nazis and race realists are less than one percent of the population, and there mostly poor hillbillies

In America white idpol ("race realism" is a contemporary manifestation of this) is generally used to justify reaction. It's been that way for centuries. America isn't just racist. It is the father or all racism. As the American empire continues its death spiral we should expect them to get even more explicitly racist, especially on an institutional level. We've already seen anglos in Australia try this with that whole "It's OK to be white" motion. T


 No.2712149

>>2710770

Checked the post history. Is a false flag.


 No.2712171

>>2712149

Ty based BV.


 No.2712255

File: 9c51d1a67472246⋯.jpg (346.04 KB, 1000x563, 1000:563, george lucas.jpg)

>People are about to do massive protests over Trump firing Jeff Sessions and potentially firing Mueller

>They won't do the same to stop the war Saudi Arabia is waging against Yemen, IDF soldiers blowing away thousands of Palestinians for throwing rocks, or to end the 7 or 8 wars the USA is directly waging against countries that never did anything to us

>They won't do the same to protest tax cuts or deregulation

>They won't do the same to protest environmental catastrophe

>They wouldn't do the same to protest Obama putting whistleblowers in jail

The Resistance is a massive joke and and I hate liberals more than right wingers


 No.2712256

>>2712255

Why would they be protesting the actions of a president who's not in office anymore? Or do you just mean when Obama was? I mean, I think I remember protests against his drone killings.

Didn't even know Sessions was fired. That's great, honestly. Was Sessions really fired? Fuck Sessions.


 No.2712257

>>2712256

Imagine having such shit reading comprehension you thought I meant they should protest something obama did around 4 years ago mostly now


 No.2712271

>>2712255

>the women's march happeend when trump was inaugurated,a massive "i don't like this guy" dripping with disgusting idpol

>no mass protest when wikileaks proved that the DNC cheated bernie out of the nomination

radicalized me pretty strong. most liberals are irredeemable.


 No.2712272

>>2712257

People unironically do that all the time, though. "Why aren't they protesting Hillary/Obama/insert-ex-president-or-neoliberal-shithead-here?" And people did protest for Manning, just (probably) not as many people because not enough millionaires cared.


 No.2712283

>>2712271

One of the biggest factors for radicalizing me was when I went to a Confederate statue protest. Really it was two protests a "permitted" one and one afterwards that was a lot more intense. The first one was alright and I met some comrades there but it was mostly just liberals giving longwinded platitudes about how bad racism is and shit. It also wasn't even at the actual monument it was like down the street and literally surrounded by cops on all sides and it was balls deep in IdPol and "Muh Russia Trump is putin's bitch" nonsense. A lot of people there obviously got tired of this and we marched down to where the monument actually was and to make a long story short it nearly turned into a riot. The next day the liberals and boomers who organized the rally united with the Republicans in bashing everyone who "violently" protested (the only violence that wasn't from cops was a black bloc guy getting in a fight with some Patriot's Prayer faggot).

Not only the poverty of the "permitted protest" (which itself is a massive oxymoron) and the liberals shaming everyone who left to go do some actual direct action but also the disorganized and chaotic way everyone who went to the unsanctioned protest went about demonstrating made me the tankie I am today.


 No.2712288

>>2712255

>Implying liberals aren't right wingers


 No.2712290

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>>2712288

You know what I meant


 No.2712423

>another shooting with 11 dead

ooooOOOH SAY CAN YOU SEE


 No.2712425

>>2712423

Go on, tell us more.


 No.2712431

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>inb4 she dies

I can only imagine what uproar that will cause


 No.2712454

>>2711807

>Nazbol

This is borderline progressive by American standards, don't worry if revolution ever comes not like he's gonna be able to get out of his chair to kill [insert minority group here] anyway, just push him on economics and ignore the idpozzed stuff about muh Blacks/Mexis/LGBT/Whatever


 No.2712484

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Holy shit I can't wait for these massive moveon protests tonight for homelessness, income inequality, opioid epidemics, anti-war, workers rights, etc.

Just kidding. They're massive protests, protesting Robert Mueller and nothing else. I guarantee this will be infiltrated by CIA tonight to spread anti-communism and anti-left sentiments and sew confusion in people's minds as they equate fascism with communism since our education system sucks.

Imagine what this country could accomplish if liberals actually put the money and organizing effort into things that helped us move in a left wing direction.


 No.2712507

>>2712484

>Imagine what this country could accomplish if liberals actually put the money and organizing effort into things that helped us move in a left wing direction.

This is 100% down to you.

It's not even liberals - the active liberals wouldn't give a shit about left economics, generally, except progressives who fall for enough liberal bullshit to not be able to make much in the way of solid economic gains.

People who point to base building as a solution are right - if we don't have the money, the first thing we need is workers actively building a workers' movement. Left solidarity matters inasmuch as it boosts numbers and helps organization/funding, but if the funding's not there the priority has to be putting a popular workers' movement ahead of explicit leftism. Remember that a lot of people who despise socialism in America have no fucking clue what it even is - this can unironically be used to your benefit because if you just give them socialist or socialist-related (anti-state, pro-individual liberty, class struggle, etc.) ideas without associating it with leftism they may well like them. Same with pro-worker ideas in general (wage raises, anti-landlordism, unionism, anti-neoliberalism, anti-corporate revival) or anti-imperialist ideas.

But honestly, we also need the money - like, I say that more because I think there's a lot of leftist money that's just going into useless bullshit or sitting around. We're also probably poor as fuck… but I mean, there's still enough money to probably do a lot of big stuff if we put it into those things.


 No.2712520

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>>2712423

Jesus. Every week now these retards really do test my pro-gun stance.

>>2712431

lmao scenes if Trump gets 2 supreme court picks in one term.


 No.2712521

>>2712520

Just be more pro healthcare.


 No.2712532

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>>2712521

I do and I put special emphasis on how fucked the state of mental health care is in this country. I always wind up in arguments about this and they can't seem to comprehend it or how I can be pro-gun and anti-NRA. Also doesn't help that there's such a small presence of pro-gun "leftists" and the only other people pro-gun around are conservatives who are pissing themselves that everyone in the establishment wasn't armed to the teeth.


 No.2712538

>>2712532

It's pathetic how many anti-gun "leftists" you see. You can tell they're all liberals who are pissed off about their healthcare bills.


 No.2712557

>>2712532

>I always wind up in arguments about this and they can't seem to comprehend it or how I can be pro-gun and anti-NRA.

Just be concise.

The reason this is hard is because a lot of people are pussies who refuse to reconcile - it's simple. You don't trust the capitalist state to disarm the public and believe we need to have access to every possible right to fight it. Meanwhile, the NRA is an idiotic band of absolute reactionary fuckwits who have succeeded in getting the 2nd amendment associated intrinsically with delusional retards who think the government is socialist and constantly engage in shoutdowns against the grieving families of gun violence victims. The NRA also shills for pretty much every bullshit right wing cause under the sun, too. Honestly, it's really less weird that a leftist would be pro-gun than that a group that's supposedly so pro-2nd amendment would be so uniformly opposed to legalizing weed and just randomly happen to fall in lockstep with all these right wing causes du jour.


 No.2712566

>>2712557

>constantly engage in shoutdowns against the grieving families of gun violence victims

tbh there's nothing worse than the "ban thing I was recently affected by" brigade


 No.2712569

>>2712557

Also this all ties into the whole end of history narrative that liberals love. We don't need to be armed we already achieved a nearly perfect society, all we need is a few more female CEOs and drone pilots.


 No.2712571

>>2712566

Answering them with "how dare you politicize this tragedy which just happened to you!!!" doesn't work and is retarded. The NRA plays victim every time so they basically end up trying to out-sob dead kids. When it happens this often, there's no way it's not going to be political, and guns are part of the problem to the extent that the NRA essentially functions as a gun lobby where their solution to everything is "more guns." Which is definitely a harmful position - the sheer saturation of guns is a problem, and so is the totally false sense of security that's sold to vulnerable people. The NRA's presence and the absence of reasonable leftist pro-gun suggestions makes it incredibly difficult to address the nuance here. Think of the NRA as being to policy and public 'consumption' of guns (and bullets!) as the big pharma companies were to health policy and opiate prescriptions in the '90s. It's not that opiates can't be medically useful, or that gun rights aren't necessary - it's that lies about both of them and bad public policy are being sold to the public to maximize profits.


 No.2712575

>>2712571

For me it just draws parallel to ecstasy deaths from water poisoning.

>1) Start a war on drugs

>2) Spread spooky propaganda about dehydration

>3) People die because of your scaremongering

>4) Parents, unable to realise their spreading of spooky propaganda has directly contributed to their child's death, demands dealers are hung, drawn and quartered


 No.2712580

>>2712575

Why are the best drugs always the most illegal?


 No.2712595

>>2712520

Nazis and race realists are less than one percent of the population, and there mostly poor hillbillies. The real fascism people should be worried about in the expansion of the police state, voter suppression, and the slow merger of the DNC and RNC into making America a one-party state. American fascism will clame to be “free and democratic.” It’ll appear centrist. It’s probley to late sadly to avoid this fascism though. >Every week now these retards really do test my pro-gun stance.

People should have the right to own weapons. Right wingers aren’t people. There is no Contradiction.


 No.2712599

>>2712595

All the extremist shit you see in the USA nowadays, with Far-Right and Far-Left is allowed on purpose. America is gonna become a Military Dictatorship with Mattis as the head, and all the sites are gonna be shut down because they all worship Putin, Assad, and North Korea. You know, Enemies of America.


 No.2712606

>>2712599

And they will blame it all on them, then comes War.


 No.2712617

>>2712599

I should point out that Dems would fucking love it if Mattis would become leader. He is viewed upon by Liberals as the only one sane in the Trump Admin.

And real talk, most people aren't into Actual Politics. They think Nazis and Commies are just a bunch of crazies. And the Military is gonna be viewed upon as the only sane force with the way Congress, White House, and Supreme Court is turning out. I should put out that it is being pushed by the media like Vox that the Dems and GOP are become more and more extreme. There used to be a Centrist GOP and Dem voters. Now GOP is Hard Conservative and Dems are Hard Liberal.

Would anyone honestly bat an eye if /pol/ and /leftypol/ were rounded up and sent to Re-education camps and turned into Flag Loving Americans?


 No.2712649

>>2712520

>my pro-gun stance

The only thing I can think is that US society has become so shitty that it creates the conditions for mass-shooters, incels, alt-right weirdos, etc. Suicides and depression have also gone up in the past decade. I don’t know if I’d call it “alienation” but there’s a deeper problem than just guns, though thorough background checks could at least nip some of this in the bud


 No.2712705

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 No.2712714

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>>2712705

Those posts are definitely right on the money. Americans are closer to drones than real humans at this point


 No.2712717

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>>2712705

>>2712649

Was he right about everything?


 No.2712720

>>2712520

>lmao scenes if Trump gets 2 supreme court picks in one term

He already got 2 (Gorsuch, Kavanaugh). You mean 3 right? He'll basically reshape American policy for 30 years. Trump reshaping American policy for 30 years. Donald John Trump fundamentally shaping American policy for 30 years. Pray U.S. foreign policy and neoconservative state propaganda machine doesn't turn on you in 10 years. These SCOTUS shitlords are basically little Princes.


 No.2712723

>>2712720

We can't let these douchenozzles get away with it. I am shaking. How could this happen? It was supposed to be the Blue Wave.


 No.2712741

>>2712720

>>2712723

Hey /pol/, put me in the screencap.

Anyway, hot take, the best possible thing that could happen is if all the justices were to coincidentally die around the same time for a COMPLETELY UNDETERMINED reason. It would most likely be the straw that breaks the camels back and force the government into either a deadlock, a free-for-all brawl for seats, or, with luck, full destabilization.


 No.2712745

>>2712720

real talk: if you have a strong presidency and the backing of congress, you can just bowl over the old farts, they only matter at the margins


 No.2712749

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>>2712649

the shooter was a veteran


 No.2712756

>>2712749

explains the high hits/bullet ratio


 No.2712757

>>2712723

0/10, terrible attempt /pol/


 No.2712762

>>2712757

Merely mocking the other poster you halfwit.


 No.2712772

>>2712769

The SC should be burned down. The more repugnant it is to everyone, the sooner that day will come.


 No.2712780

>>2712741

>implying that first post you replied to was wrong


 No.2712781

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>>2712649

it's literally the health care. believe me if proles outside the suburban bubble could afford to take care of mental illness in this country they would, but they can't.

honestly I think this is the last straw for me. the lack of health coverage in this country is the American equivalent of lead poisoning in Rome. I've really tried to hang on and act like I care about this place, but people here are too dumb to even take care of themselves. the shootings (and all the other symptoms of capitalism) are only going to get worse, and there's literally nothing anyone ITT can do about it. I would have a bit more faith if the people surrounding me every day weren't so suicidal and dumb, but I don't see anything good coming from this country as long as neocon + neoliberalism remains the prevailing ideology.


 No.2712785

>>2712781

>anti-ideology goggles

>not ideology goggles

wdhmbt


 No.2712788

>>2712781

>neocon + neoliberalism

Also neocons are typically neoliberals, it doesn't mean modern conservatism + liberalism.


 No.2712795

>>2712788

they refer to two different things though. neocon is a foreign policy while neoliberal is domestic


 No.2712800

>>2712781

I hate the government here more than I will ever hate the people. Sure, there are a lot of shitty reactionaries but for a lot of people this is all they know, having been raised with this false consciousness. Stuff is just going to get worse and worse here until one day people get sick of it. I'm not going to lie to myself and think that will transform into a communist revolution but it will only decay for so long.


 No.2712802

>>2712795

Yeah, I thought you meant Dems = neoliberal and GOP = neocon. I see it happen quite a bit and assumed that's how you meant it.


 No.2712803

>>2712800

by the time that happens American will already start looking like Greece. I'm an educated (brown) person with a career ahead of me, staying around all these reactionaries during economic collapse is suicide for me.

I mean, hell, at least in Nazi germany the government probably would have hired to me to make weapons or some shit. In America I would probably be shot for knowing the laws of physics.


 No.2712811

>>2712803

We can only hope it never gets that bad, though the downward trend is pretty evident either way. We can only hope that some sort of left will coalesce in response to the growing reaction that isn't a complete stooge of the government from the get-go. I need to start looking around at what to do IRL


 No.2712812

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>>2712649

>>2712705

>>2712749

Good posts. Yeah the culture is sick. American culture is also like life cranked up to 11. People are encouraged to do insane shit, and the media now is so swamped that it encourages more insane stuff because it's the only way of "breaking through." I'll only mention Trump here insofar that he's very good at playing the media in these contrived, WWE-style stunts like the press conference thing the other day. He has wounded pride from the election results (the worst for the Republicans since the early 1970s) so he has to show that he's in charge. People will now deliberately provoke fights to get attention and that has extended to politics, but it started in the entertainment industry where companies would rely on angry Twitter messages to promote the movie Ghostbusters or whatever.

I'd say another thing that people from other countries might not recognize (or they do, and it's Americans who don't see it), is the hyper-militaristic culture. I grew up in the same general area where Chris Kyle (the sniper dude) is from, and his hometown built this giant statue of him that made him look like a comic book character. There's also these troop-themed restaurants where they'll be a reserved table for "those who didn't come home." It's like if you turned a suburban BBQ restaurant into a FOB. A friend of mine went on opening night to see that movie, "American Sniper," and the guy next to him in the theater told him he was a big Chris Kyle fan and he bought a sniper rifle just like the one Kyle had.

Kinda rambling but I think these mass shooters are just acting out what they've been programmed to do. They see themselves as "pseudocommandos" (a term used by psychologists) where they dress in pseudo-military garb and carry out revenge attacks on the civilian population which they blame for their sense of humiliation. Easy access to guns of course contribute to that, but the root of the problem is militarism.


 No.2712821

>>2712812

Good post. All of that is also paired with stuff like "wounded warriors", and shilling in high-schools about "free college" and other ridiculous aggrandizements. I almost joined the military after I graduated high-school when I was more apolitical but was rejected (pectus excavatum). Who knows what type of broken reactionary I would have returned home to as


 No.2712833

File: 16e976d043b30f4⋯.jpg (498.56 KB, 2325x3151, 2325:3151, post_1.jpg)

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Also, I'm not an anti-gun guy. But American "gun culture" has gone through a metamorphosis birthed in the post-Vietnam anti-communist magazines like Soldier of Fortune in the 1980s and Stallone and Schwarzenegger movies, and then pumped full of performance-enhancing drugs in the 2000s with the GWOT (Global War on Terror).

Go back a half-century ago, guns were actually more common – more people owned them because the population was more rural. In the 1960s around half the population had at least one firearm in the home, now it's 30%. But the guns people owned also tended to be on the more practical side. If you owned a rifle it was likely a bolt-action hunting rifle with a scope. Being a "gun guy" has become an identity where it used to not be before. I haven't really thought that deeply about it, but I'm sure you could come up with a Marxist view about the economics at work here. I do think it's reactionary because it is building this identity around guns as the number of people who own them declines – there's an acute sense of being under threat which wasn't the case in the 1960s when a majority of people owned firearms. Trying to restore something which has been lost or is under threat is classic reaction.

Like I said, I'm not anti-gun. Not interested in a arguing about gun ownership. But I don't like reactionaries and I don't like militarism.


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 No.2712842

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>>2712812

>I'd say another thing that people from other countries might not recognize (or they do, and it's Americans who don't see it), is the hyper-militaristic culture

No, everyone seems to see it pretty well. Here in the UK even squaddies will mock Americans doing shit like "Thank you for your service" at every opportunity. There's also less hostility towards the military like you see from American liberals and left wingers, since everyone really just sort of expects the military to sit around as a standing army and all the salt is directed towards politicians ie Blair. Interesting that GWB has been pretty much rehabilitated in the American public's eyes recently but Blair is quite widely hated here.

>There's also these troop-themed restaurants where they'll be a reserved table for "those who didn't come home."

Top kek.

America is like Prussia, it's not a state with an army, it's an army with a state.


 No.2712843

>>2712833

>Trying to restore something which has been lost or is under threat is classic reaction.

Shit take. You could argue extended families are reactionary by the same logic. If theres a reason the gun culture in america is reactionary its for its wannabe warrior military fetishism and the vigilante fantasies(think the psychotic fucks who long for the day someone will try to mug them or break into their house so they can finally kill someone and be justified).

pro-gun republicans defining themselves in opposition to anti-gun democrats is no different than any other 'which camp of neolibs are you with' tribalism in the US.


 No.2712851

>>2712833

>But the guns people owned also tended to be on the more practical side. If you owned a rifle it was likely a bolt-action hunting rifle with a scope.

This is kind of a liberal outlook on guns, they're not supposed to be for hunting; they're for killing people.

Quite how America has gotten onto the debate over whether guns are suitable for hunting is beyond me, what with their ridiculous militaristic culture and all. I imagine it's something to do with none of the politicians wanting to point out the whole the guns are for shooting the politicians thing.


 No.2712870

>>2712843

>>2712851

Sure, those are good points. Like I said I haven't thought all that deeply about it. I'd add that ultimately the politicians in the U.S. don't really care a whole bunch about the mass shootings. They sort of just happen and are right now at a manageable level.


 No.2712874

>>2712741

Imo what actually happens - lib judges die, more arch-conservative corporatist judges who claim to be constitutional traditionalists but also like the Patriot Act get in, Trump maybe gets ousted or impeached in 1-2 years somehow over seemingly serious criminal acts but also ends up getting to move American policy permanently further to the authoritarian right and for a longer time than even Bush Jr. And then Dems (and 'moderate' Republicans) do basically nothing to reverse whatever fucked up new spyware mandate or finalized CIA takeover of social media comes out of it and basically just keep raising the fucking gun ownership age and going after the media.


 No.2712884

Would a recession even hurt Trump's popularity? Calling it now, I bet that an economic recession will actually only increase his popularity, even if he tries to bail out big banks and shit.


 No.2712886

>>2712851

Guns actually are practical for hunting - I mean, realistically it's the most practical reason for an average person to own a gun. Not a glock, sure, but a rifle? A shotgun? Yes.

I think practically, if a person isn't going to train to be ready to fight the government or an invading military, they really shouldn't want a gun designed for that sort of thing. I think it's a valid point about 'gun culture' - they're treated like adult toys where you don't really need an actual reason or motivation to own one. They're tools. It's like if a dude who never did any repairs or construction or anything like that collected power drills and chainsaws… just to like turn them on and watch the blades and bits spin. You might not necessarily think he was a complete psycho, but you might still question his fixation a little in your head.


 No.2712888

>>2712884

It would cripple his popularity among white suburbanites and labor aristocrats. That's what happened to Bush and is why Obama won in 2008.


 No.2712892

>>2712888

You are assuming Trump and Dubya's appeal aren't different though. Bush's appeal was that he was an average working class man to Republicans, while Trump is all about FUCK THE LIBERALS. Due to this, Trump effectively has a cult of personality revolving around him that entrances about 40% of the population.


 No.2712910

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>>2712255

>People are about to do massive protests over Trump firing Jeff Sessions and potentially firing Mueller

This one gets me, the fucker is a horrible person but now they're rallying around him to "pwn le Drumpf". Give me a fucking break.


 No.2712935

>>2712886

>I think it's a valid point about 'gun culture' - they're treated like adult toys where you don't really need an actual reason or motivation to own one.

Very true. I think people mainly like guns because they're cool and fun, but because they don't feel that's a good enough reason to justify owning one, they invent these other motivations in their own mind. I'd recommend going and watching some of these militia guys – right or left – in person sometime. Not saying *join* them, but they have Facebook pages and go out shooting, it's not that hard to do. But it's eye-opening because a lot of it is just these guys strutting around acting macho and showing off for their friends. When there have been cases of civil unrest where these guys showed up in an organized fashion, they were useless.

Not to get off topic but that's what worries me a bit about these left-wing gun clubs. Communist movements when successful have been about mass. They are mass movements. But because the human "material" doesn't appear to exist right now in the West some of these guys want to take this shortcut. It's not the right way to go IMO

>Guns actually are practical for hunting - I mean, realistically it's the most practical reason for an average person to own a gun. Not a glock, sure, but a rifle? A shotgun? Yes.

Well even some sportsman and "ranch" rifles are semi-automatic and use the same caliber as the AR-15. But they look like something a hunter or rancher would have, and they're not as popular because guys want to play soldier so they want an AR-15. The more dude you are the more AR-15 you wanna own


 No.2712967

File: c394d888a45b6e0⋯.jpg (163.82 KB, 684x676, 171:169, NazbolPepe.jpg)

>Antifa group chants outside, vandalizes Fox commentator Tucker Carlson's home

https://outline.com/8SwFJ3

lol


 No.2712971

>>2712967

Imagine if Antifa actually fought capital instead of talking heads


 No.2712974

>>2712971

they would probably be declared a terrorist group and be hunted down.


 No.2712980

>>2712974

This. They would get crushed like bugs in about five minutes


 No.2712992

>>2712935

>what worries me about left wing gun clubs

Okay liberal


 No.2712995

>>2712971

Imagine if Tucker Carlson was too afraid to show his face in public.


 No.2712997

>>2712992

I didn't say I was opposed to them!


 No.2713006

>>2712886

> It's like if a dude who never did any repairs or construction or anything like that collected power drills and chainsaws…

There would be literally nothing wrong with that. Appreciating tools for their design and for them being cool when operated is perfectly OK.

I want a military gun for the same reason I own a sword, because im an obsessed otaku.

For your metaphor, whatd be autistic and weird is if the guy fetishized professions that use those tools to the point of LARP. Like the other anon responding to you said about militia guys swaggering around with their scary black baby killer assault clips then being useless when anything actually happens.


 No.2713020

>>2712974

Of course. So long as a revolutionary movement (or any movement because Antifa is quite obviously not revolutionary) as no connection to the masses it is impotent and adventurism.

>>2712995

Carlson is one reactionary ideologue among many. There is no reason to give a shit if he can show his face in public or not.


 No.2713032

>>2713020

Imagine if all reactionaries were afraid to show their faces in public.


 No.2713038

>>2713032

I mean if people want to bully the shit out of them, I'm not going to cry about it. I'll probably laugh but I'm not going to pretend it is worth our time when there are much more pressing issues for socialists to be working towards (such as actually organizing into an effective party)


 No.2713040

>>2713032

That would be most effectively brought about by an actual powerful leftist revolutionary movement, not some kids bullying reactionaries while they eat their thousand dollar steaks or whatever.


 No.2713051

>>2712886

>I think practically, if a person isn't going to train to be ready to fight the government or an invading military, they really shouldn't want a gun designed for that sort of thing.

Define "designed". At what point for you is a gun designed for self-defense, or designed for hunting, or designed for recreation?

>It's like if a dude who never did any repairs or construction or anything like that collected power drills and chainsaws… just to like turn them on and watch the blades and bits spin.

The difference is you can become proficient and skilled in shooting and different guns handle different ways. Turning on power-tool to watch is just that if not used.

>>2712935

>Well even some sportsman and "ranch" rifles are semi-automatic and use the same caliber as the AR-15. But they look like something a hunter or rancher would have, and they're not as popular because guys want to play soldier so they want an AR-15. The more dude you are the more AR-15 you wanna own

In all honesty the AR-15 isn't a bad gun to own, its relatively cheap for what it does and can function as both a self-defense weapon and a hunting gun. What annoys me though is what some people will do to their AR-15s. They'll take a perfectly good gun, and make it look some plasti-tech, tacticool monstrosity with attachments where there really doesn't need to be any.

Don't get me started on the unholy stuff people will do to their SKSs or AK/AKM-type rifles.


 No.2713054

>>2712842

>America is like Prussia, it's not a state with an army, it's an army with a state.

BARRACKS COMMUNISM WHEN


 No.2713274

>>2712935

>Well even some sportsman and "ranch" rifles are semi-automatic and use the same caliber as the AR-15. But they look like something a hunter or rancher would have, and they're not as popular because guys want to play soldier so they want an AR-15. The more dude you are the more AR-15 you wanna own

Didn't know this bit - interesting.

>>2713006

>There would be literally nothing wrong with that. Appreciating tools for their design and for them being cool when operated is perfectly OK.

It's ok, but I just don't see why it's worth money and it seems like the way power tools are sold and understood as tools differs a lot from guns. Like, I've never met anybody who had a super cool rare chainsaw in their shed that they were eager to show me, but I've seen this sort of thing with guns.

>>2713051

>Define "designed". At what point for you is a gun designed for self-defense, or designed for hunting, or designed for recreation?

For me?

I can give you some vague tomfuckery, here:

I don't think of anything with a shit-ton of bullets in it as a self-defense weapon. Basically the same for hunting, except with more need for precision or spread in the case of birds - firing off a shit ton of rounds rapidly, still not necessary. I don't really think of recreation as a worthy purpose for a gun - it seems like if you're going to go and shoot cans or something you could just do that with a hunting rifle or a handgun. You don't need a p90 or some shit to do that. I'd differentiate guns which would be useful in defense from the state (or states) from 'self-defense' guns in general - something tactically useful would be unwieldy for every day self-defense, and guns designed to fire off large amounts of bullets in relatively short periods of time are decidedly offensive weapons which would carry unnecessary risks in other situations. I'm not saying this is a bad thing - for their purpose, they're presumably good - but it seems like the absolute worst kind of gun to buy for entertainment or to have as a status symbol. And also buying guns for entertainment or to have as a status symbol is stupid and the urge to do so largely exists because people who sell guns want to sell more guns and manufacture demand just like everybody else does.

I'm not the arbiter of this shit, though.


 No.2713299

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>>2713274

>Didn't know this bit - interesting.

I'm thinking of the Mini-14 mainly. You can buy those in a lot of Walmarts next to the hunting rifles. It doesn't look fancy but it's half the price of an AR-15 and does the trick. Functionally not much different. Accuracy will be a little less at longer ranges (maybe) but it's a good everyman rifle.


 No.2713304

>>2712283

>One of the biggest factors for radicalizing me was when I went to a Confederate statue protest.

>Not only the poverty of the "permitted protest" (which itself is a massive oxymoron) and the liberals shaming everyone who left to go do some actual direct action but also the disorganized and chaotic way everyone who went to the unsanctioned protest went about demonstrating made me the ☭TANKIE☭ I am today.

Yeah it's like "radicalizing through struggle." It really opens your eyes to a lot of things especially as to how (a) how thuggish and violent these right-wing groups can be and (b) how the state operates. I went to one and didn't know what to do, so an organizer said "stand back here and watch the flanks, and if the cops start to charge then run towards the crowd as fast as you can and start yelling 'kettle'." They cops didn't end up doing that, but they had formed up at one point like they were just going to charge the crowd and start breaking bones – and this was at a peaceful protest. And that's just the beginning.


 No.2713337

>>2713304

The cops strategy for us was to keep saying "Well the space around the monument is private property so go to the sidewalk" then once we were on the sidewalk say we couldn't organize there and so on until we were literally in the street blocking traffic by accident and because we were hurriedly trying to comply with their ever shifting requests and then they used that as an excuse to say "You're blocking traffic which is a federal offense disperse now or we will kettle you" and shit

The whole thing was pretty demoralizing tbh.


 No.2713342

>>2713054

You already had it, you called it Makhnovtchina!


 No.2713347

>>2713274

>I don't really think of recreation as a worthy purpose for a gun

Guns aren't for fun and shouldn't be regulated as such. They're for fighting oppressive governments, launching revolutions, and afterwards, protecting them. You haven't explicitly stated they should be regulated I just want to be on the same page.

>>2713299

Are Chinese knockoff AR's cheaper than Minis? I remember when leftypol went on a $300 rifle binge.


 No.2713348

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File: 21cb196134dde11⋯.jpeg (1.11 MB, 1920x1002, 320:167, chapel.jpeg)

>>2713337

Well it's all in the game. But yeah and I hear you about what you were saying about disorganization. I don't think "chaos" is necessarily the problem though… that might be what you want… my beef is more with the unseriousness of some of the young leftists who show up at these things. It's like a summer camp. They don't realize these fascist groups and neo-Confederate types are extremely dangerous. In 1979, the KKK opened fire at a Communist Workers Party protest and killed five people. That could easily happen again in a flash.

Personally from my limited experience I'm a fan of the "pop mob" approach when you just max out as many people as you can to turn out. I like popular opposition where you really crank up the numbers and face off with these groups directly and do it consistently. These far-right guys hate that. Some of them come up with losing strategies too like "we'll just have lots of protests and tire out the left!" I'm like, bro, you're never going to beat the left at protests. Leftists love to have protests. And it's a useful way of experimenting with protest tactics and builds experience.


 No.2713360

>>2713348

>my beef is more with the unseriousness of some of the young leftists who show up at these things. It's like a summer camp

>I'm a fan of the "pop mob" approach when you just max out as many people as you can to turn out. I like popular opposition where you really crank up the numbers

You're gonna have to pick one fam.


 No.2713362

File: 68f9de46d8962bb⋯.png (1.4 MB, 1199x684, 1199:684, KPD_2.png)

I also just watched this scene from Babylon Berlin which has a KPD rally outside a police station: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtYTSx32hOY


 No.2713365

>>2713360

Yeah I suppose you're right


 No.2713382

>>2713348

>They don't realize these fascist groups and neo-Confederate types are extremely dangerous. In 1979, the KKK opened fire at a Communist Workers Party protest and killed five people. That could easily happen again in a flash.

I doubt you will see that kind of organized violence from the rightoids anymore, at least in America. Their acts of violence are more akin to going postal than direct action. In fact, they seem to be averse to it because they want to be able to play the victim card whenever possible.

Political action in the US is mostly LARP these days. I can guarantee you that the average "radical" protestor has literally zero knowledge of far left history or theory.


 No.2713395

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>>2713382

>I doubt you will see that kind of organized violence from the rightoids anymore, at least in America.

I disagree very much. This year I saw a 15-person neo-Nazi gang in San Antonio launch an organized assault on leftists who were very unprepared. Fairly minor but real. I think there have been attempts by right-wing gangs to develop organizational direct-action structures along the lines of the Golden Dawn. Although these have only been on a small scale and one of the more dangerous ones has already gotten fucked up by the cops. Have also seen regular (non-Nazi) fash attack a D*SA meeting in Louisville with pepper spray.

>I can guarantee you that the average "radical" protestor has literally zero knowledge of far left history or theory.

Not my experience either. But I don't know what the "average" is.


 No.2713399

>>2713395

And when I saw "along the lines of" I mean Americans actually traveling to Greece to conduct training and then coming back to the U.S. to form fighting groups. Also Italy with Casa Pound and Ukrainian groups. In Greece the Golden Dawn have carried out attacks on KKE protests with baseball bats with nails driven through them. Firearms would be an escalation but I don't doubt for a second that these groups would stage shooting attacks on leftists if they thought they could get away with it (and that's entirely based on their own perception and they can easily miscalculate).

Some militia groups in the U.S. have developed organizational structures where they using teams in plain clothes and using radios to try and pick off and then attack individuals isolated from counter-protests: https://www.thedailybeast.com/those-motherfkers-are-dead-meat-far-right-militia-threatens-muslims-on-leaked-audio


 No.2713401

Last post because I forgot: There was a shooting attack on leftists in Gainesville, Florida last year. It was a neo-Nazi gang of four men in a car outside a Richard Spencer speech. They only fired one shot though and missed before driving off – but that's still attempted murder and the guy who did it is facing a possible life sentence now. Like… yes, these guys want to be the victims and doing that would pose all kinds of problems, but a lot of these guys are insane and macho.


 No.2713405

>>2713382

>In fact, they seem to be averse to it because they want to be able to play the victim card whenever possible.

This whole thing is 100% fantasy. You're sort of right about lack of organized violence - but even then, not entirely. The 'going postal' incidents from right wingers are so frequent and so terroristic (off the top of my head - Charlottesville, Knoxville, Sikh Temple wherever that was, MAGAbomb retard, Pittsburgh, Portland, however many abortion clinic/Planned Parenthood attacks have occurred) that the narrative of right-wing victimhood is rooted entirely in ignorance and an assumption of shared ignorance. Omar Mateen was ultimately a lone wolf, too, but nobody ever tried to distance him from his attachment to radical Islamic terrorism.

People straight up forget about the Army of God thing in the '90s, too. And now you have the Proud Boy types, and even before then antifa's history pre-2015in the US was a bunch of brawls with neo-Nazis (but also a bunch of retarded protests of underground concerts in places with a large amount of really anal leftists with nothing better to do), just mostly less notable than the shooting the other anon mentioned. On the level of brawls and attacks, this stuff is still happening.


 No.2713442

>>2713395

I'm talking about real violence, not fist fights between bored idiots.

>>2713405

>The 'going postal' incidents from right wingers are so frequent and so terroristic (off the top of my head - Charlottesville, Knoxville, Sikh Temple wherever that was, MAGAbomb retard, Pittsburgh, Portland, however many abortion clinic/Planned Parenthood attacks have occurred) that the narrative of right-wing victimhood is rooted entirely in ignorance and an assumption of shared ignorance.

For idealists, the line between psychosis and ideological warfare can become very thin. As hilarious as it sounds, people like Robert Bowers and the abortion crusaders genuinely believed they were advancing a cause against their political adversaries.

The rightoids that actually stop and think about what they are about to do are unlikely to be the kind obsessed with identity. Usually they are lolbert types like the "sovereign citizen" goons.


 No.2713470

>>2710589

They'd make excellent socialist wind chimes hanging from the gumtrees of my backyard


 No.2713490

>>2713488

What do you mean?


 No.2713538

>fbi, take care of them

>fbi, take care of them

>police, take care of them

it’s getting old, trump


 No.2713819

>>2712833

Its just an another example of the system co-opting something that could be a threat to it into something that either neutered or, in this case, supports the system. We should keep in mind that the 2nd amendment was originally created incase the government became tyrannical it could be overthrown. It's not a mistake that the far right took this leftist notion and twisted it into something to suppress the left with


 No.2713850

>>2713819

It doesn't help that most American "leftists" think leftism is liberalism but more woke, so they hardly ever challenge the Dems outright on anything and just take a more extreme stance.


 No.2713873

>>2713274

>firing off a shit ton of rounds rapidly, still not necessary.

You understand that something as simple as an sks can "fire rounds rapidly", right? Most people who die in gun related incidents/crimes don't die from rifles or "rapid-fire weapons" anyway, they're mostly killed by handguns. And even that in total is smaller in percentage compared to other homicides in total homicide rate


 No.2714032

>>2713362

>Those reactionary ass comments

burgers mang the whole lot of em


 No.2714424

>>2713873

>You understand that something as simple as an sks can "fire rounds rapidly", right?

A military gun. Also, has like 3x fewer rounds than an AK, which is a factor in "firing off a shit ton of rounds rapidly."

>Most people who die in gun related incidents/crimes don't die from rifles or "rapid-fire weapons" anyway, they're mostly killed by handguns.

This is true for average gun deaths and injuries - but notable exceptions are cases like Orlando and Las Vegas. I'm saying that a SIG MCX is vastly more useful for killing a massive amount of nearby targets than it is for regular self-defense or hunting. The absolute highest single-incident death tolls by firearms here have been with these guns, and that's a lot of what people are worried about. These types of gun are practical for tactical purposes, so I'm by no means advocating to get rid of them - but in other contexts they're basically useless unless you just want to fire into a soft target.


 No.2714824

I wonder of it's possible to produce SKS copies here in the US if you're trained in Gunsmithing.


 No.2715128

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Any other burgers feel like they are cursed with the knowledge that their country is a dystopian black hole, but met with anger or, at best, blank looks when you point it out.


 No.2715143

>>2714424

>that's a lot of what people are worried about

People having irrational knee-jerk reactions to shootings despite more people dying from other types of everyday homicide is not an argument.


 No.2715155

File: 2ad4f377725eacb⋯.png (1.34 MB, 1463x852, 1463:852, 21a8b2aa82516d0c158c68844d….png)

>>2715128

All the time, every day


 No.2715170

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>>2715128

No. Not really.


 No.2715213

>>2715143

Overall crime is going down from what I understand, while the amount of incidents of people just going into a crowded place and firing off semi-automatics is going up. People are going to be freaked out about that, and instead of rational suggestions they're often met with "raise gun age and ban semi-autos" on one side and "it was a false flag stop the socialist NWO everybody at school or church should have a gun!!" on the other.

I mean, people die more often from car accidents, too, afaik. But no one's really proud that cars are basically rolling death machines - in the case of guns the purpose is killing stuff, that's the point. In the case of cars, consumer fixation may result in shitty products and stupid identities (IE how Ford has survived, basically), and in the case of guns the fetishized products have no practical everyday use to many of their buyers and the identities are naturally violent. This phenomenon, to be clear, isn't just scary guns existing, but I assume a side effect of a particular default kind of marketing and basic capitalism being allowed to extend to guns when the effect of this is probably negative.


 No.2715217

>>2715143

It's the other way around, people have a false impression of how prevalent crime is. Given how much influence it has on public opinion, fear of crime is a greater threat to American lives than crime itself is. The dissolution of civil liberty is on a slippery enough slope as it is without police militarization and an unwavering belief that law enforcement is infallible.


 No.2715887

lol /pol/ got what they wanted.

http://newobserveronline.com/us-midterm-exit-polls-demonstrate-the-nonwhite-alliance-against-whites/

They managed to make it so everyone who isn't European into voting against the GOP. All they need to do is look at who voted now for the R.ace War


 No.2715906

>>2715887

>anti-white coalition


 No.2715927

>>2715887

>According to the CNN Exit Poll, 54 percent of “whites” voted Republican, and 44 percent voted Democratic. This definition of “white” however follows US Federal government guidelines, which includes Jews, Arabs, North Africans and large numbers of central and South Americans who choose not to define themselves as “Latino.”

>In other words, the actual number of whites who voted Republican is likely fare higher than 54 percent, and is probably closer to two-thirds of white voters, or even more.

I don't get why they don't think this can go both ways?


 No.2715952

>>2715927

Because they're stupid. Honestly, there are all sorts of ways this argument is undermined, beyond that basic failure to even comprehend the implications of their… adjustment? If they're going to exclude Jews and white Hispanics (I've met white Brazilians who were lighter than regular Portuguese people) then it's arbitrary - really, why can't we say Albanians and Greeks and Italians and Armenians and the like aren't also non-white? You can also reverse it and start with really retardedly strict definitions of other ethnic or racial groups - like maybe Ashkenazim aren't real Jews or Syrians aren't real Arabs, etc. It's all pointless because whiteness begins and ends as a largely arbitrary social identity.


 No.2716232

Regardless of what happens once pover is achieved, for a fact, US treasury bonds interest repayments are going to outstrip all other spending. This particular scenario assumes that the Socialist States of America does not default on that odious debt and that is another matter altogether.

No, what is relevant here is how the porkie that foisted this debt is going to be kept here so that their assets can be confiscated and liquidated to buy back those bonds. First, I propose that airports be shut down and nobody is allowed out of the country. From then, a great anti-papist rampart on the south is built and an anti-liberal wall is built on the north. An intelligence agency should be formed to perform rendition of American porkies abroad to make them come back to pay the debt.

Thoughts?


 No.2716239

>>2716232

>This particular scenario assumes that the Socialist States of America does not default on that odious debt and that is another matter altogether.

That's a rather odd assumption.

Debt isn't real. It could all be wiped out and nothing would actually change in the real world.


 No.2716257

>>2716232

Are you one of the people that believe that if someone escapes the country or stores his money in a bank matters in any way?


 No.2719665

File: 74f8c3ae57daf3d⋯.webm (3.48 MB, 1024x576, 16:9, Americans.webm)

File: 0df84936c4b97c0⋯.webm (4 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Secret Footage Of Russian….webm)


 No.2727289

File: 3d960cd6aefcf99⋯.jpg (405.68 KB, 1420x2130, 2:3, Dm_XRpGU0AAUL-f.jpg)

Infowars reporter Lee Ann McAdoo shamelessly resorts to begging on GoFundMe to pay for her mother's medical bills… STILL staunchly opposes socialized health insurance because… "SOCIALISM BAD!"

https://twitter.com/LeeAnnMcAdoo/status/1040286902904123392

https://www.facebook.com/LeeAnnMcAdooo/

https://www.gofundme.com/help-my-mom-cover-her-medical-bills


 No.2727301

>>2727289

>all those people suggesting quack medicine

>all those people offering "prayers"

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad


 No.2727358

>>2727301

nah, it's pretty funny


 No.2727955

File: 2056867d23dacb7⋯.jpg (31.42 KB, 550x512, 275:256, shits fucked brehs.jpg)

>>2715128

>tfw I used to make fun of brits for Orwellian surveillance state

>they keep putting up cameras in my city

>City has its' own version of CCTV which is a private company with no public oversight

We live in a very boring dystopia or as George Carlin would say "fascism with a smiley face".


 No.2727990

>>2727289

I love how these lunatics aren't even able to put aside their pride and admit defeat even on the face of a loved one dying.


 No.2727997

File: 07d9b09982b163f⋯.png (386.28 KB, 870x720, 29:24, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2727289

>McAdoo

every time


 No.2728002

>>2727289

the key and peele obamacare heart transplant skit


 No.2728003

Reading this thread start to finish was depressing. Is that a normal response?


 No.2728018

>>2728003

how so?


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 No.2735153

File: 164bc71648b1730⋯.jpg (1.62 MB, 3664x2410, 1832:1205, george-hw-bush.jpg)

finally kicked the bucket


 No.2735157

>>2735153

lol good


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 No.2735174

>>2735153

I can't wait to hear liberals cry about how good he is "UNLIKE EBIL DRUMFPH!"


 No.2735182

>>2735158

I'm always surprised ghost is still around.


 No.2735186

File: c243c460c31f752⋯.mp4 (8.94 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, John McCain Is Dead.mp4)

>>2735174

The next few weeks are going to be painful, because they're going glorify him like they did McCain.


 No.2735187

File: 2ad29569a5d8629⋯.png (365.68 KB, 720x694, 360:347, 38814103_1106233272885093_….png)

>>2735153

tfw im happy but not ecstatic like i was when mccain died


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 No.2737742

>>2737739

Judging by this years elections seems the DNC still hasnt stopped sucking corporate dick, so I doubt he’ll get anywhere.


 No.2737744

>>2737742

Unless she runs though, I can't see anyone beating Bernie. Like Harris to Booker are gonna look shit compared to him.


 No.2742367

File: bd7c29619a40dee⋯.jpg (40.33 KB, 652x489, 4:3, Tucker-Carlson-TN.jpg)

Tucker Carlson: Americans are incapable of starting a revolution because testosterone levels are so low and marijuana use is so high

>Carlson expressed skepticism regarding the prospect of a revolution in the United States, joking that “Testosterone levels are so low and marijuana use is so high” that Americans are as incapable as Trump in effecting major change. Carlson instead was hopeful about the prospect of the "slow self-segregation" of states and races polarized in contemporary America.

https://www.rt.com/usa/445801-tucker-carlson-incapable-trump


 No.2742375

>>2742367

MUH DRUGS


 No.2742410

>>2742367

MADE BY WEED IS STORED IN THE BALLS GANG


 No.2742481

>>2737739

Hope that old fuck has a heart attack like Bush.


 No.2742569

>>2742367

He says 3 weeks after getting shook to his very core by some anarchist spraying the A inside the O on his driveway


 No.2742573

>>2742481

More like a shart attack.


 No.2744651

>>2742367

>testosterone levels are so low

He should look at that pic and say that again


 No.2750189

File: a261d7d999d8cad⋯.mp4 (10.76 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Alex Jones vs. Google CEO.mp4)

Alex Jones heckles CEO of ‘evil’ Google in Senate halls on way to hearing

https://www.rt.com/usa/446208-alex-jones-google-hearing/


 No.2750212

File: e87db358f804a37⋯.mp4 (7.34 MB, 640x360, 16:9, CEO of Google laughs at Al….mp4)


 No.2750241

>>2750189

Jones isn't looking too well.


 No.2750270

File: 92fd74ac0b434f3⋯.jpg (11.93 KB, 267x200, 267:200, 1396585421263.jpg)

>>2727289

i have no word


 No.2752653

File: deb551c1d8e2448⋯.jpg (199.87 KB, 2000x1334, 1000:667, 181211-beto-o-rourke-mn-11….jpg)

Beto O'Rourke narrowly tops wide-open MoveOn 2020 presidential straw poll; Biden is runner-up

An early straw poll of members of the progressive group MoveOn.org shows a wide-open competition for liberal voters in the 2020 Democratic presidential contest, with Rep. Beto O'Rourke narrowly beating out former Vice President Joe Biden.

It's another sign of O’Rourke's surprising popularity among national Democrats and a potentially troubling indication for Sanders, whom MoveOn endorsed in the 2016 Democratic primary. That year, 78 percent of MoveOn members voted to back Sanders over Hillary Clinton

>Someone else/DK/other: 28.8 percent

>Beto O’Rourke: 15.6 percent

>Joe Biden: 14.9 percent

>Bernie Sanders: 13.1 percent

>Kamala Harris: 10 percent

>Elizabeth Warren: 6.4 percent

>Sherrod Brown: 2.9 percent

>Amy Klobuchar: 2.8 percent

>Michael Bloomberg: 2.7 percent

>Cory Booker: 2.6 percent

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/beto-o-rourke-narrowly-tops-moveon-2020-presidential-straw-poll-n946501


 No.2752657

>>2752653

I'm assuming the "other" voters were mostly Hillary holdouts seeing as it is moveon.


 No.2752667

File: 809222bec83537f⋯.jpg (97.61 KB, 1280x1066, 640:533, serveimage(10).jpg)

>>2752653

>DK

Hell fucking yes


 No.2752672

>>2752653

>Michael Bloomberg

I'm unironically voting Trump if he somehow gets the nod


 No.2752675

>>2752653

Wait I am not American and I am completely lost, why the fuck would they want to put the guy who lost to Ted fucking Cruz on the presidential campaign?


 No.2752676

Beto O'Rourke sucks real bad. The Macron of American politics.

>>2752667

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68JQtxTzjqc


 No.2752679

>>2752675

Because he talks and sounds like Obama which causes liberals to jizz their pants. That's really it. He's on the party's right wing in fact.


 No.2752683

Though in fairness to Beto and also why Democrats like him, while he lost to Ted Cruz, he nearly won – which by Texas standards is shocking since Republicans usually win by 15-20 points here in statewide races. It was like a Pyrrhic victory for the Republicans and partly because of Beto they lost a lot of downballot races, and a bunch of the extreme right-wing people lost. Pretty much all Republican judges (we elect a lot of judges in Bugerland) in urban Texas were annihilated. One D*SA judge got elected even in Houston. The GOP had to basically concede that Texas is competitive now.


 No.2752967

File: 15f3a3471bd1547⋯.jpeg (953.68 KB, 1723x2405, 1723:2405, abe-lincoln.jpeg)

Also – fun fact. Rep. Abraham Lincoln ran against Sen. Stephen Douglas in the 1858 Senate race in Illinois. Lincoln lost, but secured the Republican nomination for president in 1860.


 No.2753014


 No.2753120

>>2750212

>Pig: SHUT YOUR MOUF OR IMMA ARREST YOU

>AJ: I'm sorry thank you officer

lel


 No.2753121

>>2710586

The current US system is almost nothing like its original incarnation.


 No.2753134

>>2710586

blame Locke


 No.2753137

File: 4c78249a8d9b2df⋯.jpg (97.08 KB, 612x428, 153:107, 1539425851671.jpg)

>>2750189

>>2750212

What makes Alex Jones a sensational snake oil salesman is his ability to never stop talking. It doesn't matter if you try to reply to his bullshit or if you try to beat him in terms of loudness. As soon as you stop for a millisecond, he starts again, faster or louder or just shifting topic. Look at the way he keeps going on after the cop told him to shut the fuck up. That's an art. That's a talent. He's an amazing actor. He manages to pretend he really believes in the bullshit he spews and you'll never catch him out of character.

Btw in the first video that girl in the pink coat looks like the one going around campus with an automatic rifle, while in the second video the shady and slimy Roger Stone is visible.

What was that? The ultimate freak show?


 No.2753140

>>2750212

>>2750189

Did he stop wearing his toupee?


 No.2753146

File: d90d60c6232fa0d⋯.jpg (40.37 KB, 399x462, 19:22, 1526998424926.jpg)

>Listening to Radio

>Political commentators are talking about how Pelosi gave out positions and in one case made up a position to give to her Democrat competitors for Speaker

>This is celebrated as excellent "negotiating" and how this solidifies her role as a "negotiator"

Nothing can be salvaged, burn the whole thing down


 No.2754257

File: 806b1c7e9c67289⋯.gif (429.79 KB, 300x580, 15:29, 30c38a19ed462c19b522d75038….gif)

Indulge me for a moment as a tankboi. Given the current political events in America, with a very slight (emphasis on very) leftwards turn by military and intelligence folks (Ojeda, McGrath), how would (or could) military-intel getting commiepilled work?

We see a strange alignment of military-intel interests and anti Trump interests. Let's say that this intensifies to such a degree that military Intel starts associating the right with geopolitical threats. Then let's say CIA/FBI/NSA decide to go full Cheka/Stasi on the fash and as a result of this gets tankpilled as a result of too many shootouts with right wing militia types that require Posse Comitatus to be repealed to put down.

How enthusiastic would and should we be to see military-intel identity "security" of the United States with "socialist struggle" against fascists and reactionaries?

This is all of course in the hypothetical.

TL; DR would you have a CIA/FBI/NSA waifu if they see what is happening and get full commiepilled as a result?


 No.2754420

>>2754257

No idea tbh. But the intel world is significantly bigger and more powerful than the left obviously; they set the agenda in the way we do not. I really think people underestimate the mind-bogglingly monstrous scale and reach of it. How does the left even "orient" around something like that? That said, I think the feds will fuck up Nazi and militia groups real bad and they take them seriously in a way (incompetent and sometimes complicit) local cops do not. Antifa groups also spend a lot of time doxxing and exposing fascists, their activities, and organizational structures, and exposing fascist gangs committing crimes and blasting that out onto blogs and social media; and that stuff works its way into fed investigations because the feds are heavily monitoring the antifa channels.

Like, these groups are not directly contacting each other (at least knowingly). But I do think the antifa groups are presenting some of the info they dig up in such a way that it's like *wink wink nudge nudge* at the agents who are monitoring them. As in: "hey guys, we know you're reading this, so here's a video of [high-ranking fascist gang leader] committing a serious felony on camera!" Well, there are active fugitives from justice right now who have been exposed in this way.


 No.2754604

>>2754257

>>2754288

The last chapter of People's History of America talks about how the only way a revolution can happen in the USA is if the Police are on your side. It's why OWS failed, no one wanted the Police to see themselves even though they are a part of the 99% (Real talk, Police are just doing their job but they are class-cucked into thinking that they are doing the right thing).


 No.2754607

File: 8753ff526f21097⋯.jpg (72.74 KB, 456x810, 76:135, police america.jpg)

File: 4ee3a4d1257ecbc⋯.png (134.98 KB, 900x580, 45:29, cops retweeting richard sp….png)

>>2754604

>The last chapter of People's History of America talks about how the only way a revolution can happen in the USA is if the Police are on your side

Then there will be no revolution in the US.

>Police are just doing their job but they are class-cucked into thinking that they are doing the right thing

Imagine caring about this. These people are murdering workers in the street and defending fascists and you want me to worry about their fee-fees?


 No.2754610

>>2754604

>People's History of America

lol you'd be better off reading Siege


 No.2754614

>>2754610

The Communist Party of Germany did that actually.

>Under the leadership of Ernst Thälmann, the KPD coined the slogan "After Hitler, our turn!" – strongly believing that united front against Nazis was not needed and that the workers would change their opinion and recognize that Nazism—unlike communism—did not offer a true way out of Germany's difficulties (see also Wilhelm Hoegner and Walter Kolbenhoff.[5]


 No.2754616

File: 14b887cfe6487a7⋯.jpg (90.63 KB, 947x720, 947:720, zombie face094589045890250….jpg)

>>2754614

>repeating socdem propaganda


 No.2754636

>>2754616

They weren't wrong, if not for the Allies the USSR would've conquered all of Mainland Europe.


 No.2754650

File: fde403365689152⋯.jpg (51.31 KB, 440x500, 22:25, worst_timeline.jpg)

>>2754636

>>2754636

>if not for the Allies the USSR would've conquered all of Mainland Europe.


 No.2754672

>>2754650

Japan too. Fuck the entire Old World would've been Communist.

All because of FDR and Churchill


 No.2755111

>>2755104

why do Trumptards still care about a fucking wall more than Universal healthcare? way to kill a useful movement


 No.2755121

File: 39d77fb5c8fdce0⋯.jpg (133.62 KB, 1024x683, 1024:683, pol irl waiting for trump.jpg)

>>2755111

Because they are boomers and suburbanites who are largely insulated from the realities of life as an american worker. The key to defeating them is to actually empower the working class and working class movements which is something that even bernie never does (and before some /pol/tard jumps in, if you are a contractor or small business owner you aren't a worker you are a piece of petit bourg filth who has no right to even breathe let alone call themselves "working class.")


 No.2755152

File: 347e141bad42477⋯.gif (2.05 MB, 480x204, 40:17, pulp.gif)

I also see the wall as something of a parlor trick, with Trump as this P.T. Barnum-like character. It's a MacGuffin – a desired object that drives the plot forward in a novel or movie – that people imagine in their heads.

I've met and talked to Border Patrol agents actually (disclosure: not a cop) and while they of course are pro-wall, they are more realistic about it because walls don't actually stop people; they just slow them down. Not even by much either. What actually stops people are … people, obviously. Manpower. Specifically Border Patrol agents. Well, in fairness to Trump, he has expanded the size of the Border Patrol.

But walling off the whole border was always a fantasy. It'd be like walling off the entire Russian frontier from Finland to Crimea. Or Europe from Brest to Lithuania. People in Michigan and so on don't realize how big the SW border is. Anyways, you can put walls in populated areas and there is fencing in all of those places.


 No.2755159

File: e961acb97b903f3⋯.jpg (116.68 KB, 800x1158, 400:579, Barnum_Humbug.jpg)

P.T. Barnum would put on traveling circuses that'd advertise like "buy a ticket and come see the insane freak lady with an alligator head." People buy the ticket and wait for the show, and the lady comes out but it turns out her head isn't literally an alligator but only kind of looks like one, or she's wearing a lot of makeup that makes her look alligator-like or something. Well, it's not quite what you paid for, but it's still entertaining and a big spectacle and HOLY FUCK LOOK THERE'S COTTON CANDY OVER HERE EVERYONE!!! *waves arms frantically*


 No.2755177

>>2755121

>Trump's base are largely insulated from the realities of life as an american worker

You can say a lot of things about his base, this is definitely not one of them. What an utterly foolish statement. Whatever you think of them, those people at Trump rallies aren't the people you'll find at Manhattan social parties, they are the people who used to work car factories in Ohio.


 No.2755188

>>2755177

>Whatever you think of them, those people at Trump rallies aren't the people you'll find at Manhattan social parties, they are the people who used to work car factories in Ohio.

You aren't wrong, but the boomer labor aristocracy IS insulated from realities of life as an American worker.


 No.2755210

>>2755188

how can you be labor aristocracy if your job was offshored to chyna


 No.2755212

File: 3cc5bcbd4d826d6⋯.png (114.41 KB, 602x690, 301:345, trump income3243.png)

File: 9f895b5adcc0372⋯.png (51.86 KB, 1200x1194, 200:199, trump vote race.png)

File: 339b48b0934ce1c⋯.jpg (41.23 KB, 524x427, 524:427, trump income.jpg)

>>2755177

Trump's base (i.e. the people who actively support him and his policies) is overwhelmingly suburban, white, and old. This is a fact. He may have won some disgruntled former (lol) labor aristocrats over in PA but then again so did John fucking Kerry. It is also important to remember that the working class in America does not actually vote all that often or in large numbers (by design.) There is no candidate that represents the actual working class in America. Shit, there isn't really even a candidate that will fight for the labor aristocrats even. Fortunately America is on life support and the world is about to pull the plug. Perhaps a nice sharp jolt of material reality will wake amerifats up. At the very least it will make them irrelevant which is net win for the global left.


 No.2755213

File: d0baaada8c404b7⋯.jpg (12.55 KB, 255x206, 255:206, d0baaada8c404b74d5e164dcef….jpg)

>>2755121

Every single person in this picture has the most punchable face.


 No.2755215

>>2755210

Because they're retired now and living off of investments, savings, and social security. By the times their jobs were outsourced they were already out of the game.


 No.2755220

>>2755212

> is overwhelmingly suburban, white, and old

that's just republican party demographics though

the thing that made Trump unusual is his performance in the rust belt states. iirc there were a bunch of industrial blighted counties that went 60% for Obama in 2012 and then 65% for Trump in 2016.


 No.2755227

>>2755220

Fair point.

tbh I think he only attracted them because he was willing to say things are bad and promised to make it better. Obama did the same thing. "Hope and change" is basically just MAGA. It's no wonder they switched their votes.

But those people are still a very small part of Trump's base. The vast majority are just small business owners, retirees, managers, and other suburban psychos.


 No.2755234

File: 4ae32335a128aa1⋯.png (93.16 KB, 708x754, 354:377, Screen Shot 2018-12-15 at ….png)

>>2755227

>But those people are still a very small part of Trump's base.

i'm not so sure about that


 No.2755236

>>2755234

>under 50k

<17%

>$50k-$200k

<About 54%

Interestingly enough

>rich people tend to vote split-even

Most must be party donors tbh


 No.2755238

>>2755236

>under 50k

>36%

my bad


 No.2755265

File: a98b17ce4a5ed23⋯.png (69.75 KB, 741x641, 741:641, small business income.png)

File: afde84aad9b2b82⋯.jpg (45.84 KB, 568x480, 71:60, trump voters economic anxi….jpg)

File: 243801409368707⋯.jpg (54.59 KB, 960x539, 960:539, trump voter performance432.jpg)

File: c61a2cbdf32708d⋯.png (147.15 KB, 1190x660, 119:66, trump voter economic anxie….png)

>>2755220

>that's just republican party demographics though

Well yeah that's the point. Trump and his weird supporters LARP like they are working class but they are just doing the same tired old GOP routine.

>the thing that made Trump unusual is his performance in the rust belt states. iirc there were a bunch of industrial blighted counties that went 60% for Obama in 2012 and then 65% for Trump in 2016.

This is true. However I would hardly call them Trump's "base." They fell for idpol hard in 2016 but that's only because Hillary was total dog shit. She tied herself to Obama and his economy and that is what sunk her. Also Trump out-idpol'd her by a significant degree. Race trumps gender every time in the US. The only thing that can un-idpoz an amerifat is a leftist economics and solidarity, which is something that the democrats cannot provide.

>>2755234

>$50k-$99k/year

That's pretty much the start of manager/professional pay range.


 No.2755288

>>2755220

>his performance in the rust belt states. iirc there were a bunch of industrial blighted counties that went 60% for Obama in 2012 and then 65% for Trump in 2016.

these were ultimately very small amounts of voters overall. it's just swing state, swing county bullshit. the actual working class in the USA consistently gives a no confidence vote to all elected politicians.


 No.2755328

>>2755326

>the KPD didn’t expect the Nazis to just loot Easter Europe and implement a total war economy to deal with it.

Mein Kampf was pretty unambiguous


 No.2755337

>>2755213

Right-Wingers aren't Human and their faces show it. Varg was right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdyfIOK3ZXQ


 No.2759709

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Crenshaw

texas low key elected a pirate to congress


 No.2761527

File: a4b3dd72d02ebcf⋯.png (858.36 KB, 1000x803, 1000:803, us army.png)

Why does the U.S. army care so much about e-sports lately?

It made sense when it was shooting games, but I've been seeing their stamp on a lot of things lately.


 No.2761532

>>2761527

Winning hearts and minds among the gamers/youth I guess? Didn't they start recruiting gamers to fly their drones some years ago?

It's pretty insidious


 No.2761537

>>2761527

Not every job is a shooting job. And they probably do it there for same reason they target all sports.


 No.2761539

>>2761532

> Didn't they start recruiting gamers to fly their drones some years ago?

Damn, guess they did.

I learn something shitty about this country every day it seems.

Pretty soon we're going to reach Enders Game levels of insanity, and all killing will be done behind a computer screen.


 No.2761542

>>2761537

>hey you're a loser with no future, why not join the army kid?

<that sounds cool but what about all my waidus and vista, I bet I can't play vista in the army right?

>what if I told you you can play all the vista you want in your off time while you're stuck on base

<Wowzers Mr. Sign me up!


 No.2761578

>>2761527

E-sports are sports for zoomers. They need recruits. Wouldn't be surprised if they started paying them to play the anthem before matches.


 No.2762411

File: 0bffe9a353b2741⋯.png (104.82 KB, 633x556, 633:556, 1545353841199.png)

>Capital,

really?

>Piketty

lmao


 No.2772099

File: 8e19786f271733d⋯.mp4 (4.69 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Jacque Fresco on Donald Tr….mp4)


 No.2772105

>>2762411

>The book's central thesis is that when the rate of return on capital (r) is greater than the rate of economic growth (g) over the long term, the result is concentration of wealth, and this unequal distribution of wealth causes social and economic instability. Piketty proposes a global system of progressive wealth taxes to help reduce inequality and avoid the vast majority of wealth coming under the control of a tiny minority.

>However, at the end of 2014, Piketty released a paper where he stated that he does not consider the relationship between the rate of return on capital and the rate of economic growth as the only or primary tool for considering changes in income and wealth inequality. He also noted that r > g is not a useful tool for the discussion of rising inequality of labor income.[2]

wut?


 No.2772107

>>2762411

Tbf Capital in the 21st Century (to give it its proper title) is an interesting read purely because it describes how in the neoliberal era capital itself was distributed amongst the population and how neoliberalism did much to undo that. Piketty's solution, however, is utter dogshite. Lamo international wealth tax, his shit would be fixed far better without mass cooperativisation and shit.


 No.2772116

File: cdfbbddaecc4c92⋯.webm (8.97 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, cdfbbddaecc4c921f3b156987….webm)

>>2761527

Preparing the youths for WW3


 No.2772136

>>2762411

She could’ve dropped some redpills here but instead offers garbage books and literature


 No.2772137

>>2761527

Wanna get those recruits for them drone programs.


 No.2772146

>>2752653

>An early straw poll of members of the progressive group MoveOn.org

First to the gulag.


 No.2773633

File: 778fc62fbd12154⋯.jpg (161.2 KB, 980x551, 980:551, 5c2bbe49dda4c8b8188b4624.jpg)

Google wins lawsuit, can continue to use facial recognition tech on users without consent

A federal judge has thrown out a lawsuit that alleged Google’s nonconsensual use of facial recognition technology violated users’ privacy rights, allowing the tech giant to continue to scan and store their biometric data.

The lawsuit, filed in 2016, alleged that Google violated Illinois state law by collecting biometric data - as biologically unique to users as fingerprints - without their consent. The data was harvested from their pictures stored on Google Photos.

The plaintiffs wanted more than $5 million in damages for “hundreds of thousands” of users affected, arguing that the unauthorized scanning of their faces was a violation of the Illinois Biometric Information Privacy Act, which completely outlaws the gathering of biometric information without consent.

Google countered that the plaintiffs were not entitled to any compensation, as they had not been harmed by the data collection. On Saturday, US District Judge Edmond E. Chang sided with the tech giant, ruling that the plaintiffs had not suffered any “concrete harm,” and dismissing the suit.

As well as allowing Google to continue the practice, the ruling could have implications for other cases pending against Facebook and Snapchat. Both companies are currently being sued for violating the Illinois act.

Facial recognition can be used to identify faces in crowds from CCTV footage, track the movements of people on public transport networks, and monitor public places for wanted criminals.

https://www.rt.com/usa/447902-google-facial-recognition-lawsuit/


 No.2773657

File: 727a32089c8ca8e⋯.jpg (60.58 KB, 639x661, 639:661, 1523906030061.jpg)

American politics is the textbook modern democracy, where you get to choose between a neocon and another neocon.

An illusion of democracy and freedom to keep people in check.

Reminds me of the Matrix, the lie they put in front of your eyes to stop you from seeing the real world.


 No.2773659

File: e5d9446b13c80bf⋯.jpg (702.04 KB, 750x1117, 750:1117, IMG_0723.jpg)

day 1 of 2019 in burgerland. already people are being Americans and getting shot.


 No.2773683

>>2773681

they don't, thanks to burka bans


 No.2773699

>>2773688

That is the point of burka bans, it makes suppressing nonviolent dissenters much easier. A direct ban on public anonymity generally comes off as Orwellian to most people, so the law appeals to anti-Muslim sentiments and terrorism fears.


 No.2773724

File: c0c136e424e4d1a⋯.jpeg (186.39 KB, 1242x1094, 621:547, FF86E478-CF9B-4F53-83C4-D….jpeg)

I know this is just an opinion piece but fuck sometimes I think the Democrats are literallly worse than the Republicans but for different reasons


 No.2773727

File: af062e479700c28⋯.png (1.37 MB, 1024x683, 1024:683, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2773724

without a doubt. their levels of reactionary could easily surpass the GOP at any given moment.


 No.2773734

>>2773724

wow dems are sick of nominating former CIA employees and now just going balls to the wall, huh


 No.2773751

>>2773727

Has anything ever been co-opted harder by the American oligarchs than LGBT?


 No.2773755

>>2773724

>A Democratic nominee with decades of military and national security experience would serve as a constant reminder to the voters that this is an area of which Trump is particularly ignorant

>Nominating a military officer may also be the best way for Democrats to disarm Trump’s bullying tactics on the campaign trail.

>The best way to beat a bully is not to nominate one, but instead to choose a candidate who cannot easily be bullied. A candidate who has served as a high-ranking military officer would project strength without having to prove it. This is important, given that one of Trump’s foremost assets is that many view him as a “strong and decisive leader.” A high-ranking military officer would be in a better position than most to disarm Trump’s signature ad hominem attacks by, instead of fighting back, focusing on the pressing concerns of the voters.

This is still part of the article but I’m putting it in red for how crazy this is:

The military enjoys greater public confidence than most other institutions, including organized religion, big business, Congress, organized labor, and the presidency. The American people today disagree on almost everything, but a vast majority still has confidence in the armed forces.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/423399-democrats-should-nominate-a-military-officer-in-2020


 No.2773920

>>2711307

Thats probably the reason. The liberals want to start another fucking cold war. Execpt this time they want it to go hot MAD


 No.2774117

>>2753137

He tells half-truths that are could be real easy to fall for if you were an uninformed boomer. Google is evil, but not for the reasons he thinks.


 No.2774120

>>2754257

No, only because I feel they would try to honey pot me if I ever did something.


 No.2774122

>>2754604

The Police are pretty much class traitors by virtue of being police. Their job is to obstruct a working class takeover. I like Howard Zinn, but I think he's wrong. OWS had undercover police sabotaging the movement from the inside. They are essentially lap dogs of the ruling class at this point.


 No.2774636

>>2710707

So essentially the government has all the worst features of both parties with none of their strengths.


 No.2774638

>>2773755

They tried that shit with John Kerry in 2004 and it didn't work at all.


 No.2774640

>Romney bitching about Trump

I bet he's gonna stand in the primary.


 No.2774935

File: b33146d3aa18ed5⋯.jpg (114.75 KB, 1026x734, 513:367, jimmy-dore.jpg)

British Spy Found Inside Bernie Sanders Campaign

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8OFkgEPyRo


 No.2774953

If Warren gets the nom she will lose to Trump


 No.2775026

>>2762411

what a terrible taste this succdem has


 No.2775111

>>2774935

The eternal 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧anglo🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧


 No.2775167

>>2774935

Dore going full LaRouche now?


 No.2775168

>>2773731

Read Lasch. Faggotry was designed to be a narcissistic consumer subculture.


 No.2775180

>>2775167

Hopefully


 No.2775591

Nancy Pelosi officially elected House speaker

>Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) was officially elected the new House speaker in a majority vote by the House of Representatives on the first day of the 116th Congress.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/01/03/nancy-pelosi-elected-house-speaker-nr-vpx.cnn


 No.2775827

>>2774953

she is the worst shill piece of shit. She is only there to split the progressive vote and take all the dumb Radlibthots from the Bernie Sanders voting bloc and shill herself into a VP or cabinet position for the actual democrat nominee


 No.2775834

>>2774953

This. I would be surprised if she did well enough to get even 10% during any of the primaries. She has absolutely no charisma.


 No.2775848

>>2775595

>getting this butthurt over a run of the mill bourgeois politician


 No.2775970

Look over to 'murca. Pelosi is fucking 78 years old. Trump is 72. Bernie is 77. Schumer is almost 70. Hilldawg Hillary is 71. Mcconell is 76. Ruth G. should be so old that she probably isn't alive anymore, they just put a doll in the seat.

Imagine living in a nation where most of the top political leaders are barely living, old as fuck rich people.

AnD the young guard are/were Beto'o hardcore rightwinger, but supports gays. Obama, who killed and murdered more random middle eastern and asian people than Bush. Lmao, you people are fucked.


 No.2775974

>>2775970

Now list your country's qualities. Go!


 No.2775975

File: 1416b9374c39ba5⋯.jpg (74.68 KB, 446x768, 223:384, booker65.jpg)

>>2775970

All dem politicians older than 40 are total fucking corporate shills. They have no chance. That's why it is so sad to see Bernie waste his last years running in their primaries. He's giving them way too much legitimacy.


 No.2775979

>>2775974

One of the top 5 safest countries in the world. On of the top 10 cleanest, least pollued countries in the world. Public healthcare and education. Almost zero homeless people. A vibrant leftist scene which emerged from the 2008 crysis. Re-discovery and reemergence of Marxist theory and praxis (from Marx to Negri and everything in between, especially Kardelj).

Also Žižek.


 No.2775986

>>2775979

>2,070,050

That's not a country dude. That's a city.


 No.2775987

File: 68fae90f2536619⋯.jpg (38 KB, 717x92, 717:92, countries.jpg)

>>2775986

>>2775979

This is where you're """"country"""" falls. Right after and Columbus, Ohio and right before Cleveland, Ohio.


 No.2776165

>>2775987

And Cleveland Ohio is like "our" second most populous city lmao.


 No.2776171

>>2775970

so what? you think this are fucking immortals who live to be 150 years old? why are you acting like nothing's going to change just because this country is currently run by boomers?


 No.2776331

>>2776171

You don't get it. Most younger politicians are actually worse than Pelosi which is why AOC ended up endorsing her. Unless you can somehow eliminate an entire generation of Dem politicians there is little hope that they will even lean left in the future.


 No.2776340

>>2776331

>Unless you can somehow eliminate an entire generation of Dem politicians

Stop turning me on


 No.2776383

>>2776331

what politicians are younger than AOC and worse than her?


 No.2776387

Does anyone here have any experience with the Green Party? Their platform has a lot of stuff to support and I'm looking for a way to get into IRL politics. I was thinking of doing some work for them during the next presidential election in my state if I have time. I don't mind radlibs that much, especially since I'd just be using it as a way to get my foot in the water


 No.2776396

>>2776387

I doubt anyone here does. why the Green Party and not the Democrat Cops of America?


 No.2776398

>>2776396

I'll have to research the Democrat Cops of America a bit. I see them shit on a lot here, but besides that I don't really know anything about them. I was only thinking of the Green Party because I had been reading their material lately, liked their platform (as limited as it is ultimately) and due to the fact that they're a bit larger of a party.


 No.2776405

>>2776398

The Green Party is a joke.


 No.2776407

>>2776405

The entire US Polictical system is a fucking joke. Its basically sceptical and illusion of choice. No matter the political party here it either shills for the status quo, full of idpol, or has been compromised. The people are disenfranchised by design, add on top of the amount of lobbying money goes to this fucking muppets.

Sadly the only way things will change here is the complete collapse of society as burgers know it. Then you see any sort of hope for the empire in decay.


 No.2776412

>>2776405

Name one party in America that isn’t a joke


 No.2776413

joke: DemCops are a joke

broke: Greens are a joke

woke: Americans are a joke in their entirety


 No.2776414

>>2776387

>>2776398

>Their platform has a lot of stuff to support and I'm looking for a way to get into IRL politics.

>I was thinking of doing some work for them

if you have spare time, get involved in something more productive and long-lasting like open source ecology, open source DIY medical software, devices & robotics, etc.

you spend some time in a liberal political party canvassing or whatever, when you die that labour you've input would fade away and be inconsequential in human history.

you spend some time developing, let's say, open source DIY dental software and devices and you've contributed to partially rendering obsolete those greedy dentists and their dental preventive care industry, ie. the biennial cleaning process


 No.2776417

>>2776414

This blew my mind, I feel like I just learnt more about anarchism than listening to thousands of them ramble for hours (which I have probably done at this point).


 No.2776489

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46763940

Trump ready for US shutdown to last 'for years'

MASS, GENERAL LOCKOUT


 No.2776498

>>2776489

Go for it dude, seems like it would push the economy into a recession to not pay federal workers for a year.


 No.2776529

>>2776498

Tbh I read a good piece in the Jaсobin about how trade unions of Federal employees are contemplating flying counter picketts if the shutdown lasts much longer since some are being called in and are not getting paid. Things ahead could be pretty spicy.


 No.2776536

>>2776489

Good idea Trump, threaten to let 800,000 people go without pay for years. Surely nothing could go wrong. Do it faggot


 No.2776542

File: 06b88fd43e3997e⋯.jpg (274.9 KB, 1003x754, 1003:754, shut.jpg)


 No.2776555

I feel a perfect storm of unrest stirring if things continue down this line, not a revolution or anything far-fetched but at least major discontent, especially after the economy implodes in 2020


 No.2776558

>this wall insanity

It's gonna be a good year.


 No.2776566

Honestly this could be one of the worst shutdowns in history: Trump was unable to pass a budget with his own party, now the opposition is in control he is just fucked. He won't back-down, and the democrats know that funding the wall is political suicide so things are just gonna go downhill.

Feels like we are in the first months of 1937 in Kaiserreich ngl.


 No.2776571

>Trump orders national emergency to secure funding for wall, kicking out thousands of people from their homes in order to build it.

>His base eats it all up, and his approval rating spikes up to 50%

>Meanwhile the economy is crashing worldwide, but the US decides to lower interest rates to -10%.

>Pewdiepie comes out as a right-winger and even the zoomers want to have a nice slice of Trump's hog.

I have mixed feelings about this.


 No.2776576

>>2776566

>Feels like we are in the first months of 1937 in Kaiserreich ngl.

Redpill me on Kaiserreich


 No.2776582

>>2776576

>Redpill me on Kaiserreich

an overrated meme mod


 No.2776583

>>2776571

Zoomers won't embrace Trump if there is a recession. A lot of e celebs might jump ship too.


 No.2776590

>>2776571

Zoomers only like Trump for the memes and because it "triggers the libs". If something happened that affected them IRL as a result of Trump's doing (war, economy crashing, etc) they'd turn on him instantly


 No.2776592

>>2776590

>>2776583

I don't think so. People can always just go to 4chan or r/the_donald in order to circlejerk themselves to death. I've been to those places, and a lot of people in those communities just have no interest in going anywhere else.


 No.2776600

File: 13d31a6b4408910⋯.jpg (250.55 KB, 1092x1250, 546:625, image.jpg)

>>2776489

I've been furloughed but I get to keep employee housing. Kind of enjoying myself tbh, how much longer do you guys think the shutdown can last before my employers decide it's not worth it to keep me around?


 No.2776683

File: f1972ba48fb81a0⋯.jpg (32.29 KB, 750x375, 2:1, bernie-sanders.jpg)

File: abc7663e2456fb7⋯.jpg (38.07 KB, 600x464, 75:58, liz-cheney_dick-cheney.jpg)

Dick Cheney's daughter and Bernie Sanders get into a Twitter war over socialism

https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1081263147988774917

https://twitter.com/Liz_Cheney/status/1081286668995436544

Cenk butts in to defend Bernie with his wisdom over what he believes socialism is

https://twitter.com/cenkuygur/status/1081364911069057024


 No.2776685

>>2776683

this is awful liberal trash why did you postthis?


 No.2776689

>>2776688

Pretty MILF tbh

Would love her in chains and ballgag, parading the street as a horse.


 No.2776696

>>2776694

>separating the death totals into different graphs to obscure the disparity

nice


 No.2776697

>>2776688

She looks kinda soulless to me.


 No.2776706

>both AOC and Tlaib voted Pelosi for speaker

>Tlaib voted for the rules package with the “pay as you go” provision

Anyone who supports the Democrat Cops of America should be banned


 No.2776710

>>2776706

I meant to type Democrat Cops of America but I guess my mind was wandering. Won’t let me delete either, oh well


 No.2776716

>>2776710

it's a wordfilter


 No.2776718

>>2776716

Why is it filtered? It just makes discussion more difficult, regardless of how shitty and pseudo-socialist they are


 No.2776729

>>2776727

They're the left and right arms of business.


 No.2776731

>>2776727

we call it two "parties" but really it's just two different geographical regions fighting for control of the Federal Government.

the GOP are basically all rural voters who watch Fox News and the DNC are all city voters who watch CNN.

both of them get upset when they are thrown out of power at the other who tries to criticize the other while they're in power.

it's a dialectic that won't last and honestly with the dying DNC and the rise of the internet replacing TV I think we're gonna see a shift in party politics altogether as boomers die out, one akin to the 1960s.


 No.2776737

>>2776727

America's mainstream political parties aren't actually parties. They are more like non-profit organizations that exist to promote the interests of their donors.


 No.2776740

>>2776727

It’s mainly because of first-past-the-post voting


 No.2776742

>>2776740

I don't know about that. The UK does FPTP voting and they still have a bunch of parties.


 No.2776743

>>2776736

I'm on the border between millennial and zoomer and a lot of the people I'm graduating with seem a lot more nuanced, maybe it's just a bubble I'm living in idk but people my age who are vehemently and uncritically Democrat or Republican are usually laughed at behind closed doors.


 No.2776746

>>2776582

I think he’s asking what 1937 implies althistory wise


 No.2776747

>>2776718

>>2776718

Because the mods here are childish.


 No.2776749

>>2776742

I know that FPTP voting tends to lead towards two-party dominant systems (keyword dominant), but the key issue here is that all of the money goes to the two status-quo parties, further entrenching them. America is actually a one-party state ruled by an oligarchy but they keep up the guise of democracy through trading positions – a true tandemocracy

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/tandemocracy


 No.2776916

>>2776742

Tbf that's because the UK has unique regional identities that allow for that: Scotland has the SNP, Wales had Plaid Cymru, various rural areas still have liberals because they have been liberal-tory marginals since the 1880s.


 No.2777000

File: 0b7f9f0798deb03⋯.webm (3.09 MB, 360x360, 1:1, Afghanistan made it Russi….webm)

What the fuck is this shit?


 No.2777009

>>2777000

>Russia was right to be in Afghanistan

Fucking Based


 No.2777025

>>2777000

still hurts to listen to, what the fuck is wrong with that guy, he can't talk like a normally and always sounds like someone from a mental asylum

there has to be a medical reason behind this


 No.2777030

>>2777000

>the absolute sadness and embarrassment in Bolton's eyes

Worth it just for that, IMO


 No.2777032

>>2777030

Fug, I keep forgetting to turn off porkposting flag


 No.2777035

>>2777000

Trump is unironically the most based president the US has had. He's honest about what the US does and the history of the world. It's all the scheming, sly scum before him that are the problem.

It really speaks volumes that this whole "resistance/progressive" shit ONLY exists because of trump. Liberals don't give a SHIT about progressive values, they care about the spectacle. And trump is their evil wizard that must be vanquished.


 No.2777385

>>2777000

First he deported Vietnamese defectors and now this. Is Trump some kind of crypto-ML?


 No.2777388

>>2777025

NPD and dementia


 No.2777392

>>2777385

next he's gonna either cut the military budget, announce a jobs program, or start subsidizing co-ops. I'm calling it now.


 No.2777394

>>2777392

I can't wait for Trump derangement to evolve to the point where liberals are literally accusing him of being crypto-Stalin with American characteristics.


 No.2777397

>>2777000

Dolan is /k/ with regard to the Soviet Union.

Also the ideology of thinking the USSR was just another name for Russia


 No.2777400

>>2777394

honestly Trump turning America Succdem to compete with China in the trade war, then the DNC becoming full of anti-Trump neocons and neoliberals is the most likely course of events at this point.

2024 primaries could easily become Jimmy Dore (GOP) vs John McCain (DNC)


 No.2778702

File: acde84ef60b8a3c⋯.jpg (61.01 KB, 960x720, 4:3, mb-elon.jpg)

Michael Brooks vs. Elon Musk and his fanboys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D58URhN5ZZI


 No.2778916

>>2777000

Trump is a complete retard, but I can’t imagine Elizabeth Warren sitting across from Kim or Putin.


 No.2779034

Can Trump actually use emergency powers to build MUH WALL?


 No.2779040

>>2779034

If Jar Jar Binks grants Trump the Emergancy Powers of course. Jokes aside I am not sure but is it going to be a legit wall with brick and mortar or is it going to be a giant fence?


 No.2779046

>>2778916

>>2777392

>>2777385

I'm going to laugh so hard when Trumpism blows up in the faces of people who want America to be a good neighbor to Kim Jong or Putin.

He's literally deeply despised jester who de-legitimizes good relations with these countries. Everything Trump does is exactly the opposite direction this country if going to take as soon as the kingmakers take him off the board. People are already starting to complain about Elizabeth Warren, but considering lifelong Dem voters would put in GWB if it meant a choice AND considering that there are a shit-ton of disaffected moderates and center right types AND considering Trump is no longer a wildcard… The DNC will definitely avoid trying to sell their candidate to progressives and potential green party defectors if they are worried about turnout and infighting. It's a much safer bet to pick a candidate that Dems and Republicans can both hold their nose to. What's worse, is that after whomever the establishment savior from Trump is. They'll be preceded by someone worse, that blames the absolute shit state of the economy on all the foreign countries who Trump tried to get along with. You know how that will work so well? American's are dumb as fuck, don't learn from history, forget lessons from a few years ago and by that time won't be debating about it because no one will have a stake in their favorite football team seeming politically right. All someone will have to do is say "The economy wouldn't be this bad if it wasn't for that country. I'll restore dignity back to you." It's literally historical precedence and the likeliest scenario. It won't be the end of American hegemony. That's just LARPING. It'll be America doing some crazy shit to get revenge and restore itself.

The best thing that could happen is Trump doing the exact opposite of what you want him to do, and getting a progressive in power. That way there's some stop bleeding to the working class, a movement pushing the country farther right and the delegitimization of the opposite of what you want.

What's the most likely to happen is they put in someone who makes shit worse there in Burgerland, and everyone cheers for him doing the opposite of what you want.

I mean we're talking about Americans here. They're political idiots, and gullible as fuck.


 No.2779047

>>2779046

*a movement pushing the country farther left


 No.2779066

>>2777000

So is he gonna give parts of Afghanistan to Russia?


 No.2779159

>>2777000

I like Trump. In Germany they are bitching about him saying that he has more common with the Left Party that ruled Eastern Germany because of the Syria pullout than the Libs or Far-Right, you see people in the USA saying they lost the Cold War and trying their best to get any old Cold War propaganda going, Trump said the USSR was 100% justified in being in Afghanistan, he's deporting the Vietnamese that left and voted straight Republican when the Communists won and vomit anti-Communist stuff that's 100% debunked (it's fucking funny), he's fucking the anti-Communist Noam Chomsky with the Syria thing too, and is allowing Russia to have Nuclear Bombers and bases in Venezuela ending American control over the Americas


 No.2780714

File: f9d23319a37e563⋯.jpg (30.26 KB, 660x330, 2:1, bernie-sol.jpg)


 No.2780915

File: 868e92ce99e27d1⋯.png (384.68 KB, 335x780, 67:156, sanders16-1546900069.png)

I Was Sexually Harassed On Bernie Sanders’ Campaign. And No One Cared.

https://forward.com/opinion/417179/i-was-sexually-harassed-on-bernie-sanders-campaign-and-no-one-cared

The morning of the 2016 New York Democratic primary, a local voter named Ray came by Bernie Sanders’ South Bronx campaign headquarters where I was volunteering. He asked for a few T-shirts from the campaign.

A few minutes later, in a back corner of the office where I had gone to fetch him the T-shirts, he stepped toward me, grabbed me by the back of the neck and began stroking me up then down from the back of my head to just under my shirt collar.

I froze, dumbfounded. Two or three long seconds later, I heard my own voice spit out one word: “Stop.”

“Why?” he asked. “Because it feels good?”

He continued groping me until I pulled away, and sprinted back to my desk in the front of the office.

Ray took his time, though, leisurely ambling to the snack table to pick up, then unwrap, a lollipop. He sucked on the candy while he walked across the office toward the door. He whispered sexually explicit language in my direction as he passed me. Then he chuckled to himself until and left.

It seemed like a fairly average case of sexual harassment. But I thought campaign staff should know about it. I assumed that if it had happened to me, it was probably happening to others, and the campaign would want to know.

I was wrong.


 No.2780917

>>2780915

Typical socdem behavior.


 No.2780918

>>2780915

>they did want to know

>there was nothing they could do internally as it wasn't a campaign worker

It's an Americans are retards incapable of filing police reports episode.


 No.2780926

>>2780915

Who would sexually harass her? Uggo-tier


 No.2780940

What stream are you guys watching? I'm doing CBS to see Bernie's response

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZEWtekSP8M


 No.2780951

>we're out of space to hold them

lol


 No.2781018

>>2780918

>It's an Americans are retards incapable of filing police reports episode.

That's not true. I'm an American and I file police reports every time I open up /leftypol/


 No.2781020

File: 0b1c0632bc92809⋯.png (740.05 KB, 934x631, 934:631, TX89aUw.png)

Didn't watch the Trump thing. How was it? Did he sound like he has a wet bag of rags in his head like usual or more so than usual?


 No.2781029

File: d6e871b237657ba⋯.jpeg (34.45 KB, 480x360, 4:3, 590503DE-39D3-4E05-99BC-B….jpeg)

"That's it? That's his national address?"


 No.2781292

File: e41722d2f917a81⋯.png (304.83 KB, 522x703, 522:703, 1547015461615.png)

>56 senators vote to make boycotting Israel illegal

>/leftypol/ will STILL deny the existence of the ZOG Occupied Government


 No.2781294

File: a11042a7b5f969f⋯.mp4 (3.82 MB, 640x480, 4:3, help i cant breathe becaus….mp4)

>>2781020

you pretty much called it


 No.2782118

File: d2f1f5d1e56df48⋯.png (28.09 KB, 300x180, 5:3, please-notice-this.png)

>>2776489

>>2776529

>>2776566

>>2776600

>(at least partial shutdown)

Like, how is this not a proper opportunity for building dual power structures? Are you amerifats retarded? Half of the bureoucracy is in freeze mode, so why not take over their "jobs," like, holy shiet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNVKoX40ZAo


 No.2782124

>>2781020

Pretty much

The dementia continues to get progressively worse and it shows

The Conspiracytard / Qanon crowd is on damage control because he didn't declare Martial Law

Libs still are shitting their pants because Muh fake facts Muh russia


 No.2782126

>>2781292

>Capitalists make it illegal to critique a capitalist Apartheid state

<Dude Muh ZOG Occupied Government

Your literally a CardBoard cutout of Zionist Propaganda


 No.2782218

>>2782118

America has states that can pick up a lot of the slack. All activism should really be state based in the US.


 No.2782266

>>2782118

because federal shutdowns don't effect that many people out of the population and the important agencies either had appropriated funds or corporate backing/funds


 No.2782269

As someone who lives in SC I think the single most potentially communist group of non-communists in the US might be blacks in the south. I'm not talking about the urban black people that are so far into the pure ideology of the DNC that they're as irredeemable as hardcore neocon republicans, but the poor fucks around here that are economically exploited put still (largely) apolitical.

You can call them lumpens or dumb trailer park trash or whatever but what strikes me about them is how they have so many reasons to want to change their situation and just do not give a fuck about anticommunism and muh evil USSR. Despite living in such close proximity to white southerners who ate up the red scare like they needed it to live I don't think the word "communism" would even be that scary to 90% of them here if you tried explaining it to them. It's remarkable, like the Cold War didn't even happen at all for them.

You can argue that their apolitical nature may be a weakness in that it would be harder to get them into labor organizing than other demographics in the US. Maybe. But if there were kicked hard enough, they could be among the first to start running in the right direction.


 No.2782283

>>2782269

>You can call them lumpens or dumb trailer park trash or whatever but what strikes me about them is how they have so many reasons to want to change their situation and just do not give a fuck about anticommunism and muh evil USSR. Despite living in such close proximity to white southerners who ate up the red scare like they needed it to live I don't think the word "communism" would even be that scary to 90% of them here if you tried explaining it to them. It's remarkable, like the Cold War didn't even happen at all for them.

It's because they know not to trust whitey.

https://youtu.be/Tg6WqdakaV4?t=124


 No.2782286

>>2782126

why weren't there laws prohibiting boycotts of South Africa?


 No.2782315

>>2782286

You have it backward, it's because South Africa's example proved the efficiency of boycotts that antiboycott laws exists nowadays.


 No.2782328

>>2782126

What's that supposed to mean? How is this a rebuttal of the statement made?


 No.2783271

The real shitshow begins when tomorrow when 800,000 people don’t get paid and a portion of them are forced to be kept at work as literal state-slaves. Then Trump will declare a national emergency and further the dictatorial creep of US executive power:

>National Emergencies Act

>War Powers Act

>executive orders


 No.2783272

File: 3224cc090fc0e4f⋯.png (603.01 KB, 737x850, 737:850, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.2784118

File: 6ac4a3234d538e9⋯.jpg (77.07 KB, 1200x675, 16:9, gabbard.jpg)

She's running

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/11/politics/tulsi-gabbard-van-jones/index.html

>Rep. Tulsi Gabbard said Friday she will run for president in 2020.

>"I have decided to run and will be making a formal announcement within the next week," the Hawaii Democrat told CNN's Van Jones during an interview slated to air at 7 p.m. Saturday on CNN's "The Van Jones Show."

Looking forward to having a Peronist president in 2020: https://youtu.be/U-JGINJGxlE?t=167


 No.2784123

>>2784118

Hope she kamikazes Warren somehow during the primaries. Would be extremely funny.


 No.2784126

>>2784123

The good news – Tulsi Gabbard is one of the few American politicians safe from the devastating "Assad Curse"


 No.2784130

File: b1481b104b560c9⋯.png (111.43 KB, 200x321, 200:321, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2781292

noone on leftypol denies this


 No.2784131

>>2781292

America has been Zionist (settler colonialist) since its creation.


 No.2784136

>>2784118

Hindu fascism is legitimately a step-up from the typical neoliberal offerings of the Democratic party.


 No.2784188

>>2784118

hope she doesn't pussy out naming names when it comes to US support for al qaeda


 No.2784212

>>2784118

ah, now i get why she went on joe rogan's podcast


 No.2784232

https://twitter.com/POTUS_Schedule/status/1083897259845140480?s=03

>trump administration says maduro is illegitimate and backs the Venezuelan national assembly

happening?


 No.2784238

File: cb542476de4f145⋯.png (694.28 KB, 773x519, 773:519, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2784232

>get 67% percent of the vote

>illegitimate

I'm sure the CIA is planning to send another drone right now


 No.2784242

>>2784238

But the election wasn't independently monitored!

(pay no attention to the fact that America doesn't independently monitor its elections either)


 No.2784252

File: 7fa5fe9af81f32f⋯.jpg (20.37 KB, 268x299, 268:299, hMVYgpxZkCgZNzJ-800x450-no….jpg)

Tulsi Gabbard's 2020 Announcement Threatens The New Left Foreign Policy Of Sanders And Warren

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tulsi-gabbard-2020-presidential-run-foreign-policy_us_5c393bb2e4b01c93e00a0009

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) told CNN on Friday that she definitely will seek the 2020 Democratic nomination for president, ending months of speculation.

Progressives are already welcoming the news: “Let them make their case and we’ll find out who has the most compelling narrative,” commentator Cenk Uygur said of Gabbard’s taking on left favorites Sanders and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), whose 2020 plans are already in motion.

But the mythos linking the congresswoman to the party’s rising left wing collapses over the critical question of how to handle the world beyond America’s shores. Like Sanders and Warren, Gabbard is acutely attuned to the left’s frustration with endless wars. What she’s offering, however, is a fatalist view starkly different from the optimistic global vision of progress they’ve been pushing into the national conversation.

Yet on foreign policy, she’s gone rogue, tying the anti-intervention rhetoric adopted by nearly every Democrat (and Republicans like President Donald Trump) to embracing global leaders who flout international human rights standards and complain of persecution by American empire.

Gabbard’s language is that of the old left, holding up the U.S. government as obsessed with unwisely projecting its influence, often for the sake of monied interests ― and, she asserts, in secretive risky ways ― while neglecting its own people at home. It’s a mode that echoes the kind of anti-elite talk that Trump built his campaign around while he lied about his past position on the invasion of Iraq.

“The fight is going on on the left of the party, and you have the two better-established candidates from the left of the party trying to define a new kind of internationalism,” said Heather Hurlburt of the New America think tank.

“Gabbard’s views are more a left hard-realist direction,” she added, referring to a school of national security thought that suggests it’s a waste of time for the U.S. and others to try to prioritize principles like inalienable human rights in global affairs.


 No.2784258

File: 48fdff7f54d97db⋯.png (200.04 KB, 555x555, 1:1, NROL-39NothingIsBeyondOurR….png)

Burger leftists, you better be trying to organize the masses. After America loses her title as the heart of global capitalism to China (which is capitalist) you’ll only have a few years, a decade at most to do revolution be fore your country falls to fascism. So you better fucking succeeded. A fascist power with a large nuclear arsenal won’t be good. So do whatever it takes for revolution to succeed, organize people who would normally disgust you (like nationalist vets or MAGAcucks) You have to organize everyone because their is no second chance. When talking to people always start with by explaining how their boss steals from them, this is the easiest way to convince people that capitalism sucks.


 No.2784270

>>2784258

>be fore your country falls to fascism

If fascism was the looming threat in the US, that'd be good news. American society is so extremely resilient to change that not even capitalism's defense mechanism has much potential influence.

The real issue is the neoliberal reality bubble, which is rapidly becoming impenetrable due to surveillance state policies.


 No.2784272

>>2784270

>>2784258

the usa's already fascist


 No.2784274

>>2782269

Are you familiat with the book Hammer & Hoe? If not check it out ASAP


 No.2784275

>>2784270

>The real issue is the neoliberal reality bubble, which is rapidly becoming impenetrable due to surveillance state policies.

The neoliberal bubble will collapse once America stops being the heart of capitalism.

>>2784272

fascist countries don’t hold elections


 No.2784285

>>2784118

>>2784252

I'd vote for her if Sanders fucks up. It bothers me how many leftists are attacking her for her views on radical islam which is a semifeudal reactionary ideology which should be stamped out.


 No.2784286

File: 044135676ae4234⋯.jpg (75.87 KB, 992x558, 16:9, branch-davidian-fire-01-gt….jpg)

I'm with Zizek on this one. Twenty-first century authoritarianism doesn't look like the old stuff. Our personal freedoms are left to us while the state rubs out people who get in the way with even more ruthless efficiency. It wouldn't surprise me if the American version turns out to be a Democrat. More effective this way.

I was reading about MbS recently. Women can drive, pop music plays from stores (previously forbidden) and men and women can now mix publicly. But look out for numero uno because look at what happened to Khashoggi. You don't want to end up like Khashoggi.

This is why the /pol/ belief that 21st century populist authoritarianism will get rid of all the blue-haired SJWs they hate so much is mistaken. They're not going anywhere.


 No.2784290

>>2784286

The dangerhaired troon spastics are more of a threat to a workers movement than the entirety of /pol/ tbh


 No.2784292

File: 3c23f9ed984d854⋯.jpg (47.26 KB, 327x499, 327:499, 61Bz0FDF62L._SX325_BO1,204….jpg)

Why do no estadounidos leftist parties support pan-americanism?


 No.2784293

>>2784275

>fascist countries don’t hold elections

It makes the population more complacent if there is an illusion of choice. Red team or blue team. Of course in reality they are one plutocracy. America is more crypto-fascist in some aspects in my view


 No.2784294

>>2784292

that's a real head scratcher anon


 No.2784299

Red pill me on Gabbard. Is she just another democrap or something different?


 No.2784320

File: 7e748b0077d086f⋯.jpg (59.27 KB, 769x697, 769:697, 1546939421576.jpg)


 No.2784325

>>2784299

she's an anti-imperialist, on domestic policy she seems to be centrist though.


 No.2784326

File: 0a04afc9e3de9b3⋯.jpg (69.36 KB, 1235x1647, 1235:1647, 5d6e8559ccfd6682fc6ea315fb….jpg)

>>2784299

She's more populist than a normal democrat, which is good. If anything she's the closest thing to a Nazbol american politics has ever seen, literally pals around with Assad, and hindu nationalists.


 No.2784336

>>2784286

>It wouldn't surprise me if the American version turns out to be a Democrat. More effective this way.

We're trapped between the Democrat fox and the Republican feral pig, with the sheepdogs waiting for the stragglers.


 No.2784377

>>2784292

We share far, far more in common with the other English-speaking nations and in many ways an Anglosphere union would make more sense culturally.

Ironically though a Pan-American Union would make the US vastly more powerful than an Anglo union and is it's only chance of retaining dominance over the world.


 No.2784381

File: 0e537a3cbaf1cba⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 18.47 KB, 474x355, 474:355, e pye eo bpl r eo ws.jpg)

>>2784299

It's good she's running simply because of the rhetoric she'll bring to the primary. She doesn't hold back in her attacks against her own party's bullshit. Policy-wise, she's very good on her opposition to some wars. He very vocally opposed the Syrian and Libyan wars and opposes potential in Iran, Venezuela and the DPRK. Few Dems oppose that imperialsim. That said, Gabbard vocally supports Israel and the War on Terror. She's historically been firmly to the right of Sanders and progressive democrats on economics, but she seems to be using their rhetoric now. On social issues, she's historically been a straight up Blue Dog, but again, she's starting to talk more like the progressives.

Be glad she's running. She'll say a lot things nobody else will say that ought to be said. She'll expose Sanders and Warren for the imperialists that they are. But don't vote for her, as all those good things don't make her a friend of the people.

There's only one champion of the people in this election. Pic related.


 No.2784396

>>2784299

She's the ideal candidate, even better than Bernie and Corbyn combined - NAZBOL.


 No.2784451

>>2782269

but it's not even just poor black people in the south. non-college educated/non middle class black people outside the south also don't grow up with idpol or dnc worship to the same extent. I've had several black coworkers in an big city who were curious about socialism and didn't really think that there was any stigma around it


 No.2784461

File: b71ac0757a86a05⋯.jpg (114.54 KB, 1160x629, 1160:629, kamalaharris.jpg)

>>2784299

>>2784396

Gabbard doesn't stand a chance, all the media networks will brand her a Putin puppet and they're going to rig the primary anyway for Harris, O'Rourke, or Biden (in that order, depending on who's running). Especially Harris as she checks all the boxes (a minority, female, corporatist, pro-war, skilled platitudinal public speaker, likable by those who watch "The View", "Stephen Colbert" et al.). Hillary Clinton officially backed her so it's a done deal.


 No.2784520

File: ebfc777a65287a4⋯.jpg (190.43 KB, 800x968, 100:121, 1534771144080.jpg)

https://youtu.be/51ys9jO55fA

>the segment about Marx with the college students

am I supposed to feel this disgusted


 No.2784523

>>2784461

Gabbard is quite popular with white-color voters because she can appeal to them the same way Trump can.

Honestly though if you think this primary is going to be ordained you've got something else coming: it's gonna come down to a DNC that will look like it is from the 1950s and might shatter the entire party.


 No.2784524

>>2784381

Didn't the Rock call all young people snowflakes like the other day or some bs?


 No.2784525

>>2784461

You overestimate how organized the DNC establishment is. The Obama people and the Hillary people hate each other, the Blue Dogs hate all of them, the New Democrat Coalition and the Progressive Caucus hate each other, Berniecrats have established themselves as a power, boomers are at war with everyone else, it's a fucking mess dude.


 No.2784527

>>2784525

This tbh, also if you look at the liberals as a base the Virginia Winemoms aren't gonna vote for Harris because they want their gurl. I honestly hope Chelsea wins just to fuck everything up.

Man this is going to be a great democratic primary.


 No.2784567

>>2784461

The american people dont trust the media or give a shit what it says. Did trump winning teach you nothing.

Getting a thumbs up from the establishment is basically the kiss of death.

In 2008 obama was an outsider. Trump was the outsider in 2016.

A presidential candidate basically just needs to grab the mic and be all "fuck you, fuck you, im out"


 No.2784573

Its hard to believe but before 2016 and before trump the media were really touting scott walker as the one to watch. The media doesnt know shit about shit. They either dont understand the american people or do understand and think they know better.

You dont even need the old media. Just upload a youtube video saying "fuck the media, and fuck Washington"


 No.2784621

>>2784377

>We share far, far more in common with the other English-speaking nations and in many ways an Anglosphere union would make more sense culturally.

Unlike the rest of the Anglosphere, the US got it’s independence through violence, while the Commonwealth countries were peacefully granted independence, which I think has a big cultural impact. Also more than 30% of the US is in full or in part latino. This isn’t true in Canada, Australia, or Britain. Also from a geopolitical perspective a united western hemisphere united under socialism would be an unstoppable force. Their is no reason to not push for a socialist Panamerican Union


 No.2784626

Don't support her, /leftypol/. She signals against radicals

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/825109323470745600


 No.2784635

>>2784626

Based.


 No.2784636

I see gabbared as more like a person who would appeal deeply to independents and certain types of trump fans. She has a military background which is always a huge plus in middle america. She also isnt black or white, she is a samoan hindu or somethin……

She is also fairly young and pretty…:^)

A gabbared presidency would most likely be pro military and less social justicey. Sort of more towards the center socially and culturally.


 No.2784639


 No.2784640

>>2784636

>A gabbared presidency would most likely be pro military and less social justicey.

Which is why no one should vote for her because she’d spend her presidency sucking military-industrial cock


 No.2784645

>>2784639

>And even if we could get a President Gillibrand in 2020, another lukewarm Democratic presidency will not only further impoverish and destabilize the working class and its suffering institutions, it will also all but guarantee that 2024 brings us POTUS Hamburglar in an SS uniform. No, it’s Bernie or bust. I don’t care if we have to roll him out on a hand truck and sprinkle cocaine into his coleslaw before every speech. If he dies mid-run, we’ll stuff him full of sawdust, shove a hand up his ass, and operate him like a goddamn muppet.

Missed opportunity to make a Weekend at Bernie's joke.


 No.2784651

>>2784252

>literal Hindu

RIP her chances


 No.2784652

The democrats elected another stale neoliberal will just end up like an american version of macron.

I can picture it now, lower class pol tards and lowerclass leftypoltards wearing yellow vests and rioting upon Washington


 No.2784655

>>2784652

Let's be realistic here, the American left will be fighting the poltards because unga dunga GOP bad.


 No.2784660

>the SSNP supports Gabbard

She's officially Nazbol gang.


 No.2784717

File: c0529108af8e032⋯.jpg (84.19 KB, 720x960, 3:4, c0529108af8e032b77ecb0791e….jpg)

>>2784626

Tulsi is antifa gang now


 No.2784720

File: 9dacfdca61a9aea⋯.gif (5.94 KB, 200x200, 1:1, chuckle.gif)

>>2784636

>fairly young and pretty


 No.2784820


 No.2784902

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a25836826/tulsi-gabbard-mazie-hirono-catholic-trump-judge-nominee/

Now I know how trump voters must feel, this shit is unironically cancer. I have family in the knighs of columbus, an uncle who is quite liberal. It's a religious organization and it's not the rank and file's fault that it puts money into certain causes or think tanks. It is wrong to ask someone to leave a religious organization when they take public office and Tulsi's response was completely reasonable.

I'll be voting Bernie but I hope he takes Tulsi as VP just to piss these dumbasses off.


 No.2784914

>>2784252

>Gabbard announces she's running

>everyone losing their mind about how she's a Kremlin agent who studied at the feet of Assad in order to implement Hindu nationalism in the US with dictatorial characteristics


 No.2784917

>>2784820

>literal who

he's very well connected in the Dem party

I'd heavily bet on Castro taking the nomination


 No.2784938

>>2784931

Even Lenin did electoralism, stache poster.


 No.2784945


 No.2784981

>>2784938

You should actually fucking read his books instead of cherrypicking. He supported electoral politics as one strategy of many, which had applications in certain conditions. He also supported electoral boycotts in other situations.


 No.2784996

>>2784981

BOURG WHO OWNS A COPY OF LENIN'S ELECTORAL STRATEGY BUYS THE EBOOK AND UPLOADS IT WHEN?

Seriously, that shit is like $100 per ebook. You could not make it up.


 No.2785002

>>2784996

He says this stuff in works which are readily available on the Marxists Internet Archive for free. Go wallow in your ignorance


 No.2785006

>>2785002

Wallow in my cum you gay nigger


 No.2785012

>>2784524

Fake news. He called them Jabronis.


 No.2785035

File: d5be8306b9454aa⋯.jpg (334.82 KB, 1733x758, 1733:758, Marxism.jpg)

>>2784520

Why did nobody tell me there was this much young butt crack in Marxism before?


 No.2785047

>>2784520

>Choral Marx

wtf


 No.2785048

>>2785035

I hate modern art so much


 No.2785054

File: 36c371b761078d5⋯.png (164.49 KB, 497x452, 497:452, dont-make-that-kind-of-dis….png)

>>2785035

>"The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *braaaaaap*"


 No.2785182

File: 7d1b1efc30e0834⋯.jpg (168.94 KB, 1200x1151, 1200:1151, gabbard_2.jpg)

Hmmmmm


 No.2785185


 No.2785191

>>2785182

lol, and she says she's anti war


 No.2785208

>>2785191

She’s not anti-war, she just wants the US to flip sides in all the wars were in. This is why she meat with Assad.


 No.2785217

Tulsi Gabbard co-sponsored the regime change measure entitled the Venezuelan Liberty and Democratic Solidarity Act in the 113th Congress.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/4229/cosponsors


 No.2785269

>>2785191

>2019

>still believing in the myth of elected "anti-war" politicians

Anon…


 No.2785308

>>2785264

>>2785297

>>2785301

Genuine Hindu is a bit of a silly concept when Hinduism has a long history of cults and esoteric offshoots. I hat a history teacher who was Indian, one of her big points was that this rhetoric about authentic Indian or Authentic Hindu is the rhetoric of right wing hindu nationalists and the orientialist british colonists who preceded them.


 No.2785319

>>2712057

>confederacy

>white nationalist ethnostate

what makes you think this? was every country that owned African slaves a white nationalist ethnostate? absolutely not.

ethnostates are a very specific thing.


 No.2785321

>>2785297

Butler's father was a communist.

Butler spoke against interventionism.

Tulsi = Butler


 No.2785328

>>2784567

fucking this.


 No.2785329

What do people think of Richard Ojeda?


 No.2785332


 No.2785351

>>2785264

This reminds me of that last South Korean president.


 No.2785352

>>2785319

The way slavery was treated in its constitution. Whereas America defined slavery broadly as "people held in service or labor", the Confederacy defined slaves specifically as "negroes of the African race" and ALL slavery was specifically "negro slavery". Every other country that owned African slaves didn't make slavery specifically ethnic, hence why they can't be considered ethnostates.

I guess you might say that it was a proto-ethnostate, because while it was very specifically anti-African it wasn't specifically pro-white. Whiteness, as an identity, wasn't really solidified yet so such an ethnostate couldn't truly exist yet.


 No.2785474

>>2785308

>one of her big points was that this rhetoric about authentic Indian or Authentic Hindu is the rhetoric of right wing hindu nationalists and the orientialist british colonists who preceded them.

except all the Hindu cults are far right too…


 No.2785480

>>2785182

>That pic

Big oof. Did she not think it would look bad being one of four of Ted Cruz Rick Santorum and Mike Huckabee on a poster?


 No.2785485

>>2785352

>Whiteness, as an identity, wasn't really solidified yet so such an ethnostate couldn't truly exist yet.

Broad racial categories lack any objective definitions, so there's no reason an ethnostate couldn't exist at the time. I don't think calling it a precursor to ethnonationalism is fitting.


 No.2785588

>>2785352

>Whiteness, as an identity, wasn't really solidified yet so such an ethnostate couldn't truly exist yet.

Wat. Whiteness as a political identity was strongest in early 19th century politics. The whole idea of free labor and political equality was inherent in being a white male even among anti slavery people


 No.2785617

>>2785297

damn. dont you want to live in the timeline where america gets taken over by a hindu cult.

And you thought the trump arc was a twist.

NEXT TIME ON AMERICA


 No.2785624

File: 0cd22b0b23dc515⋯.jpg (6.35 KB, 250x147, 250:147, soy.jpg)

>>2785480

>big oof


 No.2785648

File: 2e15d6eb589667f⋯.jpg (47.16 KB, 633x640, 633:640, 0cc.jpg)


 No.2786037

For how long will we be swamped with Gabbard shills?

>anti-JCPOA

>comfy with the Indian far-right

>comfy with Bannon

>supported Obama’s drone-strikes / war on terror

>used to be extremely anti-LGBT and conservative before flipping randomly

>Iraq war vet

This is only the bad of course, but it’s an extremely mixed bag


 No.2786062

>>2786037

all that makes her the supreme nazbol choice, and thus we'll get her memes for the same reason we'll get nazbol memes.


 No.2786082

>>2786062

She’s all naz and no bol


 No.2786102

>>2786062

>nazbol

She practically embodies the failure of liberalism. Endorses imperialism and reactionary ideology (Hindu nationalists are even worse than Muslims, especially in India) then pays lip service to identity politics to make cloistered idiots think she's "progressive".


 No.2786111

File: 9874a314dc60089⋯.webm (15.95 MB, 854x480, 427:240, Graham Elwood on Tulsi Ga….webm)


 No.2786112

>>2786111

>Jimmy Dore anything

>some dude sucking Tulsi's dick for seven minutes

Fuck off Hindu fascist


 No.2786121

Funny stuff


 No.2786138

>2786102

>Endorses imperialism and reactionary ideology (Hindu nationalists are even worse than Muslims, especially in India) then pays lip service to identity politics to make cloistered idiots think she's "progressive".

Real talk a reactionary warmonging president is good because it will lead to the further destruction of the USA's position. People are getting fed up of America going around and killing everyone.

Look at how people hated Bush for getting the USA into Iraq, Clinton bombing Yugoslavia, Obama doing Drone Strikes.

At the UN everyone made fun of Trump. The Entire World needs to be united against the USA,


 No.2786141

>>2786138

I am not endorsing Imperialism, but thanks to the Internet and etc people are more aware of the USA's actions. The Alt-Right crap has led to people waking up to how Fascist the USA and the Internet is.

The future is actually progressive and the USA and Americans being bad helps it.


 No.2786142

>>2786138

>Real talk a reactionary warmonging president is good

Enjoy your ban


 No.2786145

>>2786142

Go away Hindu shrill.


 No.2786146

>>2786138

>>2786141

It's similar to how Israel killing Palestinian kids is kinda good actually in that it shows the entire World how Nazi like Zionism is.

(Be careful in assuming revolutionary imperative, especially when the example given is the murder of children )

 No.2786195

>>2786112

>some dude sucking Tulsi's dick for seven minute

6 out of 7 of those minutes are about her negatives


 No.2787104

Do you guys think Trump will win in 2020?


 No.2787170

>>2787104

Probably, at the current rate. Democrats don't have anyone they can put forward because any candidate has to be acceptable to the consultants and everyone that wants to make money off of the political process. The few with any actual political competence have to climb up a hill, after the Clintons gutted the party of anything that would oppose Hillary's coronation for the from 2000-2016.


 No.2787172

>>2787104

Depends on the Mueller report.


 No.2787176

>>2787172

Trump could go to the border and personally rape Mexicans for sport and the Republicans still won't turn on him. Hell, part of the base would love that shit and clamor for more. He isn't getting impeached unless shit really hits the fan, and that impeachment isn't coming from a Republican stooge who knows how damaging an impeachment would be to the police state he helped build.


 No.2787178

>"It…Its Common sense They say a wall is 'Medieval' well so is the wheel a wheel is {Pause} Older then a wall! And I looked and all the cars out there even the REALLY expensive ones the secret service {Pause} And TRUST me they ARE expensive so I said 'do they all have wheels?' And they said 'Yes' and I said 'Oh I thought they were medieval'"

This motherfucker has entirely lost his mind LMAO


 No.2787179

>>2787176

I want Trump to win just to watch liberal's heads fucking explode when the Mueller report comes out and he doesn't get impeached, indicted, or arrested.


 No.2787183

>>2787104

Looks like the most probably outcome right now. The Berniecrats might do something clever. They're the only ones who can. Fake shitty progressives like Tulsi and Liz are going to get their cheeks clapped over the stupid shit they've said in the past (look up Tulsi's homophobic statements). No genuine progressive is in the game except Bernie afaik, and his program sucks anyway, not to mention he's too bitch-made to pull off a ballsy maneuver that could accomplish something. The corporate shills and blue dogs are already hated by everybody. Just by attrition of how shitty the dems are at doing anything the republicans are winning right now. The "blue wave" was laughable and shit's only going to deteriorate from there.

IMO the only way Trump doesn't get a second term is one of these

>Trump resigns (too prideful)

>Assassination or deep state shenanigans (he's too useful)

>Bernie starts a third party or runs independent (not enough backbone)

>>2787172

damn nigga that's a good joke


 No.2787198

File: 5d2ba636745e165⋯.pdf (2.5 MB, Matthew Karp - This Vast S….pdf)

>>2787177

I'm going to go out on a limb and say a reactionary terrorist group serving the interests of imperialist slave owners isn't anti-imperialist.


 No.2787199

>>2787183

Bernie isn't running. At all. The Dems passed some bylaw to the effect of not letting someone outside of the party be a presidential candidate or nominee, because they don't want the optics of 2016 to repeat.

There isn't nearly as much support for socdem in America as Berniecrats think there is. Maybe about 15-20% of the population that actually goes out and votes are fully on board, and that isn't enough to win or push out the Democrats, as brittle as they are. Most likely in the event of a major third party, Trump is basically guaranteed a second term because conservatives don't have to go anywhere. They're in the power position.

>>2787179

How the hell does it take this long for them to write a report? I've been hearing for the past two years that they've got some serious dirt coming out any day now, and they never deliver.


 No.2787211

>>2787206

>You can disagree with them morally but that doesn't disqualify them from being an anti-imperialist movement.

true but serving the interest of imperialists does.

>Southern slavery was just as wrong as the conditions the proletariat(including children) received at the hands of wealthy northern factory owners.

so? the north was implicit in the slave trade anyway.

>Exploitation didn't end with the end of slavery. Ending one type exploitation to pat yourself on the back and distract from another is just as bad.

so? didn't claim it did.


 No.2787220

>>2787211

There have been many cases of civilizations which are oppressed by imperialism having their own form of petty imperialism internally.


 No.2787224

>>2787220

Alright


 No.2787394

File: 36c0ae20604bff2⋯.jpg (41.64 KB, 800x430, 80:43, paul_cnn.jpg)


 No.2787482

File: 4ad18993adbbfd0⋯.jpg (128.48 KB, 1024x683, 1024:683, burger.jpg)

America has gone full burger retard


 No.2787483


 No.2787530

File: 5ec6979290a37f1⋯.jpg (515.39 KB, 2048x1536, 4:3, burgerstan.jpg)

>>2787482

tbh stunts like this are why his base loves him

he is exactly what they would be like if they were a billionaire president, and they all know it


 No.2787536

File: ce404ff26e12052⋯.jpg (49.77 KB, 624x351, 16:9, TrumpFastFood1.jpg)

File: 6c182a86bebae75⋯.jpg (485.17 KB, 2016x1512, 4:3, TrumpFastFood4.jpg)

File: a5248f3fac81db4⋯.png (274.69 KB, 569x457, 569:457, TrumpFastFood3.png)

>>2787530

I would think most would actually want to have a high grade steak, lobster or other quality food most people can't afford to eat often.


 No.2787546

File: 3383f51b4e44af1⋯.jpg (319.07 KB, 720x1280, 9:16, UsN3KND.jpg)


 No.2787566

>>2787546

Jason is the youngest boomer.


 No.2787567

>>2787394

It's a shame that lolberts are the only politicans that have an anti-imperalist talking point because they literally want slavery instead of killing sandniggers.


 No.2787608

File: a36d10d032028b4⋯.png (299.83 KB, 562x437, 562:437, huh wow.png)


 No.2787616

>>2787483

Should've went with the Kingsman clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP83kn5aYxo


 No.2787675

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 No.2787689

>>2787675

PRESIDENTIAL

FRIES


 No.2787756

>>2787675

The literal burger king.


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 No.2787769

>>2787759

same, I can't get mad at this.


 No.2787775

>>2787769

I don’t know who could, honestly. It’s just comical and so inconsequential yet I know there are dumb libs out there at this very moment whining and crying about his this “tarnishes the image of the Presidency” or “embarasses America” when they should realize that there are much much greater things to be upset over then dumb shit like the presidents tweets of meal choices.


 No.2787780

I enjoy the decorum of this imperial death machine being ruined by this fast food guzzling retard, but at the same time the fact that Trump so perfectly represents American culture and lifestyle brings me a certain sense of dread and depression.


 No.2787783

>>2787775

How the fuck does it embarrass America? It's already a damn circus and has been for a long time. The burger nation now has a burger lord.


 No.2787784

>>2787775

>there are dumb libs out there at this very moment whining and crying about his this “tarnishes the image of the Presidency” or “embarasses America”

This tipped it over the edge from amusing to hilarious for me.

MISTER PRESIDENT YOU HAVE BESMIRCHED THE SANCTITY OF THE WHITE HOUSE!


 No.2787786

Literally the eternal burger, what the FUCK is this timeline lmao.


 No.2787788

>>2787775

The funny thing is the burgers would've been cold and he served them to high school students.


 No.2787789

>>2787783

>How the fuck does it embarrass America?

Beats me, I hear pundits saying stuff like this all the time when I’m driving somewhere and torturing myself with MNSBC. They and other libs believe in the “unpresidential” meme, leading them to glorify people like George Bush, his son, Reagan, almost anyone. It’s insane


 No.2787790

>>2787789

*MSNBC


 No.2787795

>>2787789

If you haven't read this article about liberals' love affair with the show The West Wing, drop everything you're doing right now and read it:

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/04/how-liberals-fell-in-love-with-the-west-wing

It explains everything about this obsession with "decorum" and so on.

>But promoting or endorsing any specific policy orientation is not the show’s true raison d’être. At the conclusion of its seven seasons it remains unclear if the Bartlet administration has succeeded at all in fundamentally altering the contours of American life. In fact, after two terms in the White House, Bartlet’s gang of hyper-educated, hyper-competent politicos do not seem to have any transformational policy achievements whatsoever. Even in their most unconstrained and idealized political fantasies, liberals manage to accomplish nothing.

>The lack of any serious attempts to change anything reflect a certain apolitical tendency in this type of politics, one that defines itself by its manner and attitude rather than a vision of the change it wishes to see in the world. Insofar as there is an identifiable ideology, it isn’t one definitively wedded to a particular program of reform, but instead to a particular aesthetic of political institutions. The business of leveraging democracy for any specific purpose comes second to how its institutional liturgy and processes look and, more importantly, how they make us feel—virtue being attached more to posture and affect than to any particular goal. Echoing Sorkin’s 1995 film The American President (in many ways the progenitor of The West Wing) it delights in invoking “seriousness” and the supposedly hard-headed pragmatism of grownups.


 No.2787823

>>2787783

Because it satirizes the pomp that has existed with state craft since the late bronze age. How could have a great power dick measuring contest based on prestige when the White House offers food most 3rd world nation offers to its workers?

If Khrushchev was alive he'd laugh at Trump's face for the US being so poor even the president couldn't afford to serve stake.


 No.2787832

>>2787823

As opposed to Yeltsin, who would be looking for an opportunity to steal the silverware.


 No.2787833

>>2787832

Don't fool yourself, he would probably be blackout drunk in a supply closet pissing himself to sleep


 No.2787835

>>2787675

completely lost my appetite for fast food for all time t. burger


 No.2787842

>>2787675

This is some Idiocracy-tier shit


 No.2788012

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LOOK AT THIS DUDE


 No.2788017

>>2788012

cue x-files theme


 No.2788039

>>2788012

Looks like he's on the verge of tears


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 No.2788307

>>2788012

He reminds me of the bug man in Men In Black

https://youtu.be/PqEztDtxWBY?t=86


 No.2788400

>>2787482

>maybe I should spend some of my massive fortune for some private chefs for these guests we're having

>Actually nah bruh fast food HAMBERDERS

Is this more or less absurd than Andrew Jackson's big block of cheese?


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