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File: 69b1ade58618934⋯.jpg (30.75 KB, 590x500, 59:50, jimmy 'send the bourgies o….jpg)

 No.2694137

Jimmy Dore's conservative AND liberal-patriotic American fans ENRAGED after him saying Americans are "backwards people" following his trip in Italy, points out the sociological pitfalls in "rugged individualism" and the benefits of more communal living

Even his co-host Steve Oh pushes back against Jimmy's praise of communal living with "muh individualism, "muh innovation", "muh privacy"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGSluXmYvkY

 No.2694141

He has conservative fans?


 No.2694143

File: 3f814ec14e59b11⋯.png (23.01 KB, 621x240, 207:80, 1.png)


 No.2694152

>>2694141

When you rag against liberals, conservatives forget they are liberals too, and think you are supporting their cause.


 No.2694157

File: 6209c5b695b155f⋯.mp4 (2.18 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, marx predicted dis.mp4)


 No.2694161

>>2694157

comrade dore drops truthbombs using the immortal science!


 No.2694165

>>2694137

>after him saying Americans are "backwards people" following his trip in Italy

Oh god, it’s another “Burgers think Europe is Socialist” meme.

The reality is the Porkies inEurope are just as vicious as they are in Burgerland, just look at the recent wave of austerity and privatization sweeping the EU.


 No.2694168

>>2694165

Jimmy's opposed to the EU, he made that clear in the video.


 No.2694184

I want to bring communal town squares back

I also want to motorboat Steph


 No.2694185

>>2694137

Seriously though, the philosophical NOTHING that is individualism is so disgustingly dirty and wrong. It is so devoid of meaning, logic, or anything of any substance outside of the blinding emotional responses it elicits. I think individualism is probably one of the most disgustingly retarded ideas ever commonly accepted by humanity.


 No.2694203

File: 4c51ce9813a0087⋯.jpg (7.48 KB, 255x176, 255:176, DYzLF6YXcAAH_id.jpg)

>>2694185

I'm not gay.


 No.2694210

>>2694185

>Seriously though, the philosophical NOTHING that is individualism is so disgustingly dirty and wrong.

Why?

> It is so devoid of meaning, logic, or anything of any substance outside of the blinding emotional responses it elicits.

What is meaning? What is logic? What substance? >I think individualism is probably one of the most disgustingly retarded ideas ever commonly accepted by humanity.

And yet you go against your own self-interest by not pursuing it


 No.2694212

File: ae671dd8a4afc4f⋯.jpg (84.49 KB, 921x874, 921:874, I'll tread where I please.jpg)

>>2694185

You need to learn the word balance.


 No.2694230

>>2694157

oh shit!


 No.2694358

>>2694210

>why?

You literally green texted the part where I said why.

>>> It is so devoid of meaning, logic, or anything of any substance outside of the blinding emotional responses it elicits.

Anyways

>What is meaning

Ohoho, nothing like life I tell you what.

For a few definitions, meaning is the influence something has, the effects of something, or what is trying to be communciated. For example if I tell you "I hate you and your dumb, stupid /leftypol/ questions asking me dumb, stupid things", the meaning is as follows. "I am expressing my dislike towards you because you ask me to explain things that are obvious". Asking people to define simple words is a pain in the ass, but Ill define meaning in a useful way later, I.e. how the idea of individualism is so meaningless.

>what is logic

Logic is the progression of things from one another. It is how things work. If I, for example, took one stupid question "What is meaning?" and added a second stupid question "What is logic?", I would have two stupid questions. That is an example of logic, mathematical logic I suppose you could call it.

>What substance?

Seriously, what is with these dumb questions? Substance is what makes up things. For example, Individualism is wholly empty of meaningful substance, much like your dumb ass questions.

Here, because you ask such dumb questions, I will ask myself a question.

<Anon, what exactly do you mean when you say Individualism is meaningless?

That's a good question. Firstly, I have to bring up that the individual vs. the group is really just arbitrary. Of course we are individuals, but we also have interests as a group, and the delineations between the two can be hard sometimes. Oftentimes, Individualism is just a vaguely philosophical covering to justify the unjustifiable as a personal interest or a natural fact. For example, I might start a business and exploit people for profit. Some might say, "It is in the interest of the indidviduals to revolt", and they will then pat themselves on the back very smugly. However, just as easily, I will say "It is in their interest to work for me, I pay them, and it is in my interest to own their work."


 No.2694359

>>2694358

The two individualists here will basically argue about nothing until they die of exhaustion, but it could have been different. Instead of focusing on something indeterminable like the individual humors of a random group of individuals, who may have ascertain their best interest on arbitrary standards, they could have focused on the material conditions and needs that shape their lives, and they could have ascertained what was actually effecting people's decision making, instead of the empty, obvious idea that people have their own interests.

Let me just elaborate on how empty this idea is. It is a total and complete nothing that can be superimposed onto anyone at anytime. One cannot act outside of their own interests by the very definition of the popular idea of individualism. If you were to try to gamble to get rich at a billion to one odds, you are following your self-interest. If you cut your arms and legs off, you follow your own self-interest. You, by the very definition of acting, follow your own self-interest. It is a totally useless and vapid idea that only functions to allow people to cram conceptions into it, much like religion and God. It is a tool for creating "good, common sense", and a check for "good, common sense".

It is also largely without logic. It is self-justifying, and thusly never wrong. This is a bit of a repeat for why it is meaningless, and the lack of logic and meaning also makes it without substance. No matter how an individual acts, they are acting in their personal interest. Thsuly, the individualist, at any time, for any reason, can invoke their own self interest as a reason to do absolutely anything. Killing children, rape, mowing the lawn, eating grapes with biscuits, it doesnt matter. Eveything is okay because there is NO logic to it. It is just a self-interest=good, self-interest=self interest, good=good loop into infinity amd beyond. It is one of the top emptiest ideas that /leftypol/, like the rest of the world, loves and cherishes.

>And yet you go against your own self-interest by not pursuing it

I pursue things just fine without looking out for my individualism, because it is literally impossible to not to act in accordance with such an empty idea. I have a new philosophy. How about groups pursue their group interest? How about, gravity pursues its physical interests, huh? You liking these, /leftypol/ scholars? I have more, dont worry.

But, to return to the topic. You dont need the empty idea of individualism, when you can actually ascertain interest using materialist concepts like Marx's class structure. Then, you can have actually interesting ideas like false conciousness, whereim someone betrays their own interests. Or, of course, you can keep your empty ideas, where sacrificing your life for someone is in your self interest because of the terribly, terribly stupid, meaningless, logic-less, and substanceless idea of Individualism


 No.2694450

>>2694184

Oh yea, you and me both. She's so fuckin thicc


 No.2694488

File: bea82947521b6bf⋯.jpg (99.73 KB, 400x400, 1:1, 1494786654543.jpg)

>jimmy waxing peotic about his decadent bourgois trip through italy


 No.2694543

"rugged individualism" is a garbage ideological justification for the system, but lifestyle is up the individual, it has nothing to do with politics

I very much enjoy muh privacy, thank you


 No.2694645

File: 08f38fc10e0090a⋯.jpg (46.92 KB, 501x525, 167:175, Stirner.jpg)


 No.2704160

>>2694185

Based. Stirntards are not human.


 No.2704181

File: b86df20f00ef4c6⋯.png (76.85 KB, 585x585, 1:1, 35B3EEF6-7B53-4204-A5AA-D9….png)

>>2694185

>falling for the individualist/collectivist false dichotomy


 No.2713153

>>2704181

No shit




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