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File: 7aaeaacee3e7709⋯.jpg (40.74 KB, 620x310, 2:1, gj.jpg)

 No.2738556

This time with a French OP. Can we get a cycling thread for as long as the crisis is ongoing?

Also as a Frenchman, I can probably answer any questions you guys might have.

 No.2858697

>>2858591

>>2858509

Is this happening? Is this real life?

Remember when people (here and on /leftpol/) were totally shitting on the yellow vests and writing them off because they weren't an explicitly communist movement, of their preferred flavour, right out of the gate? Also we shouldn't support them because some of them might be racists and it could be a fascist movement.


 No.2858698

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File: 8395eb006d28c30⋯.jpeg (134.69 KB, 855x556, 855:556, aecfa1958d081f2d0618c14ed….jpeg)

>>2858681

Surprisingly good analysis from a foreigner.

Two objections: We're not /doomers/ but maniacs. Pentti Linkola is a cult figure not because we believe in his ideas, but precisely because his ideas are so beyond the pale that people love to just hear him ranting. Before Linkola, we had a Nazi as the national Village Idiot (pic related). Throughout his life he got maybe 20 supporters but after his death there was a movement to have a beer named after him. We're not doomers, we just have a soft spot for lunatics, because we still think of ourselves as barely civilized barbarians. The toga wearing clown.

Finnish socialism will certainly be patriotic, but there won't be a hint of religion. The Protestant Church left its mark on the Finnish psyche, but you'll be hard pressed to find a more atheist country.

I think of all the Scandinavian countries, Finland is the most underrated in terms of revolutionary potential. We already came near to a revolution in 1918 (the other pic related), and while the SucDem reforms have made the people content, they haven't forgotten the class nature of those reforms. Take those SucDems benefits away, and you'll see smoke on the horizen sooner than you'd believe.


 No.2858702

Talking to yellow friends on the streets gave me the impression that many if most of leftist GJs are Inssoumis who may or may not be confounding keynesian economics with definitively leaving capitalism (a confusion that seems to be carefully maintained by Mélenchon).

The slow leftward shift amongst GJs is quite obvious, but I somehow find it dificult to imagine those people I talked to some weeks ago got radicalised much further. I may be wrong. I'm definitely not following this as closely as I could.


 No.2858703

File: f7dc6c9b9df05b7⋯.jpg (22.55 KB, 900x500, 9:5, chakana.jpg)

>>2858698

I love Finland. Anyways, Whoever said doomers can't be maniacs as well? There is nothing crazier than a nightwalk and nothing more maniacal than the average ideology of anyone browsing /doomer/.

Anyways, i don't know about you but i for one would love to see a Finnish revolutionary shouting "Perkele" while gunning down reactionaries. It would be the pinnacle of Socialist heroism, at least in my opinion.


 No.2858706

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>>2858702

Educating and propagating seems important when you're trying to shit on SuccDems and DemCucks.


 No.2858708

>>2858703

I know a Finn or two that would put a round through your faggot skull from 500 yards away with ironsights. If you were to be around in the pub, they would definitely smash a glass on your head and kick your ribs into jelly. Murder all leftists.

>>2858702

>>2858706

Murder The Yellow Vests if they fall to leftism and offer bitcoin to have their families murdered. Fuck all of you scum.


 No.2858710

File: f2298b38a77f7f1⋯.jpg (37.39 KB, 650x650, 1:1, dharmawheel.jpg)

>>2858708

>I know a Finn or two that would put a round through your faggot skull from 500 yards away with ironsights.

Good, i was born to be a martyr :^)


 No.2858711

>>2858706

I'll google translate this into French and make it suitable so French anons cans pass them out with a price of candy on the back or something else enticing


 No.2858716

>>2858702

I think your skepticism comes from the fact that the people who comes to protests on Saturdays are not the ones who are the most radical, not even the smashies who destroy banks or burn luxury restaurants in Paris.

No, the true radicals in the movement are the ones, who, weeks after weeks meet in roundabouts all around France and organise blockades and other types of actions. Those are the one composing the 300 delegations who met this weekend at Saint-Nazaire in Brittany for the "Assembly of all Yellow Vests assemblies" and wrote the manifesto, those are the true radicals. But you can only meet them if you go to those roundabouts.

I don't know if this movement will itself achieve anything but I know it has changed dramatically and irrevocably the (class?) consciousness of many French people and even if it fails at some point it might spark something bigger in Western Europe in the next decade.

My hope is that the movement stay strong and continue to expend and organise until the next global recession and financial crisis which is due 18 months from now maximum (see https://8ch.net/leftypol/res/2380778.html ) and then get even further radicalised by the extremely deteriorated economical and institutional conditions; then a genuine socialist revolution might even be possible.


 No.2858717

File: 694fc9071643d74⋯.jpg (181.37 KB, 640x430, 64:43, nosto_Ässärykmentti.jpg)

>>2858703

>Finnish revolutionary shouting "Perkele" while gunning down reactionaries.

Working on it.

>>2858708

And I know a dozen or two Finns who'd beat your retarded buddies to death before they got their guns out. Your maties can cook up any fantasy they want, but believe you me, the "tough people" are on our side in this country. Just because we didn't take kindly to the idea of another century of (tsarist) Russian rule doesn't mean we don't like serving the porky.


 No.2858719

>>2858717 (me)

*doesn't mean we like serving porky


 No.2858720

>>2858719

> doesn't mean we don't like serving the porky.

insane finns serving up Porky on a literal platter when


 No.2858722

>>2858717

>doesn't mean we don't like serving the porky.

schizo is a slave to the pork who would've thought ring the bells slap your knees together


 No.2858723

File: 1a930ddd3cacb9a⋯.png (219.1 KB, 1024x684, 256:171, Flag_of_the_commune_of_fra….png)

>>2858509

IT'S HAPPENING


 No.2858729

>>2858720

>>2858722

Are you fucking retards not able to read the follow-up post, or do you just enjoy looking retarded?


 No.2858730

>>2858664

>>2858673

I don't think any of you should fetichise or idealise the yellow vest movement, in my humble opinion, you should support it however you can but more importantly, whatever the outcome is, you should learn from our mistakes and our methods of organisation and agitate and organise the best you can in your own country and in your own community.

And for the French-speaking anons here, I think the best we can do in terms of propaganda and popular education on the French internet world is to shill hard for Paul Cockshott and cyber-socialism, he is criminally unknown in France, so if someone here has a French YouTube channel with a modicum of followers, you should make videos about him. Even if Yellow Vests are now openly anti-capitalists, then don't have yet any fleshed out alternatives.

Those are my two cents on the matter anyway.


 No.2858733

>>2858729

>not catching that i was hoping for roast Finnish Porky with an apple in his mouth


 No.2858736

>>2858729

i saw what you wrote fino you wrote you don't mind having porky slapping your knees together


 No.2858739

>>2858730

Confederal communalism of Bookchin & Öcalan fits the emancipatory basic democratic needs of the GJs better than Cockshott's tyrannic centralist technocracy.


 No.2858740

File: ff1dcef0b3c659f⋯.jpg (28.46 KB, 288x337, 288:337, cockshott.jpg)

>>2858730

>shill hard for Paul Cockshott and cyber-socialism

I'm not from France but i attempted to make a poster for him.


 No.2858741

>>2858739

>Confederal communalism of Bookchin & Öcalan

Who?

>democratic

Yikes.

>tyrannic

Nothing wrong with that.

>centralist

Read: efficient.

>technocracy

Awesome, let's go.


 No.2858742

>>2858740

Ever since based Crypto-Stalinist President Jacques Chirac (??) introduced the Quinquennat, france is now ready for a "Plan Quinquennal".


 No.2858743

>>2858741

You know ML isn't supposed to be anti-democratic, right? Love it when leftists embrace the strawman version of themselves invented by the right.


 No.2858746

>>2858742

I used google translate but i was hoping it would say "five year plans from a laptop computer" because Cockshott literally did this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqzj5hrnDCk


 No.2858747

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>>2858741

Tbh google Bookchin.


 No.2858748

>>2858746

It's fine


 No.2858755

>>2858743

Moreover, France has historically since the French revolution been firmly attached to democracy, at least conceptually, and egalitarianism. Therefore promoting political ideologies hostile to democracy would be inaudible, not only to Yellow Vests as a whole but also to a good majority of the French population.

One of the most strongly promoted demands of the yellows vests is the R.I.C. (référendum d'initiative citoyenne or Citizens' initiative referendum in english, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens%27_initiative_referendum_(France) ) and to transform the French Republic into a direct democracy. Guess who is also promoting direct democracy and referendums, a certain phallic pistolero from Scotland, Paul Cockshott.


 No.2858756

>>2858752

that's a good point, where does the military stand on all this?


 No.2858757

>>2858752

>In pre-revoulutionary Russia most people coudn't even read yet the Bolshiviks where still able to win the masses over to Marxism by asking what there demands were, and trying to meet them.

This is a very important point I feel few people understand. You get people on your side by being the one to meet their needs and demands, not by making everyone read Marx until they understand that it's the best ideology. Most people will never be ideological like that, and they shouldn't have to be. There's a reason the slogan was "peace, land, bread!" and not "collective ownership of the means of production and abolish the law of value!".


 No.2858761

>>2858702

>may or may not be confounding keynesian economics with definitively leaving capitalism

Maybe it is best to leave capitalism with a keynesian economy?


 No.2858763

>>2858761

let's start with things that are actually possible, first.


 No.2858767

>>2858756

It's difficult to gade, but there were reports that rural police were refusing to crack-down on Gillet Jaunes in the towns and there are various hints that the rank-and-file are pro-GJ. The beautiful thing about the GJ is because they are their own "brand", they can't just be labelled as "evil commies", they are beyond that now.


 No.2858768

>>2858739

>tyrannic centralist technocracy.

Why does everybody with this teenager flag force me to scream internally and want weak ass AFL type "centralization"?


 No.2858769

File: 565f59c795aa3ad⋯.gif (64.78 KB, 128x128, 1:1, 1545844690242.gif)

[muffled Internationale in the distance]

>>2858509

> This general assembly was streamed live on Youtube and I watched part of it, especially the cloture.

Is there a link to this


 No.2858771

>>2858769

DEBOUT

>>2858767

I guess we'll know for sure if it gets more serious


 No.2858772

>>2858756

Well, after the humiliation that was act XVIII for the State, IVPITER announced that he would mobilise military personnel from the anti-terrorist Operation Sentinelle troops to protect State buildings from the Yellow Vests.

Then a couple of soldiers came out anonymously to the press to say they would disobey the orders if they were in a situation where they had to shoot a protester because this protester could be a family member or a friend and moreover they actually were sympathetic to many of the yellow vests' ideas. However we don't know if those views were representative of the majority of the French army.

>>2858769

https://www.facebook.com/assembleedesassemblees/


 No.2859071

File: 8093b9232ff98e5⋯.jpg (33.6 KB, 527x960, 527:960, 56806657_119964682513793_5….jpg)

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Some people are already prepared for Labour Day…


 No.2859073

>>2859071

i'm very seriously considering learning French so I can throw my hat in. worth doing?


 No.2859074

>>2859073

Well, I mean learning any foreign language is a fantastic intellectual and cultural experience especially if you are monolingual and you're motivated. Moreover there's a ton of great French leftist/communist/anarchist books many of which were never even translated in English, so I say go for it, if you have the motivation and the right method.


 No.2859076

>>2858509

>In the manifesto, which will be finalised tonight and published online next Monday,

Is this out yet? Where can I read it?


 No.2859077

>>2859071

Oh, this reminded me: What ever happened to that Based Boxer who seemingly just fell down from Heaven and proceeded to single-handedly push back a whole troop of terrified riot cops with a flurry of power jabs and right crosses? Not since the Klitchko-Joshua fight have I seen an exhibition of pugilism so glorious.


 No.2859079

>>2859077

He's in jail for 6 months I think.


 No.2859080

>>2859076

I think it'll be published on their site: http://giletjaune44.livehost.fr/ and Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/assembleedesassemblees/ but as far as I know, it is not yet available.


 No.2859081

>>2859079

Ah, 6 months ain't that bad. Besides, I'm sure he'll simply punch his way through the wall if the revolution has further need for him.


 No.2859094

>>2858739

smells like butterflyposter tbh


 No.2859111

https://twitter.com/J0sephch/status/1114792709124968448

police uses tear gas in a carnival

with rides operating with kids in them


 No.2859118

File: 2cc2e25b05182cb⋯.png (43.01 KB, 621x310, 621:310, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2859111

What a disgusting little cuck this man is


 No.2859152

>>2859118

Who is this piece of shit?


 No.2859166

>>2859152

No idea, just someone replying to the tweet in >>2859111


 No.2859174

File: 8c3a9cba5d7b92d⋯.jpg (79.26 KB, 850x400, 17:8, quote-we-can-forgive-the-a….jpg)

>>2859118

That is the exact same excuse that Israel gives when they shoot Palestinian children. Right wingers are fucking monsters.


 No.2859196

Here you go:

Nous, Gilets Jaunes, constitué.e.s en assemblées de nos Assemblées locales, réunis à Saint-Nazaire les 5, 6 et 7 avril 2019, nous adressons au peuple dans son ensemble.

A la suite de la 1ère assemblée de Commercy, environ 200 délégations présentes poursuivent leurs combats contre les politiques d'extrémisme libéral pour la Liberté, l'Egalité et la Fraternité !

Malgré l'escalade répressive du gouvernement, l'accumulation de lois qui aggravent pour tous les conditions de vie, qui détruisent les droits et libertés ; la mobilisation s'enracine pour changer le système incarné par Macron !

Pour seule réponse aux aspirations convergentes des gilets jaunes et autres mouvements de luttes, le gouvernement panique et oppose une dérive autoritaire.

Depuis 5 mois, partout en France, sur les ronds-points, les parkings, les places, les péages, dans les manifestations, au sein de nos assemblées : nous continuons à débattre, à nous battre contre toutes les formes d'inégalités, d'injustice, de discriminations, et pour la solidarité et la dignité.

Dimanche 07/04/2019, Saint-Nazaire.

Nous revendiquons :

– l'augmentation générale des salaires, des retraites et des minimas sociaux ;

– des services publics pour toutes et tous.

Notre solidarité et nos luttes vont tout particulièrement aux 9 millions de personnes qui vivent sous le seuil de pauvreté.

Conscients de l'urgence environnementale, nous affirmons « Fin du monde, fin du mois, même logique, même combat ! »

Face à la mascarade du grand débat, face à un gouvernement non représentatif et au service d'une minorité privilégiée, nous mettons en place les nouvelles formes d'une démocratie directe.

Concrètement, nous reconnaissons que l'Assemblée des assemblées peut recevoir des propositions issues des assemblées locales et émettre des orientations (comme l'appel de la première Assemblée des Assemblées de Commercy). Ces orientations sont ensuite systématiquement soumises aux groupes locaux.

L'Assemblée des assemblées réaffirme son indépendance à l'égard des partis politiques, des organisations syndicales, et ne reconnaît aucun leader auto-proclamé.

Pendant 3 jours, en assemblée plénière et par groupes thématiques, nous avons toutes et tous débattu et élaboré des propositions sur nos revendications, actions, moyens de communication et de coordination.

Nous nous inscrivons dans la durée et décidons d'organiser une prochaine assemblée des assemblées en juin.

Afin de renforcer le rapport de force, de mettre l'ensemble des citoyennes et citoyens en ordre de bataille contre ce système, l'Assemblée des assemblées appelle à des actions dont le calendrier sera prochainement diffusé par le biais d'une plate-forme numérique dédiée et sécurisée.

L'Assemblée des assemblées appelle à élargir et renforcer les assemblées locales souveraines et à en créer de nouvelles.

Nous appelons l'ensemble des Gilets Jaunes à diffuser cet appel et les conclusions de notre Assemblée.

Les résultats des travaux réalisés en plénière sont mis à disposition des assemblées locales pour alimenter les actions et les réflexions des assemblées.

Nous lançons plusieurs appels : sur les Européennes, les assemblées citoyennes et populaires locales, contre la répression et pour l'annulation des peines des prisonniers et condamnés du mouvement.

Il nous semble nécessaire de prendre un temps de 3 semaines pour mobiliser l'ensemble des Gilets Jaunes et convaincre celles et ceux qui ne le sont pas encore !

Nous appelons à une semaine Jaune d'actions à partir du 1er Mai.

Nous invitons toutes les personnes voulant mettre fin à l'accaparement du Vivant à assumer une conflictualité avec le système actuel, pour créer ensemble, par tous les moyens nécessaires un nouveau mouvement social écologique populaire.

La multiplication des luttes actuelles nous appelle à rechercher l'unité d'action.

Nous appelons à tous les échelons du territoire à combattre collectivement pour obtenir la satisfaction de nos revendications sociales, fiscales, écologiques et démocratiques.

Conscients que nous avons à combattre un système global, nous considérons qu'il faudra sortir du capitalisme.

Ainsi nous construirons collectivement ce fameux « toutes et tous ensemble » que nous scandons et qui rend tout possible : nous construisons toutes et tous ensemble, à tous les niveaux du territoire.

Le pouvoir du Peuple, par le Peuple, pour le Peuple. Ne nous regardez pas, rejoignez-nous !

L'assemblée des Assemblées des Gilets Jaunes.

https://blogs.mediapart.fr/maison-du-peuple-de-saint-nazaire/blog/080419/appel-des-gilets-jaunes-de-saint-nazaire-assemblee-des-assemblees


 No.2859215

>>2859196

>Aware of the environmental emergency, we say "End of the world, end of the month, same logic, same fight! "

Not sure what they mean by this, but seems based and redpilled to me.

>Aware that we have to fight against a global system, we consider that it will be necessary to leave capitalism.

BASED AND REDPILLED


 No.2859216

>>2859196

I don't speak French so idk how accurate it is, but I figured I'd drop a machine translation just in case anyone is unable to do so themselves for whatever reason:

>We, Yellow Vests, formed in assemblies of our Local Assemblies, gathered at Saint-Nazaire on April 5th, 6th and 7th, 2019, address the people as a whole.

>Following the 1st assembly of Commercy, about 200 delegations present continue their fight against liberal extremism policies for Freedom, Equality and Fraternity!

>Despite the repressive escalation of the government, the accumulation of laws that aggravate for all living conditions, which destroy rights and freedoms; the mobilization is rooted to change the system embodied by Macron!

>As the only answer to the converging aspirations of yellow vests and other struggles, the government panics and opposes an authoritarian drift.

>For 5 months, everywhere in France, on the roundabouts, car parks, squares, tolls, in the demonstrations, in our assemblies: we continue to debate, to fight against all the forms of inequalities, injustice, discrimination, and for solidarity and dignity.

>Sunday 07/04/2019, Saint-Nazaire.

>We claim:

>- the general increase in wages, pensions and social minima;

>- public services for all.

>Our solidarity and our struggles are especially for the 9 million people living below the poverty line.

>Aware of the environmental emergency, we say "End of the world, end of the month, same logic, same fight! "

>In the face of the charade of the great debate, in the face of an unrepresentative government and the service of a privileged minority, we are setting up new forms of direct democracy.

>In concrete terms, we recognize that the Assembly of Assemblies can receive proposals from local assemblies and issue guidelines (such as the call of the first Assembly of the Assemblies of Commercy). These guidelines are then systematically submitted to local groups.

>The Assembly of Assemblies reaffirms its independence from political parties and trade unions, and does not recognize any self-proclaimed leader.

>During 3 days, in plenary assembly and by thematic groups, we all debated and elaborated proposals on our demands, actions, means of communication and coordination.

>We are in the long term and decide to organize a next assembly meeting in June.

>In order to strengthen the balance of power, to put all citizens in order of battle against this system, the Assembly of assemblies calls for actions whose schedule will be released soon via a digital platform dedicated and secure.

>The Assembly of Assemblies calls for expanding and strengthening sovereign local assemblies and creating new ones.

>We call on all Yellow Vests to spread this call and the conclusions of our Assembly.

>The results of the plenary work are made available to the local assemblies to feed the actions and reflections of the assemblies.

>We make several calls: on the Europeans, the citizens' and local popular assemblies, against the repression and for the cancellation of the sentences of the prisoners and condemned of the movement.

>It seems necessary to take a time of 3 weeks to mobilize all the yellow vests and convince those who are not yet!

>We are calling for a Yellow Action Week starting May 1st.

>We invite all those who want to end the grabbing of the Living to assume a conflictuality with the current system, to create together, by all means necessary a new social movement popular ecological.

>The multiplication of current struggles calls us to seek unity of action.

>We call on all levels of the territory to fight collectively to achieve the satisfaction of our social, fiscal, ecological and democratic demands.

>Aware that we have to fight against a global system, we consider that it will be necessary to leave capitalism.

>Thus we will collectively build this famous "all and all together" that we are chanting and that makes everything possible: we build all and all together, at all levels of the territory.

>The power of the people, by the people, for the people. Do not look at us, join us!

>The Assembly of Assemblies of Yellow Vests.

Sounds like pretty good stuff on the whole. Feels more and more like things might be edging towards a "1905 moment" for France. That part about the Assembly of Assemblies being able to issue guidelines and releasing a schedule of actions - does that mean the movement is centralising somewhat?


 No.2859221

>>2859216

Depends on how much legitimacy the Assembly of Assemblies (what a glorious name, Lenin himself would be proud) enjoys among the GJ. If they're seen as legitimate and respected, the answer is yes. From what I understand, this assembly was large and had voted representatives from every Yellow Vest assembly all over the country, which would suggest they're seen as legit representation.

The biggest thing for me though is the line about leaving capitalism. It was rumored here, but to see it written right there is fucking unreal to me. If you'd told me last year that we would see a mass insurgency explicitly against capitalism in a Western country, I'd have laughed in your face. And to think it all was sparked by a fucking fool tax. Give 'em hell, based frogs!


 No.2859229

File: ad35b76fe92b447⋯.jpg (12.55 KB, 239x250, 239:250, alunya_by_maurofonseca_dbs….jpg)

>>2859216

>We, Yellow Vests, formed in assemblies of our Local Assemblies, gathered at Saint-Nazaire on April 5th, 6th and 7th, 2019, address the people as a whole.

WORKERS COUNCIL TIME


 No.2859231

>>2859221

>From what I understand, this assembly was large and had voted representatives from every Yellow Vest assembly all over the country, which would suggest they're seen as legit representation.

About what I've gathered, too. It's a good trend imo, for what the opinion of a random internet shitter is worth.

>The biggest thing for me though is the line about leaving capitalism. It was rumored here, but to see it written right there is fucking unreal to me

I'd be lying if I said that didn't make me tear up a little bit when I read it.

>>2859229

I wonder if "All Power to the Assemblies" could work as a slogan.


 No.2859233

SOVIET OF SOVIETS


 No.2859245

>>2859231

>"All Power to the Assemblies"

Would be a beautiful fucking slogan.


 No.2859246

>>2859215

In France, "fin du mois" can mean the financial struggle many poor people have at the end of the month to pay for food or other expenditures because their salary isn't high enough to last the whole month.

When a French says:" J'ai des fins de mois difficiles", it means they struggle financially to get by at the end of the month before the next pay. I think anglophones have equivalent the expression "Living paycheck to paycheck".


 No.2859247

File: afad175ddb49b32⋯.png (11.49 KB, 603x519, 201:173, DwcCr9sVsAEfDRg ukrainian ….png)

i wonder how many people they represent, they say about 200 assemblies assembled, does about 10-50 people per assembly sound like a good guess? meaning about anywhere from 2000-10000 people they directly represent does sound like a good chunk for this initial meeting. they seem to be planning on having many more assemblies to join by the time of their next meeting they mention in june to talk about more deeper questions of methods and planning.


 No.2859250

>>2859221

>>2859215

Therefore "Fin du monde, fin du mois, même logique, même combat !" means "End of the world, living paycheck to paycheck, same struggle" which root political ecology in a social struggle.


 No.2859263

>>2859250

>"End of the world, living paycheck to paycheck, same struggle" which root political ecology in a social struggle.

This shit just gets better and better. Eco-Stalinism, here we come! If you're a frenchie, can you give us your reading on how much legitimacy these assmeblies enjoy in the field?


 No.2859286

https://youtu.be/LCgZ8lD2u2o

Today is a very happy day. May the class struggle spread far and wide, may France yet again be the cradle from which revolutionary spirit springs forth and ushers in a new epoch and a more equal society.


 No.2859293

>not marc ogret


 No.2859294


 No.2859296

>>2859250

time to start learning French, boys. You never know when la brigade internationale will start hiring :^)


 No.2859315

File: b603e6171e98870⋯.jpg (28.86 KB, 352x338, 176:169, 99643.jpg)

>>2859196

>>2859216

>>2859071

>>2858591

>>2858509


 No.2859316

>>2859216

Honestly this is some anarchist style organisation: is this really all the Invisible Committee's work?


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 No.2859324

>>2859263

Well, as I said here >>2858716 I think the Yellow vests who organise and make those assemblies are the core of the movement and therein you can find the most radical elements in my opinion.

Those assemblies enjoy quite a bit of legitimacy as without them the movement would have been dead long ago, the yellow vests who held those assemblies in the roundabouts in the dead of winter were the ones who safeguarded the movement together during the end of December and in the beginning of January when the protests were the smallest in number and intensity and all the mainstream medias were claiming the yellow vests were dead as a social movement.

The question now is whether the explicit anti capitalist tone of the manifesto will be accepted by the local assemblies or will create a rift in the movement.

There's a good chance it will be accepted by most of them as the "Assembly of assemblies" were quite representative of the local one (more than 200 delegations were present).

Now, if the revolutionary anti-capitalist force inside the movement becomes a majority inside the Yellow Vests, if "traditional" leftists join, en masse, the Yellow Vests for April 20th in Paris and Labour Day and those protests are a success, if by the end of the year there's a global economic crisis that hits the world and especially the Eurozone and if some alternative economic and political systems to capitalism and bourgeois representative democracy, like Cockshott's Cyber-socialism mixed direct democracy or "Google him"'s Communalism (funny thing is R.ojava was mentioned during the assembly) etc… gain traction in France then really all bets are off and we would truly be in a "Russia 1905" type of situation.


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 No.2859329

Tbh Francanons, if I were you and involved with the GJ: I would be attempting to found GJ-adjacent trade and tennant unions. It is clear the GJ do not trust the union establishment, as such you should be founding parallel structures that service the movement in-order to build class unity IMO.


 No.2859333

>>2859316

>this is some anarchist style organisation

The existence of a central body with the capability of issuing guidelines and action plans doesn't sound all that anarchist to me, tbh


 No.2859334

>>2859333

Eh it reminds me of platformism, especially as it is creating a union of assemblies without even a basic leadership team rather than a leader or spokespeople.


 No.2859338

File: 59f8cd853173079⋯.jpg (105.64 KB, 980x450, 98:45, arton15674.jpg)

File: 692a37c35c31040⋯.jpg (94.63 KB, 2048x2048, 1:1, GLI-F4.jpg)

>>2859329

As would do that, but unfortunately I live In Paris that means that the only GJ I can have access to are either Socdems reformist at best or French-COINTELPRO plants.

There's no way to occupy anything in Paris in order to organise assemblies, since Nuit Debout, without getting blown the fuck out by the police and I mean literally blown by grenades containing 30g of TNT like the GLI-F4 and sent to jail.

Remember this movement originates from Provincial France.

The only time I meet genuine GJ is when I go to the Saturday's protests, that's where I gained my knowledge of the movement by speaking to 100+ GJ from all over France, many of them took part in those local assemblies.

The building you see in this picture is where they held their assembly.


 No.2859403

File: 7f33f46d844ac71⋯.png (1.18 MB, 1172x879, 4:3, Screenshot_20190409_013650.png)

>>2859216

>>2859196

Picture from the draft.


 No.2859404

>>2859403

The funny thing, as you can see in that picture, is that initially "exit from capitalism" was initially barred in the draft but ultimately put in the final version.


 No.2859411

>>2859403

Translation from the right sheet (I can't read the left one)

-Renationalisation

-Capping high wages

-Ending the privileges of High-graded civil servants, elected officials and member of the government.

*Change the system

-Citizen's initiated Referendum in all maters

-Anti-concentration law in regard to media ownership

-Socialisation of banks

-Exit from capitalism (this was added in the final version though)


 No.2859417

>>2859411

Last thing, it's interesting to see that it shares some similarities with Labour's manifesto albeit ultimately the Yellow Vests' one is more radical, especially considering the final version is explicitly anti-capitalist.


 No.2859418

>>2859411

This is pretty fucking based.


 No.2859424

>>2859324

Thank you based anon. I've also talked to some non-anon GJs but they've been Parisian and pretty out of the loop as far as what's going on in the rest of the country is considered.

>I've been trying to spread consciousness of the GJ and agitate for support rallies and similar movements both IRL and online since November, but it's fucking incredible how self described Marxists and Leninists just repeat the mainstream line about "fascists and people who hate environment just throwing a hissy fit". It's fucking vital to get some actual info on this shit.


 No.2859425

Test


 No.2859428

>>2859417

Yeah I thought the exact same thing tbh.


 No.2859436

>>2859403

>>2859411

Oh I forgot to translate the bottom part:

Method of validation:

-Dropbox[?]

-Validation by the local assemblies with the number of votes

-These demands are far from being exhaustive


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 No.2859450

>April 13th is begins a commemoration of the Paris commune


 No.2859463

>>2859404

It'd be interesting if this was an ideological debate or a debate on the "optics" ie. "is this too radical" vs "will this be seen as too radical".


 No.2859477

As a burgerstani working in a factory, one of my co-workers told me she supports the Yellow Vests. You guys are being heard by normal people here too, despite the American media blackout of the event. Keep it up friends.


 No.2859486

>>2859324

What happens if they can sustain it till May Day..


 No.2859487

File: 6bd5e83b6c19241⋯.png (1.19 MB, 1060x824, 265:206, 5f1e9684983419cf32f2c5b451….png)

Oc this blessed day


 No.2859488

>>2859487

If what you wanted to say is "No Capitalism, No Macron" you should have said "Ni Capitalisme, Ni Macron"


 No.2859489

>>2859071

What's he got carabiner'd to him?


 No.2859490

>>2859489

It's for rope climbing.

The man pictured is one of the legendary Antifa super-soldier, his mission on Labour Day will be to climb the Eiffel Tower, once climbed, he will install at the top of it the Commy Ray 1871.2 which once activated will instantly vaporise all bourgeois in a 150km radius.


 No.2859602

What's the relationship between the GJ and the French left? Now that the GJ movement seems to be explicitly anti-capitalist, do they have support from any socialist/communist parties? Are the GJ skeptical of political organizations who try to push them in a certain direction, or appoint themselves the leaders/vanguard of the movement?


 No.2859630

File: 833bf0ce7f6a49e⋯.png (319.79 KB, 497x302, 497:302, 833bf0ce7f6a49ed2f1c44cd91….png)

>>2859216

>>2859196

Is the Revolution coming comrades?


 No.2859635

>>2859630

This is probably more 1905 than 1917 tbh


 No.2859639

>>2859424

>>2859602

>>2859424

>>2859602

I'm making a video right now about this.


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 No.2859642

>>2859635

how so?


 No.2859709

>>2859642

GJ rn is mostly people figuring out what it is they want to replace Macron, a lot like 1905, in a few years the yellow vests will have a vanguard theoretically advanced enough to capitalize on the next crisis. What we have rn is good but it probably won't topple the state.


 No.2859722

>>2859709

the more I look at it, history does indeed seem to be repeating itself, hopefully GJ becomes more explicitly anti-capitalist which leads to a proper vanguard forming.


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 No.2859724

>>2859722

>Anarchist supporting vanguardism

I mean I'm cool with it but wtf


 No.2859726

>>2859724

Radically decentralised confederate council vanguard party.


 No.2859728

>>2859724

If you look closely at it both the CNT FAI and the EssDeeEff basically acted like vanguards do, guiding the masses and such


 No.2859730

>>2859724

left unity, fam. I'm not going to shit on a potentially successful anti-capitalist movement because they don't align perfectly with my views.


 No.2859734

How is public reception to GJ? Twitter is still being overrun by anglos to determine what the French are thinking


 No.2859737

>>2859734

It's an extremely polarising subject


 No.2859744

>>2859639

What’s your channel? Also where can I confirm this info of it being explicitly anti capitalist?


 No.2859783

>>2859744

>Also where can I confirm this info of it being explicitly anti capitalist?

It's written at the end of their manifesto here >>2859216

"Aware that we have to fight against a global system, we consider that it will be necessary to leave capitalism."

you can find the original version here : https://blogs.mediapart.fr/maison-du-peuple-de-saint-nazaire/blog/080419/appel-des-gilets-jaunes-de-saint-nazaire-assemblee-des-assemblees


 No.2859790

>>2859734

Depending on the poll and the question asked, 50% to 80% of the French population supports/are sympathetic to the Yellow vests movement.


 No.2860033

>>2859737

>>2859790

In this in light of the recent announcement?


 No.2860047

File: 4ecf06e9155a4e7⋯.jpg (212.24 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, -Suicide-Squad-Meet-The-Te….jpg)


 No.2860051

>>2860033

No, I believe the last poll was from March.


 No.2860488

File: 90af8b87bfd7857⋯.jpg (383.95 KB, 956x920, 239:230, france-decoupage-956x920.jpg)

File: 72ffdb5e3b87eef⋯.gif (15.89 KB, 495x540, 11:12, France-provincesAR.gif)

File: 22d3f7a870ff660⋯.jpg (62.97 KB, 645x542, 645:542, light_europe.jpg)

File: 0a0b49d8f2b97c4⋯.png (1.48 MB, 1410x1878, 235:313, Population_density_based_o….png)

>>2858755

>Moreover, France has historically since the French revolution been firmly attached to democracy, at least conceptually, and egalitarianism.

This is a nice myth that completely glosses over the historical legacy the GJ emerged from. The reason this movement is so special is precisely because it's provincial and opposes the structure of the French Republic(s) which have been resolutely committed to centralisation based on Paris.

In the ancien regime, the various provinces of France enjoyed great autonomy. Local languages enjoyed equal status with "court" French, courts and laws were ran regionally instead of answering to Paris and the economy was much more decentralized. The cities enjoyed even greater privileges, where the citizens were represented through their industries in city councils. These councils were typically made up of representatives from the different guilds inside the city as well the local church. Instead of the later republican assemblies, based on representative "democracy" aka the rule of moneyed privilege, these assemblies were much more local and technocratic. A citizen could not be represented at the highest levels of power, reserved to the King, but was able to have a lot more impact locally. There are tons of examples here, for example new eminent domain laws, which after the Revolution and until the late 19th century gave the Republic the right to bulldoze whatever the heck they wanted, but I think one example here stands up and above.

Before the revolution, France had little to no centralized police force, instead city guards were ran, funded and operated by the city council. In Paris, these city guards had the duty of policing food markets and the sale of wheat specifically. If a seller was found to be price gouging his wheat, the guards were there to arrest them. However after the revolution, police forces were centralized into one Republic-wide command and received new orders. As newly appointed protectors of "Life and Property" they were now in charge of breaking up people protesting against price gouging, the opposite of what their mission was before.

It's a long winded example, but I think it does the situation justice.

After the 31 May 1793 coup, where the sans-cullotes took over the assemblies, the Girondins, representatives of provincial interests and a federalized state, were sidelined. The Jacobins considered the "province" to be dirty unwashed catholic peasants and started the rapid and unabashed concentration of power, population and economic activity on Paris. Throughout the 1st, 3rd, 4th and 5th Republic, this mentality has perpetuated itself. France became increasingly centralized, under Napoleon local prefets and other departmental leaders complained that the only power they had left was the ability to wear their tricoloured ribbon. The liberal 3rd Republic with Jules Ferry at its head made it their mission to eradicate the local languages and cultures of France with a passion that would make modern fascists drool. During world war 1, fuckups of the French army were regularly blamed on southern "provincial" regiments and royalist officers that supposedly lacked the strong Republican convictions and couldn't handle taking 20 German bullets to the torso like real Citoyens would.

1/2


 No.2860501

File: b5694707542449c⋯.png (436.27 KB, 526x396, 263:198, Chirac_cosplay.png)

File: 60472b6c1739f06⋯.pdf (5.11 MB, Histoire de la maréchaussé….pdf)

File: 21e7d1e0ea878e9⋯.jpg (117.08 KB, 1000x625, 8:5, jean-lassalle-et-antoine-d….jpg)

>>2860488

This long process has had 3 big consequences for France:

>1. The nation has been lagging behind economically and demographically behind it's eastern neighbours partly because of the Republican/Liberal/Parisian obsession with the concentration of power in Paris. This has lead to capital and population choking the city, while leaving the rest of the country barren. Only under Mitterand and later Chirac, did serious attempts at regionalisation happen for the first time.

>2. Because of said concentration, the ENA and all other relevant organisations forming France's elite essentially live in their own Parisian bubble, leading them to consider the provincials as barely human, and stalling any hopes for internal reform. See McRon referring to the GJ as a "Jacquerie" aka medieval peasant uprising. Really tells it all about how these people see their country.

>3. Parisian capital controlling the country. If I was in a cheeky mood, I think a genuine Maoist argument to critically support politicians like Jean Lassalle which represent the proletariat and the petite bourgeoisie of his impoverished agrarian department could be made. Indeed such a gulf between the CAC 40 companies based out of Ile-de-France and the farmers of the Pyrenees exists, that you might as well consider them revolutionary-useful National Bourgeoisie.

All of this bring us back to the GJ. The roots of the movement are provincial by nature and they represent, in my opinion, a violent explosion of a Girondin consciousness, that has long been fermenting in France. A lot of presidents knew how to keep it under control, most notably Jacques Chirac who was both genuinely interested in equalizing economic growth over France as well as being adept at cosplaying as a rural farmer.

McRon however is openly spiteful of the provincials. His "start up nation" program basically being an open declaration of war on the countryside. It's no wonder this rural consciousness, repressed for hundreds of years would explode under him.

Semi-regulalry I see people here confused/angry at royalists "appropriating" the GJ. While the GJ are a resolutely modern movement, with many socialist tendencies, their roots are in the local democracies and federalism of the ancien regime rather than the centralised bourgeois democracy of the Jacobin revolution.

In conclusion, read my upcoming book where I synthesize the doctrines of Maurras and Mao


 No.2860553

Is La France Insoumise comparable to the SFIO fucks? Just checking so I don't fuck up on the scale of the shitty vaporwave I made.


 No.2860559

>>2860553

Nah, LFI are Corbynite tier.


 No.2860576

>>2860559

Is there a local term for a class cuck btw?


 No.2860584

>>2860576

Social-traître :^)


 No.2860610

>>2860501

so the ancien regime was integralist? do you think integralism can still work today?


 No.2860616

>>2860610

How the shit did you get that from that? He was endorsing a Chad non sectarian socialism in a thing resembling the IWW.


 No.2860631

File: b43fd354977ab59⋯.jpg (51.38 KB, 410x602, 205:301, Affiche_de_promotion_du_qu….jpg)

>>2860610

>so the ancien regime was integralist?

This is putting the cart before the oxen, so to speak. The Ancien regime didn't really have a concrete ideology beyond the absolute power of the monarch in state matters and a mercantilist foreign policy. Integralism as formulated by Charles Maurras was essentially an effort in creating a coherent doctrine out of royalist thought at the time. Would the Kingdom of France under the Bourbons naturally drift towards Integralism like Prussia did towards Bismarckian Social Democracy or would we see the repeat of the UK model where aristocracy and capital joined forces and worked towards the Enclosures? We really can't predict that, but it was definitely possible.

>do you think integralism can still work today?

I think so. Modern communications aka the Internet make local decentralized democracies very viable as the GJ AdA is proving right now. Industrial/Professional democracy/identity is also making a comeback. There has recently been talk in France about creating a Corporation (in the Integralist sense) of programmers to better represent them in social negotiations as well as forming an independent body to certify CS schools/programs as legit, think like a Doctors or Bar association. Sadly I fear that an unironic/untainted return to Catholic social values is now impossible in France, outside of a few rural regions. IMHO an alliance with the moderate Muslim community will probably become increasingly likely if current migration trends continue.

>>2860616

See this is the problem with mods being too ban happy, the last few times I went in detail about the deeply catholic and conservative tenets of Integralism I got unceremoniously banned for 1 month. And without that it just looks like I'm some kind of weird deleonist.


 No.2860703

>>2860700

Also I mean it doesn't exactly have the best track record for survival now does it?


 No.2860711

>>2860700

>The SU was a shity oppressive dictatorship, where nomenklatura ruled over everyone else. Using it as inspiration for a modern political project is retardation.

This is the level of strawmanning you're on. The ancien regime was most certainly not a full democracy, nor did it try to be, but what the fuck are you stuttering about? Oppressive dictatorship? Laws were not particularly harsher than under the Republic and Empire and less people were killed by state repression in the entire reign of Louis XVI and XV than in the short years of the Terror. Nobles definitely did not rule over everyone, there were a few well publicized cases of petty local nobles being absolute cunts to their serfs, but they were a very small minority. If you actually read about how provinces were ruled you'll stumble on a complicated web of cities, nobles, courts, clergy and guilds with checks and balances not some Orwellian dictatorship. By the way social promotion via the judiciary and clergy was definitely present and not some pseudo caste society like some would have you believe. Absolutism didn't mean the king had the right to come to your home and steal your wages, it's a political ideology meant to neuter the power of the French great nobility to ensure the cohesion of the kingdom in the face of its many external enemies (perfidious Albion in particular).


 No.2860713

File: 881359dcf7b6645⋯.jpg (377.92 KB, 900x1100, 9:11, Sans.full.1974800.jpg)

>>2860700

>Ancien Regime Appoligia

I guess leftists never took anything from feudal socialism, did they.


 No.2860715

File: 342a8607facb2b0⋯.jpg (78.66 KB, 640x640, 1:1, 34983107_459982534454717_1….jpg)

>>2860711

>>2860631

Still, don't associate with reactionaries


 No.2860993

File: 80af9f4052093af⋯.jpg (7.57 KB, 224x224, 1:1, download (1).jpg)

>>2860488

>>2860501

Unironically great posts. The provincial v. centralist conflict in France really is something that we should keep in mind when looking at this. I know it from history, but didn't realize it was still so present today. But isn't it also the case that the paisans have also been more left leaning in the old fashioned, working class kind of sense? Also, while the bulk of the #GJ movement consists of paisans, more radical democracy indeed has been one of their main demands, in addition to better living conditions. This sort of reminds me of the (failed) revolution in Finland which, while started by urban workers, drew the bulk of its ranks from landless peasants and workers in rural and small town areas.

I'd also like to add that Robespierre did nothing wrong.


 No.2860997

File: 1872a054b84f837⋯.jpg (33 KB, 353x347, 353:347, 1872a054b84f8377edfe32c3a5….jpg)

>>2860993

>I'd also like to add that Robespierre did nothing wrong.

preaching to the choir here my guy


 No.2861187

>>2860997

That's one rare Robespierre right there. I'll save it.


 No.2861190

>>2860631

>>2860501

>>2860711

I am somewhat confused. Are you saying that the GJ is attempting to create a left wing style of intergalism or just decentralization and federalism?

>Girondin consciousness

Whats that?


 No.2861250

File: cf8f8652fb056c5⋯.png (47.96 KB, 400x350, 8:7, tumblr_p3wuxaYJWr1wpgj0ao1….png)

>>2861233

>feudal socialism

>feudal

>socialism

<pick one

Have you even read the communist manifesto


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 No.2861844

>>2859296

International Brigades vs French Foreign Legion would be a fun gunfight


 No.2861846

>>2861832

what does AF stand for? ass… fuck?


 No.2861847

>>2861846

He's a Nazbol Action Francaise shithead


 No.2861850

>>2861832

>calling anyone a gay nigger while advocating monarchy

>a system where your head of state has gay little tea parties and gay sex to sign agreements

lmao


 No.2862365

So what's on the menu for today boys?


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 No.2862430

>mounting monuments, accompanied by colored gas and pirate flags, all with an enormous crowd

Debout


 No.2862460

So any tasty happenings today?


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 No.2862463

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HPDlSoBEt8

They were playing/singing bella Ciao 5 minutes ago,I welled up not gonna lie8. Now it looks like the cops might be getting ready to kettle folks…


 No.2862465

>>2862463

Yeah, the crowd on the ruptly stream were just chanting "A-Anti-Anti-Capitaliste"


 No.2862466

>>2862463

That live chat is fucking cancerous I tell ya what


 No.2862467

It always is…le sigh


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 No.2862553

File: a4e35b969a1c904⋯.png (131.46 KB, 960x391, 960:391, 59m03vbtuff21.png)


 No.2862561

File: 891680a20dcb4e3⋯.png (130.78 KB, 960x391, 960:391, 59m03vbtuff21.png)

>>2862553

fixed that thing I failed to erase pass them out at a rally French anons? idc

>>2862471

Anarchism


 No.2862565

>>2862561

Did you take part today, and did you get a chance to talk to others about the manifesto.


 No.2862570

File: 1b9f7eb871d4312⋯.jpg (220.38 KB, 1020x888, 85:74, fbf.jpg)

>>2862565

Nah man, I'm just a burger that's trying to help radicalize


 No.2863284

How is the public reacting to the Assembly of Assemblies' statement? And the far right and far left?


 No.2864264

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47941794

Apparently tied to renovation work, but I figured it'd be nice to bump the thread, these next fews weeks leading up to May 1st are going to be pivotal.


 No.2864300

>>2864264

Place your bets overloarded workers or budget cuts like the Grenfell.

(it's both)


 No.2864307

File: 3c93744218882b5⋯.jpg (130.16 KB, 2048x1365, 2048:1365, NotreDame.jpg)

>>2738556

Ok, lets talk about this now. What are the implications of something like this on the yellow vests? Is this the Reichstag all over again or did one of the yellow vests actually do this? Either way I feel like it will be pinned on them.


 No.2864309

>>2864307

Well french firefighters have been very vocal about budget cuts, and these kinds of things tend to get people angry at the establishment for corruption.

But no-one will blame the GJ for this.


 No.2864311

>>2864309

>no-one will blame the GJ for this.

Macron cancelled a press conference about dealing with the GJ. It all seems all too timely. If they didnt do it, I still think they'll get blamed for it.

I'm not French but I have a bad feeling about how this may be portrayed given the climate there right now.


 No.2864313

>>2864307

the right will definitely try to make this into their 9/11 (and they already are with hysterical proclamations that THE WEST HAS FALLEN), but honestly if no one dies this will be out of the news in a week


 No.2864318

>>2864313

This it'll just get rebuilt and nobody's going to remember or care about an accidental fire decades later.


 No.2864329

Notre Dame is a distraction from or false flag against Gilets Jaunes and Julian Assange


 No.2864331

>>2864307

fucking nothing


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 No.2864341

>>2864307

Muslims did it


 No.2864349

>>2864307

Oh noes, it will have a charred roof and will require some additional reconstruction works, whatever shall we do?


 No.2864357

>>2864307

good, Gothic architecture sucks and anyone who likes it deserves cultural revolution style public shaming


 No.2864358

>>2864307

At least according to my countrys media, this isn't even suspected to be an intentional fire. It's sad, but I don't think this is a false flag.


 No.2864359

>>2864341

You did it.


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 No.2864605

>>2864307

Meh I doubt anything political will come out of it. Anyone that tries to politicizes it will get rekt


 No.2865126

What IVPITER was supposed to announce yesterday if not for the fire at Notre Dame:

>Macron will ask french people to work more, either by reducing the number of public holiday, augment the legal standard working hours in a week or augment the Retirement age.

https://twitter.com/Brevesdepresse/status/1118119152668106752

The literal MADLAD!


 No.2865128

>>2865126

Wait, is he going through with this? I'm starting to think he's a secret accelerationist, willing to stand up and take a bullet for us all


 No.2865213

>>2865126

>>2865128

Forget who did the Notre Dame fire, the better question is who is writing Macron's policies?


 No.2865225

>>2865213

Idiots who haven't watched the Alpha Wolff.


 No.2865257

>>2865128

>Macron standing on a podium

>looks around, tears in his eyes

>armed guards place his head into the guillotine

>before the blade falls he whisper-sings "debout, les damnés de la terre. debout, les forçats de la faim."

>his head rolls into a basket, a gentle smile on its face


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 No.2865863

File: 026fdc0b162d478⋯.gif (1.08 MB, 220x169, 220:169, 026fdc0b162d478d3bb5c214d0….gif)

>>2865490

>>2865257

Post yfw you realized Macron was part of the Gilets Jaunes Gang all along


 No.2865867

File: 9d7a607cce81cc7⋯.gif (756.59 KB, 305x720, 61:144, 1379071161258.gif)

>>2865863

>Rothschild investment banker was a communist all along


 No.2865882

>>2865867

he sacrificed himself on the altar of communism

will you deny him thrice before the rooster crows


 No.2865944

>>2865863

>Louis the XVI was a Jacobin all along

Really makes you think


 No.2865977

File: db05e99f35c37ab⋯.png (297.72 KB, 2271x2380, 2271:2380, mOnvOJG.png)

https://twitter.com/sotiridi/status/1117881029224615936

*Russian Eastern Orthodox church terror and Spanish Red Terror intensify*


 No.2865990

>>2865977

Read the more recent tweets by that guy. The #GJ was actually worker helping the fire department to get to places.


 No.2866712

Y a-t-il des parisiens ou des personnes prévoyant de monter sur Paris pour l'acte 23 qui seraient partantes pour se rejoindre quelque part et y participer ensemble, ce samedi, entre gens de /leftypol/ ?


 No.2866742

>>2866712

J'peux pas, je bosserai à l'autre bout de la France à ce moment là ;_;


 No.2867605

File: 0fcff70f80f7566⋯.jpg (2.09 MB, 3120x4160, 3:4, IMG_20190419_193126.jpg)

I'm ready!


 No.2867623

File: ab827f989c87517⋯.png (1.02 MB, 960x682, 480:341, 57377388_847846755569995_1….png)

File: e7981257436032b⋯.jpg (302.32 KB, 1200x848, 75:53, ob_1de2d5_carte-trajet-man….jpg)

>>2867605

The 3 rendezvous points for act 23 at 10 a.m. with the objective to converge to the Champs Élysées.

The other picture is the map of the restricted areas in Paris by the police.


 No.2867634

File: 2f75337f3656b07⋯.png (234.71 KB, 680x680, 1:1, 5ea.png)

>>2867605

>>2867623

Enjoy yourself anon


 No.2867654

>>2867634

Thanks, tomorrow's act will be a big one like act 18 was, be sure, if you can, to follow the livestreams. I'll try to post pictures if I manage to get there.

>Saturday 20/04/19; Yellow Vests from all over France are to converge to Paris in order to repudiate the results of Macron's "Great National Debate".


 No.2867676

im in paris this weekend, where can see the protests?


 No.2867690


 No.2867705

>>2867676

There's also a rendezvous point in Place de la Madeleine at 12:00 in order to converge to the Champs Élysées, organised by Éric Drouet.


 No.2867728

>>2867676

What do you mean "see" them? Join them!


 No.2867737

>>2867605

Do you have the The Poverty of Philosophy? It was originally written in French, so I imagine it is an easier read than translated works.


 No.2867745

>>2867737

No for the simple reason that I haven't read any Proudhon yet and I want to read at least one of his book before reading The Poverty of Philosophy.


 No.2867746

>>2867745

You don't really need to worry too much about that, since Marx usually quotes the relevant passages from Proudhon before debunking them. Though I definitely respect the desire to hear things from the other side first.


 No.2867757

>>2867746

I know I could but I want learn about Proudhon through his own works and merits and not only by reading Marx debunking, I think he his important enough for me to read at least one of his books, especially since I'm French and he is still quite influential there. Not that I think that Marx criticism of his work isn't important or valid but that will come later for me.


 No.2869861

>>2866712

Je serai à la gare Saint-Lazare dans 10 minutes, si tu es toujours intéressé.


 No.2869883

>>2869861

Ça m'intéresse mais je pourrais être a Saint laz que dans 30min


 No.2869893

>>2867605

What are the little ampoules?


 No.2869903

>>2869893

A saline solution to clear the tear gas from your eyes.


 No.2869906

>>2869903

Thought as much. Hope you don't need them, and good luck, anon.


 No.2869908

>>2869861

Je suis dans le coin si t'es toujours vers saint laz


 No.2870349

So how are things in Paris?


 No.2870361


 No.2870363

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNn9T56YaqA

Sending the gas back towards the police on stream


 No.2870391

>>2870361

Seems fairly calm. Has there been any happenings of note today?


 No.2870394

>>2866712

Plutôt intéressé pour le premier mai perso.


 No.2870448

This act was less violent than March 16?


 No.2871333

https://twitter.com/Brevesdepresse/status/1119876456220372994

>In an interview this Sunday, Aurore Bergé (a deputy from Macron's party LREM) gave use Macron's answer for the social crisis :

-Less public holidays

-Increase the retirement age

-Augment the legal standard working hours


 No.2871344

>>2871333

MACRON IS ACCELERATIONIST GANG


 No.2871358

>>2871344

>>2871333

Now will you people believe that Macron is an undercover agent? This is Marie Antoinette-tier dumbassery


 No.2871370

>>2871358

Marie Antoinette wasn't a Jacobin, she was just the result of a ruling Aristocracy that had been growing more and more decadent and out of touch for decades. Same with Macron, my man legit thinks he's going to be the next syncretic leader to lead France from ruin like Napoleon or De Gaulle.


 No.2871382

>>2871370

>Marie Antoinette wasn't a Jacobin

Well I meant that he isn't Marie Antoinette per se, but that he is saying dumb shit like her to fuel resistance.


 No.2871499

File: 49231537956f399⋯.jpg (256.19 KB, 911x1000, 911:1000, headlesslouis.jpg)

>>2871382

>tfw you realize Marie Antoinette was Jacobin accelerationist gang


 No.2871500

>>2861844

Historically the FFL was choke full of former members of the international brigades that fled Spain. It was also full of former SS soldiers after WWII and both groups then fought side-by-side in the FFL.


 No.2871508

So Frenchies, how did yesterday go in you view?


 No.2871526

File: 11538feda27c6f7⋯.png (3.09 MB, 2828x2244, 707:561, oeuef.png)

>>2859338

Is dual power starting to take form in France right now?


 No.2871533

File: 83752523d29f79a⋯.jpg (11.2 KB, 220x317, 220:317, IMG_20190421_114524.jpg)


 No.2871566

>>2871333

I CAN'T HANDLE THE SPEED

MISTER LAND PLEASE MAKE IT STOP


 No.2871568

>>2871333

I gotta give it to him, this is the most creative suicide method I've ever seen


 No.2871573

>>2871333

He's doing it the absolute madman. He's really a 1 admin skill ruler in europa universalis.


 No.2871576

>>2871508

The tension is building up. The president has failed to address or even simply acknowledge the crisis at hand. The country feels like sliding further into instability and there's no telling how this will play out.


 No.2871589

>>2871566

Green_Hill_Zone_Deep_Fried_Earrape.mp3


 No.2871596

File: 66e2944d7b0f65a⋯.jpg (57.07 KB, 800x450, 16:9, before_and_after_revolutio….jpg)

>>2871333

Honestly, I believe that Macron's actions here are a sign of the impotence of neoliberal ideology today. Think about it. Why from the 80s till now, has the ruling class been able to get away with mass privatization, the cutting of social security, increase in working hours, decreasing wages, etc? It is because of the lack of working class mass movements. Because of the destruction of working class power in the 80s and 90s, the neoliberals were able to screw over working people without any opposition. However, in France now, we have seen an explosive return of a mass movement. In the past few decades "the great mass of the French nation was formed by the simple addition of homonymous magnitudes, much as potatoes in a sack form a sack of potatoes". In other words, the isolated individual could not do anything as the neoliberal establishment fucked him over. But now that the individual has become part of a mass movement, NOW he can genuinely challenge French society. Macron, somehow, STILL has not realized this. He still things he is dealing with the powerless, isolated individual, who he can manipulate and screw over as he pleases. He, along with the entire neoliberal world order, is about to get a rude awakening.


 No.2871599

File: d1024be14887661⋯.jpg (168.11 KB, 900x473, 900:473, NAZBOLDAME.jpg)


 No.2871603

File: 55edff6f2cd54a1⋯.png (41.61 KB, 386x51, 386:51, 56459649.PNG)


 No.2871894

File: 7e8ef06352c750e⋯.jpg (75.23 KB, 1024x1024, 1:1, 9e60c957999b0a36d2f8aa80c9….jpg)

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/04/notre-dame-fire-pledges-inflame-yellow-vest-protesters-190420171251402.html

Tu veux b'tir des cites ideales

Detruis d'abord les monstruosites:

Gouvernements, casernes, cathedrales

Qui sont pour nous autant d'absurdites!

Des aujourd'hui vivons le communisme

Ne nous groupons que par affinites

Notre bonheur naitra de l'altruisme

Que nos desirs soient des realites

Debout! Debout! Compagnons de misere

L'heure est venue, il faut nous revolter

Que le sang coule et rougisse la terre

Mais que ce soit pour notre liberte!

C'est reculer que d'etre stationnaire

On le devient de trop philosopher

Debout! Debout! Vieux revolutionnaire

Et l'Anarchie enfin va triompher!

Debout! Debout! Vieux revolutionnaire

Et l'Anarchie enfin va triompher


 No.2872045

i dont know if its that i dont pay attention but i never hear a peep about this movement on news stations in the us.


 No.2872122

As long as people still have food on the table there will be no revolution. >Change my mind


 No.2872123

>>2871573

> not 0 admin


 No.2872368

>>2872122

There's some truth to this, in that the common catalyst throughout every civil war and revolution has been a rise in food prices


 No.2872405

>>2872368

>inb4 Macron raises food prices


 No.2872837


 No.2872838

>>2872837

wat dat


 No.2872949

>>2872368

>>2872122

Some people are already broke on the 17th of the month, I've heard a story about an older lady who couldn't buy her prescription drugs at the local chemist


 No.2873003

File: 076f847825ee3f8⋯.jpg (79.96 KB, 694x960, 347:480, IMG_20190423_071311.jpg)


 No.2873040

>>2873003

Yes because the global south as the right climate to produce towering oak trees you fucking dolt.

Tbh they're probs gonna come from Canada.


 No.2873066

>>2873040

good grief they're going to use special exotic ingredients, why don't they make a few minor design alterations to make French trees fit.


 No.2873096

>>2873040

They can't use other wood?


 No.2873098

>>2873096

Oak trees are sacred to Slavic pagans and they will use this fire as an excuse to defile sacred Slavic forests.


 No.2873130

>>2873066

Because they are literally not thicc enough. You need big massive fuck-off trees that were either natural ones that had stood for 100s of years, or were grown in specific forests for the purposes of large architecture and later ship building. The reason they don't exist anymore is that the need for them in architecture faded in the renaissance (as architecture moved towards geometrical support as opposed to pure mechanical support) and ship-making was moved to the Americas (the forrests beyond the King George line were in-part kept Native American because they wanted to stop settled farming the land because the wood was used for ship masts).

>>2873096

Oak is one of the strongest woods known to man, they might use redwood but that would still come from NA. So yeah, the trees are likely to come from North America, if it was Quebec it would be pretty fitting tbh.


 No.2873132

>>2871333

b-but it's the protestors who are violent!


 No.2873133

>>2871894

>"I'm tired of this," a clothing shop owner in the Marais

lol fucking die


 No.2873137

>>2872838

tl dt: In protests this week, you had people saying stuff along the lines of: "cops don't kill yourselves, join us!" and then a few said "cops kill yourselves!"

Guess which one of the slogan the MSM reported on?


 No.2875213

File: 3cd43299a3016cb⋯.jpg (84.35 KB, 980x551, 980:551, 5cc1fef2fc7e937b258b45d5.jpg)

https://www.rt.com/news/457561-macron-tax-reforms-protests/

French President Emmanuel Macron has offered another 5 billion euros worth of tax cuts and government reforms as a way to appease Yellow Vest protesters but insists the French must “work more” in turn.

In the first major press conference of his presidency, lasting for over two hours, the 41-year-old Macron said he wanted to implement “significant” income tax cuts amounting to €5 billion ($5.56 billion) or so, but that government spending would have to be cut and the French would have to put in longer work hours.

“We must work more, I’ve said it before. France works much less than its neighbors. We need to have a real debate on this,” Macron said.

The proposed tax cut would be funded by cracking down on tax evasion and closing corporate loopholes, Macron said. He also floated the idea of making it easier to put some issues to a referendum, decentralize some government decisions, and even reform the French parliament.

Macron’s measures are aimed at placating the Yellow Vests (gillets jaunes), which started out as a protest against a gas tax last year. They have gathered for 23 Saturdays in a row as of this week, and attempts by police to disperse them have frequently turned violent.

An investment banker who defeated both the establishment parties and the nationalist opposition in 2017, Macron is struggling with a 30 percent approval rating and the perception that he is “elitist.” He remained committed to his agenda at Thursday’s press conference, however. “I asked myself: Should we stop everything that was done over the past two years? Did we take a wrong turn? I believe quite the opposite,” Macron said.


 No.2875228

File: 0dd17726e2ce372⋯.jpg (150.09 KB, 973x1200, 973:1200, AmelieSuzanneSerre-Auguste….JPG)

>>2875213

Gang, gang?


 No.2875257

File: e5085b314228c58⋯.png (948.36 KB, 800x714, 400:357, readingrainbowlevar_custom….png)

>>2875213

This fucking guy can't admit when he's beaten


 No.2875278

>>2875213

"Although they offer us concessions,

change will not come from above."


 No.2875539

Macron pursuing journalists who exposed French complicity in possible Saudi war crimes in Yemen

Three journalists have been summoned for questioning by French police for their role in an explosive report detailing how the Macron government knowingly sold arms to Saudi Arabia and the UAE for use in Yemen.

The move has been condemned in a statement signed by 36 French press outlets, including Le Monde and AFP.

Tens of thousands of civilians have been killed in the US-Saudi intervention in Yemen which has been waged since 2015. Up to 14 million people are at risk of starvation as a result of the ensuing US-Saudi blockade.

https://www.rt.com/news/457602-macron-prosecute-journalists-yemen-coverage/


 No.2875540

Hey, i have a pair of questions to Frenchanons, are you there m8s?

1) I'm Italian and i have been to acte XIII in Paris. It was cool af, the best manifestation i've ever taken part in. And i realized, for the 1728182202933829st time, how much shitty and biased is media propaganda, especially in my country. Everybody was singing a anti anticapitaliste and they were more or less all comrades or normal people, while our TV always says that they are fascist and sovranists. So, i ask: were can i find cool footage, real numbers and, in general, decent information about the GJ every sunday morning? I prefer english or italian sources, but i also have a basic understanding of French

2) what people in the mobilitation think about Melenchon and La France Insoumise? Because i know they are very anti-EU and friends with some sectors of the CGT which is higly involved in GJ, but i don't see much consese growing around LFI, inspite of this. Is really like this? And why, in your opinion?

3) Do you think this year's g7 will turn like Genoa's 2001 g8, under thr circumstances France is passing by?


 No.2875551

>>2875540

>>2875540

>So, i ask: were can i find cool footage, real numbers and, in general, decent information about the GJ every sunday morning? I prefer english or italian sources, but i also have a basic understanding of French

Basically youtube at this point, look out for actual french people/channel discussing gilets jaunes, yellow vests. Not corporate tv.

Ironically russian tv channels are fairly unbiased in their treatment of the yellow vests

2) Critical support of mélenchon and LFI. Mélenchon strategically failed at the election and nobody in LFI really is up to the task of leading the party, IMO the left is due for reorganization, it will happen organically.

3)


 No.2875617

>>2875213

So… Thi isn't gonna fly, is it french anons?


 No.2875635

>>2875617

of course not, it's a blatent attempt to buy them off and he'd drop it the moment it stops being convenient


 No.2875649

>>2875635

>>2875617

A little translation of this image :

>"Did you think the president was:

>Convincing: 03%

>Not convincing : 97%"


 No.2875650

File: e45a4ef0f0ae0a3⋯.jpg (59.44 KB, 838x470, 419:235, D5EK2lqUIAIiDv1.jpg:large.jpg)

>>2875649

oops, forgot it…


 No.2875736

>>2875650

Yet some French anon was telling that he thought Macron would win even with really high disapproval rates. I understand porkies co-opting elections via propaganda, but this would be too much. What you guys think will happen?


 No.2875783

>>2875736

maybe if le pen passes to the 2nd round again


 No.2875793

File: 9f6c055dc03a276⋯.png (35.18 KB, 507x526, 507:526, never trust socdems.png)


 No.2875797

>>2875793

Well, joke's on them. I'm assuming there will be no activity tomorrow, as hell will break loose on Wednesday, but any info on that?


 No.2875798

>>2875793

Social fascists strike again.


 No.2875915

>>2873130

>if it was Québec it would be pretty fitting tbh.

Quiet Revolution 2: Notre Dame bougalou


 No.2876408

>>2875793

sauces?


 No.2876409

>>2876408

btw i'm not OP, it's only 8ch being silly


 No.2876412

No protests this morning, or has youtube stopped showing live streams on it?


 No.2876456

>>2875736

Frenchanon here i'm fairly confident that if a new Macron doesn't show up he'll win the next one with a rematch of Macron-Lepen.

The PS is still dead, Mélenchon lost popularity for some reasons even though he hasn't changed his strategy much imo and the republicans or whatever their new name is this week have been pretty quiet.


 No.2876465

>>2876456

>Mélenchon lost popularity for some reasons

He never advanced in the polls or in the eyes of the public for supporting the GJ?


 No.2876493

>>2876465

Not so much because he didn't link himself or the FI to the Gilets Jaunes as much as he could have in fear of alienating potential GJs. Also keep in mind that not 100% of the population support the GJs the latest polls float around 50-60% i think

And i just remembered two things that lost him popularity: 1.He got really pissed off during the raid at his home and there was a video that was seen by pretty much everyone of him almost foaming at the mouth angry and yelling and 2.There was some shady stuff happening with Le Média an online news outlet that was heavily linked with the FI.


 No.2876675

File: 85197d4037561d3⋯.jpg (160.33 KB, 941x850, 941:850, D5KMgZBWAAEOwKT.jpg:large.jpg)

From a sociologist, Isabelle Sommier, who studying the yellow vests;

>Generally, we have seen a really clear shift of the discourse of some yellow vests groups toward anticapitalism (especially those of Commercy and Saint-Nazaire). The repression they have experienced strengthen their hatred of the police and the idea that violence is a legitimate tool. It's obvious now, that months after months, a process of radicalisation has undergone, in some of them, which goes in the way that radical activists hoped for.

https://t.co/Q2YwuTxiM0


 No.2876704

>>2876456

Depends. I doubt Macron will win re-election against whoever if a crisis would finally hit. And we're due for one in Europe (one in US as well). Material conditions would decrease to a point the population would cry for a change.

>>2871596

Highly doubt it is due to his incompetence, he has many advisers and I'm sure his backers (banks) tell him what to do. For around 2 decades you've seen barely any increase in wages, well everything else increased in price many times. Production and productivity has increased a lot but material cost has increased much more which royally screws over anyone under 30 and the younger part of the working class. Why? Buying a house becomes very hard, just getting by to meet ends becomes hard. The fact that even if you go through a higher education in a field where your profession is in demand isn't a ticket out of this mess into a better life is telling how grim the situation in regards to material conditions is.

And then what does citizenry get in return for these worsening material conditions? Absolutely nothing. They get pushed with multiculturalism since it benefits corporations (not going into too much detail surrounding this), nothing is done culturally. The culture is being Americanized, i.e. worship of wealth and material. There's no war, religion or greater purpose to convince people where the wealth is going. It's very obvious where the wealth is going: tax evading corporations, banks, investors and other bourg elements that add nothing to society, in fact mercilessly exploit society through lobbying political puppets for these conditions.


 No.2876720

>>2876675

At least post the whole article. It is gatekeeped


 No.2876776

the wave of protests today might be a bit softer with everyone gearing up for the mayday protest planned this wednesday


 No.2876799

>>2876675

Excellent.


 No.2877800

something is going to happen 1mai


 No.2877804


 No.2877806

>>2877804

Total: 65 000 participants + intéressés Facebook

17 000 participants + intéressés - « Gilet jaune demain » - 10h Panthéon

15 000 participants + intéressés - « Acte ultime »

15 000 participants + intéressés - « 2m sur les Champs » (lieu différent)

4 500 participants + intéressés - « 1er mai, en route vers la Victoire »

2 700 participants + intéressés - « Cortège festif "Benalla Bloc" »

2 000 participants + intéressés - « 1er mai jaune : les Gilets jaunes en tête ! »

1 500 participants + intéressés - « Paris sous Gaz »

1 400 participants + intéressés - « Street Medic »

100 participants + intéressés - « Grande marche vers Paris » (départ du 77)


 No.2877808

>>2877806

I saw. Does that even include marches planned by the syndicates?


 No.2877812


 No.2877813

>>2877812

Glorious.


 No.2877973

>>2877806

What's this? Facebook likes?


 No.2877975

>>2877973

People that say they are going to the event.


 No.2877980

>>2877975

Do you have an idea how these numbers have correlated with actual turnout?


 No.2878024

File: 3feaa75456d4709⋯.webm (1.15 MB, 640x360, 16:9, 1556095583112.webm)

>>2877980

They were a quite good predictor until now and going by the number of likes and comparing them to the ones of the most successful acts, it might be the biggest protest since the beginning of the movement.

Bon mes chers camarades, c'est bien marrant de caca-poster sur un réseau d'échange d'images finno-cambodgien mais il est temps de passer aux choses sérieuses.

Qui est partant pour se retrouver avant la manif du 1er Mai et y aller ensemble ?


 No.2878415

Je viens de créer une adresse email afin que ceux qui sont partant pour passer cette journée du 1er Mai entre camarades puissent me contacter afin de s’organiser. (

I made an email address so that those of you who would like to join me and potentially other comrades on that fateful Labour Day can join me so we can organise.


 No.2878455

>>2878415

No money to fly to Paris, but I'll probably be marching with the local Communist Party. You really think shit will get real this May Day in France?


 No.2878527

>>2878415

qu'est-ce que vous envisagez ? j'avoue que j'ai jamais participé jusqu'à présent et j'ai un peu peur.


 No.2878598

>>2878527

tkt, ya des risques evidemment, mais ca reste très peu probable que tu prennes vraiment cher. surtout si tu traines pas en début de cortège.

jpense pas quon soit assez pour faire un bataillon leftypol, et vu la démographie des imageboard, on sera jamais une équipe de choc tfacon.

mais le simple poid du nombre reste une arme utile, et voir des flics déguerpir la queue entre les jambes vaut bien les risques ! se rendre compte que tes loin d'être isolé renforce tout le monde. pis le 1er mai t'as les syndicats, au pire reste pas trop loin de leur service d'ordre

bref hesites pas a venir si ta peur est purement physique camarade !


 No.2878635

>>2878527

Ne t'inquiète pas, je n'envisage pas quant à moi d'aller spécialement au contact, ce n'est plus de mon age, même si j'aime bien être là où se passe l'action, avec les risques que cela comporte vu le niveau de répression actuel. Il faut juste être conscient du danger potentiel, faire attention et prendre les précautions nécessaire et il y a peu de chance qu'il t'arrive des choses graves, surtout s'il y a du nombre côté manifestant.

Mais surtout participer à ce genre d'évènement fait beaucoup de bien psychologiquement comme le dit >>2878598 et en plus tu peux faire de belles rencontres.

De toute manière, si tu n'as jamais participé à ce genre de manif je serai et avec d'autres anon j'espère, pour t'aider, comme on l'a fait avec moi. Il faut être solidaire entre camarades.

N'hésitez pas à m'envoyer un message !


 No.2879112

>>2878757

I'm not french but where the fuck are your google or yandex translate? Nowadays it's almost trivially translating between european languages


 No.2879115

>>2738556

Yellow vests need to ask themselves why this is only happening in France. Nothing in the USA, nothing in Canada, nothing in the UK, nothing in Australia.


 No.2879119

>>2878757

It took me 2 mins to put that all into google translate. From what I gather they're talking about the possible risks of confronting the police with insufficient numbers. I think frogs are allowed to speak French to each other on a GJ thread.


 No.2879131

>>2879115

Be ause it started off as a mobilisation of the non and post industrial rural proletariat: an area the left elsewhere is weak in.


 No.2879136

>>2879115

>Nothing in the Anglo shitholes

Why should the French be asking themselves that? Shouldn't it be you?


 No.2879138

>>2879136

No it shouldn't. I've been trying to get people on the side of overthrowing the elite for a while. All I see is self-imposed slavery by the masses in response and them sucking up every Elite propaganda they can..


 No.2879182

File: d50f11e9bee07af⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 744.24 KB, 649x675, 649:675, ClipboardImage.png)

New picture of a 19 girl's injury after her operation. Putting it in spoiler because it's a little bit graphic.


 No.2879228

>>2879115

There arer clear answers to that. We have remnant of social democracies that are threatened and a relatively less deregulated economy while the anglo countries arleady have lost socdem institutions.

The french aren't the american etc.


 No.2879299

>>2879182

I feel so bad for the people who get injured :(


 No.2879543

>>2879182

just read the story, she wasn't even doing shit at this moment, got flashballed in the leg, and a whole team of those fuckers from BAC rushed her and beat her up while she was on the ground

man, here's hoping to pigs getting hanged for shit like this


 No.2879640

>>2879299

>>2879182

>>2879543

She has apparently brain damage too.


 No.2879773

I don't think Macron is going to step down or flee the country. Everything I've seen shows such incredible arrogance on his part I can't see him surrendering or whatever would actually help the country.


 No.2879786

File: 7f71ab35ca31f7f⋯.jpg (64.34 KB, 748x498, 374:249, macron disappointed.jpg)

>>2879784


 No.2880349


 No.2880350


 No.2880352

>>2879773

I don't think much is going to happen today every single news outlet is saying that the demonstrations are going to be dangerous because of the Black Blocs and like 70% of the public transports to enter Paris are locked


 No.2880353

File: 7bdff4badd82f84⋯.png (34.78 KB, 491x302, 491:302, untitled.PNG)


 No.2880355

>>2879773

A lot of the stability of the west depends on the feeling of powerlessness of the individual. If they get the impression that they can actually affect change then things might get dangerous. That's my take on it. That being said, he's also an arrogant prick.


 No.2880363

File: f134236228e33d0⋯.jpg (3.01 MB, 4160x3120, 4:3, IMG_20190501_112255.jpg)

File: 0ffd4869a23c9b4⋯.jpg (2.11 MB, 4160x3120, 4:3, IMG_20190501_111636.jpg)

File: 5d80254534921cd⋯.jpg (1.59 MB, 4160x3120, 4:3, IMG_20190501_110917.jpg)

It begins (in 3 hours).


 No.2880366

>>2880363

BASED


 No.2880368

>>2880363

>2nd pic

Does that costume carry some sort of cultural / political significance relating to the GJ cause?


 No.2880369

Where are the usual RT streams?


 No.2880370

>>2880368

Looks a little bit like Robin Hood?


 No.2880371

>>2880370

or maybe it's just a dude dressed like Peter Pan I've literally no idea


 No.2880373

File: 4af0037ba0318fa⋯.jpg (1.91 MB, 4160x3120, 4:3, IMG_20190501_120319.jpg)

>>2880370

>>2880371

He was disguised as a robinhood.

I have seen many cops in civilian talking about trying to indentify BB.


 No.2880378

>>2880363

Ah beautiful!


 No.2880382

File: 7b95c6642824fe6⋯.jpg (1.86 MB, 4160x3120, 4:3, IMG_20190501_121821.jpg)


 No.2880385

I hope they'll take back Tolbiac this summer last year was great


 No.2880386

Props to the girl playing trance music.


 No.2880388

File: 884f294c011e7a4⋯.jpg (1.69 MB, 4160x3120, 4:3, IMG_20190501_122830.jpg)


 No.2880390

File: cb474a05af6959b⋯.jpg (1.24 MB, 4160x3120, 4:3, IMG_20190501_122950.jpg)

Milice du capital.


 No.2880391

File: 02f83469e45282f⋯.jpg (1.74 MB, 4160x3120, 4:3, IMG_20190501_123442.jpg)

A comrade kindly offered me to step on it for the picture.


 No.2880394

Well the police is trying to encercle us to separate the yellow vests and the BB from the unions but the BB reacted fast and got back in the middle with the unions. They were applauded by the yellow vests.


 No.2880395

>>2880391

You don't see it to well but but that's the EU flag.


 No.2880400

>>2880394

Who are the BB?


 No.2880402

Based romani.


 No.2880404

>>2880400

something like the non-american antifa


 No.2880405

Who were this idiots in black with the banner? They lost it to the police immediately lmao.


 No.2880407

>>2880400

The (in)famous Black Block.


 No.2880409

>>2880407

So yeah it was them then, they got completely btfo by the pigs. Very stupid move.


 No.2880410

Wtf why are there two massive swans?


 No.2880414

>>2880410

the esthétique is very important


 No.2880426

File: 81f91b01a4e6021⋯.jpg (2.11 MB, 4160x3120, 4:3, IMG_20190501_134155.jpg)

I'm with a comrade from leftypol at last!


 No.2880429

>>2880426

based! stay strong anons!!


 No.2880430

>>2880426

Je suis avec vous psychiquement


 No.2880431

>>2880426

Be alert! Cops are coming outta nowhere arresting people.


 No.2880434

>>2880426

please keep us posted. How's the concurrence?


 No.2880440

File: 445180f6f805cb9⋯.png (315.99 KB, 350x526, 175:263, 1546020006026.png)

>>2880426

Godspeed, Frenchanon!

>iznuts

Let's hope so, captcha


 No.2880471

>>2880426

BATTALION DU LEFTYPOL


 No.2880475

>>2880426

Vive le vanguard autistique.


 No.2880480

Could you Frenchies do us a solid, and try to get a read on whether people have heard of the Manifesto, and what do they think about it.


 No.2880497

Based swan advancing on the police lines


 No.2880500

File: c3e9710d2bf1ab7⋯.mp4 (3.11 MB, 640x360, 16:9, 4236363.mp4)

Protesters are trying to surpass a security fence that's in front of a police station

There are guns in there, don't they?


 No.2880501

>>2880497

GLORY TO COMRADE SWAN


 No.2880502

>>2880501

It is my regret to inform you the Police got the swan.


 No.2880507

The fuck there's a guy taking pictures with a giant antique camera

>>2880502

Pigs got jelly at the sight of such a splendid swan


 No.2880508

>>2880507

>The fuck there's a guy taking pictures with a giant antique camera

Honestly these protests have shown the weirdest things, it is glorious.

Also iirc there is a second Sawn, maybe it will come into play.


 No.2880517

where the fuck are you lads watching this?


 No.2880518

>>2880517

Youtube


 No.2880520


 No.2880524

File: 4ba63625c3f4eb9⋯.mp4 (1.11 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Based Swan helps protester….mp4)


 No.2880525


 No.2880541

>>2880501

>>2880497

Any photos of the swan?


 No.2880543

>Piggy keels over

>Yellow Vest medical team first on the scene, provides aid

Hopefully incidents like these help convince the cops to reconsider their loyalties.


 No.2880545

>>2880524

That Swan is fucking glorious.


 No.2880546

Do they agree to take a break when the fire department is doing their thing? Everyone's just sort of chilling out.


 No.2880547

>>2880546

some guy in the red fish chat said it's 'cause of the wounded cop


 No.2880548

What happened to the cop? He had a heart attack or what?


 No.2880549

Why the fuck is there a guy with the Bourbon flag?


 No.2880555

Another cop feeling poorly. What are the GJ singing?


 No.2880560

>>2880555

We're here, we're here. Even if Macron doesn't want , we're here. For the workers honor and for a better world…etc


 No.2880566

File: 03193c8d635b32e⋯.jpg (75.85 KB, 576x768, 3:4, 1545265649168.jpg)


 No.2880572

File: c45bd4e27e301a0⋯.jpg (66.21 KB, 900x608, 225:152, TearsOfJoy.jpg)

>>2880560

Holy shit you Frogs are based


 No.2880581

So what are the chances of IVPITER on his throne going, "Unacceptable, simply unacceptable. It's time to authorise lethal force."


 No.2880585

>>2880581

they've been "authorized" for a few weeks now haven't they?


 No.2880591

>>2880585

People have been killed and maimed, but we've yet to see cops straight up gunning people down on the streets, no?


 No.2880593

>>2880591

i meant that they had the permission to do so but it seems like so far they have known better to actually use it


 No.2880595

>>2880585

>>2880581

No, they don't. We're far from that eventuality. The power is not threatened enough. This is my opinion tho


 No.2880598

>>2880593

I expect that they have permission in the sense of "Do try not to, but if 'accidents' happen, so be it." as opposed to "Will no one rid me of this turbulent mob?"


 No.2880599

Is this a leftist movement or not? why is everyone on the youtube chat saying shit like "fuck islam" and end "jewish supremacy"? Why is /pol/ so exited by this as well?


 No.2880602

>>2880599

Which youtube chat are you on m8, the redfish stream chat is trolling liberals and calling for revolution


 No.2880607

>>2880599

RT with 3,8k people watching


 No.2880608

>>2880598

probably closer to that but this is what i was referring to specifically https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/03/23/fren-m23.html


 No.2880609

>>2880607

was meant to respond to

>>2880602


 No.2880610

>>2880599

Because /pol/acks are retards that don't understand anything about french movements and think burger-tier internet ideology somehow has a huge foothold in it.

Also COINTELPRO.


 No.2880611

>>2880599

I wonder that myself. I think there's some kind of disconnect between people on the ground protesting and internet shitposters.

>>2880602

I'm on RT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzl6m_2_YH8


 No.2880612

Big cgt balloon spotted. Looks like the union is here.


 No.2880614

>>2880612

Yes they are, and they have been gazed also


 No.2880615

>>2880608

So the ROE includes live rounds but no-one's been rabid enough to try, ok

>>2880607

>>2880611

My French is meagre and I don't know a lot of French political flags/symbols, but most of the flags/symbols I recognise are definitely lefty.


 No.2880616

imagine gasing a public place because people are on it.


 No.2880620

>>2880613

Maybe we should go and inform the chat that that isn't the case. I'd do it but I don't have a youtube account.


 No.2880625

>>2880620

the chat is going too fast, its impossible


 No.2880626

>guy in chat goes "great song!"

>l'internationale is playing

lmao


 No.2880631

damn,I forgot about all those based songs.


 No.2880633

The band is here!


 No.2880636

bella ciao motherfuckers


 No.2880638

>>2880560

Beautiful workers UNITED! class consciousness is slowly downloading!


 No.2880640

>>2880638

Also a song?

What about the one on the police, could you translate the lyrics?


 No.2880643

File: 084ed8a9ba4c0d5⋯.jpg (1.93 MB, 3120x4160, 3:4, IMG_20190501_182544.jpg)

Picture of my spinozist comrade from /leftypol/ who joined me today.


 No.2880644

File: aa4d2a5c9357e1e⋯.png (744.05 KB, 1037x586, 1037:586, Screenshot (29).png)

>>2880635

It was around this time after the cgt balloons showed up. I'm not sure how to make the chat go back.


 No.2880645

>>2880640

A simple "Everybody hate the police"


 No.2880647

>>2880611

There are so many smooth brained fascists in chat holy shit


 No.2880649

>>2880643

Say hello for me to the fellow comrades there!


 No.2880651

>>2880643

There's a mad lad if I ever saw one. What's going on?


 No.2880656

>>2880647

That is the normal RT audience at least in Europe.

>>2880643

Does the mask stand for something?


 No.2880657

>>2880645

basically ACAB


 No.2880660

what is happening


 No.2880661

Looks like people are standing around a park and chanting.


 No.2880664

The protest ed? This look so quiet.


 No.2880684


 No.2880687

>>2880599

It's leftist but without theory knowledge


 No.2880688

>>2880643

>spinozist comrade

C'est Lordon sous le masque ?


 No.2880697

>>2880524

Death to those who stand in the way of the workers swan


 No.2880707

File: aa4b51ece3e592d⋯.jpg (54.42 KB, 700x394, 350:197, 48563195_303.jpg)


 No.2880781

>got arrested

>"hey take off ur gas mask"

>"ok im taking it off"

>rips it off my face and slaps me while the two people next to me are being kicked by 3 cops each

>"lol get on ur knees haha ur quieter now huh haha"

>5 mins go by

>"ok u can go now"

there's no real point other than going GRUG SMASH!!!1!11 and feeling proud of themselves

anyway fun day today


 No.2880899

File: 630849a1c76081c⋯.png (2.48 MB, 1831x1080, 1831:1080, D5gDNVGWkAINS4a.png)

>>2880781

Reminder that All Cops Are Bastards


 No.2880918

File: a1892914c2ae372⋯.jpg (51.63 KB, 250x246, 125:123, 250.jpg)

Using shower curtains as proletarian riot prevention sticks is the future


 No.2880924

>>2880707

Gotta start faintly superimposing Robespierre onto pictures of the yellow vests and other French action.


 No.2880966

>>2880707

It's why the situation is so hard in France, giving more tax cuts will just increase deficit and debt even more. If I got it from the article Italy's deficit is currently 2.4% and France is projected to be around 3.2%. Large scale financial reforms are needed. Reforms to EU commission are long overdue as well. Problems are very complex, and it's a very simplistic quote of that economist, Hense, in that article to suggest that the EU doesn't fear a populist backlash. Possibly not directly in the upcoming elections, but when a crisis takes off they should be aware pressure on them will increase as they've consistently failed to push through much needed reforms to answer important questions and problems.

>>2879115

Well in Netherlands they tried to mimic it but a bunch of assholes (cops) on horses driven it away, and it was instantly mocked on all media as foolish.

It's a good question though, Dutch population has an even lower amount of income they can spend. Dutch economy is a shark tank where it is not even rewarding to do any labor anymore. You either sit on the bank, do nothing and collect welfare or you own a big business. Anything in between feels foolish to do. It's because you actually end up with more money if you request a bunch of additional benefits on top of welfare (bijstand its called here) than if you would work for minimum wage. If you compare the purchasing power you had with a median salary in this country 40 years ago with the purchasing power you have now, I guess right now it's around 30-40% of what it used to be. It kind of defeats the purpose of working anything below upper class. Why work for literal peanuts? You're not even working for a community or other citizens, no most of what you make is used to fund banks, gigacorps and your corporate boss's greed that happily collectivizes the downs and hits on the company to the workers, but will rarely if ever share anything if the company prospers due to its employees.

>>2879773

Lol he's just doubling down on his own stupidity. It's fun that media was hyping him up as a very strong European leader after he won the election while it's obvious he had no power whatsoever. It's because his country needs large financial reforms to cut the existing deficit, but at the same time purchasing power of anyone but the upper class is decreasing. So hitting middle and lower incomes with taxes will just further evoke unrest. Doubling down on foolish policies has become the European standard. Probably why the next crisis here isn't going to be a big hit, but rather just a chain of recessions that will drag on for many years. I expect material conditions to worsen much more.


 No.2880970

>>2880684

my heart melts


 No.2881088

>>2880966

>his country needs large financial reforms to cut the existing deficit

no it fucking doesn't you thatcherite cunt.


 No.2881089

>>2880688

Seulement son plus grand fan.


 No.2881135

File: b7243a716460a17⋯.jpg (12.66 KB, 362x346, 181:173, 549749646.jpg)

So…

Is something happening today or what?

I heard this protests would endure for an entire week or so.


 No.2881170

>>2880966

>needs large financial reforms

>he doesn't know all of the tax cuts are put on the back of selling public property and on the people,increasing deficit tenfold since we're cutting any kind of government profit and shitting on everybody,with no fucking unenployement change in sight.

THE ABSOLUTE STATE


 No.2881366

Turns out the GJ did not attack the Pitié-Salpêtrière Hospital nor Besançon's police station hopefully the government will get fucked for relaying fake infos on purpose multiple times


 No.2881371

>>2881366

sauce

Also what was that video of GJ tearing down a security fence supposedly set to guard a police station?


 No.2881377

>>2881371

About the hospital: the GJ were running away from the CRS trying to encircle them and ended up staying like 10 minutes at the hospital it's not even clear if they managed to enter it since there's a video of them stuck outside: https://twitter.com/davduf/status/1123935139376041984

Here's another video saying that they were only there for 3 minutes

https://twitter.com/BFMTV/status/1123869518265298944

About the police station:

https://www.estrepublicain.fr/edition-de-besancon/2019/05/02/non-une-vague-de-gilets-jaunes-n-a-pas-deferle-sur-le-commissariat-de-besancon

They did enter the private parking but there is no fence or anything protecting it so it's hardly worth talking about


 No.2881805


 No.2882443

So how are things in France today? are there less people demonstrating cause they were all out on mayday?


 No.2882453

>Media reports Macron giving in to demands as tax cuts

This is gaslighting and basically justifying the idea that it's just about taxes.


 No.2882503

>>2882443

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo2MZ7VyAKw

Looks pretty lit to me. Can some Frenchie enlighten me on whether dank stuff like toll booth occupations and blockades are still going on?


 No.2882513

>>2882503

>some guy carrying a yellow commune flag a few seconds ago


 No.2882531

File: df876df6f9cd083⋯.mp4 (4.15 MB, 320x512, 5:8, The fallen, the Mutilated ….mp4)

Remember


 No.2882557

File: 9866d0b7b335baa⋯.png (181.21 KB, 480x360, 4:3, 153754727.png)

>>2882503

Holy shit the stuff the /pol/yps are saying in chat are fucking comedy cold


 No.2882561

>>2882557

Yeah, its truly stunning to be watching the based frogs be chanting about anti-capitalism, revolution and how the police are the militia of capital while oxygen deprived burger /pol/yp brain stems in chat try to cobble together sentences about how trump will save france from the jews


 No.2882572

>>2882531

Absolutely terrible, my prayers go to the people of Venezuela.


 No.2882573

>>2882572

smh, truly a dictator


 No.2882578


 No.2882812


 No.2883338

So, Yellow Week?


 No.2883363

>>2883338

Yeah, I guess it didn't get enough support after it was announced so they scrapped it, not sure though. A damn shame to be honest I wanted to see this escalate.


 No.2883366

>>2883363

There's time as long as they keep showing up. Know if tge blockades and such are still going on?


 No.2885569

bump


 No.2886147

So what's going to happen now? Are the protests dying down or will this leave a long-term impact and radicalization on France, especially if La Pen wins the election?


 No.2886392

>>2886147

For the moment, the yellow vests are stepping back from the big Parisian protests and are trying to rebuild a base by retaking the roundabouts.


 No.2886481

>>2886392

This is a good move. The marches on Paris won't do much unless they're supported by constant, more prosaic action. Has tgere been talk of going back to blockading?


 No.2886504

>>2882531

Man all that debt if this was in burgerville.


 No.2888175

>>2887206

>something something leftists killed the movement something something fuck niggers and muzzies

You're right pretty much

They say they supported it at first but now it's been infiltrated by gommunisds


 No.2888213

>>2887206

>/dempart/

literally /pol/


 No.2888217

>>2887206

They're all americans, or americanized french speakers who are butthurt that people think they're faggots for being nazis, and that the gilets jaunes don't want nazis in their movement. Naturally this can only be the fault of Communists.


 No.2888896

File: ba345d6d2ec4f8c⋯.png (37.45 KB, 489x532, 489:532, Screenshot-2019-5-12 (6) J….png)


 No.2888902

>>2887206

>>2888213

>dempart

It offices as a substitute to the site Démocratie Participative made by Boris Le Lay, becuse the original website was closed by judge order.

The one anecdote about him that marked me was that time he chimped at Blacks people in a medieval reconstitution festival because they dared showing an interest in European culture.

He escaped fines and jail because he's a weeaboo living in Japan and married a Japanese woman.

So yeah, t's basically /pol/


 No.2889044

File: f9a013ee4a6d6a7⋯.jpg (171.47 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, IMG_20190512_164053.jpg)

File: a019bb8c02366a2⋯.jpg (169.16 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, IMG_20190512_164050.jpg)

Royalists march in Paris today


 No.2889047

File: 5c290f6868ca3b7⋯.jpg (132.07 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, IMG_20190512_164804.jpg)

File: 501f40b59170781⋯.jpg (209.86 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, IMG_20190512_164904.jpg)

>>2889044

Toulouse et Strasbourg en force.


 No.2889066

>>2889044

>>2889047

lmao what the fuck


 No.2889073

File: 582bbd7ed5bb692⋯.jpg (10.7 KB, 225x225, 1:1, 51333622_255986421970224_6….jpg)


 No.2889077

>>2889047

This calls for a Virgin French Royalist march vs. Chad French Communist march


 No.2889104

Someone should counter-protest with a banner in French that says "Robespierre didn't kill enough of you."


 No.2889106

Do you lot support the yellow vests in canada?


 No.2889123

File: 90f66a56ae97e76⋯.jpg (69.91 KB, 600x338, 300:169, YellowVestProtestDublinDec….jpg)

File: 5f3d94d24e18b38⋯.jpg (47.72 KB, 685x385, 137:77, methode_times_prod_web_bin….jpg)

>>2889106

Nah, they're one hundred percent just some right wing fucks.On the other hand, the Irish Yellow Vests are under the wing of local trade union congresses.


 No.2889288

File: 51197250f0a9bd2⋯.png (400.83 KB, 857x663, 857:663, 1557692161062.png)


 No.2889295

>>2889047

>>2889044

So… who should be the king, according to them?


 No.2889314

>>2889123

Seems backwards. Its the same points being raised in France and Canada.


 No.2889554

File: 3b5443b3a705e21⋯.jpg (99.97 KB, 1185x669, 395:223, B9718415537Z.1_20190130162….jpg)

>>2889295

French monarchists today can be categorized into 3 camps. The Bonapartists are the smallest and least consequential of the 3. The descendants of Napoleon III relinquished their claims about half a century ago and their ideological base more or less merged with Gaullism. A miniscule and disorganized amounts of Bonapartists probably still exists though.

The second and larger group are the Legitimists. Because the main line of French Bourbons is extinct, they back the second in the seniority line, Luis Alfonso from the Spanish line. It should be noted that the 1713 Utrecht treaty forbids a Spanish Bourbon from reigning over France or vice versa. The individual himself is also a shady character who barely speaks French and has unresolved history from the Franco times.

Their fanbase is mostly very bourgie Catholics (the kind that wear pastel polo shirts and share pics from their Med cruise) and internet LARPers, for which they are mocked by Orleanists. They LARP online a lot pretending to be knights and go to Latin mass but that's more or less it, as anything else would mean they'd have to leave their St Tropez villa. For what it's worth the peabrains of /pol/ are of this strain. They support monarchy purely for the muh aesthetics and muh old days. They lack any unified theory or praxis and are generally idiots.

The last and largest group and the one that marched today is the Orleanists, supporting Jean, Count of Paris. The Bourbon-Orleans being a cadet branch of the Legitimst line, most known for Philippe Égalité, the Bourbon revolutionary and Louis Philippe I, the King of the French (1830-1848). Originally they were a rather liberal movement who's spiritual successors today would be the center right LR, but from 1898 the movement has been under the Action Française. It's founder and father Charles Maurras was a political theorist and prolific writer. His works like "Si le coup de force est possible", "Kiel et Tanger", "L'idée de décentralisation" and most importantly "Mes idées politiques" laid the ground for an enduring royalist organisation. Instead of just wanting to restore some sort of King and be done with it, they present a coherent plan for France. To make a long program short, they demand immediate decentralization with the reviving of local languages being squashed out by the French Republic. They want to replace parliamentary democracy with a mix of direct local democracies and professional democracy. Economically they favour Corporatism, which basically means industry-wide Corporations inside which workers and owners hold equal say and which would more or less self-regulate internally. Of course classics such as State Catholicism and a strong monarch are also core demands.

The AF also has a very strict praxis, with regular canvassing, tracting, regular conferences on various topics organized by local branches (https://www.youtube.com/user/afnational/videos) etc, etc.

They've haven't been a mass movement since February 1932 but they consistently manage to maintain their ranks and ebb on the fringe of the French right wing. In the past months they've embedded into the GJ, seeing the common demand for decentralization as a window to propagate their ideas.

Pictured: to the right, the old count of Paris and Orleanist pretender who died 4 months ago and to the right his son, current pretender.


 No.2889562

>>2889554

Scary shit. Thank God they have enough surviving royal degenerates to get split up by them.


 No.2889566

File: c8c11eaa61d159d⋯.jpg (370.66 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, HorribleSubs_Dies_Irae_-_0….jpg)

>>2889314

The Canadians(right wing) and Irish(leftist) differ in the fact that the movements/organizers were made of an absolute majority, while the French one had a few far right minority elements that have been easily purged.

So it's not putting the cart in front of the horse, it's knowing what has potential to be coopted.


 No.2890216

>>2889044

Quel dommage que personne ai blasté Ah ça ira! à fond durant leur défilé


 No.2890242

>>2889554

>unresolved history from the Franco times

Now THIS is interesting, elaborate?


 No.2890282

>>2890242

He was born on the tail end of the dictatorship, but through his mother, he is nothing less than the great-grandson of General Francisco Franco. Needless to say his family has always been close to the centers of power under the Caudillo. In fact he seems to be so fond of that legacy he has become president of the Francisco Franco Foundation.

https://www.elnacional.cat/en/news/spanish-king-cousin-francisco-franco-foundation_294000_102.html

Contrast that to the Orléans pretenders who actively worked with the resistance, helping to organise the assassination of the Vichyist traitor Darlan and served in the French armed forces (Henri in the Legion, Jean in the cavalry). To me it's pretty clear which line is more legitimate here.


 No.2890362

File: 9953e059d85cdef⋯.jpg (230.75 KB, 682x1024, 341:512, 1420721322686.jpg)

>>2860631

>>2860631

>MHO an alliance with the moderate Muslim community will probably become increasingly likely if current migration trends continue.

>>2860631


 No.2890376

>In the past months they've embedded into the GJ

You mean getting kicked in the streets by the ones that aren't faggots??


 No.2890421

>>2889314

They're not the same at all. They both started with the protest of carbon taxes but for different reasons. The dumbass albertans are protesting because they hate tax in general and the carbon tax is hard on their oil. It's a right wing movement. The French working class protested the carbon tax because all it did was tax the already hurting working class to the point they couldn't sustain properly while the government simultaneously cut the social services the French value so much. That didnt happen in Canada. The French want higher taxation of the wealthy instead of the tax breaks they're getting while the working class is getting fucked.

They're two completely different movements.

t. Leaf from BC who is used to Albertons


 No.2891416

I saw some fb event calling for a general indefinite strike from the 27th of may and on. I don't know how "official" this is, have you heard of something like that? Boy it would be awesome


 No.2891705

>>2891416

I'd like to know more about this? Wher the French anons at?


 No.2891706

>>2891416

I'd like to know more about this? Wher the French anons at?


 No.2891718


 No.2891748

Sorry to destroy your dreams but:

https://www.thelocal.fr/20190512/sporadic-clashes-as-yellow-vests-rally-in-france

>Around 2,000 to 3,000 people turned out in both cities, AFP journalists estimated, confirming the decline in attendance since the protests began in November, when it hit a high of 282,000 across France.

>The interior ministry, for its part, estimated just 2,700 protesters had turned out across France as of 2:00 pm (1200 GMT), including 600 in Paris, compared with 3,600 counted at the same time last Saturday.

Yellow vests are already dying. This movement won't do shit except torpedoing any chances of Macrons reelection.


 No.2891749

>>2891748

>Interior ministry

Their numbers are utter BS.


 No.2891766

>>2891748

sorry mate but those numbers are shit, they've been lying since the beginning. The numbers for the may 1st concurrence were at least twice as that in the whole country. So no, they are not going anywhere.


 No.2891767

>>2891766

>282,000

Twice as that I meant.


 No.2891779


 No.2891832

>>2891748

lmao,they keep decreasing the numbers every time,can't wait until they say there are like 20 people in it.


 No.2892767


 No.2892976

File: b45539ec933de05⋯.mp4 (Spoiler Image, 7.24 MB, 640x360, 16:9, allo c 39 est pour un sign….mp4)

pretty fucked


 No.2892988

File: 36d83ea69dd93dc⋯.jpg (24.9 KB, 181x263, 181:263, hpm_0000_0007_0_img0054.jpg)

>>2892976

Looks like the guillotine's back in style, i guess.


 No.2892993

>>2892976

tout, le monde, deteste la police!!!


 No.2892998

>>2889554

>but from 1898 the movement has been under the Action Française. It's founder and father Charles Maurras was a political theorist and prolific writer.

Because I really want to support guys influenced by fucking Vichy and Franco supporter. You don't make a good case for Orleanists.


 No.2894072


 No.2894076

>>2892988

>>2892976

Cops get the guillotine too.


 No.2894601

>>2894318

Who should you vote for? Leftwing, centrist, rightwing corruption, many choices in democracy. The issues GJ protest about affect a lot of other European countries as well. It's getting increasingly more expensive to buy property, property that isn't any more advanced than it was 50 years ago. Increasingly expensive when you compare it with median wage rise adjusted for inflation and house price adjusted for inflation. I have no clue how in some European countries people try to start actual families. Buying houses is nigh impossible, median wage is ridiculously low compared to prices of property.

Now the globalist policies concerning sourcing / outsourcing, irrelevancy of unions, replacement migration just worsen the above mentioned if not are one of the root causes. It's very easy for manufacturers to just export their production and services to lower paying countries and avoid having to deal with unions. Similarly the worker pool can be easily increased by importing low wage workers. In Netherlands for example we have Poles coming in for construction contracts, they work the job for 6 months, then take welfare for 6 months and they take that back to Poland. The welfare which would be 70% of their salary in Netherlands is still much higher due to the Dutch salary being much higher than Polish. So they take that back to Poland where the prices are lower overall compared to Netherlands. But of course the Polish worker just tries to get the best for him / herself, the real one profiting from this is corporations having access to a large pool of workers they don't have to pay much at all since salary raises aren't given.

>>2860631

It's probably wise to keep posting under proxies and hop regularly, you're posting on a site that's a host to actual terrorists.


 No.2894608

File: 7ebaf16af248606⋯.jpg (54.97 KB, 565x433, 565:433, NoneOfTheAbove.jpg)

>>2894601

>Who should you vote for?


 No.2900012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8v94UWRezM

Live stream for act XXVIII.

How do we go from here comrades?


 No.2900016

>>2900012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5C20zMwUOQ

An actual live one by ruptly is here


 No.2900019

>>2900016

better. have you guys seen the submarine?


 No.2900023

<3 solidarity


 No.2900071

>tfw even this thread is dying


 No.2900133


 No.2900206

>>2900071

Remember when anon said this movement shall change Europe?… Well is done, now is worst.


 No.2902270

>>2900206

Get fucked, defeatist. Acte 28 seemed fucking lit.


 No.2902363

>>2902270

this. we need to think about ways to help instead of shitposting


 No.2903295


 No.2903847

File: 306379e2911fbad⋯.jpg (1020.32 KB, 1080x4181, 1080:4181, Screenshot_20190530_031333.jpg)

A pertinent analysis, I think


 No.2912424

Ongoing Rumours from ACT XXX in Montpelier:

A woman might be dead from a shot of rubber bullet in the head.

Another dead woman, took a rubber bullet which destroyed her spleen.

A teenage boy might be in a coma from a rubber bullet.

This was confirmed by street medics; the police said those were fake news. Nothing in the mainstream media.

I will try to keep you informed about this, for the moment many contradictory information.

Big if true.


 No.2912493

>>2903847

Can you translate? I cant copy pasta it into google translate.


 No.2912515

>>2912424

Thank you friend.

Is there any more information? Does France still burn? Too much media has gone quiet.


 No.2912518

>>2912515

>>2912424

These rumors seem to be lacking any reality.


 No.2912521

File: 90f2dd924304baa⋯.png (330.96 KB, 545x614, 545:614, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.2912522

>>2912518

Hello, Macron


 No.2912525

File: bfa1d39cc0ab171⋯.jpg (398.05 KB, 2048x1429, 2048:1429, 35086683_1197048997098762_….jpg)

>>2912493

>For me the undermining by the social traitors of the institutional left (the same mustached people in red, accomplices in the death of our industry) isn't responsible for the death of the GJ. It was inevitable, because the spontaneous movement is a myth.

>A popular movement is a wave of variable length, intensity and repetition. It is blind and ephemerous. The wave must be surfed, in order to be useful. A good surfer navigates the waves to progress.

>A wave the size of the Gilets Jaunes is reserved to the best surfers, those who have already trained in smaller waves. And today in France there's noone at this level. Those who thought they could do it drunk the cup [got BTFO] first of all Le France Insoumise.

>The wave has passed, noone won, all the better for us, it's all up for grabs. The important thing is to be the only ones ready for the arrival of the next wave, the one that will permit us to jump the dam [go full Bonnot gang on steroids on absolutely everyone]. Until them calm, and then crescendo.

I left the idioms and translated them to relevant expressions.Also I'm listening to Fauve right now and feeling quite sad.


 No.2912533

>>2912522

C'est tout aussi idiot d'accréditer n'importe quelle rumeur. Si on veut que ça penche de notre côté, il va falloir agir intelligemment avec pleine conscience de nos actes. Une révolution volée n'a aucun intérêt.


 No.2912628

>>2912525

Sounds indeed like a good analysis. So GJ really is dead for now, huh?

I wouldn't feel too sad if I were you though. The next wave will indeed come, and the GJ has laid some very important ground work already.


 No.2912647

>>2912628

I'm not the one who posted it, je est un autre, but I remember the lost wave in 2008-11 and it's just a complete despair sometimes because I first read The Invisible Committee then and as long as there is a normal to return to nothing will ever happen, I'm convinced. Also Badiou was right about the GJ and Mark Fisher feels like Pollyanna sometimes, and the Marxists are just a fetish club too. So, cheers to our second Lost Decade, friends.


 No.2912671

>>2912647

>as long as there is a normal to return to nothing will ever happen, I'm convinced.

When has this not been the case? There's plenty of upheaval headed our way, you don't have to worry about that.


 No.2912676

Is the movement losing steam? The redfish streams of each act have gotten shorter and shorter but I don't know the details


 No.2912686

File: 3a0cbd0513518c4⋯.png (1.56 MB, 1200x675, 16:9, t5ljssvaj0711.png)

>>2912671

>There's plenty of upheaval headed our way

Great


 No.2912705

>>2912686

That is nearly impossible to read.

Also we still have the massive economic recession that is almost certain to happen by the end of 2020.


 No.2912726

>>2912705

EuroCultural Revolution soon is the meaning of the text I guess, but I think the crash will first lead to a war and maybe there'll be some Dengist Lenin in America, that would be fun to watch.


 No.2913246

https://www.dissentmagazine.org/online_articles/an-interview-with-jean-claude-michea

>Indeed, it has become almost as difficult, at present, to find genuine supporters of the Yellow Vests among those—whether they identify with the right or the left—who earn more than €3,000 a month [a little more than $40,000 a year] (i.e., 17 percent of the French population) as it is to find resolute opponents of this movement among those (who make up 60 percent of the population) who “live” on less than €2,000 a month [about $27,000 a year]!

>Very significant from this perspective is the incredible misadventure experienced by Le Monde (the most important newspaper of the French liberal left) on December 16, 2018. After making the mistake of approving for publication an empathetic report on the terribly precarious and difficult living conditions of a family of Yellow Vests, the liberal daily’s website was overcome with enraged and hateful comments from its usual left-leaning readers, who were outraged that any compassion could be summoned for these “social parasites” and “welfare beneficiaries” (assistés) who did not even have the excuse of having the right skin color.

>All this justifies Upton Sinclair’s insight that “it is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.” Whatever the short-term political fate of this Yellow Vest movement may be (for one must not forget that Emmanuel Macron—good left-wing Thatcherite that he is—will not hesitate for one instant to use every means possible, including the very bloodiest, to break their revolt and defend his class privileges)—it is already clear that it has raised in a spectacular fashion—in a matter of weeks—the political consciousness of those from “below” (notably on the question of the structural limits of this allegedly “representative” system that, at present, is taking on water from every direction).


 No.2913288

>>2913246

And you guys told me the labor Aristocracy didn't exist


 No.2913291

>>2913288

I stopped believing the first world proletariat will do anything. Mao was fucking redpilled to the max.


 No.2913307

>>2913291

Wait until the first begins looking like the third


 No.2913358

>>2913307

it will happen, and it will happen within our lifetimes. we can see it coming from here, but those in power are too enamoured with their short term gains to care


 No.2913368

File: db5a46ef396940f⋯.jpg (61.46 KB, 930x717, 310:239, 4278887b3239a48e20eeee3d57….jpg)

>>2913358

Chinese tanks cooperate with Casa Pound in breaking Italian communes, while all good communists cheer the antiimperialist alliance, BUT

Supreme bordigaist praxis finally reaches ascension and as Komm, süßer Tod is playing Europe reaches Leftcom Instrumentality.


 No.2913370

>>2913358

Yeah, I'm swinging between "first world proletariat is a joke" and "first world proletariat is our only hope". Sadly both of these things can be true at the same time.


 No.2913373

File: cfc983213c27d76⋯.gif (1.41 MB, 636x266, 318:133, 47042D40-DE7A-4B6E-97BF-C1….gif)

File: a9c95bb02b27590⋯.gif (1.04 MB, 498x211, 498:211, DF7D57CC-126A-4156-8BEC-7F….gif)

>>2913370

Luke Skywalker was both a joke and the only hope


 No.2913396

>>2913373

so basically the first world proletariat will be forced to mature and fight through a laborious and difficult process, but will be a hero once it does. not a bad analogy.


 No.2916541

so….. is it dead?


 No.2916556

>>2916541

No but it has lost steam, the government hasn't addressed the crisis either so when people get their energy back it's gonna start up again I think. Redspark had a pretty good interview on the subject.

https://www.redspark.nu/en/theory/redspark-interview-2-on-the-yellow-vests-movement/


 No.2916731

isn't there another assembly of assemblies planned sometime soon?


 No.2916910

>>2916731

there was a third one but don't have much info on how it went. What I have seen is a plan for a massive blockage on the 22nd. Crossing my fingers.

>>2913370

I feel similarly, specially about USA's proletariat.


 No.2917109

>>2913246

>from its usual left-leaning readers

just no.

Le Monde's readership is macronist through and through. these people despise the poor. they just think they're "left" because they don't like Le Pen.


 No.2917111

https://www.revolutionpermanente.fr/La-France-Insoumise-la-crise-s-eternise-les-divergences-s-expriment-au-grand-jour

Des opinions sur cette histoire ? Est-ce que l'opposition "populisme vs union des gauches" a un sens à votre avis ?


 No.2917122

>>2913396

>>2913373

It's worth noting that Luke Skywalker too, was a citizen of the Empire, who admitted he hated it, and yet was readying himself to go become an Imperial pilot.

I honestly feel sorry for Mark Hamill though.


 No.2920501

File: f5f2f500a008f11⋯.jpg (314.99 KB, 2543x1185, 2543:1185, Screenshot_2019-06-19 Gile….jpg)

Hey folks, have you seen this documentary?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MjuoDpKLfI


 No.2920543

>>2913291

Mao was not right about everything.


 No.2920784

File: 11538feda27c6f7⋯.png (3.09 MB, 2828x2244, 707:561, oeuef.png)

>>2892976

Pretty fucked up, yes. But they could have been all been murdered like the students protesting in Tienanmen Square.

France, like all other democratic western countries, will do anything to protect their power from protesters and revolutionaries, but let's not ignore how much more brutal the suppression could be, and is in other parts of the world (especially countries that had Leninist vanguards).


 No.2922480

Have seen some blockage action today, not sure how large it was. They tried to block the subway but it was too packed with porkies. There is really not much they can still do in direct action, a different plan is needed.


 No.2922515

>>2922480

So is it over for the Gilette Johnnies? I guess Eurps are no good at protrsting after all.


 No.2923575

File: 6263d57b980b1b2⋯.jpg (45.93 KB, 334x550, 167:275, eris.jpg)

>>2859071

Invest in a groin protector , If I can spot that obvious weak point in less than a second then so will other people who will show you that not having one is a mistake with an ' impromptu practical demonstration.' .

TL;DR: buy a groin protector unless you enjoy having having your nuts kicked.


 No.2924359

bump


 No.2935544

Have you seen this?

https://montceau.assembleesdesgiletsjaunes.fr/2019/07/05/syntheses-des-groupes-du-matin/

The third assemblée des assemblées took place and those are some of their resolutions. I'm sure they are juicy, the movement got less kino but is still active af. They need support, we have to at least keep discussing this.

Also pics are not links and I can't read shit of what it says, lol.


 No.2935556

>>2935544

Interesting. I wonder if a French anon could help us with this, especially the portion about capitalism.


 No.2935680

>>2912647

the GJ radicalized and politized a lot of people, just you wait for the next big crisis and there will serious trouble


 No.2935682

>>2917109

this, le monde is not left leaning in any sense of the word (well, except they like idpol)


 No.2935696

>>2935556

annoying as fuck to read, as it wasn't enough to not take notes on a computer, you have to zoom in or edit the url of images, ffs guyz

first one the RIP (the current referendum citizen can trigger, we have one going about privatizing Aeroport de Paris) they want to campaign on it even if they acknowldge the whole process is fucked/ultimately useless, just as a tool for marketing about privatizations and RIC

capitalism : how to make the issues with it more apparent and engage people in analysis about it. use the social angle and local struggles as examples, brief mention of financial/money system.

During vote, 4 people say we must reform capitalism, 28 say we must get out of it

Emphasis on the urgency, social, societal and environnemental. Use french republic values against capitalism values.Opposition to growth. Try to participate in debates where you can talk about it. And a list of potential actions to do

ACL: local citizen assemblies, try to set them up to discuss politics and inform people

that's all for now cause their site is annoying me


 No.2935803

>>2935696

Thank you based froganon. Seems like the GJ has only gotten more based with time. I think the idea of using the Republic's own supposed values against capital is the right way to go.


 No.2937801

pretty lit. Thanks! Are you going to participate in the 14/7?


 No.2939849


 No.2939988

File: fe17a5eaee6e527⋯.mp4 (2.43 MB, 352x640, 11:20, Gilets Jaunes using Firewo….mp4)


 No.2940604


 No.2940642

>>2939988

Based beyond belief


 No.2940787

File: b06b19e1d231380⋯.jpg (6.31 KB, 224x185, 224:185, dubiouscat.jpg)

File: 6915fb5ed7c7f82⋯.jpg (198.61 KB, 519x497, 519:497, 1337111488308.jpg)

File: 2041481ef450af9⋯.jpg (15.14 KB, 411x412, 411:412, doubtful rabbit.jpg)


 No.2940833

File: ea8c54b71d149cf⋯.png (1.53 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, 7455w4g1u5s01.png)

>>2940787

Imagine just being raped with an SKS by a human drone fleet


 No.2942536




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