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 No.2783203

>be me

>constantly study Marxist literature

>actually labor in shitty factory

>join Union secretly against employers wishes

>own guns

>get on Facebook

>join some random socialist group

>someone posts meme about LGBT feeding idpol to everyone

>comment: “that shits annoying fr”

>get banned

>someone messages me

>get called fascist by “trans-anarchist guy with pink hair, disabled under occupation on profile

>log off Facebook

 No.2783206

>fedbook

not even once


 No.2783212

>>2783206

Yeah. Pretty rarted if you ask me


 No.2783218

Spam was accident btw please don’t ban.


 No.2783223

Nice blogpost. Read Althusser.


 No.2783224

>>2783223

Excellent will check it out.


 No.2783226

reminder that the Reagan administration rejected homosexuality as a mental condition and put "gender dysphoria" as a diagnosis in its place.


 No.2783228

>>2783203

Yes, it’s irritating, but you need to have thicker skin.

I have this stereotypical troon anarchist as a friend on fedbook (anime/LiS profile pics, puts no effort into even looking trans (you would legit have trouble telling that this guy was a tranny much less a woman), claims to be a “translesbian”, talks about his “girldick”, also claims to be autistic because why the fuck not, etc) and I just straight up snooze his posts half the time (partially because Facebook thinks I want to see everything this guy posts). Just ignore it.


 No.2783230

>>2783228

When America goes to shit I hope there's a way we can keep these fuckers there. I don't want them trooning up my fucking country even though they'll probably be murdered by feral youths since it's the UK.


 No.2783235

>>2783228

Yeah you’re probably right, i just dunno how to talk or relate to people like that i guess.


 No.2783237

>>2783230

Was hoping y’all would take them, they have forever alienated the bulk of the working class away from socialism in the US.


 No.2783241

>>2783226

A lot of tranny activists have problems with rad feminism exactly because of this issue. They claim that the US state paid for gender reassignment surgery until an alliance of feminists and conservatives in the early 80s brought an end to it.

In Islamic Iran, they are fine with transsexuals I believe the Iranian state will even pay for it as a “cure” for homosexuality


 No.2783247

>>2783203

This is a low-effort, garbage post that already affirms what everyone else here already believes. Delete Facebook because it's fucking terrible and get back to doing something useful with your union instead of coming here to whine about morons who believe in ridiculous shit. This exact thread pops up at least once a month but with slight differences, and every time people here and dumb enough to engage and tell OP the obvious (that these people are stupid and Idpol is dumb).


 No.2783254

>>2783247

This might sound like bullshit but I have always heard of Leftypol but I didn’t know it was a community of people that were anti-idpol

I literally thought I was alone on this and even considered just not being a communist anymore after being viciously fucked over in discord after stating how I felt. So my bad.


 No.2783257

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File: a08141dd05b658f⋯.png (246.1 KB, 1361x545, 1361:545, 19566a0e6fc61037b90d55574d….png)

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>>2783254

>I have always heard of Leftypol but I didn’t know it was a community of people that were anti-idpol

Honestly surprised by that, because its sort of our shtick by now and its why we don't get along with certain other leftist spaces.


 No.2783260

>>2783257

When I was in discord before in The Socialist Server, people told me it was just a place where people LARP as authoritarian communists.


 No.2783261

>>2783257

Also thanks for pictures, nice information. Came here looking for stuff like that.


 No.2783302

>>2783260

unfortunately that’s actually true.


 No.2783349

>>2783302

What do you mean?


 No.2783362

90% of "leftists" on the internet are just liberals with a red fetish


 No.2783368

>>2783302

t. anarkid


 No.2783395

>>2783254

Hey buddy, if you use 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧reddit🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 then be sure to check out /r/StupidPol and /r/cumtown and /r/FullCommunism and /r/Communism. These are the subs least infected by left liberals and anarkiddies, the first two are anti-idpol. There is hope…


 No.2783404

>>2783203

socialism in america and western europe literally just means "acting like a faggot" (sadly)

you could be organising a site-wide strike at a steel mill while preaching to your co-workers about wage theft as you hand out copies of "what is to be done" but if you're not a skinnyfat queer with self-diagnosed PTSD from breaking up with your ex-girlfriend (who has a penis) or some kike wearing too much makeup, obnoxiously high heels, and glasses as big as your oversized nose then honey you aren't doing real socialism

> muh class reductionism, muh brocialism, muh communism


 No.2783405

>>2783395

>cumtown and /r/FullCommunism

absolutely disgusting

>/r/Communism

idpol and mtwism


 No.2783477

>>2783404

Don't know why you would hand out "what is to be done" during a strike. I mean unless the point of the strike is that you really really feel the need to start an all-russia newspaper.


 No.2783478

>>2783405

r/communism is a lot more dengist than MTW


 No.2783489

>>2783477

It was a rhetorical device not meant literally


 No.2783491

>>2783489

I know, I'm just being an ass, and I find it funny just how much "what is to be done" talks about newspapers. Really explains the trot obsession with newspapers though.


 No.2783510

>Facebook


 No.2783559

>>2783368

I’m not. you probably think anyone who calls the DPRK capitalist is an anarkid, a testament to my point.

>>2783349

just be careful criticizing anything MLs ever did otherwise you’ll get b&


 No.2783661

File: 5c539f2f26393f0⋯.jpg (47.65 KB, 600x485, 120:97, arguecat.jpg)

This blogpost made me feel sick.


 No.2783964

File: f6feff44ca94d86⋯.jpeg (1.02 MB, 878x1275, 878:1275, A45FC9EF-09EC-4FCE-8EE7-6….jpeg)

>>2783559

I am an ML so I think I’ll get along just fine in here.


 No.2784064

I wanna know what you guys think about the LGBT+ because Im getting mixed signals.

http://www.strawpoll.me/17213143


 No.2784067

>>2784064

99% of people don't give a shit as long as you don't make it your identity. For example I'm bi but I never talk about it because 99% of the time (now not included), it's just not relevant. Of course LGBT people should be treated equally and free from discrimination.


 No.2784080

>>2784067

Love to get half way through signing up for Momentum and then close the window half way when it turns out I'll get passed over for promotions due to being white and male, but won't if I tell them my sexuality. So much for to each according to his ability.


 No.2784082

>>2784080

What a stupid post.


 No.2784083

>>2784067

Thanks for your input, and I feel this is the same for most but some times I read some /pol/ tier comments about trannies and was confused.q


 No.2784086

>>2784082

More like the trufax.


 No.2784091

>>2783203

>Facebook

>I made a post about being angry at gay people and people said I was homophobic!!! DD:

kys


 No.2784093

>>2784083

Well there are some /pol/luters lurking around here but most of the legitimately crypto-fascists pretending to be leftists congregate on /leftpol/. Don't visit that board, it's utter shit.


 No.2784112

>>2784091

I didn’t make the post ni🅱️🅱️a. Can you read?


 No.2784168

>>2783257

>muh Hillary

>Black Lives Matter disrupt Bernie Sanders

Dumb brocialist radlib

Not saying Clinton didn't fix the DNC or that she even should have been legally allowed to run for president. But Clinton appropriating feminism doesn't automatically make all feminist principles idpol


 No.2784312

>>2783257

I hate to say it, but in your last pic Hillary is not exactly wrong, but breaking up the banks would be a step in the right direction. Also lol @ muh Bernie being disrupted by BLM, which is a social movement anyone can say they’re a member of. Weird how you include BLM near a thing on COINTELPRO, because if anything is getting the COINTELPRO treatment it would be BLM, a movement with legitiment grievances only a reactionary would deny. The US government has been systematically targeting any movement for the true betterment of Black people for decades but in the retard brocialist brain Blacks getting upset at being brutalized in internal colonies is a creation of the government.


 No.2785091

>>2783223

people like you should be banned.


 No.2785375

>>2784112

Oh sorry let me correct myself

>Facebook

>someone makes a post about being angry at gay people

>I say I agree

>they call me homophobic and I get banned DDD:

kys in slightly different circumstances


 No.2785443

>>2784168

>>2784312

>brocialist

>black power

how does it make sense to subdivide the oppressed proletariat? i cant help but see this as subversive. plus these stupid liberal ideas are entirely establishment.


 No.2785467

>>2783241

>In Islamic Iran, they are fine with transsexuals I believe the Iranian state will even pay for it as a “cure” for homosexuality

I've heard about this before, but how would that even work. Wouldn't that be the same as admitting Allah makes mistakes?


 No.2785892

>>2785467

Allah makes mistakes, Muhammad however didn't made any mistakes. I'm not joking, this is canon.


 No.2785918

>>2785892

You know nothing. Back to /pol/


 No.2785948

>>2785443

>black power means "le fuck whitey"

Stop being retarded. The Panthers came from Black Power as well as the NJM in Grenada


 No.2787191

>>2783228

Autogynophelia is so fucking gross tbh. I can sympathize with gender non-conforming people who experience dysphoria, but for a lot of them it's CLEARLY a fetish. Getting hard when you put on panties and a bra isn't "gender euphoria." Trans women is pretty much blackface for women; there's no way for someone born a man to understand what the experience of a woman is like, and vice versa. You can't just pick and choose how you are socialized.

The idea that being a man or woman can be reduced to a feeling is incredibly idealist, and completely ignores the fact that patriarchal societal relations are a direct result of women's biology and the exploitation of reproductive and emotional labor. Men didn't just get together and decide to start oppressing women all of the sudden.

Sorry if this wall of text is kinda disorganized,


 No.2787197

>>2787191

I completely agree. Thanks for this post comrade.


 No.2787270

>>2783203

You realize you got baited into idpol by just participating in that discussion right? And now I'm getting baited into it just to tell you not to get baited into it. Idpol is about nothing more than creating a distraction and wasting your time and energy.


 No.2787273

>>2787191

I agree with you anon even though I have the fetish but I'm under no delusions about it being real


 No.2787445

>>2784064

We all are of the opinion that persecution based on sexuality is a bourgeois tactic to divide the proles, but at the same time so is elevating one’s identity based on sexuality and gender above class solidarity. Being anti idpol means being oppose to homophobia and transphobia, because these are themselves forms of idpol.


 No.2787458

>>2783203

>be OP

>thinks he's exempt from criticism because he has a job

>joining facebook groups in the first place


 No.2787516

File: 0c6382efbe681ea⋯.jpg (65.95 KB, 1200x624, 25:13, trans man in women's bathr….jpg)

>>2787191

>I can sympathize with gender non-conforming people who experience dysphoria, but for a lot of them it's CLEARLY a fetish. >Trans women is pretty much blackface for women; there's no way for someone born a man to understand what the experience of a woman is like, and vice versa. You can't just pick and choose how you are socialized.

Trans people often reject their gender socialization at a young age. So you either believe that people suffer from dysphoria are legitimate, or you believe that you can't change genders despite literally decades of scientific evidence suggesting that you can. Also, muh socialized as male is a pretty weak-ass excuse when trans and gay male children are ostensibly never treated like men – ever, except in the rare cases where they have accepting families or they've managed to start passing.

>The idea that being a man or woman can be reduced to a feeling is incredibly idealist, and completely ignores the fact that patriarchal societal relations are a direct result of women's biology and the exploitation of reproductive and emotional labor.

I've heard people use "class reductionist" to describe Marxists who want to see revolution, but it really seems to fit here when you don't have the slightest understanding of how patriarchy affects everyone, not just cis women. But playing the victim when material realities suggest you're not at the bare bottom of society reeks of privilege if I ever saw it.

>Getting hard when you put on panties and a bra isn't "gender euphoria."

I'm honestly convinced this is something radlibs made up to dunk on trans people, which is why all the Reddit posts that find their way here have like three upvotes max.


 No.2787520

File: 0a420ce7d60a5b7⋯.png (26.56 KB, 681x259, 681:259, Capture _2019-01-14-19-33-….png)

>>2784064

Isn't this the literal definition of homophobia?

>I don't want to think about this gross-ass subject


 No.2787522

>>2787520

The options are limited but I picked it in lieu of a "I don't want social climbing retards coming in and talking about it 24/7 and grifting for special treatment due to their minority status" option


 No.2787531

>>2787191

>You can't just pick and choose how you are socialized

Do you seriously believe that most trans women were actual socialized as men? No, they got shit on for being girly.


 No.2787534

>>2787522

Well I think we'd all select that one now wouldn't we.


 No.2787537

>>2787534

I mean I get the impression they're the same thing in America.


 No.2787539

>>2787537

Most people in America are still anti-LGBT and won't stand up for LGBT comrades while using the "well it's fine behind closed doors" excuse.


 No.2787542

File: 8a29efc302c93b7⋯.png (71.21 KB, 737x457, 737:457, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2787539

Maybe they should knock it off with their constant wrecking?


 No.2787543

>>2783203

>muh complaining about IDPOOOL thread #1636272717

can't we just ban all "idpol" discussion already and stop pretending it's a real issue


 No.2787551

>>2787543

Back to reddit faggot.


 No.2787557

>>2787542

Quit blocking off gay comrades, then, and instead try to get them in like we do for Nazis


 No.2787558

>>2787557

Nobody blocks them off you delusional retard, the problem is they're accepted at face value as "good, folx" when they're largely a bunch of liberal wreckers and chancers.


 No.2787559

>>2787557

>try to get them in

h-hot


 No.2787564

File: ecc19d37e5ab137⋯.gif (1.88 MB, 480x264, 20:11, thonkpocalypse.gif)

>>2787558

>the problem is they're accepted at face value as "good, folx" when they're largely a bunch of liberal wreckers and chancers.

<but I'm not a homophobe


 No.2787568

>>2787564

Yup. That tactic only works on twitter you retarded faggot.


 No.2787570

File: 04174092d8dd193⋯.png (110.72 KB, 238x276, 119:138, 04174092d8dd1933085371c558….png)

>>2787568

No by all means keep demonstrating who you really are, other /leftypol/lacks my get it after seeing you embarass yourself.


 No.2787573

>>2787570

>other /leftypol/lacks

lol.

>me: LGBT caucuses and members engage in too much wrecking

<you: no, you do it, because nazis

>no

<fucking homophobe confirmed

Lay off the hormones you enby retard.


 No.2787577

>>2787573

>[LGBT people]largely a bunch of liberal wreckers and chancers.

>me: LGBT caucuses and members engage in too much wrecking

Nice try bud, that's not intellectual dishonesty.

>you: no, you do it, because nazis

Who are you quoting?

>fucking homophobe confirmed

<say all gay people do [thing]

<get called a homophobe

<say all black people do [thing]

<get called a racist

wtf guys


 No.2787582

>>2787577

>Who are you quoting?

This complete and utter incoherent retard here >>2787557

>[LGBT people]largely a bunch of liberal wreckers and chancers.

>me: LGBT caucuses and members engage in too much wrecking

Where's the lie?

>get assmad that my minority pet is getting called out for their unending onslaught of wrecking

>get told to fuck off back to reddit

Fuck off back to reddit :^)


 No.2787584

>>2787582

Tfw people don't realize gender dysphoria is caused by gender roles, and body shapes


 No.2787585

>>2784064

I don't know about anyone else here, but I'd prefer if people not talk about sex shit at all. Period. Gay and straight.


 No.2787586

>>2787582

>Quit blocking off gay comrades, then, and instead try to get them in like we do for Nazis

>this statement anywhere at all implies that /leftypol/ is "wrecking"

Really makes ya think.

>get assmad that my minority pet is getting called out for their unending onslaught of wrecking

<minorities are all bad because idpol exists

Really roasts my raisins.


 No.2787589

>>2787584

>Nobody respond to my post

LAUGHS IN BI


 No.2787591

>>2787586

>this statement anywhere at all implies that /leftypol/ is "wrecking"

No, this statement is borderline nonsense so maybe you should clarify what you mean in case I've missed your point.

><minorities are all bad because idpol exists

No? Like 80% of leftypol is bisexual/trans, they aren't bad because they're bisexual/trans, and they're double not bad because they don't engage in an endless stream of wrecking.


 No.2787593

>>2787591

Thanks for backpedaling, it shows genuine remorse.


 No.2787601

>>2787593

It shows you've been fighting a strawman because you're retarded and apparently needed what I said rewording to ESL friendly tier phrases for your simple mind to wrap itself around my Jupiterian thoughts.

Protip: "Largely" in English means "mostly"


 No.2787612

>>2787601

>unironically using ESL as a strawman

What is this, 2013 /m/? The best part is you've been having an autistic shit-fit about a sentence you were literally unable to understand instead of being able to read it. Let me spell it out for you so your learning disability won't get in the way:

wHy DoN't We TrY cOnVeRtInG gAy PeOpLe To CoMmUnIsM iNsTeAd Of BlAmInG gAy PeOpLe FoR bEiNg DiScRiMiNaTeD aGaInSt

>but he said the n word

You're deluded if you think half this board isn't expatriated from /pol/

>making sweeping statements about groups isn't an example of prejudice against that group

<saying "most blacks do crime" isn't racist

Holy shit I gotta go tell my friends


 No.2787621

>>2787612

>BlAmInG gAy PeOpLe FoR bEiNg DiScRiMiNaTeD aGaInSt

It's like you're so retarded you cannot understand that I want them to stop wrecking and the only reason "most" Americans now oppose them (which wasn't true several years ago) is because they're the most confrontational and insufferable cunts in the English speaking world - the primary way that they engage in wrecking.

>You're deluded if you think half this board isn't expatriated from /pol/

The eternal redditor strikes again.

>>making sweeping statements about groups isn't an example of prejudice against that group

><saying "most blacks do crime" isn't racist

>Holy shit I gotta go tell my friends

Stop wrecking you insufferable faggot.


 No.2787631

>>2787621

>It's like you're so retarded you cannot understand that I want them to stop wrecking and the only reason "most" Americans now oppose them (which wasn't true several years ago) is because they're the most confrontational and insufferable cunts in the English speaking world - the primary way that they engage in wrecking.

Are you retarded or did you actually write that thinking that you weren't proving my point?

>telling people to go to Reddit for actually reading /leftypol/

How are you this new?

>Stop wrecking you insufferable faggot.

SHUT IT DOWN! THE SECTARIAN KNOWS!


 No.2787633

File: 91ebfbc03ad1707⋯.png (76.01 KB, 300x300, 1:1, 91ebfbc03ad170760a0bfefe55….png)

>>2787621

>wrecking is when you hurt my feelings


 No.2787634

>>2787591

>Like 80% of leftypol is bisexual/trans

I think last poll showed around 5% Trans. I will admit though, there were a lot of Bisexuals, like 30% to 40%.


 No.2787641

>>2787631

>Are you retarded or did you actually write that thinking that you weren't proving my point?

I wrote it not giving a shit about your instinctual urge to yikes your retarded little brain out.

>How are you this new?

Keep being illiterate (for the nth post in a row). Only redditors think the majority of the board is /pol/ converts.

>>2787633

The only hurt feelings here seem to be from a pair of liberal retards who are upset they're getting called out for the major contribution of the "LGBT community" in recent years being little more than wrecking, wrecking and wrecking.


 No.2787645

File: 6a3e811373b0b21⋯.jpg (56.25 KB, 385x354, 385:354, 6a3e811373b0b213969839c925….jpg)

>>2787641

>half is the majority

>retard retard retard

>everyone I disagree with is a liberal

He's out of arguments, boys.


 No.2787648

>>2787591

>No? Like 80% of leftypol is bisexual/trans,

Probably like 80% bi and 5% trans. Bisexuality is pretty “normal” (in terms of occurence) in the general population whether they admit it or not but I’m sure trannies are overrepresented on imageboards


 No.2787650

>>2787645

Sorry did you at some point have something to respond to beyond numerous yikesings, crying about homophobia, regurgitating twitter memes and getting mad at your own inability to read?

Can you redirect me to the argument?


 No.2787652

>>2787650

>pointing out homophobia is crying about it

>claims twitter memes without a screenshot because he doesn't have a point

>muh yikes

<I'M NOT MAD! I'M NOT!


 No.2787661

File: ad65ba8ebb199fe⋯.png (5.94 KB, 783x18, 87:2, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2787652

Here's your screenshot, you strange little enby.

There's a reason 44% of the board when polled would like you to shut the fuck up.


 No.2787671

>>2787661

What's an enby? Why do you keep trying to justify your actual homophobia? But more importantly,

SHUT IT DOWN


 No.2787674

>>2787671

>SHUT IT DOWN

Yes, fellow memers, we are le 4chon army. Not reddit.


 No.2787678

File: 6cfba5f9acfb7e4⋯.png (867.06 KB, 1024x707, 1024:707, 1c55ba36bafd6d7afaaaeb207b….png)


 No.2787720

lmao

>I'm a big leftist

>not big enough for other leftists

toxic ideologies make you act toxic. Who knew?


 No.2788354

File: 4a0fcab3751b244⋯.png (412.02 KB, 1533x635, 1533:635, zidpol.png)

>>2787558

this is why we need a screening process: a test for socialist I.Q. (tests knowledge of socialism, like 'define socialism in your own words', 'who was the first person to call themself an anarchist', etc entry-level questions every socialist should know, and a dress code like that other anon said.

if they fail the requirements they must take a couple of course, provided by the socialist org, free of charge and by a senior member, to train them, retake the test and if pass be allowed into the org. lets be honest, walk-ins quickly fill up with liberals. We need a screening process people, come the fuck on.


 No.2788527

>>2788354

Also need a dress and morality code so the pink haired pot smoking de.generate lumpen don't join the party.


 No.2788536

>>2788527

Get off my board you fuckin boomer


 No.2788543

>>2788536

Spurdo status: DABBED ON [x]


 No.2789911

>>2787531

Yes? Because before they were trans, before they could even talk, society was already treating them like a Little Man and putting those expectations of manhood on them?

Small, innocuous stuff like when you scrape your knee and cry and your dad picks you up and says "hey, don't cry, does Superman cry? Does Batman cry?" when you're fucking 2 years old.

That's socialization. It's constant.


 No.2789912

>>2787191

>incredibly idealist

Ty for saying this. Idealism has no place in serious Marxist analysis. It's not just wrong, it actively hurts women and the labour movement. Disgusting.


 No.2789914

>>2784064

>LGB

Good

>T+

Bad

Where's that option on your poll


 No.2789926

File: 5c7a2c4bfb4c5eb⋯.jpg (25.28 KB, 320x320, 1:1, 667717-scathan_8.jpg)


 No.2789935

>>2789926

i demand we annex r/complete anarchy, or r/iww merely for a new platform


 No.2789953

>>2789911

which is why you act dress like another socially expected position (Likely long hair), and chop off your dick so you can wear socially expected under garments more effectively, and feel more feminine.

Abolish gender roles

>>2789935 one of the first posts is reeeing about muh terfs


 No.2789968

>>2789953

>and chop off your dick so you can wear socially expected under garments more effectively, and feel more feminine.

That's not how any of this works


 No.2789970

File: 3929d6cabc19389⋯.png (422.99 KB, 700x700, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2789953

Can't be a TERF or a SWERF if I'm not a feminist.


 No.2790224

>>2789968

Yeah you're supposed to be a stay-at-home gamer eBegging for venmo & paypal so you can get hormones and fund your gaming/anime addiction


 No.2790605

>>2783203

What are your thoughts on strict border protection. Wouldn't that be good for workers?




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