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File: 07827dad3a56ab9⋯.jpg (23.37 KB, 443x599, 443:599, Leader of Progressive Mank….jpg)

 No.2785083

>Goes on a diet

>Gets a proper sleep schedule

>Stops purging the doctors keeping him alive

>Stops being so paranoid about his privacy

>Lives to 102

What happens next, anti-revisionist, Furr-reading, Stalin Did Nothing Wrong MLs of leftypol? Would he purge the revisionists? Would we be living under world socialism by now?

 No.2785094

Stalin was already ill by the end of WWII. The war and reconstruction period really took a toll on his health, he wouldn't have lived much longer.


 No.2785101

>>2785094

Having guards that were afraid to check up on him while he had a stroke certainly contributed to his demise, if he had received early treatment he might have survived.


 No.2785114

>>2785101

Good point, but Mao's life was just as stressful and dude lived until the 70's.


 No.2785124

>>2785114

cuz mao was chinese tbh


 No.2785128

Stalin was right to be paranoid. How the fucking couldn't you be in his position? Saboteurs in every corner and fascist hordes on every border, not to mention that western states were LITERALLY making plans to nuke the USSR to rubble after the end of WW2.


 No.2785420

He should have killed any doctor in the country years and years before, sometimes an amin dada styled move can save socialism.


 No.2785491

Impossible to say, although it would seem likely that the collapse of the soviet union will be delayed by a significant amount or even prevented, depending on who takes charge after Stalin dies in 1980. Worst case scenario is that the cult of personality and purges grow to a ridiculous amount as Stalins paranoia increases due to his age taking a toll on his mental health, which could also lead to him becoming a puppet to some other leader.


 No.2785955

>>2785101

not really. stroke reversal treatments were only invented like, what, 1980s? even then they have to be implemented within 3 hours of treatment. At very least he would have lived with minor deficits, either motor or neural ones. Nothing could also be done to prevent larger strokes from happening either at that time if I'm not mistaken. The first type of primitive medicines for that were made in the 1950s and aspirin wasn't used till the 1970s as a preventative measure for heart disease and stroke (even though it was mass produced since early 1900s)


 No.2785958

I think a better question is what would've happened if Lenin had lived til 1944. What would've gone differently that way?


 No.2785962

>>2785083

he was murdered by poisoning

anyone else but ad hominems?


 No.2785963

File: 1f5f5439537bbbe⋯.pdf (894.08 KB, StalinDemocrat1.pdf)

File: f1ad5e0c50dc7a6⋯.pdf (635.35 KB, StalinDemocrat2.pdf)


 No.2785964

>>2785962

*anything


 No.2785966

File: 2d787482828a694⋯.png (1.3 MB, 815x1462, 815:1462, 2d787482828a6949a53fbfaa69….png)

>>2785083

>how great would it be if the man of steel Stalin was still here!

>>2785958

>how fucking awesome would it be if fucking Lenin himself slaughtered the Germans!!

Lads what about Marx finishing das kapital.


 No.2786070

>>2785966

I would've loved to see the reaction of those german niggers that helped the bolsheviks during the revolution thinking they could use them as puppets and then 20 years later get absolutely btfo'd by the soviets.


 No.2786078

>>2785955

>implying he actually had a stroke and wasn't poisoned


 No.2786722

File: f8e3838771080fd⋯.jpg (35.76 KB, 509x308, 509:308, Pol-Pot.jpg)

>Trusting doctors.


 No.2786724

>>2786722

>>2785083

Nice great man history.


 No.2786729

>>2785101

Why were they afraid?


 No.2786815

>>2786724

I'm going to start a thread about coal production in 1935 and how it inevitably led to K-Pop.


 No.2786870

There was a guy who lasted until his like 100's and was with Stalin.

He should've been made leader.


 No.2786882

>>2786729

because that's the retarded bs liberals are pulling out of their ass to make "sense" out of their nonsense


 No.2788413

>>2786882

This. Never seen anu sauce for that bullshit claim. I have even heard people claim he faked getting a heart attack or something and then executing the guards that "disobeyed" his supposed order


 No.2788415

>>2785083

Alt-history is so fucking lame


 No.2788430

>>2786722

>trusting the CIA


 No.2788438

I don't know, economic growth was already slowing down in his last years, so he probably would have implemented the same reforms that Krushchev and Brezhnev did. Stalin wasn't some hardcore anti-revisionist Maoists and Hoxhaists make him out to be, he was quite pragmatic in his policies. For example, he supported the NEP against collectivisation, and then collectivised when the NEP was no longer useful, etc.

He also wasn't as belligerent with the West as people claim he was, he wouldn't have invaded West Germany or whatever. Mao certainly would have if he was in his position.


 No.2790882

>>2785083

Stalin didn't "purge" the doctors. No-one knows who did it for sure, but Stalin was heavily skeptical of the claims.


 No.2791115

File: be2d86b705a1395⋯.jpg (291.52 KB, 1642x750, 821:375, s.jpg)

Stalin dying early doesn't effect anything, him not having a good successor is his problem.

If he just wasn't so fucking paranoid and surround himself with with strong smart men rather than weak yes men, or if Trotsky led USSR rather than Stalin it would have a much better run.


 No.2791134

File: 8f7ba7607eff54d⋯.png (375.57 KB, 422x599, 422:599, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2786870

Lazar Kaganovich

>Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich (Russian: Лазарь Моисеевич Каганович; 22 November [O.S. 10 November] 1893 – 25 July 1991) was a Soviet politician and administrator and one of the main associates of Joseph Stalin. He is known for helping Stalin seize power, for his role in the Soviet famine of 1932–33 in Ukraine, and for his harsh treatment and execution of those deemed threats to Stalin's regime.

>At his death in 1991, he was the last surviving Old Bolshevik.[1] The Soviet Union itself outlived him by a mere five months.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazar_Kaganovich


 No.2791151

>>2791134

He should've seriously been made the Leader.


 No.2791276

>>2791134

>He is known for helping Stalin seize power, for his role in the Soviet famine of 1932–33 in Ukraine, and for his harsh treatment and execution of those deemed threats to Stalin's regime.

hmmmm this seems unbiased


 No.2791285

>>2791276

It's bullshit, according to their standards every Soviet citizen that supported the government under Stalin was "known for helping Stalin seize power, for their role in the Soviet famine of 1932–33 in Ukraine, and for their harsh treatment and execution of those deemed threats to Stalin's regime."


 No.2791287

>>2791134

Kaganovich was suffering from dementia his last two decades, I doubt he could have led the USSR up until his death.

To be honest, Malenkov should have stayed in power. He was trying to improve the production and allocation of consumer goods, which was denounced as "Stalinist" by Cornholio (lmao). He also tried to rehabilitate the victims of the Great Purge which was probably the right thing to do. I'd imagine under Malenkov, the USSR would have had better economic growth while enjoying increased civil liberties whereas Kaganovich would have been a bitch about it. The only problem with Malenkov was his lukewarm stance on the West, but this is something he shares with Stalin somewhat (Greece, etc.).


 No.2791328

File: 72dbb0b558383ba⋯.png (994.17 KB, 1000x827, 1000:827, khrushchev gun.png)

>>2791287

>Malenkov

>against socialist nuclear proliferation

>in favor of giving up the DDR

haha fuck no

"muh consumer goods" is a literal meme, I don't know why you idiots keep falling for it


 No.2791477

>>2785966

Based Marx. Remove thots.


 No.2791650

>>2791287

literal trot tier "if x person came to power everything would have been different."


 No.2792222

>> 2785083

I'm pretty sure Stalin died at age 74, no 102


 No.2792223

*not 102 I mean, obvs




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