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File: a4dd453fd656b5f⋯.jpg (94.85 KB, 1200x675, 16:9, Rosa.jpg)

 No.2785088

>Thousands to mark the deaths of Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht in Berlin this weekend

The communist leaders were murdered on the orders of authorities keen to crush the growth of the German revolutionary movement on January 15 1919

HOUSANDS from across the world will gather in Berlin this weekend to mark the 100th anniversary of the murder of revolutionaries Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht.

Communists will lead a march to the Friedrichsfelde Cemetery in the east of the city and red roses will be placed on their gravestones in their memory.

The pair, who were leaders of the German Communist Party, were murdered by the right-wing reactionary troops known as the Freikorps on January 15 1919 by authorities keen to crush the growth of a revolutionary movement.

Organisers called for a large mobilisation, with “the fanatical evil spirit of their murderers celebrating a malign resurrection in many places in Germany and Europe.”

They said the murder of the revolutionary leaders helped pave the way for “Hitler’s Brownshirts” and the emergence of fascism in Germany.

But in a statement organisers condemned capitalist forces for creating conditions where “65 million are on the run, between inflatable boats and barrier fences.” Issuing a call to join the protest, they said they rejected “Fortress Europe.”

“We want a world of peace, solidarity and a life worth living on all continents. We think that is possible, in spite of all.”

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/thousands-to-mark-the-deaths-of-rosa-luxemburg-and-karl-liebknecht-in-berlin?fbclid=IwAR2rcM4EUoUzku74ylRRj3_nYFal7KB_tUUobHyihW_kNKsS0iTyZRUYNQE

 No.2785092

File: 79262bcefc110d1⋯.jpg (71.44 KB, 735x1103, 735:1103, 1af94df9a881c75a715035e616….jpg)

File: cfc60369dcbbd52⋯.png (185.65 KB, 768x736, 24:23, 0d2e5208cc73220efafe0f3298….png)

F


 No.2785115

A FUCKING ROSE


 No.2785132

>>2785088

>>2785092

Rose killing rose


 No.2785201

S

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 No.2785203

>Liebknecht

literally who


 No.2785210

File: d5b67a28e49597c⋯.jpg (25.52 KB, 448x412, 112:103, 1526149110869.jpg)


 No.2785211

File: 250b518875fe20c⋯.jpg (65.68 KB, 606x602, 303:301, 250b518875fe20c65e05ce80cb….jpg)

>>2785203

He was the leader of the Spartacists but has pretty much been overshadowed by Rosa


 No.2785223

File: 8b614502698196d⋯.png (123.56 KB, 960x960, 1:1, 8b614502698196db7aaa7c4ef3….png)


 No.2785234

>>2785203

Liebknecht was part of the left wing of the SPD, was against the World War, and got murdered for his politics. People in Germany today remember him only when Rosa Luxemburg (an actual theorist) comes up, his fame consists of him being that other lefty who got murdered, and that's about it. People recognize Luxemburg's mug, but not him. I haven't read him myself, but scholars of Marxism usually consider him a brainlet with the heart in the right place.


 No.2785237

>>2785211

>overshadowed

definitely not, and Liebknecht is a name you know if you know anything about german social democracy

>>2785234

absolute nonsense

not everyone is an uncultured, uneducated burger and pseud

his father was one of the founders of the SPD ffs

an antiimperialist who doesn't know his slogan "The Main Enemy Is At Home!" should go stay home and study more

https://www.marxists.org/archive/liebknecht-k/works/1915/05/main-enemy-home.htm


 No.2785241

>>2785237

>not everyone is an uncultured, uneducated burger and pseud

I'm German.

>his father

I made no statement about his father. As for Liebknecht's thinking, read this: https://www.marxists.org/deutsch/archiv/liebknechtk/1922/studien/marxkritik.htm


 No.2785246

>>2785241

all well and fine but i was talking about his anti-imperialist stance with which he was ahead of his entire party, so bitch please

https://www.marxists.org/deutsch/archiv/liebknechtk/1914/12/reichstag.htm

if you apologize not knowing basic leftist history when you yourself should know better being a german leftist then so be it but my opinion of you is low to say the least


 No.2785251

>>2785246

>all well and fine

Actually, it isn't. In his Marxkritik Liebknecht called Marx incoherent and it looks like he didn't grasp the distinction Marx made between concrete labour and labour power.

>if you apologize not knowing basic leftist history

Go fuck yourself. I know who he was and what happened to him and why. I said that people today don't recognized his mug, unlike Rosa's. And I said that because it's true.


 No.2785265

>>2785251

you're apologizing not recognizing him, and you just admitted it

and i'm saying the only reason not to do so is because you'd have to be illiterate on basic socialist history, simple as that

you're losing your shit about everything else i haven't even brought up just to distract from you apologizing brainlets

/you


 No.2785283

>>2785265

>>Go fuck yourself.

>you're apologizing

???

>>Liebknecht was part of the left wing of the SPD…

>not recognizing him

???


 No.2785436

Rosa's political theory sucked ass and her economic theory sucked even more.


 No.2785466

>>2785436

So? Better than the clusterfuck that was the Weimar Republic. Germany would have been better off had there been a legit civil war and had the Communists won. We would have saved ourselfs from WWII.


 No.2785556

File: 50d0370667794c4⋯.png (25.53 KB, 273x200, 273:200, 1442855962141.png)


 No.2785557

File: 36e42ac5acfcbfc⋯.jpg (34.12 KB, 583x583, 1:1, pepe crying with gun.jpg)

>>2785088

>“We want a world of peace, solidarity and a life worth living on all continents. We think that is possible, in spite of all.”

FUGGING GABITALISTS


 No.2785566

File: a88e722a6c0572e⋯.jpg (301.61 KB, 1200x808, 150:101, 1369513133242.jpg)


 No.2785601

File: f770ecc78296895⋯.webm (3.44 MB, 640x480, 4:3, your favourite comrade.webm)

>>2785088

>We want a world of peace, solidarity and a life worth living on all continents. We think that is possible, in spite of all


 No.2785629

>>2785201

how is this post not banned


 No.2785654

File: b56602c97ebb20f⋯.jpg (1.19 MB, 2700x1509, 900:503, ba008154.jpg)

Only time Social Democracy did anything right!

If they didn't stop retarded Rosa and Karl and their pack of bandits, Germany would've sunk to the same levels of fun and subhumanity as Russia.

Dankeschon Herr Friedrich Ebert!

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 No.2785657

Yeah, doesnt /leftypol/ has much more importanat things to discuss?


 No.2785661

>>2785654

>same levels of fun and subhumanity as Russia.

The Nazis are a degenerated state of capitalism, tho.


 No.2785691

>>2785629

Mods are fags


 No.2785710

>>2785657

Yeah, like e-celebs and the giant US base.


 No.2785978

i wish rosa luxemburg was my gf


 No.2786063

was there, ama

(even saw an hoxhaist)


 No.2786076

>>2786063

Any righties show up?


 No.2786083

>>2786076

nope, not even too much cops


 No.2786090

File: 83767495875eb28⋯.jpg (84.28 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, maxresdefaulkgt.jpg)


 No.2786117

>>2785601

Where is this ?


 No.2786120

LuxembREKT

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 No.2786483

File: 755b21d562f7be3⋯.jpg (374.13 KB, 1264x1177, 1264:1177, 5A2.jpg)

>>2785654

>Germany would've sunk

Yeah, it's not like Germany then sunk deeper than ever before thanks to your type


 No.2786485

File: 67690bdd4eafc10⋯.png (13.97 KB, 588x150, 98:25, ClipboardImage.png)

the absolute madman


 No.2786495

>>2785601

Is the a comrade party or something ?


 No.2786500

File: a63865ee2ac3194⋯.png (44.79 KB, 876x773, 876:773, 6.png)

ROSE-AH

ROSE-AH


 No.2786554

>>2786483

Is that a portrait of Stalin they've raised on the street? Fucking dope.


 No.2786565

File: 97a20a49877e5f8⋯.jpg (619.65 KB, 1264x1177, 1264:1177, rekt.jpg)

File: 358f2e725bd2460⋯.png (22.74 KB, 142x114, 71:57, Stalin in Berlin.png)


 No.2786567

>>2786485

>socdem fakes regret over killing rosa


 No.2786575

File: bd1347edbd589e0⋯.jpg (389.55 KB, 1772x1974, 886:987, stalin portrait in berlin.jpg)

>>2786565

>>2786554

Yeah, it's a portrait of Stalin. Computer, enhance!


 No.2786595


 No.2786728

File: 5eaa066cd178db1⋯.jpg (230.66 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, 1528730881874.jpg)

>>2785601

Is someone going to give the damn sauce of this video?


 No.2786756


 No.2786885

File: 7be96a5fcceb062⋯.jpg (55.5 KB, 624x517, 624:517, dissapointed.jpg)

>>2786756

Damn i was hoping to be a legit commie party.


 No.2786890

File: ed69f697b905318⋯.jpg (61.88 KB, 600x516, 50:43, 7e7.jpg)


 No.2786977

File: f3ad5ec83a98db5⋯.png (106.57 KB, 795x534, 265:178, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.2786983

>>2786977

t. man who did not resist financial capitalism when he was in a position to do so and instead resigned his position of power to write a book and start a new, useless political movement instead


 No.2786993

>>2786983

>hurr durr I don't know what happened in Greece

Really shows anon.


 No.2787097

>>2786993

>Baiting me to explain to you how he could have totally fucked over the EU

ok fine you lazy moocher

Varoufakis admits it himself: he had a powerful card to play:

“Draghi’s bond-buying had a fragile political and legal basis. The German Supreme Court and the European Court of Justice had only grudgingly approved it after repeated legal challenges by German right-wing euroskeptics. What Varoufakis proposed was to unhinge that delicate legal and political equilibrium. To do so Greece would default on the Greek bonds that the ECB had purchased in 2010 and 2011 during earlier rounds of bond market stabilization. That part of Greece’s sovereign debt had not been written down in 2012. The bonds were under Greek law. Their face value was roughly $33 billion. If Greece defaulted on all or part of those bonds, the ECB would be forced to re-evaluate its entire portfolio of eurozone sovereign bonds, and the door would be thrown open to a new legal challenge from the German right wing, putting quantitative easing into jeopardy.”

Further down in his review, Tooze concludes: “Given Greece’s subordinate position, it would be bombastic to call his scheme a ‘nuclear option’. But it was certainly a dirty bomb.” Two comments are pertinent here:

AND YET HE DIDN'T FUCKING DO THIS WHEN ALL WAS LOST


 No.2787105

>>2787097

I’m pretty sure the leadership of Syriza didn’t align with his plans, and only after 5 months he quit as finance minister.


 No.2787192

>>2787097

He wanted to but Tsiapras and the rest of Syriza didn't, which is why he resigned dumbass.


 No.2787217

>>2786575

The interesting little thing about this picture for me as a German is that they still have the same fucking sign for the S-Bahn (suburban trains) in every city as they had it in 1945 and even during Weimar. Berlin metro even looks the same as it did during the 20s, and during the 70s, East Germany sold a few trains to the DPRK, which are still in use today. So, if you are ever visiting the DPRK get ready for the surreal experience to see grafiti of East German punks, metalheads and goths within the metro trains of Pyongyang (you really can).


 No.2787353

>>2787097

Defaulting on loans isn't anywhere near a nuclear option, it was done all the time before 2008. Varoufakis didn't "admit" to being able to default, that's the dumbest thing I ever heard.

The hard part was keeping the economy going after a default because the ECB wasn't gonna give them any more cash as punishment. He had a bunch of interesting ways around that, the ECB had billions of euros in Greek bank vaults, they were going to seize them and stamp them with "only for use in Greece" and fill the ATMs with them (and then tell the ECB "Sorry, national emergency, here's the money it cost to make the bills").


 No.2787865

File: fa664699c7dd732⋯.jpg (20.57 KB, 512x288, 16:9, rendition=liebknecht_320.f….jpg)

File: 9e231897a679bf5⋯.jpg (38.72 KB, 805x317, 805:317, 4-format6001.jpg)

File: 106313462ae853a⋯.jpg (236.55 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, 15975283_1211213198985831_….jpg)

File: cc45d3a0a973533⋯.jpg (32.47 KB, 608x342, 16:9, 658433_608x342_1oFeWx_BJ0c….jpg)

>and red roses will be placed

not roses, you ignorant anglos! it's a dianthus caryophyllus.


 No.2787989

>>2787217

Got any pics of metros with grafiti? You'd think they'd remove it.


 No.2788035

>>2786993

>>2787105

>>2787192

>nom nom nom this socdem dick, oh so tasty nom nom nom

KKE told you so, and it's exactly what happened. He joined them anyway. What did he expect?

But yeah, now that he left and does dumb shit all over again, now he's the true revolutionary who'd never bend.

Don't you think you should go over to leftpol? Would feel more homely for you, there you can hug nationalists and kiss their ass, just like your beloved SYRIZA you utter failures.


 No.2788040

so unironically has the post-ww1 SPD ever not been trash?

even from a socdem perspective they've gotta be like the worst ones.


 No.2788041

>>2788040

The call for a general strike during the Kapp Putsch (which only worked because the USPD, KPD and their aligned unions joined it) but that's about it.


 No.2788048

>>2788035

Literally post one example of a KKE article from like before 2015 saying what occured in Greece would happen, do it bitch.


 No.2788050

File: 809adb7bfc3671c⋯.mp4 (995.1 KB, 400x400, 1:1, nagatoro.mp4)

>>2788040

It's a german thing. I don't mean this in some Antideutsche way or some /pol/ way that German culture is "cucked" or "degenerate" or whatever but from a materialist viewpoint Germany is basically the kingpin of imperialism in Europe, it's our United States. German industry profits massively from cheap labor from southern and eastern europe. These material conditions shape German leftism, where they have agreed to collaborate with this arrangement. German greens are also the worst in the continent.

Similarly, the PS and PSOE are also bad (the former for similar reasons as the SPD) but just a notch above the SPD. Even Labour under Blair wasn't as bad as the SPD, they really take the crown for worst socdems ever.


 No.2788051

>>2788048

you do it bitch, kek

KKE called it that SYRIZA would fuck you over, they did

stay mad, cuckdem


 No.2788052

File: 988009aa64da2ba⋯.png (25.6 KB, 406x438, 203:219, full.png)

>>2788051

>Please provide evidence for your claims

<"HURR DURR YUO DO IT"

Bitch no balls.


 No.2788079

File: 27975060b7db661⋯.jpg (12.58 KB, 220x308, 5:7, 2017-03-26_Oskar_Lafontain….jpg)

>>2788040

>so unironically has the post-ww1 SPD ever not been trash?

yes, under oskar lafontaine.

ebert and noske ruined it in 1914. under lafontaine it had a short renaissance of it's former self, however he eventually left the spd and founded die linke when it became clear that schröder/hartz/clement/steinbrück were up for reviving the ebert/noske style spd in 1999. so during the 2000 and 2010s it's got to be indeed one of the most belligerent anti-worker parties in europe. infact spd member thilo sarrazin started the alt-right/neoreactionary shit here and remains an icon of the far-right, yet he's still an spd member.

today, with regard to plummeting polls, the spd is drifting a bit to the left, they even acknowledged that hartz4 was a mistake and introduced a minimum wage. won't help much though, i suppose.

i still have a weak spot for the spd due to her glorious history prior 1914, however i doubt that there is potential for a turn back to the roots under a real social democrat like corbyn. it's full of bourgeois-liberal career politicians and completely lost credibility during the last 20 years. she might end up around the 5% mark soon, like her french sister party ps.


 No.2788167

>>2788052

>i'll just pretend it didn't happen

>i wont acknowledge anything and just make you work looking stuff up i could just google myself

>which i wont do because im a cuckdem sucking SYRIZA dick

well you enjoy that tasty smegma, boy


 No.2788264

Important question for historians: is that sweet rosa ass real or is it just early 20th century clothing trickery?


 No.2788273

>>2788167

Bitch ass no balls


 No.2788300

>>2788273

dumbfuck no brain cuckdem :^)


 No.2788301

>>2788300

Bitch ass no balls


 No.2788303

>>2788264

historian here, she really is stupid thick


 No.2788312


 No.2788318

File: de1da980a1189db⋯.jpg (36.1 KB, 500x376, 125:94, luxemburg smiles.jpg)

File: 7e6de7ec53056ce⋯.webm (10.75 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Varoufakis on his power.webm)

Luxemburg is one of the most radical leftists ever. She knew revolution can only happen on a global level and communism only works in a basic democratic council republic. She knew reformists are needed as a revolutionary reserve but thex work like Sisyphus. Luxemburd knew that self-criticism is highly needed to adopt to new historical-material situations and develop theory and practice adequately. She knew that only a holistic approach which includes ecological and animal rights can bring communism.

>>2786983

>>2786567

See WebM what power Varoufakis had.


 No.2788331

File: fb2d1c961dfacbe⋯.png (166.83 KB, 443x395, 443:395, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2788312

>newstatesman


 No.2788893

>>2788303

As a leader of a political movement, I bet she was into femdom. I want that thick ass in my face.


 No.2789108

File: 63ccd8ef61316cf⋯.png (145.82 KB, 300x468, 25:39, luxemburg bench.png)

>>2788264

she was kinda thicc


 No.2789110

File: 67ba19028d79587⋯.jpeg (25.57 KB, 220x248, 55:62, F594C176-123C-4272-B21B-B….jpeg)

>>2785088

>Liebknecht: Deputy von Campe talked of a weakening of moral backbone that must be combated through inflammatory pro-war propaganda in the schools. He welcomed the decree along these lines enacted in Hannover. Yet the universal first duty of education is to speak the truth, and this truth must be taught in the schools. That means teaching in quite a different manner than that prescribed by Deputy von Campe, the Hannover decree, and the government…

>We need to teach the truth about martial law. Teach the truth about the "new orientation." Teach the truth about the interests served by this war and how it came about. Teach the truth not only about how the killing in Sarajevo was an atrocity, as Herr von Campe would have you do, but also the fact that certain circles in Germany and Austria greeted this killing as a gift from God ("Very true!" from the Social Democrats) because it gave them the needed pretext for war– (Loud cries of "Shame." The chairman rings his bell.)

>That is the truth! (Prolonged, loud booing. The chairman rings his bell.) That is the truth! It was a pretext! We must tear off the mask–(Renewed loud cries of "Shame." The chairman rings his bell.)

>Chairman: Deputy Liebknecht, I must ask you to be silent.

>Liebknecht: That is the truth! (Prolonged, loud cries of "Shame" and "Get out!") You do not want to listen. But justice will prevail! (The Conservatives, Free Conservatives, the Centre, and the National Liberals leave the hall.) You are fleeing from the truth. Leave, then. You cannot face the truth! (The chairman rings his bell.)

>Chairman: Deputy Dr. Liebknecht, I call you to order because of this outrageous affront to the national feelings of this chamber and of the entire country. I warn you regarding the procedural consequences. If you commit a further breach of order, I will ask the House if it wishes to continue listening to you. Please continue. (Loud commotion. Shouts: "Get out!" Protests from the Social Democrats.)

>Liebknecht: Gentlemen, I have only informed you of what stirs me to deep indignation. But I heard it with my own ears; it is the truth….

>Our task right now is to tell the working class of every country, "On with the job!" Whether you are in the trenches and inside the country, lower your weapons and turn them against the common foe, who robs you of breath and life! (Loud commotion from the Right. The President rings his bell.)

>Chairman: Dr. Liebknecht, these remarks are out of order. I call you to order for the third time, and I will now ask the House if it wishes to continue to listen to your remarks. (Loud applause from the Right and the Centre. Loud commotion. Vigorous protests from the Social Democrats. Deputy Dr. Liebknecht attempts to continue his remarks, but in vain. Members of the Conservative, Free Conservative, Centre, and National Liberal parties return to the hall.)

>[Amid renewed uproar, a vote was taken and Liebknecht was compelled to stop speaking.]

https://socialistworker.org/2014/12/02/liebknechts-appeal-against-war

I cry every time I read this this speech for some reason.


 No.2789478

>be commie

>get shot


 No.2789484

>>2789478

40 hour work week

pensions

universal public healthcare

universal suffrage

unionized workers

paid maternal leave

still enacted


 No.2789610

>>2785203

Son of Wilhelm Liebknecht, one of the founders of the German Social Democratic Party and contemporary of Marx. When the war broke out, Rosa was sidelined by her party and Karl was the only (I think) member of parliament to vote against funding the war amidst the war fever. He represented the true endgame scenario of SocDem and its shortcomings when he went up in front of the whole government and said that "the main enemy is at home", condemning the war as imperialist and contrary to socialist principles. Absolute mad lad. The rest is history.

>>2785223

Listen to and sing this all the time. I only cry sometimes.


 No.2789702

>>2789610

I didn't know Karl actually did/said that, pretty based tbh.




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