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 No.2785336

You should always know the laws of your state, anon. Today I learned that universities which receive state-funding have the authority to prohibit the use of their facilities for meetings or speaking from people who are members of "the communist party" (assuming that means CPUSA but either way it's still on the books, I could see this being applied broadly) in Ohio and that students here have to learn about the US, its history and Constitution before being taught about social issues, foreign affairs, the UN, world government, socialism or communism. Really makes me think.

Anything interesting from your state?

 No.2785348

https://www.forsythnews.com/local/form-asking-about-communist-party-ties-was-used-inadvertently-lanier-tech-officials-say/

Something like that appeared in the news here in Georgia. I remember having to take a second look when reading the paper.


 No.2785365

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Shit, I posted the same image twice.


 No.2785471

Have to sign a form saying that you uphold the US Constitution to get any government job, even tangentially government-related like janitor.

Then there's this:

>The Communist Control Act (68 Stat. 775, 50 U.S.C. 841-844) is a piece of United States federal legislation, signed into law by President Dwight Eisenhower on 24 August 1954, which outlaws the Communist Party of the United States and criminalizes membership in, or support for the Party or "Communist-action" organizations and defines evidence to be considered by a jury in determining participation in the activities, planning, actions, objectives, or purposes of such organizations.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Control_Act_of_1954


 No.2785482

You cannot be a member of a Communist Party and work as a teacher, judge or civil servant in Bavaria.

(They dont mind if ur a nazi tho)


 No.2785508

>>2785471

>”Communist-action" organizations

Totally not vague at all


 No.2785539

>>2785482

So can you be a Nazi and teach if you don't deny the Holocaust?


 No.2785541

When I immigrated into the United States, the application clearly asked if I was now or had ever been a member of the "Communist Party", or if I were in favor of the "doctrine of World Communism".


 No.2785609

>>2785539

There are some who are quite proud of the gas chambers and cremation ovens and want to bring them back.


 No.2785619

>>2785609

So it's illegal to say the Holocaust didn't happen but legal to say it was justified and we should do it again, Germany is an awesome country


 No.2785621

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 No.2785634

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Singapore's Internal Security Act gives the government the power to, among other things, "prohibit the manufacture, sale, use, wearing, display or possession of any flag, banner, badge, emblem, device, uniform or distinctive dress or any part thereof."

Pic related is the only symbol prohibited right now, as far as I'm aware - five-pointed star, hammer and sickle. Accusing people of being commies and then indefinitely detaining them without trial has been a fairly popular approach here.


 No.2785643

>>2785336

>before you learn things that require critical thinking you must be subject to brain washing


 No.2785650

>>2785482

You are also prohibited from making a PhD as a communist.


 No.2785653

>>2785634

Malaysia's government can pretty much arrest you for breathing in a communist fashion.

>124B. Activity detrimental to parliamentary democracy

>124C. Attempt to commit activity detrimental to parliamentary democracy

>124D. Printing, sale, etc., of documents and publication detrimental to parliamentary democracy

>124E. Possession of documents and publication detrimental to parliamentary democracy

>124F. Importation of document and publication detrimental to parliamentary democracy

>124G. Posting of placards, etc.

>124H. Dissemination of information

>124I. Dissemination of false reports

>124J. Receipt of document and publication detrimental to parliamentary democracy

🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧parliamentary democracy🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧


 No.2785664

In Australia in 1951 our post-war Conservative gov attempted to make even being a Communist in any fashion more or less illegal by changing the constitution to allow them to ban anything related to communism at all

The referendum failed though luckily

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1951_Australian_Communist_Party_ban_referendum


 No.2785701

B-but da commie jews are brainwashing americans through government education!


 No.2785716

Britain doesn't have anything tbh, I mean orgs can be banned for be promoting terrorism but all of them have been AQ, Muslim brotherhood or Revolutionary fascists.


 No.2785835

>>2785653

Praise be to the Eternal Anglo!

Thoughts on the Malayan Communist Party? I'm pretty sure that Singapore's education system hasn't imparted any useful information about them to me.


 No.2785854

>>2785653

WHAT PARLIAMENTARY DEMOCRACY MALAYSIA IS AN ACTUAL FUCKING MONARCHY THE EXISTANCE OF A FUCKING MONARCH UNDERMINES "DEMOCRACY" WHAT THE FUCK


 No.2785871

>>2785835

I never got the impression that there was much more to the MCP than what I learned in school. Of course, the textbooks weren't exactly impartial about it, putting a lot of emphasis on how communism is a strongly atheistic movement as if that's a point against it, but there's a reasonable version of events if you read between the lines.

The MCP started organizing after Japan gutted the country and left. They tried to drive the British out too, by organizing strikes at first but eventually turning to shooting estate kulaks. The Brits opted to chase them into the jungles and bomb the shit out of them, and now there is no more MCP.

The PSM is the only leftist party left, but they're extremely weak as far as support goes.

>>2785854

The monarchy is weird like that. Its role is to sink resources like the British one during peacetime, then suddenly assume military control in times of crisis, as if some privileged inbred sicko is the most impartial moderator our country has.


 No.2785890

>>2785619

>legal to say it was justified and we should do it again

Nah.


 No.2785904

>>2785621

How long until the Verfassungsschutz comes down on this party hard? It’s not even subtle with the Cornflower and statements from the party leader about the muh “Volksgemeinschaft”. Is there a double standard versus Rechtsextremismus and Linksextremismus there?


 No.2785920

>>2785904

>Is there a double standard versus Rechtsextremismus and Linksextremismus there?

Of course my nigga. Look up the NSU murders. They roamed Germany for years killing immigrants and the Verfassungsschutz aka domestic intelligence agencies didn't even bat an eye. Look up NSU 2.0 which is a scandal that broke a few weeks ago. There are legit Nazi militia cells in the German military and police force (and in the civil service and in the justice system) with considerable influence. Germany is, no matter how hard the leftlibs try to act like it isn't, in its core still an ultra-conservative state filled to the brim with people with an Eurocentric superiority complex (conservative as not in "gay ppl r bad" but as in "europe shall rule over the world and capitalism shall remain in state for-fucking-ever")


 No.2785944

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>>2785871

Look at my third world comrades right here

I love them

do you have any leftisp parties(that are no illegal) down there


 No.2785957

>>2785619

that's the German way dude, being very exact. Also some of the most popular AfD politicians used to be or are teachers


 No.2785986

>>2785541

What did you put?


 No.2786115

>an ideology that seeks to overthrow the State is illegal in large parts of the World

IMAGINE MY SHOCK


 No.2786119

>>2785957

>>2785619

>>2785890

Last poster is right, it is illegal to call for another Holocaust. Honestly, all these Holocaust laws are fucking stupid. In the end they crack down on the most retarded shit (for example, the infamous "Auschwitz and the Great Alibi which was probably co-authored by Bordiga would be Holocaust denial in Germany) because it is full of moralistic and Zionist implications. For example, it is illegal to "deny the singular historical character of the Holocaust", so you can't compare it with another genocide, you probably can't even declare it as a result of capitalism - that would deny the "conspiratorial character of the Nazi's plan". The Holocaust laws are not "lefty" in Germany, they are part of the liberal hegemony, and they are directed against radically-left anti-Zionist critiques or Marxist analysis of the event even as much as they are directed against Nazis. The GDR had anti-Holocaust-denial laws that were materialist in character and not moralistic or spooked.


 No.2786123

>>2786119

>The GDR had anti-Holocaust-denial laws that were materialist in character and not moralistic or spooked.

Interesting, any info? I can read enough German to get the gist if you do


 No.2786125

>>2786115

Revolution is not illegal in most countries of civilized world.


 No.2786126

>>2785986

I thought about it for a while, but ended up putting no, since a yes would cause a bureaucratic ass-pain. Though the CCA is probably unenforceable today, my lawyer advised against it, and my wife wasn't having any of it. Technically I was never a member of "the Communist Party" either… it was called something else.


 No.2786137

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>>2786115

illegalizing ideas because it can be potentially dangerous is still infrnging on basic human rights. It's like I said that it's now illegal to take a shit because it might smell bad and I don't wanna smell it.


 No.2786164

>>2786119

I'd also be interested if you have more on this >>2786123


 No.2786171

>>2786164

>>2786123

Basically the word "Holocaust" or "Shoah" was not used in the GDR (since they didn't come up before the 80s anyway) but simply called a genocide carried out by the fascist government, in which predominantely Jews, but also gays, gypsis, disabled, Poles, Russians, Lithuanians, etc. were exterminated. So basically, you couldn't deny there was a genocide, but there was no specific Jewish or moral narrative established, antisemitism was outlawed specifically though. It was argued, that many victims of the Nazis that weren't Jewish were ignored or even bullied in West Germany, which was correct. Nobody was interested in the stories of a Roma, a homosexual or a communist (till this very day the German government denies any compensation for communist victims that were gassed and only since 2016 (!!!) gays can receive compensation).


 No.2786395

>>2786171

That sounds much more sensible. Everyone knows about the six million, but most don't remember the other eleven.

>>2785854

>Seven states with hereditary monarchy

>One where three families take turns

>One state that seems to be a weird hybrid of elective and hereditary monarchy?

>Every five years the nine Kings pick amongst themselves who gets to be the Big King for the next five years

Is there a weirder system of monarchy?


 No.2786422

>>2785944

Singapore's political parties, if anyone's interested

>The party in government, Mr Lee's Greater Singapore

>Former lefties that have turned into clones of the party in government

>Let's keep the status quo but with more redistribution

>Sun Yat-Sen is Awesome

>Privatise Everything (but with redistribution and also UBI for old people)

>Make Singapore Great Again

>Pinkwashed Libdems

>Other Libdems

A 'Socialist Front' party was formed a few years ago, talking about nationalising key industries and regulating "economy and the essential industries by legislation and allow true competition to surface to control prices and excessive profiteering," but they appear to be defunct.


 No.2786441

>>2786422

Sun Yat-Sen was self described socialist who worked wit Comintern and had university named after him in Moscow.


 No.2786442

>>2786422

Forgot to add than Sun Yat-Sen send Chiang Kai-shek to study in Moscow and organized Kuomintang along Leninist principles.


 No.2786449

> Certain other countries, such as Hungary,[1] Poland[2] and Croatia,[3] have constitutions that make references to their Communist and Socialist past by recognizing and condemning it, but without claiming to be socialist in the present.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_socialist_states

>p*land

>Political parties and other organizations whose programmes are based upon totalitarian methods and the modes of activity of nazism, fascism and communism, as well as those whose programmes or activities sanction racial or national hatred, the application of violence for the purpose of obtaining power or to influence the State policy, or provide for the secrecy of their own structure or membership, shall be prohibited.

https://www.sejm.gov.pl/prawo/konst/angielski/kon1.htm

>hungary

>We do not recognise the suspension of our historical constitution due to

foreign occupations. We deny any statute of limitations for the inhuman

crimes committed against the Hungarian nation and its citizens under the

national socialist and communist dictatorships.

>We do not recognise the communist constitution of 1949, since it was the

basis for tyrannical rule; therefore we proclaim it to be invalid.

https://www.constituteproject.org/constitution/Hungary_2011.pdf


 No.2786451

>>2786442

>Chiang Kai-shek

Man did that go well.


 No.2786690

>>2786115

>tfw it's illegal to even state your political stance because saying a revolution is needed and justifying it with examples of class warfare is incitement to violence


 No.2786919

It shall be unlawful for any person to speak, print, publish or communicate, by language, sign, picture or otherwise, any teachings, doctrines or counsels in sympathy with or in favor of ideals, institutions or forms of government hostile, inimical or antagonistic to those now or hereafter existing under the Constitution and laws of this state or of the United States, or in sympathy with or in favor of the propriety, duty and necessity of crime, violence or other unlawful methods of terrorism, as a means of accomplishing economic or political reform, or in sympathy with or in favor of the overthrow of organized society, the unlawful destruction of property or the violation of law.

Any person violating any of the provisions of section five of this article, shall, for the first offense, be guilty of a misdemeanor, and, upon conviction, shall be fined not less than $100 nor more than $500, or, in the discretion of the court, be confined in jail not exceeding twelve months, or both; and, for the second offense, shall be guilty of a felony, and, upon conviction shall be confined in a state correctional facility not less than one nor more than five years.

West Virginia, everybody…


 No.2786922

>>2786451

I forgot to add that Chiang Kai-shek' son Chiang Ching-kuo got his degree from Communist University of the Toilers of the East, same university that Deng Xiaoping and Hồ Chí Minh studied in.


 No.2786935

>>2786922

Wtf? How? Why?


 No.2786943

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>>2786935

Sun Yan-sen, a self described socialist, was allied with Comintern and send Chiang Kai-shek to study politics in USSR and organized Kuomintang along Leninist organization. Chiang Kai-shek liked his studies so send his son to study in Moscow, same uni where Deng and Ho Chi Minh studied. Tito also studied in USSR, but different university.


 No.2786950

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>>2786935

Soviets also helped to create communist party of India, second most important Indian party in achieving independence, so USSR positively influenced two of most populous nations in the world. Jawaharlal Nehru, also a self described socialist, and friend of Mahatma Gandhi also liked Stalin and Soviet Union.

https://www.marxists.org/subject/stalinism/1953/stalin.htm

https://archive.org/details/in.gov.ignca.742/page/n5


 No.2786953

>>2786441

Sun was a national liberation leader first, and Georgism is liberal. This isn't to say he wasn't historically necessary, but, he wasn't a proper socialist.


 No.2786954

>>2786953

Like I said, he was *self described* socialist.


 No.2786959


 No.2786995

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>>2785904

>How long until the Verfassungsschutz comes down on this party hard?

lolol if you think the vs does anything against fascists or reactionaries you are dead wrong. the vs itself is literally stuffed with far-righters. vs undercover agents funnel state money, intel and other things to the far-right and they may cover up illegal shit far-righters aligned with the vs did with all means possible even before court.

also high vs officials don't even hide their political affiliation with the far-right anymore.

look at this sympathetic guy. he was the boss for a long time. a lot of very questionable things happened during his reign and he's known for uttering /pol/ narratives and being politically close to the afd.




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