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 No.2864552

I found this today and I found it interesting. /pol/ had nothing intelligent to say about it so I am posting here,- maybe you guys will get something out of it.

>I was asked for a brief definition of what I mean when I talk about the oikonomic nexus of race, nation, family that I’ve written about elsewhere, but also to situate an explanation of ethnonationalism within that. Posting that below for anyone who might be interested.

>So, as briefly as possible.

>There is no racism that does not involve a politics of sex and which links both of these with notions of property ownership. Without a theory and politics of sexuality and desire, there is no plausibility to tenets concerning the reproduction of the purportedly heritable property of race. Both cultural and biological concepts of race emphasize the importance of heritability, they simply disagree over the mechanism of transmission. The concept of race as a heritable property links race to class—it does so by naturalizing the (inter-generational) distribution of property and wealth, and links it moreover to the histories of coveture, paternal rights and absolute primogeniture. Hence, too, the antipathy to miscegenation, particularly where the husband is defined as not-white, and therefore also an antipathy that involves caveats, as where ‘inter-racial’ sex where wives or women generally are considered as property.

>Along these lines, ethnonationalism—as well as the post-Plessy v Ferguson ‘separate but equal’ doctrine of segregation or Apartheid—involve a strict conflation between race, nation and family. In these schema, political rights and authority are distributed on the basis of masculinity while being spatially or geographically delimited on the basis of inseparable concepts of race and sex. Every nation a patriarchal household, engaged in competition within a global system. Ethnonationalism invites men to identify as both men and white (or with a race) as the condition of rights and, by implication, to consider women—and land or territory, and on occasion other non-white men who are often explicitly feminized—as the property over which those rights are exercised by ‘nature’ or divine right, and without restriction; or, as Marx put it while writing of the American Civil War, it promises “to tame them with the prospect of one day becoming slaveholders themselves.” This is also the promise that migration controls offer, the diffuse but naturalized promise of a distributed sovereign politics and selective decisionism. It is a concept of politics as regulative of the economy, whose norms and laws (nomos) are grounded in a distinction between public-political and private-economic domains (oikos). Hence oikonomia.

>In this sense, race, sexuality, gender and class are not discrete, comparable categories. They refer to different but inseparable functions within a legal, economic and political system of appropriation and exploitation. All of this therefore involves an emphasis on labor, without taking as given how activities are defined as labor (or not), and who has rights of possession over that labor as stipulated in the arrangement of contracts.

She also wrote about modern "national socialists" and what they believe today here with shout-outs to donald trump and anuddah shoah.

https://osf.io/fgxru?show=view

 No.2864556

seize cute traps


 No.2864570

File: 6fa577a30ad7513⋯.png (171.27 KB, 399x407, 399:407, elsa-5939b7ef7072f.png)

i always thought that ethnonationalism was an incel rape cult. Think about it, you close the borders, you deport all minorities: the mating population has been designated towards the favourability of these alt-righters.

Racists are obsessed with black men's large penises and think about white women having interracial sex, often. Autism Level being genetic is supposed to correlate with the idea that interracial couples are dampening the white genes in their reproductive potential, this is why media representations of interracial couples is always black and white, never native american and Chinese couple, for example.

As it has been understood, race is largely a white construct - and ethno-nationalism is a political expression of a sexual pathology based on this construction.


 No.2864575

nice and intelligent posts as always from leftypol

I have to get out of the chans


 No.2864648

File: 2a60fbf9c4a6e65⋯.jpg (128.92 KB, 750x586, 375:293, marxvsidpol.jpg)

>>2864552

Shut the fuck up, liberal.


 No.2864716

>>2864648

Do you have schizophrenia or are you just that reactionary who posts with that flag? Nothing in your reply has anything to do with OP, you're outing yourself way too hard here fam.


 No.2864719

>>2864648

>>2864716

Like the quote in OP is basically Materialist, are so fucking triggered that as soon as you see a woman you need to sperg the fuck out like this?


 No.2864805

>>2864575

>the chans

you'll feel right at home on >>>/reddit/


 No.2865039

>>2864552

her opinion isn't outlandish I guess, she just uses too many fancy words for my taste

you can't restrict racemixing by just asking nicely after all, there have to be big social pressures to do so and they have to focus on women as they are the limiters of reproduction and this encourages a worldview of ownership over women


 No.2865054

>>2864552

this is a stupid anti-science screed with big words, she engages in many fallacies such as separating heritable into genetic and cultural (i.e. nurture), most of the fallacies are treating categories that are not segregated as distinctly segregated. This is a akin to refusing to acknowledge that different colors exist due to the spectrum fallacy.

>All of this therefore involves an emphasis on labor, without taking as given how activities are defined as labor (or not), and who has rights of possession over that labor as stipulated in the arrangement of contracts.

This is also false, she never demonstrates this. No valid syllogism is presented to argue this, it is simply a large assumption made to create a mechanism with specious function. It is one a myriad of deux ex machina, but without clear causality.

The entire thing is a long piece of magical reasoning


 No.2865067

>>2864719

>>2864716

Recent converts are retarded.


 No.2865090

>>2865054

You've not actually understood anything said have you? I'd read the whole thing before posting such a transparent "critique"


 No.2865100

do you have a question or something?

What are you expecting in response


 No.2865103

File: ca61e547e4b579a⋯.jpg (69.2 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, ca61e547e4b579a563e3abd06c….jpg)

Almost every successful Communist revolution resulted in a form of ethnic nationalism


 No.2865108

Got a sneaking suspicion half the posts in this thread are from Stormweenies.


 No.2865113

>ethnonationalism

laughingstirner.me


 No.2865114

>The concept of race as a heritable property links race to class

lol what a maroon


 No.2865131

>>2865090

>You've not actually understood anything said have you? I'd read the whole thing before posting such a transparent "critique"

>‘separate but equal’ doctrine of segregation or Apartheid—involve a strict conflation between race, nation and family

This is a fallacious critique as it mistakes sub-categorization with conflation or being the same in some sense, outside of rhetoric nationalists do not say that someone of the same ethnicity is the same as a family member. This is similar to saying that when we classify mammals as belonging in the same kingdom to saying that hippopotami and lions are somehow the same animal.

> Every nation a patriarchal household, engaged in competition within a global system.

There is no basis for this either, you can say that the nationalists hold patriarchy as an ideal system for themselves. When you actually talk to these people they are explicitly indifferent to the political systems outside of Europe and the Anglosphere. They just don't care if Kyrgyzstan is a matriarchy or not. And they do not see it in competition, is not immediately obvious outside of hostile religions or ideologies. The piece just does not engage in anything bu self-indulgence




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