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 No.2865478

What a sound economic ideology right wing libertarian capitalism is. How will we ever recover?

 No.2865482

UNDER COMMUNISM, NOTRE DAME WOULD'VE BEEN FIXED FOR FREE


 No.2865485

>>2865478

Kering which is property of the Pinault Family has avoided paying, since 2002 both in Italy and France, 2.5 billions € of tax through tax avoidance schemes. So those 100.000.000€, that the Pinault family promised, aren't even 5% of that amount.

source: https://twitter.com/Brevesdepresse/status/1118261584671985664


 No.2865487

>>2865482

TRUE FACTS ABOUT THE USSR REGARDING CHURCHES AND RELIGION IN GENERAL INCOMING PREPARE YOUR ASSES:

As Engels noted, "the only service that can still be rendered to God today is to make atheism a compulsory dogma and to surpass Bismarck's anticlerical Kulturkampf laws by prohibiting religion in general."

Religion was not banned in the USSR. Churches, mosques, synagogues, etc. existed, as did clergy and the publication of religious texts.

The struggle against religion is waged chiefly via debate. In the first two decades of the USSR anti-religious propaganda and even violence came about due to the fact that the Orthodox Church and most clergy of the other faiths were linked to Tsarism and local exploiting classes, and had resisted both soviet power and collectivization.

When churches were closed or torn down, this was supposed to be done with the consent of the local population. Yaroslavsky, head of the USSR's atheist organization in the 1920s-30s, criticized violations of this tenet.

As the CPSU pointed out, under socialism a new generation of clergy came into being that supported the socialist state even if they themselves were not Marxists. Both this clergy and ordinary believers were to be treated respectfully.

>Do most communists see the erasure of religion as an objective these days anymore?

Yes, but obviously a long-term one, not something that can be accomplished via decrees.

So to answer your question:

>How would communism realistically abolish religion?

By removing the material conditions that give rise to it and educating people. For example, "the real danger facing the churches in the GDR today is no longer a direct confrontation with the state. . . Numerous parishes have already dwindled down to a small handful of worshippers, if that. But since the church in the GDR—unlike that in the West—does not have the opportunity of compensating for its dwindling religious substance and attractiveness by social activities, it is hit all the harder by the process of secularization." (Sontheimer and Bleek, The Government and Politics of East Germany, 1975, p. 125.)

In other words the church no longer had the need to dispense charity to the destitute or carry out other societal functions. One's belief in religion was not tied to economic or cultural considerations. This obviously weakens the influence of religion.

There are three books I've scanned you might find of interest:

* https://archive.org/details/MarxismChristianitySymposium

* https://archive.org/details/UrgencyMarxistChristianDialogue

* https://archive.org/details/ChristianityTodayInTheUSSR


 No.2865540

>>2865482

Wrong, under communism the Notre Dumb would have been something useful like a school or hospital or housing.


 No.2865551

>>2865485

>>2865485

Pinault is one of the richest men in France and owns the largest private art collection of the country. The super wealthy who paid for Notre Dame actually don't pay their taxes and are despised by the french population.

Source : frenchman.


 No.2865554

>>2865482

Under communism the renovation crew wouldn't have been cutting back staff and equipment to save money and it wouldn't have burned down to begin with.




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