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File: 5235a6e55794b0b⋯.png (517.98 KB, 753x800, 753:800, 825dca1c4577b0b6b22b0da0c4….png)

 No.2871627

UKRAINIAN COMEDIAN ABOUT TO BECOME PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE

How long until Ukraine is reabsorbed by Russia?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-election-latest-zelensky-win-poroshenko-a8880541.html

 No.2871633

ГУДОК ГУДОК


 No.2871641

Nice, now we can have *honk honk* funny fascism.


 No.2871643

Ukrainians are Clowns to begin with.


 No.2871661

File: 3f84972de608636⋯.png (190.14 KB, 1280x861, 1280:861, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2871627

CARPATHIAN RUTHEINA WILL BE HUNGARIAN AGAIN

MADE BY HUNGARY GANG


 No.2871674

>>2871643

they make very funny jokes about USSR


 No.2871679

File: d320a91d6f17828⋯.png (270.39 KB, 680x798, 340:399, stalin.png)

The concept of Ukraine existing is a comedy itself.


 No.2871680

>>2871661

>Broke: Carpathian Ruthenia is Ukrainian

>Joke: Carpathian Ruthenia is Hungarian

<Woke: Carpathian Ruthenia is Slovak

<Bespote: Carpathian Ruthenia is Rusyan

<On Coke: CARPATHIAN RUTHENIA IS POLISH


 No.2871683

File: 2dd5f7688ba7131⋯.jpg (41.78 KB, 800x800, 1:1, 1553146055798.jpg)

>>2871679

Dude that shit is water under the bridge, modern Ukrainians can't help what their past countrymen did.


 No.2871685

>>2871679

That was Stalin's doing though.


 No.2871686

>>2871661

>RUTHENIA WUZ WHIIIIITE


 No.2871687

we need a holodomor debunking thread


 No.2871689

File: 90b15fd7b681bcf⋯.jpg (360.68 KB, 995x1284, 995:1284, daddy.jpg)

>>2871685

Only on Lenin's insistence, Stalin would have collectivized those """countries""" kulak-style.


 No.2871690

File: e08e22dc1978e7c⋯.jpg (65.21 KB, 927x780, 309:260, Ukraine_Fake_State.jpg)


 No.2871691

So does this election actually mean anything? I read a few articles and it was a bunch of Ukranian Nationalists bitching about Putin and Zelenskiy not being authentically Ukranian enough.


 No.2871695

>>2871689

Stalin was People's Commissar for Nationalities, he was the one who said Ukranians were a nation.


 No.2871733

>>2871691

It definitely means a few things. Zelensky might be a bit of a walking meme (for those that don't know, he isn;t just a comedian but a political satirist who plays a teacher that gets elected president and basically tries to go around purging corruption but is an idiot and can't do intrigue at-all., and it goes batshit like Ukraine balkanises into like 13 states in series 3) but he is unique in a few ways. First he is a Russkije (which isn't a great term, but eh) or a Russo-Ukrainian, so he identifies nationally as a Ukrainian but speaks Russian as his first language (going as far to say that when he speaks Ukrainian he is translating in his head). So yeah for the fascists he is a russophile traitor. He's also a realist over Donbass & Crimea, he knows he can get Donbass back but that Crimea is a lost cause. While he certainly isn't pro-Putin, his origins from the Russkije community put him as a unique mover that could help forge a New Ukrainian national identity that doesn't go around praising fucking fascists (also Zelensky is of jewish heritage, which further pisses off Ukraine's fascists).

So what's in-store for Ukraine? Well a negotiated settlement in Donbass is likely, especially as Russia tires of having to basically pay for everyone's gibs there. Internally it's a different story. Atm Zelensky is backed by an oligarch (who is a jewish guy that funded the Azov Battalion, yeah…), but also Zelensky appears to have outgrown his puppeteer by a large margin purely out of public support. There is an interesting analysis piece I saw that says Zelensky will be a shit president, but because he will be a shit president that Ukraine will become a de facto Parliamentary Republic and that's a good thing. We will see, but Zelensky is better than anything else tbh: he has promised that Ukraine will not join NATO or the EU without referenda so that's nice.


 No.2871743

>>2871690

Быдло.


 No.2871796

File: 8cd3182c92dd95b⋯.png (466.5 KB, 852x478, 426:239, ClipboardImage.png)

Get rekt Poroshenko.


 No.2871806

>electing a comedian during a civil war

AAAAAHHHHH


 No.2871818

>>2871806

"Civil war" is a bit generous, it's like somewhere between a civil conflict like The Troubles and a Bush war.


 No.2871831

>>2871690

>tfw the soviets had ukrainian overrepresentation in their leadership

>they massively expand its territory

>higher lifespan than japan at one point

>population grows steady under the soviet union and declined as soon as it collapsed

Why are Ukrainians so ungrateful? Poles have the same problem.


 No.2871851

File: d0a8aadad1fcb07⋯.jpg (29.16 KB, 500x375, 4:3, d8e4ed9493926fd42ec1a275be….jpg)

reminder that communism as a political position is basically illegal in Ukraine as of 2015 and that their biggest communist party is literally banned from running


 No.2871858

>>2871851

IIRC Anarchists work with the Nazis to fight the Commies.

Always kill Anarkiddies.


 No.2871859

>>2871851

Tbh the CPU is a fucking dogshite legacy party that was a Party of Regions Sycophant.

I am convinced the path to socialism in Eastern Europe must be built in labourism and rejecting the old communist parties as the corrupt relics they now are.


 No.2871862

>>2871858

The whole Azov stuff is fun. Anarchists, Islamists, Jews, Nazis.


 No.2871879

>>2871862

Tbf the funniest party is that there are Cossack nutjobs on both sides because fucking cossacks man.


 No.2871883

>>2871862

>Azov

>Anarchist

Whta fucking level have you ascended to?


 No.2871930

>>2871690

>in 1939, 1945

HEH

>>2871796

But the entire rest of the world is voting for Poroshenko. Checkmate, Seinfeld.


 No.2871936

File: 1a63e830677d8c7⋯.png (2.95 MB, 1583x12531, 1583:12531, shitshowenko.png)

File: d10b47d8ed05f0e⋯.png (2.34 MB, 7106x751, 7106:751, shitshowenko2.png)

Okay I waded through the cesspool that is Eastern European politics and brought you the "highlights". You're welcome.

Their links:

https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1119829232836927488

https://www.rferl.org/a/meet-ukraines-presidential-candidates-2019/29756553.html

More on the debate and blood test shitchapters of the shitshow: https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1113473758008942592

Bonus: https://www.rt.com/news/455634-porhoshenko-pinochet-stadium-debate/


 No.2871937

>>2871683

They could avoid falling into neonazi propaganda and banderism, tho>>2871831

>>2871831

WE WUZ NAZIS N SHIT


 No.2871948

>>2871831

The Soviet Union is the reason modern Ukraine exists today, and not just because of all the territory they gave it. Remember the Provisional government refused to grant them independence, the Tsarists would've never allowed Ukraine to secede from Russia and the Rada and the so-called nationalists invited the German imperial army and gratefully accepted becoming a colony for the Reich. Not to mention later the Polish invasion that tried to occupy Ukraine to recreate the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth. Fucking Ukrainians.


 No.2871957

So is Ukraine doomed to elect a new comedian every few years after the last has proven to be a corrupt US puppet?


 No.2871988

File: 96aa2c67a7a4363⋯.png (1.06 MB, 1255x705, 251:141, gang.png)


 No.2872022

File: 76f74db81645fcf⋯.webm (11.8 MB, 640x360, 16:9, too many crows.webm)

File: 6438653527fd698⋯.webm (3.61 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, abramnasypai.webm)

File: 94f419894a73425⋯.gif (403.57 KB, 550x370, 55:37, ukr.gif)

File: 36987414f0c52b5⋯.jpg (55.93 KB, 960x1080, 8:9, 40460866 10160689653605697….jpg)

File: bd381bc69262100⋯.jpg (80.43 KB, 906x960, 151:160, 53453748 1789993077771582 ….jpg)


 No.2872041

Zelensky is a puppet for Kolomoysky, who syphoned 6 billion out of the bank that had to be nationalized not to go bally up. Kolomoysky is hiding in Israel (where he has citizenship), there is a warrant for him in Ukraine. He claims that Ukrainians still owe him 2 billion. This would be interesting how this plays out.

This dude is a joke, not just that he is a comedian, he plain sucks. I heard some of his "jokes" on the campaign trail and he is a total POS. How the fuck he got elected, I don't know, but I guess Ukrainian citizens deserve him now.

He is got no cabinet and no support in parliament. As much as I understand, president is a figure head, may be like in Iran, he doesn't really hold a whole lot of power as parliament wields the real power. So this will be interesting.

Clown world indeed.


 No.2872042

>>2871831

poland is one of the few post-soviet success stories


 No.2872061


 No.2872062

>>2872041

>I heard some of his "jokes" on the campaign trail and he is a total POS

Could you elaborate? Genuinely curious


 No.2872108

File: 919d4ef95904a02⋯.jpeg (174.17 KB, 1000x1000, 1:1, 53EAEB4C-C1DB-4A89-A640-A….jpeg)

>>2871643

>>2871627

>>2871679

I used to think Ukraine was a tragedy, but now I realize it’s a comedy


 No.2872139

Remember Beppe Grillo?

We should start electing comedians.


 No.2872155

>>2872062

>>2872041

>He is got no cabinet and no support in parliament.

That's become the parliamentary elections for Ukraine are in October. Atm his party; Sluga Narodu (the name of his TV show) is polling the highest.

>As much as I understand, president is a figure head, may be like in Iran, he doesn't really hold a whole lot of power as parliament wields the real power. So this will be interesting.

Nah Ukraine is de jure semi-presidential but the Rada has always been cucked by the president.


 No.2872172


 No.2872194

>>2872042

>Poland

>post-soviet

>success story


 No.2872231

>>2871859

This is a naive take. Granted, the CPU hasn't adapted well to multiparty parliamentary elections, but neither have any of the old Soviet-era parties. They simply don't have the knowledge, expertise, or foreign money that the new media-savvy neoliberal political groups do, and that goes a long way in post-Soviet politics. You can criticize them all you like for glorifying the Soviet Union or whatever, but their official stances have been pretty much spot on; they are firmly internationalist, firmly leninist, complex and resolute theory which addresses popular concerns, they have a clear political program which introduces real measures to halt the imperial leeches from de-developing ukraine…I could go on.

>the path to socialism in Eastern Europe must be built in labourism and rejecting the old communist parties as the corrupt relics they now are.

This won't work. Any rhetoric stressing the primacy of workers and class politics is met with frenzied anticommunism. At some point post-Soviet countries will have to reconcile with their past and recognize the USSR as a project which, although flawed to whatever degree you like, had genuinely noble aims and did some very good things. Accepting that the old communist parties were corrupt isn't mutually exclusive with wanting to build off their Soviet legacy, which, especially in the case of Ukraine, was their most fruitful era and defined modernity for them. Now most of the genuinely corrupt people have fucked off/been booted out of the CPU and there has been a qualitative transformation in their outlook. They aren't stupid enough to think that Soviet Ukraine could and should be attempted to be rebuilt the second they have any power.


 No.2872247

Dice rollRolled 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1 = 9 (6d2)

>>2872231

>Any rhetoric stressing the primacy of workers and class politics is met with frenzied anticommunism.

This is an utter shitpost, but maybe take a rhetorical high theory Juche turn and always refer to the workers and the working class as the subject

Force your antagonists to be the ones bringing up the social antagonism?


 No.2872256


 No.2872259

Stalin should have killed more of them.


 No.2872279

>>2872256

Watching every nation allied with the USA turn into 100% pure Barbarism is funny.


 No.2872295

>>2872062

Like calling your country a whore, enough?

This is like electing Seinfield or Benny Hill, fucking clown world.


 No.2872303


 No.2872304

>>2872295

Tbh that means he has a good understanding of Ukraine's position of the world: something fundamental to fixing it.


 No.2872311

>>2872256

The comments on that article are fun


 No.2872835

File: 8da31a520b90737⋯.png (90.18 KB, 500x747, 500:747, a381e60c8fb69cea39d9358f1d….png)

Goddamn is Ukraine a waste of space. And some idiot spitting on Zelinski while Poroshenko the US slave was the other option.

Fuck Ukraine.


 No.2872843

>>2872835

I can't think of any positive thing about Ukraine. Like none, at all.

A country with sea access, natural resources, industrial capabilities and lots of potential tourist sites has long fallen behind Belarus in GDP per capita.


 No.2872932

>>2872843

Are there any groups in Ukraine that call for a reversal of the completely insane '90s privatizations, in which random ass people took over 90% of the country's wealth?




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