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 No.2873694

Comrades, my friends are fucking anti-feminists and want to convert dem to anarcho-communism. Any tips n tricks for dis?

 No.2873697

empirical LTVpill, followed by theoretical LTVpill, followed by classpill, followed by whatever snowflake left-sectarian pills you want them to take


 No.2873698

Just tell them basically "women don't matter, the decentralization of power does".


 No.2873751

>>2873694

tell them feminism has nothing with communism. Get them to read Mutual Aid or just tell them how anarcho communism is human nature, and that early anarchists like Bakunin and Proudhon weren't feminists.


 No.2873785

>x doesn't like y

>how do i make x like z?

i don't get it, why would you want to go to the lengths of making them anarcho fucking communists when they not only not support feminism but are actively against it? it's like telling me you have a race realist friend and asking me how to turn him into a radical communist.


 No.2873787

>>2873751

Bakunin was a feminist, though.


 No.2873821

Feminism is a part of socialism through its rejection of reactionary adherence to maintaining a status quo in practice regardless of what "social.ly conservative" socialists like to think.


 No.2873823

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>>2873821

socialist feminism has basically no relation to feminism as practised in the west in 2019 though.

>>2873694

Idk, maybe try give them this argument in reverse I guess? "If you're anti-feminist, you must be anti-capitalist, and remove the power of corporations to push manufactured identity wars on you"


 No.2873837

>>2873823

Because western feminism is bourgeois politics.


 No.2873847

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>>2873821

Feminism is anti-communist. Marx himself kicked out a prominent feminist (and later investment banker, really maeks u think…) out of a socialist party.


 No.2873852

>>2873847

Liberalism is anti-communist. Liberals have the Midas touch, except every cause they touch turns to shit.


 No.2873853

>>2873847

>a prominent feminist (and later investment banker, really maeks u think…)

who dis


 No.2873855

>>2873847

>Marx himself kicked out a prominent feminist

Because she was a wrecker


 No.2873857

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>>2873852

Correct

>>2873853

Victoria Woodhull

>>2873855

There is no need for repetition, I already said she was a feminist.


 No.2873862

This thread sucks now.


 No.2873868

>>2873847

>female liberation is bourgeois

>>2873857

Good christ, read your own picture.


 No.2873872

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>>2873868

It, is, as it is not a contradiction with capitalism - unlike proletarian revolution.


 No.2873874

>>2873847

Fucking read this: printage.wordpress.com/2011/08/04/friedrich-engels-theory-of-the-origins-of-patriarchy

A communist has to be a feminist.


 No.2873875

>>2873872

>x does not contradict captialism

>therefore x is imperialist

Smoothbrain.


 No.2873876

>>2873874

To summarise: patriarchy arose when private property arose, so with the abolishing of private property, patriarchy has to be abolished too.


 No.2873878

>>2873847

You do sound like a trot: that because Engels said in Principles of Communism that a revolution has to be global, so it HAS to be global. But people like you don't want to investigate into what conditions Marx and Engels had in mind when they made the statement, and what conditions do we find ourselves in.


 No.2873939

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>>2873876

feminism arose when capitalism arose, so with the abolishing of capitalism, feminism has to be abolished too.

>>2873878

Shut up, revisionist.


 No.2874012

>>2873939

Feminism was convenient for capitalists because women in the workplace benefited them.


 No.2874142

>>2873876

>To summarise: patriarchy arose when private property arose, so with the abolishing of private property, patriarchy has to be abolished too.

There still are patriarchal sentiments, but are there actually any Patriarchs left ? As in head of a powerful church, or family clan, that actually perform the role in functional way. Not just symbolic stuff. Honest question


 No.2874360

>>2873939

Feminism began with the Enlightenment you fucking fag


 No.2874384

>>2873876

That's vulgar materialism lmao. Private property is what gave rise up patriarchal relations, but simply abolishing private property in and of itself won't get rid of patriarchal relations.


 No.2874397

>>2874142

>There still are patriarchal sentiments, but are there actually any Patriarchs left ? As in head of a powerful church, or family clan, that actually perform the role in functional way. Not just symbolic stuff. Honest question

IIRC Angela Nagle argues that the answer to your question is "no" and therefore modern liberal democratic countries can't be described as patriarchies in any meaningful sense.


 No.2874553

>>2874397

so what do current day feminists mean with overthrowing the patriarchy,is this an expression of an organisation in need of a foe for self-justification or is this misandry.




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