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 No.518058

Hello and welcome to /leftypol/. Please check the board tags for related boards. These are our groups:

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/leftypol

http://qchat.rizon.net/?channels=/leftypol/

Leftybooru:

http://lefty.booru.org/

/leftypol/'s magazine:

http://bunkermag.org/

Other leftist chans/backups:

http://www.getchan.net/

http://www.bunkerchan.org/

FAQ:

>How can you call yourselves leftist politically incorrect?

According to Wikipedia's citation of someone named Herbert Kohl,

"The term “politically correct” was used disparagingly, to refer to someone whose loyalty to the Communist Party line overrode compassion, and led to bad politics. It was used by Socialists against Communists, and was meant to separate out Socialists who believed in egalitarian moral ideas from dogmatic Communists who would advocate and defend party positions regardless of their moral substance."

From this alone, it should be clear how leftists could consider themselves politically incorrect. But in the context of this board, we find other examples. For instance, /leftypol/'s general stance on the social justice movement essentially makes it a pariah to much of the leftist elite.

However, this was only a minor consideration in the creation of /leftypol/. Since the concept is simply a leftist version of /pol/, the entire name of /pol/ was retained.

>I'm not a leftist can I post here?

/leftypol/ welcomes debate from non-leftists. Non-leftists frequently come here to ask questions and raise topics for debate. Board moderation here is more focused on maintaining a good board index, so non-leftists have to be on better behavior as OP than they do as participants in someone else's thread. If you aren't b8ing or shitposting, your thread is likely to stay up.

>Are you liberals? Are you SJWs? Do you like Obama? Are you all Zionists???

While there are a few liberals here, the majority of posters on /leftypol/ are radical left. They may still be socially liberal, but their economic stances are decidedly not liberal, and likely heavily opposed to the liberal order. As an extension of this, posters here are opposed to "SJWs," because they see them as economically liberal, and socially oppressive. Stances on Obama here range from indifferent, to angry– and the only poster here who shills for Democrats still does so under the premise that they're a lesser evil.

As for Israel, leftism is anti-Zionist. It is not anti-Jew. Unlike /pol/, /leftypol/ fully supports Palestinians, and doesn't think they're "mudslimes."

Pretending to be an SJW or Zionist will very likely get you banned.

>Why did you leave /pol/ and why does this board exist?

We may have "left /pol/," but /pol/ never left us. Since /leftypol/ is so prominent on such a /pol/-dominated website, a lot of debate here comes from /pol/ visitors who are interested in learning about leftism. You are more much more likely to find right wing posters on /leftypol/ than you are to find left wing posters on /pol/. /leftypol/ exists to help the 8chan community focus on leftist topics without being slid or flooded to death.

>Do you support gun control?

While posters on /leftypol/ have varying stances on gun control (training requirements, mental health checks, etc.), they are overwhelmingly in favor of arming the proletariat, and are against banning guns. Famous leftist heroes such as Marx, Orwell, and Huey P. Newton were all pro-gun.

>Do you support "national" socialism?

There are a few posters here who believe that "national" socialism is or can be a leftist stance, but Strasserism and NatSoc are generally regarded as a joke here. You're better off being honest that Nazism is right-wing. Attempting to cloak your hatred for foreigners and other races in pro-worker rhetoric, or similar ploys, might get you banned.

mod action log:

https://8ch.net/log.php?board=leftypol

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 No.518070

New FAQ thread. The old one was way too big. Let me know if anything is wrong with this one.

Also, I literally have a folder full of banners that need to be uploaded when Hotwheels re-enables it.


 No.520987

>>518070

BO, new banners ITT when?


 No.521326

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 No.523309

4th


 No.525490

Alright /leftypol/, sell me. I left /pol/ when it began filling up with people taking it too seriously and started taking jokes as seriousness. Now that same autism seems to of leaked everywhere thanks to Donald Trump running for US president.

The internet has become a shitty circlejerk of "wif us or against us". I might as well see what you guys have to say if everywhere I'd normally go is full of people jerking each other off to how much they hate something. The only other decent board is /tech/ and they have their heads so far up their arses it's not worth bothering.

Basically I'm

>Against mandatory military service

>For stricter gun laws (but probably because I'm an ausfag who cant comprehend why America's gun laws are so loose)

>Against foreign intervention unless your hand is absolutely forced

>Both for and against refugees on a case-by-case basis

>Against gay marriage

>For sweatshops in foreign countries if there is no other work available for the residents of the foreign countries

>Very loosely against slaughter houses and battery farms, I just generally consider that it'd be more humane if we hunted instead

>For a higher minimum wage in America

>Against foreign aid because it'd create a perpetual circle of local farmers being unable to keep up with the support from first world countries, worsening their economy

>For state provided jobs as to provide those unable to find work with some form of income

>Against internet censorship

>Against extreme surveillance

What I want to know is where does the general /leftypol/ consensus fall on these issues? And if it falls against them atleast try to convince me why.


 No.525968

>>525490

I will give a TL:DR of your questions, as there probably is someone who can expand on it.

Note, this is from a Marxist/Revolutionary point of view, the biggest (by a huge majority) of the the population here.

>Against mandatory military service

Don't know general consensus, haven't seen much discussions about it.

>For stricter gun laws (but probably because I'm an ausfag who cant comprehend why America's gun laws are so loose)

Generally everyone is pro-gun, because it is allows the working class to stand up against the bourgeoisie and for the population to act as a militia in socialism. You may be against guns because of what is happening in the USA. In the USA, people are becoming poorer and it's become more expensive to live, so people are taking their guns and shooting people, but do it under racial context and don't know why they are actually in the circumstances, which is due to the rich increasing wealth inequality.

>Against foreign intervention unless your hand is absolutely forced

Depending on who you speak and the circumstances, but usually against it in the current capitalist society because it only displaces people (causing the refugee crisis in Europe) and can be used by the state to tighten laws and increase surveillance under the name of counter-terrorism.

>Both for and against refugees on a case-by-case basis

Generally against refugees in current society for reasons above.

>Against gay marriage

Most are for, just because people should be allowed to do what they want. But the supporters for it aren't the gay pride bunch who will rub it in your face.

>For sweatshops in foreign countries if there is no other work available for the residents of the foreign countries

Haven't been discussed so don't know.

>Very loosely against slaughter houses and battery farms, I just generally consider that it'd be more humane if we hunted instead

Currently debates about it but from what I've gathered, most people are against them, and for them to live a good life before they died, in the current society atleast. But in a worldwide socialist society it maybe inefficient for animal farming altogether, as they take way too much space for what is needed to grow compared to vegetables and fruits. Still, debating.

>For a higher minimum wage in America

Yes most do, accelerationists don't, they want to make it worse so then people revolt when it the conditions get to boiling point.

>Against foreign aid because it'd create a perpetual circle of local farmers being unable to keep up with the support from first world countries, worsening their economy

Yes.

>For state provided jobs as to provide those unable to find work with some form of income

Depends on which society. In the current one, there is a mix of opinions so I can't tell the general consensus.

>Against internet censorship

Yes in current society.

>Against extreme surveillance

Yes in current society.

I'd recommend you lurk here for a bit to see what people think, and feel free to make threads with questions about certain topics.


 No.526367

I added LeftyBooru to the sticky:

http://lefty.booru.org/index.php

It's at the top for now for exposure.

>>520987

New banners are still disabled aren't they?


 No.526647

I made a Discord because IRC (on a network with fucking awful reliability no less) is pretty archaic and limited for people not accustomed to it.

https://discord.gg/0oNNHyxZpCvfaU5o

If any board vols or more dedicated posters want admin access they're free to ask.


 No.528152

>>526647

Is this free software?


 No.529039

Hey BO! Can we get an addition to the FAQ that clarifies that Mick posting is ironic and satire so we don't get idiot newfags believing we have a bizarre hatred for the irish.


 No.529397

>>529039

But the filthy Micks really are trying to destroy our nation!


 No.529656

>>529397

Did you know that old Mick, Bill Gates, is responsible for the Zika virus spreading?

http://www.trinfinity8.com/zika-virus-mosquitos/

http://www.naturalnews.com/052847_Bill_Gates_Zika_virus_depopulation.html

I WANT TO BELIEVE


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 No.540701

>>533750

that's a good show


 No.544548

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>>526367

New Hibernia flag when?


 No.544550

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 No.548980

Dice rollRolled 1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2 = 10 (6d2)

>>544548

>>544550

Gotta need them overmorrow.

Nevada will have caucuses. That means more coin magic.


 No.549714

>>548980

I heard that in Nevada they use a deck of cards in stead of a coin flip…


 No.555575

>>526647

is this still functioning? the invite expired.


 No.560236

>>518070

>Also, I literally have a folder full of banners that need to be uploaded when Hotwheels re-enables it.

could you upload them here, please

http://www.bunkerchan.org/left/res/1.html


 No.561449

>>518058

Why is Not Socialism regarded a joke here? I'm not a Nazi I just think the country should come first.


 No.561983

>>561449

because if anything the correct position in that case would be national bolshevikism


 No.568241

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Ahoy /leftypol/, what do you think about 2ch.hk/ussr/?

It's almost dead, but, however, we have interesting debates and theory sometimes, so do yo want to translate something from here to the CIS post-soviet board? Or maybe to have something translated to you from us?

Sorry if someone already asked this, my internet isn't doing well by now, can't surf it through.


 No.569974

>>568241

make a thread about it. we're interested


 No.570930

I have a bunch of old thread I saved in my bookmarks, but they are 404 now, is there like an archive or a way to get them back?


 No.577074

Legit all these threads about race


 No.584945

So I get that idpol is spooky, but I want to know more about /leftypol/'s positions on those ideas. Any response to any of these would be helpful, honestly. You guys post lots of memes, and I just want to know what you actually think.

>Is there a problem with racism (systematic or not) currently in the West?

>Is it a good idea to do anything political about race specifically?

>What is your view on BlackLivesMatter?

>What is your view on immigration (legal or not)?

>Is there a problem with sexism (systematic or not) currently in the West?

>Is it a good idea to do anything political about sex/gender specifically?

>What is your view on feminism?

>What is your view on the men's rights movement?

>Is there a problem with discrimination against sexual minorities (LGBTQ…) currently in the West?

>What is your view on gay rights?

>What is your view on transgenderism?

>What is your view on everything else the sexual minority and LGBTQ etc. label covers?

I'm not an SJW or neolib, but I guess I would accept the term "liberal" if it's meant in the classical sense. Mostly I'm a rationalist who wants to minimize harm. Right now I think there's some worthwhile stuff in the above greentext, but it's all very badly muddied. Is the /leftypol/ answer just "fix class struggle and all the above is solved"?


 No.585164

>>584945

>Is there a problem with racism (systematic or not) currently in the West?

Yes. Niggers were slaves. The culture that arose from that relation is fading, but it's still there.

>Is it a good idea to do anything political about race specifically?

It sometimes helps, but it, as everything else, creates a reaction and I would say that politics based on identities such as gender and race has reached its limits.

People get it. "Respekt women and minorities". The fundamental problem is private property.

>What is your view on BlackLivesMatter?

Largely a joke, but it might have some revolutionary potential.

>What is your view on immigration (legal or not)?

I don't care who enters 'my country'. Most people are retarded no matter where they come from. My only concern is that Israel has produced a lot of Neet Socialists in the middle east.

>Is there a problem with sexism (systematic or not) currently in the West?

Yes. Men have been superior, for either cultural or biological reasons, at producing capital. This gives them a hiarchial advantage.


 No.585174

>>584945

>Is it a good idea to do anything political about sex/gender specifically?

I would say there are ways to eliminate some of the gender differences within capitalism through politics, but it's a silly game because I do not want women to conform to different gender roles that produce equal capital, rather I would have everyone be socialists.

>What is your view on feminism?

Well, the above.

>What is your view on the men's rights movement?

A silly reaction to silly bourgeois feminism.

>Is there a problem with discrimination against sexual minorities (LGBTQ…) currently in the West?

Yes. Same with racism and sexism it gets better, but again, it creates a reaction we don't want right now.

>What is your view on gay rights?

Well, of course.

>What is your view on transgenderism?

What do you mean? Do I need a view on why people enjoy dressing up?

>What is your view on everything else the sexual minority and LGBTQ etc. label covers?

Too much 'in your face', but I understand as they have had to hide for a long time.


 No.590689

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proposing DirectX flag


 No.590691

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 No.590692

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 No.590697

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>>590692

maybe alternative


 No.590785

>>590689

>>590691

>>590692

>>590697

I'm unfamiliar with this meme.


 No.590947

>>590785

I can't really spoil it for you.

>>589930


 No.596148

Diversity means chasing down the last white person


 No.596453

>>596148

/pol/ get out


 No.598743

/leftypol/ at 612 unique IPs right now.


 No.600392

Am I banned or wat


 No.604497

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Can someone explain the "muh human nature" meme? Is it just a response to people who say communism/socialism is against human nature or that capitalism is human nature? Something like that? Or is it the idea that human nature is a spook and humans are blank slates?


 No.604518

>>604497

Blank slates in a sense, yes.

But mostly it's a senseless meme that is used to refute senseless arguments.

Muh human nature argument is usually spouted by people with no scientific background that think genes control everything.


 No.609460

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Could we have a flag that we could use when posting books and sources titled ">>>/freedu/" or "check out /freedu/? I think our sister board deserves a little bump.


 No.609465

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 No.609574

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>>609460

>>609465

I endorse this motion!


 No.609731

>>609460

Yeah let's do that


 No.609741

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