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No.593978
What does /leftypol/ think about Frankfurt School and all the conspiracy theories surrounding it?
No.593990
It's a bunch of faggots circkle jerking and producing material to trigger paranoid fantasies in conservacucks and provide libtards with vague language to spew meaningless bullshit.
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No.594001
>>593978
Produced some fascinating work. However, people have of course taken byproducts to further their own agenda (both the right and neo-liberals responsible). Cultural Marxism, for instance, is a farce. Left primarily cares not for the obliteration nor preservation of any culture. We ask only for an egalitarian society. Whatever develops from that, so be it, for as long as exploitation and imperialism is laid to rest.
No.594005
A lot of them stopped being Marxists didn't they?
I don't think feminism would magically bring about communism as the conspiracy suggests
No.594011
>>594005
Elaborate further on this conspiracy. I believe it's a pretty logical conclusion for a feminist to find appeal in communism.
No.594018
>>594005
Erich Fromm went the farthest in terms of abandoning violent social change, if I remember it right. I think Marcuse called him out for becoming a libdem.
That said, even when Fromm was writing about Buddhism and love, he still cited Marx, called for the end of private property, and said material conditions are more primary than shifts in consciousness.
No.594115
I know of philosophy. Should I read Adorno's aesthetic theory?
No.594117
>>594115
I know nothing of philosophy*
No.594145
>>594011
social outcasts and minorities like gays will lead the revolution against capital, and a coordinated effort of marxist professors in colleges to promote feminism and increase the number of gays/feminists who will then lead the revolution
yeah it makes so much sense
No.594154
They were a bunch of huge bourgies and Marcuse was the archetypical 68-Mautist.
Most of the conspiracy theories are nonsensical, though they're not wrong in saying the idea traditions of modern idpol Liberals are rooted in the Frankfurter's Critical Theory.
It's just that like 9/10ths of the Frankfurt School hated everything the 1968 Left stood for. (really everyone but Benjamin and Marcuse hated them and thought they were a huge embarassment)
As for "cultural marxism" it's a strong attack word politically that serves the interests of both sides, the rightwingers get to identify them with marxists and the liberals get to self-identify as marxists (without all the troublesome bits about class and economy, them being rich kids after all). The only ones getting shut out are genuine marxists, and really who in the mainstream political debates are going to care about them?
No.594160
>>594005
Horkheimer was supposedly a huge capitalist monies-first kind of guy from the get-go if you believe the accounts of ex-Frankfurt student turned-paleocons like Gottfried. He also said that Marcuse was a nice guy but he lost contact with most everyone at the school when he started associating with the 68er students.
No.594351
>>593994
This is absolutely beautiful. B"H
With that said, Benjamin's essay is quite clearly a kabbalistic interpretation of HistMat. You see these same motifs in Dialectic of Enlightenment, even when Horkheimer and Adorno allegedly criticized Benjamin's religious nuttery.
No.595274
>>594351
It's qabalatistic (however the fuck its spelled) in that he thinks humans have some transient connection to the past in the brief moments of revolutionary struggle in history. It's certainly romantic but I think its a rather beautiful way (as you mentioned) of a humanist doctrine borne out of dialectics. And yeah Dialectic of Enlightenment clearly expanded on Benjamin's witty insights.
For me to Benjamin is the best Frankfurter because he never lost the revolutionary spirit that defined other Marxists. It was definitely a tremendous act of courage to have written this while fleeing the nazis and ultimately kill himself to avoid capture.
RIP Benjamin
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No.595630
>>595617
i rage quit @ drum circle & quite frankly at that guy's whole channel (i was subbed for a while)
why are intelligent popularizers, historians, academics so fucking autistic when it comes to going beyond their shitty circles?
I'M NOT WATCHING YOUR LECTURES RECORDED WITH YOUR POTATO WHILE THERE'S A FUCKING DRUM CIRCLE GOING IN THE BACKGROUND
No.595880
>>595630
Are you talking about his Althusser lecture vid?
No.596180
Literally contributed nothing to Marxism. Next.
No.596184
Communist kikes invented cultural Marxism to promote anuddah shoah deeply triggering and problematic communist anuddah shoah agenda ZOG Occupied Government takes over with cultural Marxism
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No.596198
>>594160
Not surprising since Marcuse's theory was completely counter to everything the Frankfurt School said.
No.596203
>>596184
Are you having a stroke?
No.596209
>>596203
WORLDWIDE DEADLY COMPUTER-GOD COMMUNISM
No.596210
>>596184
Those word filters are still gold
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No.596277
>>596244
> Benjamin promoted disgusting art and literature all while celebrating the death of traditional Western art - See more at:
> being that triggered from the Dada movement
No.596283
>>596277
Tristan Tzara was also a kabbalist - true fact.
No.596289
>>596198
Queer Theory fucking killed feminism and Postcolonial theory succeeded in replacing Marxism with idpol.
No.596330
This Is Cultural Marxism.webm
No.596773
>>594145
except they never actually believed in that
>>594154
>Benjamin
Benjamin died in 1940
No.596972
Every single one of them was reactionary in some way, even Benjamin and Marcuse.
>Benjamin: "return 2 muh Torah guize it's good 4 Marxism."
>Marcuse: "I hate political art."
No.597022
i had to endure these faggots during my more liberal times i went through to get pussy
they are fucking retarded
basically all antideutsche (anti germans)
everything is antisemitism
israel is communism
USA is best ally
basically wannabe leftist völkisch ideologues who declare jews to be the master race while antizionist jews are ousted as traitors against their people or wannabe jews even
sometimes they claim them to be ultra right orthodox jews too, even though the love right wing governments
whenever they had discussions on other topics or their education and reading clubs it was about trivial bullshit like "regional chauvinism" when someone said they liked a certain town or region better, taking it as a serious issue
it's fucking insane
No.597029
>Bernie Sanders is an atheistic Communist, essentially a Satanist tool of the bankers he chastises. His Jewish socialism and "spirituality" amount to promising other people's money to underachievers in return for their vote. As president, he would be more effective than Obama in advancing the totalitarian Communist Jewish (Illuminati) NWO. Nonetheless, he is better than Hillary Clinton who is a pervert and criminal.
http://henrymakow.com/2016/02/bernie-sanders-is-a-freemason.html
No.597551
>jewish school of thought.
ever a good thing.
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>>597551
Yes, focus on the jews.
Good sassanach
No.597951
>>593978
The first world working class must be punished for failing to act according to theory. When we are through with them they will all be reduced to lumpen and replaced with a third world proletariat.
No.598007
>>594011
>I believe it's a pretty logical conclusion for a female supremacist to find appeal in system which considers males as their equal
A totalitarian IdPol state isn't communism.
No.598607
>>596277
A Klee drawing named “Angelus Novus” shows an angel looking as though he is about to move away from something he is fixedly contemplating. His eyes are staring, his mouth is open, his wings are spread. This is how one pictures the angel of history. His face is turned toward the past. Where we perceive a chain of events, he sees one single catastrophe that keeps piling ruin upon ruin and hurls it in front of his feet. The angel would like to stay, awaken the dead, and make whole what has been smashed. But a storm is blowing from Paradise; it has got caught in his wings with such violence that the angel can no longer close them. The storm irresistibly propels him into the future to which his back is turned, while the pile of debris before him grows skyward. This storm is what we call progress.
— Walter Benjamin,
Ninth Thesis on the Philosophy of History
No.598780
>>596972
but political art is bullshit. Look at how Keith Haring's stuff is now literally on t-shirts at Urban Outfitters, whose CEO is a conservative
>>597022
I thought "anti-national" whackos were the minority
>>598007
>all feminism is female supremacism
ebin meme, comrade :^)
>>597951
you forgot to cite that quote
No.598800
The Work of Art in the Age of Technological Reproduction is one of the most important things to read in the internet age and needs more attention especially if we're looking for ways to retain class consciousness and critique of ideology in the Age of postmodern pastiche.
No.598815
>>597029
>Nonetheless, he is better than Hillary Clinton who is a pervert and criminal.
top fucking kek
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No.598875
>>598869
The nuclear family is a spook and Cultural Marxism is something the right wing made up to be even spookier.
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No.598896
Fucking rad. If you're reading this and you want to get into them, start with this overview: http://www.amazon.com/The-Dialectical-Imagination-Frankfurt-Institute/dp/0520204239
The conspiracy theories are already known to be stupid among everyone but those who believe it, so whatever.
Really though, the more and more I read of Adorno, the more I'm captivated to read more.
No.598937
>>593978
>Frankfurt School
Elitists. Hated the working class.
>>593994
>>598607
Benjamin's progress-bashing is weak.
>>598896
Don't get into them. Their writings are so full of holes its incredible. Anti-science and anti-progress.
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No.599018
>>598937
Yes, Benjamin's anarchism was not Chomsky's.
No.599297
>>598937
>>Frankfurt School
>Elitists. Hated the working class.
I'm sure…
No.600261
>>598937
>Anti-science and anti-progress
>Hated the working class
>ancom flag
noam pls go
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No.600307
No.600442
>>600307
Brilliant writer. What about him?
“We have indeed secreted a human age out of ourselves as spiders secrete their webs: an immense, all-encompassing ceiling of secularity which shuts down visibility on all sides even as it absorbs all the formerly natural elements in its habitat, transmuting them into its own man-made substance. Yet within the horizon of immanence, we wander as alien as tribal people, or as visitors from outer space, admiring its unimaginably complex and fragile filigree and recoiling from its bottomless potholes, lounging against a rainwall of exotic and artificial plants or else agonizing among poisonous colors and lethal stems we were not taught to avoid. The world of the human age is an aesthetic pretext for grinding terror or pathological ecstasy, and in its cosmos, all of it drawn from the very fibers of our own being and at one with us in every post-natural cell more alien to us than nature itself, we continue murmuring Kant's old questions - what can I know? What should I do? How may I hope? - under a starry heaven, no more responsive than a mirror or a space ship, not understanding that they require the adjunct of an ugly and bureaucratic qualification: what can I know in this system? What should I do in this new world completely invented by me? What can I hope for alone in an altogether human age? And failing to replace them by the only meaningful one, namely how can I recognize this forbiddingly foreign totality as my own doing, how may I appropriate it and make it my own handiwork and acknowledge its laws as my own projection and praxis?
… We may argue that Utopia is no longer in time just as with the end of voyages of discovery and the exploration of the globe it disappeared from geographical space as such. Utopia as the absolute negation of the fully realized Absolute which our own system has attained cannot now be imagined as lying ahead of us in historical time as an evolutionary or even revolutionary possibility. Indeed, it cannot be imagined at all; and one needs the languages and figurations of physics—the conceptions of closed worlds and a multiplicity of unconnected yet simultaneous universes—in order to convey what might be the ontology of this now so seemingly empty and abstract idea. Yet it is not to be grasped in this logic of religious transcendence either, as some other world after or before this one, or beyond it. It would be best, perhaps, to think of an alternate world—better to say the alternate world, our alternate world—as one contiguous with ours but without any connection or access to it. Then, from time to time, like a diseased eyeball in which disturbing flashes of light are perceived or like those baroque sunbursts in which rays from another world suddenly break into this one, we are reminded that Utopia exists and that other systems, other spaces, are still possible.” - Jameson, Valences of the Dialectic
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No.600481
>>600470
Yes, what about him? Is he your proof that postmodernism is cancer? If so, I agree. His book on late capitalism remains the preeminent critique of postmodernism.
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No.600547
>>600284
This image always makes me smile.
No.601172
>>598937
>Benjamin's progress-bashing is weak.
"Hi, I'm a social democrat/gradualist."
No.601257
>>601172
"science will show us the light, praise science"
No.601903
>>600481
Frankfurt School influenced postmodernism.
No.601906
>>601903
Postmodernism isn't a conspiracy, you know.
No.602813
>>598937
Go back to critiquing US foreign policy Noam. Leave philosophy and sociology to us.
No.603105
>>594351
>>597045
I actually think it's accurate to say the whole "Cultural Marxism" conspiracy theory is just a more sophisticated version of the Satanic Panic of the 1980s.
The formula is identical: a secret, evil group that possesses some kind of esoteric knowledge seeks to lure in unsuspecting kids and brainwash them into doing evil.
No.603118
>>601906
Just pure faggotry.
No.603123
>>601906
Postmodernism is actually a very contradictory ideology with conflicting currents - Zizek vs. Foucault, etc. Yet people talk about it as if it's something unitary
No.603150
>>593978
When referenced by /pol/, it's pretty much the version of blaming everything on Jews preferred by reactionaries who like to believe they're literate.
Otherwise, bourgeois liberalism - not even once.
>what if we can end economic exploitation and racism without affecting our economic muh privilege?
>mfw
No.603162
>>601903
No, it didn't.
Do you really think Adorno or Horkheimer would be proponents of the cultural logic of capitalism?
Go read a fucking book, you cretin.
No.603164
POSTMODERNISM = THE CULTURAL LOGIC OF LATE CAPITALISM
CONSPIRACY THEORIES = THE MYTHOLOGIZATION OF LATE CAPITALISM
DESPOOK YOURSELVES, FAGGOTS.
No.603169
>>603162
Benjamin influenced Derrida, idiot. Adorno's Negative Dialectics may have as well.
No.603189
>>603169
Again, if you think Adorono or Horkheimer (were they alive today) would be proponents of the cultural logic of late capitalism, then you're an abject fucking moron.
The conspiracy surrounding postmodernism isn't MUH CULTURAL RELATIVISM or whatever other retarded spook you dumbfuck reactionaries have tricked yourselves into believing. It's this: that it refuses to critically engage any metanarratives about capitalism and globalism. Is Derrida partly to blame for that? Maybe. Possibly Baudrillard too. But to blame The Frankfurt School by extension is a pretty big fucking stretch. At that point you may as well start blaming Nietzsche, Saussure and Marx himself too.
Like I said, go read a book, you little reactionary cretin.
No.603190
>>603169
>Benjamin
>Derrida
Let me guess, you're one of those reactionary faggots that thinks that The Frankfurt School was made up of Kabbalah practicing, Satan worshiping kikes. Am I right?
No.603196
>>603123
This.
Baudirllard hated Foucailt. Foucault hated Derrida. Deleuze and Guattari hated Lacan. No one likes Irigaray and her period porn.
>>603169
>Benjamin influenced Derrida, idiot.
Doubtful.
http://materialisttheology.blogspot.de/2012/10/walter-benjamin-seminar-at-jan-van-eyck.html
No.603223
>>603190
I honestly don't see how Benjamin or Derrida being influenced by Jewish mysticism is that big of a deal. Mystical exegesis of the Torah is where literature criticism began.
No.603240
>>603223
>I honestly don't see how Benjamin or Derrida being influenced by Jewish mysticism is that big of a deal.
Because it isn't.
>Mystical exegesis of the Torah is where literature criticism began.
Indeed.
No.603314
>>603189
Foucault and Lacan are far more to blame for this bullshit than Frankfurt, or Derrida, or Baudrillard.
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>>603223
>>603240
Is there any evidence Derrida was influenced by kaballah? Benjamin is speculated to have been (even though I've never seen anything saying he was) but all the postmodernist stuff is completely new to me.
No.603415
>>603150
>this is what vulgar Marxists actually believe (about the Frankfurt School)
No.603441
where any of them religious? or were they atheist nfluenced by religion?
No.603598
>>603314
You have no idea what you are talking about.
No.603796
>>603441
Benjamin was probably religious.
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/my-friend-walter-benjamin/
Adorno hated religion to my knowledge. Fromm didn't have a problem with religion as long as it wasn't authoritarian.
>>603598
I'd say American interpretations of Foucault gave us the academic mess we're in now. As for Lacan, I doubt anyone without a grad school degree can understand him.
No.603848
The only thing I can say about this is "cultural marxism" is one of the prime reasons why rightwingers want to curbstomp marxists who are more left than the socialdemocrats. Been listening to many debates on this sitting in the middle and just looking on the left and right fighting.
No.603854
>>603796
I've never read Foucault but I'm pretty much set up to hate him. I like Zizek, Benjamin, Marcuse etc. but I've had so many professors name-drop Foucault and it always pisses me off. His whole weltanschauung presents itself as more radical than Marxism but it's just idealism. It treats all forms of power as "Power". The idea that power always cloaks itself in knowledge, or "regimes of power-knowledge", is bullshit. It's been known for decades that global warming is real, yet has that taken any power away from the oil companies? U.S. foreign policy, neoliberalism, big pharma, etc. are often wildly irrational and demonstrably wrong (even if you accept their goals), yet they're still hegemonic. Also he definitely contributed to the Left's phobia of power - we should just resist Power until the end of time, and taking power in order to stop "resisting" like Sisyphus is forbidden.
sorry for the rant
No.603866
>>603854
>The idea that power always cloaks itself in knowledge
Interesting - I don't know anything about Foucault. Does he define knowledge in the ordinary way as "justified true belief" or does he have his own meaning for the word in this context? It seems like knowledge must mean something else to him since power structures often seem to be built on lies or mythology rather than truth; this might be called belief but I don't see it as justified or true. Or as you said, a worldview might imply false statements about the world as with climate change denial - it's hard to see the influence of modern capitalism as being cloaked in knowledge in this case. Although I'm probably not understanding the idea correctly, I suppose.
No.603870
>>603866
Like I said, I've never actually read him, so I may be misinterpreting him (or, I should say, my professors are misinterpreting him). Here's the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy:
>The examination (for example, of students in schools, of patients in hospitals) is a method of control that combines hierarchical observation with normalizing judgment. It is a prime example of what Foucault calls power/knowledge, since it combines into a unified whole “the deployment of force and the establishment of truth” (184). It both elicits the truth about those who undergo the examination (tells what they know or what is the state of their health) and controls their behavior (by forcing them to study or directing them to a course of treatment).
>On Foucault's account, the relation of power and knowledge is far closer than in the familiar Baconian engineering model, for which “knowledge is power” means that knowledge is an instrument of power, although the two exist quite independently. Foucault's point is rather that, at least for the study of human beings, the goals of power and the goals of knowledge cannot be separated: in knowing we control and in controlling we know.
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>>603870
It just seems to be an interesting notion of "truth"; the truth component of this knowledge seems to be nothing more than a fact about the existence of some properly-established worldview. I guess I have trouble seeing this phenomenon as power-knowledge rather than a social imprinting of false beliefs, this falseness originating in the idea that the worldview is necessarily the only possible way of interpreting the world.
No.603914
>>603854
>His whole weltanschauung presents itself as more radical than Marxism but it's just idealism.
DING DING DING.
This is a very standard Marxist critique of post-structuralism.
>Also he definitely contributed to the Left's phobia of power - we should just resist Power until the end of time,
Pretty much. The Left has become infantile because it fears doing wrong. It doesn't want to seize the state apparatus because it would rather play martyr and get the sympathy points.
No.603922
>>603854
>>603870
>>603881
Foucault's point is not "knowledge is power", but power to control knowledge/truth generates more power.
Furthermore, Foucault was much more descriptive than his spawn claim him to be, most of his analysis are "this is how it works, deal with it" rather than any call for white cis men to check their muh privilege.
No.603923
>>603914
>The Left has become infantile because it fears doing wrong. It doesn't want to seize the state apparatus because it would rather play martyr and get the sympathy points.
Nobody wants USSR 2.0
So we have leftists who will do or say whatever is required for them to NOT be perceived that way
And leftists who are genuinely scared that that could happen
No.603928
>>603922
>Foucault's point is not "knowledge is power", but power to control knowledge/truth generates more power.
Yeah, I understood that part. My question was about how he is using the word "knowledge". If he's using it in the common way, does that mean human beings have the power to create every sense of truth in the process of generating knowledge-power?
No.603934
>>603928
Knowledge/truth as Foucault uses it includes "ideology" - but also real knowledge, so I'm not sure if one can pin him down as a relativist. I don't Foucault was ever that interested in the actual truth, as much as how people use the claim to truth - we can say Foucault leaves the base as a complete blank and only focuses on the superstructure.
I think his decision to not touch upon the latter in his analysis is why he (and others) could move towards neoliberalism later in life - unlike earlier structuralist philosophers like Althusser the post-structuralists simply never bothered to create a complete theory.
No.603940
"How to redbait in an age when there are fewer reds in power than at any time since 1917"
Christ, has it really been that long?
No.603946
>>603934
Very interesting. I'll have to read more about it. It does seem that if we subdivide truth into a sort of ideological truth that is a component of knowledge-power and empirical truths that are independent of human social activity that it weakens his claims to "power is wrapped up in ideology". But I'm not sure that it's making a profound critique of sentiments like "knowledge is power", since knowledge in this sense typically means knowledge of empirical or scientific truths.
No.604818
>>603914
>This is a very standard Marxist critique of post-structuralism.
Are there Marxist critiques of Foucault? I know Alex Callinicos has a book on postmodernism generally but it might be bullshit
>>603923
But it's gone further than that. I don't want another Red Terror, but these people don't even want leftist parties or Allende-type left governments. "Changing the world without taking power" is their slogan. They have a fetish for civil society. Look at Greenpeace - lots of good activism no doubt, but what have they really accomplished?
>What I said before and what you’re raising now as well is the main thing: we need to learn that we can protest until the cows come home and we will never change the world. You can’t change the world without taking power, although the opposite was a slogan very popular on the alter-globalization left and is also to some extent popular on the ecological left (which heaven knows is doing wonderful work with its protests). Yet apart from the Green parties that aren’t very radical, ecosocialists are more engaged in protest than party-building.
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No.604921
>>604818
>Look at Greenpeace - lots of good activism no doubt, but what have they really accomplished?
Stopping French nuclear testing in the Pacific, faggot.
No.604930
>>603796
There is literally nothing wrong with postmodernism.
Also:
>linking to a zionist rag like commentary
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>>603190
>>603196
To be fair, Adorno thought Benjamin's theory of language was similar in many ways to Heidegger's (who was unquestionably influenced by the occult and Germanic paganism).
I'd also look up the Sefer Yetzirah and what it says about the Jewish god using language to create everything. Tell me that doesn't sound like PoMo.
No.605011
>>604921
In 1974.
> If, today, one follows a direct call to act, this act will not be performed in an empty space; it will be an act within the hegemonic ideological coordinates: those who "really want to do something to help people" get involved in (undoubtedly honorable) exploits like Doctors without Borders, Greenpeace, feminist and antiracist campaigns, which are all not only tolerated but even supported by the media, even if they seemingly enter economic territory (say, denouncing and boycotting companies that do not respect ecological conditions or that use child labor).
>Otherwise the momenturn will be lost, and what will remain is a marginal disturbance, perhaps organized as a new Greenpeace, endowed with a certain efficiency but also strictly limited goals, marketing strategy, and so forth. In other words, the key Leninist lesson today is that politics without the organizational form of the party is politics without politics, so the answer to those who want just the (quite adequately named) new social movements is the same as the answer of the Jacobins to the Girondin compromisers: "You want revolution without a revolution!"
Zizek
No.605076
Adorno & Horkheimer are based tbqh, you can't even hate on them unless you're an euphoric idiot
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Le jew marxist culturalist meme
No.605101
>>605076
>based
In what ways?
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>>605101
>Contemporary society exhibits, in spite of all assertions to the contrary, as its dynamism and increase of production, static aspects. These include the relations of production. These are no longer merely the property of the owner, but of the administration, all the way to the role of the state as total capitalist. To the extent that its rationalization converges with technical rationality, a.k.a. the productive forces, they've undeniably become more flexible. This has created the illusion that the universal interest has its ideal as the status quo and universal employment, not the liberation of heteronomous work. But this condition, from an external political position quite labile, is a merely temporary balance, the result of forces, whose tension threatens to disrupt it. Inside the dominant relations of production, humanity is virtually its own reserve army of labor and is fed through as such. Marx’s expectation, that the primacy of the productive forces was certain to explode the relations of production, was all too optimistic. To that extent Marx remained, as the sworn enemy of German idealism, true to its affirmative construction of history. Trusting in the world-spirit benefited the justification of later versions of that world-order which, according to the eleventh thesis on Feuerbach, was to have been changed. The relations of production have out of sheer self-preservation continued to subjugate the unbound forces of production, through piecework and particular measures. The signature of the epoch is the preponderance of the relations of production over the productive forces, which have nonetheless mocked these relations for some time. That the extended arm of humanity can reach to distant and empty planets, but that it cannot create peace on Earth, highlights the absurdity, towards which the social dialectic is moving. That things happened otherwise than was hoped for is not least due to the fact that the society has ingested what Veblen called the “underlying population.” But the only ones who could wish that this be undone, are those who put the happiness of the abstract totality over that of living individual beings. This development depends for its part once again on that of the productive forces. It was never identical, though, with its primacy over the relations of production. This was never imagined as something mechanical. Its realization had for its precondition the spontaneity of those who were interested in the transformation of the relations, and their number has surpassed the actual industrial proletariat several times over. Objective interest and subjective spontaneity yawn wide from each other; these wither under the disproportionate hegemony of the existent. The sentence of Marx, that theory, too, becomes a genuine force as soon as it seizes the masses, has been turned flagrantly upside down by the course of the world. If the constitution of the world, through planned measures or automatically, hinders the simplest cognition and experience of the most threatening events and indispensable critical ideas and theorems by means of the culture- and consciousness-industries; if it hamstrings, far beyond this, even the basic capacity to imagine the world differently than it overwhelmingly appears to be to those who constitute this world, then these locked-up and manipulated intellectual and spiritual conditions become indeed a genuine power, that of repression, just what its opposite, the emancipated Mind [Geist: mind, spirit, intellect], once wished to combat.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/adorno/1968/late-capitalism.htm
No.605636
>>603240
>>I honestly don't see how Benjamin or Derrida being influenced by Jewish mysticism is that big of a deal.
>Because it isn't.
It is, because it proves critical theory and deconstruction to be based on total bullshit.
No.606513
>>605636
Again, I don't see why it's a big deal. Sure, Benjamin was influenced by the mysticisms, but you would be hard put to find a continental philosopher who wasn't mystically-inclined in some way.
No.606519
>Totality and homosexuality belong together. While the subject falls apart, it negates everything which is not of its own kind. The opposites of the strong man and the compliant youth fuse into a social order, which unreservedly asserts the masculine principle of domination. By making everyone, without exception – even presumed subjects – into its objects, it recoils into total passivity, virtually into what is feminine.
As a faggot, Adorno was quite right.
No.606525
>>603923
>Nobody wants USSR 2.0
No.606689
>>605158
Hell yes. Negative Dialectics was a huge redpill for me. I recommend Adorno's work to everyone.
>>606513
Benjamin was great. If he were alive today he'd be looking for the nitzotzot in Kanye West songs and oversized hairbows.
No.607984
>>593994
This is poetry. G_d bless.
No.609070
>>594005
All of them were reactionaries.
No.609100
>>593978
> Frankfurt School
literal shit
>the conspiracy theories surrounding it
shit on wheels
>>609070
this
No.610286
>>593994
Judaism's moral absolutism and ethnocentricism have no place in Marxism.