No.605683
Anyone know of any decent leftist-themed sci fi?
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No.605693
>>605687
"15 Million Merits" was great
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No.605723
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_to_Be_a_God
There's a PC game based on it as a sequel, it's how I learned about the book, game was ok but buggy, interesting story.
No.605727
The Culture series by Iain M. Banks
No.605738
>tfw no planet
Kin dza dza
>tfw no planet gf
Solaris
marginally leftist
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No.605757
Star Wars: Liberalism Strikes Back
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>>605866
Being this triggered by foreigners
No.605963
Sometimes the answers that you're looking for are more obvious than it first appears.
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No.606001
Red Star by Alexander Bogdanov
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>>605693
That was the memey-ist one, the more subtle stuff like political performance art I thought were handled better. Also the game show with murderers.
No.606048
Also Frederick Pohl, The Space Merchants or Gateway.
Phillip K Dick, some of it.
The new wave of sci fi in general
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>>605945
meant to bump this too
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>>605683
It eschews leftist terms but the situation in The Expanse shows what a porky-dominated future is like and depicts class struggle amongst the proletarian "Belters" (the people that live and work out in the Asteroid Belt harvesting minerals and H2O) and the inner planets of Mars (depicted as something of a liberal democracy) and Earth (which seems to be somewhat aristocratic and oppressive).
But then it turns out the corporations are behind everything, including trying to stir up an interplanetary war
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>>605948
leftypol memes really are something else
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No.606812
You mean "most science fiction"?
No.607118
Bas Lag trilogy has socialist undertones. Or overtones, in the case of the last book. Also I suppose Mieville's other books are similar.
The Fall Revolution series by Ken McLeod. A bit scatterbrained, but cool.
Also: http://theweeklyansible.tumblr.com/post/20777236577/50-sci-fi-fantasy-works-every-socialist-should
>>605727
>tfw no more Culture novels ever again
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>>607118
Tfw no more cheeky banter between super intelligent spaceships. That was something special.
The Culture series is fully automated luxury communism, so it's very futuristic. It's also hard sci-fi, very well thought out, very little suspension of disbelief required. My favourite. The books are also a gazillion pages long, so not a quick read, deep immersion.
I think sci fi tends to make socialism somewhat transhuman or reliant on superior ai.
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>>607118
I did a writing course with Ken Mcleod, good guy. Labour guy tho :(
No.607447
the mars trilogy from I don't remember who
No.607649
Here's a short story from /grim/
In a vast physics sandbox pocket reality there exists a scrapyard filled with all the coolest scrap from all sorts of post-industrial age civilizations in other realities. In this scrapyard there exists a hill of scrap down which a bolt happened to roll and snag onto a fan which snagged on to a muffler which brought along a whole lot of other scrap, creating a ball of scrap. The hill was very steep, infinetely steep. At some point the ball of scrap became molten on the inside due to all the accumulated scrap, and at that that point it developed a very strong electromagnetic field, so strong in fact that as it rolled down the hill, it charged old devices. Fusion reactors overloaded all throughout the hills, distributing energy around as well. The entire scrapyard became glowing with electrical and radioactive activity. All this provided the perfect conditions for a particularly well insulated powerful computer with an ambient radiation to electricity array to undergo the changes it needed to undergo to erronously spawn a conciousness into the hellish depths of the scrapyard. Through the energy array the being was able to detect its outside world, using measures of ambient electricity for sight, and changes in gravity for hearing. It could detect everything in the whole scrapyard almost. But it had no spooks because there was no society around it, and nobody to say the place it was in was hellish or nice. The sentience processed shit and studied things, then eventually it became part of the mega-blackhole that the scrapyard turned into due to gravity.
A normie might say "well its clear that the existence of the sentience was completely meaningless and death was inevitable for it". They do not realize that they are the scrapyard and I am the sentience.
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>>607383
>I think sci fi tends to make socialism somewhat transhuman or reliant on superior ai.
Now that you meantion it, yeah it does. That reminds me of something I read god-knows-where, about the failure of socialism ultimately being a failure of human imagination to conceive of a better world which is attainable.
No.611565
>>608042
I don't see it as a failure of the imagination, but of human nature. Whatever we imagine the tribal nature of humans ruins things. The hard question is what changes are acceptable.
Anti disease are the easiest to accept.
Phsyical modifications will happen, but this may result in a disturbing amount of homogeneity. Also a divide between the people who can and cannot afford it.
Mental modifications will be the hardest. This is where we truly start to push against the definition of humanity and mental freedom.
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>>611565
>human nature
who let this idiot in here
No.611596
>>605743
Psycho-Pass plays off as being leftist, but the whole 'let's just not change le system' ending of the first season is pure liberal ideology.
>>605963
This is a good example though. I'd also like to say that 80% of the cyberpunk books by William Gibson are also fairly leftist. Cyberpunk as a genre has always had this anarcho-communist leaning to it.
>>611565
>human nature
>tribal nature
Yeah, no thanks.
No.611613
The Matrix is a labored metaphor for capitalist exploitation and ideology.
The Wachowskis even wanted an old bearded guy to play Morpheus.
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>>605683
At first I thought your pic was supposed to be Soviet Back To The Future, but instead of a decadent DeLorean, he drives a Lada.
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>>611596
Yuiposter is here? I haven't seen him in months.
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>>611613
>The Matrix is a labored metaphor for capitalist exploitation and ideology.
Honestly The Matrix is so vague that it can be considered to be a metaphor for any number of ideologies. There's a reason why libertarians, conspiracy-theorists and liberals always see what they want to see in that movie.
>>611765
I'm back baby, with a vengeance!
No.612138
>>611777
It's not all that vague. Like "They Live", it's a very obvious metaphor for capitalism. The idea of robots using humans as batteries doesn't make sense on a science fiction level, because they would consume more energy than they generate. It only works as a metaphor for capitalist exploitation and the dreamworld of ideology. But just like libertarians, conspiracy theorists, liberals and fascists perceive their fictional bogeymen at work within capitalism, they perceive them in fiction as well. Even in explicitly anti-capitalist fiction, like "They Live" and "The Matrix".
No.612145
John Frankenheimer's Seconds, Jacques Tati's PlayTime, David Cronenberg's Videodrome.
No.612150
A Bolshevik wrote a book about Bolshies colonizing Mars.
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>>605695
Star Trek is a nice Technocracy propaganda piece… combining the best of Socialism, Technocracy, and Democracy…
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>>612138
>The idea of robots using humans as batteries doesn't make sense on a science fiction level, because they would consume more energy than they generate.
The Wachowskis actually explained that once.
Originally they wanted the machines to use the computing power of the human brains but they decided to change it to actual energy because they feared that it would be too complicated for the audience or something.
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>>612418
>computing power of the human brains
Wouldn't it be easier to build a supercomputer? They already have sentient robots, what can a human brain do that their artificial ones can't?
No.612436
>tfw almost all popular leftist themed fiction is pics related
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No.612931
Do Androids Dream of Electronic Sheep?, the book Blade Runner is based on. Classic cyberpunk. More of a warning of how horrible a capitalist future would be than an argument in favor of socialism, but its still great.
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The Mars trilogy is about a bunch of scientists who colonize Mars and build a new society there.
After a few decades of seeing their once-virgin world ravaged by capitalist exploitation, some of the more politically-minded launch an armed insurrection aiming to overthrow the UN-chartered transnational corporations and establish an independent libertarian socialist society on Mars.
Another major plot thread is environmentalism, with civil war nearly breaking out at one point between the Greens (pro-terraforming liberals and socialists) and Reds (anti-terraforming anarchists). Back on Earth, shit goes to hell when the ice sheets melt and it gradually gets more polluted and overcrowded.
I won't spoil them any more for you but they're excellent books and well worth the read.
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>>613004
I think they are making a film out of these aren't they or is it Red Rising?