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File: 1458530509508.jpg (25.36 KB, 573x321, 191:107, llcorientalism.jpg)

 No.608924

http://planetearthliberation.blogspot.fr/2016/03/the-leading-light-communist.html

>This is a warning directed to activists and revolutionaries, particularly those residing in the North-American continent: if you value the safety and well-being of yourselves as well as that of your comrades, stay away from this organization. The Leading Light Communist Organization, who will henceforth be referred to by their chosen acronym, the LLCO, are a police front, or are working closely with the police vis a vis informant work, agent provocateur incursion within radical left groups and organizations, pig disinformation, psychological tactics and entrapment.

 No.608926

Color me shocked. There's a Maoist group in my city, they're insufferable. They literally go on about the RAF in public meetings. I saw one of them, this skinny MTF trans woman, try to fight a cop who must have weight twice what she did. They're probably infiltrated already.


 No.608928

>doesn't allow tor

>advocates turrismz,

>crude shoop jobs

As if we didn't already know they were cops.


 No.608931

Oh shit. Unsubscring from their YouTube channel right now


 No.608932

>>608931

They have a Jewtube?


 No.608935

>>608932

Yeah, the channel name is shubel Morgan, I think


 No.608937

>>608924

>LLCO

Isn't that Jason Unrooo's group?


 No.608938

Wowie, some stupid blog claimed it, so it must be true. Nevermind that Third Worldism is the only communist movement that has actually accomplished anything, clearly we should listen to some revisionist tell us how to conduct ourselves


 No.608940

>>608938

>Nevermind that Third Worldism is the only communist movement that has actually accomplished anything,

>B-A-I-T


 No.608941

>>608938

Jason?


 No.608943

File: 1458531002537.png (65.16 KB, 489x313, 489:313, maoist-rebel-liar.png)

>>608937

Not anymore.


 No.608945

>>608940

>>608941

Oh right, I forgot about all those Communist revolutions in America, Britain, and other cushy first world countries. Silly me.


 No.608946

File: 1458531031769.png (368.51 KB, 699x589, 699:589, 11.png)


 No.608948

>>608938

Dropping acid in your mom's basement isn't much of an accomplishment.


 No.608949


 No.608950

>>608948

I guess the Soviet Union wasn't much of an accomplishment either according to you

>>608949

>some post-modernist blog

>btfoing anything


 No.608951

>The only evidence the LLCO provided for their claim that the so-called "LLCO Bangla zone" even exists are a few grainy, low-quality photographs of Bangladeshi men and women, their faces uncovered (interestingly, some of the women are in traditional Hindu garb) holding LLCO booklets and iconography.

This is a dead giveaway.

There is no way in hell a group of Maoist insurgents waging war on the government of a sovereign state would willingly agree to allow their faces to be made public. For God's sake, Greek anarchists refuse to show their faces, and Greece is far less of a police state than Bangladesh.


 No.608952

>>608950

>>some post-modernist blog

You don't even know what postmodernism is, or why it's at odds with Marxism.

Learn some theory.


 No.608955

>>608952

This guy is literally a bourgeoisie liberal who publishes fiction books and dabbles in Marxism poorly. How is he supposed to be a reputable source to an actual proletarian like Jason?


 No.608957

>>608943

So, the LLCO kicked Unruhe out? Good. I can't imagine why any self-respecting Marxist org. would keep Unruhe around.

>>608950

>I guess the Soviet Union wasn't much of an accomplishment either according to you

kek. The USSR actually existed, unlike Third Worldists.


 No.608958

"1. How did they establish this "liberated zone," if not by armed struggle?

2. Why can't we find anything about this "liberated zone" in the Bangladeshi news media? Indian news never lets up with its anti-Maoist, anti-Naxalite propaganda.

3. Why are Bangladeshi communists turning to a bunch of young white kids from Denver for Maoist theory and orientation?"

THIS


 No.608959

>>608957

Leninism is the prototype to Maoism, which in turn directly leads to Maoist Third Worldism. Fitting, considering the Russian Revolution happened in a third world country.


 No.608960

>>608955

I don't care if he's bourgeois or what. He destroyed Jason Unruhe's ridiculous ideology.


 No.608962

>>608960

No, he actually didn't


 No.608963

>>608959

>which in turn directly leads to Maoist Third Worldism

Why were there more prominent Maoists in Paris in the 1960s than there are in most "Third World" countries today?

Also, why did so many of those French Maoists become bourgeois intellectuals down the line? Why did they turn to the right, rather than to Turd Worldism?


 No.608964

>>608958

>2. Why can't we find anything about this "liberated zone" in the Bangladeshi news media? Indian news never lets up with its anti-Maoist, anti-Naxalite propaganda.

Because they don't exist. Those pics of "Bangladeshi LLCO" are clearly shooped. Most of them look like photos of photos.


 No.608965

>>608962

Jason, I know this is you. How does it feel to know your former friends have betrayed you?


 No.608967

>>608963

All real marxists are third worldists, this especially applies to those in third world countries obvious.

>>608965

I'm not Jason. Just someone who felt like tackling this little hive of liberalism


 No.608968

>>608962

>The reality is that people’s revolutions are easier to execute than proletarian revolutions. They do not require as high a level of organization or consciousness because the bourgeoisie is not threatened by this kind of revolution, which seeks to “regulate capitalism”, not abolish it. As we have already seen, in Maoist practice, the boss class has been deemed a trusted ally of the workers; there need be no antagonistic contradiction between exploited and exploiter classes. Swallowing this class-struggle-negationist lie guarantees that so-called “people’s revolutions” will always lead to neocolonialism. The progressiveness of the petty bourgeoisie and national-bourgeoisie is a myth; capitalism is a global system and the law of capitalism is to make profits, not serve the people. “Third Worldists” have more in common with Robert Reich and Teddy “The Trust Buster” Roosevelt than with revolutionists; their goal being to break “monopoly capitalism”, not capitalism tout court.

Jason didn't even address this.


 No.608969

>>608967

Bullshit, you sound identical to Jason.


 No.608970

>>608967

Except most Marxist scholars and activists do NOT adhere to the obscure and laughable dogma known as "Third Worldism". In fact, most Marxists in the Third World don't even adhere to a Third Worldist platform, but an internationalist one.


 No.608971

>>608967

Do you recognize me Jason?


 No.608972

>>608970

They are third worldist by default by virtue of living in a third world country.

>>608969

>>608971

Is it so hard to believe that not everyone follows your infantile corruption of leftist theory?


 No.608974

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>>608967

Hello Jason!


 No.608976

>>608967

We're waiting patiently for your rap video, Jason.


 No.608977

File: 1458532361365.jpg (56.02 KB, 900x600, 3:2, insane-clown-posse.jpg)

>>608976

Here it is so far:

>If alienation is all we've ever known

Then it's easy to miss what really goes on

But I've seen superexploitation in every way

And I see first-worldism everyday

Sweatshops spanning beyond my sight

And a million Asians workin' em at night

We don't have to be black to see whitey fry

And know that's a miracle opened wide

They're in the mountains, trigger squeeze, hair infested with fleas

First-world Marxists chilling in the cities, please

Hipsters, SJWs, Mike Ely and other Imperialist dogs

Avakian and Lucero are the system's cogs

And I've seen eighty-five thousand death-threats

All in one night, from Sakada and Marxist Memes

Pure Revolution is the birth of my Sami kids

Red and with slanted eyelids

Africa, Asia, Latin-America, and even Mars

Whitey's colonized The Milky Way and even fucking shooting stars

UFOs that Posadists drove

Crack cooking on Harlem stoves

Niagara falls will look like Fallujah when I'm done

Once I'm done spitting Imma load up my gun

Fucking Ponies, yes, goddamn ponies, flush 'em down the drain

There's enough first-worldism here to make me blow your brains


 No.608978

>>608972

>They are third worldist by default by virtue of living in a third world country.

Even when they sell out to Western corporations?


 No.608980

File: 1458532417449.png (550.02 KB, 620x820, 31:41, 1427997099425.png)

>>608977

>Posadist intergalatic imperialism

Now this is something I can get behind!


 No.608981

>>608977

Wait, Jason claims to be Sami? Isn't he aware that Sami =/= Native Americans?


 No.608984

>>608972

>They are third worldist by default by virtue of living in a third world country.

I'm sure. Which is why the Naxals came out in solidarity with Occupy?

>Is it so hard to believe that not everyone follows your infantile corruption of leftist theory?

"Maoist" Third Worldism has more in common with bourgeois postcolonial theory than Marxism. You know, post-modernism.

>>608981

He assumes the Sami were "virtually identical to Native Americans" (which I'm assuming he means Inuit or Aleut peoples) before they bred with Swedes despite the fact that the Cherokee have interbreeded with whitey for centuries and yet still maintain their Native American-looking features. Not to mention, the Sami language has zero cognates with any Inuit or Aleut language and is nearly identical to Finnish and to a lesser extent Estonian (both 100% white European).


 No.608985

>>608984

^^^^^^^^^


 No.608988

File: 1458532767008.png (335.5 KB, 618x412, 3:2, camille.png)

Someone mention postmodernism?


 No.608989

File: 1458532832748.png (3.4 KB, 209x212, 209:212, Laughing dude.png)

>>608988

>mfw SJWs get their PoMo methodology straight from Martin Heidegger and Paul de Man, both of them nefarious Nazis


 No.608991

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 No.608994


 No.609000

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>>608952

>postmodernism at odds with Marxism

>>608989

A nefarious Nazi that Sartre borrowed heavily from


 No.609002

Welp, looks like we've scared Jason away.


 No.609005

>>609000

Pretty sure Foucault is hated by most Marxists.


 No.609008

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>>608938

>Third Worldism is the only communist movement that has actually accomplished anything


 No.609009

>>609005

>Foucault is all of postmodernism

Postmodernism isn't one thing


 No.609011

>>609009

Okay, but I've never seen a Marxist champion deconstruction as anything more than academic masturbation.

Derrida is incomprehensible.


 No.609012

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>>608938

>Nevermind that Third Worldism is the only communist movement that has actually accomplished anything, clearly we should listen to some revisionist tell us how to conduct ourselves

http://commonruin.wordpress.com/2015/06/15/first-world-phantoms/


 No.609015

File: 1458534638620-0.png (223.34 KB, 474x352, 237:176, implying.png)

File: 1458534638620-1.jpg (407.22 KB, 1169x1772, 1169:1772, althusser13ruedesarchives.jpg)

>>609011

>deconstruction

Another non-essential part of pomo.

>le fashionable nonsense

Some pomo writing is inflated emptiness but to dismiss it entirely is Dawkins-tier


 No.609018

File: 1458534681267-0.jpg (17.94 KB, 198x200, 99:100, althusser meme2.jpg)

File: 1458534681268-1.jpg (114.75 KB, 715x900, 143:180, althusser_helene.jpg)

File: 1458534681268-2.jpg (29.98 KB, 503x417, 503:417, althusser-meme.jpg)

>>609015

Althusser's my boy.


 No.609024


 No.609027

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 No.609031

>>609027

>the subtle CP's in the background

KEK


 No.609035

I wish most modern Third Worldists would go back to the writings of the Weathermen, SLA, and RAF.


 No.609037

File: 1458535365677.jpg (215.32 KB, 900x600, 3:2, greenwich-townhouse-explos….jpg)

>>609035

>writings

Fuck that shit, I wish they would just blow themselves up in daddy's townhouse


 No.609039

>>609037

Fuck off.


 No.609040

>>609039

Have you ever read their writings?


 No.609044

>>608938

Thank you for your support for Porkies.


 No.609047

>>609040

Yes. I've read Prairie Fire: The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-Imperialism, The Urban Guerilla Concept, the Weathermen Underground's communiques and poetry, some of the SLA's writings and communiques, the Weathermen's manifesto, etc.


 No.609048

>>608938

Jason, fuck off.


 No.609051

>>608988

Gotta love Camille "going psychotic on the semiotic" Paglia.


 No.609077

>Conspicuously, the LLCO's website (llco.org) blocks the proxy browser, Tor, which protects one's IP address and identity. In other words, the LLCO tracks visitor's IP addresses, and does not permit online anonymity on their website. If that doesn't scream FBI honey pot, I don't know what does.

This is another smoking gun they're a fake organization.


 No.609086

>>608945

Maoism Third Worldism is, ironically enough, almost entirely a first world movement.


 No.609095

File: 1458540389157.png (192.24 KB, 1136x640, 71:40, 1458521766779.png)


 No.609097

>>609086

I have yet to see any Marxist organization from the Third World claim white people can never be exploited, or that nation outweighs class (which is the crux of TWist theory). Even Palestinians express a desire to "re-Arabize" Mizrahi Jews in Israel.


 No.609130

So what methods are there to stop police infiltration? How do you know if someone's undercover?


 No.609131

>>609095

Jason said he won't go on this site. Too much pizza.


 No.609137

>>609130

Warn everyone about the LLCO. Post the blog link to multiple FB pages and get people talking.


 No.609173

>>608924

Someone with a plebbit account post to /r/socialism or /r/communism.


 No.609220

>>608924

So why they do this? Are they trying to agitate between left and right?


 No.609243

>>609027

Kek. Context? Loving the Althusser dump.


 No.609621

>>609220

Informants generally lure in naive activists who are new to the game, provoke them into breaking the law, tell them they can get out of jail time if they do informant work, and then get them to infiltrate other activist circles.


 No.609865

>>609012

>38 years

Is that really how old Unroooo is?

I remember when he first started making videos six years ago and everyone thought he was no older than 16.


 No.609887

>>608938

Hello Jason-Sama. Where is the rap song?


 No.609995

Jason should have at least been an honorable mention here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezOb9Ii-wM4


 No.610304

They defend El Chapo and compare him to Che and Marcos.

http://llco.org/stop-the-extradition-of-el-chapo-to-the-imperialists/


 No.610553

>>609243

Honestly, Maoist Third Worldists take a shitload of Althusser's ideas out-of-context.


 No.610592

It might be hindsight goggles, but "Leading Light" sounds obvious. They probably conflated the mautists with some satanic/doomsday cultists.


 No.610712

>>608945

Yeah, because those jihadis are totally fighting for communism.


 No.610743

>>610712

>Assad is a Jihadi


 No.610749

>>610743

Assad murdered communists.

Ba'ath Party has always been anti-communist in ideology. They only sucked up to the USSR for guns and money.


 No.610751

>>610749

Ba'ath party literally translates to "socialist nationals". The only "communists" they've killed are probably trots and revisionists, so I'm all in favor of that


 No.610755

>>610751

The socialism of Ba'ath is closer to turd position than anti-revisionist Marxism-Leninism-Maoism.


 No.610779

>>610755

It's the closest thing to actual Marxism and the middle east and doesn't fall prey to revisionism, so I'll take what I can get, thanks


 No.610820

File: 1458619642816.jpg (669.08 KB, 2130x1432, 1065:716, aSAWoq7.jpg)

>>610751

>"Socialist Nationals"

Sounds like National-Socialism.


 No.610889

File: 1458622113107.jpg (90.38 KB, 500x500, 1:1, Propeller Hat.jpg)

>>610820

roads

war

babyz

= success


 No.610895

File: 1458622317018.webm (4.78 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, unruhe navy seal copypast….webm)

POST YFW HE WAS RIGHT


 No.611069

>>610889

According to /pol/ yes.


 No.611115

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>>608926

RAF did nothin wrong.


 No.611907

>>610895

This never ceases to make me giggle like a schoolgirl.


 No.612248

>>608959

> Russian Revolution happened in a third world country.

No.


 No.612579

File: 1458695031745.jpg (296.73 KB, 700x929, 700:929, Butler hooks bad books.jpg)


 No.613909

>>612248

Pretty sure Russia at the time of the revolution was still heavily feudal, not much different than modern India.


 No.614047

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>>610820

Oh god this image is serious isn't it?


 No.614703

File: 1458782362605.png (228.59 KB, 627x403, 627:403, Screen shot 2016-03-24 at ….png)

lel


 No.614743

>>614703

He mad.


 No.614792

>>611115

They were heroes.


 No.614793

File: 1458786353988.png (252.62 KB, 608x451, 608:451, hhh.PNG)

>>614703

oh shit


 No.614800

>>614793

>his real surname is Caden

But that isn't Sami!


 No.614811

>>608924

It's kinda nice to see how much the capitalists are spending money to keep communism down, despite it being pretty much dead.

Guess they fear if they stop doing so, the workers will rise again.


 No.614813

>"revolutionary maoist army"

>supreme commander is literally a pasty white boy living in Denver


 No.614816

>>612248

russia at the time of the revolution was basically 3rd world dude


 No.614820

>>614816

Really? Who was exploiting Russia?

First/Third World designates a relationship, not just a standard of living.


 No.614877

>>614820

only according to Maoists.


 No.614883

>>614877

what

1st world is NATO aligned

2nd world is Warsaw Pact aligned

3rd world is unaffiliated


 No.614887

>>614883

This. The terms don't even make sense anymore. Only maoists would be dumb enough to use them.


 No.614888

>>614887

Three Worlds Theory has nothing to do with modern Third Worldism though.


 No.614907

>>614800

Wait, Jason claims to be Sami?


 No.614908

>>614888

True, ironically people seem to use the Maoist term these days.


 No.614911


 No.614940

>>614887

I use them to mean that though


 No.615064

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>>608938

Maoism is an utter failure.

The cultural revolution and pol pot killed it.


 No.615068

>>614703

>>614793

Looking at the comments, I'm laughing at how these dupes (Jason and his buddies) still fall for the LLCO's bullshit.


 No.615069

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>>610820

Nazi lies and misdirection.

Read Adam Tooze's "Wages of Destruction".


 No.615072

>>614911

>Unruhe thinks he's Sámi

He looks far more Irish or Mediterranean than Sámi. And the Sámi were never "red like the Native Americans". They were always blonde and blue-eyed, and have some of the "purest" European genes.

If the Sámi were "Native American" as Jason claims, then the Sámi languages would have similar vocabulary to Na-Diné, Uto-Aztecan, Aleutian, Inuit, or other Native American language families, which it doesn't. Sámi people are closely related to Finns and Estonians.


 No.615713

>>615072

>>614883

Mao himself considered the USA & the USSR to be the First World; Britain, France, Germany and smaller imperialist countries Second World, and colonized countries as Third World.

Calling imperial Russia in 1917 "Third World" is anachronistic because it is a post WWII concept. The ridiculous thing is that "Maoist Third Worldist" don't even use Mao's Theory of Three Worlds; they use the Three Worlds model used by Western political scientists during the Cold War, probably this reflects their roots in the RADACADS group from Harvard University.


 No.615729

>>608955

But I live in the Second World … therefore I am more proletarian than that First World dweller Jason Dumbruhe!


 No.615732

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 No.615750

>>615713

>Calling imperial Russia in 1917 "Third World" is anachronistic because it is a post WWII concept. The ridiculous thing is that "Maoist Third Worldist" don't even use Mao's Theory of Three Worlds; they use the Three Worlds model used by Western political scientists during the Cold War, probably this reflects their roots in the RADACADS group from Harvard University.

Fucking this.


 No.615776

>>615729

No comrade, being "First World" or "Third World" is entirely dependent on your mental state. So, a CEO of color who sympathizes with pan-Africanism is Third World whereas a racist white worker is First World. It's all in your head!


 No.615868

>>615732

This never gets old.


 No.616288

>>614703

>>614793

Jason will make a video about this in no time.


 No.616343

>>608938

Jason, I can prove to you in a very terse and easy way why Third Worldism fails: the entire ideology insists that Marxists in the Third World tail nationalist and sometimes religious-based struggles.

Don't believe me? Look at the anti-colonial struggles during the 50s and 60s and you'll notice how the vast majority of them resulted in bourgeois nationalism, which in turn lead to neo-colonialism by Western powers. In most of those cases, Marxists and other radical left factions were tailing bourgeois nationalists.

Or, look at the world today and how leftists are so eagerly tailing Islamic fundamentalists in hopes we can take advantage of their rage against the West.

TWism has no practical application. It's entirely rooted in a piss-poor reading of Edward Said.


 No.616630


 No.616680

>>616630

>I'M NOT JEWISH

Fucking lel.




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