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 No.610117

Continuation of >>593454

Once again, a day late thanks to just coming back from vacation. Better late than never.

You’re tuning in to the /leftypol/ reading group.

This edition:

Marxian Theory: thank Christ, FINALLY, this is what we came here for in the first place

This week’s flag is still Garl Margs, and the book is ‘’Marxian Economics through the book Contending Economic Theories: Neoclassical, Keynesian, and Marxian’’ by Richard Wolff. We’ve had a bit of a break with the last week in terms of length of content covered, so we’re going to push ahead now with the whole of Chapter 4 on Marxian theory (118 pages).

Here’s the link to a shared doc of the pdf so that annotations can be a bit more directly interactive between contributors:

https://web.kamihq.com/web/viewer.html?source=sharedfile&document_identifier=0B643jr5GO0mFa3lEdl9KaEF3a2s

(if you skip login, you can view and edit anonymously)

For those who don’t want to use this but still want to contribute, feel free to still submit annotation to pdfs as you like through the thread itself: I will be merging it all before we move on to the next book anyways.

Next week is still up in the air as to what we do. The poll I put out last week is still neck and neck, though if we don’t get a winner by next week, I’ll just say we’re moving on since it seems like a number of people have grown tired of this book.

http://strawpoll.me/7078008

As always, here is the poll for the flag order:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/328VDCZ

The next two topics I’ve personally decided will be anarchism and socialism respectively in order to give background for later material. However, after that, we’ll cover thing in the order that you guys vote on.

Along with the static reading list posted in the PDF file, here also a google doc for a continuously updated version that you are free to add suggestions/revisions to as you feel is right.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17QzZD613I_Tij-IEfL7gStzs3qgbie6T42MMlgWMUyo/edit?usp=sharing

 No.610126

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Here’s a bit of a rundown of what this group is about for those who missed the previous threads:

Every week, we start off with a new book or the continuation of a previous week’s book (I’d guess ~70-140 page range per week would be lenient enough for most people) whose theme is based off of one of the flags usable here on the board. Along the way, if people so chose, they make annotations here and there on whatever they want within the provided pdf (obviously avoid going into full-blown shitpost mode) and repost the pdf back into the thread (or make annotations through a shared doc). When we reach the end of what is contained within a provided file (be that one week or many), I’ll compile everyone’s notes together and make the combined file available in subsequent weeks either for active participants to see what everyone else thought was important or for newcomers to catch up while not missing out on what other people had to say.

A few goals I hope to accomplish with this project:

>Help assorted anons get into learning theory at a workable pace and with plenty of simultaneous feedback.

>Help to establish an “average” “or “standard” for what we might have expected people to have covered when posting in more intellectually-demanding threads.

>Create a collection of pdfs for important leftist literature that are annotated by fellow anons. This is to potentially give new insights for later individuals who decide to read into what we’ve covered and help new people get into it with the knowledge that “we’ve been there too.”

>Create a (somewhat) comprehensive but themed list of suggested reading materials based on the resulting “potential book list” by the end.

>Collect ideas for summarizing/simplifying key points of various examined theories so as to then present them in some coherent/entertaining fashion to the OC sticky. From there, maybe some drawfags or other OC makers might be interested in doing a few pieces that will assist later users in their understanding.

Archive:

Week 2

http://archive.is/iejGh


 No.610131

>>610117

Welcome back catposter. How was your vacation?


 No.610135

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Bit of a quiet week in terms of new community projects.

Community Shoutouts

/leftypol/ meetup:

>>606978

A few people have gotten into contact it seems. Maybe COINTELPRO, but that’s about it in terms of new community shit. Interesting to see where /leftypol/ is geographically at least.

Expand your education:

Remember to drop by our sister board >>>/freedu/ so that we can better assemble our materials for independent study purposes. In addition, when we finally do complete a book, I will post the merged annotation version of what we end up with in a thread over there.

Also don’t forget to drop by our other sites from time to time. The people over there get lonely, and we need to make sure we are aware of our point of retreat should something disastrous ever happen to this site.

http://www.getchan.net/

http://www.bunkerchan.org/

All OC creators needed:

In coordination with the fifth intended goal of this project, be sure to drop by the OC thread to help contribute (>>591357). We have a number of drawfags currently waiting on substantial suggestions to be pushed through: don’t leave them disappointed. This stands as an excellent opportunity to use our creative talents for educational purposes that can touch a broader userbase.

Bunkermag writers needed:

Bunkermag is always in need of new writers to contribute articles. As we proceed through this reading project, this might serve as an excellent opportunity to put your proficiency in your understanding and application of theory to the test.

http://bunkermag.org/

Leftybooru tagging:

We need people still to help out tagging images for ease of searching. If you want to help with that, just search “tagme,” pick an image, find “edit” near the bottom of the page, and start adding descriptors. No login required. Gotta make sure the organization of our dank memes keeps pace with our organization of workers. http://lefty.booru.org/


 No.610142

>>610129

A little shoutout to the anon who contributes regularly to leftybooru has done a spectacular job btw. I used to be pretty much the only one who put up memes on a regular basis, but this anon puts them up before I can most of the time! I will however continue to add tags and upload memes when I can.


 No.610151

>>610131

Breddy gud mate. Car trip around various parts of Florida over spring break.

My pasty white skin got scorched by the sun though. I have a rectangular, laptop-sized tan line just above my knees now after falling asleep trying to read at the beach. Not that it matters anyways: I'm returning to ~30°F weather back home for the next few weeks, so I'll be albino-esque again before anyone notices.

Disneyworld was pretty fun though. Haven't been there in years.

>>610142

Seconding in the appreciation for all you anons helping with leftyborru. I've been watching it here and there, and noticed that images get added there almost as quickly as they are posted here; mostly completed tags and everything. We've amassed quite the impressive collection in what seems like a short time of the site being up.


 No.610293

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Fucking finally


 No.610763

Thanks for doing this by the way OP. Come back every week so far.


 No.610772

So I and most people I know work in nonproductive labor. I work in retail, myself. How much surplus value is actually (or general value) do I really create?

I can understand how this pertains to construction or factory workers, but how does it affect me?


 No.610819

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>>610772

I'll offer a semi-educated answer.

You're a part of the global value chain that stretches from the labor that acquired the raw materials, to the factory, to the truck, and finally to the store. You're at the end point.

Without your labor things aren't sold: you're the guy who puts things on shelves, points people towards the specials, and takes their money, as well as doing a whole bunch of other shit that ensures the store runs efficiently.

So, yes, your labor is "non-productive" in the sense you aren't creating commodities, but you are ensuring they are sold which is a valuable service to the bourgeoisie, hence your position.

As to how much exactly? Dunno, only the boardroom might be able to give you a definite answer (if they cared about you individually). Lets say for simplicity's sake you and all your co-workers in all the stores in your chain are worth 25%, the other 75% going to the rest of the value chain.

Now, the company, in all likelihood, does not directly own and run all the companies that supply it as subsidiaries. But that surplus value generated from the rest of the chain still arrives in the store, and is then expanded again through your labor. Large chain stores, for example, are notorious for ripping off their suppliers. It buttresses their profit margins; it's exploitation on top of exploitation, all down the line.

Each company that supplies another has to have some kind of regular profit to survive and make the whole thing worthwhile, hence surplus labor is being extracted in every business that interacts to put a commodity on the shelves.

To wind things up, it affects you because every laborer before you has been exploited in order to squeeze a profit out of the operations that stocked your store: you have to be squeezed in turn to ensure that surplus value does not end up in your pocket undeservedly – it's not yours, it belongs to those who own the store, who argue that without their existence the value chain would not have been created in the first place.

This is what neoclassical theory has helped me understand: laborers get what they're worth, i.e. what they individually contribute to the value chain from dirt to store shelf. Porky, situated on top of his private property, hires others to make it productive and thus gives them a wage in return. As porky has the highest marginal productivity, by virtue of the property and technology owned by him, it is only natural he profits.


 No.610831

>>610819

I understand, so socialism isn't just capitalism with correct distribution of surplus value?


 No.610851

do you guys have anything for newbies? im not sure if im an anarchist and i want to read and understand the left before i "hurr durr fuck da poleez"


 No.610854

>>610831

No, it wants to end exploitation, not just ensure its proceeds are more equitably distributed.


 No.610866

>>610851

Depends. What have you read thus far if anything?

If you haven't read anything on anarchism, Now and After (What Is Anarchism?) by Berkman is a good start. Things like Kropotkin's Conquest of Bread are also pretty good, though it's technically ancom rather than "pure" anarchist. I know Mikhail Bakunin is more or less the most recognizable personality among anarchist theorists, but I personally find much of his work to be outdated and lacking compared to later writers.


 No.610875

>>610866

ok thanks i'll check out those right away. im saving some greenie anarchist stuff from OP's post for later.


 No.610876

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>>610851

>i want to read and understand the left

I found this on /leftypol/ a while ago and it helped me, though if you're an absolute beginner some of it might go over your head. It's pretty clear though, and it's not that long either. It's a good answer to what "the left" actually means.


 No.610881

>>610876

ok thanks im saving that. if you guys have anything for the absolute beginner i'll appreciate it.


 No.610898

>>610881

http://www.prole.info/

Go down to the section that says "WORK COMMUNITY POLITICS WAR" and download the pdf. It's a good, modern, general introduction.


 No.610905

>>610898

'preciated


 No.612683

>>610898

Hey, these comics aren't half bad. Shame they're just a bit too big of a file size to post on the board.


 No.612685

>>612683

You could try to reduce the file size if you would like:

https://smallpdf.com/compress-pdf


 No.612721

Damn, I'm already on chapter 7. This is so much great information, but what do I with it all? I don't really have educated people who I could talk with about the intricacies of economics


 No.613130

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>>612721

If you can't find many other people to talk about the intricacies of economics as you have said, then help make it less intricate. There are a lot of great details and concepts included through this book that are often overlooked in your usual leftist critique of capitalist economic systems. We need people to help take those most vital concepts and distill them into a more palatable form for those who might otherwise not have the time to read such lengthy works in what little free time they might have. As I see it, that can either take the shape of something formal like writing articles (bunkermag as an in-community example) or other independent works (collaborative OC as an in-community example), or just as reserved ammunition for the time when economic discussion does come up.

Either way, the focused ideas that circulate among the greater masses expands. We as the left, for those who have the time, interest, and educational background to do so, must take it upon ourselves to bring our own understanding of politics and society to the people we intend to liberate.


 No.613156

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>>610117

please add under Maoism


 No.613225

>>613130

So basically, I should transmit all of this in a simple way to everyone I know. OK, I will try. Usually politics and economics will not come up because people don't like to talk about it, but I will definetly try.

I think first I should think about all of it first, because its a huge load of info.

Also, just finished the book! First nonfiction book I've read in years, so I'm pretty fucking proud of myself


 No.613549

I've been reading contending economic theories for a while and I love it. Wolff is one of my favorite lecturers/writers on economics, he's great at explaining things very clearly and precisely. I reccomend this book for the same reason I recommend any commie to learn the basics of neoclassical and Keynesian economics, it allows you to have economic discussions outside of the narrow range of marxist and to understand how to critique/utilize more mainstream economic theory.


 No.614967

>>613156

Added. Completely forgot that some of Badiou's work would be applicable as Maoist given his ideological leanings back then.

>>613225

Good work comrade.

I think one of the things that I can say /leftypol/ has really hammered in for me is that the divide between political life and the rest of one's social life is largely an arbitrary distinction. Everything has a "political angle" to it; politics and the material conditions that create those politics shape our daily lives, and in turn our daily lives color our interpretation and perception of politics and our own material conditions. Sometimes it's just a matter of being subtle about the approach.

>>613549

I agree: I think it's important that we understand our opposition on their own terms, and be able to critique their stances in our own words and understanding. The last thing we want to do through the course of our studies is become broken records that just repeat quotes from Marx and the like.




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