No.611530
havent seen a discussion on this outside of /pol/ its funny since they seem more aware of current news and situations than us. so what do you guys think about refugees? are they the issue? should EU accept them? do you fear for your country's culture? what about the rape accusation, feminist shills or something to actually think about? how about the claim that 75% of refugees are males who dont need to get any help anywhere? what about the fact that the police are actively covering up for numerous refugee committed crimes? time to discuss some current event, comrades
No.611900
Asking whether the EU should accept refugees or not is a futile question in the first place. They are coming and there is nothing we can do about it. The question we should be asking ourselves is how we mange the refuge crisis. Frankly, I don't know the answer.
No.611906
>>611900
If you were playing an MMO and orcs were invading the homeland of humans, what would be the best way for the humans to respond?
No.611914
>>611906
> This is what the worldview of /pol/tards is based upon.
No.611915
>>611906
to understand why they are coming (1). then to understand what makes their own homes unlivable (2). then to understand what causes the whole situation to begin with (3).
cheat sheet:
1: war/poverty in the homeland
2: imperialism aka "intervention for democracyTM
3: capitalism
No.611919
If the West didn't want to deal with refugees, it shouldn't fund terrorism and overthrow governments in the Middle East.
It also shouldn't deliberately fuck over 3rd world economies all over the world, like in South America.
The refugee crisis was manufactured by Porky, and now Porky is using it in every way they can. Porky is simultaneously using it to increase racism, and also using it for cheaper labor. Porky is using it to pass laws for surveillance and get rid of free speech. When Porky has every angle covered like this, the only honest and acceptable response is to choose the path that minimizes human suffering. Taking the refugees in for now and doing our best to end interventions abroad is that path.
No.611920
>>611915
I'm sure they'll admire the charts and books you've developed on them once they're done beating you to death.
No.611923
My country objectively needs more immigration.
It's got an ageing population. We need more young immigrants.
Alternatively we could stop giving birth and just die out already, but that would be the rational choice.
No.611926
>>611919
You think the people wanted to invade Iraq and fund anti-Assad/Gaddafi rebels?
All of those decisions are made by the elites, and the elites don't have to deal with subhumans living in their neighborhoods.
No.611927
Europe has an obligation to help refugees from the Middle East. It's because of European colonialism and Western imperialism that these countries are in the state they're in. It's our moral duty to help them to atone for the crimes of our forebears, no matter that some scumbags may be among them.
No.611928
>>611920
indeed, unless imperialism stops or the current migrants are not integrated with authority and instilled leidkultur, things will not go well and we may see more clashes.
No.611936
>they seem more aware of current news and situations than us.
Only when Muslims are involved because they see themselves as the vanguard of Western Civilization™. In all other aspects they seem to forget that news media is even a thing, unless a feminazi start crying rape-wolf again.
No.611939
>>611926
>You think the people wanted to invade Iraq and fund anti-Assad/Gaddafi rebels?
After 9/11, almost everyone was crying for revenge. Political correctness was effectively reversed–your personal life was shattered if you didn't support it.
No.611945
>>611926
>You think the people wanted to invade Iraq and fund anti-Assad/Gaddafi rebels?
Who cares? They refuse to overthrow their government. They can fucking deal with some Arab neighbors.
No.612026
This whole situation makes me sad. No one will ask for accountability on the wars that destabilized the middle east, but rather they will ask for more security and more endless intervention
No.612031
>>611530
>hello, fellow leftists
No.612033
Can we stop with the threads on refugees and islam and all this other idpol crap.
No.612290
>>612026
i feel the same way but what did posting those cockholsters add?
No.612297
>>611906
Kek you guys really do think life works like DnD.
No.612319
>>612033
>refuses to discuss any relevant issues, keep revising old ass documents about theories that never actually truly worked.
im sorry but in case you didnt know, politics is more than some words on a piece of paper, if the left cant solve this problem its only natural that people will turn to the right. nationalist groups are growing faster than ever, think about that for a minute.
No.612323
>>612031
nowhere did i actually say that
No.612342
>>611530
I support immigration, but not crazy sjw-tier immigrations. Everything needs a limit. Except for the revolution
Refugee workers shouldn't be backward classcuck terrorists, but rather joined the struggle.
No.612345
>>612319
This entire problem is manufactured to begin with, or at least being intentionally exploited after accidentally spawning it into existence. It's not some societal Achilles' heel.
No.612408
>are they the issue?
No.
>should EU accept them?
Yes. Split them up properly.
>do you fear for your country's culture?
Lol no. Nothing's going to change about Danish culture. Unfortunately.
>what about the rape accusation
The rape accusations are probably what caused the rapes. Regular terror. And you /pol/acks eat it up.
>how about the claim that 75% of refugees are males who dont need to get any help anywhere?
Why don't males need to get help? Because they can just go hunt in the woods? They also need help bringing their family with them. The journey to Europe is long, so usually only males do it.
Also, go back to /pol/.
No.612447
>>611919
>If the West didn't want to deal with refugees, it shouldn't fund terrorism and overthrow governments in the Middle East.
Exactly THIS.
It's a fucking cash grab and has been from the start. How the hell do think ISIS gets funding? They've literally taken over oil fields and distribution networks and are selling them through illegal means to countries who want to avoid international trade tariffs.
The refugee crisis is a byproduct. It doesn't help that happy-go-lucky Europeans who've never experienced war in their homeland since WW2 are embracing both the good and the WORST of foreigners in the name of charity.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Brussels is now the ninth circle.
No.612478
>>611923
>we need workers.
>we should stop giving birth.
>we need immigration.
I'm gonna have to side with /pol/ on this one. I hope you're not the real namefag.
There's no reason for these people to travel half the globe to escape war, they're economic immigrants and not refugees. We should build and supply refugee camps on Arab countries near the area, not try a multicult experiment for no reason, it's destructive for everyone involved.
Do Anarkiddies seriously think religious fundamentalist who can't even speak their language have any revolutionary potential?
No.612481
Daily Render that if you are a progressive that goes out of their way to avoid addressing the Islam problem, the blood is on your hands
No.612545
>>612481
daily reminder that isis is the muslim incarnation of /pol/
No.612547
>>612481
>Pretending terrorist attacks are amount to anything
>Pretending thousands of people don't die daily of preventable shit
>Acting like every mass shooting isn't overdone by capitalist vulture MSM
People have the right idea, we should accept all refugees in conjunction with putting strong pressure on NATO allies like the Saudi's, Turkey, etc. to take in way more than they are taking now. We should use it as a tool for raising class consciousness, international proletarianism, and challenging the notion of borders and imperialist politics.
The labor pool in some places will widen, and wages will fall. If you are a self-proclaimed leftist and blame the refugees, you are on some crazy reactionary shit. The enemy is /pol/ racists and idpol. We use this to agitate for revolution.
No.612560
>>612547
in the eyes of /pol/ leftypol and idpol are the same
you have to disown the regressive left for people to take your shit seriously m8
No.612571
>>612560
liberals have nothing leftist in them.
No.612576
>>612571
and yet they're still your public face
this is the kind of person people associate with leftism now
No.612585
>>612478
This. I am baffled by the sheer idealism of some people on this board.
Would I like to abolish borders and shit? Of fucking course!
Is it rational to do so right now? NO! There is a gang of fucking murderous terrorists, there is masses of wealth disparity, there is no socialism. Opening the borders will only lead to such a massive influx of migrants to the first world that either the first world disintegrates or literally every first world country and every person living there, regardless of ideology, will go full nationalism.
>>612576
We don't need to try and force a meme because the face of neo-nazism is already fucking ugly.
No.612587
>>612576
BTW what exactly is wrong with his face, it looks absolutely normal to me.
No.612589
>>612587
someone freeze framed while he was talking omg so uglee right xddd
/pol/acks are fucking children
No.612591
>>612576
do you really want us to go through the faces of /pol/?
No.612592
>>612587
nothing to do with his literal face he's just a retard, you would need to watch the video
No.612596
>>612592
Good thing I don't endulge myself in SJW memes then. I picked up something about a white guy screaming about how white men should not have the right to have an opinion or something, but it looks exactly like all the other memes.
No.612615
>>612576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYGNYaILE8I
members of Golden Dawn, a classic favorite of /pol/
I'll even make a translation from greek:
>there are very many the events, I won't talk about cases of unemployment, to talk about cases foreigners, which not even the greek police can take the events, that we can as young and simple Greek citizens clean what we see and just that.
No, I'm not making mistakes by mistake, this is what he literally said.
You really know how to pick 'em, /pol/
No.612625
>>612615
Why do i think that it sounds like a swiss person speaking german.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2suIQ0qEP4
No.612629
>>611906
The fucking Orc references again.
Please, stop.
No.612675
>>611927
>European colonialism and Western imperialism that these countries are in the state they're in
with your logic, europeans and westerners in general have the right to take pride in the achievements of their ancestors, and also the right to consider themselves culturally superior to other groups. 2 sides of the same coin, my comrade, it is not the european people who should be doing anything, its the capitalistic system that shouldnt have fucked up the middle east for their own profit. this "crisis" is only established by the capitalist media to propagandize that there are only 2 solutions: go full on SJW welcum rephujeez mode, or full nazi xenophobic mode. people dont realize there are other solutions
No.612899
>>611906
Submit. No one bests an Orc. Malacath favors our strength and resolve. Don't worry about half-bloods though. If a woman can't at least be a challenge in an arm-wrestling match or mine 12 hours straight, she's not worth breeding with. Keep 'em. Finally, I'm not the only one here that thinks RPG's are REALLY REAL.
No.613520
>>611939
nonsense. there were huge protests and demonstrations against the war.
No.613587
>>611906
Summon our allies the wood elves and the Dwarves of the Misty Mountain
No.613588
>>612481
except the perpetrators were all belgian residents, not refugees
niggerfaggot
No.613592
>>612675
>I don't know how logic works
No.613815
>>613588
They were still muslin retard
No.613831
>>612481
The islam problem is caused by the warmongering American elite in the first place. That is the source of the problem, the islam problem is the result.
No.613833
>>613815
>they were still muslin retard
and the USSR was a communist state. seriously though, theyre an extremist group who slapped the name "muslim" on them to create terror. as a result, europeans fear middle easterns and vice versa, and fear is the greatest weapon to lead. porkies can manipulate fear however they want, use cheap immigrant labor while spreading SJW propaganda, while at the same time stir up nationalism among europeans in hope to impose mass surveillance. when borders are finally opened and terrorist attacks are imminent, every european anywhere will turn to the porkies and submit themselves to more classcuckoldry.
No.613855
>>612481
/pol/ is to Muslims what Tumblr is to whites
>OH MY GOD WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU AREN'T AN ALLY AGAIMST THE HORDES HOW DARE YOU I HATE YOU GODDAMN MONSTERS
No.614214
Whatever you think ought to be the immigration policies, the migrant crisis in Europe will cause a far-right backlash.
No.615210
No.615232
They're part of the international working class, so they should have the full support of every communist.
No.615233
>>612478
>Do Anarkiddies seriously think religious fundamentalist who can't even speak their language have any revolutionary potential?
it's funny how a tankie thinks he's allowed to talk about things concerning the working class in the first place lol
No.615235
>>612478
>translation: do leftists seriously believe in the worldwide proletariat?
As cringe worthy as liberals and id-pol are, they do a pretty good job of dispelling myths for the lower, uneducated classes.
No.615238
>>615235
It baffles me how social chauvinists like tankies and other state-fetishists think they are communists.
No.615659
>>611530
Refugees are human beings.. so fucking what? Fascists are human beings,, porky is a human being,, child murderers are human beings…
No.615672
>>615659
Are you the same black cat poster that makes the leftypol reads threads?
No.615766
>>615659
And when I post pictures like yours I can claim the Americans invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, etc. they were all in self-defence.
The Rashidun conquests were defensive wars. The Byzantine clients were the Ghassanids; the Persian clients were the Lakhmids. They both attacked the Rashidun Caliphate, and when they were conquered the two empires declared war on the Muslims.
It's truly amazing stuff considering the material and manpower that the Muslims had at their disposal.
No.615779
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>>615232
>national socialists are socialists, so they should have full support of every socialists
see your logic? they should be educated on class division and realize their religion should not interfere with their duty to fight capitalism first. most of them are either blind, cheap and exploitable workers for the porkies, or religious fanatics who might or might not be terrorists. the former feels like they are bounded to fight for the porkies because "muh saviors", while the latter support a system of oppression against any non-muslims.
No.615786
>>611906
And there you have it folks, /pol/ is a bunch of larping, dillusional, fat neckbeards.
Not that it is any kind of surprise.
No.616011
>>615235
>wanting to desalienate the workers totally blind by religion instead of just putting them with people that hate and despise them is wrong
pls go
mass immigrantion is never the answer
>not believing in the world wide proletariat
so we should just throw them all in europe and hope it goes well right?
No.616035
>>615779
>national socialists are socialists, so they should have full support of every socialists
you just went full retard.
Shut the fuck up, workers of all countries unite. You got nothing to lose but your chains
No.616057
>>615779
>>616035
you could LITERALLY say the same thing about white workers. They support their bourgeoisie's imperialist projects, they are buying their propaganda, even fucking voting for their parties, they are religious and they are blindly accepting the racist narrative against muslim & black/brown workers. Does this mean we shouldn't support the working class?
I hate to break it to you anon, but most workers are reactionary. The difference is that they are following a bourg narrative; it's not in their own class interest to support such narratives. Ultimately, their interest is the same as the interest of muslim workers, because, what a fucking surprise, they are both part of the proletariat.
So just shut the fuck up with your wise populist pseudo-workerism, the only people you're appealing to are the petty-bourg and blinded workers. If you're serious about being a communist you should embrace the whole working class, because our support for them is grounded in a materialist class analysis, which doesn't leave space for your own racist and chauvinist preferences.
No.616093
>>612585
Isn't the whole open borders thing a porky invention? Sanders said it was a right wing invention.
No.616111
>>616093
so was abolitionism, where's the problem?
No.616115