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Local to global Comrade 10/01/14 (Wed) 18:19:05 b61a52 No.20

It seems that anarchist spaces, communes, bookstores, etc. all suffer from the same problem. Once they reach capacity, or reach a comfortable size, they do not grow any more. Often, groups will resist growth when the group becomes tight as a clique.

We end up with communes and anarchists spaces spread too thin for meaningful action or change to happen.

How can anarchist spaces horizontally associate and cooperate?

Internet is an option, yes, but internet also seems very disconnected. I believe anarchist groups require person-to-person interaction, otherwise discussions spiral down into arguments and name calling. Once two anarchists meet, they forget about their minute ideological differences.

How can we connect anarchists to share, cooperate without resorting to the internet?

Comrade 10/01/14 (Wed) 22:25:17 e78556 No.24

We need to get the anarchism back to the working class. That means:

- less antifa &feminism(they're implicit, we don't need to make them separate trends)
- less lifestylism( It's exactly the problem you identified OP. It's not useful, and these people are terrible, they're what the society thinks about anarchism)
- less black bloc( I know you guys will hate me for this, but it reinforces the idea that we just want to create disorder and fight with cops. I'm no pacifist, but it's not efficient direct action)
- most importantly: more class struggle: back to forming unions and agitating.

We should stop being fucking elitist, and get back to our roots

Comrade 10/01/14 (Wed) 22:46:25 b61a52 No.26

>>24
I agree with everything except the black bloc

You make a good point, but I think it is still necessary to get out on the streets and voice disapproval. Black bloc doesn't imply violence, rioting and fighting cops. Black bloc makes it hard to identify protesters, gives an illusion of greater numbers and a black mass of people moving towards you, screaming and shouting is intimidating.

People (other than activists) need to be shown that it is OK to disobey the police, to get out on the streets, organize, etc.

Comrade 10/02/14 (Thu) 09:05:25 e78556 No.27

>>26
> Black bloc doesn't imply violence, rioting and fighting cops

I know dude. But it easily results into violence because of pigs' provos. We should be very careful.

Comrade 10/02/14 (Thu) 17:43:52 b61a52 No.30

>>27
The answer to police violence can't be to roll over and take it.

It just means more people need to be out there, risking comfort, so when police provoke there are consequences. Look at Ukraine, sure they lacked a strong left and ended up with a right government and civil war, but the changes started with protests.

Comrade 10/03/14 (Fri) 15:56:31 ce6c92 No.34

As someone that a libertarian socialist and I have some anarchist tendencies I've seen some shit that just puts me off anarchist movements. Granted I've only really seen this stuff online, so my opinion aint worth shit, but lets go.

1. anti science - I've seen some anarchists oppose issues such as GM grops without much of a scientific understanding. There's plenty of arguments against it from an economic POV(such as locking people into monopolies and the abuse of copyright law) but the idea that this shit is going to destroy the world shouldn't be as prevalent as it is. Same goes for nuclear power.

2. I'm not sure how common this is, but if someone has some problems with feminist theory(a lot of which disagrees with each other) they can be labeled as an anti feminist. To me that sounds like if someone doesn't like marxist theory, they're against the working class.

3. Lifestyle anarchism is just bad PR . I mean it might be great on an individual level, but if there was a way to separate the association between lifestyle and anarchist theory/practice

4. How popular is anarchism in workers movements and such? I know it used to be quite popular, more so than marxism in some areas, but is it essentially dead at the moment?

5. laugh at derick jenson more

Comrade 10/04/14 (Sat) 01:18:44 b61a52 No.38

>>34
>1
GM crops won't destroy the world, but there should be more regulation. And why are governments against labelling GMO food as such? This is a new technology yet it has been released everywhere. GM seeds are spread to non-GM crops, making them GM and opening farmers to lawsuits. French farmers committing suicide because Monsanto sues them into bankruptcy.

I'm not against GM crops where they're necessary: tough environments. We don't need GM crops where regular crops grow just fine.

Regarding nuclear power, I think that's the future of clean energy. Aside from the spent fuel (which can be stored safely) it is clean and safe.

>3
Yes, but I also think those who follow anarchist theory should try to apply them in their lives. For example, don't open a small business and employ people.

>4
I think in regions that have been historically leftist anarcho-syndicalism still has a foothold among workers. It's important to understand that not everyone is 'educated' and while they may agree with anarchist ideas, even support them, they might not know they're anarchist ideas.

>5
Can't comment on that as I've never ready any of his stuff.