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 No.11492

How can people actually not care about their liberty? Do they just not understand what it means? Are they just dumb animals who only realize what they lost when they get trapped in that cage and try to bite and claw their way out when it's too late instead of preventing the deterioration of their liberty as it was happening?

 No.11502

people prioritize comfort over liberty

nice yamyam


 No.11504

>>11502

Strange, hard to be comfortable when you're chained. Seems like a false dichotomy.


 No.11506

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>>11504

the chains arent locked. people are to dumb to realize this tbh

with wal-mart™ and mcdonalds™ on every corner, what did you expect?


 No.11520

Well everyone unironically using this board are just dumb animals

I'm just here to drive down board quality


 No.11523


 No.11524

I care about liberty but if you think capitalism will give you any of it you are fucking dumb


 No.11526

People don't give a shit about Liberty until it's nonexistent.


 No.11536

>>11526

Sad but so fucking true. (American here) 9-11 was a wake up call for me, I never realized we had so many freedoms in this country till they started disappearing. The right to privacy by far the biggest constitutional right violated but so was the right to travel by airplane without being harassed (groped) by transportation security. But even that was just the start…

Shit, now it's gotten to the point where 'our' government want to force people to buy (expensive) health insurance, force people to take those (mercury-laced) vaccines, they are trying to censor our internet now with new legislation being rushed through Congress.

It's all fucking despicable, and if we keep tolerating the bullshit I'm sure it will become much worse in the near future.


 No.11686

>>11492

>How can people actually not care about their liberty?

Propaganda and psychological conditioning. How did they not care about their liberty in the book 1984?

This isn't new stuff. We've been on this road for 70 years now.


 No.11697

>>11520

Typical commie "if i can't have nice things, neither should anyone else" mentality.


 No.11716

>>11697

Typical capitalist "if I can have nice things, nobody else should have them".


 No.11733

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>>11492

The trust in government is too high. Hayek noted in The Road to Serfdom, as atrocities are committed across the globe, we convince ourselves more that they could never happen here.

It's also a cultural thing, you're expected to be non-political, apathetic, or out-n-proud social liberal, otherwise you'll need to explain why you don't hate X/Y/Z groups. It's become tedious just to speak out against apathy or feel-good politics, the politics of instant gratification as opposed to long-term growth and improvement, or of fundamental rights.

For awhile, neo-cons ran with "muh national security" to infringe on liberties like >>11536 said, but such fads only last so long as the idea of a threat do. "Feel-goodism" never goes away. Both are always harder to roll back than to implement as well.

>>11520

>>11523

>wasting time acting like an idiot just to stick it to people who disagree with you on the internet

Whatever floats your goat.




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