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 No.11738

You seem like nice people. People with whom I can actually talk.

 No.11744


 No.11747

>>11744

>The lonely individualism of Ayn Rand is only alienation accepted and alienation perfected.

I read the whole thing. Explain this.


 No.11788

Haven't read any Rand yet

no bully


 No.11789

>>11788

Why not?


 No.11791

>>11789

Haven't gotten around to it yet

too busy not reading my least favorite "philospher" garl marx xdd


 No.11802


 No.11806

>>11789

Atlas shrugged is something like 60 hours in audio form (or maybe it was her other popular one…). I ain't got time for that.

Objectivists come in two groups:

1) Anti-social retards who don't get the inner meanings (majority)

2) Smart people who realize the underlying meanings but don't voice their opinions enough


 No.11830

>>11806

Took me a fucking month to read that damn book. Wasn't the only book I was reading at the time, but still.


 No.11860

I've read The Virtue of Selfishness and I'm halfway Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal. I still haven't enough guts to get serious with Atlas, I have a fuckton of books that I've already started. I'm fucking in half of Murray's Manifesto.

Virtue of Selfishness changed my worldview.


 No.11880

>>11860

Read "Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology" first.

You can then breeze through the other books. Alough, if you wish to enjoy the novels, read them first.


 No.11881

>>11880

*Although

And, read the novels in one go with minimal distraction.


 No.17654

Hoppean ancap here. Are there any objectivist insights I may find useful?


 No.17665

>>17654

Rands criticism of collectivism and communism in particular is very powerful, I think. Especially rhetorically. She did a very good job deconstructing the leftist-mindset, too.


 No.17666

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sage


 No.18025

>>11788

same here. pretty new to libertarianism in general former blue-pilled liberal progressive but eventually got pissed about SJW censorship and dared to open my mind to other ideologies

just picked up The Fountainhead. should i start here or borrow my father's copy of Atlas Shrugged? Also, should i try to read some Locke or is that as dry and hard to get through as I'd imagine?


 No.18036

>>18025

If you want to understand Rothbardianism, this is the "appropriate" order:

For a New Liberty (why state is fucking awful)

The Ethics of Liberty (how a stateless society

could work)

Both by Rothbard, available for free on mises.org

From there, you might want to read the "Myth of National Defense", edited by Hoppe, which clearly explains why private security is BETTER than state security. You might think "okay, well, we might have to settle with slightly worse practical outcomes to achieve moral perfection in society" but we would actually have better national defense in a free society! Especially local defense from criminals. Not to mention the fact that a free society will require high IQ people who are

From there, read whatever. If you want really good (Austrian) economics, you can read Man Economy and State: With Power and Markets, a ~1600 page purely economic treatise available for free, on Mises.org, by Rothbard

Feeling bored, you can read Walter Block's 492 page tome on libertarian roads, though his stuff on Libertarian environmentalism will be far more important if you want to make a case for an-capism to some faggy environmentalist

>Also, should i try to read some Locke or is that as dry and hard to get through as I'd imagine?

No idea, tbh, but the founding fathers thought he was pretty dank.


 No.18051

>>18025

For a good understanding of Rand's mindset, read "The Virtue of Selfishness". It also doubles as a good critique of the leftist mindset. Same goes for "The Anticapitalist Mentality", by von Mises, and the Unabomber-Manifesto. After reading these three, you should be able to understand leftism as a whole a lot better. Atlas Shrugged is extremely long, so long that I would never fully recommend it, even though it certainly has its merits.

Other than that, the ancap above me knows his shit.




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