/liberty/ - Liberty

>US will spend 43 million dollars on a gas station in the middle of nowhere in the desert in afghanistan

>$7000 coffee makers

>$600 toilet seats

>$37 for A screw

>$435 for a hammer

>$285 screwdriver

>$387 flat washer

>$469 wrench

>$214 flashlight,

>$437 tape measure

>$2,228 monkey wrench,

>$748 pair of duckbill pliers

>$74,165 aluminum ladder

>$659 ashtray

>$1,118.26 for a spare plastic cap for a navigator’s stool on a B-52 bomber (worth about two cents)

>Defense Accounting Finance Service writes $22 billion in checks every month

>Mark Krenik (pentagon officer) created a phony company and then billed himself $504,000. He had to repay the money, but was not sentenced to prison. Probation only, and a $495 fine. He told the federal judge that he did it because everyone else in his section was doing to the same, but he was not required to name names.

>Sgt. Robbie Miller convicted and sent to prison for stealing $1 million. would not have been caught but was involved in affairs with female co-workers. Agents say they got Miller when he was hauling evidence out of the office to burn it.

>Contractors were billing $300 a night hotel rooms, private jet flights, meals at five star restaurants and bar bills to the government.

>Air Force non-commissioned officers like Miller, who handle giant

accounts at Dayton, call any vendor account that is less than $100,000

“budget dust” and say it’s not worth the time or effort trying to

recover.

>hundreds of billions into stupid wasteful trash every year

>monsanto claims it needs to genetically modify our crops and use pesticides because it helps make the world a better place

>has the biggest and most expensive military and military budget in the entire world that makes the nasa budget look like pocket change in comparison

>claims space travel is too expensive

>claims they can't afford a living wage

>claims they can't give war veterans all the help they need as t.v. commercials go on and on with sad country music with vets missing arms and legs "help the veterans!"

>claims they can't cure Cancer/HIV/Ebola/ as the pink ribbon shows up on KFC chicken buckets everywhere that contain cancer causing ingredients

>claims they can't afford universal health care

>claims they can't house every homeless person

>claims they can't grow all crops organically

>claims they can't feed the poor unless the people themselves donate food, time, and money.

>claims people absolutely must pay taxes because otherwise they would go to jail for making the country crumble apart in failure.

http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=96;t=000012;p=0

http://www.wnd.com/2000/10/4314/

http://articles.latimes.com/1986-07-30/news/vw-18804_1_nut

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking

DailyFail: https://archive.is/RnMCc

Fox: https://archive.is/ZhRPL

BostonHerald: https://archive.is/ojJ6p

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to be sure everyone understands:

>I am Jewish

>I am Against Zionism

>I am Against Capitalism.

>I am PRO Libertarian.

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>capitalism is not a religion. Your claim is that it is the worship of money, but what is money?

basically It is a solid piece of matter, I would compare it to idol worship statues. money even says "god" on it and people are obsessed with it. I would say that indirectly people do technically worship money because they are forced under its control their entire lives and the more they have, the more power they have.

>Money is economic and (indirectly) social power. Getting rid of capitalism won't take away people's desire for power. Keep in mind, desire for power is very much a natural thing.

you are absolutely right.

>I feel with a free market, this desire could be fostered into creating wealth and prosperity, and it would be impossible for jackasses to use the gubmint as a coercive force to kill competition.

The problem is that all the more wealthy and powerful groups and individuals are all friends (pic related as an example)

>I've heard arguments from socialist and syndicalist anarchists that where libertarians and anarchocapitalism fails is that even though the state is gone, there will be "pecking orders" of sorts. The argument being that getting rid of the state doesn't matter if you the economic system ensures that some people will have more power than others via shekels. Arguments about how freedom doesn't necessarily mean equality aside,

your reply is really one of the first real serious non-shill replies. Thank you for your actual thoughts you have put into this.

>I find that such a point is moot by the fact that hierarchies are more or less inevitable. But at least with libertarianism, climbing up the pyramid will be a lot easier. At the very least it will make all sections a bit more comfortable. Albeit arguing over the concepts of freedom and equality and if they are indeed tied is more of a philosophical discussion than a political one.

Really, I'm just trying to lift the veil of corruption so that everyone has a better clue what's going on.

>Out of curiosity, what is your idea of "GOOD" regulation and what makes it good? And how would you prevent corporations from buying out a government that can make said regulations in order to make "bad regulations?

That's a good question. While I could think of many different examples of what a utopia is, the problem is that people are very far from perfect and would be the quick end of that utopia. I'm trying my best, and that is all I will truly admit to.