/liberty/ - Liberty

>>13203

Oh look, another shitposter who can only attack concepts like a child instead of suggest viable alternatives.

At least you're keeping the board active, even if it's shitposting.

>>13207

First Worldist propaganda! The Democratic People's Republic of Korea did not engage in war crimes! How dare you insult the Supreme Leader! You First Worldists are not revolutionary! The Third Worldists are the true revolutionaries!

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>>13207

Capital flight doesn't matter in countries that print their own money. Bourgeois parasites want to leave the country? Fine go ahead. The bourgeois need labour more than labour needs them. The labour only needs the means of production. Which the state can provide and the state can provide it at-cost to the consumer without a profit

sage

>>13212

>He thinks the people fleeing are only taking money

Capital Flight typically doesn't happen overnight which gives them time to pull out their assets, but even if it did, do you really think freezing their bank accounts will do shit? I don't know a single rich person who stores their wealth strictly in cash/banks. Most store their earnings either partially in foreign banks via foreign currency, or partially in resources. You go right ahead and kick him out and watch hin and his resources flee overseas to better prospects.

You can keep the means of production. They don't mean jack shit if you don't have someone to operate the business/financial side of it. Trade skillers (outside of the select few unioncucks still around) will flee the country; no one will have an incentive to invest in the economy since the government takes away means of production. In a decade you'll be using diesel cars while everyone else is using hemp cars or even hover cars to get around.

And how are you going to determine prices? Oh that's right, you'll either look to capitalistic countries like true USSR parasites, or you'll try and do away with the price systems leading to a massive increase in black market works while you can't even find someone to work the farms without pointing a gun at their head because of lack of incentive. And don't rely on automation- that takes maitenance which you won't have when the trade skill workers would rather sit at home watching the entire country collapse from food shortages, and all of your engineers will move to the rich capitalist countries nearby the moment they get their degrees.

>>13214

Honestly you fucking lefties need to realize already that you want to live like NEETs while expecting everyone else to pick up the slack. Sure you'll I itially uave enough people to pick up the slack, but collective mentality and lack of incentives will cause a shortage in farms/farmers. Then you'll inevitably go after the few farmers left making a profit, and after redistributing their crops, literally no one will do more than self-sustaining farming and no one will have bread.

So at that point you'll need to decide is it better for everyone to live like farming peasants to survive, to force people to work at which point you can't be fucking NEETs, or to allow a profit motive? At which point you might as well give up and go capitalist if you don't want a booming black market.

>>13203

While I think there is a discussion to be had in /liberty/ and similar places about the notion that "a libertarianism that would allow, for example, that the Queen of England is merely a private property holder exercising her rights is simply no libertarianism at all", I don't think shallow memeposts are the way to achieve that. Even if you accept that the arbitrary forcible redistribution of wealth is ethical (a huge if!), how much inefficiency and net social loss are you willing to tolerate?

>>13215

>Honestly you fucking lefties need to realize already that you want to live like NEETs while expecting everyone else to pick up the slack.

Isn't that also what being a rich capitalist is about?

>>13214

Learning how to operate the business/financial side of a business is really not hard. It's really a matter of having the capital and means of production.

Some unionized tradesmen are actually public sector workers. Or doing contracts for the public sector.

When Saskatchewan (Canadian province) introduced socialized medicine in the 60s, the doctors threatened to "strike". But then the doctors eventually gave in to the demands of the government. And now you see socialized medicine in many parts of the world.

It's easy how to determine price. If doctors, nurses, trade workers, etc. want to leave the country, then the price you pay for their labour is too low.

>>13219

Exactly. The libertarians/ancaps are cool with porky profiting off the backs of the workers…. This is why I can't take their demonization of people on welfare seriously. Porky is making millions and billions in surplus value. Not thousands like a welfare recipient.

>>13211

I don't think that comic is about being fat.

>>13222

Where did he imply that you fucking retard?

>>13203

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>>13207

This war of attrition you cunts are trying to fight is seriously pissing me off. You're posting the same pictures every single time, with no explanation or even a question to discuss given. It takes you a minute to create a shitty thread like this and plaster it with your bullshit. To refute one of these pictures would take five minutes, I guess, if you want to make a good case. If we refute it, you go on and make a new thread with the exact same pictures again. If we don't refute it, you call it a day.

>>13224

>baww i can't get a real job because i'm being fat shamed

>comic about people not getting real jobs

No idea, man.

>>13219

>>13220

>Isn't that also what being a rich capitalist is about?

You mean the part where the rich capitalist started a business by risking his own assets?

How about the part where he paid his workers before turning a profit himself?

Maybe you're talking about the part where he managed that business well enough to succeed in a competitive marketplace?

Oh, and of course his further reinvestment into other companies, allowing them to expand their productivity?

Yeah, what a fucking leech.

There are ways to work without getting covered in grease, you filthy peasant.