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 No.15764

Why do you not realise the innate problems within capitalism? How can you stick your hands in your ears as the system's contradictions lead to crisis upon crisis? How can you be satisfied with what if functionally a two hundred year old economic form, that's beginning to be overtaken by the likes of China's state-centric model?

Even if you want to quibble about capitalism's status as the end-point of human development, there seems to be no link between individual 'freedom' and capitalism. The most impressive capitalistic economic growth is coming from regimes that are autocratic and hierarchical in nature (the Asian tigers being perhaps the best examples).

 No.15767

>>15764

I realise the correctness of what you say. I shall no longer be a retarded nigger Anarcho-Capitalist. Praise Lenin.


 No.15771

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>liberals


 No.15772

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>>15764

>system's contradictions lead to crisis upon crisis

Sure, of course governments supporting big business by setting favourable regulations, giving generous credit and hauling their asses out of every crisis have no relationship with this, and the solution is more government.


 No.15774

>>15764

>as the system's contradictions lead to crisis upon crisis?

The Federal Reserve, central banking, moral hazards created by regulation, socialized costs and privatized benefits, these things that lead to crises and disaster are not "innate contradictions" in capitalism.

fuggen gill yourself :DDD


 No.15785

>>15774

>>15772

Capitalism necessitates a state Liberals. Arguing that capitalism has been corrupted by the state is delusional, given (as one of you pointed out) individual companies spent much of their time looking at the state as a tool of competition.


 No.15786

Seriously though, what if states are just like companies, but bigger and older?

Checkmate liberals.


 No.15787

>>15786

>What if

But they aren't


 No.15788

>>15785

>Capitalism necessitates a state

what


 No.15794

>>15788

You can't have capitalism without a state.


 No.15797


 No.15806

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>>15785

>People trading things voluntarily for-profit necessitates a state

Tell that to the old Somalis (before communism), early Iceland, 9,000 year Ireland, Zomia, Cospaia, etc.


 No.15807

>>15786

It's squares and rectangles, man.

A corporation (square) can become a state (rectangle), but a state (rectangle) can not be a corporation (square).

A corporation can't exist in AnCapistan anyways because a corporation is an entity defined by and receiving special privileges and benefits from the government.

That's why we use the term business.


 No.15808

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>>15807

>>15786

Fuck, sorry. Been reading the word "corporation" so much that I just assumed you used it instead of company.

My first point still stands.


 No.15809

>>15806

>capitalism predates the middle ages

cool meme, too bad you are fucking wrong


 No.15811

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>>15809

And you're arguing semantics, but I'll respond anyways.

Yes, Classical Liberalist Capitalism came after the middle ages based around the ideas of John Locke.

Voluntaryism, commonly called "Anarcho Capitalism" because capitalism is the current word used to define such voluntary private transactions that are made for a profit (E.G. for capital). For profit (for capital) trade has existed for a very long time. The term Capitalism is completely correct in this context.


 No.15813

>>15811

I'm not arguing semantics. We all know what the fuck the commie was talking about, and it's not just people exchanging things for fun. You purposefully misunderstood him, and I'm the one arguing semantics? Go and fuck yourself you lying bastard.


 No.15814

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>>15813

>We all know what the fuck the commie was talking about, and it's not just people exchanging things for fun. You purposefully misunderstood him, and I'm the one arguing semantics?

You're right, and he knows what the fuck us Voluntarists are talking about, so he "purposefully misunderstands" our arguments in the first place, faggot. I'm simply responding in kind and you're too much of a slobbering idiot to even see that.

Also it's exchanging things for profit not for fun. Get ti right already.


 No.15818

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>>15814

It's still arguing semantics. Are you doing it because otherwise you would have to admit that anarcho-capitalism is either primitivist, or not anarchist at all?


 No.15847

quality thread


 No.16722

>>15818

It is not primitivist per se but it can have primitivist elements, but it is infidelity anarchistic.


 No.16733

>>15818

I want to pump my sperm into Cirno's qt belly.


 No.16747

>>16733

We all do.


 No.16758

>>15818

Nice red herring, m8.


 No.16767

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>>15764

I don't see why China wouldn't grow even faster with a smaller government.

Seems like they waste a lot of the GDP

>>15785

>>15794

This is what they actually believe for no reason


 No.16787

>>16767

is that chart on a log plot? why the fuck would they do that




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