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 No.16766

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/12/28/transgender-fad-rapidly-spreading-primary-schools-clusters-emerging-children-copy-friends/

Even underage individuals have already fallen to the transsexual fad.

While I think adults should be able to mutilate their bodies and LARP as the opposite gender if they want to (though they shouldn't be able to use state coercion to force others to play along and use their pronouns, nor should the state spend any resources stimulating this), children "transitioning" is a more complicated issue.

Should they be allowed to do it, no restrictions? It seems rational and libertarian to just let them do it and face the consequences. But the decision isn't entirely the child's, given parental influence, to the point that some/all cases are parents /peer pressure forcing something of uncertain and potentially dangerous results for ideological reasons. Is there a case for banning it?

If age restrictions are to be in place, what should be the minimum age and why?

 No.16769

Do you believe a child can mutilate their body with tattoos, do drugs, have sex, fight a war, put toxins into their body, etc?

Then they can mutilate their genitals and we new to lower the age of legal adulthood.

If you don't believe they should be able to do the above, then they can not mutilate their body.

The only "issue" here is that pre-pubescent children transition "better" (while also regretting it the most) than adults. That being said, people with gender dysphoria are mentally ill, and need professional psychological help. This is why I advise parents to monitor their children's internet access until they consider their children to be adults- tumblr and similar degenerate sites will corrupt a young impressionable mind.

By monitor I obviously mean check their history and talk to them about what's online- not stand over their shoulder kind of shit. Publicly seeable computers only as well. A laptop as a child is what temporarily turned me into an atheist and a porn degenerate autist.


 No.16771

What happened to that anime girl? ;__;


 No.16772

>>16769

>muh degeneracy

Exotic to see it in /liberty/.


 No.16773

>>16772

Orthobro is a primitivist nazi.


 No.16774

>>16773

I miss the days when where you called someone something like that they'd interpet it as an insult.


 No.16775

>>16769

Nothing wrong with going through an atheist phase as a teenager. That's what introduced me to logical argumentation and asking the big questions. I later outgrew it, along with all the leftist bullshit I was fed.


 No.16776

>>16775

How do you "outgrow" being an atheist? Outgrow it into what?


 No.16777

>>16773

Nah, you're just a faggot


 No.16779

>>16776

Technically, I'm still an atheist. Just not one of the fedora-wearing, intolerant dickheads idiots who run around debating creationists. I've realized that we're all prone to having a few irrational beliefs, and debating the validity of those is a mediocre intellectual exercise at best and seldomly productive. A widow believes her husband is talking to her through the numbers in a newspaper column, so what? This usually hurts no one, and more than once, the skeptics have been proven wrong.


 No.16780

>>16779

I don't know. I think a lot of the time people use religion as an excuse to be real shitfucks and get involved in shit that's got nothing to do with them.


 No.16781

>>16780

As soon as you quote the bible to me to prove that faggots really should be burned at the stake, you're marked for death, for all I care. Irrationality is no excuse for being a total cunt, it's just not a crime in itself.


 No.16788

>>16781

>not thinking has no effect

o am i laffin


 No.16796

>omg atheists just ugly people with questionable fashion choices

Christians and their arguments….


 No.16797

>>16788

Sleeping too little has an effect, too. Do you go around telling people they should get their eight hours of sleep? I think not, unless you're an even bigger ass than I think.

>>16796

Who are you talking about?


 No.16802

>>16797

yes, but sleeping could have an effect on your rationality, but voluntarily subverting it and not making an effort because it "doesn't matter" is a recipe for disaster.


 No.16808

>>16802

>but voluntarily subverting it and not making an effort because it "doesn't matter" is a recipe for disaster.

Except that it isn't. Do you really think the world would be a better fucking place if we told teenage couples that nope, there are no higher powers that brought them together? Come on.


 No.16811

>>16808

I don't expect it would make any difference at all.


 No.16812

>>16808

>muh deception to control shit

literally current gubmint

Again: There is no "god". Period.


 No.16817

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>>16769

Unlike tattoos or other body mods, the transgender thing has limited window of time.

The only way a male to female trannie has a chance of passing is to do it early.

Puberty must be suppressed or we'll just get a hulking she-male with a deep voice, square jaw, and broad shoulders.


 No.16818

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 No.16820

>>16775

after learning logic and reason what caused you to abandon it and go back to sky wizardly.

Was it a head injury that reduced your intellectual abilities?

Or did you find life just too bleak without an imagery friend who will make everything better after you die?


 No.16826

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>>16818

Apparently you do.

Also, "god" isn't real.

Try thinking.

>>16817

>do it early

yep.

Pic related is Andrej Pejić (now Andreja), a model.

6'2" tall guy who started taking estrogen and female hromones at 14. Now has his dick mutilated.

*Easily the most gorgeous person I've ever seen, N-No homo*

He's crazy, no doubt about it.


 No.16832

>>16826

His jaw gives him away.

>>16820

I can't speak for him, but I know for me, it was waking up still drunk from a crazy night of hedonistic partying with my mostly atheist and former christian friends w/lots of drugs and (likely also still in my system at the time), driving down past an Orthodox church/deciding to head in, and after listening to it, something sort of just clicked.


 No.16833

>>16820

>after learning logic and reason what caused you to abandon it and go back to sky wizardly.

I didn't abandon it. I simply embraced the facts that a) there's only so much time but almost endless bullshit, and we shouldn't endlessly debate bullshit that doesn't matter, and b) the notions underlying the modern atheist view are partially completely fucking retarded. Too much faith in the peer review process and the scientific majority, a dishonest rejection of intellectual intuition, outright rejection of anecdotal evidence and personal experience, and the outright rejection of claims that don't fit in the scientific framework.

>>16826

>Apparently you do.

Telling a retard to shut the fuck up is not necessarily about caring if his pants are full of shit. Sometimes, it's just 3 AM and you want to sleep peacefully already.

>Also, "god" isn't real.

I never denied that.

>Try thinking.

You mean look up arguments against creationism on RationalWiki?


 No.16834

>>16833

This anon does a better job of explaining it from the logic side.


 No.16845

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 No.16846

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 No.16860

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>>16833

>the notions underlying the modern atheist view are partially completely fucking retarded. Too much faith in the peer review process and the scientific majority, a dishonest rejection of intellectual intuition, outright rejection of anecdotal evidence and personal experience, and the outright rejection of claims that don't fit in the scientific framework.

So reaction to the press wildly extrapolating on minor research findings and some shitty methodology in the psychology field you retreated back in the dark ages?

Ghosts, Goblins and Gods is your solution to sloppy thought???


 No.16862

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>>16846

Leave the hat out of this, Nazi.


 No.16908

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>>16832

meh. You never were an atheist then.

>>16833

>thinking is Rationalwiki

4U

>I didn't abandon it.

lol

>I simply embraced the facts that a) there's only so much time but almost endless bullshit, and we shouldn't endlessly debate bullshit that doesn't matter,

>that doesn't matter

lol

>bullshit

lol

> and b) the notions underlying the modern atheist view are partially completely fucking retarded. Too much faith in the peer review process and the scientific majority, a dishonest rejection of intellectual intuition, outright rejection of anecdotal evidence and personal experience, and the outright rejection of claims that don't fit in the scientific framework

>muh "I can only accept what other people think and write down

You irrationalists are a special breed of Evaders.

>>16834

>logic

>as if he used any

kek

>>16846

>muh edgy nazi /pol/posting

>muh fedora maymay

>muh checked account

>muh shitpostan

kill yourself idiot


 No.16915

>>16860

>4U

You can't even banepost correctly.

>lol

>lol

>lol

>You irrationalists are a special breed of Evaders.

>kill yourself idiot


 No.16920

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>>16915

I swear you Christ-fags just throw around words without learning what they mean.

what did I say that was "irrational" and what did I evade?

Why don't you throw the phrase "Moral Relativism" as well.


 No.16925

>>16920

You, sir, are a special kind of stupid. The joke was on you calling others irrationalists, then writing lol not one, not two, but three times, and telling us to kill ourselves. Whether you're right or wrong, you have forfeited your right to call others irrational.

As for what you have evaded, you have evaded fucking everything. Writing "lol" is akin to not giving a response at all, you see?

>Why don't you throw the phrase "Moral Relativism" as well.

Mind explaining what the hell's up with this bullshit? How exactly did I come across as a moral relativist?


 No.16926

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>>16915

apparently, you can't reference correctly.

All those "lols" were because those were stupid statements.

"kill yourself idiot" wasn't 4U

Also read the whole greentext next time, faggot.

Also, the guy with the US flag is not me.


 No.16928

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>>16925

I think you have me confused with someone else. I've never told anyone to Kill themselves. (well, at least not in this thread of this board)

Let's backtrack and start over.

>>16860

Did you intend to respond to this?


 No.16934

>>16926

Right, now I see that sentence.

>muh "I can only accept what other people think and write down

This doesn't even sum up my argument. Why don't you go ahead and either tell me that the problems I pointed out either don't apply to you or don't apply to anyone?

>>16928

>I think you have me confused with someone else. I've never told anyone to Kill themselves. (well, at least not in this thread of this board)

Saw that now. My bad.


 No.16940

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>>16934

Someone acknowledging they were wrong and politely apologizing?????

This is the dawning of new day in internet debates.

I salute you as a gentleman and a scholar!


 No.16955

>>16934

You're saying that to accept the fact that god doesn't exist, you need to be an atheist, but since they are all douchebags, you's rather be a theist. Hence god is real, because some people are faggots.


 No.16961

>>16955

It's useless. If he was capable of understanding things, he wouldn't be a Christian.


 No.16963

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>>16955

>>16961

I am an atheist. I just try pretty hard to distance myself from fags like you. And nope, your douchebaggery is not a proof of God, but it comes pretty close.


 No.16972

>>16963

>goalposts

>moving them

You quite literally stated you were a theist.


 No.17129

>>16972

>>16779

>Technically, I'm still an atheist.

>>16833

>Too much faith in the peer review process and the scientific majority, a dishonest rejection of intellectual intuition, outright rejection of anecdotal evidence and personal experience, and the outright rejection of claims that don't fit in the scientific framework.

THIS, the thing that disgusts me most about New Atheism is the rejection of skepticism and cringeworthy faith in science. It is essentially science worship.

>>16908

>lol

>lol

>lol

Is this b8??


 No.17130

>>16972

I didn't. You must've mistaken me for someone else. One of them is also a namefag, Orthobro.


 No.17239

>>17130

S'up.


 No.17253

>>16908

>Muh Logic and Reason.

Literally assburgers tier.




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