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 No.16819

>first time on liberty

>check flags

>mutualism flag, cool

>no individualist or individualist anarchist flag

 No.16823

bubpidy bubp niggehz, gib be de blag


 No.16825

>>16819

cool story

now post flag

ADD SOME NEW FLAGS, BO

>>11956

ADD THESE FLAGS


 No.16828

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k D O R P ing the individualist anarchist flag


 No.16842

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Consider this flag.


 No.16866

>>16819

The individualists didn't have a special flag. They just used the regular full black anarchist flag.


 No.16868

>>16866

Shouldn't an Individualist use a flag of his own design?


 No.16871

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here you go


 No.16893

>>16871

>oy vey this guy doesn't want me to parasitize his labor and use it to subsidize my fellow mental invalids, TO THE GAS CHAMBERS WITH HIM!


 No.16896

>>16893

Excuse my ignorance but what's wrong with one person voluntarily exchanging labour for another person's money?


 No.16916

>>16896

Nothing. Individualist anarchism doesn't disagree with that imo.

IndAn was almost a 19th Century prototype for Ancap. In fact, they were criticized at the time for promoting capitalistic anarchy. They were socialists by the standards of the time, because they agreed with the labor theory of value, but people like Lysander Spooner (who was also in the first international) and Benjamin Tucker supported private property and free markets. That's a step closer to Ancap compared with Mutualism which supports free markets but only occupancy and not private property, and completely antithetical to Anarcho-Collectivism, and Anarcho-Communism.


 No.16918

>>16916

So what do you believe in? Are you anti-capitalist? Do you have ghosts in your head?


 No.16924

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>>16916

>but people like Lysander Spooner (who was also in the first international) and Benjamin Tucker supported private property and free markets.

I've been saying that since I first read Tucker, but I swear to Christ, stupid ansocs won't have any of those actual facts. If praxeology had been a thing back then, Tucker and Spooner might've been ancaps, or bleeding-heart libertarians at least.


 No.16943

>>16918

I believe in anarchywillbepossiblewhentranshumanismgivesusthepowertosurviveasindividualswithoutsocietyandeveninspacebutillbeacenturydeadbythensoohwelltyrannyitistheresnothingicandoaboutthatism.

That's my ideology. Or just Anarcho-Transhumanism, but I don't think that's quite the same, since they are usually just anarchists who want the freedom to upgrade their bodies, and not people who think upgrading humans would be a necessary prerequisite for anarchy.

"He who is unable to live in society, or who has no need because he is sufficient for himself, must be either a beast or a god." - Aristotle.

We're stuck in the middle right now, and so we have societies, which are inherently authoritarian, as opposed to fluid free association without dependency relationships, which can only exist if and when man becomes a more individually robust kind of entity.

>>16924

Though Tucker did believe that land should be used continually to avoid monopoly, and he opposed usury, he tended to believe that the things he found immoral would be destroyed through market forces, so yeah, not far off really.


 No.16952

>>16819

>>16828

>>16825

I gotchu fam.

>>16871

I'm tempted to put this up just to use it as my personal flag tbh

>>16916

Sounds cool. I like learning about the history of anarchy in the 19th century. It hardly gets any attention at all.


 No.16962

>>16943

Next time just write that you are a faggot.


 No.16970

>>16962

Next time use a sharpened rock to bash your brains in, primitivist scum!


 No.16975

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>mfw my flag


 No.16977

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>>16943

That will all be possible with AI

>tfw you own three planets and an asteroid

>tfw your house is as large as europe

>tfw your asteroid is just your private sauna and gym

>tfw you shuttle back and forth in your new Space Porsche

feels good fam


 No.16984

Well actually, most individualist anarchists are mutualists


 No.16989

>>16984

Same for anarcho-transhumanists.

If an ideology is prefixed with "anarcho," you can be sure they are anti-capitalists.


 No.16995


 No.17005

>>16995

they're correct.


 No.17050

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>>16989

I've never met an anarcho-transhumanist who wasn't an AnCap who just didn't give a shit about economics.

Socialist Transhumanists? Oh yes, state bootlickers by the hundreds. Lefty/Mutualist Anarcho-Transhumanists though? That is a rare breed of unicorn that I have yet to meet, bro. I've only met maybe one who I could consider kind of mutualist, and even he recognized that property rights trumped occupancy/use in most scenarios.


 No.17056

>>17050

/leftypol/ is full of socialist anarcho transhumanists


 No.17058

>>17050

Literally every anarcho-transhumanists I know of is anti-capitalist many are trans, too


 No.17087

>>17058

Transgenderism is a mental illness


 No.17091

>>17056

They're delusional. Transhumanism will increase inequality.


 No.17221

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