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/liberty/, why don't you want this to happen? Anonymous 02/06/16 (Sat) 01:33:48 No.17133

Can't you see that the NAP gets in the way of a glorious future without communism or fascism?

Orthobro 02/06/16 (Sat) 01:54:12 No.17135

If I can use it on others, it will inevitably be used on me or my offspring.

If I actively pursue another's death without them having aggressed against me first, I'm subject to the same treatment.

Nazis leave Libertarians alone for the most part because they understand this, even if they disagree with me. The smart commies also understand this, and hide behind "democratic socialism."

Anonymous 02/06/16 (Sat) 02:38:50 No.17137

>>17133

Because if you make exceptions for your principles, you don't have them.

Anonymous 02/06/16 (Sat) 04:21:06 No.17141

social darwinism = good

Anonymous ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ 02/06/16 (Sat) 05:25:39 No.17143

Anonymous 02/06/16 (Sat) 05:43:19 No.17144

Because if they are dead we cant endlessly mock them and economically crush them through our superior ideology. Killing others (outside of self defense) is what people who are insecure about what they believe in do.

Also this >>17137

Anonymous 02/06/16 (Sat) 15:51:40 No.17148

>Breaking your principles for a future in which your principles are followed

No thanks, I'll leave that to the commies.

Anonymous 02/06/16 (Sat) 16:44:53 No.17153

But guys, if privatizing everything leads to a more powerful economy, then you will inherently be stronger than commies who collectivize everything and nazis who stop free trade and don't privatize everything.

The main argument: >>17135 is that if you break the NAP then violence could be used on you, but the problem with that argument is that these groups have no problem using violence on you already. They don't need to wait for you to attack them, because they are already planning to put their states over you.

That's why you should drop the NAP and Ancap and embrace something more like an efficient collaboration of free market city states that gang together under a monarch CEO elected by the shareholders to assault enemy territories and deal with political scum. Basically, anyone advocating political change is calling to take away people's fundamental rights to a free market in property, so they should be executed.

Anonymous 02/06/16 (Sat) 18:14:11 No.17154

>>17153

Cast the Ring into the fire! Destroy it! Isildur!

Anonymous 02/06/16 (Sat) 18:18:23 No.17155

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>17153

Dude, we warned you about the consequentialists!

Anonymous 02/07/16 (Sun) 15:49:59 No.17197

>>17133

who made that?

Anonymous 02/07/16 (Sun) 16:39:49 No.17204

>>17197

intellectual property is crony capitalism

Anonymous 02/07/16 (Sun) 18:55:25 No.17208

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>>17197

Yeah. I'm not an artist. It's just supposed to be a representation of my schemes. I also plan to create theme parks that kill my enemies.

Here's an earlier meme magic schematic.

Anonymous 02/07/16 (Sun) 19:52:02 No.17213

>>17208

>ten feet ball pit

Gotta be honest, I kek'd. Still, just how autistic are you? Back to >>>/pol/.

Anonymous 02/07/16 (Sun) 19:55:55 No.17214

>>17208

kc tire

Anonymous 02/07/16 (Sun) 20:17:10 No.17215

>>17213

Genocide is just applied autism.

Anonymous 02/07/16 (Sun) 20:18:47 No.17216

>>17215

To be honest I just think

PRIVATIZED DEATH CAMPS

seem really cool, and would certainly pay for themselves.

Anonymous 02/20/16 (Sat) 02:33:55 No.17671

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>>17208

I see that you also hate ancaps. Good, I hate you too ;)

Anonymous 02/20/16 (Sat) 04:50:27 No.17681

OP is everything that's wrong with consequentialism.

Anonymous 02/20/16 (Sat) 15:31:53 No.17700

>>17681

>muh natural rights that don't exist and are completely made up

>not being a moral nihilist and pursuing your rational self-interest

Anonymous 02/20/16 (Sat) 16:46:16 No.17705

>>17700

>Logically inferring that natural rights are a thing = making them up

Anonymous 02/20/16 (Sat) 17:42:57 No.17713

>>17705

If you logically infer something that can't be empirically verified, then your presuppositions are faulty.

Anonymous 02/20/16 (Sat) 22:04:51 No.17745

>>17713

How would you empirically verify a mathematical proof?

Anonymous 02/20/16 (Sat) 22:07:21 No.17747

>>17133

Spreading Communism is a violation of the NAP therefor it is never a violation of the NAP to kill commies.

Anonymous 02/20/16 (Sat) 22:17:26 No.17752

>>17747

>Spreading Communism is a violation of the NAP

Nope. Only instituting communism is.

Anonymous 02/27/16 (Sat) 21:10:57 No.18358

>>17135

>If I actively pursue another's death without them having aggressed against me first, I'm subject to the same treatment.

I agree

I would entertain this idea however

what if you killed every enemy at the same time?

Anonymous 02/27/16 (Sat) 21:12:54 No.18359

>>17153

>if you break the NAP then violence could be used on you, but the problem with that argument is that these groups have no problem using violence on you already. They don't need to wait for you to attack them, because they are already planning to put their states over you.

and thats why many people are 'national libertarians'

internally - ancap

externally - anarchy

Anonymous 02/27/16 (Sat) 22:30:24 No.18396

>>18359

>and thats why many people are 'national libertarians'

>internally - ancap

>externally - anarchy

But the enemy is inside the gates. All forms of ancap or libertarianism are wrong. Post-libertarian ideas like NRx come closer, but are still off.

To achieve a private property Utopia you need authoritarian capitalism willing to banish all threats to property ownership.

Nationalism is a prole ideology because it puts the race of the masses first, before aristocratic values. With technology we can kill off the nazis and throw them in the rubbish heap of history along with the commies.

Anonymous 02/27/16 (Sat) 22:47:39 No.18409

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>>18396

>To achieve a private property Utopia you need authoritarian capitalism willing to banish all threats to property ownership.

yes

I think the scale is everything

large authorianstates ahve tremendous problems, the two largest are

* single point of failure making it really easy to wreck everything, see pic

* inertia of scale - the world is too complex for humans to understand. large scale totalitarianism fails for the same reason commie planned economies fail

>But the enemy is inside the gates

yes. the way to go is social ostracation, from disappointed look to exile.

also see how mormons are handling their degenerates.

>kill off the nazis and throw them in the rubbish heap of history

you need to read mein kampf

I disagree with a.h. on the super strictly monoethnic society, but there certainly is a lot of truth to it (monethnicsociety, and also everything else in the book, sans economics)