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 No.17479

Thoughts about Comrade Pope of the People's Church of Catholicism?

 No.17480

There are 2 Christian Anarchists on this board

One is Protestant (me) and one is Orthodox (Orthobro)

Not gonna go on an anti-Catholic rant here, but yeah. Catholics love government. Catholic theology is man-centred.


 No.17484

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>>17480

I've not been around long but I consider myself Christian.

>>17479

Catholicism is not the best religion for libertarianism/anarchism. Catholics tend towards Empires, and they literally believe that human beings can act with the authority of God, placing them in a position above their fellow man.

Protestant doctrine is much more individualistic and I often think that during the Thirty Years War when the Holy Roman Emperor declared war on Saxony, a state which simply wanted to practice its autonomous right to practice its own religion, there are forgotten parallels with the American Civil War regarding states' rights.

Orthodoxy is also fine with individualism, but Catholics began their reign in Europe after the fall of Rome by instituting laws and gathering up Europe's wealth to the Church and it was only with the Reformation that nations were able to be truly competitive with their laws. France's persecution of their Huguenot population (from which I am descended) led to a mass exodus to England, Brandenburg, the Netherlands and Switzerland. It is thought that as many Huguenots were middle and upper class this caused a brain drain which assisted in France's defeat by England and Prussia in the Napoleonic Wars. The arrival of Lutheranism in northern Germany led to the hundreds of microstates there being able to finally compete with laws providing freedom as they were at last free from the grip of Rome. The wealth of the average German increased significantly in the decades following the Peace of Westphalia, despite the fact that half of German males died in the conflict.

As for the current Pope, he's a Latin American socialist who panders to minorities and gays. He's little different to Bernie Sanders or Jeremy Corbyn, except that thankfully his power was greatly diminished by the brave Protestant and Reformed Soldiers of the Thirty Years War.


 No.17490

Even by organized religion standards the catholics are scum. I genuinely can't even fathom how people can still bring themselves to be part of such a historically corrupt institution.


 No.17491

>>17479

That's rather heritical phrasing


 No.17492

>>17480

Are you retarded or strawmanning?


 No.17505

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>>17480

>Catholics love government. Catholic theology is man-centred.

Current day Catholics maybe, old school Catholics like Andrew Napolitano seem to be very pro small government


 No.17506

>>17491

*Heretical

>>17492

Neither. Out of Catholicism, Orthodoxy and Protestantism, Catholicism has the most man-centred theology.

"The Pope, Bishop of Rome and Peter's successor, is the perpetual and visible source and foundation of the unity both of the bishops and of the whole company of the faithful. For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, and as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered."

That's straight out of your catechism.


 No.17573

>>17505

If this ideological separation of old school Catholics and current day Catholics is real, what do you think caused this schism?


 No.17580

>>17573

Secular explanation: the second Vatican council created a traditional versus modern schism.

Christian explanation: modernism deteriorates even the Catholic church, proving that it is not the "One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church". All churches that are in Christ are his, but all churches are run by fallen men, sinners.


 No.17585

>>17573

>what do you think caused this schism?

Not a Catholic but what >>17580 said, Second Vatican council obviously had some kind of large idealogical shift which caused the schism.

Googling the changes the Second Council made turns up what seems to be a massive list so there are likely to be many things which individual traditionalist disagrees with.


 No.17586

I may have gotten my mind turned around by Dan Hannan thanks to Inventing Freedom but weren't catholics always hated for among other things being vile statist fucks?


 No.17930

>>17506

…He acts as gods voice

Whereas protestant churches rely on mans interpretations of the catholic assembled Bible.


 No.18017

>>17930

>…He acts as gods voice

Well I guess God's a communist then because the pope certainly is. Fucking pink tide washed over latam like nothing I've ever seen.


 No.18019

>>17930

Ok I don't mean to nitpick but are you really a Christian? You misspelled "heresy" and you don't capitalize "God"

I really don't see how a man acting as the voice of God is not man-centred theology… You really are proving my point there.

And how is centralized Catholic interpretation less man-centred than decentralized Protestant interpretation? Isn't it more man-centred to say "there is only one interpretation of the Bible and it is mine"? If Catholics do not rely on man's interpretation, then why does the Catholic church have official interpretations and doctrines? How can you say that Protestants rely on man's interpretation when the Catholic interpretation was written by men? Are Catholic men different to other Christian men? Seems completely man-centred. You're basically saying that Catholics have exclusive access to God, as if you're a superior race that possesses special abilities.

Please just think about what you're saying… that this liberal Argentinian "acts as God's voice"




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