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 No.17512

How could union power function under Anarcho-Capitalism?

Could unions free themselves from antiproperty ideology, and organize to pool resources, buy shares in businesses, and then try to run those businesses in ways where profits are put back into worker benefits?

A number of these unions could then follow syndicalist ideology and group together in a voluntary worldwide confederation/s of union co-ops to control financial resources and use them to take advantage of scale to provide welfare for their members within the bounds of profit margins.

 No.17513

>>17512

They could also carry over the instantly recallable delegates idea from left anarchy, but have instantly recallable CEOs answerable to worker share democracy.


 No.17883

What you outline is perfectly acceptable morally under anarcho-capitalism, but I don't think it would work out all that well practically. Situations were companies must maintain a high level of profitability at all times to support union obligations don't end well for the companies in question, since it leaves them unable to lower prices or reinvest in capital goods. What happened to American manufacturers from 1980-2000 is an example of the worst case scenario.


 No.17888

>>17883

It would be worth promoting though, simply because it would be the ultimate test of whether socialism works or not. A free market without anti-socialist laws should test it well enough.

Unfortunately, it seems like socialists too often want to control EVERYTHING by force.


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 No.17927

What>>17905 said.

All that unions are is a representation of collective bargaining with employers. If enough people stand for, say, a rate rise, then they will probably get it due to the employer having real trouble in finding a worker that doesn't want to join such a collective.


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>>17512

So basically these guys but across company/industry lines?


 No.18006

>>18004

Yeah, basically a load of co-ops would band together into a confederation and pool the profit left after workers wages, centrally, so that they could use it when a particular co-op is in trouble.

Basically, help each other like a family. Kind of like how in Japan you have businesses buying shares in their suppliers and vice versa, so that each is invested in the success of the other. It's called Keiretsu.

Basically take the concept of keiretsu, but have the businesses comprising the business groups be worker co-ops, and then you have something close to a free market socialist grouping. Better than living in a dirty closed off commune that survives off subsistence agriculture, anyway.




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