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 No.18405

>FIRE is in the sticky

>No one has said a single goddam thing about free speech.

Time to change this by asking for opinions on some of the standard "lifeboat scenarios"/"trolley problems" of free speech:

- What do you think of the old "Crying FIRE in a crowded theater" example? (the attached)

- What do you think about the speech zones etc. on college campuses nowadays?

- What do you think spam has to do with free speech if anything at all?

- What do you think about libel/slander laws?

- Hate speech?

- Should someone be prosecuted for "inciting a riot?"

- Is there an inherent dichotomy between privacy and free speech?

 No.18410

>>18405

>crying fire in a crowded theater

The theater owners should put up a notice that says something to the effect of "by entering this theater, you agree not you shout that there is a fire when there is none." Otherwise it should be permitted.

>speech zones on college campuses

I don't like it, but if it is private property then they are okay.

>spam

Fine. I couldn't care less about a few boner pill ads.

>libel/slander laws

I'm concerned about their abuse (like Trump has promised to do), they are a in a grey area

>hate speech

What this really means is "speech that I hate"

>inciting a riot

Conspiracy to commit a crime is certainly immoral, but riling people up is not.

>dichotomy between privacy and free speech

Yes, and I come down strongly in favor of free speech.


 No.18411

>>18410

To elaborate on the point about privacy, if you start valuing privacy over free speech it is only a matter of time before privacy rights are exploited by the state. Your taking pictures of the Party's Death Camps for Reactionaries is a violation of the the Chairman's privacy rights, comrade!


 No.18426

>>18410

>Fine. I couldn't care less about a few boner pill ads.

Spam is like knocking on someone's door and delivering them a message repeatedly even though they say "leave me alone," so repeated spam is like repeatedly knocking on someone's door, basically.

>I'm concerned about their abuse (like Trump has promised to do), they are a in a grey area

Libel and slander are not violations of property rights, see https://www.lewrockwell.com/2008/12/walter-e-block/sue-for-libel/


 No.18442

>>18410

>I'm concerned about their abuse (like Trump has promised to do), they are a in a grey area

I'm pretty sure that at least everyone agrees that what counts as libel in the U.K. is fucking ridiculous.




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