/liberty/ - Liberty

>>18413

1)

- tremendous cost

- wont work (too powerful)

- we are not judges. NAP reactionary doesnt give you unlimited redemption ala 'he pushed me therefore its ok torture and kill his entire family'

2) the numbers dont work out for democratic governments

there just arent enough people who are capable of understanding ancap

3) thats the way to go

* crypto anarchism all the way

- currency

- stock (fuck goldmansachs taking 7% + commissions on people that purchase it)

- finance everything

- various other markets (e.g. silkroad)

- communication (TOR/i2p…)

- anti intellectual property (piracy)

* truly free interwebz

satellites in space

* ending energy monopolies

bonus: this also ends the evil dictatorships funded by it

- next gen nuclear

note: uranium IS aviable in ocean water

cost of urnium is a small portion of the price of nuclear i.e. would not be much more expensive to fish instead of mine

thorium all over the place

- fusion

hydrogen (and isotopes) from ocean (and pretty much any meteorite)

+++ boron availability ?

- oil

its feasible to manufactor hydrocarbons using carbon from the air and hydrogen from the ocean + electricity ## of course only if electricity is cheap enough

* ending other ressource monopolies

- space mining for (precious) metals

when space becomes cheap enough (hi spacex)

- rare earths

the US actually has a lot of them, they are mingled with thorium

one problem is that thorium is mostly harmless, but according to regulations is 'an evil radiactive substance that has to be disposed of in expensive ways

just burying it isnt acceptable, even though there is megatons of it buried all over the place. gotta follow those special regulations

* other things we should have

- missle defense from nukes / interceptive missles

>>18417

bonus vid

>>18419

we need a certain proximity to the rest of the world for trade purposes

all large companies employ a lot of nonelites. including code companies and banks

also if it becomes too powerful without popular support it will be crushed

>>18420

Yeah I didn't think about problems of scale and things like that

>>18421

But at least if it wasn't a complete fuck up that would probably be something

>>18422

its certainly true that we have to start somewhere

and grow it from there. of course this assumes our channels for growing are open (political / information, real estate, ..)

>would probably be something

yeah

kinda like greece?

something for future generations to learn about in underground history lessons

its a strange place we are in in this world.

intelligent life (humans) is obviously superior to 'dumb-strong life' (animals). yet thats not what usually evolves. dumb life fightes us really hard.

an exception among exceptions among exceptions on a rare planet. what are the odds?

>stop voting,

I'd expect this kind of immaturity from /pol/. It's only a respectable position if you have no investment in elections at all. (no taxes, no NEET bucks, no savings account, no heath plan, no investments, no money, no assets, no job, etc.)

If you are utterly removed from the political world and don't really care for the size and speed of the government dick that fucks you, I could learn to respect your decision. If otherwise, you're a faggot and a loser.

>stop paying taxes,

good luck with that

>>18441

Sure, no NEET bucks, but the rest can be black market.

The Ayn Rand, "But what about the warlords?" objection would end up winning if three was not viable. If three is not feasible, then I fail to see how anarcho-capitalism will be viable in the long term.

So, one might as well go along the third route.

>>18413

Well, I'm an electrical technician, not a politician/economist/*insert fancy title here.*

So the most use I'd serve in politics is as a puppet for someone to pluck heartstrings, so that's worthless to me. Not to mention the whole saying about sleeping with the dogs…

And I'm also a bit of a pacifist, so I'm really against the idea of violently overthrowing anything- after all, anything that is violently overthrown will inevitably be replaced with something worse. The American Revolutionary War was an exception to the rule for the first century or so anyways, nowadays it's looking like I'm right, but it was not the norm for its time. By the time of the civil war, even that institute was corrupt. Plus, wanting to start a family, getting myself blown up is a no go.

Therefore all I have left is option 3 which I'm happy to oblige to, since it lets me fuck with government-backed unions as well as work under the table.

Inaction will really drive the state under, especially if combined with entrepreneurship that provides superior services. Example: Cell 411 has taken off in the last couple weeks, and I've expanded my range of folks I can help in my local community to a surrounding 15 mile radius.

>>18451

They can be, but they aren't. Until you and I are independent of government, we will have every reason to vote.

>>18413

You missed one out.

4) In the distant future, all work is automated, including the construction of robots, inventing the automatic capitalist in effect.

The price of goods, including robots shoots towards zero, and so does the price of administering government services, meaning that taxes fall too. Government becomes municipalized and gradually fades away, with most people in 2300 being highly advanced cyborgs or full on machines able to survive without depending on others, and spread out into space.

>>18591

That said, from the options you mentioned, I'd take a variant of #2: promote secessionism. The endgame of widespread secessions and sub-secessions is a Hoppean ancap confederation.

>>18591

I want it so bad :;(((((((