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 No.18786

"I think freedom of movement is essential for labor, but immigration is a bad thing!"

"Voting is a waste of time, but I'm going to regularly talk about the Presidential race!" (embed related)

"I think Snowden was a hero for releasing state documents, but Hillary was evil for doing so!"

"People can censor opinions on their property, but fuck the PC media!"

"Privacy is fundamental, but X should be transparent!"

"Freedom of speech is great, but the ACLU is full of untrustworthy commies!"

 No.18793

>>18786

So basically you are huge faggot


 No.18794

>>18793

*a huge faggot


 No.18795

Free trade does not equal free movement.

Voting will is a waste of time, but we like to humor ourselves and stay relevant.

Snowdon intentionally released documents because he knew what was happening was wrong. Hillary did it to stir shit.

The PC media recieves a number of stories from government. The TV industry is inorganic as fuck in market terms.

The only X that should be transparent is government.

The ACLU is full of fucking commies. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom to not be judged.


 No.18797

> "I think freedom of movement is essential for labor, but immigration is a bad thing!"

Neither of these is a libertarian perspective.

> "Voting is a waste of time, but I'm going to regularly talk about the Presidential race!" (embed related)

This is not a libertarian perspective. It is a view that can be held alongside libertarianism. The same is not true for anarchists. There is a Libertarian nomination.

> "I think Snowden was a hero for releasing state documents, but Hillary was evil for doing so!"

Snowden was a whistle-blower. Hillary was a negligent politician. That both broke federal law is a statement of fact. One of these people is a liberal, the other voted for the Patriot Act.

> "People can censor opinions on their property, but fuck the PC media!"

The media has the right to be shit. There is no contradiction.

> "Privacy is fundamental, but X should be transparent!"

Transparency is only expected of the state. For everything else, choice reigns.

> "Freedom of speech is great, but the ACLU is full of untrustworthy commies!"

Two completely unrelated opinions that aren't exclusive.

OP is either insane or incredibly stupid. Perhaps both.


 No.19193

>>18786

>Shit libertarians say that you don't get.

"I'm an ancap"


 No.19199

>I'm against the NSA and for privacy!

>Excuse me while I check my Facebook feed that lists every libertarian group I'm part of and every libertarian friend I have in a nice, public list for the government's sake and then promptly use this completely unsecured phone.


 No.19224

>"I think freedom of movement is essential for labor, but immigration is a bad thing!"

Freedom of movement is important, but open borders and amnesty destroys countries. Look at Europe. Secure borders are important to protect your country. Most libertarians would agree that immigration is good, but tax payers shouldn't be forced to pay for their welfare and they shouldn't be given special rights or be immune from the law. Legal immigration in the US works because most assimilate, follow the law, contribute to the economy, and bring good parts of their culture to the US. The US was built on (mostly) sensible immigration. Europe is failing because their cultures are fundamentally incompatible, a lot of them don't assimilate, they refuse to go after people who break the law, give them endless welfare, and ignore their own citizens.

>"Voting is a waste of time, but I'm going to regularly talk about the Presidential race!" (embed related)

Independent on political belief. Voting works when your political system isn't bought out and controlled. A lot of libertarians want money out of the political system and the people to have power.

>"I think Snowden was a hero for releasing state documents, but Hillary was evil for doing so!"

Snowden was a whistleblower upholding his oath to the Constitution and revealing to the American people how they were being abused. Hillary is a politician with a history of corruption and fraud, voted for the Patriot Act, constantly breaks US law, and is lying to the FBI, DOJ, and the American people.

>"People can censor opinions on their property, but fuck the PC media!"

People can, that doesn't mean we have to like it.

>"Privacy is fundamental, but X should be transparent!"

Government has a responsibility to the people, not the other way around.

>"Freedom of speech is great, but the ACLU is full of untrustworthy commies!"

They should be able to say whatever they want, you don't have to agree with them.


 No.19259

>thinking that trump is more libertarian than bernie

>seeing ted cruz as anything other than a neocon shill

>failing to see how campaign contributions demolish any semblance of democracy

>opposing abortion

>supporting a free market while opposing immigration and free trade

>supporting age restrictions for drugs when they're legalized

>the lack of activism/discussion relating to prisoners and sentencing

>supporting states rights to pass/keep authoritarian laws

>completely ignoring what ron paul says about trump

I can't see how any of these things can be justified from a libertarian perspective.

>The ACLU is full of fucking commies.

Why should that matter if they consistently fight for civil liberties (which they do)? They even defended a neo nazi march in a jewish town ffs.

>"Privacy is fundamental, but X should be transparent!"

The more control people have over a government, the freer they are. Privacy makes things harder to control. That's why individuals should have it and governments shouldn't.


 No.19268

>>18786

>"I think freedom of movement is essential for labor, but immigration is a bad thing!"

immigration can be bad. if lew or tom said something like that they are reffering to a specific subset of immigration, probably illegal maxicans

>"Voting is a waste of time, but I'm going to regularly talk about the Presidential race!" (embed related)

for entertainment purposes?

to understand the future of the country. you might not be able to influence the outcome but the info is still useful.

>"I think Snowden was a hero for releasing state documents, but Hillary was evil for doing so!"

what makes you think those situation are equivalent?

>"People can censor opinions on their property, but fuck the PC media!"

because they are actively, intentionally and severly falsifying information

and also spread marxist indoctrination

>"Privacy is fundamental, but X should be transparent!"

wheres the contradiction?

>"Freedom of speech is great, but the ACLU is full of untrustworthy commies!"

where is the contradiction?

tldr: you are fucking retarded. kill yourself.


 No.19280

>>19259

>Boynie Sanders

>libertarian anything

The man is a menshevik jew running to lose and futher radicalise the Democrat base. Trump at least represents a chance to euthanize the Neocohens and the indistinguishable-from-the-DNC cuckservatives, the two main groups that have been instrumental in marginalizing constitutionalist/libertarian groups inside the GOP.

>supporting a free market while opposing immigration and free trade

Support for immigration unless heavily qualified in $CURRENTYEAR shows you to be the worst kind of ideologue.


 No.19285

>>19259

>thinking that trump is more libertarian than bernie

That's more like an apples and oranges comparison.

>seeing ted cruz as anything other than a neocon shill

I agree with this.

>failing to see how campaign contributions demolish any semblance of democracy

Libertarianism is not about democracy *you hear Hoppe's primal scream in the distance*

>opposing abortion

As someone who can not have kids, why should I give a fuck about the abortion debate? Why don't I leave it to the ones who can procreate?

>supporting a free market while opposing immigration and free trade

I agree with this.

>supporting age restrictions for drugs when they're legalized

I agree with this.

>the lack of activism/discussion relating to prisoners and sentencing

…really? Is there a libertarian worth his salt that wants to get rid of all the bs forfeiture/indefinite detentions/drug war fueling the prisons? Either you have completely different standards or are blind.

>supporting states rights to pass/keep authoritarian laws

Concrete examples?

>completely ignoring what ron paul says about trump

He's been saying stuff about him? I thought he had better things to do like talk about people dying in Syria.




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