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 No.18987

It worked in Spain, didn't it?

 No.18989

Communism thread :DD


 No.18999

>>18987

Got some friends from Spain, one of them's got aristocratic blood and the money to match.

No, it didn't.


 No.19037

>>18999

How did it not work? I can't find much about it

There's one article that said it sort of worked, but all they did was have workers' syndicates instead of entrepreneurs / share holders

I don't know whether they had much economic growth though or whether it would have been competitive in the long run


 No.19042

>>18987

The Anarcho-Statists of Spain by Bryan Caplan is a good read as to why all they produced was the same shit as the Marxists states did, only in miniature. What was supposedly run by the workers was run by the anarchist vanguard as soon as the workers started to run their co-ops like capitalists and worry about cost vs revenue. Catalonia was essentially just a totalitarian micro-state with an agrarian economy and exaggerated propaganda.

Of course, all the criticisms about not being stateless can be turned back on Ancap, with its silly polycentric chieftainships, but that's fine by me as I'm a filthy classical liberal state lover.

I don't think it's possible to not have a state.


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>>19042

>Of course, all the criticisms about not being stateless can be turned back on Ancap, with its silly polycentric chieftainships, but that's fine by me as I'm a filthy classical liberal state lover.

You are mixing police-military concerns with economic ones. Anarcho-capitalism and minarchism converge to basically the same model in the absence of violence or the threat thereof.

When police and military concerns are relevant, anarcho-capitalism (at least the Hoppean variety) doesn't HAVE to be polycentric. Natural aristocracy and leadership have their place, they just don't get a blank check of obedience for being who they are.


 No.19163

>>19042

Was the Paris Commune truly a commune?


 No.19483

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>>18987

It will never be as efficient as the invisible hand, not to mention the fact that a communist "paradise" would be inefficient. You would lose gun rights, private ownership, the incentive to work, and nothing would ever get done correctly.

Please, /leftypol/, read "The Road To Serfdom", or fuck off.


 No.19484

>>19483

*would be ineffective




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