>>19398
I just don't want /liberty/ to degrade into ad hominem and
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While I do not care for fascism and Stalinism, I respect them as the only other ideologies that are logically consistent. A person either has a right to bodily autonomy or he or she does not; none of this some rights (which are all aspects of the one to bodily autonomy) are okay to violate but not others nonsense. The ways to morally justify anything besides anarchy or a totalitarian state are
1) God said to do this, so we are
2) People don't have any fundamental natural rights (yay consequentialism XD), but we aren't implementing totalitarianism (not that there is anything wrong with that) at the moment because we don't need to
3) There is no non-normative morality, and the Constitution says so and so
Cases 1 and 3 are intellectually bankrupt. A government built upon case 2 turns into totalitarianism in a hot minute after someone seductively whispers "its for the greater good."