/liberty/ - Liberty

You can justify Stalinism morally within a Consequentialist framework if you accept leftist premises about the evils of wage labor. But using the muh 100 gorillion line in an argument is very lazy, and turns it into a numbers game where you count deaths not quite attributable to communism and they count deaths not quite attributable to capitalism.

>>19315

Especially if arguing with an anarchocommunist; states do bad things is something you both agree on, so saying that to them is even more absurd.

>>19316

Why? You think you need a "state" for terror?

The state creates a structure which legitimises human violence, it gives violence a license, so that violence might be called law enforcement. Red terror within the law is only superficially different from red terror without the law. The terror can happen with or without a state vindicator.

Stalinism might have cast a greater shadow on the 20th century but the violent history of militant anarchism isn't lost on the memory of informed people.

Found this:

https://www.schwarzreport.org/resources/essays/why-communism-kills

Although it's clearly written from a christian perspective. I still think it's quite enlightening.