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 No.19338

Libertypill me on Aaron Burr. Everything I've ever read about him has told me he was a shifty treacherous fuck, but nobody that kills Alexander Hamilton can be all bad.

 No.19353

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Are you serious man?

Alexander Hamilton was a hero for the cause of liberty


 No.19355

>>19353

Anon, he wanted there to be a national debt. He wanted central economic planning. He wanted centralization of power in the federal government.


 No.19356

>>19353

Hamilton was the designer of the central bank, a federalist, and he even wanted a U.S. monarchy…are YOU serious?


 No.19371

>>19355

>>19356

To be fair, most folks assume any old white rich dude who liked the USA back then was a hero for the cause of liberty.


 No.19374

>>19356

Hamilton wanted a US monarchy?


 No.19377

>>19374

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/hamilton/peopleevents/e_federalist.html

>Hamilton's best moment as a delegate came when he outlined his ideas for government in a six-hour speech on June 18. He called for senators who would serve "during good behavior" and a chief executive, or national governor, who would appoint state governors. This "elective monarch" (in the words of note-taker James Madison), would also serve "during good behavior," meaning indefinitely, without a set elective term. Madison's reference to royalty was apt because in the same speech Hamilton declared that Britain's government was "the best in the world." Though some other delegates shared Hamilton's views about electing a long-serving, king-like president and concentrating power in an elite class of elected federal officials, it was a far more centralized plan than most people supported.

Speech given in the 1787 constitutional convention.


 No.19378

>>19377

That fucking cunt.


 No.19382

>>19377

Britain's government really was the best in the world at that time though.


 No.19383

>>19382

REMOVE TORY remove tory you are the worst monarchist. you are the monarchist idiot you are the monarchist smell


 No.19386

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>>19382

Dafuq? It was an authoritarian fuckhole.


 No.19388

>>19386

I think his point was "Compared to all the other shitholes, Britain was the least designated shitting street."


 No.19391

>>19388

The East India Company did not have large territorial claims in 1787.


 No.19393

>>19391

If that was a counterjoke, I didn't get it.


 No.19408

Uhm…guys, we all ignored the OP's original question.


 No.19409

>>19382

you mean aside from the US under the articles of confederation, of course, yes?


 No.19410

>>19388

Except that it wasn't. At best, it was marginally better, but still shit.


 No.19418

>>19410

Dude, EVERYTHING was shit in the 18th century. In many places quite literally.

You hear cholera screaming in the background.


 No.19420

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

I'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet.


 No.19422

If Hamilton had wanted 200 small hereditary monarchies that had male-favored inheritance where the adult man with the most children would inherit (this would mean that the person inheriting had a big investment in the future of the kingdom), he would have been a hero for the cause of liberty. But, no, 1 big absolute monarchy a shit. Slightly less a shit than 1 big democracy. More shit than a genuinely limited republic.


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 No.19485

>>19422

>le hoppean autist face

You are the worst poster on this board besides the fucking /pol/ retard. Why you even come here rather than jerking off in /pol/ over how awesome the divine right of kings is is beyond me. The one thing the french revolution got right is that all monarchists ought to be put to fucking death.


 No.19488

>>19485

>The SJW-tier French Revolution did a thing right

>>>/leftypol/

pls go and stay go


 No.19490

>>19488

Cry some more about it you little bitch. Sic semper tyrannis.


 No.19491

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>>19490

You appear to be upset. Are you upset? Agitated, maybe? Bongleswogged?




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