Rebellion

Name
Email
Subject
Comment *
File	Select/drop/paste files here
* = required field	[▶ Show post options & limits] Confused? See the FAQ.

File: 1458446757934.png (630.72 KB, 431x575, 431:575, nevadastandoff.PNG)

Rebellion Anonymous 03/20/16 (Sun) 04:05:57 No.19440

Under what circumstances would /liberty/ consider a violent insurrection against the state to be justified? How much must freedom be curtailed before shooting state officials is a proportionate response?

Anonymous 03/20/16 (Sun) 04:45:01 No.19441

After they start opening death camps. Before that point the government is probably made up of reasonable people who don't realize the implications of their policies. But after they open death camps, their malevolence is beyond doubt.

Anonymous 03/20/16 (Sun) 07:52:16 No.19443

File: 1458460336220.jpg (71.22 KB, 788x409, 788:409, lao_tzu.jpg)

Define violent insurrection.

Are we talking actively going after folks, or a defensive sort of violence?

I can not approve of any circumstances in which it's alright to murder a governor/banker and his/her family for the sole purpose of insurrection. I will not approve of any situation in which violence is used unprovoked in order to attack individuals who make up the state, no matter how vile and downright detestable they are. I would not even advocate murdering the likes of Stalin or Hitler, though I would certainly want to remove them from power via less-than-deadly means.

That being said, at the point at which the state has made an active effort to harm those who oppose it, I see no wrong in resisting and persevering in self-defense. While it is wrong to kill a police officer simply for being a police officer, it is completely moral to kill a police officer who's threatening your life and liberty when you're selling acid tabs to a brother.

Anonymous 03/20/16 (Sun) 07:53:56 No.19444

>>19441

This is a reasonable answer as well.

I think the main point here is that it's always better to work around the government via agorist/voluntarist counter-economics unless you're doing so in self defense. We're not murderers, and even that shitty governor probably has a family/just wants the best for folks even if extremely misguided.

Anonymous 03/20/16 (Sun) 12:06:32 No.19445

>>19443

>Define violent insurrection.

This.

Does causing a complete collapse of the banking system through causing panic and triggering bank runs (because fractional reserve banking lol) which eventually leads to government collapse and temporary breakdown of society count as violent insurrection?

Anonymous 03/27/16 (Sun) 04:56:29 No.19646

>>19440

If we aren't on the right track by like 2030 I feel like any hope of a free society in america happening is entirely contingent on violent revolution.