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Ya'll need Mises.

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 No.95521

How French “Intellectuals” Ruined the West: Pozzmodernism and Its Impact, Explained

Pozzmodernism presents a threat not only to liberal democracy but to modernity itself. That may sound like a bold or even hyperbolic claim, but the reality is that the cluster of ideas and values at the root of Pozzmodernism have broken the bounds of academia and gained great cultural power in western society. The irrational and identitarian “symptoms” of Pozzmodernism are easily recognizable and much criticized, but the ethos underlying them is not well understood. This is partly because Pozzmodernists rarely explain themselves clearly and partly because of the inherent contradictions and inconsistencies of a way of thought which denies a stable reality or reliable knowledge to exist. However, there are consistent ideas at the root of Pozzmodernism and understanding them is essential if we intend to counter them. They underlie the problems we see today in Social Justice Activism, undermine the credibility of the Left and threaten to return us to an irrational and tribal “pre-modern” culture.

Pozzmodernism, most simply, is an artistic and philosophical movement which began in France in the 1960s and produced bewildering art and even more bewildering “theory.” It drew on avant-garde and surrealist art and earlier philosophical ideas, particularly those of Nietzsche and Heidegger, for its anti-realism and rejection of the concept of the unified and coherent individual. It reacted against the liberal humanism of the modernist artistic and intellectual movements, which its proponents saw as naïvely universalizing a western, middle-class and male experience.

It rejected philosophy which valued ethics, reason and clarity with the same accusation. Structuralism, a movement which (often over-confidently) attempted to analyze human culture and psychology according to consistent structures of relationships, came under attack. Marxism, with its understanding of society through class and economic structures was regarded as equally rigid and simplistic. Above all, Pozzmodernists attacked science and its goal of attaining objective knowledge about a reality which exists independently of human perceptions which they saw as merely another form of constructed ideology dominated by bourgeois, western assumptions. Decidedly left-wing, Pozzmodernism had both a nihilistic and a revolutionary ethos which resonated with a post-war, post-empire zeitgeist in the West. As Pozzmodernism continued to develop and diversify, its initially stronger nihilistic deconstructive phase became secondary (but still fundamental) to its revolutionary “identity politics” phase.

 No.95529

in polish national tv there was screening of salo recently :D it caused nice butthurt


 No.95536

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>>95529

>salo

Because it reminds them of Ukrainians?


 No.95538

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This Jew is spamming all this anti-french shit everywhere. I bless the gilet janue movement, for they show that your murder is coming and people will be called heroes for having your head


 No.95551

>>95538

The french are literally the jews of the non-jews. foucault, sartre, baudrillard, deleuze, guatari and althusser are practically cultural rabbis.


 No.95563

https://kenanmalik.wordpress.com/2017/02/05/not-post-truth-as-too-many-truths/

>“When I suggested earlier that the idea of ‘alternative facts’ draws upon ‘a set of concepts that in recent decades have been used by radicals’, I was not suggesting that Kellyanne Conway, or Steve Bannon, still less Donald Trump, have been reading up on Foucault or Baudrillard… It is rather that sections of academia and of the left have in recent decades helped create a culture in which relativized views of facts and knowledge seem untroubling, and hence made it easier for the reactionary right not just to re-appropriate but also to promote reactionary ideas.”

https://dailycaller.com/2017/01/30/anti-trump-march-for-science-maintains-that-racism-ableism-and-native-rights-are-scientific-issues/#ixzz4bPD4TA1o

>“colonization, racism, immigration, native rights, sexism, ableism, queer-, trans-, intersex-phobia, & econ justice are scientific issues,”

>“Science has always been used to legitimize racism, sexism, classism, transphobia, ableism, and homophobia, all veiled as rational and fact, and supported by the government and state. In this world today, there is little that is true ‘fact.'”

http://hotair.com/archives/2017/03/10/is-intersectionality-a-religion/

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/10/science-must-fall-time-decolonise-science/


 No.95602

>>95538

>Yellow Vests

>Right-wing

their literally calling for the fall of the Right-wing despot of France Macron and are/were either tacitly or activly being supported by basically every Leftist and Socialist/communist/Marxist org in france + Unions


 No.95603

>>95551

>The french are literally the jews of the non-jews. foucault, sartre, baudrillard, deleuze, guatari and althusser are practically cultural rabbis.

What does this word salad even mea…. or wait yeah it means nothing

What exactly makes Sartre or Foucault or Althusser "Cultural Rabbi's"?


 No.95604

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>>95602

The yellow vests aren't coherently right or left-wing. Quite a few are pissed over higher gas taxes, which even leftists learn to hate once they realize that they have to pay, too.

>Right-wing despot of France Macron

Come now, not even /trannypol/ is this bad.


 No.95612

>>95602

>their literally calling for the fall of the Right-wing despot of France Macron

Jesus Christ, this is like TYT levels of reshaping facts.


 No.95626

>>95602

>Macron

>rightwing

The protest are over the outrageous amount of taxes the regular people have to pay, especially the new emissions tax from the global climate compact thing Trump got so much flak for dropping out of. Its becoming increasingly obvious just how out of the loop any and all socialist are. Since they are all trust fund kiddies and/or still dependant on their parents, they have no real concept of the cost of living for some people and live in a world of "muh theory" where charging people more and more taxes for some feel good nonsense like reducing personal car emissions, is a good idea.


 No.95627

>>95551

>>95538

Sounds like schitzo tier retarded ramblings tbhfam.


 No.95628

>>95612

Literally what the fuck else can you call macron?

Have you even looked at any of his policies? (Privatisations / Rehabilitation of petani / Gutting of the French welfare system / Continued colonialism in Africa etc)

And I'll once again restate

Almost every single left-wing organisation in France is supporting the protests while the Centrists and the Right (Macrons supporters) have fought against it

The protests were started by explicitly anti-worker legislation (The gas tax)


 No.95632

>>95626

Yes a tax that much like GST / Sales tax etc grotesquely affects the working class while leaving the root of the problem untouched

Not liking a tax that is literally in effect "a tax on working" isn't a libertarian positition infact it's a socialist one as Taxes on working simply further the workers exploitation


 No.95634

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>>95632

>Not liking a tax that is literally in effect "a tax on working" isn't a libertarian positition

>not liking a tax isn't libertarian

Back to playing dictionary hot potato I see.


 No.95636

>>95634

Yes.

Not liking a singular tax Dosent change that these protests are both fighting to preserve at the very least the Social-Democratic Institutions that Macron has been attempting to tear down with his NeoLiberal policy and in the more radical strands of the protests actions like the dissolution of the African Franc the EXPANSION of the Social-Security system and the ending of Macrons Imperialist wars

All things that the Right in France has no interest in supporting


 No.95643

>>95536

no

most people dont know what "salo" means

we have our own word for it


 No.95676

>>95632

>ugh actually reducing taxes is my idea!

No its not, youre fundamentally based around more and more taxes and constantly bitch the moment any right leaning person even suggest reducing taxes. The only reason you are bandwagoning on this issue now is because you know its too late and how it would look to continue supporting this retarded shit.

Youre also more than likely a brainlet who actually believes in these hollow "muh global warming" meme, when this is all about reducing dependence on oil, which has already hit peak levels in the 80s.

socialist are always just sock puppet cucks for corporations now anyway

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/11/opinion/guess-whos-for-a-carbon-tax-now.html


 No.95677

>>95676

Also, anytime you see someone bitching about global warming and blaming it all on personal vehicles, they are a fucking joke.

Ships are the main polluter, with a regular cargo ship emitting the same level of emissions as 15 MILLION cars. The top biggest cargo ships in the world produce more pollution than ALL VEHICLES IN THE WORLD.

https://inews.co.uk/news/long-reads/cargo-container-shipping-carbon-pollution/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1229857/How-16-ships-create-pollution-cars-world.html

Trump was 100% correct to rightfully see what a retarded, shallow, virtue signaling, and industry killing meme the paris climate accord was and everyone who bitched about him backing out of it (including the commies now trying to switch teams) were objectively wrong.


 No.98888

Is the yellow jacked movement still going on?


 No.99006

>>95627

i agree, french post-structuralism is schizo tier rambling.


 No.99010

>>99006

schizos are right sometimes


 No.99011


 No.99013

>>99011

was john nash wrong?


 No.99015

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yeah because game theory is gobbledigook


 No.99036

>>99015

>gobbledigook

???


 No.99094


 No.99173

>>99094

yeah but his science was right




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