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Welcome! Tired of the Nazi's from /pol/ and the Commies of /leftypol/?
/libertypol/ is a political discussion and news board from a libertarian perspective. From Big L, small l, Minarchist, Anarcho-Capitalist, Austrian, Chicago, everyone is welcome.
Current rules:
1. Follow the global rule.
2. Keep the discussions On Topic, posts that are spam, shitposts or meant to be off-topic to political discussion will be deleted.
Welcome! Tired of the Nazi's from /pol/ and the Commies of /leftypol/?
/libertypol/ is a political discussion and news board from a libertarian perspective. From Big L, small l, Minarchist, Anarcho-Capitalist, Austrian, Chicago, everyone is welcome.
Current rules:
1. Follow the global rule.
2. Keep the discussions On Topic, posts that are spam, shitposts or meant to be off-topic to political discussion will be deleted.
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I'm new to moderating boards so i would also like volunteers to help me get the place going and give tips on how to moderate.
Board Management
Thread for ideas on board management e.g banners, directions, advertisements, rules, ect.I'm new to moderating boards so i would also like volunteers to help me get the place going and give tips on how to moderate.
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This is only a draft before i take the final version to /sen/ and make it an official thing, so feel free to add idea's and addition to the party.
Voluntary Liberty Party (VLP)
A Big Tent Right-Libertarian party with an adherence to Individual Freedom, Free Market and Voluntary Association.
Platform:
- Laissez Faire Capitalism
- Separation of State and all Social/Economic institutions
- Private Property (Gun Rights, Drugs Liberalization, Private Land Ownership)
- Non-Interventionism
- Free Market alternatives to State enforced programs
- Voluntary Trade and Interaction between cultures
- Opposed to Crony Capitalism, Socialism, Communism, Fascism and Despotism
- Opposed to current and future Acts in /sen/ that limit Freedom and Voluntary Association.
We are willing to make alliances and work together with parties and independents that share our views for a more free and voluntary society without state involvement.
Current Party Representatives:
Lemongrass
If you want to join as representative just ask me, you do need a name and tripcode for /sen/ though.
Libertarian Party for /sen/ discussion
So i have been thinking about participating in >>>/sen/ by making a party to represent Libertypol.This is only a draft before i take the final version to /sen/ and make it an official thing, so feel free to add idea's and addition to the party.
Voluntary Liberty Party (VLP)
A Big Tent Right-Libertarian party with an adherence to Individual Freedom, Free Market and Voluntary Association.
Platform:
- Laissez Faire Capitalism
- Separation of State and all Social/Economic institutions
- Private Property (Gun Rights, Drugs Liberalization, Private Land Ownership)
- Non-Interventionism
- Free Market alternatives to State enforced programs
- Voluntary Trade and Interaction between cultures
- Opposed to Crony Capitalism, Socialism, Communism, Fascism and Despotism
- Opposed to current and future Acts in /sen/ that limit Freedom and Voluntary Association.
We are willing to make alliances and work together with parties and independents that share our views for a more free and voluntary society without state involvement.
Current Party Representatives:
Lemongrass
If you want to join as representative just ask me, you do need a name and tripcode for /sen/ though.
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Are all libertarians Austrian economists?
Are all libertarians Austrian economists?
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Protester catches state police on video discussing how they should charge and arrest him to "cover their asses" since they couldn't find an actual crime had occurred
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Memetic Magic by R. Kirk Packwood
/pol/ has already discovered and is using this weapon of creative expression, otherwise known as "Meme Magic".
Proof compiled here: http://8ch.net/bmw/res/77.html
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posting my opinion/redpill
capitalism is technically "money" "ism" basically capitalism is in a way a religious belief in- and false idol worship of capital and/or currency.
capitalism as a system as a whole is simply a slightly better disguised version of "wage slavery" that has been designed from the ground up to be a system that is easily manipulated by those few people at the top who hold more money than everyone else in the world combined.
>The cure to BAD regulation is GOOD regulation, not NO regulation; that just leads to cartels and you're right back where you are now. Regulatory capture fools so many young libertarians into thinking that regulation itself is inherently bad when what you need is regulation to keep the free market free and break up cartels.
Of course the solution is without a doubt NOT anarchy, however:
>The solution to everyone finding loopholes in everything and breaking the rules by getting around all the rules
>is to make more rules
capitalism as a system itself is flawed. currency, money is flawed.
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Breastfeeding is apparently illegal in Maryland
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What is your vision for America?
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Libertarian News
If there were a large, libertarian news network, would you watch, read, or contribute? Or is it just not worth the time to watch the news?
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What does /libertypol/ think of Geoism and its anarchist variant, Geoliberarianism?
What does /libertypol/ think of Geoism and its anarchist variant, Geoliberarianism?
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The problem with libertarians is
that it's as incoherent as feminism insofar as what it means to everyone who calls themself a liberal (And most of them are either de-facto liberals, or anarchists/people who can't ever recognize a legitimate government function/action),
The problem with libertarians is
that it's as incoherent as feminism insofar as what it means to everyone who calls themself a liberal (And most of them are either de-facto liberals, or anarchists/people who can't ever recognize a legitimate government function/action),
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>Libertarians like to spout a bunch of pro capitalist crap at the expense of those less well off in the drive towards a free market, which has never and will never exist in a structured society w a large populous.
>American libertarianism is a joke and a lie manufactured and funded by the koch brothers
What do you think of that? I'm messaging an old friend who apparently went full commie/SJW. Have you lost any friends/family to the other side? Cross posting from /pol/ since I had no idea this board existed.
>Libertarians like to spout a bunch of pro capitalist crap at the expense of those less well off in the drive towards a free market, which has never and will never exist in a structured society w a large populous.
>American libertarianism is a joke and a lie manufactured and funded by the koch brothers
What do you think of that? I'm messaging an old friend who apparently went full commie/SJW. Have you lost any friends/family to the other side? Cross posting from /pol/ since I had no idea this board existed.
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Quick question: How many Federal government agencies exist? Don't know? Don't worry; the government doesn't know, either
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/09/the-most-gruesome-moments-in-the-cia-torture-report.html
Over 54 other countries where in on this aswell:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/05/cia-rendition-countries-covert-support
Some of the torture methods include:
- Dungeon-like salt pits
- Standing on broken legs
- Forced rectal feeding
- Threatening their families including harming children and sexually abusing their mothers
CIA Torture Report discussion
Torture Report released by the The Senate intelligence committee more horrifying and cruel than i could've imagined.http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/09/the-most-gruesome-moments-in-the-cia-torture-report.html
Over 54 other countries where in on this aswell:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/05/cia-rendition-countries-covert-support
Some of the torture methods include:
- Dungeon-like salt pits
- Standing on broken legs
- Forced rectal feeding
- Threatening their families including harming children and sexually abusing their mothers
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what is the difference between anarchism and libertarianism ?
what is the difference between anarchism and libertarianism ?
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ITT: Libertarian channels on youtube worth watching.
Julie Burowski:
https://www.youtube.com/user/TokenLibertarianGirl
That Guy T:
https://www.youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT
Stefan Molyneux:
https://www.youtube.com/user/stefbot
(I know he is quite controversial but his video's defending Libertarianism/Anarcho-Capitalism are good)
ITT: Libertarian channels on youtube worth watching.
Julie Burowski:
https://www.youtube.com/user/TokenLibertarianGirl
That Guy T:
https://www.youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT
Stefan Molyneux:
https://www.youtube.com/user/stefbot
(I know he is quite controversial but his video's defending Libertarianism/Anarcho-Capitalism are good)
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What does /libertypol/ think of it?
>Offical currency is Bitcoin
>Tax is voluntary
>No military
Links:
www.liberland.org
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-32332473
time.com/3825100/man-claims-new-country-europe/
Liberland!
So on April the 13th a new nation was founded in Europe called Liberland on the Terra Nullus land between Serbia and Croatia.What does /libertypol/ think of it?
>Offical currency is Bitcoin
>Tax is voluntary
>No military
Links:
www.liberland.org
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-32332473
time.com/3825100/man-claims-new-country-europe/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGDEhhYhBGk
WE must accept diversity
ONLY WHITE COUNTRIES
we must take everyone from the world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGDEhhYhBGk
WE must accept diversity
ONLY WHITE COUNTRIES
we must take everyone from the world
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How well are libertarians doing in your country?
Libertarianism in your country
In my country, a libertarian party recently came first in national elections.How well are libertarians doing in your country?
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High schoolers vote to have communism-themed prom, get high Marx for originality
http://krqe.com/2015/03/05/seniors-vote-for-communism-themed-prom/
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High schoolers vote to have communism-themed prom, get high Marx for originality
http://krqe.com/2015/03/05/seniors-vote-for-communism-themed-prom/
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BO of >>>/anarchism/ and >>>/ancap/ here. I would like to extend a welcoming hand to any and all anons who may enjoy discussing anarchist theory and praxis. To speak plainly, I would like to see evolving debate between anarchists and all varying political beliefs. Every belief is welcome, all views are acknowledged. It is my intention to gather together as many freedom-loving anons together, and witness the growth of a freedom-minded cross-board 8ch nexus.
If this sounds interesting to /libertypol/, please let me know and I shall add /libertypol/ to the linked board list.
Cross-board freedom-minded nexus
Hey, /libertypol/, I hope you don't mind me shilling for more traffic.BO of >>>/anarchism/ and >>>/ancap/ here. I would like to extend a welcoming hand to any and all anons who may enjoy discussing anarchist theory and praxis. To speak plainly, I would like to see evolving debate between anarchists and all varying political beliefs. Every belief is welcome, all views are acknowledged. It is my intention to gather together as many freedom-loving anons together, and witness the growth of a freedom-minded cross-board 8ch nexus.
If this sounds interesting to /libertypol/, please let me know and I shall add /libertypol/ to the linked board list.
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Why isn't Ron Swanson one of this board's mascots?
Why isn't Ron Swanson one of this board's mascots?
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Lord, grant me the strength to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to Go Be Homeless Somewhere Else
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/03/18/homeless-saint-marys-cathedral-archdiocese-san-francisco-intentionally-drenched-water-sleeping/
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Lord, grant me the strength to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to Go Be Homeless Somewhere Else
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/03/18/homeless-saint-marys-cathedral-archdiocese-san-francisco-intentionally-drenched-water-sleeping/
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You know that your drug problem is out of hand when you go around stealing the biohazard containers of used vials and syringes from a hospital and inject yourself with the contents
http://www.newson6.com/story/28547153/man-arrested-for-medical-waste-theft-person-of-interest-in-arkansas-river-dumping
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You know that your drug problem is out of hand when you go around stealing the biohazard containers of used vials and syringes from a hospital and inject yourself with the contents
http://www.newson6.com/story/28547153/man-arrested-for-medical-waste-theft-person-of-interest-in-arkansas-river-dumping
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It has been 70 years since the death of Anne Frank, and here is her life….in pictures
http://deslide.clusterfake.net/?o=html_table&u=http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/photos/anne-franks-life-in-photos-70-years-since-her-death/ss-BBibRI9
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It has been 70 years since the death of Anne Frank, and here is her life….in pictures
http://deslide.clusterfake.net/?o=html_table&u=http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/photos/anne-franks-life-in-photos-70-years-since-her-death/ss-BBibRI9
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What drove you to cowardice and not even choosing to take a blue or red pill?
For me is was my crippling fear of being wrong.
What drove you to cowardice and not even choosing to take a blue or red pill?
For me is was my crippling fear of being wrong.
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How has libertarianism changed you on a personal level?
How has libertarianism changed you on a personal level?
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Fellow Libertarians of /libertypol/, what is your opinion on the Free State Project?
https://freestateproject.org/
For those of you not in the know, it is a movement to give libertarians the ability to actually have a presence in a state, by asking Libertarians to pledge a move to New Hampshire, which is arguably the most based state in the union right now when it comes to politics, personal freedom, and economic freedom. For example, they just outlawed Police from using Military equipment. They are also one of the few states left where putting on a seatbelt or acquiring auto insurance isn't against the law, but that doesn't stop most of them from doing that anyway.
And the ones in state (including the early movers) are even making a difference there, doing their own things, like cryptocurrency activism + setting up actual bitcoin ATMs, getting their own businesses to accept gold and silver, and getting libertarians state government.
Fellow Libertarians of /libertypol/, what is your opinion on the Free State Project?
https://freestateproject.org/
For those of you not in the know, it is a movement to give libertarians the ability to actually have a presence in a state, by asking Libertarians to pledge a move to New Hampshire, which is arguably the most based state in the union right now when it comes to politics, personal freedom, and economic freedom. For example, they just outlawed Police from using Military equipment. They are also one of the few states left where putting on a seatbelt or acquiring auto insurance isn't against the law, but that doesn't stop most of them from doing that anyway.
And the ones in state (including the early movers) are even making a difference there, doing their own things, like cryptocurrency activism + setting up actual bitcoin ATMs, getting their own businesses to accept gold and silver, and getting libertarians state government.
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If the government is small and doesn't collect shit tons of money how will it pay for huge services such as roads?
If the government is small and doesn't collect shit tons of money how will it pay for huge services such as roads?
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which Pokémon would you fuck?
yiff
hey /libertypol/which Pokémon would you fuck?
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it's a tough pill to swallow! The brown pill was founded in 1999 by Sir Reginald Brownpill, who presents and narrates the attached video.
Forget red and blue pills, brown pills are the way of the future.
Video related. Please leave your questions, comments, and concerns below about this radical new paradigm of thinking!
Swallow the brown pill today! Red pills are for fedora fucking wearing faggots, blue pills are for the ignorant masses. Ignore the other le epin /pol/ maymays, this one is the readl deal.
I am a dangerous klansman.
niggers and jews.
Have you taken the brown pill yet, mateys?it's a tough pill to swallow! The brown pill was founded in 1999 by Sir Reginald Brownpill, who presents and narrates the attached video.
Forget red and blue pills, brown pills are the way of the future.
Video related. Please leave your questions, comments, and concerns below about this radical new paradigm of thinking!
Swallow the brown pill today! Red pills are for fedora fucking wearing faggots, blue pills are for the ignorant masses. Ignore the other le epin /pol/ maymays, this one is the readl deal.
I am a dangerous klansman.
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Speaking as a libertarian:
This is fucking stupid.
If you want actual political discussion that isn't dominated by Nazi fetishists, why not create a neutral board for political discussion? Splitting up into /pol/, /leftypol/, and /libertypol/ (and soon /anarchopol/ and /greenpol/) only splinters the discussion, and further solidifies Nazi dominance on /pol/.
Speaking as a libertarian:
This is fucking stupid.
If you want actual political discussion that isn't dominated by Nazi fetishists, why not create a neutral board for political discussion? Splitting up into /pol/, /leftypol/, and /libertypol/ (and soon /anarchopol/ and /greenpol/) only splinters the discussion, and further solidifies Nazi dominance on /pol/.
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Do you feel our party will ever make it to the same playing fields as Republicans and Democrats?
More and more as the party rises lies in the media are trying to stamp out the fires.
Can a 3 party system even be stable enough to exist? or would we overtake another party (More then likely republicans if this would be the case)
Do you feel our party will ever make it to the same playing fields as Republicans and Democrats?
More and more as the party rises lies in the media are trying to stamp out the fires.
Can a 3 party system even be stable enough to exist? or would we overtake another party (More then likely republicans if this would be the case)
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Y/N and why or why not?
Debate thread
should the government force people to vaccinate their children?Y/N and why or why not?
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Wyoming state senator ejected from legislative committee meeting after trying to amend gay-rights bill with effective date of "when hell freezes over"
http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/wyoming/lawmaker-kicked-out-of-meeting-for-wanting-to-make-lgbt/article_c7d87332-739e-54e7-a47f-ba8713f6f582.html
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Wyoming state senator ejected from legislative committee meeting after trying to amend gay-rights bill with effective date of "when hell freezes over"
http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/wyoming/lawmaker-kicked-out-of-meeting-for-wanting-to-make-lgbt/article_c7d87332-739e-54e7-a47f-ba8713f6f582.html
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Woman's house straddles NY/CT border. Bank fails to pay taxes on NY half of it out of escrow account. Town forecloses. Neighbor snaps it up for $275. Doesn't tell woman. When she does find out, neighbor offers it back for $150k
http://www.13wmaz.com/story/news/2015/02/15/woman-loses-half-of-her-house-to-neighbor/23454577/
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Woman's house straddles NY/CT border. Bank fails to pay taxes on NY half of it out of escrow account. Town forecloses. Neighbor snaps it up for $275. Doesn't tell woman. When she does find out, neighbor offers it back for $150k
http://www.13wmaz.com/story/news/2015/02/15/woman-loses-half-of-her-house-to-neighbor/23454577/
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challenge: a definition for liberal other than not conservative,and a definition of conservative other than not liberal
question for /libertypol/
what does the words Liberal and Conservative mean?challenge: a definition for liberal other than not conservative,and a definition of conservative other than not liberal
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Teacher fined after "accidentally" posting pro-Hitler image on Facebook, just might receive a strongly-worded letter in his file and an admiring profile in the Guardian
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11419645/Teacher-fined-for-posting-pro-Hitler-image-on-Facebook-aimed-at-Jews.html?x
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Teacher fined after "accidentally" posting pro-Hitler image on Facebook, just might receive a strongly-worded letter in his file and an admiring profile in the Guardian
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11419645/Teacher-fined-for-posting-pro-Hitler-image-on-Facebook-aimed-at-Jews.html?x
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Can 3rd-positionists give me a rundown on their sub-ideologies?
Traditional Left-Right Paradigm
I created a political paradgim using the traditional left-right paradgim. I want other people's opinions on it. Tell me if I left anyone out, or got something wrong.Can 3rd-positionists give me a rundown on their sub-ideologies?
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DHS officials staging pre-dawn raids to seize illegally imported vehicles from law-abiding citizens. I feel safer already
http://jalopnik.com/why-are-the-feds-obsessed-with-seizing-these-peoples-ol-1672381729
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DHS officials staging pre-dawn raids to seize illegally imported vehicles from law-abiding citizens. I feel safer already
http://jalopnik.com/why-are-the-feds-obsessed-with-seizing-these-peoples-ol-1672381729
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Hot chocolate is more American than apple pie because George Washington drank it for breakfast. However, disgusting as it seems, he added chili powder to the confection
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2015/02/11/385497566/why-hot-chocolate-might-be-more-american-than-apple-pie
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Hot chocolate is more American than apple pie because George Washington drank it for breakfast. However, disgusting as it seems, he added chili powder to the confection
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2015/02/11/385497566/why-hot-chocolate-might-be-more-american-than-apple-pie
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Militant atheist murders three Muslim students. Fox News shrugs shoulders and hands this one off to MSNBC
http://newsfeed.gawker.com/three-muslim-college-students-slain-in-shooting-near-un-1685160166
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Militant atheist murders three Muslim students. Fox News shrugs shoulders and hands this one off to MSNBC
http://newsfeed.gawker.com/three-muslim-college-students-slain-in-shooting-near-un-1685160166
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Neo-Nazis protest at radio station, quickly destroy their credibility by using Comic Sans
http://www.thelocal.se/20150127/swedens-national-radio-blocked-by-nazis
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Neo-Nazis protest at radio station, quickly destroy their credibility by using Comic Sans
http://www.thelocal.se/20150127/swedens-national-radio-blocked-by-nazis
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French judge tells couple they can't name their child Nutella because "that is the trade name of a spread"
http://time.com/3681714/nutellla-child/
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French judge tells couple they can't name their child Nutella because "that is the trade name of a spread"
http://time.com/3681714/nutellla-child/
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/b/ro here, only discovering your board today.
I discovered libertarianism by myself without naming it, when I read about it somewhere else and finally thought that someone else was thinking like me.
I fear only two things about libertarianism:
-human beings in themselves
-the lack of understanding of other people about our belief.
Now to my point: do you know any IRL libertarians? I live in Europe and I don't, I guess no one can free his mind off the traditional socialist/less-socialist scheme of thinking.
Feasablenessing
Never mind the subject title./b/ro here, only discovering your board today.
I discovered libertarianism by myself without naming it, when I read about it somewhere else and finally thought that someone else was thinking like me.
I fear only two things about libertarianism:
-human beings in themselves
-the lack of understanding of other people about our belief.
Now to my point: do you know any IRL libertarians? I live in Europe and I don't, I guess no one can free his mind off the traditional socialist/less-socialist scheme of thinking.
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What often gets forgotten, though, is how dissidents are treated in this book. Rather than being tortured and reeducated, they are deported to an island of their choice where they can live with other freethinkers and live independently. However, there is no possibility for these "sovereign penal colonies" to ever threaten the system due to how remote they are and how (presumably) little infrastructure they have. It is a terrible win-win: the dissidents get their freedom and the system gets a way to rid its opponents in a way that they'll never resist against. The system doesn't destroy its opposition so much as make it irrelevant.
I believe that in this regard, contemporary society has gone totalitarian in a way far beyond what Huxley could have predicted when thinking of his islands. Though governments and businesses are planning and to some degree have engaged in censorship and surveillance online, a free Internet manages to make their opponents irrelevant anyway. Think of sites like Reddit, or 4chan, or even this site and the endless forums out there, not to mention the ability to create your own website or freely hosted blog. A dizzying myriad of radical positions exist out there, some even talking over and over again about how disruptive and even violent action needs to be taken against the system.
However, like the dissidents in Brave New World, this ability to express yourself among like-minded others hardly ever translates into a sustained threat against the system. People rehash the same truths and principles repeatedly in a ceaseless series of threads or blog posts, develop a subculture (memes and /meta/ discussions) that satisfies their need for "being involved", and even break into perpetual infighting over finer points of their ideologies and tactics. This works out to the system's benefit even better than Huxley's islands, as dissidents continue to serve the system as dutiful laborers and consumers who exhaust their rebelliousness by devoting precious leisure time to said online communities.
You may protest with the examples of the Arab Spring or the shenanigans of hacktivists. Surely these are examples of the Internet allowing radicals to organize and wage real life campaigns. But in the case of the former, can we really compare the rebellion of a materially undermuh privileged populace living under a corrupt tinpot autocracy with the sophisticated liberal democracies we live under? That system clearly comes nowhere close to ours in achieving Huxley's "totalitarianism by pleasure and apathy". In the case of the latter, how often does hacktivism or IRL activities organized online translate into sustained campaigns that make reliable tactical gains, and can strategically exploit victories for further success? Typically, they just manifest as hit and runs which the system effortlessly and instantaneously cleans up after to restore normal daily life.
Free Speech Online: Enemy of Liberty?
Let's recall Aldous Huxley's dystopia Brave New World. Many people think of it as the "soft 1984"; replacing Orwell's rule by violence and control over the truth with Huxley's rule by pleasure and apathy towards the truth.What often gets forgotten, though, is how dissidents are treated in this book. Rather than being tortured and reeducated, they are deported to an island of their choice where they can live with other freethinkers and live independently. However, there is no possibility for these "sovereign penal colonies" to ever threaten the system due to how remote they are and how (presumably) little infrastructure they have. It is a terrible win-win: the dissidents get their freedom and the system gets a way to rid its opponents in a way that they'll never resist against. The system doesn't destroy its opposition so much as make it irrelevant.
I believe that in this regard, contemporary society has gone totalitarian in a way far beyond what Huxley could have predicted when thinking of his islands. Though governments and businesses are planning and to some degree have engaged in censorship and surveillance online, a free Internet manages to make their opponents irrelevant anyway. Think of sites like Reddit, or 4chan, or even this site and the endless forums out there, not to mention the ability to create your own website or freely hosted blog. A dizzying myriad of radical positions exist out there, some even talking over and over again about how disruptive and even violent action needs to be taken against the system.
However, like the dissidents in Brave New World, this ability to express yourself among like-minded others hardly ever translates into a sustained threat against the system. People rehash the same truths and principles repeatedly in a ceaseless series of threads or blog posts, develop a subculture (memes and /meta/ discussions) that satisfies their need for "being involved", and even break into perpetual infighting over finer points of their ideologies and tactics. This works out to the system's benefit even better than Huxley's islands, as dissidents continue to serve the system as dutiful laborers and consumers who exhaust their rebelliousness by devoting precious leisure time to said online communities.
You may protest with the examples of the Arab Spring or the shenanigans of hacktivists. Surely these are examples of the Internet allowing radicals to organize and wage real life campaigns. But in the case of the former, can we really compare the rebellion of a materially undermuh privileged populace living under a corrupt tinpot autocracy with the sophisticated liberal democracies we live under? That system clearly comes nowhere close to ours in achieving Huxley's "totalitarianism by pleasure and apathy". In the case of the latter, how often does hacktivism or IRL activities organized online translate into sustained campaigns that make reliable tactical gains, and can strategically exploit victories for further success? Typically, they just manifest as hit and runs which the system effortlessly and instantaneously cleans up after to restore normal daily life.
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Libertarian coming from tumblr
So I'm actually a libertarian coming from tumblr. First time on 8chan (I've heard good things). I expected libertypol to be as shitty as pol but I walk in and I'm like. No roads here? I like it. R: 1 / I: 1 / P: 4
Dead body of aspiring actress found in city water tank after residents complain of "strange taste." Eaux de humanity
www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/dead-body-aspiring-actress-found-4971412
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Dead body of aspiring actress found in city water tank after residents complain of "strange taste." Eaux de humanity
www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/dead-body-aspiring-actress-found-4971412
pic unrelated
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Educate someone whos new
For a while I've noticed the words "Liberal" and "Libertarian" and due to a lack of context and inability to see the differences, I do not know if they're interchagable terms for the same thing. Please educate me.
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I don't much of an idea on politics.
I support free speech and liberty which i hear are associated with libertarianism.
What's a Libertarian?
Hey, im from GG.I don't much of an idea on politics.
I support free speech and liberty which i hear are associated with libertarianism.
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Can I be a libertarian if I think that one of the few functions of government should be to break up monopolies?
Can I be a libertarian if I think that one of the few functions of government should be to break up monopolies?
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Is the discussion of precious metals, including the buying and selling thereof, permitted?
Is the discussion of precious metals, including the buying and selling thereof, permitted?
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Is state-ownership economically justifiable in any case?
Would, for example, a country with cheap oil be better off if it was state-owned? Would they get a better reinvestment rate?
Be nice.
Is state-ownership economically justifiable in any case?
Would, for example, a country with cheap oil be better off if it was state-owned? Would they get a better reinvestment rate?
Be nice.
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Would you mind telling me which specific philosophy you follow in regards to Anarchism?
Also, perhaps you can teach me something. You seem like the well read sort, so could you lay out what it would look like to have a society wherein private property were abolished?
I understand that it comes with new concepts of property to replace the capitalist notions, but I'm not sure if this would be identical to the ideas of property found in communism, given the common root of Marx, or if it moves in a different direction.
Sidenote, I find it amusing that Marx was a politician.
@/libertypol/res/4.html#56
Decided to start a new thread so as to not derail the other.Would you mind telling me which specific philosophy you follow in regards to Anarchism?
Also, perhaps you can teach me something. You seem like the well read sort, so could you lay out what it would look like to have a society wherein private property were abolished?
I understand that it comes with new concepts of property to replace the capitalist notions, but I'm not sure if this would be identical to the ideas of property found in communism, given the common root of Marx, or if it moves in a different direction.
Sidenote, I find it amusing that Marx was a politician.
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Can we get a /libertypol/ literature thread going?
Can we get a /libertypol/ literature thread going?
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Ofcourse the mainstream media so far has been awfully silent and the bill was passed under the radar.
This needs more awareness because this is a serious threat to liberty.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/protect-our-privacy-and-please-veto-hr-4681-aka-intelligence-authorization-act-fiscal-year-2015/lln5hN5c
Intelligence Authorization Act 2015
The Government is once again trying to invade our privacy and expand their data-gathering control allowing them to spy on us without warrant.Ofcourse the mainstream media so far has been awfully silent and the bill was passed under the radar.
This needs more awareness because this is a serious threat to liberty.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/protect-our-privacy-and-please-veto-hr-4681-aka-intelligence-authorization-act-fiscal-year-2015/lln5hN5c